I saw a bar fight set off over a Solich dispute.
obviously there are plenty of folks that were not/are not happy with the Riley choice
but, the naysaying was worse for Billy C. and Pelini, probably Frankie
Riley does everything off the field very well. That buys him more slack than Pelini and Billy C. for sure
however blow out losses such as Ohio St and Iowa last season will not be tolerated - hence the new D coordinator.
...wow, to be a fly on the wall. Do you remember much about the lead-up/discussion?
I was most disgusted (thus far) with the loss at Illinois, the clock mgmt was abysmal, and probably the most embarrassing loss in my lifetime, the loss at Purdue, indeed the lowest moment for Nebraska since a loss to Hawaii in the 1950s. That game trumped any blowout loss to much superior opponents IMO.
I wasn't thrilled with the Riley hire either. You may recall I was all 'this is WCO 2.0' which I still think we are headed towards, which is such a 80s/90s nfl style that doesn't work in college, heck it doesn't really work anymore on Sundays.
I was most disgusted (thus far) with the loss at Illinois, the clock mgmt was abysmal, and probably the most embarrassing loss in my lifetime, the loss at Purdue, indeed the lowest moment for Nebraska since a loss to Hawaii in the 1950s. That game trumped any blowout loss to much superior opponents IMO.
Having said that, I was much more negative during the entirety of Billy C, I stopped going to games, I still haven't sent a nickel to the school since they canned Solich.
obviously there are plenty of folks that were not/are not happy with the Riley choice
but, the naysaying was worse for Billy C. and Pelini, probably Frankie
Riley does everything off the field very well. That buys him more slack than Pelini and Billy C. for sure
however blow out losses such as Ohio St and Iowa last season will not be tolerated - hence the new D coordinator.
For as much as Pelini won (66-27), and yet frustrated the fan base, does anybody wish they'd just given him another year while the AD spent the extra time setting up a better hire than Riley? If we're already talking about Riley on the hot seat I would've rather had one more year of fun with the ups & downs of Bo. I say that not as a Nebraska fan but as a general college football fan who knew an otherwise predictable weekend of college football could be spiced up by tuning into the Nebraska game. Didn't matter against who - Mich St '12, McNeese '14, Wyoming '13, Michigan '13, Northwestern '14, Wisconsin '12, on and on.
Tom Osborne (http://collegefootball.ap.org/huskermax/article/coaching-great-tom-osborne-giving-his-nebraska-skybox) is giving up his free North Stadium skybox (http://journalstar.com/sports/huskers/football/tom-osborne-gives-up-skybox-in-north-stadium/article_350f758d-7365-5f6b-b6a2-bc173ec892ec.html) so that the Athletic Department can benefit (https://www.landof10.com/nebraska/nebraska-legend-tom-osborne-giving-skybox-memorial-stadium) from it financially (http://www.omaha.com/huskers/football/tom-osborne-gives-up-memorial-stadium-skybox-returning-it-for/article_f9cb84f6-7317-11e7-8b4c-c3a7c1812c58.html)
"I don't want anyone to read anything into this," Osborne said. "It has nothing to do with any problem with the university or athletic department. I'm fully supportive."Osborne has continued to attend most home games, and he plans to continue to do so this season. He said his health is good and that he's confident he will be able to find tickets."I think there are a few people who will let me sit with them," he said.
Nebraska is among the schools using virtual and augmented reality (https://www.sporttechie.com/college-football-programs-use-var-football-for-preseason-training/) technology for training.Is that where they pretend they are still a national power?
Defense not very assertive, not good sign for next week.The O-line, D as a whole was suspect. Pretty much the whole preseason thread nailed it?
The Hat is in the house.that '83 game is still a memory for me. Back in the day when you relied on the periodic scores to appear on the bottom of the screen, during whatever game was being broadcast on ABC or CBS. One second it was 14-12, early 3rdQ Nebraska and then like two minutes later it was 35-12, then 62-12 a few minutes later, still in the 3rd. I was like what, what? I'm pretty sure my Dad was calling back to Omaha to have the phone placed by the radio. I think the quote from some CU player was, "It was like somebody dropped an atomic bomb on us."
Les Miles brings his larger-than-life résumé to Memorial Stadium on Saturday. Michigan Man. LSU national champion coach. Father of four, including Husker Ben. And now, FS1 analyst, high above in the booth.
This is not Miles’ first Husker rodeo. As the coach reminded me, he was Bill McCartney’s offensive line coach at Colorado (1982-86). That meant bad memories of Memorial: losses of 69-19 in 1983 and 17-7 in 1985. Not to mention a 17-7 loss in the 2003 NU season opener while wearing the Oklahoma State head hat.
It could be a lot worse.In 2014, NU lost its home opener to Cal .... the Bears ended up 1-11 that season
Michigan once lost to a 3-9 Toledo team, who fired a popular coach at the end of the season in spite of the Michigan upset.
Les Miles at Nebraska would be scary but I think things need to get a lot worse before Riley gets fired. Just think, maybe Miles would bring his old defensive coordinator back to help him out in Lincoln?I have been given the impression that if Riley makes a bowl game, he'll have another year. If not, many in the state want Scott Frost.
Still haven't seen a snap of this one, should I even bother watching when I return home? I had a couple texts, regarding pick sixes, and then one saying, 'You were right, this is Callahan 2.0'I wouldn't bother if I were you.
Nebraska has no chance ever in the B1G. It's too bad they have such passionate fans.No. Just no.
There will never come the day when Nebraska outmuscles Ohio St, Penn St, Michigan, etc, for Midwest recruits.
And they won't wrestle southern recruits from the SEC or the TX/OK Big 12.
B1G was a death knell for the Huskers. Good luck Big Red.
if Nebraska falls to Rutgers, is it end of the line for Riley?yes, he may last a few more weeks, but the deal will be sealed.
No. Just no.I think one of Chip's former assistants makes more sense.
Nebraska was winning 9-10 games every year in the B1G under Pelini. He got fired because he couldn't get them over that hump to compete for a title but also because he was an ASSHOLE.
Nebraska is one of the best brands in college football, with one of the best stadiums in college football, and with one of the best traditions in college football.
All it takes is the right coach. Mike Riley was never the right coach. Chip Kelly comes in there, they'll be competing within 2 years.
University of Nebraska Athletic Director Shawn Eichorst will be fired today, a source with knowledge of the situation says.No shit? Wow.
Trev Alberts wouldn't surprise me too muchJust. No.
Just. No.well, just don't send anymore ex-Wisconsin athletic department wonder boys to Lincoln
Just. No.I thought he had done a pretty solid job at UNO
well, just don't send anymore ex-Wisconsin athletic department wonder boys to LincolnHe came to UNL from Miami...
I thought he had done a pretty solid job at UNOYeah, their football team hasn't lost a game since he discontinued the sport.
I'm thinking the whole point of this is to get a new AD that will make the right hire when it comes to a new football coach?This is UNL. You hire the coach and then the coach hires the AD.
Trev Alberts wouldn't surprise me too muchthat won't happen. He's burned too many bridges in Omaha.
Chip. Go big or go home. They need to make it happen.I'd rather have Shaw.
I'd rather have Shaw.I wouldn't.
Does Chip have a show-cause from his recruiting mischief?
I wouldn't.I'll probably rant on candidates/style in another post, but Mdot, f'real?
Kelly built Oregon into a power basically from the ground up.
Kelly built Oregon into a power basically from the ground up.Um,no Mike Belloti led the Ducks to 4 - 10 win seasons('00,'01,'05,'08).Finishing 11-1 and ranked no 2 in both polls in 2001.Took UO to 12 Bowls,he was the wild card that added splash to the Uni's.His 2007 team beat #6 ASU,#9USC and Mich in AA.Just sayin'
Oregon has been rolling pretty good for quite some time before Kelly got there.Kids love it though.
He was handed the keys to a pretty nice car. Shitty wardrobe though.
Interesting.That's why I like Frost. He's an alum, so he gets it, and I think his spread option attack is basically the modern twist on who Nebraska was until Callahan.
http://scout.com/college/nebraska/Board/105415/Contents/Wisconsin-107727060
He's probably right too.
Solich doesn't run the option at Ohio.Well no, nobody runs the old option anymore.
Um,no Mike Belloti led the Ducks to 4 - 10 win seasons('00,'01,'05,'08).Finishing 11-1 and ranked no 2 in both polls in 2001.Took UO to 12 Bowls,he was the wild card that added splash to the Uni's.His 2007 team beat #6 ASU,#9USC and Mich in AA.Just sayin'who was the OC of that '07 team that lit up the scoreboards? Just sayin'.
