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Title: Big Ten All-Decade Teams
Post by: ELA on June 11, 2020, 04:59:01 PM
Was hoping to get these kicked off earlier, but they are starting Monday.

Can't believe it's been 10 years.

Only rules, had to play two seasons in the 2010-2019 period, and had to play at least one season in the Big Ten.
Title: Re: Big Ten All-Decade Teams
Post by: bayareabadger on June 11, 2020, 05:35:44 PM
One question and one comment:

Question: When we say play, do we mean just on a roster or having more than a little effect? Like Dwayne Haskins spent three years on campus, but only played one and a quarter against Michigan. Is he one that counts?

Comment: JT Barrett for QB, just to create Chaos. (No, I won't actually vote for him)
Title: Re: Big Ten All-Decade Teams
Post by: ELA on June 11, 2020, 08:33:23 PM
One question and one comment:

Question: When we say play, do we mean just on a roster or having more than a little effect? Like Dwayne Haskins spent three years on campus, but only played one and a quarter against Michigan. Is he one that counts?

Comment: JT Barrett for QB, just to create Chaos. (No, I won't actually vote for him)
Just on the roster
Title: Re: Big Ten All-Decade Teams
Post by: Mdot21 on June 12, 2020, 12:54:45 AM
Was hoping to get these kicked off earlier, but they are starting Monday.

Can't believe it's been 10 years.

Only rules, had to play two seasons in the 2010-2019 period, and had to play at least one season in the Big Ten.
if it's an All-B1G team, I think they should've played at least 2 years in the B1G.
Title: Re: Big Ten All-Decade Teams
Post by: rolltidefan on June 12, 2020, 10:17:53 AM
why 2 years?

if a player played in the decade they should count. burrow, for example, had he played this season (2020) should be in running for the 20's decade all sec even though he only played 1 season in 20's.
Title: Re: Big Ten All-Decade Teams
Post by: ELA on June 12, 2020, 11:03:12 AM
if it's an All-B1G team, I think they should've played at least 2 years in the B1G.
My thought was simply not to eliminate Nebraska's 2011 seniors; or Maryland or Rutgers' 2014 seniors, but I hadn't considered the transfer issue.  Like Justin Fields played two years in the decade, but only one in the Big Ten
Title: Re: Big Ten All-Decade Teams
Post by: FearlessF on June 12, 2020, 11:45:09 AM
2011 was the Husker's most talented Big Ten team, but I don't think any players are going to be considered all-decade

Lavonte David the Big Ten Linebacker of the year would be possibly considered

Abdullah was a frosh, Burkhead was solid, not great, Maher was a good kicker
Title: Re: Big Ten All-Decade Teams
Post by: Big Beef Tacosupreme on June 12, 2020, 12:13:37 PM
For Penn State I'd probably have to go with Saquon Barkley (RB), Allen Robinson (WR), Trace McSorely (QB), Carl Nassib (DL), Stefen Wisniewski (OL)

Edit:  Sean Lee (LB)
Title: Re: Big Ten All-Decade Teams
Post by: ELA on June 12, 2020, 12:24:58 PM
Don't worry, voting will start Monday
Title: Re: Big Ten All-Decade Teams
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 12, 2020, 12:29:09 PM
So I know for the preseason and postseason ones you use official Big Ten lists, right?

How do you select the nominees for this?
Title: Re: Big Ten All-Decade Teams
Post by: bayareabadger on June 12, 2020, 02:18:27 PM
My thought was simply not to eliminate Nebraska's 2011 seniors; or Maryland or Rutgers' 2014 seniors, but I hadn't considered the transfer issue.  Like Justin Fields played two years in the decade, but only one in the Big Ten
Russell Wilson was one I was thinking of. He's in the camp with those OSU QBs.

Interestingly, the three QBs with the highest highs of the decade only have one awesome starting season (to date). The next highest rated QB for a season from the decade was Barrett (as a freshman), who's pros and cons we've dissected to death. Then you have McSorley, who peaked as a sophomore, but also played a big role in bringing back a program. 
Title: Re: Big Ten All-Decade Teams
Post by: FearlessF on June 12, 2020, 02:49:59 PM
so, is the all-decade team a greatest season award or a greatest career award?

one season or 3, 4, or 5 seasons?
Title: Re: Big Ten All-Decade Teams
Post by: ELA on June 12, 2020, 04:20:42 PM
so, is the all-decade team a greatest season award or a greatest career award?

one season or 3, 4, or 5 seasons?
Best NFL career
Title: Re: Big Ten All-Decade Teams
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 12, 2020, 10:25:27 PM
:96:  How dare you.


I assume "All-Decade" means different things to different people.

For me, I think volume matters - the guy who was good for 3 years > the guy who had 1 great season


But I also think the best individual seasons during a decade makes sense, too.  But either way, consistency is probably best.
Title: Re: Big Ten All-Decade Teams
Post by: bayareabadger on June 12, 2020, 11:21:01 PM
:96:  How dare you.


I assume "All-Decade" means different things to different people.

For me, I think volume matters - the guy who was good for 3 years > the guy who had 1 great season


But I also think the best individual seasons during a decade makes sense, too.  But either way, consistency is probably best.
This is weird for the QBs in this setup because you have a situation where the three best QB seasons are all one-year starters thus far. Your most accomplished career is Barrett, a player who has a healthy set of detractors in his own fanbase. Up next would be McSorley, who got notably worse in terms of passing stats each of his final two years.

Then you have compilers like Thorson, Blough and Armstrong. You also have Cook, who led three good teams and was better than his stats, but also dipped a little as a senior. 

QBs are weird because they rarely maintain super high levels. If they start notably early, its often because they're at programs without a ton of support. If they're that good, they often go pro.

RB is quirkier because of the grip one school has on it. OSU guys seemed to never be in prominent roles for as long. Arguably the most talented back was behind a bad line and didn't get all the carries. Kevin Coleman only came into his own late. 

OL should be interesting. I started dabbling in defense, but realized UW is gonna have a lot of "pretty good, not that top level" guys. But I'm getting ahead of myself.