Let's focus on what unites us.Being glad Mark May is off TV?
Let's focus on what unites us.(https://i.imgur.com/g4Mx5Xv.png)
Y'all ever been to a BBQ buffet? I think that could unite everyone who is comfortable enough to eat at one.SFBadge thinks people are particular about chili, and you want to start a BBQ style war? :57:
Being glad Mark May is off TV?
right now the BIG is pretty united against UNL... does that count?Wisconsin's running game would not like Nebraska to leave the Big Ten.
Sorry, can't hear you over the crunch of the iceberg lettuce in my healthy salad ;-)
Speaking of BBQ, how about we agree that West Coast, better-than-you feature Food doesn't really fill you up? It's all for fashion and show: green juices, hummus, sushi, mini-tacos, pastas, ramen, mexican-asian fusions, paninis...
An analysis of all these.
Speaking of BBQ, how about we agree that West Coast, better-than-you feature Food doesn't really fill you up? It's all for fashion and show: green juices, hummus, sushi, mini-tacos, pastas, ramen, mexican-asian fusions, paninis...
right now the BIG is pretty united against UNL... does that count?Are you referring to the Big Ten brass?
So, what's everyone up to this year?
It's a big one for us as Mrs. 847 is retiring in March.
We just got back from Cabo, and we'll head to Florida next month, for a week.
Then, in March (after the retirement), we head to Lima, Peru to hop on a cruise ship. It will make its way to Miami, via the Panama Canal (that the USA built and Carter gave away). This has been on my list for a long time, so I'm really excited.
We'll probably end up buying a home in Florida this year.
Natl Talkng heads don't understand local politics or advocacy i see.That's the only reason any coaches spoke up. They influence none of the actual decision makers. But boosters, players and recruits like it.I don't think they are playing, and you're a dummy if you don't understand the role of an AD or HC in that state. If your constituents are in the play camp,, theres no risk to you in being vocal in favor of this.. youre not able to make the decision for the school. Ryan Day said basically the same thing. I'm sure the soundbite guys will be calling for tOSU ouster too.;)
Sorry, can't hear you over the crunch of the iceberg lettuce in my healthy salad ;-)more like the bottom of the keg spitting out it's sudsy swill
Wisconsin's running game would not like Nebraska to leave the Big Ten.HA!!....
more like the bottom of the keg spitting out it's sudsy swillSwill? You cut me, sir!
No season? Speak for yourselves.Yeah, you've still got one...
Swill? You cut me, sir!If I can find Mr Scott to beam me over I'll be there,and I use to hit the rack at dawn.So is this like Keggs & Eggs to keep the season going?
I demand satisfaction!
I shall meet you for pint glasses at dawn! Please make sure you select a sturdy second; capable of dragging your drunk passed out ass off my kitchen floor!
I have no faith they will play one game but as of right now...You XII'ers call that football?
...nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. My team is playing football and yours isn’t!
You XII'ers call that football?Their defenses are all about social distancing! :57:
No hairy naked men in my house. My wife wants a dog. It's the only thing we ever "argue" about.I know we're all friends, but you don't need to share your body hair situation. I'm trying to argue about food here.
Natl Talkng heads don't understand local politics or advocacy i see.It sort of speaks to silliness in our process.I don't think they are playing, and you're a dummy if you don't understand the role of an AD or HC in that state. If your constituents are in the play camp,, theres no risk to you in being vocal in favor of this.. youre not able to make the decision for the school. Ryan Day said basically the same thing. I'm sure the soundbite guys will be calling for tOSU ouster too.;)
Really?Much ado about nothing. There's no actual sports to talk about, and there might not be for another year, so this is what we get.
https://saturdaytradition.com/nebraska-football/report-big-12-officials-says-nebraska-would-be-welcomed-back-to-conference-with-open-arms/ (https://saturdaytradition.com/nebraska-football/report-big-12-officials-says-nebraska-would-be-welcomed-back-to-conference-with-open-arms/)
I'd like to know the "source" on this one.
Really?I mean, the source just says the Big 12 would take back Neb. And why wouldn't it. It's a 10-team conference with a round robin and title game that has WVU in its weird footprint. They'll take any healthy P5 that wanted to join, and Nebraska at 21st in revenue the last go-round would qualify.
https://saturdaytradition.com/nebraska-football/report-big-12-officials-says-nebraska-would-be-welcomed-back-to-conference-with-open-arms/ (https://saturdaytradition.com/nebraska-football/report-big-12-officials-says-nebraska-would-be-welcomed-back-to-conference-with-open-arms/)
I'd like to know the "source" on this one.
Much ado about nothing. There's no actual sports to talk about, and there might not be for another year, so this is what we get.Id welcome them back
I have no faith they will play one game but as of right now...Did Rich Rod return?
...nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. My team is playing football and yours isn’t!
Their defenses are all about social distancing! :57:That’s messed up, man.
Growing up with retrievers, I was a big dog guy. In my now more advanced state (I'm still young enough that I don't think I'm "middle-aged," though I do find myself defining why I'm not...), I've become much more partial to the littler ones. A good friend has a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel that is an awesome little thing. Loves, loves, loves its people, and is pretty low maintenance. It's that maintenance part that gets my attention now. My teenagers are high maintenance. My work is high maintenance. I don't need a high maintenance dog, too.Had a golden retriever for 15 years
Of course, we don't have a dog at all; we have a cat. She's awesome, too--and low maintenance. But a cat doesn't love you like a dog does.
Did Rich Rod return?That is uncalled for. I thought we were trying to be civil in this thread.
We have two Golden Doodles that have to be the most energetically happy dogs I've ever seen.Why does everyone have those dogs?
Really want to rile someone up? Insult their dog.“If you get to thinking you're a person of influence, try ordering somebody else's dog around.” – Will Rogers
Why does everyone have those dogs?My wife was in charge of that operation. They got chosen because they have some hypoallergenic qualities (my oldest daughter is allergic) plus they are pretty friendly with kids.
I'm not sure why anyone has any dog.dogs may not be for everyone but I sure miss owning one
Shoulder pain has abated. Left hand typing only. Hot today. Film at 11.so how did you injure your shoulder?
I'm not sure why anyone has any dog.Maybe if you had a dog, you wouldn't be so grumpy, old man.
We used to keep our golden retriever in the back yard except in bad weatherReason # 1,246,873 to not have a hairy naked man.
anyway I grew tomatoes and could not figure out why more werent ripening
One day I looked out the back window and found the answer.
It seems or dog was very gently plucking the ripe ones and eating them
She would leave the tomatoes alone until they were ripe
amazing
We used to keep our golden retriever in the back yard except in bad weatherWe're in year 2 of attempted tomato growing. Last year I we went through two plants (we killed one), some were eaten by pests, and the yield in general was low. So counting everything we paid probably upwards of $50 for about 5 tomatoes.
anyway I grew tomatoes and could not figure out why more werent ripening
One day I looked out the back window and found the answer.
It seems or dog was very gently plucking the ripe ones and eating them
She would leave the tomatoes alone until they were ripe
amazing
Denver and Austin have crap soilI see what you did there
check out Sewer City, IA
We're in year 2 of attempted tomato growing. Last year I we went through two plants (we killed one), some were eaten by pests, and the yield in general was low. So counting everything we paid probably upwards of $50 for about 5 tomatoes.around here the white tail don't leave much so you have to spray.I leave this concoction in the hot sun.Also a neighbor has always planted his tomatos next to his brick house - they love the heat and grow like crazy
Having not learned our lesson, we tried again this year. Something is eating tomatoes in the middle of the night.
daughter has a dogAppears it's bringing you a gift,hope you cooked it right
daughter lives with me, so .........
the dog is my buddy, I'm a dog person.
When the daughter moves out the dog goes with her
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around here the white tail don't leave much so you have to spray.I leave this concoction in the hot sun.Also a neighbor has always planted his tomatos next to his brick house - they love the heat and grow like crazyWe don't have too many deer, and we now have a 6' fence around the backyard. While I suppose a deer can sometimes jump that high, I doubt it was a deer.
-doodle's are great dogs; that's why people get them. I'd like to turn my nose up at them, but they're really, really good dogs.Doodles often have the advantage of not shedding, which is nice.
Anyhoo--any of you started a COVID-19 gaming addiction?The bulk of my "gaming" is Words With Friends. The only gaming system we have is that NES Classic Mini, and we haven't played that in probably about a year. I realized years ago that I don't have the dedication to be as good at gaming as people who were REALLY into gaming, so I haven't bothered trying.
-doodle's are great dogs; that's why people get them. I'd like to turn my nose up at them, but they're really, really good dogs.I wouldn't call myself a gamer because frankly I'm bad at video games. I do like buying games, maybe because I remember wanting them badly as a kid and having no money.
Anyhoo--any of you started a COVID-19 gaming addiction? Had to buy a second Xbox so the boy and I could play World of Tanks together. Well designed to hang little carrots out just close enough that they are hard to resist.
Appears it's bringing you a gift,hope you cooked it rightvicious killer
I grew up with German Shepherds. They are some of the most fearless and protective breads of dog. We have one now that gets up and checks the house 2 or 3 times a night. I never wanted any other bread than a German Shepherd.I could’ve almost posted the exact same post. I absolutely love German Shepherd dogs but I have a rescue dog that doesn’t look that different than yours and is the sweetest dog I have ever met.
However, 3 years ago my wife saw a dog at an animal shelter in Fremont, Oh and fell in love with it. That evening, we went to the shelter to check him out. He is a Pitt-Terrier, brown with brindle coloring. Very handsome dog.
We brought him home and he quickly became my dog. I have worked at home for the past 7 or 8 years so I am around him more than anyone. He has a very mild temper and loves people. My wife, who was always a cat person (can't stand cats, not good for anything but target practice) but she has fallen in love with our dog. We couldn't imagine not having him around.
Also, he is the biggest baby you would ever come across. During the day, he is either laying at my feet or stretched out on my bed.
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Karma is a bitchexcuse me, but isn't this thread for things that bring us together?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/seattle-mayor-appeals-recall-decision (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/seattle-mayor-appeals-recall-decision)
excuse me, but isn't this thread for things that bring us together?well I used the name of a female dog
My ex-sister in law had poodles - they were high strung little snots - kind of like herPoodles can be a problem BECAUSE they're intelligent. If they don't receive adequate stimulation, they can be very ill-behaved because they're not getting what they need.
