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Title: 84 years of AP Polls, 1936-2019, 1,168 polls
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 17, 2020, 04:31:49 PM
Total appearances:

Top-10 Appearances:
Top-5 Appearances:
Appearances at #1:

Title: Re: 84 years of AP Polls, 1936-2019, 1,168 polls
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 17, 2020, 05:12:50 PM
I am adding in how many they were ranked in during 2019 (out of 17):
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on January 17, 2020, 04:31:49 PM
Total appearances:

  • 919 (78.7%), Ohio State all 17
  • 866 (74.1%), Michigan all 17
  • 847 (72.5%), Oklahoma all 17
  • 816 (69.9%), Notre Dame all 17
  • 808 (69.2%), Bama all 17
  • 772 (66.1%), USC 5 of 17
  • 731 (62.6%), Texas 11 of 17
  • 730 (62.5%), Nebraska none
  • 647 (55.4%), Penn State all 17
  • 634 (54.3%), LSU all 17
  • 617 (62.8%), Florida all 17
  • 596 (51.0%), Georgia all 17
  • 583 (49.9%), Auburn all 17
  • 582 (49.8%), Tennessee none
  • 560 (47.9%), Florida State none
  • 532 (45.5%), UCLA none
  • 490 (42.0%), Miami, FL none
  • 454 (38.9%), Washington 7 of 17
  • 452 (38.7%), Clemson all 17
  • 452 (38.7%), aTm 8 of 17
  • 417 (35.7%), Arkansas none
  • 403 (34.5%), Michigan State 5 of 17
  • 393 (33.6%), Wisconsin all 17
  • 335 (28.7%), Iowa all 17
  • 307 (26.3%), Oregon all 17
  • #39, 236 (20.2%), Purdue none
  • #46, 193 (16.5%), Maryland 1 of 17
  • #48, 181 (15.5%), Illinois none
  • #49, 180 (15.4%), Northwestern none
  • #52, 170 (14.6%), Minnesota 10 of 17
  • #73/74/75, 56 (4.8%), Indiana 1 of 17
  • #88/89, 37 (3.2%), Rutgers none
Top-10 Appearances:
  • 639 (54.7%) Ohio State all 17
  • 604 (51.7%) Oklahoma all 17
  • 567 (48.5%) Bama all 17
  • 557 (47.7%) Notre Dame 9 of 17
  • 522 (44.7%) Michigan 4 of 17
  • 518 (44.3%) Nebraska none
  • 473 (40.5%) USC none
  • 450 (38.5%) Texas 2 of 17
  • 383 (32.8%) Penn State 8 of 17
  • 368 (31.5%) Florida State none
  • 341 (29.2%) Florida 15 of 17
  • 321 (27.5%) Tennessee none
  • 320 (27.4%) Louisiana State all 17
  • 309 (26.5%) Georgia all 17
  • 303 (25.9%) Miami, FL none
  • 293 (25.1%) Auburn 7 of 17
  • 222 (19.0%) UCLA none
  • 198 (17.0%) Arkansas none
  • 193 (16.5%) aTm none
  • 182 (15.6%) Michigan State none
  • 179 (15.3%) Clemson all 17
  • 176 (15.1%) Washington none
  • 170 (14.6%) Wisconsin 5 of 17
  • 146 (12.5%) Georgia Tech none
  • 143 (12.2%) Colorado none
  • #29, 123 (10.5%) Iowa none
  • #37, 83 (7.1%) Purdue none
  • #38, 82 (7.0%) Minnesota 3 of 17
  • #40, 79 (6.8%) Maryland none
  • #42, 77 (6.6%) Illinois none
  • #45/46, 73 (6.3%) Northwestern none
  • #74, 15 (1.3%) Indiana none
  • #100/101/102, 2 (0.2%) Rutgers (highest was #7) none
Top-5 Appearances:
  • 418 (35.8%) Oklahoma 7 of 17
  • 411 (35.2%) Bama 14 of 17
  • 387 (33.1%) Ohio State 15 of 17
  • 301 (25.8%) Notre Dame none
  • 296 (25.3%) Nebraska none
  • 291 (24.9%) Michigan none
  • 282 (24.1%) USC none
  • 267 (22.9%) Texas none
  • 243 (20.8%) Florida State none
  • 204 (17.5%) Miami, FL none
  • 184 (15.8%) Florida none
  • 170 (14.6%) Penn State 2 of 17
  • 135 (11.6%) LSU 15 of 17
  • 132 (11.3%) Georgia 13 of 17
  • 130 (11.1%) Auburn none
  • 122 (10.4%) Tennessee none
  • 110 (9.4%) UCLA none
  • 108 (9.2%) Michigan State none
  • 99 (8.5%) Clemson all 17
  • 76 (6.5%) Washington none
  • 75 (6.4%) Army none
  • 73 (6.3%) aTm none
  • 70 (6.0%) Pittsburgh none
  • 70 (6.0%) Oregon 1 of 17
  • 61 (5.2%) Mississippi none
  • #28, 53 (4.5%) Iowa none
  • #29, 49 (4.2%) Wisconsin none
  • #32/33, 46 (3.9%) Minnesota none
  • #34/35, 45 (3.9%) Maryland none
  • #37, 37 (3.2%) Illinois (highest was #2) none
  • #42, 27 (2.3%) Purdue none
  • #44, 25 (2.1%) Northwestern none
  • #65/66, 7 (0.6%) Indiana (highest was #4) none
  • n/a, none Rutgers none
Appearances at #1 (only LSU, Clemson, and Bama were ranked #1 this year):
  • 122 (10.4%) Bama 4 of 17
  • 105 (9.0%) Ohio State
  • 101 (8.6%) Oklahoma
  • 98 (8.4%) Notre Dame
  • 91 (7.8%) USC
  • 72 (6.2%) Florida State
  • 70 (6.0%) Nebraska
  • 68 (5.8%) Miami, FL
  • 45 (3.9%) Texas
  • 41 (3.5%) Florida
  • 38 (3.3%) LSU 8 of 17
  • 34 (2.9%) Michigan
  • 29 (2.5%) Michigan State
  • 27 (2.3%) Army
  • 21 (1.8%) Penn State
  • 21 (1.8%) Pittsburgh
  • 18 (1.5%) Minnesota
  • 18 (1.5%) Tennessee
  • 16 (1.4%) Clemson 5 of 17
  • 15 (1.3%) Georgia
  • 15 (1.3%) Washington
  • 11 (0.9%) Iowa
  • 9 (0.8%) Auburn
  • 8 (0.7%) Oregon
  • 7 (0.6%) Colorado
  • 7 (0.6%) Syracuse
  • 7 (0.6%) aTm
  • 7 (0.6%) UCLA
  • #29, 6 (0.5%) Maryland
  • #30/31/32/33, 5 (0.4%) Northwestern
  • #30/31/32/33, 5 (0.4%) Purdue
  • #41/42/43/44, 1 (0.1%) Wisconsin
  • n/a, none Indiana, Illinois, Rutgers
Title: Re: 84 years of AP Polls, 1936-2019, 1,168 polls
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 17, 2020, 08:04:29 PM
Started in 1936?
Title: Re: 84 years of AP Polls, 1936-2019, 1,168 polls
Post by: Cincydawg on January 20, 2020, 08:50:50 AM
Yeah, didn't rank after bowl games until 1967ish.

