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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: medinabuckeye1 on November 07, 2017, 09:59:21 AM

Title: Bowl eligibility after week 10
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on November 07, 2017, 09:59:21 AM
Already eligible:
Need two more wins:
Need to win out:

Already ineligible:

There is a decent chance that the Oaken Bucket game in West Lafayette could be for bowl eligibility.  

Additionally, an indeterminate number of 5-7 teams may end up bowling.  
Title: Re: Bowl eligibility after week 10
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 07, 2017, 10:52:09 AM
What are the requirements for achieving Bowl eligibility at 5-7?

Are any Big Ten schools in danger of falling short of them?
Title: Re: Bowl eligibility after week 10
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on November 08, 2017, 02:22:26 PM
What are the requirements for achieving Bowl eligibility at 5-7?

Are any Big Ten schools in danger of falling short of them?
I think there are some sort of APR guidelines or APR is how they select which 5-7 teams get priority for bowl selection...
I really don't understand the APR system, but somehow it seems like schools which promote 1-and-done players in basketball and have players leaving early without graduating for the NFL, seem to have transfers every season to make room for new hotshot players, and don't exactly have great academic reputations (but carry helmet cachet) seem to do really well in APR. Which is... Counterintuitive... To say the least. 
Title: Re: Bowl eligibility after week 10
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on November 08, 2017, 02:28:24 PM
I think there are some sort of APR guidelines or APR is how they select which 5-7 teams get priority for bowl selection...
I really don't understand the APR system, but somehow it seems like schools which promote 1-and-done players in basketball and have players leaving early without graduating for the NFL, seem to have transfers every season to make room for new hotshot players, and don't exactly have great academic reputations (but carry helmet cachet) seem to do really well in APR. Which is... Counterintuitive... To say the least.
I know part of it is graduation rates but I don't know how players who leave early for the NFL/NBA factor into that.  Also, I'm not sure if the NBA thing is an issue at all because I don't know if they keep a separate "football APR".  
The thing about graduation rates that may make that less counter-intuitive is that lower-quality schools may find it easier to graduate athletes.  
As a side note, I think the focus on graduation rates is ridiculous.  They do this with High Schools as well and all it does it to encourage schools to graduate "students" who shouldn't have diplomas or degrees.  It strongly encourages cheating of the type we saw recently at UNC and a similar HS level scandal in Atlanta a few years ago.  
Title: Re: Bowl eligibility after week 10
Post by: bayareabadger on November 08, 2017, 03:21:14 PM
I think there are some sort of APR guidelines or APR is how they select which 5-7 teams get priority for bowl selection...
I really don't understand the APR system, but somehow it seems like schools which promote 1-and-done players in basketball and have players leaving early without graduating for the NFL, seem to have transfers every season to make room for new hotshot players, and don't exactly have great academic reputations (but carry helmet cachet) seem to do really well in APR. Which is... Counterintuitive... To say the least.

APR measures progress, so it would punish someone only taking 100-level classes and not working toward a degree. 
GSR is a six-year grad rate, but factoring out kids who leave in good standing. (GSR has been hard on UW basketball)
Title: Re: Bowl eligibility after week 10
Post by: LittlePig on November 09, 2017, 10:07:45 AM
Bowl projections are hard for the Big Ten,  but I will try anyway

CFP bowl =  13-0 wisconsin
Cotton bowl = 10-3 MSU
Citris bowl = 10-2 PSU
Outback bowl = 9-3 OSU
Holiday Bowl = 9-3 NW
Music City = 8-4 Iowa
Pinstripe = 8-4 Michigan
Foster Farms = 6-6 indiania