Another reason to celebrate divorce!Hey, you and your wife's bedroom practices are your own business...
Maybe I need to play more role playing games--they are certainly really popular.
Looks like the house will be ready for us on 10/1 or so. There is another fly in my ointment though. I think the boat might be sold, so I will truly be homeless very soon if this is the case.I'd say you could come visit here, but there's a hairy naked man in the house.
I'd say you could come visit here, but there's a hairy naked man in the house.😂😂😂
And a dog too.
Looks like the house will be ready for us on 10/1 or so. There is another fly in my ointment though. I think the boat might be sold, so I will truly be homeless very soon if this is the case.utee has room
When I'm done for the night, planning or printing/cutting, I've started playing RDR2 again. Killing everyone I come across. Last night, my white arabian horse died, so that's lame.
Anyhoo--any of you started a COVID-19 gaming addiction? Had to buy a second Xbox so the boy and I could play World of Tanks together. Well designed to hang little carrots out just close enough that they are hard to resist.
utee has roomI do indeed, this house is way too big.
it wasn't a real thing back when I was a kidMy grandma was like that and damn near put me in the ER. I have a tree nut allergy. It has never manifested in a life threatening way but my lips, and tongue swell and my throat itches. It made me vomit once. The more I eat the worse it is and the longer it lasts. It’s very uncomfortable.
my mother wouldn't have played that game
So after eating apples his whole life my 8 yo has been complaining recently that when he eats apples his throat itches. I honestly didn’t give it much thought at first.Interesting. This happens to me too - especially with stone fruits.
Then, a couple nights ago he asked me to peel the apple because he thought that was what was making it itch. I rolled my eyes and peeled the apple thinking it was just something he was imagining. He ate it, felt fine, and confidently said he was right and wanted peeled apples from now on.
Out of curiosity I googled it and it’s a real damn thing. It’s called Oral Allergy Syndrome (OAS). It can pertain to other fruits and vegetables but cooking or peeling them doesn’t cause the same reaction.
I don’t if I’m more surprised that it’s real or that he figured that out on his own.
So... I'm going through the stages of grief and I've kinda got them jumbled up. But I've been in denial since the announcement came out, and now I'm just depressed. No Buckeye football this year sucks.Or you could look at CDC data: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/pdfs/mm6924e2-H.pdf (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/pdfs/mm6924e2-H.pdf)
Not to get political but a quote from Trump. "It's a tragic Mistake to cancel Football. Of the target age group 20-29 year old, only 5 out of 100,000 need hospitalization." I found myself agreeing with this person I don't like.
Or you could look at CDC data: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/pdfs/mm6924e2-H.pdf (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/pdfs/mm6924e2-H.pdf)Interesting data. So by those numbers, if you figure 14 teams times an 85 man roster, we can expect roughly 120 of these players to die if they play??
3.7% in that age group who have a confirmed case of COVID need hospitalization. That's 3700 out of 100,000.
0.9% in that age group who have a confirmed case of COVID need ICU admission. That's 900 out of 100,000.
0.1% in that age group who have a confirmed case of COVID die. That's 100 out of 100,000.
Even if you assume a 10x difference between actual infections and confirmed infections (which wouldn't be the case in a football team population where they're being tested multiple times a week as a precaution), you can't get to 5 out of 100K. At best you could get to 10 out of 100K dying.
That guy is probably referring to maybe 5 out of 100,000 in that entire population have needed hospitalization so far regardless of whether they have COVID or not, or potentially [it's happened before] just pulling a statistic out of thin air.
hopefully you are social distancing from the wife ;)Well that doesn't sound like any fun. :)
Interesting data. So by those numbers, if you figure 14 teams times an 85 man roster, we can expect roughly 120 of these players to die if they play??14x85 is 1190. Multiplied by a 0.1% death rate in 20-29 age group that's 1.19 deaths, or 1 out of the entire population, not 120. Not sure where you got 120?
does anybody here believe that? Do you believe that? My guess is pretty much nobody does.
but why is that?
when you look at those CDC stats does it take into account how many of the people had pre-existing conditions or were susceptible to the virus? And subsequently how many of the Big Ten athletes would fall into that category versus be considered extremely healthy?
14x85 is 1190. Multiplied by a 0.1% death rate in 20-29 age group that's 1.19 deaths, or 1 out of the entire population, not 120. Not sure where you got 120?One extra zero in my math. Sorry
And that's across the entire population, so it doesn't account for comorbid conditions. THAT SAID, if you'd clicked the link they also break out the percentages for people with comorbid conditions, where the numbers are much higher. If you take out comorbid conditions, the numbers drop to 2.7% hospitalized, 0.3% ICU, and it still says 0.1% death but that's probably rounding up. I would say that linemen would probably be considered to have comorbid conditions, because although they're in good health, they are clinically obese.
If you assume every one of those players is considered healthy with no comorbid conditions, and that over the course of the season every B1G player contracts COVID, you'd look at 1190x0.027, or 32 players requiring hospitalization.
Do you think the B1G would accept that number? Half that number?
so- the real question is- if they don’t play, how many of those 32 will end up hospitalized?Every one of those 1190 players has more control over their potential infection risk off the field than on it.
There is no data for that. Only intuition.
Every one of those 1190 players has more control over their potential infection risk off the field than on it.
On the field you simply have ZERO protection against infection. It's a contact sport. You're in close proximity to others on nearly every play. There are collisions. As I've said in other threads, a single linemen who is asymptomatic and contagious could be a superspreader considering the close contact to his teammates and his opponents (rotating through) on every play.
Now, some may argue that college students, being college students, will be dumb and reckless and won't be careful about their exposure off the field. They may not wear masks, may not social distance, may not do anything to protect themselves. I can't argue that; but that's their decision, not an inherent risk in being off the field. Inherent in being on the field is a complete inability to play the game while protecting yourself.
Interesting data. So by those numbers, if you figure 14 teams times an 85 man roster, we can expect roughly 120 of these players to die if they play??It's not a tragic mistake. The kids don't get to play football - nothing tragic about that. FFS
does anybody here believe that? Do you believe that? My guess is pretty much nobody does.
but why is that?
You're not really being very objective.
given that the players, and their parents, have every opportunity to opt out or opt in, I think it is a tragic mistake to cancel football or at least it try.
They can choose not to play the game. Nobody's forcing them to assume the inherent risk of being on the field. Some have already said they'd opt out. Many others have said "Let Us Play."To play devil's advocate, we often prevent people from doing potentially dangerous things even if they both want to do it and are willing to take on the risk. We close bars because we know that people will see the risk, assume it and do the thing they want. We make certain drugs illegal of the same reason. And those things don't take public institutions making an effort at all. (Shoot, college teams spend a LOT of time directing these young men's decisions, often at cost. What they want is most often a relatively minor consideration)
They know the risks. Acting like they're 10-year-olds who are incapable of making their own decisions isn't going to help them manage this situation.
They can choose not to play the game. Nobody's forcing them to assume the inherent risk of being on the field. Some have already said they'd opt out. Many others have said "Let Us Play."If they want to play football, they can play football. I'll bet there are plenty of fields open. Put together a game and play.
They know the risks. Acting like they're 10-year-olds who are incapable of making their own decisions isn't going to help them manage this situation.
One extra zero in my math. SorrySo it comes down to an unknowable thing?
so- the real question is- if they don’t play, how many of those 32 will end up hospitalized?
There is no data for that. Only intuition.
Half? zero? Twice as many? That’s what it comes down to. And those lineman you speak of, which is very debatable by the way, have an opportunity to opt out including conversations with their parents, but have opted in based upon the level of medical attention and protocols they see around them versus when they’re not with the team And those lineman you speak of, which is very debatable by the way, have an opportunity to opt out including conversations with their parents, but have opted in based upon the level of medical attention and protocols they see around them versus when they’re not with the team
People are really good at sacrificing other people's kids when it's in the name of something they want. Interesting.Technically it would be allowing someone else's kids to possibly sacrifice themselves, with a somewhat low chance of it happening.
I'm watching this 1990 UM-MSU game and they are really laying it on each other. They're trying to hurt the ball-carrier every play, on both sides.Holy cow, crazy ending!
Technically it would be allowing someone else's kids to possibly sacrifice themselves, with a somewhat low chance of it happening.I'm not even talking about deaths here. Any "let them play" people want to tell me about the stats on heart and/or lung damage going forward?
I'm not even talking about deaths here. Any "let them play" people want to tell me about the stats on heart and/or lung damage going forward?The stats would strike me as a tad inconclusive. I might think there's evidence of that and see some, but we're super early in the game. Plus football destroys people all the time.
It's not a tragic mistake. The kids don't get to play football - nothing tragic about that. FFSIt’s their entire life at this point in their life FFS.
Well we've got coaches voicing their desire to play games. Old men. So that's brilliant.3 months? Clueless. Why do people like you think you have the right to tell others what to do. You do what you want to do don’t tell other people how to think. Especially when you are completely clueless about what’s actually involved
And they cite how hard these kids (wait, now they're not kids, because they want to play football in a pandemic) have worked these past 3 months.....3 WHOLE MONTHS....for an unknown % of them to mangle their heart and/or lungs, possibly for the rest of their lives.
Thankfully, the B10 and Pac12 have actual adults running things.
If they want to play football, they can play football. I'll bet there are plenty of fields open. Put together a game and play.This is a pretty cheesy cop-out. They want to compete at the highest level and play the game in the same way they are accustomed to. And they know the risks, just as they know the risk of injury and CTE.
The Big Ten universities have said that they're not sanctioning official football in the fall. That doesn't mean nobody is allowed to play. It just means the universities [perhaps minus Nebraska] aren't sponsoring organized football competitions.
If the Big Ten chose to play, the players can choose not to. If the Big Ten chooses not to play, players can choose to play--wherever and whenever someone else offers them the opportunity.
3 months? Clueless. Why do people like you think you have the right to tell others what to do. You do what you want to do don’t tell other people how to think. Especially when you are completely clueless about what’s actually involvedYou're attacking my quote of the coaches, so....enjoy.