I wonder if the difference between top 5 rankings and overall rankings says "something", like how a program might be "pretty solid" versus elite, in a way we don't see with just top five, maybe not.

A team might consistently be ranked, but rarely top 5?  UGA might be like that.
Title: Re: 84 years of AP Polls, 1936-2019, 1,168 polls
Post by: CWSooner on January 20, 2020, 11:19:18 AM
Quote from: Cincydawg on January 20, 2020, 08:50:50 AM
Yeah, didn't rank after bowl games until 1967ish.

I wonder if the difference between top 5 rankings and overall rankings says "something", like how a program might be "pretty solid" versus elite, in a way we don't see with just top five, maybe not.

A team might consistently be ranked, but rarely top 5?  UGA might be like that.
Some additional details from the Font of All Wisdom and Knowledge:

Quote
At the end of the 1947 season the AP released an unofficial post-bowl poll which differed from the regular season final poll.[8] Until the 1968 college football season, the final AP poll of the season was released following the end of the regular season, with the lone exception of the 1965 season. In 1964, Alabama was named the national champion in the final AP Poll following the completion of the regular season, but lost in the Orange Bowl to Texas, leaving Arkansas as the only undefeated, untied team after the Razorbacks defeated Nebraska in the Cotton Bowl Classic. In 1965, the AP's decision to wait to crown its champion paid handsomely, as top-ranked Michigan State lost to UCLA in the Rose Bowl, number two Arkansas lost to LSU in the Cotton Bowl Classic, and fourth-ranked Alabama defeated third-ranked Nebraska in the Orange Bowl, vaulting the Crimson Tide to the top of the AP's final poll (Michigan State was named national champion in the final UPI Coaches Poll, which did not conduct a post-bowl poll).

Beginning in the 1968 season, the post bowl game poll became permanent and the AP championship reflected the bowl game results. The UPI did not follow suit with the coaches' poll until the 1974 season.

