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Title: Preseason Rankings
Post by: Cincydawg on July 25, 2017, 03:52:18 PM
Fortunately, these don't have any real outcome on anything any more that I can discern, but they are fun to peruse.  Usually, the top 3 end up in the top ten.  The top ten end up ranked.  The second ten are more of a crap shoot of course.  Who do you think is most over ranked and most under ranked here?

Comparing the Top 25 rankings
TEAM   SN   CBS   BR   ATH   FOX   ESPN
Alabama   1   2   1   1   1   3
USC   2   4   4   5   3   4
Ohio State   3   3   3   2   2   1
FSU      4   1   2   3   7   2
Clemson   5   7   5   8   5   7
PSU     6   5   12   4   4   5
Oklahoma   7   9   8   6   8   8
Wash   8   6   9   7   6   9
Michigan   9   13   10   10   16   14
Georgia   10   18   13   14   12   13
Auburn   11   10   11   13   9   10
Louisville   12   14   14   15   19   17
Wisconsin   13   15   15   9   13   11
LSU   14   16   6   12   20   12
Florida   15   21   22   16   17   21
OkSU   16   11   7   11   10   6
KSU     17   17   25   18   14   18
Stanford   18   8   17   19   11   16
Miami   19   25   18   25   18   15
WVU    20   24   19   24   15   20
Texas   21   22   23   20   NR   23
South Florida   22   12   16   22   22   19
Washington State   23   NR   NR   NR   21   25
Pittsburgh   24   NR   NR   NR   NR   NR
Tennessee   25   20   NR   17   NR   NR
Boise State   NR   19   24   NR   NR   24
Oregon   NR   23   20   21   NR   NR
Virginia Tech   NR   NR   NR   NR   NR   22
Notre Dame   NR   NR   NR   23   NR   NR
TCU   NR   NR   21   NR   NR   NR
Nebraska   NR   NR   NR   NR   23   NR
N.C. State   NR   NR   NR   NR   24   NR
Mississippi State   NR   NR   NR   NR   25   NR
Title: Re: Preseason Rankings
Post by: Anonymous Coward on July 25, 2017, 03:57:57 PM
Going by averages: Wisconsin is significantly underrated there. It feels like a ~#8 team. Michigan is slightly overrated. They feel like a ~#15 team.

I really don't know what to make of Florida. I could say either, so I'll just hold instead. As for FSU, if you nix the #7 that pulls their average down, I think the other pulls have them correctly.
Title: Re: Preseason Rankings
Post by: TyphonInc on July 25, 2017, 04:16:49 PM
I'll go Clemson as overrated. I think Watson was that special.

And give me Nebraska as underrated. They'll finish the season in the top 25. (Guess they aren't a helmet...)
Title: Re: Preseason Rankings
Post by: ELA on July 25, 2017, 04:28:37 PM
Wisconsin seems like the easy pick for underrated.  I think people are selling Colorado too quickly too.

I think Oklahoma is overrated there
Title: Re: Preseason Rankings
Post by: FearlessF on July 25, 2017, 06:33:23 PM
I'll go Clemson as overrated. I think Watson was that special.

And give me Nebraska as underrated. They'll finish the season in the top 25. (Guess they aren't a helmet...)

I'm not confident at all that Nebraska will finish in the top 25
Title: Re: Preseason Rankings
Post by: Cincydawg on July 25, 2017, 07:08:19 PM
I'd go with Auburn as over rated.  Obviously, Alabama could be the one here, or Ohio State, but I doubt it.  USC is plausible as is FSU.

I'm going with Oklahoma State as the surprise (somewhat) team than makes a NY6 bowl game.
Title: Re: Preseason Rankings
Post by: FearlessF on July 25, 2017, 07:55:28 PM
The Horns up there with a new coaching staff

and apparently South Florida gonna be a load?

why is South Florida listed below the Horns?
Title: Re: Preseason Rankings
Post by: CatsbyAZ on July 26, 2017, 07:33:23 AM
Florida State is overrated.

Miami, Wisconsin, and I'll even say Michigan are underrated.
Title: Re: Preseason Rankings
Post by: Cincydawg on July 26, 2017, 07:34:03 AM
Looks like USF would be above Texas.
Title: Re: Preseason Rankings
Post by: Temp430 on July 26, 2017, 08:06:17 AM
Attachment is average of Cincydawg's data.
Title: Re: Preseason Rankings
Post by: PSUinNC on July 26, 2017, 01:29:22 PM
I have a feeling VT turns things around in a big way in Fuentes' second year. 
Title: Re: Preseason Rankings
Post by: rolltidefan on July 26, 2017, 02:45:35 PM
Wisconsin seems like the easy pick for underrated.  I think people are selling Colorado too quickly too.

I think Oklahoma is overrated there

i'll go with clemson as well. i think they'll be a good team, but more in the 15-ish range than borderline top 5.

auburn will either be top 5-10 or unranked.
Title: Re: Preseason Rankings
Post by: TyphonInc on July 26, 2017, 09:27:12 PM
Attachment is average of Cincydawg's data.
I question this. TCU gets ranked in 1 poll and not ranked in the other 5, but because their one ranking is fairly high, they beat out several other teams who have multiple votes.
I think in the past I've used 2 numbers, if there is "others receiving votes" category  that the team fell into they got 26th, and if they didn't make that they got 30th. doing something like that would drop TCU below all those other teams who got multiple votes.