This is a pretty cheesy cop-out. They want to compete at the highest level and play the game in the same way they are accustomed to. And they know the risks, just as they know the risk of injury and CTE.I don't know how much they love playing the game at the highest level just for the love of the game. Maybe they do.
I don't know how much they love playing the game at the highest level just for the love of the game. Maybe they do.
But I'm pretty sure that, in addition to other factors, they want to build their brands for the NFL draft.
And some of them actually don't know the risks. They think it's nothing worse than the flu.
You're attacking my quote of the coaches, so....enjoy.Which coaches? The ones who are very angry because they think it is ridiculous that they cannot at least give the season a shot? The ones who said their players have worked year-round for this? The ones who sided specific players who were coming back for a fifth year after we having for a full year to get back? The ones who have players who were Heisman Trophy candidates and have a shot at the top draft pick?
Which coaches? The ones who are very angry because they think it is ridiculous that they cannot at least give the season a shot? The ones who said their players have worked year-round for this? The ones who sided specific players who were coming back for a fifth year after we having for a full year to get back? The ones who have players who were Heisman Trophy candidates and have a shot at the top draft pick?Yes, those.
Hard to spel left hanedI feel for you. How long do they expect the recovery to take?
I had an elderly gentleman at the barbershop tell me today he could tell I USED to lift weights (as an aside, I still do). If someone says they can tell you USED to lift weights is that a compliment or not?Not if your chest fell into your drawers or what they used to call furniture's disease
Hard to spel left hanedI've read learning to perform tasks with the less dominant hand sharpens the mind.Not that you need any help there of course
Well, every college around here has cancelled fall athletics. But HS FB gets going tonight. I suppose they still have 8 hours or so to pull the plug, but no indication that they will.I saw someone in Utah started last night. I hope that all goes off without a hitch.
Well we've got coaches voicing their desire to play games. Old men. So that's brilliant.
And they cite how hard these kids (wait, now they're not kids, because they want to play football in a pandemic) have worked these past 3 months.....3 WHOLE MONTHS....for an unknown % of them to mangle their heart and/or lungs, possibly for the rest of their lives.
Thankfully, the B10 and Pac12 have actual adults running things.
I don't know how much they love playing the game at the highest level just for the love of the game. Maybe they do.for the majority of healthy college kids the flu would be much worst
But I'm pretty sure that, in addition to other factors, they want to build their brands for the NFL draft.
And some of them actually don't know the risks. They think it's nothing worse than the flu.
for the majority of healthy college kids the flu would be much worst
I would say that linemen would probably be considered to have comorbid conditions, because although they're in good health, they are clinically obese.This might be incorrect.
And they are every bit as effective at spreading this easily transmissible virus to people with much higher morbidity as anyone else.
The asymptomatic nature of this is one of the reasons it is so hard to contain. So passing among people who are more likely to remain asymptomatic (while passing it to others) is part of the problem, not the solution.
This might be incorrect.I get this... This is one of those things that is personal to me. I'm 6'5" and 265#, which technically puts my BMI at obese. But I've got a 38" waist, and generally the other thing about male health is that you want a <40" waist. The problem is [although I'm no gym rat] that I just have far more muscle mass than average.
I manage the Healthcare where I work and at one point we were looking at basing the percentage that employees pay on whether or not the employee was a smoker and/or obese.
There are a couple of employees here who are gym-rat type workout fanatics. They are in excellent shape but they are technically obese if you simply look at the height/weight chart because these guys are so muscular that the muscle weighs enough to put them WAY over the weight to be considered "obese".
When we were looking at that they brought me an alternative that used a dunk tank to calculate the percentage of body fat. The point being that a "typical" American man who is 5' 9" and 220 pounds is seriously overweight. However my gym-rat workout fanatic was 5' 9" and 220 lbs and had a minimal amount of body fat and using the percentage of body fat method he was clearly NOT obese. My guess is that all of the DL and most of the OL would also have a low enough percentage of body fat to not be considered obese.
Sure. But, they shouldn't be interacting with those people anyway. Regardless of whether they're playing football or not. For the simple reason that they are out and about in society and this virus IS so commonly asymptomatic. Unless you're completely locked inside your own house 24/7, there's a chance you're getting it, and you should stay away from at-risk people.We abandoned it when certain people decided that they know better than others and can make decisions for other people.
At-risk people should also know to stay away from you-- that requires communication between people, something that the schools and the government simply can't mandate nor can it ensure.
I have no idea when we abandoned the idea of personal responsibility.
Honestly, folks, some decisions need to be made at the organizational (in some cases that means governmental) level. That doesn't mean we don't believe in personal responsibility, that means we know that individual decisions impact others, too, and impact others' autonomy.Respectfully, strongly disagree. I won’t make the case though, just move on. It would be too easy.
There are lots of examples of this that no one seems to disagree with. Focusing on football, who makes the rules for the competition? The league, not the individual participants. The individuals participate one way or another, but don't make personal decisions. The individuals choose whether to comply with them, but in so doing, among the sanctions, they risk being kicked out.
The societal version of that is prison. We make lots of rules about what "the people" can do that no one questions as "personal responsibility" issues. To HB's comment, the government always has and always will make decisions about what other people can do--as do the directors of athletic leagues.
There is always debate about just how much the government should regulate activities--that is, and always will be, a fundamental debate in a democracy (including a democratic republic). And in the present day both major political parties (and even the libertarians) advocate for policies that they favor that infringe on "personal rights" the other side (or sides) feel are sacred.
That's what's wrong with the, "what ever happened to personal responsibility" question. It basically applies to every organizational decision someone doesn't agree with. It's basically meaningless.
Utee, I agree with most of what I see you say around here, and I know you can take a little criticism, so here it is: that's a silly response in this situation.
Sure, at some point there are questions that probably most of us would agree are personal decisions (taking an extreme, which toothpaste we choose to use...or even if we choose to brush our teeth), but questions like how to participate in a sports league during a global pandemic hardly fall into the "what about personal responsibility" category. Disagreeing with the voters (in this case the B1G board) doesn't mean they don't believe in personal responsibility, it means they weighted the risks and benefits differently than you did. To pretend there is no real risk here flies in the face of what we know--and as importantly at this moment in time--what we don't know, which is a lot.
Respectfully, strongly disagree. I won’t make the case though, just move on. It would be too easy.Yes, but let's look at football... "Personal responsibility" doesn't just mean the players.
Yep. Just like in the other conferences.I still believe the other conferences are playing kick-the-can hoping that nothing horrific happens during practices, or in NFL training camps, etc... I'm not sure any of them will actually play this fall.
Don’t buy the 12-2 vote either.
I still believe the other conferences are playing kick-the-can hoping that nothing horrific happens during practices, or in NFL training camps, etc... I'm not sure any of them will actually play this fall.Agreed. We can agree to disagree with the Big Tens handling.
Every one of these conferences is already treading on the "are these students or are they employees generating revenue" knife-edge, and if they're putting their athletes through much riskier activities when they won't even all allow students to be in classrooms is a PR risk. Add in the risk of multiple players ending up in the hospital or on a ventilator, a player dying, or multiple players developing long-term health issues that potentially ruin their future opportunities to play competitive sports, and they have a HUGE liability bubble hanging over their heads.
If this thing goes south, the players who wanted to play won't be blamed--it'll be the universities that put them on the field [and were making $$$ off them the whole time].
Yep. Just like in the other conferences.better than when the Big 12 was formed
Don’t buy the 12-2 vote either.
Agreed. We can agree to disagree with the Big Tens handling.Agree. Some make the argument that they pulled the plug too early, and I can at least entertain that as reasonable.
so, you don't have practiceThey're athletes. It makes sense that they still have certain activities. Physical training and weight room, for example. Probably some position drills, playbook study with coaches, etc. I'm not saying you lock them in their dorm rooms, but you also don't have a season to prepare for so the practice demands shouldn't be the same.
just lock them in dorm rooms???
so, you don't have practicePub Crawls
just lock them in dorm rooms???
not sure about Purdue, but the Huskers need at least 20 hours per weekPurdue's young for about the 4th year in a row, and made more so with Rondale Moore [and likely Lorenzo Neal before all is said and done] clearly not planning to participate in fall/spring season. So they can use all the practice they can get.
as you know, many places would be practicing 50 hours a week, year around if the NCAA didn't have limits
it won't hurt those kids, might be good for them
Purdue's young for about the 4th year in a row, and made more so with Rondale Moore [and likely Lorenzo Neal before all is said and done] clearly not planning to participate in fall/spring season. So they can use all the practice they can get.this is obviously not the reason
But the point is that it might very well hurt these kids if they contract COVID during practice. If you're going to cancel the season, the entire point of it is to reduce COVID risk. If you're still going down regular-season practice guidelines, are you really doing it for player safety?
I'm not saying that they shouldn't do anything. But the conference shouldn't be putting those players through those activities when their season is ~6 months away if it happens at all.
better than when the Big 12 was formedOld hurts linger long, don't they?
all those votes were 11-1
this is obviously not the reasonThe issue there is thus: the arguments for playing are generally centered around the fact that covid is comparatively harmless for young people. The arguments against generally center around the idea that playing and preventing infections can't really happen, so kids will get infected no matter the efforts to prevent it, and our knowledge about it is still incomplete.
the reason is liability
How would you prove that the player got it from a game, and not class, dorms or a bar?The standard is more likely than not. If my client says her otherwise socially distanced, perhaps did classes online, and didn't go to a bar, and I can also prove that he played in close proximity to others who were infected, then the evidence would seem to point one way. If a cluster of infections arose among a team or multiple teams that played each other, then the burden quickly shifts to the university to prove otherwise.
