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The Power Five => SEC => Topic started by: Cincydawg on January 04, 2020, 12:46:44 PM
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Wow, that was fast, it's over already. The season of course had good and bad, the South Carolina loss may have kept UGA out of the playoff (which might have been a blessing). The Burrow buzz saw was, well, they sort of held LSU in check for a few minutes. The wins over traditional rivals and Notre Dame were exciting, the ND game was really lit up. The offense seemed to misfire way too often and not close games while the defense was relied upon to hang on late too often.
D'Andre Swift and two OLs are leaving for the draft, Fromm has not said, he had an up and down year obviously. It might hinge on what Tua does. They should be able to reload mostly, but the QB thing could be dicey.
The key unusual games next year are AT Alabama and UVA out of the gate. They get Auburn and Tenn in Athens and go to Columbia twice. They should be "pretty good" even without Fromm, but 10-2 ish. Florida could well be quite good.
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Make that 3 OL's leaving. Solomon Kindley LG declared today. I'm not as worried about OL because that has been a key recruiting strength since Kirby arrived. Swift leaving hurts a bit, but now it's time for some young guys to step up. Hopefully, Zues will be back to 100% by start of next year. Excited to see what this Milton kid can do. If Fromm stays i'll feel better about the offense for next year.
Key Departures so far:
-Andrew Thomas starting LT -declared early
-Isaiah Wilson Starting RT ---declared early
-Solomon Kindley-LG---------declared early
-Rodrigo Blankenship-K-------completed eligibility
-D'Andre Swift 1st team RB (would be surprised if he plays much if at all) (1216 yds rushing, 7 TD's, 24 receptions, 216 yds, 1 TD) declared early
-Brian Herrien 2nd team RB-490 yds, 6 TD, 16 receptions, 1 TD-Declared early
-Lawrence Cager WR (injury) 33 rec, 476 yds, 4 TDS on the season. Senior
-JR Reed (injury) 54 Tackles, 1 INT, 8 passes defended. started all 13 games. (foot injury) Senior
-Tyler Clark starting DL 2nd team all SEC-26 tackels, 2.5 sacks, 8TFL completed eligibility
-Eli Wolf- Grad Transfer TE completed eligibility
-Tyrique McGhee--played in 9 games. Completed eligibility
-Tae Crowder-LB Completed eligibility
-Tyler Simmons WR-Completed eligibility
-Charlie Woerner-TE Completed eligibility
-Justin Young-DL-----Completed eligibility
The offense will definitely have a new look and feel in 2020. We saw the defense for next year against Baylor. Very excited about the defense next year..jury is out on offense. Hopefully, Fromm stays.
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Any year you beat Florida, auburn, ten, and ND, and win a major bowl game should be a good year.
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Bye Jake Fromm State Farm
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They snagged a grad transfer QB from Wake Forest who at least has experience.
That could help.
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He put up good numbers and won at Wake Forest, so he's probably really good.
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He could be better than their other options, we shall see. He might find himself second string though.
The offense will be interesting next year.
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I hope it's still merely "interesting" by the time the WLOCP comes around...
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Yeah, no way to know, this year was a near disaster as it was.
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You're already spoiled and UGA's only been really good for a few years......:72:
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They have been pretty good off and on under Richt, but never good enough. The offense was pretty bad in 2019 in my opinion. The OL was to be world class, and they were not ... At least on the running side.
The WR situation hurt more than I expected. Fromm may go on Day Two.
I would not draft him early.
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If this was 5 years ago, you'd still have Fields, ready to step in.
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Yeah, if. Fields would light them up obviously, but ...
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As bad as UGA's offense appeared to look this year UGA still was slightly ahead in points per game against top 20 defenses than UF. (and that's with a less than stellar group of receivers) UGA played 6 teams with top 20 scoring defenses.
They averaged 23.66 pts per game against those teams. Or +5.1 pts vs. what those teams were given up on average.
UF played 4 teams with top 20 defenses and averaged 23.25 pts per game.OR +5.5 pts vs.what those teams were given up.
I know the opinion out there was that UGA's offense underachieved and there is some truth to that, there is also an opinion that Mullen is a genius and his offense wasn't any better against top 20 defenses.
Just something i found interesting.
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Mullen basically had to scrap the entire running game, because the green OL could not run block AT ALL. To go 11-2, knowing you're going to be one-dimensional before each game is pretty good.
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You know this, but your top 20 defense cutoff is arbitrary and there's a big difference between the top of that list and the bottom of it. Georgia wound up #1 in total defense, thanks to Clemson having to deal with LSU.
So the Gators faced the #1, 14, 15, 17, and 23rd-ranked teams in total defense.
Georgia dealt with the #7, 12, 14, 15, 17 and 20th-ranked Ds.
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So what's tougher, 7th and 12th or 1st overall? Hell if I know.
I do know UGA had Fromm and Swift and a great OL, while UF had the backup QB, Perine, and an OL that could merely do half their job (pass block).