Chit just saw BAB's post
Well no, nobody runs the old option anymore.Actually he didn't.
He ran it when he got there though.
That's why I like Frost, he's the modern take on the old option.
That's why I like Frost. He's an alum, so he gets it, and I think his spread option attack is basically the modern twist on who Nebraska was until Callahan.Frost would definitely be a gamble. He's too much of an unknown. I think he'd only be a good hire if they missed on candidates A, B, and C. They need to swing for the fences.
Hell, maybe they could just go get Solich back from Ohio.
Actually he didn't.Check his first Ohio team's stats and get back to me on whether he ran the option when he first got to Ohio.
Ohio ran the option under the previous regime. They hired an option coach in Solich. But both Ohio and Solich wanted to get away from the option.
People on this board are not giving Chip Kelly the respect he deserves. He's the best offensive mind in college football.Chipster was the HC for what 3 seasons I think.That's not a sign of prolonged progress.And USC was under sanctions at the time so there's that.Kelly was pretty good simply not all that.Remember Mike Martz IMO their careers took the same trajectory.Everybody fawned over Martz forgetting Vermeil was a fine coach in his own right.Same-same,Belotti BTW was facing off vs Pete Carroll coached teams
Much of this is true, but you wrote "basically from the ground up." And being Wisconsin is probably not the ground in any logical context. (Chip was also only there for one of Bellotti's 10-win seasons)
Belloti had a nice program. It was NOT a powerhouse. They weren't winning 11-12 games every single year and making National Title game appearances until.....Chip Kelly became the head coach. Bellotti had 4 ten or more win seasons in 14 years. Two of those years his OC was Chip Kelly. Chip Kelly had at least 11 wins every single year he was at Oregon- and the guy who was his OC rode out those cottails for a couple more years until the ship fell apart because Chip's guys weren't there anymore and Chip wasn't running the show. Basically a Larry Coker type situation where a guy is handed the keys to the Ferrari and he keeps it going for a couple years and then it falls apart.
Chip Kelly's offense turned what was a top 15-20 program- basically a Wisconsin- into a real-life power on the level of a USC, Alabama, or Ohio State.
People on this board are not giving Chip Kelly the respect he deserves. He's the best offensive mind in college football.
Check his first Ohio team's stats and get back to me on whether he ran the option when he first got to Ohio.I don't doubt that they ran the ball a lot. He wouldn't have had a passing QB on the roster yet. The stats don't tell you what formation they ran out of.
Kelly may be interesting in Westwood.So would the Pirate I always like himIf nothing else, the USC fan base would go ape shit.
Solich's vision for the Ohio offense upon accepting the Ohio job:Yeah, he says he's not getting away from the option, but he needs to throw the ball more. Again, not that this was ever the point of bringing up Solich, but this is from a 2012 article where Solich himself says he decided to move away from the option following a 201 New Orleans Bowl loss to Troy.
http://www.ohiobobcats.com/sports/fball/spec-rel/121604aaa.html
(Solich on what type of offense he will bring in) I've given that some thought and have really done a great deal of traveling this off-year. It was really a year that I actually appreciate having the opportunity to do what I did. I didn't really enjoy the manner in which I got the opportunity to do what I did but traveling around the country as I did to three different pro organizations. I spent considerable time at the Chiefs, spent time with the Vikings in their camp and spent time with the Indianapolis Colts. They were three organizations that I identified as excellent organizations and wanted to learn from. I went around to several colleges and did more than show up and shake hands. I spent time studying their programs. I studied the University of Oklahoma's program, was there for a week, sat in on all their meetings. Coach (Bob) Stoops and his staff were outstanding in allowing me to do that. I was well received around the country by coaches and I very much appreciate that. So I had a chance to really study their program. I was also there in spring ball, stayed for their game against Oregon and also was at the Texas-Oklahoma game. I was at USC twice this past spring and spent time with them and their staff and I thought that was very, very valuable to me. I was up at Wisconsin on three different occasions to spend time with them and their staff. I was down at the University of Miami and spent time with them this past spring. I was at Texas and spent a week there with Coach Mack (Brown). He and his staff were very gracious in spending time with me so I've done an awful lot of studying of different programs and what they're all about.
I've got more pass patterns drawn up than you can imagine. I really went to programs that I thought were developing the ability to both run the ball and throw the ball. I want to be a balanced football team. It's pretty easy to stand up here and say it. I do not want to give up on the option. I do want to run at least a down-the-line option because there are times when you can just take advantage of defenses with that. There are times when you just have an outnumbered situation and you can audible and get to it. But I want a quarterback who has the ability to throw. I would like a quarterback who has some movement so we can design an offense that's going to be based around that quarterback and us having an opportunity to throw as well as run the football. But I do want everybody to understand that I think you still need to have the ability to run the football.
If you look at teams like Oklahoma and if you look at teams like USC, they take great advantage of personnel that they have at very key positions. Look at Reggie Bush; he can line up at tailback or he can line up at wide receiver. They make plays with their quarterback. They make plays with their tailback. They make plays with their receivers. What we'd like to do is recruit those kind of athletes in here who are going to be playmakers at those positions and then we'll be able to have the kind of offense that we want.
If nothing else, the USC fan base would go ape shit.Before or after hang gliding/surfing and in between hits
Yeah, he says he's not getting away from the option, but he needs to throw the ball more. Again, not that this was ever the point of bringing up Solich, but this is from a 2012 article where Solich himself says he decided to move away from the option following a 201 New Orleans Bowl loss to Troy.Huh?
Frank Solich’s faith in the option offense had been forged and confirmed over an almost three-decade association with Nebraska. Solich played fullback there under Bob Devaney. He coached under Tom Osborne, winning three national championships with the same reliable, grinding attack. When he replaced Osborne, the option helped him win 49 games in his first five seasons, more than either Devaney or Osborne over a similar stretch.
In 2003, after his sixth season, one in which Nebraska went 9-3 in the regular season, he was fired, marking perhaps the first time his faith in the option was shaken. Still, two seasons later, he introduced the option to Ohio University, where the Bobcats were often ignored, a stigma perhaps worse than mediocrity.
Huh?I take no offense to these half truths, or no-truths. People used to say Urb (or Rich Rod) introduced the spread/speed option to college football.
It says he introduced the option to Ohio. That's just patently false.
I take no offense to these half truths, or no-truths. People used to say Urb (or Rich Rod) introduced the spread/speed option to college football.Sigh, yeah. What evs.
Sigh, yeah. What evs.I have no idea what they ran before they got there. I just know in his own words, he said after that 2010 Troy game he decided to change his offense. Any further argument, you can bring it up with Frank himself. He clearly didn't run the same option they ran at Nebraska. They passed it far more. Which, again in his own words, is exactly what he said he planned on doing, continuing the run the option, but being able to pass the ball more, because at Ohio you can't simply run it over people when they know it's coming like he could at Nebraska.
I'm just gonna chalk this one up as a lawyer refusing to concede an argument, in spite of an avalanche of evidence the contrary.
Ohio brought in Solich solely so that they could abandon their west coast/spread passing attack, and install a pure option running attack.
Home run hires are great until they don't work out.None of those were considered home-run hires at the time with the exception of RichRod to Michigan. And Rodriguez was rejected immediately by a huge section of the "Michigan Men"- the insiders, former players, boosters. The media and fans might've said- great hire! Home-run! Look at what he did at West Virginia! But most of the people close to the program- were furious. They hated it. They hated Rich.
I recall RichRod being a home run hire. I recall Lane Kiffin being a home run hire. I recall Will Muschamp being a home run hire. I recall Charlie Weis being a home run hire. I recall Charlie Strong being a home run hire.
The list is a long one.
Chip Kelly is not a fit for Nebraska. He just isn't. He needs to be at a place where he can bend the rules a little, have a ton of money to recruit and have a fertile base to recruit from. There will be openings in the PAC-12 and SEC that would suit him much better. Think UCLA and aTm, for starters.
Scott Frost would be a fit, but the fan base (boosters) would need to allow him to take his lumps and build the program in the Nebraska image. That is ground up at this point in time.
