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Title: Do you like music?
Post by: Cincydawg on July 27, 2020, 10:32:52 AM
Musings for the day.  I think nearly everyone enjoys some sort of music.  Some people may be tone deaf and the music doesn't "resonate" with them, OK.

But, extending that, do you like "art"?  By art I mean paintings and sculptures.  Do you enjoy it enough to seek it out?

It seems to me a fair percentage of folks don't care that much for art.  And I'm one of them frankly.  There are exceptions, I like photography in some cases, but not so much a Grand Master painting.  Some sculpture is impressive to me, but I don't seek it out to view it.  I appreciate the talent it takes to paint or draw something, but it rarely "moves me".

Do you enjoy another thing of this ilk?  There is dance, for example.  And some of it is impressive, but do you seek out ballet to watch?  Or some other form of dance?  Do you like to dance when you are sober?

Nature is a form of art I think, I enjoy seeing natural stuff often as not.  Interestingly, there are few areas of pristine nature that are not "pretty" or appealing to me.  I suppose a completely ice covered flat landscape would not be, anything boring and endless, like Kansas.

Then there is literature.  I like a lot of that, I read a lot.  I'd call that art, in the general sense of its loftiest reachings.  There is a lot of course I've never read and never will and wouldn't enjoy, The Great Gatsby comes to mind, did read it sort of, didn't enjoy it.

James Joyce wrote stuff I didn't care for.

Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: FearlessF on July 27, 2020, 10:51:49 AM
I seek out music, but not much other "art"

I do pause and appreciate the beauty of nature on a golf course 

when I do find myself in a museum or building full of paintings and sculptures and photographs I enjoy it and appreciate the experience, but I'm not moved enough to seek it out again and again
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: utee94 on July 27, 2020, 11:45:12 AM
I love music, and theater, and musical theater.  I get to at least a dozen shows per year, and way more than that if we count listening to Hair Metal cover bands at local dive bars. ;)

I occasionally enjoy ballet, but outside of watching The Nutcracker Suite with my kids every year or two, it's probably been a decade since the last time I went to a proper ballet (it was at the Prague State Opera and was pretty amazing).

I'd say I enjoy "art" but less than the other forms of art mentioned above.  We might get to an exhibit at a gallery or museum once a year here in Austin, but when I travel it's something I generally make sure to do.  I really enjoyed visiting The Louvre in Paris, and the Art Institute in Chicago, and the Picasso Museum in Barcelona.  
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 27, 2020, 11:52:45 AM
I like the moods music can instill.  I don't care if it's good or not - I like it if it matches my mood or puts me in the mood I want to be in.

Visual art, especially painting, is interesting...humans sort of perfected realistic painting like 700 years ago...so what then?  Super-abstract art does nothing for me, although some of it can evoke a mood - but it seems obvious.  Idk, there is a talent to getting your vision onto a canvas.

I appreciate a good play.  I go to the theater a few times a year.  

I don't get professional dancing/dancers.  Or the musical person dancing in a group, all the same way.  There's only so many movements and combinations you can do....but at the same time, I don't have to "get" it.  It's just not for me.

I think the arts are as important as reading/math for some people.  Of course, you can learn to read and do numeric operations as well as the arts - you don't have to pick.
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 27, 2020, 11:53:40 AM
I like music. Almost all kinds.

I'm not into anything that promotes violence or abuse of women, that's for sure.

As for arts... Renaissance art is fascinating to me. Probably why I like Florence as much as I go. Very much enjoyed the Gaudi stuff in Barcelona. Art museums as a whole? Nah. 

Give me Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry all day long.
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: utee94 on July 27, 2020, 12:00:13 PM
I like music. Almost all kinds.

I'm not into anything that promotes violence or abuse of women, that's for sure.

As for arts... Renaissance art is fascinating to me. Probably why I like Florence as much as I go. Very much enjoyed the Gaudi stuff in Barcelona. Art museums as a whole? Nah.

Give me Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry all day long.
I do love the Museum of Science and Industry.  Went there when I did my summer program at Northwestern back in the day.
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on July 27, 2020, 12:13:22 PM
I like music as long as I selected it, and I am listening to it voluntarily. 

There is nothing worse than someone who thinks it is cool to blast their music in public without earphones. The guy at the beach or the campground or the pool or the golf course with the industrial speaker on wheels. The coworker that thinks it is cool to bring in a boombox instead of using headphones. The person who walks around the store with "music" playing out of the tiny speaker on their phone instead of using headphones. 

These are not courteous people.  
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: Cincydawg on July 27, 2020, 12:16:26 PM
Do you know anyone who does not like any form of music at all?