The issue there is thus: the arguments for playing are generally centered around the fact that covid is comparatively harmless for young people. The arguments against generally center around the idea that playing and preventing infections can't really happen, so kids will get infected no matter the efforts to prevent it, and our knowledge about it is still incomplete.perhaps, but any player has the option to opt out and stay on scholarship - perhaps players that want to play and assume the risk could sign a waiver
So here's the thing. The colleges clearly profit from football. They know playing will lead to infections. So if they choose to play, and a player gets seriously ill, shouldn't they be liable for that?
perhaps, but any player has the option to opt out and stay on scholarship - perhaps players that want to play and assume the risk could sign a waiverA worthy question. Though colleges exist to educate people, not necessarily to play football. I think the huge amount of profit they make from football, compared to the more rank and file profit they make from education, factors into the equation.
if a general student gets COVID and thinks they picked it up in English class, shouldn't the university be liable?
UNL is taking more money from my daughter than they are taking from Adrian MartinezDefinitely true but are they funding their entire athletic department, including paying some of the highest salaries in the state, based on the contributions of your daughter?
How would you prove that the player got it from a game, and not class, dorms or a bar?Don't have to. Part of the danger of playing is that class, dorm, and bar exposure.
Don't have to. Part of the danger of playing is that class, dorm, and bar exposure.You would have to to prove liability which is the subject
I saw someone in Utah started last night. I hope that all goes off without a hitch.
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Almost a week after surgery, my arm is so so. I am able to move it a bit without much pain. Not taking pain mess, he gave me 40 pills, I took 3.When do you start rehab?
Overcast and grey here today. Feeling cute.
Would you say you have a high pain-tolerance? Taking only 3 of the 40 meds is impressive.No, not at all. I just don't like taking oxy. They were impressed my heart rate going into surgery was 47. They asked me if that was normal for me. I remember your flt phys.
With a lot of injuries, rest and therapy can produce great results. Shoulders seem to be an exception.So in other words...
I wonder if it's because the shoulder joint is not really a ball and socket. The ball is there but the socket is jury-rigged.
If you think of the primordial mammals, they didn't need to move their forelimbs through 360 degrees. Mammalian forelimbs were never designed to do the things that we humans and our ape cousins do with our arms.
So in other words...You know what they called the hunter who tried to take down a mammoth with an underhand-thrown spear?
throwing underhand > throwing overhand
not for velocity, but for long-term structural integrity
So in other words...As the father of a softball pitcher, yes. You don’t have to worry nearly as much about wearing a softball pitcher’s arm out. Little league baseball will have pitch counts on boys. Softball has nothing like that for girls.
throwing underhand > throwing overhand
not for velocity, but for long-term structural integrity
You know what they called the hunter who tried to take down a mammoth with an underhand-thrown spear?Dead
Hungry .
No, not at all. I just don't like taking oxy. They were impressed my heart rate going into surgery was 47. They asked me if that was normal for me. I remember your flt phys.I just went to give blood and was rejected because my pulse was 49.Even went for a walk and drank some coffee - still 49.Has to be 50,I have to wait a week.happened once last year also
I just went to give blood and was rejected because my pulse was 49.Even went for a walk and drank some coffee - still 49.Has to be 50,I have to wait a week.happened once last year alsoMy blood giving story was my wife dragged me to give blood and said we would get free Cane's out of the deal. Ok, sounds good. We go and she gets rejected right away for having low iron, so she goes and gorges on chicken strips while I get the needle. When I'm finally done they were all out of Cane's.
. When I'm finally done they were all out of Cane's.Ha!Should have checked the staff's fridge.I've been donating since the late '80's,usually go every 8-10 weeks.One time with the Red Cross the phlebotomist was giving me a little grief because my donation was dragging on.I forget why but they have to draw one pint with in 20 minutes or they can't use the blood except for training purposes.Any way the dimb bulb finally realized she had inadvertantly pulled my exit tube underneath the gurney leg pinching it basically eliminating my donation.Then she's like oops,my bad she asked if I'd like to come back again in a week .I told her "NO" but I'd like to fill out a card for how my experience was - and did
I get this... This is one of those things that is personal to me. I'm 6'5" and 265#, which technically puts my BMI at obese. But I've got a 38" waist, and generally the other thing about male health is that you want a <40" waist. The problem is [although I'm no gym rat] that I just have far more muscle mass than average.Interesting thought.
That said, what we don't know at this point about COVID is whether it cares whether all that mass is muscle or fat. I hadn't heard about any comorbid conditions for the Indiana lineman other than just being enormous. There are some issues from obesity that are size-related, not body fat % related.
So I don't really know if linemen are "protected" by the fact that they're athletes or not. None of us really know, because people who are that large but also in that great of shape are a very small population.
Side note:I'm wondering @bwarbiany (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=19) if you or anyone else has any thoughts on this? How would you feel about it as an employee if you were a smoker or overweight or both?
I actually liked the obese surcharge more than the smoker surcharge because I think it would have been MUCH more effective at encouraging healthy lifestyles.
Smoking surcharge:
Have you ever read the way this question is usually phrased? It sounds like the McCarthy hearings where they asked "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?" The smoker question typically is phrased as follows:
"Have you used any tobacco product within the last twelve months?"
I have several issues with that. First, a guy who smokes cigars a few times a year isn't actually costing us anything on the healthcare. A couple cigars a year aren't a problem.
More importantly this provides little-or-no motivation to quit because the payoff is so far away. If you are a smoker you have to quit, then wait a year, then you get a break on your healthcare. I just don't think that feels very tangible to the smoker because it is so far away.
Unfortunately, with smoking, there isn't a good way to measure and enforce an incremental charge. Ie, assume the percentage for non-smokers is 25% then you could have increments of:
- Somebody who smokes a few times a year pays 27%
- Somebody who smokes up to 1/2 a pack a day pays 30%
- Somebody who smokes a pack a day pays 35%
- Somebody who smokes a pack and a half a day pays 40%
- Somebody who smokes two or more packs a day pays 45%
There isn't any good way to police that. All your smokers could just claim that they are only occasional or 1/2 pack a day smokers and pay 27% or 30%.
Back to motivation for a minute. I quit smoking a few years ago. When I started a pack was well under $2. You only paid $2 if you ran out at a concert or something. I remember when I was at Ohio State there was a store across the street from my dorm that sold pizza, beer, and cigarettes. They were open really late and even they only charged $2/pack. I quit buying them and started rolling my own when the taxes pushed it over $3/pack. The last time I bought a pack I think it was $5 (I had run out of pre-rolled and didn't have time to roll more). At this point a pack-a-day smoker is paying ~$2k/yr for smokes. H/she already has a $2k/yr motivation to quit and that one is immediate. Quit (or even just cut back) and start saving money immediately. A few dollars off on healthcare that you will not actually get until you are a full year clear isn't going to move the needle for them.
Obesity surcharge:
This works much better incrementally and therefore provides a great tangible motivation for people. The model I was advocating would have used a baseline when we started. If you were overweight then each year going forward you would pay:
- 25% if you were no longer overweight.
- 27% if you lost at least 75% of the amount by which you had been overweight.
- 30% if you lost at least 50% of the amount by which you had been overweight.
- 35% if you lost at least 25% of the amount by which you had been overweight.
- 40% if you neither gained nor lost more than 25% of the amount by which you had been overweight.
- 45% if you gained more than 25% of the amount by which you were previously overweight.
Ok, this might make more sense with an example. I'm 6-2 and I currently weigh 226 lbs. The CDC says I should weigh 186 lbs so I'm overweight by 40 pounds (226-186=40). Thus, 25% of the amount by which I am overweight is 10 pounds.I REALLY like this idea. It creates a tangible and achievable goal for every employee.
- If I get down to 186 lbs by next year I pay 25%
- If I get down to 195 next year I pay 27%
- If I get down to 205 next year I pay 30%
- If I get down to 215 next year I pay 35%
- If stay between 216 and 235 next year I pay 40%
- If I weigh more than 235 next year I pay 45%
Another example:
I had an employee (he recently finally retired after milking BWC for all of his weight-related injuries for YEARS) who was morbidly obese. He is about my height so we'll say 6-2 but he probably weighs 400+ so call it 402 lbs. Even for him, there would be achievable goals. Using my proposal above, he would be overweight by 214 lbs (402-186=216). Thus, 25% of the amount by which he is overweight is 54 pounds:
- If he gets down to 186 lbs next year he pays 25% (lose 216#)
- If he gets down to 240 lbs next year he pays 27% (lose 162#)
- If he gets down to 294 lbs next year he pays 30% (lose 108#)
- If he gets down to 348 lbs next year he pays 35% (lose 54#)
- If he stays between 349 and 456 lbs next year he pays 40%
- If he weighs more than 456 lbs next year he pays 45%
My point is that if I told this 400# guy that he'd get a break on his healthcare if he got down to 186# that would provide literally zero motivation. I might as well tell him that we'll give him a break if he jumps over the moon. However, even for a guy THAT obese, losing 25% of the excess in a year is a plausibly achievable goal. Look, I understand that 54 lbs is a LOT of weight to lose in a year and for a guy my size it would be nearly impossible but for a guy who starts out at 400+ that is achievable.
I'm wondering @bwarbiany (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=19) if you or anyone else has any thoughts on this? How would you feel about it as an employee if you were a smoker or overweight or both?I don't mind it, in theory, for things that are purely "behavioral", such as smoking. But I worry in practice that it will have a lot of unintended consequences, and potentially be a slippery slope to other things.
We WERE going to Sweden in September. I was looking forward to it.you sure go over seas a lot
are you now or have you ever been with the CIA
We WERE going to Sweden in September. I was looking forward to it.As I've said, Sweden was interesting in how non-foreign it felt. The Swedes speak better English than most Americans...
oh reeeeeeeeeeeeeally
I was a member of No Such Agency. My step son in law is a graduate of the CIA. Really.
The 11 year old started today. He's in the autism-specific class, so with the exception of me making sure he participated in his PE portion, it was pretty useless. I got a workout during PE class though lol ;-)what city are you in
The 8 yo and 13 yo start next Monday.
what city are you inI'm in Mission Viejo.
I'm in Mission Viejo.thats got to be California
thats got to be CaliforniaYeah, California.
I didnt realize they were even opening their schools
I don't mind it, in theory, for things that are purely "behavioral", such as smoking. But I worry in practice that it will have a lot of unintended consequences, and potentially be a slippery slope to other things.Thanks for answering.
Regarding the "obesity", obviously I have my own issue with that if it's purely based on BMI, which is not applicable to everyone. And for a lot of people, weight is not simply behavioral anyway.