Before or after hang gliding/surfing and in between hitsYeah, I think apathetic auto-corrected to ape shit
I have no idea what they ran before they got there. I just know in his own words, he said after that 2010 Troy game he decided to change his offense. Any further argument, you can bring it up with Frank himself. He clearly didn't run the same option they ran at Nebraska. They passed it far more. Which, again in his own words, is exactly what he said he planned on doing, continuing the run the option, but being able to pass the ball more, because at Ohio you can't simply run it over people when they know it's coming like he could at Nebraska.Well I've watched a ton of their games both before and after the Solich hire as one of their WRs was in my HS class, but I'm sure I'm just remembering it wrong. My bad.
Sigh, yeah. What evs.Lawyers gotta stick together. How else are you supposed to round us all up for annihilation?
I'm just gonna chalk this one up as a lawyer refusing to concede an argument, in spite of an avalanche of evidence the contrary.
Ohio brought in Solich solely so that they could abandon their west coast/spread passing attack, and install a pure option running attack.
Since I'm a bit of a pendant myself, I will utter this without any prompting.I didn't follow prior to about 1991, but I don't recall any triple option. Granted I was limited in how much I could see then, as Nebraska usually was in that 3 :30 ABC regional split, where we'd get the Big Ten game. But they almost always ran their option out of the power I or shotgun. Even when they had two backs it seemed like it was always QB or IB/FB, where the other was blocking, rarely that the QB could go to either of the backs.
Tom Osborne and Frank Solich did not run the triple option at Nebraska. It is true that for a brief time, TO did run certain triple option packages in the very late 70s, early 80s, but they predominantly featured the power-I, which featured the option, but rarely an actual triple option (fullback, QB keep or pitch.
Osborne introduced speed option plays in the 90s, and further developed speed option looks from the shotgun during Frazier's time.
The Nebraska run option was run at a much lower rate than his peers which featured the triple option (either the wishbone, or flexbone) during the 70s/80s and 90s. Osborne utilized the counter-trey, which wasn't run as an option play, and basic sweeps, a lot more than he did the option. I would posit that Osborne ran his own option offense which featured all of the aforementioned wrinkles.
Since I'm a bit of a pendant myself, I will utter this without any prompting.Ha, so let me get this straight.
Tom Osborne and Frank Solich did not run the triple option at Nebraska. It is true that for a brief time, TO did run certain triple option packages in the very late 70s, early 80s, but they predominantly featured the power-I, which featured the option, but rarely an actual triple option (fullback, QB keep or pitch.
Osborne introduced speed option plays in the 90s, and further developed speed option looks from the shotgun during Frazier's time.
The Nebraska run option was run at a much lower rate than his peers which featured the triple option (either the wishbone, or flexbone) during the 70s/80s and 90s. Osborne utilized the counter-trey, which wasn't run as an option play, and basic sweeps, a lot more than he did the option. I would posit that Osborne ran his own option offense which featured all of the aforementioned wrinkles.
Since I'm a bit of a pendant myself, I will utter this without any prompting.thank you.. UNL under TO started as a pro set team, went triple and then moved to TO's more famous "option", or as you described it power with some option plays. Any triple option looks were not actually reads but fakes. FB dives were designed plays, not "options".
Tom Osborne and Frank Solich did not run the triple option at Nebraska. It is true that for a brief time, TO did run certain triple option packages in the very late 70s, early 80s, but they predominantly featured the power-I, which featured the option, but rarely an actual triple option (fullback, QB keep or pitch.
Osborne introduced speed option plays in the 90s, and further developed speed option looks from the shotgun during Frazier's time.
The Nebraska run option was run at a much lower rate than his peers which featured the triple option (either the wishbone, or flexbone) during the 70s/80s and 90s. Osborne utilized the counter-trey, which wasn't run as an option play, and basic sweeps, a lot more than he did the option. I would posit that Osborne ran his own option offense which featured all of the aforementioned wrinkles.
Riley should not have been on Eichorst's list - that's why he's gone
The helmet schools should be able to make a "home run" hire every single time. Whether it works out or not remains to be seen. But if you can't land your guy I question your helmet status. The fact that Nebraska hired Riley cemented them in that "almost but not quite" tier for me just outside my 7 true helmets. I can't imagine he'd even be on Michigan or Ohio State or Notre Dame or Texas' list.
no one can agree on anything in this thread lol.I will agree with this.
can we all at least agree on this- Riley is finished. Don't think they make this move unless they are planning to get a new head football coach.
I do think UNL needs to go back to a college offense. You don't have to run the option with the QB, but some designed run plays are important in the CF game. jmoyes, the QB run game puts great pressure on the defense and is a dangerous weapon
so an average of one option play per drive?Well, they were short drives as Ohio was getting the hell kicked out of it by someone.
Far out.
yes, the QB run game puts great pressure on the defense and is a dangerous weaponDefine reliable.
but, it can't be at the expense of a reliable passing game
I can't believe this thread was hijacked by two non-UNL alum, and the subject matter was.....Solich. Hilarious.(https://www.cfb51.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F68.media.tumblr.com%2Fd3b6ece8fcb0064b9d717098a0db923b%2Ftumblr_mozdeabkc11rhk0sdo3_500.gif&hash=8d87e7a08cd3424425f63aa6fc6887bc)
What a great place.
Well, they were short drives as Ohio was getting the hell kicked out of it by someone.At any rate, good call unearthing complete games.
Define reliable.better passing than Taylor Martinez and/or Tommy Armstrong
better passing than Taylor Martinez and/or Tommy ArmstrongSo a passer rating of say 145 or higher? I guess something like OSU has had under Meyer (outside 2014) wouldn't qualify either?
So a passer rating of say 145 or higher? I guess something like OSU has had under Meyer (outside 2014) wouldn't qualify either?pass rating is one metric
especially if Riley would bring Diaco as his D coordinator
I think osu would kill to have Riley back, given what they have now.
Nebraska A.D. updateSo, you think it's possible that the university is thinking maybe having Rimington be the interim as a try-out of sorts for the permanent position? Would be interesting to be a fly on the wall during the coaches meeting - I am assuming it is not only to keep them updated on the search but to get their input on the qualities / qualifications they want to see in the next AD?
Here’s what we know about Nebraska’s work this week to find a new athletic director after the firing of Eichorst:
» Current Husker coaches have been told to be available early in the week to meet with search-firm personnel.
» Discussions are continuing with former Husker All-America center Dave Rimington to become interim A.D. Sources with knowledge of the situation told The World-Herald that Rimington has interest as the interim, and perhaps in the future as a full-time member of NU athletics.
The Wisconsin game gets at 7 p.m. start and a BTN telecast.I will have to miss this one. Damn social calendars.
So, going to assume that no coaches are set to be fired at least for the next 60 days, so Riley and Miles both will be on very thin ice for now.Yeah, he's the AD of the volleyball department which is a revenue sport. Nobody's messing with him. I would think bowling and Erstad might be safe too w/o fuss. Gary Pepin too in T&F.
I would also bet that the only coach with absolutely nothing to worry about right now would be John Cook.
That'll be difficult since his team lost two games to the hurricane and only had 10 on the regular season schedule. I think 8-2 puts him in a solid spot.
He can't finish 9-4 and fourth in his division of the AAC, like Tom Herman was able to get away with at Houston.
He's gotta win at least ten games, imo.
Anyone else sensing some Scott Frost is ready lobbying in the media with his success at UCF?I see what you did there
Weekend chatter is suggesting a new AD will be announced soon. Two leading rumors: Ark's AD or UCF's ADNot sure you really want Jeff Long.
Bill Moos.. WSUthoughts?
The guy is not outlandish and he wins.That would fly anywhere nothing wrong with Frost however.Be like Chryst at UW perhaps but they need a recruiter/salesmanOddly enough, UW's recruiting is better than it's been in a long while. PC is sneaky that way. Yeah, he's getting mostly 3* kids but if you look at the offer lists and who he's beating, it is pretty cool. At a minimum, he's beating who he should beat and often times he wins one he shouldn't. Most important, he's recruiting kids who fit the culture and standards that UW demands.
Should have invited him over for sharkwater if he was in townyou should have drug your lazy carcass to town
you should have drug your lazy carcass to townFWIW:
FWIW:Pretty cool. Takes a bit longer if you are an Iowa fan to see your team win in all BT stadia. I haven't been to all, and have no hope of getting there. I have seen Iowa dispatch all the traditional Big Ten teams, which excludes PSU. I bought a ticket in 2004 just to see Iowa beat the Buckeyes to say I have seen Iowa beat all traditional Big Ten teams.