We here have the expected mixture of appreciations for visual arts, dance, theater, whatever, but we all like music, it seems.

Some things in science are artistic to me, but I'm weird.

Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on July 27, 2020, 12:24:02 PM
My father doesn't care much for any type of music at all. 

He might listen to a classical piece once or twice a year, and likes a few old western ballads for nostalgia purposes, but that is about the extent of it. He doesn't like anything that was ever modern or popular at any point, during his lifetime. 
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: utee94 on July 27, 2020, 12:27:12 PM
Do you know anyone who does not like any form of music at all?

We here have the expected mixture of appreciations for visual arts, dance, theater, whatever, but we all like music, it seems.

Some things in science are artistic to me, but I'm weird.


I can't think of anyone I know that flat-out doesn't like music of any kind.  That would be weird.  I'm pretty sure I could never trust a person like that...
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: MichiFan87 on July 27, 2020, 09:49:37 PM
I appreciate most genres of instrumental music, especially more improvisational genres, be it Jazz, Spanish Guitar, Indian Ragas, or something else. Vocals are just distracting to me.

I don't really get into artistic stuff otherwise. Nothing against it, of course, but I have other interests.
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 27, 2020, 11:53:40 PM
I do have to laugh at the name of the thread....as people actually use it for an opener when chi-chatting.  You might as well ask how breathing is going for them.
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: MarqHusker on July 28, 2020, 01:02:03 AM
its really funny if you ask it as Peter Graves' Captain Oveur voice.

Love music, endless supply of art, and discussion.  Its something where those which are most influential seem so obvious or not so appreciated by people generations later for a variety of reasons in my opinion.   I think we talked about this here recently when talking about influence of Michael Jackson, Ramones, Nirvana, others.
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2020, 05:54:24 AM
I got a questionnaire from our symphony a while back asking what they might do to improve attendance (which is decent I suppose, it's usually 80-90% full).  I know a lot of folks in the 'burbs just don't want to come "downtown", it can be a 30-40 mile drive, and a lot don't think they like classical music.

But I think nearly every human likes some form of music.  The other arts are hit and miss.
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: Mdot21 on July 28, 2020, 10:33:53 AM
You have to be some kind of freak not to like music lol.

I love all kinds of music. Just has to be good. You just know when something is good. And the best music is the music that can make you feel something.

I’m not a big fan of rap, but I love the early Eminem stuff. His ability to play with words was astounding. He’s mostly terrible now, he looks like a butch lesbian or trans female to male with that weird beard and just shouts everything. But then again he’s almost 50 and rap is a young mans game.
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2020, 11:59:34 AM
I couldn't hmmm or name a song that has come out since 1990, probably 1980.

I just quit listening to "pop" of any kind, I guess you do that when you get old.  Fortunately the wife likes the same kinds of music as I do, including country, jazz, R&B, rock, Big Band, and of course classical.  I don't listen as much as I once did though, not sure why.
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: CWSooner on July 28, 2020, 07:27:12 PM
I couldn't hmmm or name a song that has come out since 1990, probably 1980.

I just quit listening to "pop" of any kind, I guess you do that when you get old.  Fortunately the wife likes the same kinds of music as I do, including country, jazz, R&B, rock, Big Band, and of course classical.  I don't listen as much as I once did though, not sure why.
I stopped following what the latest thing was when I went into the Army in 1979. Didn't have either the time or the inclination to listen to it, and it had gotten so bad in the late '70s--Disco, anyone?--that I had gotten out of the habit.
I got into a little bit of country--Randy Travis, Dottie West, The Judds, et. al.--in the '80s.  "Got into" means I bought a couple of CDs of each.
I can recall Eric Clapton of the '90s.  Ten Summoner's Tales was the CD, I think.  Hootie and the Blowfish.  And Big Band music.
Now it's Big Band, jazz, classical, some '50s and '60s. I think Garth Brooks cured me of ever again being interested in current C&W.
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: Cincydawg on July 29, 2020, 09:49:31 AM
I guess I'm fairly typical of an American male.  I certainly enjoy music, as we all note, and am lukewarm to visual arts, dance, theater is OK, ...

I like scenery outdoors.

Huh, I wonder if appreciation of hte visual arts takes more training or investment to understand by that painting of a red square is so moving.
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 29, 2020, 10:32:59 AM
I think, on the average, people tend to stop keeping up with new music around the age of 32.  
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: ELA on July 29, 2020, 10:42:05 AM
I'm fine with music.  I'm just too busy/tired to find new music I like, and I'm sort of sick of the music I already know I like, and don't like enough new mainstream music that's served up to me.  There's generally a song or two out there I like.