In general the less my employer is doing to control my behavior outside the workplace, the better. But we have a system that through historical accident led to employer-based health insurance, so they have an incentive to try to do whatever they can to reduce costs.
I've said before that I favor the Swiss system. If we're basically going to have a level of socialized medicine (and we do, with the mandate and the subsidies), the least we can do is do socialized medicine right. The Swiss system is about as well designed as their watches.
We may be in or approaching a worst-of-both-worlds point with our level of socialization in medicine. Sometimes I look at our convoluted system and think that it looks like someone decided to take all the worst features of the private and the socialized systems and mash them together such that we get most of the detriments of both private and socialized systems. Ie, there is an argument to be made that we'd be better off with either.It's pretty messed up, to be sure.
That was one of their best. They are like the old SNL.Yup that one was good.
I think Switzerland and Sweden are better countries than Americajackwagon
but, I'm not moving unless I move to Texas
jackwagonI keep looking for openings at that gigantic company in Round Rock, but not finding anything yet that suits me.
I keep looking for openings at that gigantic company in Round Rock, but not finding anything yet that suits me.Yup we're never hiring. You should try Microsoft in Seattle or something.
I keep looking for openings at that gigantic company in Round Rock, but not finding anything yet that suits me.rumor that Apple is moving there
rumor that Apple is moving thereand bringing all their left coast weirdos with them
I think Switzerland and Sweden are better countries than AmericaThey sure kicked ass against the Nazis.
but, I'm not moving unless I move to Texas
Stalin wanted to kick Switzerlands ass - he hated them.Counting gold & silver while everyone else pays the butchers billI mean, I'm sure he wanted to crush many people and places, butcher that he was.
rumor that Apple is moving thereI just saw a job opening for Apple there. Too software oriented for me.
Stalin wanted to kick Switzerlands ass - he hated them.Counting gold & silver while everyone else pays the butchers billStalin hated a lot of things in his life. He did like Georgia though.
Stalin hated a lot of things in his life. He did like Georgia though.(https://i.imgur.com/3dcXdLZ.png)
Stalin would live to see it today I think.Do they make Vodka from peanuts or pecans
Well, the French make some of their vodka from grapes...Isn't that called brandy?
Isn't that called brandy?Most brandies are aged in wood.
I had to drive 40 miles north of town to see a lawyer (boring story). Traffic was pretty heavy, maybe I'm not used to it, midday. I-75 is 6 or 7 lanes on each side with a two lane toll parallel express lane (which was horrendously expensive). People are out and about here, for real.Atlanta's growth is amazing.
I stopped at Wally World on the way back, it was fairly crowded, everyone with masks, some masks not over the nose as usual.
Even 40 miles north of me is still suburbia. This place is really spread out. That's the largest state east of the large river and the red blotch is metro ATL. Stalin would live to see it today I think.
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I recently read a new book about the Atlanta campaign that was fairly critical of Sherman's tactics. I found myself often in disagreement, but it was interesting to see a different perspective, and perhaps the author was more correct. I've been reading more details about the campaigns in Virginia in 1862-1863 and remain astonished that the Union could not find a general with "grit". Hooker had Lee in bad shape in 1863 and simply stopped. Lee didn't even have Longstreet's corps with him.When I lived in Marietta, our neighbors behind us that we hung out with were named Jackson. The wife [originally from Gainesville GA] was originally a Hooker though.
That is of course how the term "hookers" came into the vernacular.
When I lived in Marietta, our neighbors behind us that we hung out with were named Jackson. The wife [originally from Gainesville GA] was originally a Hooker though.
Stalin would live to see it today I think."Love"?
"Love"?There was a documentary of some sort where they read weird parts of diaries of despots over newsreel footage of them. I can't recall if he was in it, but he would've fit.
Either way, either Georgia, it beats the scenery he's enjoying in Hell.
I live in Marietta and have done so for 40 years. Where did you live?Midtown, on the park.
I live in Marietta and have done so for 40 years. Where did you live?Off Shallowford Rd relatively near Canton Rd. 2005-2007.
Off Shallowford Rd relatively near Canton Rd. 2005-2007.I used to live off Trickem Road behind Lassiter High School. Lassiter is on the corner of Sandy Plains and Trickem. Small world.
This thread could become obsolete if the twitters are true.
This thread could become obsolete if the twitters are true.what are you speaking of
See article posted on OSU's AD working on a season.Badge, I already have six threads where I can.
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a32288225/2020-cadillac-ct4-v-drive/?src=socialflowFBCAD&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=socialflowFBCD&fbclid=IwAR2Yh_EPWYdm40kZ7oiyLWl7EScN8aAad146B8tOmqYDtNh6JZjNehOzX2Y (https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a32288225/2020-cadillac-ct4-v-drive/?src=socialflowFBCAD&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=socialflowFBCD&fbclid=IwAR2Yh_EPWYdm40kZ7oiyLWl7EScN8aAad146B8tOmqYDtNh6JZjNehOzX2Y)Cadillac is an interesting story, much like Buick and Oldsmobile. They all had an "image" that they were premium products for high-SES adults. But when the German and Japanese luxury brands came in, "younger" drivers grew to view a BMW or Lexus as a status symbol and a Cadillac/Buick/Olds as "what dad drives".
I have lost some whatever for Cadillac. I had two CTS', 2005 and then 2018. I liked both. The '18 was a marked step up.
Now they have "switched back" again and renamed them, which I dislike as a marketing strategy. This may be a decent car for the money, you can probably get one at a big discount. I don't understand where Caddy is headed. If they make all their money off SUVs, fine, make SUVs, and perhaps a few sedans. They engineered a fine DOHC V8 called the Blackwing and barely used it in anything. Now it's dead. They moved to NYC, and then moved back.
And supposedly they are going right at Tesla in two years. I doubt that works out for them.
I really didn't need to see that againYou didn't like the Chevy Cavalier with Caddy stickers on it??
Sold the Lake Michigan boat yesterday. Now it's time to look for a replacement, one with sliding glass doors.looks like the mouse I use on my computer
Something like
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Fires are unusually close to us. Not overly surprising, nor likely to become a danger to us, but still a little unnerving--and bad air quality to go with it (though not as bad as with some of the brutal fires we had out here in the last couple of years). Curiously, the folks out on the coast, who are much closer to the actual burn, have better air quality because of the wind coming off the Pacific.This is really effecting our visibility. There is a gigantic mountain just north of town that is typically in HD, but you can hardly even see it this week.
sliding doors not required in Florida?Nah. We have a house to live in down there. We'll do the in/out service so it's not going to be in the water, except when I'm using it.
Tiger Wood's dingy?Hey, you scratched my anchor!
I put an offer in on one of these a few days ago, for Florida.
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Time to buy a lift kit for the Jeep, since my fall Saturdays are wide open for installation.
Looking for a 2.5" lift which is reasonable and will allow for 35s. Trying to figure which of three options to get... AEV, Teraflex, or Old Man Emu...
That would be a fun project! I'm new to the world of Jeeps and lifts, so I'm not much help. I don't know AEV or Old Man Emu, I've heard from more experienced Jeep friends that they like Terflex, and of course lots of people recommend Metalcloak.Yeah, full suspension lift. Do I seem like a "just spacers" guy to you lol?
I'm assuming you're doing a full lift with new shocks/springs, rather than just spacers?
Our 2017 JKU is a Rubicon already so it already has a bit of a factory lift on it and came stock with 33s, but can run 35s without needing any further lift. The current/original tires are still in great shape (it only had 17K miles on it when we bought it), but when it's time to go to new tires, I'll probably increase to 35s.
I'd be thinking something more like this for Florida...
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https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a32288225/2020-cadillac-ct4-v-drive/?src=socialflowFBCAD&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=socialflowFBCD&fbclid=IwAR2Yh_EPWYdm40kZ7oiyLWl7EScN8aAad146B8tOmqYDtNh6JZjNehOzX2Y (https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a32288225/2020-cadillac-ct4-v-drive/?src=socialflowFBCAD&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=socialflowFBCD&fbclid=IwAR2Yh_EPWYdm40kZ7oiyLWl7EScN8aAad146B8tOmqYDtNh6JZjNehOzX2Y)GM has had trouble determining what it should do for a couple of decades now. It has produced some brilliant cars but more real clunkers.
I have lost some whatever for Cadillac. I had two CTS', 2005 and then 2018. I liked both. The '18 was a marked step up.
Now they have "switched back" again and renamed them, which I dislike as a marketing strategy. This may be a decent car for the money, you can probably get one at a big discount. I don't understand where Caddy is headed. If they make all their money off SUVs, fine, make SUVs, and perhaps a few sedans. They engineered a fine DOHC V8 called the Blackwing and barely used it in anything. Now it's dead. They moved to NYC, and then moved back.
And supposedly they are going right at Tesla in two years. I doubt that works out for them.
I don't expect any kind of level headedness in the media these days."The media" is a mirror. It's easy and fun to blame it, but it's solely providing what the masses want. It's not about finding a source that provides truth, but which source provides confirmation bias.
I saw someone get shot today. I stuck around to tell the police what I saw - that the shooting victim was the aggressor.That’s not fun. I witnessed a murder when I was 18 and it still haunts me.
"The media" is a mirror. It's easy and fun to blame it, but it's solely providing what the masses want. It's not about finding a source that provides truth, but which source provides confirmation bias.I certainly agree with that. I was interviewed twice by John King on CNN. The first time I thought I got a reasonable shake, the second time, the edited version they showed was no reflective of what I said, but was what they expected me to say.
That’s not fun. I witnessed a murder when I was 18 and it still haunts me.A guy got shot in the leg. I assume he'll be fine. I just really wanted to emphasize to the police that the guy with the gun did everything he could not to use it.
A guy got shot in the leg. I assume he'll be fine. I just really wanted to emphasize to the police that the guy with the gun did everything he could not to use it.Arizona doesnt require a carry permit so if hes 21 and it was self defense he should be ok
It was some homeless guys outside a McDonalds, then across a major street. Crazy.
You didn't like the Chevy Cavalier with Caddy stickers on it??Hey, don't sell them short, they also had power seats!