Fearless specifically and Nebraska in general are great hosts. My dad, brother, and I attended a sharkwater party among our trips to see Ohio State play in all 14 B1G stadiums. We were in Lincoln for the very first B1G game in Memorial stadium on October 8, 2011. We got to see a great first half by the Buckeyes and then, unfortunately, we got to see the largest comeback in the history of Nebraska football. I hope to get back again someday and I think my new goal will be to see the Buckeyes win in all of the B1G stadiums.
‘Scott Frost is going to have to make a decision. It’ll be him or Chip Kelly … I’m sorry to be the voice of doom for Mike Riley, which I hate, because I happen to think the world of him.’Chip or Frost would be a major upgrade over Riley. Frost isn't that proven, but he's putting together a nice run in his 2nd year at UCF. He's more of a risk IMO, but this might be Nebraska's only chance to land him. If he winds up going undefeated or only losing 1 game this year at UCF every school that's looking for a new coach at the end of the year is going to come calling him. Tennessee is still a heck of a job and that one will probably be open as well.
— Former Nebraska assistant coach and Washington State football coach Jim Walden on the future of Cornhuskers football
I have no doubt if Frost's other mother calls he will come home. Nebraska is a huge step up from UCF. Nebraska should just go get him and not pussy foot around with others like Kelly for crying out loud.I have my doubts. Scott knows much too well what it's like in Lincoln if you're not winning at an acceptable pace. He was booed as a QB there in 1996.
question remains, can Moos and UNL beat out other suitors such as Tennessee and others for Chip and Scott?Recruiting has already taken a hit and will continue to fall apart. I'd suggest almost all the recruits are being told UNL has fired their AD. That means a new coach is coming in the future. Guys who were solid are now taking visits. I'd suggest you need to make the change this year. Else, you lose 2 classes.
if they can not, do they give Riley another season to retain his recruiting class and wait until they can land a better option
this is the only scenario that I can come up with that allows Riley to keep his job
Oops.and there's no way of knowing if Gary would have been any more successful on the field than Bo
I've always been of the opinion that any new coach should be allowed to choose his own assistants. If Patterson interviewed and liked Watson, then great. If not, then so be it. Watson's offenses scored a lot of points against bad teams. Against the better ones, not so much.I agree.. Solich was also handicapped by TO on keeping asst coaches.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/546044850613657601/ZUDPxGOZ_normal.jpeg)Lars Anderson (https://twitter.com/LarsAnderson71)Hope it happens and I hope that Frost is the real deal. I still think he's a bit of a gamble and not that proven. I just want to see Nebraska get back. It's good for the conference and the sport. Nebraska at a high level competing with Wisconsin in the West will just bring the B1G up an entire notch.
✔@LarsAnderson71 (https://twitter.com/LarsAnderson71)Not a breaking-news guy, but hearing a lot of heavy breathing on Nebraska coaching front: Scott Frost to NU for 7 years, $35 mil is "close."
6:39 PM - Nov 17, 2017 (https://twitter.com/LarsAnderson71/status/931683340146696193)
Athletic Director Bill Moos believes Nebraska needs a rival, and he wants it to be Iowa.With all of the changes to the Big Ten over the past decade, the one new tradition I liked was Iowa-Nebraska on Black Friday. Please lock that back in.
On the nightly radio show on the Husker Sports Network Monday evening, Moos said he has already met with the Big Ten to try and make Iowa the permanent Black Friday opponent.
Nebraska has played in 28 straight Black Friday games, but is currently scheduled to stop by 2020.
"I'm going to really push, to establish Iowa as being our rival," Moos said on air. "We came into the Big Ten and we need a rivalry game, and I've already been to the Big Ten and talked to them about that so hopefully we can keep that Black Friday game and have that be Iowa each year."
Fearless:I was in high school from 70-73, so am old enough to remember watching the Game of the Century on TV, and my last game attended with my dad before he died was the 2009 slugfest that we won 10-3. So many great memories sandwiched in between those years. I am so looking forward to 2022 and I guess I'd better start saving up money to buy a ticket to that one. I really miss that rivalry. It just doesn't seem like Thanksgiving without it.
Thinking about Sooners and Huskers in 2021-22. I want to get to Lincoln in 2022.
This was in the Tulsa paper today about the great Thanksgiving-ish games between the two programs (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/ousportsextra/guerin-emig-remembering-when-ou-nebraska-was-a-delicious-thanksgiving/article_a45dd124-ab9f-582f-a06f-29b5cf12f1f7.html).
With all of the changes to the Big Ten over the past decade, the one new tradition I liked was Iowa-Nebraska on Black Friday. Please lock that back in.Totally agree, I like the Nebraska BF game a lot and think Iowa is the natural fit for it.
Totally agree, I like the Nebraska BF game a lot and think Iowa is the natural fit for it.I selfishly agree. Is it a real rivalry? No. But both of our preferred rivals are spoken for, and it's been 25 years now, so it feels right, even if it's not really a rivalry, and the trophy is garbage.
I hope they go back to PSU/MSU at 3:30 following OSU/UM at noon. Just seems like the right way to finish up the regular season in the east.
They need to stop force feeding us something that's not there and never will be with PSU/Maryland.
I selfishly agree. Is it a real rivalry? No. But both of our preferred rivals are spoken for, and it's been 25 years now, so it feels right, even if it's not really a rivalry, and the trophy is garbage.The trophy alone is why they should do it.
Fearless:I will meet you and huskerdinie there. I'll come down Friday afternoon if you'd like and we could take in the old school Misty's Friday evening atmosphere where Barry Switzer was known to hang out.
Thinking about Sooners and Huskers in 2021-22. I want to get to Lincoln in 2022.
This was in the Tulsa paper today about the great Thanksgiving-ish games between the two programs (http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/ousportsextra/guerin-emig-remembering-when-ou-nebraska-was-a-delicious-thanksgiving/article_a45dd124-ab9f-582f-a06f-29b5cf12f1f7.html).
I will meet you and huskerdinie there. I'll come down Friday afternoon if you'd like and we could take in the old school Misty's Friday evening atmosphere where Barry Switzer was known to hang out.Downtown or Havelock Misty's? I hate to say that after living right here in Lincoln for the past three years, I have yet to make it to either one, although I always wanted to go. My hubby and I are planning to have our 30th anniversary there next November if we can corral all our kids from Kentucky, Wyoming and Alaska, lol. Odds are not looking good, though.
Otherwise, I'll simply meet you on gameday for a drink and a smile.
I will be coming to Norman for the game there if A TALL possible
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Years ago at one of those Game of the Century reunions that have occurred many times since 1971, Barry Switzer was asked about Oklahoma vs. Nebraska. He said it as well as anyone has:
“We were far enough apart and had mutual respect for each other. We never had anything that caused any friction or controversy between the two teams. We didn’t recruit the same players. Football meant a lot to the two universities and their fans ...
“We damn sure couldn’t do this with Texas.”
obviously I agree about continuing the Husker/Hawk game on BFI'd agree with that, Wisconsin seems like a more natural fit for a rivalry with Nebraska in the West than Iowa IMO. Iowa is a strange team. They win one game at home every year they have NO FREAKING business winning (see: Michigan last year, Ohio State beat down this year) but otherwise fluctuate from mediocre to flat out stinking. Weird program. Weird as hell really. Not a program I'd want a "rivalry" with. Not a program I like playing. At all. Wish that we could just get them permanently dropped from the schedule to be honest.
if that can't happen pre Big Jim, then I would ask for Husker/Badger instead of UNL/PSU - just for personal and selfish reasons and for keeping it in the west
I hate the B1G schedule makers.one thing EVERYONE can agree with
I would also like to be in attendance for Riley's last game and give him a standing ovation as he walks off the field. He is a great man and has represented the university, the football program, the players, the fans, and the state of Nebraska with class and integrityexactly I remember listening to him during tOSU-ORE. championship game.He was in the coaches film room with Mullen(Miss St) & Mason(vandy).MR was very insightful into everything the Ducks ran having been at Ore.St.Good guy and wish him the best.I'm confident the 'Sker faithful will give him a good send off
sadly, just not a good enough coach
Hope it happens and I hope that Frost is the real deal. I still think he's a bit of a gamble and not that proven. I just want to see Nebraska get back. It's good for the conference and the sport. Nebraska at a high level competing with Wisconsin in the West will just bring the B1G up an entire notch.I think it would be good if Iowa came back. Or, if Minnesota came back. Or, if Nebraska came back. But I am thinking NU and Purdue don't think so. We have a competitive league and for the most part a competitive division. Wisconsin dominated it this season, but that doesn't always happen.
