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Title: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama 35, #14 Michigan 16 (Postgame)
Post by: Temp430 on December 09, 2019, 07:17:20 AM
When: Jan 1st, 1 PM
Where: Orlando, FL
TV:  TBA
Line: Alabama by 7


Title: Re: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3) Vrbo Citrus Bowl Game Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on December 09, 2019, 07:36:08 AM
Definitely will be some Bammer players sitting out, and this is a quality chance for some Michigan guys (Patterson, Collins) to look good to the NFL
Title: Re: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3) Vrbo Citrus Bowl Game Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 09, 2019, 07:42:26 AM
Last time it was 41-14 Bama
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: ELA on December 09, 2019, 09:39:12 AM
Definitely will be some Bammer players sitting out, and this is a quality chance for some Michigan guys (Patterson, Collins) to look good to the NFL
They were saying the same on the Athletic's UM/MSU podcast.  That a bunch of UM guys who may have sat out the Holiday Bowl vs. Washington or Gator Bowl vs. Kentucky, might be now playing to put some film out there against Alabama.
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: FearlessF on December 09, 2019, 09:51:40 AM
does Harbaugh seem excited about the opportunity and challenge?
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 12, 2019, 01:30:43 PM
Cringiest.
Analogy.
Ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTNTkf7grNk&t=961s
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: ELA on December 20, 2019, 04:59:11 PM


CITRUS BOWL
#14 Michigan Wolverines (9-3) vs. #13 Alabama Crimson Tide (9-3)
January 1 @ 1:00 - Orlando, FL - ABC
Does Alabama care?  That's seemingly the only question anyone is asking.  It's tough to say.  Since Saban got things rolling in his second year in Tuscaloosa, the Crimson Tide have only been playing in a bowl game without the national title in play three times.  They lost twice, and the other time the had multiple players say it was only Michigan State players flexing and talking crap to them before the game that got them ready to go.  This is quite possibly the worst Alabama team since Saban's first year.  It's only the second time (2010 being the other) that the Tide picked up multiple regular season losses.  That 2010 team played 8 ranked teams, and beat 5 of them, by an average of 22.4, and had the Cam Newton national title team dead to rights, before a Mark Ingram fumble led to a massive collapse.  This version of the Tide hasn't beaten anyone with a pulse, their best win being over a 7-5 Texas A&M team, and that was when they still had Tua.  A decade ago?  This game is outstanding, now, you just hope these teams care.  There are a couple of reasons to be optimistic.  First, Nick Saban has not hidden his disdain for Jim Harbaugh, dating back to at least the whole satellite camp thing.  And while both have that midwest mentality, Saban would lock his team in the facility all week if he was allowed, and seems to detest any outside human interaction, while Harbaugh trots his team across Europe and gives quirky quotes.  Second, these are two programs that absolutely pride themselves on defense, that's their identity.  Yet, Alabama gave up 94 points in their two losses, and gave up 23 to South Carolina, 31 to Ole Miss, 28 to Texas A&M.  The only teams this Crimson Tide defense shut down were Duke, New Mexico State, Southern Miss, Tennessee, Arkansas, Mississippi State and Western Carolina.  For their part, Michigan's defense had another year of getting shredded by Ohio State, who has scored 118 points in their last two games.  Last year, Michigan followed the Ohio State bombing by letting Florida put up 41 on them.  If they go another year of looking good all year, then turning into a sieve in the final two games, the talk will really heat up.  Finally, you've got Josh Gattis, with all the early season drama of who was the key to Bama's historic 2018 offense.  You know he wants to show his old boss he should have paid up to hold onto him.  I know there's very little analysis in this breakdown, but this is the ultimate "where are their heads at" game, so trying to look beyond those intangibles seems pointless.  I think it's close, and when Alabama and Michigan are playing a close game into the 4th quarter on New Years Day, maybe it'll feel like this would have felt a decade ago.
ALABAMA 30, MICHIGAN 27

Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: Cincydawg on December 20, 2019, 06:26:32 PM
Excellent analysis, I think, where are their heads?  
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: bayareabadger on December 20, 2019, 06:43:28 PM
I feel like this bowl will only produce a range of narratives, most of which are annoying. 
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: CWSooner on December 20, 2019, 08:52:03 PM
I feel like this bowl will only produce a range of narratives, most of which are annoying.
I can think of two.
Michigan wins: Bama wasn't interested in the game after two late-season disappointments.
Bama wins: Bama showed its character after two late-season disappointments.
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: Abba on December 21, 2019, 12:32:18 PM
Oh come on.  You know if Michigan wins, there will be some talking head telling us that the Bama dynasty is over.  None of us will believe that, but it will definitely be a narrative.
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: TyphonInc on December 21, 2019, 03:18:54 PM
Oh come on.  You know if Michigan wins, there will be some talking head telling us that the Bama dynasty is over.  None of us will believe that, but it will definitely be a narrative.

I don't see it.
If Alabama shows up it's a 42-10 type whipping. 
If TTUN pulls the upset, the story will be how valuable Tau was, how 'bama had checked out, and how 'bama is reloading to knock a Joe Burrow-less Tigers next year, with the #2 recruiting class and the #1 QB. I don't think anyone will claim the dynasty is over. 
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: TyphonInc on December 21, 2019, 03:19:28 PM
Cringiest.
Analogy.
Ever.
O M Goodness.
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: Riffraft on December 21, 2019, 03:29:28 PM
Oh come on.  You know if Michigan wins, there will be some talking head telling us that the Bama dynasty is over.  None of us will believe that, but it will definitely be a narrative.
Sorry but I don't see that as the narrative, it will definitely be full of excuse as to why Alabama lost the game. 
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: Mdot21 on December 22, 2019, 06:55:44 PM
YAWN.
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on December 22, 2019, 07:38:05 PM
Eh, people are already saying Bama is finished.  That's an awful lot of talent to just start stinking.
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As for the Citrus Bowl this year, yes, some Bama players are sitting out.  Yes, UM might not get their top-notch, most-motivated effort - that's certainly possible.  But if you're a UM fan or coach or player - YOU DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO GET THE WIN!  Take advantage of every real help and any and all perceived slights or gifts or whatever it takes, but win the damn game!
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: Mdot21 on December 22, 2019, 07:56:33 PM
Eh, people are already saying Bama is finished.  That's an awful lot of talent to just start stinking.
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As for the Citrus Bowl this year, yes, some Bama players are sitting out.  Yes, UM might not get their top-notch, most-motivated effort - that's certainly possible.  But if you're a UM fan or coach or player - YOU DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO GET THE WIN!  Take advantage of every real help and any and all perceived slights or gifts or whatever it takes, but win the damn game!
Alabama fans probably don't care about this game as the expectation is playoffs or bust there.

Michigan fans are too sick over getting humiliated AGAIN at the hands of Ohio State to even care. At least that's where I am at. Harbaugh can win this and I still won't give a rats ass, because the guy can't win any games that actually matter.
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: CWSooner on December 22, 2019, 07:57:47 PM
Yep.  Win the damn game.

Bama has been on a perhaps unprecedented run of success.  If you have a chance to play them when they are at less than their best, you must go all out to take advantage of that fact.

Same applies to any helmet team on a great run.  If you can catch them while they are down, kick 'em hard!  That win will shine in your record book forever, and there won't be any asterisk attached to the score.
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: MichiFan87 on December 22, 2019, 10:24:07 PM
I have no idea how this game is going to go. It does appear that Michigan won't be without any important players for a change (by choice, injury, or any other reason), while Alabama will be without several future pros, though apparently fewer than expected.... For Michigan, if anything, the best players should be particularly motivated to prove themselves against a team with so many future pros.

Hopefully the offense playcalling will be aggressive since there's nothing to lose by opening up the playbook in a game like this.

On defense it's going to be difficult to slow them down with an undersized DLine while also covering their great receivers. Their best chance is to get some pressure on their QB and force some turnovers like Auburn did.

They're going to have to do well in special teams, too, where they should have an advantage except Alabama has arguably the best returner in the country, so they should just kick it through the endzone and punt it to the sideline to avoid any big plays there.