I mean, it came standard with A/C and an AM/FM radio!!
Cadillac is an interesting story, much like Buick and Oldsmobile. They all had an "image" that they were premium products for high-SES adults. But when the German and Japanese luxury brands came in, "younger" drivers grew to view a BMW or Lexus as a status symbol and a Cadillac/Buick/Olds as "what dad drives".GM's incompetence is legendary. I think the main problem is that the organization (GM as a whole) is so huge that it is almost inherent that there are parts of it always doing things that seem to make sense locally (ie, within that brand) but make no sense on an entity-wide basis.
So they never really replaced their consumer base, and then their consumer base started dying of old age. Oldsmobile didn't survive, Buick is trying to pivot, and Cadillac seems to be all over the place.
I wonder how much of this is that those brands never really tried to create an "entry" model. Something like the BMW 3-series or Lexus iS. A car that's expensive enough to be aspirational but inexpensive and stylish enough to appeal to a well-to-do <30 year old. I feel like Cadillac and Buick are trying to do this... And not quite succeeding.
Buick as a performance car?Back in the day, the 442.
what's their version of the Camaro?
or just Buick's hottest performance offering? Anything with a V8?
Back in the day, the 442.That was Olds. I had one. Buick had the GS.
Pontiac had a much more pronounced performance heritage than Buick, the GTO and Firebird of course. I heard Buick described as the car for dentists, and the Caddy as the car for MDs.
What does lift do for a Jeep beyond the obvious?For off-roading, the lift and then bigger wheels/tires increase ground clearance, which is obviously important driving over things. Also this increases the approach, break-over, and departure angles, which allows you to drive over bigger things. Beyond that, the change in springs and shocks can improve [or reduce] ride quality and maintain handling relative to stock--one of the key aspects in my selection was that the kit was very highly rated on those metrics.
Oldsmobile 4-4-2.It was special! My older brother had one!
Originally stood for 4-barrel carb, 4-speed tranny, dual exhaust.
From 1970 to 1972, they were both pretty hot and pretty well-equipped in the "comfort and looks" department.
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I can't seem to find where the discussion of flying cars was.Boondoggle.
Anyway, the Air Force wants some.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/04/30/air-force-wants-30-flying-cars-next-10-years.html (https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/04/30/air-force-wants-30-flying-cars-next-10-years.html)
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/08/24/first-of-many-air-force-leaders-watch-flying-car-demo.html?ESRC=eb_200825.nl (https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/08/24/first-of-many-air-force-leaders-watch-flying-car-demo.html?ESRC=eb_200825.nl)
Maybe the military should invest in these things called helocopters.This design shows promise.
This design shows promise.(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/118118721_3229540180456813_2611201978377302120_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=rlwzSvngN8sAX8AfU4I&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&tp=7&oh=67ba89ca50837559adda00f193606c67&oe=5F698425)
I did a top ten list way back when, but it's out of date now, though number 1 hasn't changed.One of my "bottom 5" Purdue football moments came against Wisconsin.
Helicopters are difficult to fly and generally pretty dangerous. And not as stupid as flying cars (for the reasons noted above). . . .
Hmm, boss says if I wanted to move to Denver or Austin he'd support it. And the way the company works I'd have no change to salary.I hear Denver is a great place to live
Hmm, boss says if I wanted to move to Denver or Austin he'd support it. And the way the company works I'd have no change to salary.no brainer, is your house for sale yet?
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no brainer, is your house for sale yet?I rent. If I still had the house I bought in 2010 (in which I would probably have $300K+ in equity right now) I probably wouldn't be thinking of moving.
(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/118118721_3229540180456813_2611201978377302120_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=rlwzSvngN8sAX8AfU4I&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&tp=7&oh=67ba89ca50837559adda00f193606c67&oe=5F698425)That C-47 and that senorita both look in great shape - good find
On Saturday my mobile phone bounced out of the pocket of a bag it was in and fell to the asphalt, cracking the screen. Nasty--and the first time since I've had *smart* phones that it happened to me and was thoroughly my fault (SFIrish once kicked my iPad out of the passenger side door in a parking lot). Yesterday my work sent a messenger to take it to the shop for a replacement screen, making the last 24 hours the first time in forever that I didn't have a phone with me. Just got it back.I dont even own a cell phone
Ok, while I was backpacking this summer, I didn't turn it on; and when we canoed the Allagash in Maine we were out of coverage (and it was packed away) most of the time. But the first time in normal civilized life that I didn't have it. Felt strange, and liberating--but not liberating enough that I will likely ever go back to not having a mobile phone with me most of the time.
I dont even own a cell phoneSame-same,however Cindy lost the cell - twice
Use a land line
The only time I had a cell phone was back in the working world when my boss would go ape shit if he couldnt get a hold of meI need a cell phone for work.
upon retirement that need went away and Ive been very happy without one
I forget the particulars of it, and wikipedia isn't helping me remember, but once upon I did some work for an important player in the mobile phone technology market, and it was hammered into us that essentially none of us have "cell" phones. To them--this particular technology client--modern mobile phone technology is distinct from traditional "cell" technology. But in the U.S. we routinely call our phones cell phones. Anyway, this client of ours made a point to get us to say "mobile" phones. To this day I mostly call my phone a mobile phone, but in the U.S. this remains an uphill battle. I think a better way to say it is that the battle is lost: in the U.S. we all have cell phones (even if none of us do).Even AT&T calls them cell phones
The term reminds of my stint in prison years ago.Even with the little I know about you, I'm assuming you're talking about a tourist tour of the defunct Alcatraz or something...
That C-47 and that senorita both look in great shape - good findfrom august 19th.............
yup, just like referring to grilling food as BBQthems fighten words pardner
and referring to chili soup with beans as simply chili
yup, just like referring to grilling food as BBQSome men just want to watch the world burn.
and referring to chili soup with beans as simply chili
from august 19th.............Longest-lasting airplane in history. And probably the best air transport plane ever made.
" PIN-UP IN THE HOLD OF A C-47 Skytrain" METAL SIGN....
Here's a nice way to pay tribute to Aviation Day today. The Douglas C-47 Skytrain or Dakota is a military transport aircraft developed from the civilian Douglas DC-3 airliner. It was used extensively by the Allies during World War II and remains in front-line service with various military operators.
Some men just want to watch the world burn.my grandmother called it chili soup
(If I call it chili soup with beans, does that excuse liking it more as a meal on its own?)
my grandmother called it chili soupshould be called bean soup and not using the sacred word of "chili"
well, there was a teaspoon of chili powder in a 3 gallon potIn Texas you need a special permit to use that stuff
along with some beans, onions, tomater sauce, and ground beef
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I'm pretty sure we had the same can of McCormick chili powder for my entire childhood....I use McCormick's chili seasoning mix when I make my crock pot chili
I use McCormick's chili seasoning mix when I make my crock pot chilithat might be allowed up here in Yankee country, but not in the bowels of Texas
its pretty good just the right amount of hotness
that might be allowed up here in Yankee country, but not in the bowels of Texaswell I dont brag about it I just eat it
I make chili from a blend of 3-6 varieties of dried chile peppers, reconstituted in hot water, and then blended into oblivion in the Vitamix. It takes a little longer than using powder but tastes much better.(https://i.imgur.com/OwLR5yN.png)
I'm pretty sure we had the same can of McCormick chili powder for my entire childhood....and Adolph's Meat Tenderizer and OLD BAY Seasoning.Pretty sure we left it for the new owners when we moved her
I make chili from a blend of 3-6 varieties of dried chile peppers, reconstituted in hot water, and then blended into oblivion in the Vitamix. It takes a little longer than using powder but tastes much better.Ya and you left out Pinto,Black and Kidney Beans - the Trinity if you will
Ya and you left out Pinto,Black and Kidney Beans - the Trinity if you willi c w u d t
I've always said that if I'm going to whack a white ball, there better be a fence, or someone with a mitt to catch it and throw it back.When I whack a white ball alone, I prefer to be by myself.
Gonna run to the local clubfitter this afternoon to get my putter re-grippedWe should all get our putter regripped from time to time
I'm sure that newer clubs could give me a little more control and add a little length to the white ball whacking (see all that I did there? Yeah, I'm still 12 at heart), but the reality is I've never had someone help me fix my terrible slicing swing. I can see from every divot I've ever hit that I'm striking the ball moving right to left, so my slice is pronounced. It's a bummer, but it's so consistent that I'm actually reasonably adept at just playing the darn thing. Of course, every now and again I'll hit a beauty: dead straight...well to the left of the course because I was aiming so far over there to compensate for my slice. Sigh.Well, the standard fix for a slice is to line up with the ball closer to your back foot, but you've probably tried that.
#3: January 1, 1999, #9 Wisconsin 38, #6 UCLA 31, Rose Bowl.I remember this game well!
"The worst team ever to play in the Rose Bowl." That was, at least according to Craig James, your 1998 Wisconsin Badgers. It was Ron Dayne's junior year. Mike Samuel was under center. Chris Chambers was an unpolished deep threat. 11-1 notwithstanding, with only a single win over a ranked team (#14 Penn State), Wisconsin wasn't supposed to be in Pasadena. But there we were. Across the field from a legitimate national title contender with Heisman hopeful Cade McKnown and playing in their home stadium. Wisconsin was a 10-point dog.
It wasn't pretty -- the defense gave up 538 yards and 31 points -- but it was enough. The Bruins had no answer for Ron Dayne, who averaged over 9 yards per carry and scored all 4 offensive touchdowns (seen here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loT5v9zEZRE&feature=related), here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZUCcpERs_0&feature=related), here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmh8x4tqOeE&NR=1), here (http://tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CkNNeJtbN8&feature=related), and here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojoX2__5Wqc&feature=related)). Late in the game, with a slight 31-28 lead, Freshman Jamar Fletcher stepped in front of DeShaun Foster on a deep route to midfield. Fletcher made the pick and followed a convoy of blockers to the house, to give the Badgers a 10-point lead with 14 minutes to play. The Badgers held on for the win. Suck it, Craig James.
no brainer, is your house for sale yet?I was thinking the same thing. Even money in California vs TX or CO is a HUMONGOUS difference in standard of living!