Title: Re: 84 years of AP Polls, 1936-2019, 1,168 polls
Post by: FearlessF on January 20, 2020, 11:34:46 AM
Quote from: CWSooner on January 20, 2020, 11:19:18 AM
Some additional details from the Font of All Wisdom and Knowledge:


64 Arkansas bowl game vs Nebraska


RAZORBACKS WIN DEFENSIVE BATTLE WITH LATE DRIVE
Arkansas mounted an 80-yard fourth-quarter drive against a previously impregnable Nebraska defense to down the Huskers, 10-7, in NU's first Cotton Bowl appearance. The Huskers had led most of the way in one of the greatest defensive battles in bowl history.
Arkansas scored first on a 31-yard Tom McKnelly field goal in the first quarter. But sophomore Harry Wilson capped a 69-yard Husker march midway through the second quarter on a 1-yard plunge to give Nebraska a 7-3 halftime lead. NU held that lead until Bobby Burnett finished the Arkansas drive with a three-yard TD run with 4:41 left in the game.

In the fierce defensive struggle, first downs were even at 11, and the Razorbacks held a slim, 176-168 total offense edge.
Title: Re: 84 years of AP Polls, 1936-2019, 1,168 polls
Post by: CWSooner on January 20, 2020, 03:10:14 PM
I wonder what the weather was like in that '64 (season) Cotton Bowl.  When OU played Arkansas in the Cotton Bowl after the 2001 season, it was quite cold and neither team played inspired football.  Sooners won 10-3 and were glad to get off the field and back into the locker room.
Title: Re: 84 years of AP Polls, 1936-2019, 1,168 polls
Post by: utee94 on January 20, 2020, 03:13:45 PM
New Year's Day in Dallas is often cool-to-cold, and rainy.  I've been to 3 Cotton Bowls and only one had decent weather.  
Title: Re: 84 years of AP Polls, 1936-2019, 1,168 polls
Post by: CWSooner on January 20, 2020, 03:25:21 PM
The only Cotton Bowl I've been to had good weather.  It was after the 2003 season.  Ole Miss vs. oSu.  Eli Manning's last college game.
Title: Re: 84 years of AP Polls, 1936-2019, 1,168 polls
Post by: Cincydawg on January 20, 2020, 03:38:42 PM
The early Peach Bowls were infamous for lousy weather, interestingly (and poor attendance, the thing barely survived).

(https://i.imgur.com/ATl5wEZ.jpg)
Title: Re: 84 years of AP Polls, 1936-2019, 1,168 polls
Post by: CWSooner on January 20, 2020, 03:41:57 PM
Ah, yes!  The 1970 Peach Bowl.  ASU 48, UNC 26.  Everybody remembers that one!  ;)
Title: Re: 84 years of AP Polls, 1936-2019, 1,168 polls
Post by: FearlessF on January 20, 2020, 03:49:20 PM
Quote from: CWSooner on January 20, 2020, 03:10:14 PM
I wonder what the weather was like in that '64 (season) Cotton Bowl.  
a heavily clouded afternoon that produced a hard shower immediately after the Arkansas touchdown.

Read more: https://dataomaha.com/huskers/history/game/1965-1-1-arkansas#ixzz6BbaUt2xC

on a gray, muggy day in the Cotton Bowl

a stout south wind


Title: Re: 84 years of AP Polls, 1936-2019, 1,168 polls
Post by: FearlessF on January 20, 2020, 03:54:04 PM
interesting that Arkansas was commonly referred to as the "Porkers"

Arkansas and Nebraska each recieved $212, 000

the Southwest conference allowed Arkansas to keep $60,000 plus about $3,000 in travel expenses

Nebraska was allowed to keep $70,000 plus $5,000 in expenses
Title: Re: 84 years of AP Polls, 1936-2019, 1,168 polls
Post by: CWSooner on January 20, 2020, 03:55:50 PM
7-3 is the absolute pits of a lead to take to the 4th quarter.  You're one fluke away from being down 10-7.  And Murphy's Law says that said if said fluke occurs, it's going to be late in the game when you don't have enough time to answer.  Or that there will be a sudden downpour that will soak the field.
Title: Re: 84 years of AP Polls, 1936-2019, 1,168 polls
Post by: Cincydawg on January 20, 2020, 03:57:12 PM
And 3-7 is the absolute pit of a trail to take into the fourth.  You have shown little aptitude for offense, and if the other team scores again you are likely out of it.
Title: Re: 84 years of AP Polls, 1936-2019, 1,168 polls
Post by: CWSooner on January 20, 2020, 03:58:41 PM
Quote from: FearlessF on January 20, 2020, 03:54:04 PM
interesting that Arkansas was commonly referred to as the "Porkers"

Arkansas and Nebraska each recieved $212, 000

the Southwest conference allowed Arkansas to keep $60,000 plus about $3,000 in travel expenses

Nebraska was allowed to keep $70,000 plus $5,000 in expenses
Arkansas should have seen that differential and joined the Big 8.
What a difference that might have made.
Title: Re: 84 years of AP Polls, 1936-2019, 1,168 polls
Post by: CWSooner on January 20, 2020, 03:59:26 PM
Quote from: Cincydawg on January 20, 2020, 03:57:12 PM
And 3-7 is the absolute pit of a trail to take into the fourth.  You have shown little aptitude for offense, and if the other team scores again you are likely out of it.
You're right!  It's a lousy score either way.