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Title: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: longhorn320 on December 16, 2019, 10:51:00 AM
That was fast

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/texas-longhorns/2019/12/15/chris-ash-as-texas-dc-was-predictable-what-are-longhorns-getting-in-the-ex-ohio-state-dc-and-rutgers-coach/ (https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/texas-longhorns/2019/12/15/chris-ash-as-texas-dc-was-predictable-what-are-longhorns-getting-in-the-ex-ohio-state-dc-and-rutgers-coach/)
Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: Mr Tulip on December 16, 2019, 11:34:20 AM
I approve of this hire! It does, however, ironically leave Texas a few DTs light. Shouldn't be a large issue though.

I appreciated Todd Orlando's schemes. His designs were wonderful to watch, but overall too complex. He was undone, though no real fault of his own, by an unprecedented amount of injuries that necessitated a reshuffling of the line up. Players that had been taught exactly what to do under his Swiss Watch machine were put in unfamiliar roles. They could not re-learn their assignments weekly, and the machine predictably went boing.

Ash seems to be more direct, with a scheme that will rely more on Texas' straight up talent than intricate player movements and responsibilities.
Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: utee94 on December 16, 2019, 04:46:33 PM
I haven't seen consistently good defense in Austin since Greg Robinson was around.  I'll remain skeptical until proven otherwise.  But here's hoping!
Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 16, 2019, 05:10:05 PM
His defenses were OK in Madison, but I've been happy with the upgrades since he left to follow BB at Arky (for one year). 

His defenses were OK at OSU too, but I think OSU is happy with the upgrades since he left for Rutgers.

In other words, he's OK. You'll see a 4-3 in Austin with him.
Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: utee94 on December 16, 2019, 05:45:34 PM
"OK" isn't anywhere near good enough in the best offensive league in the country.

I anticipate further disappointment.
Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: longhorn320 on December 16, 2019, 06:33:10 PM
well as my daddy used to say

you wouldnt be happy with a ham under one arm and a loaf of bread under the other
Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: utee94 on December 16, 2019, 06:50:37 PM
It's a funny saying but it's pretty much bulljive in this discussion.

Because, quite simply, I'll he happy with a good defense.  

Baylor has one.  

Why shouldn't Texas?


Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: longhorn320 on December 16, 2019, 08:13:13 PM
It's a funny saying but it's pretty much bulljive in this discussion.

Because, quite simply, I'll he happy with a good defense. 

Baylor has one. 

Why shouldn't Texas?



and maybe we will

think of it this way theres an excellent chance that our def will be improved over

this year

time to get fired up for the Utes
Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: longhorn320 on December 16, 2019, 08:17:00 PM
It's a funny saying but it's pretty much bulljive in this discussion.





made me think of this


 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0j2dVuhr6s)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXSLcYQHqFQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXSLcYQHqFQ)
Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: CWSooner on December 16, 2019, 08:47:07 PM
Apparently, Graham Harrell is staying at USC.

https://www.hookem.com/2019/12/16/graham-harrell-staying-usc-texas-coach-tom-herman-continues-search/ (https://www.hookem.com/2019/12/16/graham-harrell-staying-usc-texas-coach-tom-herman-continues-search/)
Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: FearlessF on December 16, 2019, 10:33:22 PM
might want to call the guy at LSU
Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: CWSooner on December 16, 2019, 10:53:19 PM
Get him quickly!
Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: Mr Tulip on December 17, 2019, 09:26:34 AM
When Todd Orlando was new and had all year to implement his schemes with a contiguous set of players, he had a statistically good defense. The rotations and blitz packages were novel. It worked.

After a year of film, and raw players, the opposing coaches found major tendencies and predictabilities. They showed their offenses how to counter those tendencies. Once the raw players started suffering injuries (at a ruinous pace), even the token resistatnce offered became less and less.

What I'm saying is that it's possible to field a good defense once in awhile. Doing it consistently requires constant innovation and updating. Otherwise, it requires a new coach.

Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 17, 2019, 09:35:14 AM
Does Herman really need a true OC for his team? He calls the plays, no?
Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: utee94 on December 17, 2019, 09:36:21 AM
TCU has had consistently good defenses since joining. Especially given the offenses they face yearly. Sure, they have a down year here and there, but they're also doing it with a lot of players that Texas wouldn't bother to recruit.

I expect that kind of consistency at Texas.  If TCU can do it, then Texas can do it.

Expecting defense that is consistently at the level of TCU, at The University of Texas, isn't too much to ask.  It's just not.  And it is my expectation.  Any and every time we don't manage it, I am disappointed.

Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: CWSooner on December 17, 2019, 01:48:04 PM
TCU has had consistently good defenses since joining. Especially given the offenses they face yearly. Sure, they have a down year here and there, but they're also doing it with a lot of players that Texas wouldn't bother to recruit.

I expect that kind of consistency at Texas.  If TCU can do it, then Texas can do it.

Expecting defense that is consistently at the level of TCU, at The University of Texas, isn't too much to ask.  It's just not.  And it is my expectation.  Any and every time we don't manage it, I am disappointed.
This, with "Oklahoma" instead of "Texas."
In a conference with high-powered, up-tempo offenses, the defensive stats are going to suffer.  But, from my perspective, OU should at a bare minimum have one of the top 2 or 3 defenses in the Big 12.  And it seems to me that UT should have a similar expectation.
And this year OU did, although Brown County doesn't know it.  #1 in the conference in total defense, #2 behind Baylor in scoring defense.
Sorry for the interjection.  Back to the Chris Ash discussion.
Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: CWSooner on December 18, 2019, 07:58:10 PM
Back to Tom Herman, here's some fun and games with the double-bird.

https://mobile.twitter.com/dolphlong/status/1207304977988964352 (https://mobile.twitter.com/dolphlong/status/1207304977988964352)
Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: Gigem on December 18, 2019, 08:16:49 PM
Not surprised.  Didn’t he make fun of a player from an opposing team awhile back?  
Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: longhorn320 on December 18, 2019, 09:20:44 PM
time to impeach?
Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: utee94 on December 18, 2019, 09:39:53 PM
Not surprised.  Didn’t he make fun of a player from an opposing team awhile back? 

Yup.  His actions reminded me a lot of this move:

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Sutfr-mK8yUS1Ajk6w32jMu8F38=/0x0:1000x549/920x613/filters:focal(420x195:580x355):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/56710161/fingers.0.jpg)


Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: BrownCounty on December 19, 2019, 08:58:09 AM
Not surprised.  Didn’t he make fun of a player from an opposing team awhile back? 

Dammit Herman.  More "not Texas standard" stuff.  And here we go with another year.  I guess for appearances sake, we have to let some more time pass between Herman's firing and CDC upping his contract.
Title: Re: Horns Hire Chris Ash for DC
Post by: Mr Tulip on December 19, 2019, 09:09:25 AM
Won't somebody please think of the children????!!!111one!!!