I was thinking the same thing. Even money in California vs TX or CO is a HUMONGOUS difference in standard of living!As usual, it's complicated.
As usual, it's complicated.I have a 17 month old (tomorrow) son and in a few week's he'll have a little sister so I completely understand. Even with a school year / summer custody schedule it would be unbearable for me to be away from my son for nine months at a time.
If I didn't have the kids (who would require moving to a school year / summer custody schedule with their mom) I could make that change in an instant.
Of course, if I didn't have kids I'd have a hell of a lot more money to be able to afford CA!
move for the sake of your children!Actually it's a potential reason... The idea that perhaps they'd actually expand their horizons by seeing that not everything is like Southern California would help. And if in Austin, there would *definitely* be a pool, which would give them something to do during the long hot summers they'd be there.
I'm a firm believer in the idea that travel expands someone as a person, so the more they can get that, the better.I don't think this can be argued otherwise, unless you travel to goofy spots like Pigeon Forge or Myrtle Beach.
I don't think this can be argued otherwise, unless you travel to goofy spots like Pigeon Forge or Myrtle Beach.Pigeon Forge is near Knoxville, which I think could expand the mind. Maybe even Dollywood as a piece of strange Americana.
Maybe even then.
Yeah, there are always the people who say "Oh, I *love* traveling to Mexico" and what they mean is "I love getting off an airplane, taking the resort transportation to the very cushy resort that is in no way representative of the culture, sitting by the pool drinking margaritas and ordering 'the help' around, and then going straight back to the airport."I engage in that sort of travel too. It's just usually pricy local fried food and greasy diners.
No, that's the kind of travel that can only expand the waistline, not the perspective.
I just cite PF and MB as two places least likely to expand your horizons as a traveler, unless you're French.I've only driven by. It sounds exotic, but in a bad way.
I drove through PF with the wife once and she told me "NEVER bring me back here again ever."
I remember when it was bucolic.
I engage in that sort of travel too. It's just usually pricy local fried food and greasy diners.I love wandering around cities. My wife knows that any time we travel she'd better pack her walking shoes--and probably expect that I'm going to drag her somewhere not quite on the guidebook maps.
(Real talk, I don't think I've been anywhere all THAT touristy outside LV. Unless you count just going to a big city and wandering. Even touristy New Orelans is its own thing, and I tried to not spent that much time in the cliche spots. It helped I had family that believed in a certain brand of random road tripping)
The wife loves to go to Hawaii. We stay at a resort there. It's nice.The first ever vacation with my wife, was Hawaii. We stayed at a resort. So I dragged her on a 10.5 mi hike of the Haleakala crater lol...
The wife says I tried to kill her in Zion NP, which is really something to see I think.You trying to kill her, or Zion?
Clamp your ham?Have you been in the Marzens?12pk of Paulaner Oktoberfest Marzen chilling in the fridge, but I'm not into them YET.
I have a case of Live Oak Oaktoberfest in the fridge. Gotta wait til it gets below 100 to drink it though.I dunno, if I lived in Austin with a pool and air conditioning, I'll bet I could find a way...
I have a case of Live Oak Oaktoberfest in the fridge. Gotta wait til it gets below 100 to drink it though.Why don't you have mr tito show mr live oak how to sell to the rest of the country.Then I'd try it.Of course we could always arrange a swap not sure if courriers do that or if it's legal.The horror of all horrors - the cargo breaks on the way.Never mind - call the whole thing off.Maybe we could get Cinci to fly some up/back like the old Ganja drops
I dunno, if I lived in Austin with a pool and air conditioning, I'll bet I could find a way...
...hoping that happens soon.
Why don't you have mr tito show mr live oak how to sell to the rest of the country.Then I'd try it.Of course we could always arrange a swap not sure if courriers do that or if it's legal.The horror of all horrors - the cargo breaks on the way.Never mind - call the whole thing off.Maybe we could get Cinci to fly some up/back like the old Ganja dropsMan Tito is such am amazing success story. I recently read he's worth somewhere between $4-$8 billion. With a B. That's just unbelievable.
Man Tito is such am amazing success story. I recently read he's worth somewhere between $4-$8 billion. With a B.Seriously and he should thank you profusely...and me a little back in '03-'04 you were espousing it's virtues and at the time it was the only distillery in Texas.I went to two good sized distributors here and they said they could get it.And they did and after perhaps 6 months they could hardly keep it in stock.Taste and price drove it.It was destroying Grey Goose and all the other hoity-toity brands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy6K0KoMrco (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy6K0KoMrco)Impressive.
Sadly Live Oak can really only support distribution in Texas right now. Chip didn't hit the beer market at quite the same time Tito hit the American vodka market, relatively speaking. It would have been a lot harder for him to blow up the way Tito did.Yeah, I used to lament the fact that so many breweries were expanding, but not into California. You'd see Colorado breweries that were all across the Mountain West, Southwest, Pacific Northwest, but not in California.
It's been out if you weren't beating the ground with sticks and set the Bud Fat down you would have known itI don't go to the store for provisions much
I tried some of this at dinner the other night, it's pretty good.111 proof?
https://wineonlinedelivery.com/product/chattanooga-straight-bourbon-whiskey-111-proof-750-ml/?utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=shp&utm_network=u&utm_mobile=0&utm_creative=443012841818&utm_position=&utm_random=2901188899920654402&gclid=Cj0KCQjw-af6BRC5ARIsAALPIlV6DrJPP_8OBKcPvZD4AkP96zIKKZmN-dyuB7sL9imErlfzmJxDkTQaAj8tEALw_wcB&utm_campaign=shopping%20-%20florida%20(fl)&utm_ad_group_id=88630&utm_campaign_id=359550&utm_prod_id=661828 (https://wineonlinedelivery.com/product/chattanooga-straight-bourbon-whiskey-111-proof-750-ml/?utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=shp&utm_network=u&utm_mobile=0&utm_creative=443012841818&utm_position=&utm_random=2901188899920654402&gclid=Cj0KCQjw-af6BRC5ARIsAALPIlV6DrJPP_8OBKcPvZD4AkP96zIKKZmN-dyuB7sL9imErlfzmJxDkTQaAj8tEALw_wcB&utm_campaign=shopping - florida)
Chattanooga bourbon 111 proof.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy6K0KoMrco (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy6K0KoMrco)
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a23391373/theres-a-lot-you-need-to-consider-before-buying-tires/?src=socialflowFBRAT&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=socialflowR%26T&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3Xp8WfHMtR-P0asPJG75TLL9dtfLprGroaaIpwaKpg9RV8XO_XJUb6ajM (https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a23391373/theres-a-lot-you-need-to-consider-before-buying-tires/?src=socialflowFBRAT&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=socialflowR%26T&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3Xp8WfHMtR-P0asPJG75TLL9dtfLprGroaaIpwaKpg9RV8XO_XJUb6ajM)Interesting article.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a23391373/theres-a-lot-you-need-to-consider-before-buying-tires/?src=socialflowFBRAT&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=socialflowR%26T&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3Xp8WfHMtR-P0asPJG75TLL9dtfLprGroaaIpwaKpg9RV8XO_XJUb6ajM (https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a23391373/theres-a-lot-you-need-to-consider-before-buying-tires/?src=socialflowFBRAT&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=socialflowR%26T&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3Xp8WfHMtR-P0asPJG75TLL9dtfLprGroaaIpwaKpg9RV8XO_XJUb6ajM)That's essentially the problem with all modern supercars. The average driver can drive them fast without ever having learned to drive them well. Because the limits of the car are so beyond driver skill [or driver bravery] that they don't even know what it's like to control a car at the limit.
It was pretty fun to engage the launch thingee.I'm sure it's fun, but IMHO electronic launch control removes all the fun and skill of drag racing.
Route 12 is "famous" as being perhaps the most spectacular drive in the US. Utah is pretty spectacular in odd corners and nooks as well. We would fly into LV where rental cars are cheap and get a Mustang convertible and drive up into Utah for a week, great vacation.What power train are you talking about?
I don't like the Mustang's power train at all though.
What power train are you talking about?The rentals are the 4 cylinder turbo and that 10 speed automatic. The transmission tuning is horrible, really bad, and the engine makes putrid sounds.
The rentals are the 4 cylinder turbo and that 10 speed automatic. The transmission tuning is horrible, really bad, and the engine makes putrid sounds.I haven't driven it, but the thought of the 2.3-liter EcoBoost engine just doesn't ring my bell. Nor does the 10-speed auto. Is the power band on that engine so narrow that the transmission needs to constantly shift to keep the revs just right?
Maybe the one we got was worn out, I don't know, but it was unimpressive and the steering was numb. I wouldn't mind the V8 version I'm sure.
First trip I'd suggest driving a comfortable car, the distances are pretty long obviously, and then you could spot where you might want to Jeep later.First time we went to OR we went in the Jeep... 12 hr each way. At the time the wife was still leasing, so we had to watch her mileage closely while my Jeep was owned and paid off. It's certainly not the most comfortable vehicle for that trip, but then again... She had a BMW 328i at the time, so the Jeep was probably much more comfortable lol ;-)
Hmm... Zion is only about a 7 hr drive from here. Maybe that should be a little COVID getaway for my wife and I. While I've been to Utah a few times, it's always been the SLC area, and then only for business. And I'm pretty sure she's never been to Utah anywhere.
Then the question is whether to take the Jeep and plan on doing some off-roading, or just try to make it a scenic (from the roads) trip...
It is right down the road from me, and there are quite a few Californians that also had your idea. So many that they have had to close down the park a few times. And they don't close much around here.Good point. California's do tend to ruin it for everyone lol.
I believe that it is currently open, but I am not 100% on that. From the Bay Area, consider US Rt 50 across Nevada. Near the Utah border there will be a Highway that will guide you SE towards Zion (numbered 487 in Nevada, then 21 in Utah). Eureka or Ely, NV would be the best place to stop for a night, along that route.
Ohio State defensive tackle, Haskell Garrett was shot last night.Hope he's ok. The reports coming out of this have been weird
His injuries are not life threatening and not much is known at this time regarding the circumstances.