Athletic Director Bill Moos believes Nebraska needs a rival, and he wants it to be Iowa.I don't object to the Black Friday game between Iowa and Nebraska. I also don't object to the Iowa-Wisconsin series to close out the Big Ten season since I view Wisconsin as Iowa's biggest rival. We could move that to Black Friday if the rest of the conference agrees that the conference needs a Black Friday game.
On the nightly radio show on the Husker Sports Network Monday evening, Moos said he has already met with the Big Ten to try and make Iowa the permanent Black Friday opponent.
Nebraska has played in 28 straight Black Friday games, but is currently scheduled to stop by 2020.
"I'm going to really push, to establish Iowa as being our rival," Moos said on air. "We came into the Big Ten and we need a rivalry game, and I've already been to the Big Ten and talked to them about that so hopefully we can keep that Black Friday game and have that be Iowa each year."
Riley is a class act, even at termination.an amazing person and the reason Eichorst hired Riley
what if they receive a new years bowl bid... if you were SF, would you coach through the bowl game?Different animal really, starting this year. The early signing period is next week I think.
http://www.omaha.com/huskers/football/mckewon-no-more-mr-nicxe-guy-as-mike-riley-leaves/article_6c04f41c-d209-11e7-b8b6-ff950dad6f29.html (http://www.omaha.com/huskers/football/mckewon-no-more-mr-nicxe-guy-as-mike-riley-leaves/article_6c04f41c-d209-11e7-b8b6-ff950dad6f29.html)That's a pretty hard core breakdown by Sam. Very good piece.
Nice guy stood for nothing..
what if they receive a new years bowl bid... if you were SF, would you coach through the bowl game?good question. I think he does for two reasons
Isn't it time for a Nebraska off season thread?what? silly buckeye, it's ALWAYS football season in Nebraska
Isn't it time for a Nebraska off season thread?Harsh, but accurate.. (cries a little)
I'm skeptical about Jimbo leaving FSUI kind of agree, but didn't he just do this last year with LSU? I think they may call his bluff this time if he's positioning for more money.
I'm going to guess Frost won't bring all of his assistants. Usually doesn't happen. Some stay..seems to me you wouldn't fire the entire staff save for Trent Bray if there were going to be interviews and a chance to stay
I wonder who, if any, of the current staff is interviewed or hired.
seems to me you wouldn't fire the entire staff save for Trent Bray if there were going to be interviews and a chance to stayThey might promote Troy Walters. If not, I could see a different mid-major come and offer him a head coaching job.
of course there would be no assurance of staying, so letting them loose to find a new job is the thing to do
I could see a coordinator staying at UCF if they are promoted to head coach, that might not happen
just a tweet I saw... interesting....WOW - good research,unbelievable
The final 1995 College Football poll, with today’s final regular season records: 1- Nebraska (4-8) 2- Florida (4-7) 3- Tennessee (4-8) 4- Florida State (5-6) 5- Colorado (5-7) The 5 best teams in 1995 have a combined winning percentage of 38% in 2017.
seems to me you wouldn't fire the entire staff save for Trent Bray if there were going to be interviews and a chance to stayAsst Coaching contracts are tied to the HC. When Bo was fired, UNL had to set up separate contracts with each assist for the bowl game. So when you fire the coach, you fire the assistants. Why pay them when the next coach may or may not want them..?
of course there would be no assurance of staying, so letting them loose to find a new job is the thing to do
I could see a coordinator staying at UCF if they are promoted to head coach, that might not happen
WOW - good research,unbelievableAnd the current Top 5 with their 1995 records... Clemson (8-4), Oklahoma (5-5-1), Wisconsin (4-5-2), #22 Auburn (8-4), #21 Alabama (8-3).
And the current Top 5 with their 1995 records... Clemson (8-4), Oklahoma (5-5-1), Wisconsin (4-5-2), #22 Auburn (8-4), #21 Alabama (8-3).Man, do I miss ties. Going on pure memory. I'm gonna say that was OU/UT tie at 24, and for Wisconsin they tied Stanford, and then in the final tie in I-A history the glorious 3-3 tie versus Illinois.
Certainly not nearly as drastic, but point is, things change. I also don't remember Clemson having a season even as good as 8-4 in the mid-90s.
Former Husker Courtney Love wins the 2017 Wuerffel Trophy for community service.Awful band though
Pelini recruit
Kearney Catholic's Masker to join Huskers as a walk-onAre these guys "preferred" walk-ons? Will they have reasonable chances of earning schollies if they are good enough?
Kearney Catholic quarterback Matt Masker joined the fold Sunday evening, announcing on Twitter that he will be playing football and going to school in Lincoln.
Masker earned first-team All-State recognition in Class C-1 from the Lincoln Journal Star after he threw for 2,506 yards (62.1 percent completions) and 25 touchdowns against just four interceptions in 10 games during his senior year, per MaxPreps. In his career, he threw for 7,050 yards and 86 touchdowns while averaging 14.5 yards per completion.
By doing so, he becomes the eighth in-state walk-on to commit to NU in the past five days alone.
No. He's not. Kid worked pretty hard, very good attitude by all accounts. I suppose he'll get a look.this seems true. He left saying good things and never complained all year about his poor OL or lacking of running game. He will perform well in drills, so expect a late round draft. He's also been in a pro system, which will help. I hope he makes it.
Did the husker staff say that or other staffs? Or did he read it on the internet? Article just states his opinion.PC has a policy against doing that, so I doubt it - and particularly with Riley, who Chryst adores and credits much of his career to.
I'm sure other staffs were taking shots at Riley last year trying to flip kids too.. including Wisconsin.
Yeah.. original thoughts..I'd be shocked if they don't... I'm sure prior to the bowl game, Wisconsin was reviewing sack #'s of UCF and Wisconsin with the juco LB that ended up choosing UNL. In fact, that was our understanding for not signing immediately...
I hope Jimmy Leonhard gets to talk to him again. Maybe bring up that "defense" that coughed up 55 to Memphis. Memphis...
All's fair, right? :88:
PC has a policy against doing that, so I doubt it - and particularly with Riley, who Chryst adores and credits much of his career to.You are probably correct on Wisconsin and Riley. My bad...
Yeah.. original thoughts..48.2: UCF’s points-per-game average, which barring something historically bizarre in the Alabama-Georgia game — like one team scoring 200 points — will be the nation’s No. 1 scoring offense. No. 2? Memphis, the team UCF beat in the American Athletic Conference title game.
I hope Jimmy Leonhard gets to talk to him again. Maybe bring up that "defense" that coughed up 55 to Memphis. Memphis...
All's fair, right? :88:
PC has a policy against doing that, so I doubt it - and particularly with Riley, who Chryst adores and credits much of his career to.everything I've heard about Frost is that he probably has the same policy
I prefer to believe it was Michigandamn that HARBAUGH!!!!
I think if it's a legitimate on field thing, it's all fair, and I have zero problem with it. If Wisconsin uses Frost's UCF defense against him in recruiting a defensive player, I have absolutely zero problem with that. If a school points out they'be put X number of QBs in the NFL, while another school recruiting the kid has put far fewer, again no problem. It's the other stuff, Dabo telling kids Saban was going to retire or whatever, that I have no place for.I'd be shocked if coaches in the BIG12 were not telling KSU recruits Snyder is going to retire soon. Flat out shocked..
I'd be shocked if they don't... I'm sure prior to the bowl game, Wisconsin was reviewing sack #'s of UCF and Wisconsin with the juco LB that ended up choosing UNL. In fact, that was our understanding for not signing immediately...Actually what happened there was UW had to pull back almost immediately because TJ Edwards got a "stay in school" grade the day after UW offered the other kid. So, there was no space for him in Madison, otherwise he'd probably be there now.
I'd be shocked if coaches in the BIG12 were not telling KSU recruits Snyder is going to retire soon. Flat out shocked..Yeah, and I don't like that. But if they are pointing out that the only high QB picked from KSU ever played for Ron Prince, I don't mind that.
btw.... just a couple days ago, your DC was rumored to be heading to FSU. That was news. As you say, your DC can discuss his future and squash a bad rumor. If he can't... that's on him.Only people from FSU were talking about that. Fake News. They asked him and he said no. End of story, but Fake News persisted.
Only people from FSU were talking about that. Fake News. They asked him and he said no. End of story, but Fake News persisted.How many times was Bob Stoops rumored to go someplace else? it happens. Coaches at this level know how to deal with it. They're not amateurs.
