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Title: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #2
Post by: ELA on July 20, 2020, 03:19:25 PM

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Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #2
Post by: MrNubbz on July 20, 2020, 03:20:40 PM
7.6
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #2
Post by: bayareabadger on July 20, 2020, 03:24:29 PM
Monte Ball's career 
391 yards, 4 TDs
996, 18 TDs, 6.1
1,923, 33 TDs, 6.3 (306 more yards, 6 TDs receiving)
1,830, 22, 5.1

And I very quickly voted for another guy. What a decade. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #2
Post by: ELA on July 20, 2020, 03:36:30 PM
I'm living solo on Ball Island it would appear
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #2
Post by: FearlessF on July 20, 2020, 04:23:18 PM
Ball was a great back, but Gordon
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #2
Post by: bayareabadger on July 20, 2020, 05:35:13 PM
Quote from: ELA on July 20, 2020, 03:36:30 PM
I'm living solo on Ball Island it would appear
Someone joined you! And two picks for White, the hipster option. 

Ball was super, no doubt. I do feel a little bad how he had to turn into a hammer at the end of his career. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #2
Post by: SFBadger96 on July 21, 2020, 03:01:15 PM
Ball and White were great. But it's got to be Gordon. I don't think the order is especially debatable: Taylor, Gordon, Ball, White. Clement is a distant fifth.
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #2
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 21, 2020, 03:18:25 PM
Quote from: SFBadger96 on July 21, 2020, 03:01:15 PM
Ball and White were great. But it's got to be Gordon. I don't think the order is especially debatable: Taylor, Gordon, Ball, White. Clement is a distant fifth.
Nailed it.
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #2
Post by: FearlessF on July 21, 2020, 03:20:25 PM
I thought White was a significant drop off from Ball
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #2
Post by: ELA on July 21, 2020, 03:21:05 PM
I just know I feared Ball more as an opponent. Yes, Gordon was much more likely to bust off a 70-yard touchdown run, but the thought of holding Ball to under 10 carries on three tries seemed nearly impossible.  He just sucked out the soul of your defense, Even if his yards per carry didn't quite match up
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #2
Post by: ELA on July 21, 2020, 03:21:58 PM
Quote from: FearlessF on July 21, 2020, 03:20:25 PM
I thought White was a significant drop off from Ball
Same, I think it's three tiers.  Taylor-Ball/Gordon-White/Clement
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #2
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 21, 2020, 03:25:04 PM
Quote from: FearlessF on July 21, 2020, 03:20:25 PM
I thought White was a significant drop off from Ball
Nah. White was an excellent back in his own right. He did a lot of things.
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #2
Post by: bayareabadger on July 21, 2020, 04:20:36 PM
Quote from: ELA on July 21, 2020, 03:21:05 PM
I just know I feared Ball more as an opponent. Yes, Gordon was much more likely to bust off a 70-yard touchdown run, but the thought of holding Ball to under 10 carries on three tries seemed nearly impossible.  He just sucked out the soul of your defense, Even if his yards per carry didn't quite match up
He wasn’t always that. Late in his career he was a decent hammer, but lost a bit of luster. 

That might be more of an insider perspective. Granted, I don’t have the advanced stats on efficiency for Ball that last year. Gordon was good not unreal as a junior, but was hilariously explosive.
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #2
Post by: bayareabadger on July 21, 2020, 04:22:52 PM
Quote from: FearlessF on July 21, 2020, 03:20:25 PM
I thought White was a significant drop off from Ball
It’s a hard read because White was always used for speed to contrast with a hammer, until his last year. 

When he was the primary tailback, he went for 1444 at 6.5 a carry and 13 TDs. I think there was a mild drop off, but not a massive one. 

Funny he’s far and away the best in the pros. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #2
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 21, 2020, 04:37:42 PM
Quote from: bayareabadger on July 21, 2020, 04:20:36 PM
He wasn’t always that. Late in his career he was a decent hammer, but lost a bit of luster.

That might be more of an insider perspective. Granted, I don’t have the advanced stats on efficiency for Ball that last year. Gordon was good not unreal as a junior, but was hilariously explosive.
The OL was kinda messy that season, starting with Markuson (fired after game 3) and his finesse crap, and then having to go back to the Bostad way, with Bart Miller.
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #2
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 21, 2020, 04:58:00 PM
Quote from: bayareabadger on July 21, 2020, 04:22:52 PM
Funny he’s far and away the best in the pros.
I wouldn't even say White's the best running back in the pros. Certainly not the best runner. He's a versatile player, but he's never been a 3-down back at the NFL level. 

I'd venture to say that Gordon is the best in the pros, even though fantasy football managers call him a "plodder". He's just been in a crappy offensive system behind a mediocre o-line. But as the Chargers started to incorporate their backs more in the pass game (using Ekeler at first but then adding in Gordon) he showed he's no slouch there. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #2
Post by: FearlessF on July 21, 2020, 05:01:11 PM
agreed

Brady liked to toss short passes to White, but I never thought of him as an every down NFL back
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #2
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 21, 2020, 05:35:29 PM
On a better team, Gordon would be amazing.