Now I want to go to Utah, again. I miss not traveling, a lot. I made a chunk of money this year and can't spend it.I haven't been to Utah in decades and didn't spend much time there
It is right down the road from me, and there are quite a few Californians that also had your idea. So many that they have had to close down the park a few times. And they don't close much around here.I rolled through 50 earlier this year. Stopped by Arches the day prior and wish I'd had longer to be there.
I believe that it is currently open, but I am not 100% on that. From the Bay Area, consider US Rt 50 across Nevada. Near the Utah border there will be a Highway that will guide you SE towards Zion (numbered 487 in Nevada, then 21 in Utah). Eureka or Ely, NV would be the best place to stop for a night, along that route.
Highway 395 is pretty interesting in California. Mono Lake, the ghost town of Bodie, Bridgeport, the Marine Corps winter training center,... All good stuff. And because it's on the eastern side of the Sierra, it's less traveled.It's an unheralded drive I think, and the lodging is cheap as a result. There is a long gap in roads traversing the Sierra south of Tioga Pass as you know. Much of the scenery is quite "scenic", and it's accessible from LV via Death Valley, which is worth seeing as well I think.
It's an unheralded drive I think, and the lodging is cheap as a result. There is a long gap in roads traversing the Sierra south of Tioga Pass as you know. Much of the scenery is quite "scenic", and it's accessible from LV via Death Valley, which is worth seeing as well I think.Odd, having mostly lived in CA since 2001, and I've only gone up that direction once, and then only as far as Mammoth. I was behind the wheel of a rented RV, so I didn't have much time to actually "sightsee" while driving...
Yeah, I drove the Sonoma Pass road once by the Marine Winter Training Center. They had a sign "26% grade ahead". I didn't believe it. I do now.Wino.
The road was just asphalt laid over rock, no grading.
Yeah, that's right of course, I knew something was amiss. Still super neat weird road.Everything you say is clearly lies. ;-)
Got a tee time at the little 9 hole part 29 course Saturday morning. And got my regripped putter and new lob wedge today.I bought a putter on Craig'slist this spring for $30
Get new grips ;D
I still wonder why some of my playing partner's putts will lip the cup ans swirl in, why all of mine swirl OUT!!!
I stay in tip top shape during golf season - end of March to beginning of November - by riding in the cart and curling 12 oz cans of Bud HeavyWhat is this golf season you speak of. Golf season is from October to May. Though I did go out the fourth of July weekend and melted.
and I swing plenty - core exercise and flexibility
Golf season is January-December down here.Same here.
Although you probably ought to switch to Bud Light instead of Bud Heavy in July and August, to make sure you stay hydrated.
Golf season is January-December down here.I sometimes go to light beer here in July and August after a couple Bud Heavies
Although you probably ought to switch to Bud Light instead of Bud Heavy in July and August, to make sure you stay hydrated.
It was 89°F with 58% RH and full sun at the pool today. The pool water felt very nice. That thermonuclear reactor in the sky can be hot.
Even at a distance.
Think of the energy it produces all going off into space without purpose ...
My son was talking about this from one of his Zoom meetings for 7th grade science, about the "Type #" civilizations. He didn't remember the name of it. I remembered the name Dyson and that one of the keys was using the entire output of your star.
Dyson Sphere?
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new grips, new putters, blades, mallets, center shafted, different faces, milled and inserts,You're over thinking this just hit the damn ball - stay out of the poison Ivy - get creative with the score card,but you already knew that
different techniques, claw grip, left hand low, look at the ball, look at the cup, look at your thumb, watch the putter go back, ball in different positions in your stance
different lines, firm and to the center, die it into the cup from the pro side
I've tried everything but long putters and swinging left handed
Oh darnit, just looked up more recent articles from 2018 and apparently, it's just space dust.Who knew the aliens do dust to
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2018/01/mystery-of--alien-megastructure--star-has-been-cracked/
speaking of Dyson....I had a panasonic vacuum cleaner for over 20 yrs.Better than anything around and light to
why can't the smart guys come up with a better vacuum cleaner?
Utah has concluded its fourth week of HS FB. It was the first week of regional play, at least around here. Glancing at the scores, all four of the games in this region were absolute blowouts.Crafty schedule makers just trying to set up big show downs later in the year
The Pine View Panthers stormed the Desert Hills Thunder 49-20.
The Snow Canyon Warriors scalped the Pine View Falcons 49-14.
The Cedar Red Men tamed the Crimson Cliffs Mustangs 37-7.
The Dixie Flyers crop dusted the Hurricane Tigers 35-6.
So the two closest games each had 29 point differentials.
Fun watching Game Day. They are trying so hard to dance around the politics of who is playing CFB and who is not.
We can have HS football, NBA, CFB, NHL, MMA, but not Midwest and West coast football. But it’s based on Science lol
Fun watching Game Day. They are trying so hard to dance around the politics of who is playing CFB and who is not.I'm sure that the Big 12 (-2) would gladly accept membership applications from Ohio State and Nebraska. :)
We can have HS football, NBA, CFB, NHL, MMA, but not Midwest and West coast football. But it’s based on Science lol
We heard you the first ten thousand times.But c'mon man, be honest with yourself.
But c'mon man, be honest with yourself.
If OSU was playing with 55 players and 7 of them had sprained limbs just to stay above the 53-player threshold and the Buckeyes started out 0-3, you tell me it'd be a good thing? It'd be worth it?
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I honestly need that AM to run or just have some outside time/errands.Yup,usually I'm getting alot tasks around the house done.I've always enjoyed listening to games on the radio.Only problem with that is I have to actually rake while listening,blowers much quicker but I enjoy the sunshine,outdoors,exercise and radio announcers usually dwarf the supposed TV talent - Herbie included
Where the B1G has gone wrong, IMO, is in the lack of transparency.That and appearing to be equivocal after the fact. They also could have waited a couple more weeks and perhaps laid out a provisional schedule before canceling, if they felt they needed to do so. Either way, if somebody wins the championship this season, it will be tainted.
Where the B1G has gone wrong, IMO, is in the lack of transparency.I dunno not showing up and letting others know why is pretty transparent
Yup,usually I'm get alot tasks around the house done.I've always enjoyed listening to games on the radio.Only problem with that is I have to actually rake while listening,blowers much quicker but I enjoy the sunshine,outdoors,exercise and radio announcers usually dwarf the supposed TV talent - Herbie includedI also like listening to the radio, but man has it become a huge pain in the butt - with all the rights squabbling it's impossible for me to tell what I can listen to and not if I'm streaming, and I don't even own a real radio anymore other than the one in my car.
Either way, if somebody wins the championship this season, it will be tainted.Ya,prolly better put the brakes on - at least for a season.Like ELA stated healthy college kids could handle any potential fall out - it's when they go home there could be problems
I also like listening to the radio, but man has it become a huge pain in the butt - with all the rights squabbling it's impossible for me to tell what I can listen to and not if I'm streaming, and I don't even own a real radio anymore other than the one in my car.HA!I've never streamed before but might with all the commercials,can't bring myself to pony up for what use to be free though.So just might listen to the meandering creek behind my house bubble
HA!I've never streamed before but might with all the commercials,can't bring myself to pony up for what use to be free though.So just might listen to the meandering creek behind my house bubbleThere's something earthy about radio theses days. It's very live and less streamlined than stuff online.
2020, man,...this is just crazy.Speaking of, in any other year, "murder hornets" would have been a big thing. I really don't think they're getting the fifteen minutes of fame that they are due.
Speaking of, in any other year, "murder hornets" would have been a big thing. I really don't think they're getting the fifteen minutes of fame that they are due.
Speaking of, in any other year, "murder hornets" would have been a big thing. I really don't think they're getting the fifteen minutes of fame that they are due.I recall the "killer bee" panic, the fire ant panic, and there is some lizard thing encroaching south Georgia where DHS advised residents to shoot on site (which knowing south Georgia as I do would be a gladly heeded piece of advice). Four foot lizard.
I think he is thinking about moving closer to work. The fruit company apparently is in some place called Cupertino.If he's been commuting down from South Beach to Cupertino, that's a mess of a commute. I mean, everything out that way is, but that's a super not great one.
Or something like that.
He really likes/liked the South Beach vibe, but it's dead now, and he was paying nearly $4000 a month for his efficiency apt.
The good news is the fruit company is doing really well, I have some stock in it, and now have 4x as many shares as I used to. ha.
He's a really really good young man, I admire him a lot for a lot of reasons. I did give him your contact info, obliged, but he's pretty independent. His mother raised him really well with often limited resources. She's an amazing woman really.
I used to send him a check every so often for "fun" and he told me not to do that any more. Both my kids said the same thing. I think when your kids tell you not to send more money it's a good sign.
If you ever need a car fixed, he can do it.
YouTube is wonderful. My dryer wasn't getting hot, and $31 at Amazon, spinning a screwdriver a bit, and now it's got a brand new heat element and is working beautifully.yep one thing Ive learned is that if you have a problem no matter what it is somebody has posted a solution on the internet
I shudder to think what that would have cost to hire a repairman.
except for global warmingwell I dont have that problem Ill leave that to others to solve
except for global warmingThese guys have a solution for that...
definitely not nearly as urgent as a broken dryerAt least I have control over a broken dryer.
If he's been commuting down from South Beach to Cupertino, that's a mess of a commute. I mean, everything out that way is, but that's a super not great one.He takes the fruit company bus.
And let's face it, when the world reopens, there will be more $4000 a month apartments if he gets antsy. He's not giving up a deal.
He takes the fruit company bus.Interesting. I don't know if I know anyone who has that sort of commute, but it always sounded different.
Interesting. I don't know if I know anyone who has that sort of commute, but it always sounded different.Several people I know do it, particularly to that face-ish rolodex company, the really big number company, the fruit company, and Genentech (nothing clever to say about it that many people who don't live here would pick up on). It gives extra work or web-surfing time. I hear it's a pretty pleasant commute.
Several people I know do it, particularly to that face-ish rolodex company, the really big number company, the fruit company, and Genentech (nothing clever to say about it that many people who don't live here would pick up on). It gives extra work or web-surfing time. I hear it's a pretty pleasant commute.The first mentions of "the fruit company" want over my head. That makes more sense.