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Title: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: ELA on July 19, 2020, 02:49:48 PM

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Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: ELA on July 19, 2020, 02:50:08 PM
Bucky should loan some of these out
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: bayareabadger on July 19, 2020, 03:06:04 PM
A Heisman finalist who ranks in the top 20 of all time rushers probably misses the cut.

Edit: Clement also had a weird career.
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 19, 2020, 03:55:52 PM
A Heisman finalist who ranks in the top 20 of all time rushers probably misses the cut.

Edit: Clement also had a weird career.
Imagine if Gordon and Taylor played 4 seasons. Gordon was not the primary back, until his last season. Kid was amazing.

I went with Taylor here.
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: bayareabadger on July 19, 2020, 04:50:03 PM
My order, and probably most’s would be 
Taylor
Gordon
Ball 
White
Clement


Clement was his best as a sophomore, had some higher usage days that I remembered when he did play as a junior, and was just a grinder/hammer as a senior. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: ELA on July 19, 2020, 04:53:06 PM
I'd go


Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: MrNubbz on July 19, 2020, 05:15:53 PM
Went Gordon won the Doak Walker,almost 5,000 career yds and 7.6 YPC
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: bayareabadger on July 19, 2020, 06:04:11 PM
Went Gordon won the Doak Walker,almost 5,000 career yds and 7.6 YPC
It's unreal that Taylor won two Doaks, ran for 6,174 and was 0.9 YPC less. 

Shoot, when he was getting significant carries, Melvin was 7.8 and 7.5.

Taylor went 6.6, 7.1, 6.3. Just a fun decade. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on July 19, 2020, 06:12:37 PM

Have the Badgers ever had a dud starting at RB? 

Who is Wisconsin's Lydell Ross? 
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: bayareabadger on July 19, 2020, 07:01:05 PM
Have the Badgers ever had a dud starting at RB?

Who is Wisconsin's Lydell Ross?
Good question. 

I assume we'll set aside someone that people sort of got tired of. Like, PJ Hill kind of lost his luster that last year, but he still ran for 1,161 yards at 5.1 a carry. We'll also set aside guys that got easily jumped. Taylor was behind two somewhat experienced backs right before his first year, a Pitt transfer and a guy who ran for 450 yards the year prior, but then he went for 1,900. So we'll go with situations where they just didn't have a great guy at the top. 

2015: Starter (Clement) had something happen, either concussion or injury. Theoretical backup Taiwan Deal wasn't great, so third-down back Dare Ogunbowale ends up running for 800 so-so yards. The former walk-on was in over his head, and got back to being a nice third-down back the next year. 

2003: Started Anthony Davis showed wear from 591 carries his first two years. He was hurt. His backups were so-so, with Dwayne Smith getting 850 and Booker Stanley getting 520 at under 4 a carry. Davis was a little healthier the next year, getting 973 at 4.8 a carry, with Stanley at 115 carries at 3 yards per. 

Next worst top back since 1993 was Carl McCullough, who barely got 1,000 at 4.4 carry with three TDs. His backup was Aaron Stecker, a little-used third-down guy, who got squeezed out by Ron Dayne, blew up at Western Illinois and carved out 10 years as an end of the roster NFL guy. 

Clement's last year was a little below standard, but he did get 300 carries and 1,375 yards
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: MaximumSam on July 19, 2020, 07:21:00 PM
Which group is the strongest? Have to think this one is a contender. Buckeyes DE and CB have to be up there. Who else?
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: bayareabadger on July 19, 2020, 08:45:30 PM
Which group is the strongest? Have to think this one is a contender. Buckeyes DE and CB have to be up there. Who else?
OSU QBs. UW OL everywhere. MSU DB or OL? UW LBs? Michigan CBs?
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: MaximumSam on July 19, 2020, 09:39:33 PM
OSU QBs. UW OL everywhere. MSU DB or OL? UW LBs? Michigan CBs?
All worthy choices. OSU corner might be the pick. They've had seven first round corners drafted this decade
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: bayareabadger on July 19, 2020, 10:10:19 PM
All worthy choices. OSU corner might be the pick. They've had seven first round corners drafted this decade
That ... that is a lot
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: Hawkinole on July 19, 2020, 11:30:30 PM
RB U.
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 20, 2020, 12:16:12 AM
All you Barry Sanders disciples better be voting for Gordon here...
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: MrNubbz on July 20, 2020, 07:34:25 AM
It's unreal that Taylor won two Doaks, ran for 6,174 and was 0.9 YPC less.

Shoot, when he was getting significant carries, Melvin was 7.8 and 7.5.

Taylor went 6.6, 7.1, 6.3. Just a fun decade.
Thanx I stopped at 7.6 YPC for Melvin,knew Taylor's numbers were good escaped me he won the Doak in '18.But figured avoid group think here and 7.6 still > 6.7
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: MrNubbz on July 20, 2020, 07:35:14 AM
RB U.
Maybe O-Line U
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: Entropy on July 20, 2020, 09:16:45 AM
I went with Taylor as he would be the RB I'd least want to face as a DC
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 20, 2020, 09:23:31 AM
I went with Taylor as he would be the RB I'd least want to face as a DC
Pelini says "WTF?"
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 20, 2020, 09:25:58 AM
Have the Badgers ever had a dud starting at RB?

Who is Wisconsin's Lydell Ross?
Carl McCullough. He was highly rated and didn't live up to it. One could also make an argument for John Clay, but he was pretty productive. Not 5* productive, but still pretty good.
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: bayareabadger on July 20, 2020, 09:58:29 AM
All you Barry Sanders disciples better be voting for Gordon here...
Nah.

Not because I was a Barry Sanders disciple but because I don't find the comparison all that apt.
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: bayareabadger on July 20, 2020, 10:05:08 AM
Carl McCullough. He was highly rated and didn't live up to it. One could also make an argument for John Clay, but he was pretty productive. Not 5* productive, but still pretty good.
It's very Wisconsin that the black sheep still had 1,200 yards from scrimmage. Granted he was behind two beasts as a freshman and eventually lapped by Dayne

The John Clay thing, that's a hard sell. Here's his run:
Backup who got 880 yards and 9 TDs
BTOPOY with 1,500 and 18 TDs 
In his first eight mostly healthy games, got 887 yards and 13 TDs, played bits of three more to get to 1,000 around and ankle and knee

His BTPOY was probably one of the weaker ones, but Clay, kinda like PJ Hill, is a lesson in timing. Flip those last two years, and it feels a whole lot better (Hill was most productive at the start, but his low ceiling left some tired by the end). 
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 20, 2020, 10:17:09 AM
Went with Gordon for his lack of fumblitis. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: Mdot21 on July 20, 2020, 10:39:47 AM
Taylor, but Gordon was right on his heels.
Title: Re: Wisconsin All-Decade Team - Running Back #1
Post by: FearlessF on July 20, 2020, 12:27:29 PM
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