Now they want the MSU DC. And when he says no they'll want Monte Kiffin. Or someone.
I think if it's a legitimate on field thing, it's all fair, and I have zero problem with it. If Wisconsin uses Frost's UCF defense against him in recruiting a defensive player, I have absolutely zero problem with that. If a school points out they'be put X number of QBs in the NFL, while another school recruiting the kid has put far fewer, again no problem. It's the other stuff, Dabo telling kids Saban was going to retire or whatever, that I have no place for.That is the perfect approach. Or stuff like this:
Only people from FSU were talking about that. Fake News. They asked him and he said no. End of story, but Fake News persisted.I'm not convinced he'll say no. He's only the co-DC at MSU, because MD didn't want to piss either him or Tressell off by choosing one of them when Narduzzi left.
Now they want the MSU DC. And when he says no they'll want Monte Kiffin. Or someone.
That is the perfect approach. Or stuff like this:Exactly, and WIsconsin doesn't just sell that in a vacuum, but sells a comparison to other schools, I think thats' 100% fine. I mean Nebraska's got Richie Incognito, so...
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I prefer to believe it was MichiganCould be. He has been using negative tactics against Wisconsin lately too. I think he should just look in the mirror if he wants to see negative.
I'm not convinced he'll say no. He's only the co-DC at MSU, because MD didn't want to piss either him or Tressell off by choosing one of them when Narduzzi left.Interesting. I wasn't aware that he was a co-pilot. That changes things a whole lot.
So he makes about $450k, rumor is FSU is paying about $850k. Does MSU give him the pay bump? Perhaps. Problem is it's not just him, since he's a co-DC, you kind of have to bump Tressell too, so it amounts to paying two guys at the normal DC rate.
Exactly, and WIsconsin doesn't just sell that in a vacuum, but sells a comparison to other schools, I think thats' 100% fine. I mean Nebraska's got Richie Incognito, so...is that fear I smell...? :098:
oh wait.. you meant Nebraska NU, right?Heh. NU won 10 games this past season. :smiley_confused1:
Did you hack my phone ELA? We were talking about that about an hour ago.Let me just make sure MSU doesn't have Nebraska as a crossover opponent in 2019 or 2020 before I suggest it too loudly.
Considering Hurts' Alabama career is seemingly done, he'd be a pretty nice fit in Frost's offense.seems that Frost likes to throw the ball quite a bit, Hurt doesn't seem to have the arm talent
yup, seems oddWhen OSU joined the Big Ten in 1913, a major sticking point was that the Conference only allowed a 7 game schedule. Four Conference games, three non-Conference games.
doubt we will ever know
too many years have passed
yup, seems oddI have to think Mike Babcock has written about that. I need to check that out.
doubt we will ever know
too many years have passed
When OSU joined the Big Ten in 1913, a major sticking point was that the Conference only allowed a 7 game schedule. Four Conference games, three non-Conference games.so, the Huskers were invited to join the B1G before the Buck nuts?
They also had to terminate the Michigan series, due to some sorta league-wide scheduling boycott.
I have no problem with that, but it's not like we will run out of pagesYeah, but it gets hard to find posts you are looking for once it gets too big
(https://i1.wp.com/bigredturtle.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/2018-schedule.jpg?resize=596%2C686)Pffft.
Baptism by fire!
In year one, Scott Frost draws King Barry's nightmare crossover schedule, with Michigan, Ohio St and Michigan St all in the same season.
Two of the three are on the road, on top of it... and so is the Wisconsin game... and the Iowa game!?
(https://www.bingeclock.com/memes/seinfeld___good_luck_with_all_that.jpg)
(https://i1.wp.com/bigredturtle.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/2018-schedule.jpg?resize=596%2C686)There is certainly a sense by the locals that the BIG is going out of its way to make life difficult on UNL.
Baptism by fire!
In year one, Scott Frost draws King Barry's nightmare crossover schedule, with Michigan, Ohio St and Michigan St all in the same season.
Two of the three are on the road, on top of it... and so is the Wisconsin game... and the Iowa game!?
(https://www.bingeclock.com/memes/seinfeld___good_luck_with_all_that.jpg)
the Huskers haven't had a program that could dominate any conference since the Frank Solich daysThat is correct. That post you made on the UW thread made me curious so I went and looked at the comments on it.
and you didn't hear that from any Husker fans still posting here
There's no conspiracy. The crossover schedule is on a rotation. Weather you are Wisconsin or Nebraska, you don't get to play Rutgers and Indiana every year.Think how Michigan feels too.
Speaking of which. Think how Rutgers and Indiana feel? They'd have to put together one of the best teams in school history in order to even have an outside chance of winning their division.
This thread has turned into a confessional. I'm sure my message board track record would display that I have been disenchanted with Nebraska's prospects since 2004. I don't doubt the strawman exists that touted Nebraska's B1G prospects, but it wasn't me. The football program didn't ascend or descend as a result of joining the B1G. It's been on the same damn plane for a decade plus. I hope that changes of course.I'm pretty certain it will change.
Making it hard on Nebraska? I don't think so. Nebraska has made it hard on Nebraska, but I think that's all gonna start to change now with the hire of Scott Frost.You will never hear or see my state UNL's problems were not their own. 100% of UNL's lack of success has to do with UNL and not the BIG, crossover games, etc.. That team last year has a similar record and any P5 conference.
I remember the mediots and a lot of UNL fans telling us the Huskers were gonna come in and dominate. It may happen someday, but so far not so much.
Heh.I still think MSU should be in the West and then the 3rd week in September, MSU plays Mich, UNL plays PSU, Wisky plays OSU... But I'm not in charge.
Michigan is a wine and cheese crowd. They aren't FB crazy like Cornhusker Nation. Their legendary coach of the modern era is a guy that couldn't win Bowl games, and only finished 1 game over .500 vs OSU. The bar is low.
If anything, the Big Ten was extremely generous to Nebraska by sticking them in the B1G West. They don't have to win recruiting battles vs OSU, PSU and Michigan in order to compete for Big Ten Titles. All they have to do is figure out a way to out-Wisconsin Wisconsin, and they are a virtual lock for an annual spot in the Big Ten Ccg. Once you get to the Title Game, anything can happen.
You will never hear or see my state UNL's problems were not their own. 100% of UNL's lack of success has to do with UNL and not the BIG, crossover games, etc.. That team last year has a similar record and any P5 conference.I know OSU fans play with themselves, but OSU never, ever has to play itself. At least they don't have to play Iowa every year like our guys do.
But, those 3 cross over games are a tougher road to sled than anyone else in the west. Those in the east will say.. so what? We play that every year. And that is also factual.
I still think MSU should be in the West and then the 3rd week in September, MSU plays Mich, UNL plays PSU, Wisky plays OSU... But I'm not in charge.That would be great. I'd love to see Big Red play OSU every year. It got pretty heated there for a bit, and then Delany took it away.
and yes, I've posted that often. I think that makes more sense and would keep MSU/Mich playing annually and allow UNL/PSU to renew their historic animosity.
The Legends division was Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska and Northwestern. The Leaders division was Illinois, Indiana, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue, Wisconsin.Dec 13, 2010That Michigan loss had to sting too.
The only complaint when joining the B1G was the first season schedule. I wasn't complaining. Should have handled Northwestern in Lincoln.
10/01 #Wisconsin Madison L 17-48 8/7 81,384
10/08 #Ohio State-HC Lincoln W 34-27 14/ 85,426
10/22 #Minnesota Minneapolis W 41-14 13/ 49,187
10/29 #Michigan St. Lincoln W 24- 3 13/9 85,641
11/05 #Northwestern Lincoln L 25-28 9/ 85,115
11/12 #Penn State State College W 17-14 19/12 107,903
11/19 #Michigan Ann Arbor L 17-45 17/20 113,718
11/25 #Iowa Lincoln W 20- 7 22/ 85,595
I still think MSU should be in the West and then the 3rd week in September, MSU plays Mich, UNL plays PSU, Wisky plays OSU... But I'm not in charge.Well I like having Nebraska as OSU's fixed crossover, but would gladly swap with Penn St if it would protect the geographical soundness of the Big Ten divisions.
and yes, I've posted that often. I think that makes more sense and would keep MSU/Mich playing annually and allow UNL/PSU to renew their historic animosity.
That Michigan loss had to sting too.would have stung much more if Bo would have beat Northwestern and come into Ann Arbor ranked in the top 10
Well I like having Nebraska as OSU's fixed crossover, but would gladly swap with Penn St if it would protect the geographical soundness of the Big Ten divisions.UW/OSU and UNL/PSU makes much more sense to me than OSU/UNL and UW/PSU.