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And they wound up with the same records.
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Mullen basically had to scrap the entire running game, because the green OL could not run block AT ALL. To go 11-2, knowing you're going to be one-dimensional before each game is pretty good.
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You know this, but your top 20 defense cutoff is arbitrary and there's a big difference between the top of that list and the bottom of it. Georgia wound up #1 in total defense, thanks to Clemson having to deal with LSU.
So the Gators faced the #1, 14, 15, 17, and 23rd-ranked teams in total defense.
Georgia dealt with the #7, 12, 14, 15, 17 and 20th-ranked Ds.
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So what's tougher, 7th and 12th or 1st overall? Hell if I know.
I do know UGA had Fromm and Swift and a great OL, while UF had the backup QB, Perine, and an OL that could merely do half their job (pass block).
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And they wound up with the same records.
I'm not saying that Mullen isn't a good coach as much as i'm saying that UGA's offensive woes this year according to the folks who talk about such things is a little overblown especially considering the deficiency this year at WR and TE. Cager, Pickens (freshman) and Blaylock (freshman) were nice additions, but Cager was unavailable in all or parts of 7 games this year. (missed 2nd half of South Carolina, out vs Kentucky, most of the Auburn game, all of Texas A&M, all of Georgia Tech, LSU and Baylor) Teams were loading the box all year because they didn't respect our downfield passing attack.
Blaylock went down with a torn ACL in the SECC, Pickens was suspended 1st half, Cager was done for the season and Swift was a non-factor due to a shoulder injury in both the SECC game as well as the bowl game. (I was amazed our D only allowed 37 to LSU in that game with the attrition we had on the offensive side of the ball) Going 12-2 with that offense was a dang miracle in my opinion. Luckily our D was lights out.
Also, Franks getting hurt was the best thing to happen to UF this year. Trask was better so i take the backup QB excuse with a grain of salt. Your OLine, though, sure I can see that. So we can agree that both of our teams were dealing with a deficiency. Oline for UF, WR/TE for UGA.
Hell, UGA lost their top 6 (I believe) pass catchers from a year ago. That's hard to replace.
UF i think loses a good portion of WR production this year, as well, so it'll be interesting to see if they feel the effects of that next year. Not really sure how they've recruited in that area. UGA loses at least 3 starters on the Oline, plus Cade Mays who transferred to UT. We kind of saw what next year's oline will look like in the bowl game.
UGA had to deal with LSU, as well. How are 12-2 and 11-2 the same record?
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So, I think 2020 hinges on the QB situation (duh). If the WF comes in and plays like Joe Burrow (OK, I mean just some sort of pale imitation of same), the Dawgs should be very very good. The D is loaded up, as usual. The OL will be sketchy, but still solid I think. The WR position should improve. They probably have some RBs somewhere.
Place kicker might lose them a game somewhere.
9/07 – Virginia Cavaliers (https://alumni.uga.edu/2019/12/23/previewing-the-2020-uga-football-schedule/#uva)
9/12 – ETSU Buccaneers (https://alumni.uga.edu/2019/12/23/previewing-the-2020-uga-football-schedule/#etsu)
9/19 – Alabama Crimson Tide (https://alumni.uga.edu/2019/12/23/previewing-the-2020-uga-football-schedule/#ua)
9/26 – ULM Warhawks (https://alumni.uga.edu/2019/12/23/previewing-the-2020-uga-football-schedule/#ulm)
10/3 – Vanderbilt Commodores (https://alumni.uga.edu/2019/12/23/previewing-the-2020-uga-football-schedule/#vu)
10/10 – Auburn Tigers (https://alumni.uga.edu/2019/12/23/previewing-the-2020-uga-football-schedule/#au)
10/17 – Missouri Tigers (https://alumni.uga.edu/2019/12/23/previewing-the-2020-uga-football-schedule/#um)
10/24 – BYE WEEK
10/31 –Florida Gators (https://alumni.uga.edu/2019/12/23/previewing-the-2020-uga-football-schedule/#uf)
11/7 – South Carolina Gamecocks (https://alumni.uga.edu/2019/12/23/previewing-the-2020-uga-football-schedule/#usc)
11/14 – Tennessee Volunteers (https://alumni.uga.edu/2019/12/23/previewing-the-2020-uga-football-schedule/#ut)
11/21 – Kentucky Wildcats (https://alumni.uga.edu/2019/12/23/previewing-the-2020-uga-football-schedule/#uk)
11/28 – Georgia Tech (https://alumni.uga.edu/2019/12/23/previewing-the-2020-uga-football-schedule/#gt)
The season probably comes down to Florida, again. Everyone else but Bama look winnable, with Auburn and South Carolina as possible stumbles as well.
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UGA had to deal with LSU, as well. How are 12-2 and 11-2 the same record?
Are y'all talking about defenses faced here? Having trouble following the conversation.