I can see any outcome from a 30 point loss to a 10 point win but am expecting a loss by 1 or 2 TDs.
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 29, 2019, 10:36:22 AM
Bump.

So, we got some more games coming up.
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: Cincydawg on December 29, 2019, 10:58:49 AM
UGA left literally half its team back home.  Alabama could be in similar straits, don't know.

J.R. Reed, their key safety, now says he's not playing.  Oddly enough, D'Andre Swift apparently is.  I figured he was gone for sure being a running back.

https://withthefirstpick.com/2019/11/22/2020-nfl-draft-dandre-swift-perfect-weapon-nfl/ (https://withthefirstpick.com/2019/11/22/2020-nfl-draft-dandre-swift-perfect-weapon-nfl/)

Currently ranked as the top running back on this writer’s big board, Swift is an elite athlete with the ability to stay on all three downs on the field. At 5-9, Swift is not small, as he is also 215 pounds and has shown the ability to break tackles as well. He has already surpassed 1,000 yards for the second straight year and has elite film to boot.
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: Mdot21 on December 29, 2019, 12:05:44 PM
Saban vs Harbaugh in a battle of wits? Lmao. Saban with almost a month to prepare vs a guy that I’m not even sure can spell his own name? Lmao.

Alabama by a lot. If Bama doesn’t win by about 30 I’ll be shocked.
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: rolltidefan on December 31, 2019, 12:42:40 PM
been out for a while with real world stuff. haven't had the time to properly trash talk you mich foes. you guys suck. :)

roll tide, good luck and here's to a good game.
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: utee94 on December 31, 2019, 02:16:18 PM
GO BLUE! 
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama (10-2) vs. #14 Michigan (9-3)
Post by: Cincydawg on December 31, 2019, 02:31:31 PM
Just back from a nice walk with the spouse.  It's about 50°F with very clear blue skies and sun, light wind.  We went to the botanical garden and then through the park.

Being outside and talking is a good thing.  I still see kids out walking staring at their phones.

On the way back, we heard a sharp bang and discovered a car had hit a dog that ran across the street unleashed.  The driver stopped and reversed blocking traffic and about five people were there, two lifted the dog into his car to take him to the e-vet a mile away.  Another dog apparently had run loose as well and people were trying to find him, no idea how the dog got out, or whose it was.  It was a surprisingly loud bang and we were 100 feet away when it happened, and people started shouting, I was at first wondering if it was a gun shot, or that a car hit a human.
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama 35, #14 Michigan 16 (Postgame)
Post by: Temp430 on January 02, 2020, 07:06:15 AM
Michigan ran the ball well in the first half.  And given that success decided to abandon the run for the most part in the second in favor of over thrown long pass plays.  
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama 35, #14 Michigan 16 (Postgame)
Post by: FearlessF on January 02, 2020, 01:41:01 PM
Patterson did not have a great game
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama 35, #14 Michigan 16 (Postgame)
Post by: SuperMario on January 02, 2020, 02:14:26 PM
Patterson did not have a great career

FIFY
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama 35, #14 Michigan 16 (Postgame)
Post by: Cincydawg on January 02, 2020, 03:07:21 PM
What's next for Michigan?
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama 35, #14 Michigan 16 (Postgame)
Post by: FearlessF on January 02, 2020, 09:16:57 PM
go back to practice, dream up a way, anyway, to beat the Buckeyes

bring Belichick and Sean Peyton in for a week to learn how to cheat properly
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama 35, #14 Michigan 16 (Postgame)
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 02, 2020, 11:04:32 PM
Forget about Ohio St.  Figure out a way to win the other 11 games, and he'd be fine.
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama 35, #14 Michigan 16 (Postgame)
Post by: Cincydawg on January 03, 2020, 06:30:55 AM
I suspect 11-1 with another loss in Columbus would not be "fine".  It' might be "well, OK" IFF they win the conference and make the playoff.
Title: Re: Citrus Bowl: #13 Alabama 35, #14 Michigan 16 (Postgame)
Post by: FearlessF on January 03, 2020, 10:32:55 AM
Forget about Ohio St.  Figure out a way to win the other 11 games, and he'd be fine.
I believe your just stirring the pot