Michigan is Wisconsin's fixed crossover rival. Not Penn St.I was speaking to Entropy's idea for fixed crossovers with MSU in the West (and I assume Purdue in the East) as well as to your reply.
Penn St's fixed crossover is Iowa.
I'd rather play Nebraska every year than Iowa because of their helmet status, but I'd reluctantly switch with Penn St because I am a geography-minded individual and it would absolutely bug the crap out of me if MSU and Purdue were switched. It wouldn't even do all that much to balance the divisions. Sure MSU is better than Purdue right now, but there would still be a 1-3 split of the "helmet" schools.
The inner-outer idea that we had when they were contemplating the new divisional alignment is a compromise that I could have lived with, but the proposal of swapping MSU for Purdue is not one that I could ever get behind.
If you wanna beef up the West by adding Texas and Oklahoma, now we're talking.
MSU spent the entire two decade 11 team era as the only team with two of the three helmet schools as their locked in opponents, with the chance to play the third.They do indeed.
Then in the brief 12 team era we landed Indiana as our guaranteed crossover "rival."
Things change
and ungrateful Ralphie left her brothers to go west to the PacRalphie had been batting her eyes at the Pac for a long time, had she not?
and ungrateful Ralphie left her brothers to go west to the Pac
no wonder Devaney bolted from Wyoming in 62The Big Six raided the Mountain States Conference for their best team (Colorado) and then the SWC raided the Border Conference for their best team (TX Tech). Then the haves from each Conference ditched the have-nots, and from the ashes formed the WAC; Arizona, ASU, BYU, Utah, Colorado St, Wyoming, New Mexico and UTep.
How old is that graphic? 1995ish?That's the Wikipedia template chart graphic
Nebraska's 2018 walk-on class just keeps growing.
The latest addition is Kearney High standout Isaiah Stalbird, who announced his intentions to join the Huskers via Twitter on Wednesday afternoon.
Stalbird, who is listed at 6-foot-1 and 196 pounds on his Hudl profile, played receiver and safety for the Bearcats, who went 12-1, losing in the Class A state championship game to Omaha North.
Now, he's No. 15 in the Huskers' large walk-on class.
Nebraska's 2018 walk-on class just keeps growing.Walk-ons used to be a big deal for Nebraska weren't they?
The latest addition is Kearney High standout Isaiah Stalbird, who announced his intentions to join the Huskers via Twitter on Wednesday afternoon.
Stalbird, who is listed at 6-foot-1 and 196 pounds on his Hudl profile, played receiver and safety for the Bearcats, who went 12-1, losing in the Class A state championship game to Omaha North.
Now, he's No. 15 in the Huskers' large walk-on class.
Wide receiver Tyjon Lindsey and defensive lineman Dylan Owen were hospitalized after a winter workout, but have been released and have returned to the team, Nebraska head coach Scott Frost confirmed to the Journal Star on Tuesday morning.From the Font of All Wisdom and Knowledge:
Lindsey and Owen both were treated for rhabdomyolysis, the first-year Husker head coach said. Lindsey was in the hospital for three days and Owen for two.
"Anything that happens in our program is ultimately my responsibility," Frost said. "Our strength coach and training room were coordinating to do absolutely the best they could to make sure the transition went smooth, but two kids that exerted themselves too far and had (rhabdomyolysis).
Walk-ons used to be a big deal for Nebraska weren't they?Here's the list of all 25 of the Husker walk-ons who went on to hear their name called in the NFL Draft, listed with position and the year in which they were drafted.
Guys this year are turning down scholarships to walkon. Last few years, they ended up at south Dakota state or Montana st.That is exactly what UW gets with its walk-on players. They even get some with offers from mid-majors, like Minnesota, too.
Bill Moos has begun the conversation with the people who matter about the possibility of Iowa being Nebraska's permanent opponent for the Black Friday game.Let's set it up at a neutral place midway. Drake Stadium. 20,000 people cheering for beer. I shouldn't try to make ISU irrelevant, but that could be another midway point. Feeling evil tonight.
"I have talked to both the Big Ten and to my counterpart at Iowa about the prospects of really starting to develop a true rivalry between our two schools," the Husker athletic director told Nebraska247 on Wednesday. "And especially in football, that game on an annual basis, whether at their place or ours, be on that Friday following Thanksgiving."
Let's set it up at a neutral place midway. Drake Stadium. 20,000 people cheering for beer. I shouldn't try to make ISU irrelevant, but that could be another midway point. Feeling evil tonight.Council Bluffs? Omaha? Arrowhead?
Nebraska’s 2018 schedule is the nation’s toughest in this ranking.Bear with me, but it could very well be just like Saban's first at Bama. Take your lumps, expectations b/c of this schedule should be tempered, then come out guns blazing in 2019 after a full year of recruiting. NOT saying Frost is the next Saban, just giving some historical precedence.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2758778-ranking-college-footballs-10-hardest-schedules-for-2018 (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2758778-ranking-college-footballs-10-hardest-schedules-for-2018)
Nebraska could hardly face a tougher Big Ten schedule.
Seriously, this slate is brutal with a capital "BRUTAL." The Cornhuskers will travel to Michigan, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Ohio State and Iowa next season, only hosting Michigan State. They basically only miss Penn State in conference action.
Additionally, the classic matchup with Colorado resumes in 2018, and a date with Troy—which sprung an upset on LSU last year—deserves the Cornhuskers' respect.
Scott Frost did amazing work at UCF, but the head coach's first season at his alma mater may be doomed from the start.
Bear with me, but it could very well be just like Saban's first at Bama. Take your lumps, expectations b/c of this schedule should be tempered, then come out guns blazing in 2019 after a full year of recruiting. NOT saying Frost is the next Saban, just giving some historical precedence.That is what most rational Husker fans- and I don't think there are a ton of those these days- believe about the situation.
Looking forward to seeing the Huskers return the perch they belong on.
Nebraska’s 2018 schedule is the nation’s toughest in this ranking.I don't think it could be worse, but then . . . Maryland may rebound in 2018 after injury problems in 2017 doomed a promising season. On the positive side Nebraska doesn't play Maryland.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2758778-ranking-college-footballs-10-hardest-schedules-for-2018 (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2758778-ranking-college-footballs-10-hardest-schedules-for-2018)
Nebraska could hardly face a tougher Big Ten schedule.
Seriously, this slate is brutal with a capital "BRUTAL." The Cornhuskers will travel to Michigan, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Ohio State and Iowa next season, only hosting Michigan State. They basically only miss Penn State in conference action.
Additionally, the classic matchup with Colorado resumes in 2018, and a date with Troy—which sprung an upset on LSU last year—deserves the Cornhuskers' respect.
Scott Frost did amazing work at UCF, but the head coach's first season at his alma mater may be doomed from the start.
There will be some nitpicking, but 90% of the blame will fall on Riley...and he should shoulder most of it, with a bit left over for Pelini.oh, he'll get criticized for not running the ball enough, because he's going to lose 6 games
It will be interesting to see if Frost gets criticized for not running the ball enough though, heh.
Arizona graduate transfer quarterback Brandon Dawkins has been linked to Nebraska, according to ESPN.There were some rumors he might follow his OC to Illinois too
The 6-foot-3, 210-pound Dawkins announced on Twitter last month he was leaving the school after getting his degree in May. He threw for 2,412 yards and 15 touchdowns and rushed for 1,582 yards and 20 touchdowns over three seasons for the Wildcats. He supplanted Anu Solomon as the starter in 2016 and was himself replaced as the starter this season by Khalil Tate.
According to ESPN, Dawkins is visiting Indiana and Florida Atlantic in upcoming weeks.
There were some rumors he might follow his OC to Illinois tooTotally missed this, but Dawkins is heading to the Big Ten. Not to Illinois or Nebraska, but to Indiana.
the first tunnel walk of shame of the season...Hella fun stuff there.
https://imgur.com/gallery/Sn4UzTO (https://imgur.com/gallery/Sn4UzTO)
this...........
I’d like to see us as a 10-11 win type of program, that occasionally wins 12-13 games, bottoms out at 8-9 wins if things go south. Win a conference title now and then, go to some top-tier bowls and win some of them, finish in the Top 15 most of the time. Basically, a modern version of what we were in the 70s and 80s.
I will be attending that gameBeats being a steer, I suppose.
Ralphie is a COW!