There is only mild comparison between the defense Florida faced and the defense UGA faced as far as LSU goes. LSU got Florida when multiple guys were still out hurt from the UT game, and even the guys who played had various problems with fundamentals for a long portion of the season.
I heard Cole Kubelic says after the title game that Aranda had told him a few games into the season that the players just couldn't execute the scheme he'd drawn up for the season and he was having to go back to the drawing board in-season. That would seem almost an outrageous claim, especially for someone as respected as Aranda, except it does match what we saw in a lot of ways.
By the time UGA ran into LSU, all the starters were available and healthy, Chaisson had started playing up to his blue chip potential as an edge rusher, and guys generally seemed to understand their roles better and tackling had much improved. I'm not knocking Florida, there were parts of that game was that just Florida making plays. I'm just saying UGA got a much tougher defense in the same opponent than Florida did. You would not see the LSU defense that played Florida hold OU and Clemson to those point totals.
All that said....UGA really did have their chances at times in that game, especially early. They just couldn't hit them. Florida did.
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The defense against UGA this season was "simple", stop the run and take your chances.
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9/19 – Alabama Crimson Tide (https://alumni.uga.edu/2019/12/23/previewing-the-2020-uga-football-schedule/#ua)
10/10 – Auburn Tigers (https://alumni.uga.edu/2019/12/23/previewing-the-2020-uga-football-schedule/#au)
10/31 – Florida Gators
(https://alumni.uga.edu/2019/12/23/previewing-the-2020-uga-football-schedule/#uf)
11/7 – @ South Carolina Gamecocks (https://alumni.uga.edu/2019/12/23/previewing-the-2020-uga-football-schedule/#usc)
So, this comes down I think to a four game season, presuming the Dawgs are at least "competitive and pretty good". Yes, they certainly could get upset by Tennessee or somebody, but this looks like the games "in doubt" to me, adding USCe to the mix is perhaps dubious.
Beating Alabama would not be expected of course, and a win there COULD lead to the "Big Head" and some upset somewhere. Auburn is in Athens, but that series has an odd habit of the home team's losing. I expect Florida to be "on par" with UGA, give or take.
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Has UGA hit that 80%(ish) threshold with Alabama and Ohio State where around 80% of their players are blue chips, 4-5 star guys?
I thought I read that somewhere.
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They have to be close. I think UGA signed more 5 stars in the past 4 years than anyone, but they had a few transfer out.
They are talent loaded.
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I am surprised Kirby retained the OC. Some UGA guys I've seen want an overhaul on that side of the ball. I don't really blame them. I'm not against a more traditional pro-style attack per se, but it's also unlikely to maximize all the talent at the college level.
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https://georgiadogs.com/news/2020/1/17/football-reorganizes-coaches-names-todd-monken-offensive-coordinator.aspx (https://georgiadogs.com/news/2020/1/17/football-reorganizes-coaches-names-todd-monken-offensive-coordinator.aspx)
ATHENS, Ga. --- Georgia head football coach Kirby Smart (https://georgiadogs.com/coaches.aspx?rc=2592) has reorganized his offensive staff, naming Todd Monken (https://georgiadogs.com/coaches.aspx?rc=2761) as offensive coordinator. James Coley (https://georgiadogs.com/coaches.aspx?rc=2593) will remain on staff and serve as assistant head coach.
Monken, a native of Wheaton, Ill., is coming off one season as the Cleveland Browns' offensive coordinator. Prior to that, Monken had experience as the offensive coordinator for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for three years and for three seasons as head coach at Southern Mississippi, among other stops.
"We are excited to add Todd to our staff," Smart said. "He has a history of establishing explosive offenses at each and every stop in his impressive career in both the National Football League and at major college football programs.
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Oh, I missed that. I like Todd Monken. He was LSU's WR coach and passing game coordinator for a while, including the 2006 year with Jamarcus Russell and the crazy good trio of Dwayne Bowe, Early Doucet, and Craig Davis. And a young Brandon Lafell that year as well. He was an excellent receivers coach and I think he's been fairly well respected in the NFL for a while now too, if not overly successful.
I want to say he was a good recruiter, but it's hard to remember who he was credited with that far back. I hope he does well there. I know he was well liked in Baton Rouge by the brass, as well as the players and coaches.
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https://247sports.com/college/georgia/LongFormArticle/National-Signing-Day-2020-Georgia-Bulldogs-Football-Recruiting-commit-list-rankings-Broderick-Jones-143142792/?fbclid=IwAR19q0pYhJAy_HoYxbc6xOkMjeoxEdy1_jQ6nrEP-mbZdlcsmcLBxgwj-iA
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Interesting story in the Birmingham News yesterday:
Referee Admission (https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2020/02/georgia-alabama-title-game-head-ref-admits-big-mistake-made-we-had-a-miss.html)
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UGA hired the Bama strength coach away, which apparently is more interestingly than it might seem, or not.