I love live music in small venues, of all kinds, but hate large concerts.  I think that last concert I went to was Queen with Adam Lambert back in maybe 2015?

We have season tickets to a theater here so we see about 5 musicals a year.  Generally I'm familiar with 1 or 2 of them, and of the 3 or so I'm not, one is generally a pleasant surprise and 2 are forgettable.
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on July 30, 2020, 10:36:25 PM

Which one of you was the one that only listened to hair metal? 

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Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: MarqHusker on July 31, 2020, 12:52:27 AM
I think, on the average, people tend to stop keeping up with new music around the age of 32. 
I think you're a little high,  if you're talking about mainstream new music.
I do listen to a lot of new music but it tends to be 'college radio' / indie centric.  Some of it is outstanding, some of it awful.  What qualifies as rock anymore is hard to define.  The genres have become quite blurred in many ways. Still lots of imitation and copy cat acts thats always been the case. Having said that, it is very tough to find many  bands w conventional arrangements with much mainstream appeal.  They tend to be older.  Times change, thats fine, but the pressure to tour tour tour as nobody buys an album anymore has really put that genre, to the extent it exists anymore into a niche.

When i see some of these indie bands the crowds at these non festival venues leans older.  30-49.  Show up at a Festival and its younger, but that's more of a social function imo, then whos interested in the band or performer on stage.  I'm 44, I don't want to stand out in a field with young punks with their phones out constantly taking pics and recording stupid stuff.  Ill happily see that same band in a dark hole in the wall bar in a city for 90 minutes though.

I remember seeing War on Drugs a few years ago and maybe 10% of the crowd was under 30.  Jason Isbell, same thing.  Conversely the Metallica show I saw last year had a bunch of youngsters, the kids of the parents that dragged them to see them.  ;)
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: Cincydawg on July 31, 2020, 08:54:55 AM
I think, on the average, people tend to stop keeping up with new music around the age of 32. 
I think for many of us, it was when kids came along, which can be around that age of course.  I recall in high school is was "necessary" to have a favorite group, and if you say someone prosaic like "The Beatles", you weren't cool, and being cool was, well, cooler than not being cool.

"We" were so consumed with being cool, with fitting in, with conforming to noncomformity, being an athelete and dating that cheerleader ....
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: MaximumSam on July 31, 2020, 09:02:55 AM
Time comes back around - my oldest daughter is all about new music but has a pretty healthy like of classic rock and regularly wears Beatles, Cash, and Stones tshirts.  She even kind of likes bluegrass.  Can't get her into most classic country though.
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: Entropy on July 31, 2020, 09:40:20 AM
I listen to rock/metal, but search out classical/opera and theater for live performances.  Regarding art, we collect and I enjoy going to museums when we travel.  
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 31, 2020, 09:54:30 AM

What qualifies as rock anymore is hard to define.  The genres have become quite blurred in many ways.
Yep. Modern rock is basically alt-rock. Much of what is called "alternative" these days is half-pop or half-electronic. Modern country is basically rock with a twang or pop with a twang. 

My wife likes to listen to Y2Kountry on SiriusXM and I'm always perplexed by the duet song by Kid Rock and Cheryl Crow, "Picture", showing up on that station. The song isn't country, and neither artist is in any way considered country. 

Darius Rucker went from being the frontman for Hootie and the Blowfish to being a country artist, and barely anything in his music changed.

Musical genres are more confusing than modern genders.
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on July 31, 2020, 11:44:21 AM
Cheryl Crow played my old HS on the fourth of July a few years back. Joan Jett, the year before that. 

Evidently they were pretty good at enticing washed up rock divas to be the opening act for their fireworks show. 
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: Entropy on July 31, 2020, 12:04:35 PM
Yep. Modern rock is basically alt-rock. Much of what is called "alternative" these days is half-pop or half-electronic. Modern country is basically rock with a twang or pop with a twang.

My wife likes to listen to Y2Kountry on SiriusXM and I'm always perplexed by the duet song by Kid Rock and Cheryl Crow, "Picture", showing up on that station. The song isn't country, and neither artist is in any way considered country.

Darius Rucker went from being the frontman for Hootie and the Blowfish to being a country artist, and barely anything in his music changed.

Musical genres are more confusing than modern genders.
agree with all these points and analogies...  In some regards, I think it is great one struggles to label a band or song.   However, it does make it confusing when discussing likes/dislikes.

Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: Entropy on July 31, 2020, 12:05:04 PM
Which one of you was the one that only listened to hair metal?

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I think it was Utee.... or that's the rumor I'm starting...
Title: Re: Do you like music?
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 31, 2020, 12:24:31 PM
I still don't "get" Twenty One Pilots. They're weird.