Scott Frost's house was 'burgled. Rings and such taken from his Lincoln home.They just steal the half a ring he stole from Michigan? :91:
The Athletic Department unveiled the Huskers’ 2018 uniforms Monday morning on Twitter. The most obvious change is the lack of stripes on the sides of the pants. Nebraska also went with stripeless pants from 1995 through 2001.Not a bad stretch
burglar will soon be missing his big balls when caught
I don't usually give the local authorities much chance to solve these burglaries, but they will have the help and full support of 95% of the state of Nebraska
Yeah. He can't possibly unload these items in tact.Buncha sexists.
I'm not a big fan of coaches cutting kids or running them off, but it tends to happen a lot when a new coach comes on.agreed
New coach comes on, evaluates, and finds some kids he doesn't need. "Son, you will never see the field here, so if you want to play, I suggest you look around." That's the kid's choice in that case.
Much different is when the new coach comes on, evaluates, and tells a kid he's no longer on scholarship.
I agreeBy "silent" I just meant the theoretical times when a coach runs a player off but rather than complain to the media, the kid keeps it to himself and moves on. It's *possible* that this happens, never/seldom/maybe even a lot, but I don't think that's a conversation worth happening. I could say it is stupid to think we have an epidemic of those "silent" cases and someone else could say it's stupid to think we don't and the conversation cant go anywhere because neither side has info to back itself up. Because only the transfers who aren't speaking know for sure.
wasn't suggesting you thought otherwise
was just a comment regarding your "when it happens silently"
so, Coach picks the QB that can run. Runner up in the QB battle leaves the programThe Indiana grad transfer from Arizona quit too.
now, can't allow the starter to run for fear of injury with no backup
perfect!
marq... but Tony, Mike and Tommie were all recruited for TO's system. A pocket QB in a spread system is a tough match.exactly,
Since 2012, they've recruited 11 QB's and 6 has transferred. Painfully obvious what has to get better.since 2012, 3 different staffs, 3 different offenses
time for some Tunnel Walk of Shame...Good stuff. And yes, Drake Martinez sucked. The only time I noticed him during his one year at MSU was when he took penalties, including one that cost them a game at Indiana. 2016 was a mess, but I still wonder HOW bad it would have gotten without that. They'd be 3-1 with road win at Notre Dame and Indiana, with a forgivable home loss to Wisconsin. Not that they were title contenders, but things really snowballed after they blew that lead in Bloomington, and you wonder if they otherwise had 6-6 or 7-5 in them, not 3-9.
https://imgur.com/a/xN1BXBo (https://imgur.com/a/xN1BXBo)
Good stuff. And yes, Drake Martinez sucked. The only time I noticed him during his one year at MSU was when he took penalties, including one that cost them a game at Indiana. 2016 was a mess, but I still wonder HOW bad it would have gotten without that. They'd be 3-1 with road win at Notre Dame and Indiana, with a forgivable home loss to Wisconsin. Not that they were title contenders, but things really snowballed after they blew that lead in Bloomington, and you wonder if they otherwise had 6-6 or 7-5 in them, not 3-9.MSU was absolutely 6-6/7-5 talented that year. It wasn't physical; it was how bad timing affected the mental.
Bo is on the hot seat at Youngstown? Didn't he just make them good again for the first time since Tressell?Yeah, he had them in the FCS Championship Game two years ago. They hadn't even made the tournament since 2006, and that was their lone appearance since 2000. If he's already on the hot seat, Youngstown may need to re-evaluate some things.
Yeah, he had them in the FCS Championship Game two years ago. They hadn't even made the tournament since 2006, and that was their lone appearance since 2000. If he's already on the hot seat, Youngstown may need to re-evaluate some things.Ed Zachery,unless he's popping off behind the scenes.Hard to imagine he would want to be disagreeable after a second chance in an area he grew up in.Tressell is prolly easy enough to get along with
It is? Does he ride his basket bike on campus? Weird if so. Really weird.https://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--mike-riley-s-wild-coaching-ride-has-orgeon-state-cruising-up-the-bcs-standings-19420509.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--mike-riley-s-wild-coaching-ride-has-orgeon-state-cruising-up-the-bcs-standings-19420509.html)
Bo is on the hot seat at Youngstown? Didn't he just make them good again for the first time since Tressell?They lost to Butler... a team that has zero football scholarships. It appears the locals feel his run 2 yrs ago was more about Husker transfers than bo..
They lost to Butler... a team that has zero football scholarships. It appears the locals feel his run 2 yrs ago was more about Husker transfers than bo..Learned a lot I didn't know about scholarship rules, and how those impacted the football programs at decent mid-major basketball schools.
SI even ran an article about the upset: https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/09/06/butler-youngstown-state-upset-fcs-pioneer-league (https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/09/06/butler-youngstown-state-upset-fcs-pioneer-league) They called it the biggest upset ever
Ed Zachery,unless he's popping off behind the scenes.Hard to imagine he would want to be disagreeable after a second chance in an area he grew up in.Tressell is prolly easy enough to get along withBo doesn't like to be told no... I'm guessing the rumors that he's not getting along with the administration after last years negative press about recruiting of a sex offender are probably true, at least based upon what we know at UNL
The OL is atrocious, as I expected. WRs are mediocre, as I expected.Really? 2 of our 4 preseason all-conference picks were Huskers. I'd say the WRs have been the biggest disappointment on the team.
Martinez can mitigate this to some degree with his athleticism, so when he is in we can field some semblance of an offense. When he's out...its going to be ugly.
They are only a disappointment if you expected big things from them.And I think the voting here shows that as a collective, we did.
And I think the voting here shows that as a collective, we did.to be fair.. we've seen our star wr's drop passes game after game.
Steven M. Sipple @HuskerExtraSip 3h3 hours ago (https://twitter.com/HuskerExtraSip/status/1041733104002637824)Not a useful quote without a picture. Were his arms wide open? :57:
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"I know I'm 100-percent bought in," Barry said. He said the team is "this close" from breaking through.
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seems the press is asking..
btw..While we thought they'd be strengths of the offense, they were not all conference as a group.ed zachery, the offense was weak across the board
Sean CallahanVerified account @Sean_Callahan 10m10 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/Sean_Callahan/status/1048255820398514179)Seems well thought out, I'm sure he'll land on his feet.
Source: Running back Greg Bell has left the#Huskers (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Huskers?src=hash):
so, Michigan's opponent hasn't been called for holding in almost 1000 pass attempts?Its saying that Michigan gets the fewest Holding Calls in their favor, vs the number of sacks they register. IOW, Michigan is getting hosed the worst of anybody in the league.
realistically, UNL started their 3rd string QB vs Troy. 3rd string in a new system. The result should not have been a surprise.Yeah, no one has ever had any success with a third string quarterback.
Yeah, no one has ever had any success with a third string quarterback.you might also be the only person to equate UNL's talent across the team (and at that point in a brand new system... 2nd game in...) with OSU's.... OSU at least had 3 QB's on the roster with scholarships. UNL at had 1.
I can only wish that OSU was starting their 3rd string QB this SaturdayI seriously considered picking Nebraska in the upset thread this week.
I'm sure the Buckeyes will throw 70+ passes this Saturday w/o a holding penaltyQuit your sniveling even Michigan fans wait for the Game to start before crying a River
and they were 4 jacking from 6 feet yesterdayseems fair actually...
you might also be the only person to equate UNL's talent across the team (and at that point in a brand new system... 2nd game in...) with OSU's.... OSU at least had 3 QB's on the roster with scholarships. UNL at had 1.Nope. O0
But I'm sure you already knew that...
Fearless,
IF Damien Daniels can find conditioning and strength, while the Davis twins get bigger and stronger the D-line could show improvement. Having a big guy like DaiShon Neal figure it out would be nice.
Frost says he's going to fix the problem of being smaller and weaker in the trenches. I won't doubt him, but doing it by next season is a lot to hope for.
Fearless,start a few mins earlier and you can hear some thoughts on systems and flexibility
Download/stream Jay Foreman's segment on Sharp & Benning today, and FFW to the 7:15 mark and run through 12:30 or so. There is conversation on this issue in regards to the Iowa game, the DL alignment/technique concerns discussed here and in other threads this year in general, and personnel. Good stuff, and encapsulates- in Jay's own special way- my thoughts on our DL this year.
http://www.1620thezone.com/podcasts/ (http://www.1620thezone.com/podcasts/)
start a few mins earlier and you can hear some thoughts on systems and flexibilitygood stuff