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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: ELA on November 30, 2019, 08:19:01 PM

Title: Maryland (1-8, 3-9) at Michigan State (4-5, 6-6) Post Game
Post by: ELA on November 30, 2019, 08:19:01 PM
That was absolutely awful, and I kind of wonder how John L. Smith failed to make bowls.  6-6 football looks so terrible.
Title: Re: Maryland (1-8, 3-9) at Michigan State (4-5, 6-6) Post Game
Post by: ELA on November 30, 2019, 08:21:07 PM
Glad we are back where we were when Dantonio was hired

https://twitter.com/chrissolari/status/1200930519552118784?s=19
Title: Re: Maryland (1-8, 3-9) at Michigan State (4-5, 6-6) Post Game
Post by: mcwterps1 on November 30, 2019, 11:13:32 PM
Hey. Good for you guys.

At least you get practice time for the younger players. 

B1G gets another in a bowl game....the true goal. 
Title: Re: Maryland (1-8, 3-9) at Michigan State (4-5, 6-6) Post Game
Post by: bayareabadger on November 30, 2019, 11:30:00 PM
Glad we are back where we were when Dantonio was hired

https://twitter.com/chrissolari/status/1200930519552118784?s=19
College football remains majestically static. 
Title: Re: Maryland (1-8, 3-9) at Michigan State (4-5, 6-6) Post Game
Post by: CWSooner on November 30, 2019, 11:53:45 PM
College football remains majestically static.
I don't know about that.  Bama's probably not in the CFP, so there's some change.
Minnesota went 10-2.
Utah looks like the best team in the Pac-12.
Florida State is terrible.
Miami is even more terrible than FSU.
In 9 years (counting this one), USC has only made the Pac-12 CCG twice.

Not so much change with Michigan State and Maryland, sure.
Title: Re: Maryland (1-8, 3-9) at Michigan State (4-5, 6-6) Post Game
Post by: Cincydawg on December 01, 2019, 07:40:16 AM
Texas and Nebraska are so so at best.  Tennessee did finish 7-5, but that is down for the program (up in recent history).  LSU is up and Bama is down.

Cincinnati has had a nice season, along with Memphis and BSU.  Navy is pretty good.  Notre Dame is decent, but not great.  Of the Blue Bloods and near Blue Bloods, a fair number are headed to minor bowl games, or none at all.

Title: Re: Maryland (1-8, 3-9) at Michigan State (4-5, 6-6) Post Game
Post by: bayareabadger on December 01, 2019, 07:49:01 AM
I don't know about that.  Bama's probably not in the CFP, so there's some change.
Minnesota went 10-2.
Utah looks like the best team in the Pac-12.
Florida State is terrible.
Miami is even more terrible than FSU.
In 9 years (counting this one), USC has only made the Pac-12 CCG twice.

Not so much change with Michigan State and Maryland, sure.
I meant more in an ashes to ashes, dust to dust way. There are ups and downs, but teams tend to return to level. Dantonio won double digit games six times in eight years, but it proved not to necessarily be a longstanding shift, but a high that gave way to more standard outcomes. I think some of the other stuff is a case of the longer view.

Bama missing the playoff is a case of "it was going to happen at some point." They're all of 10-2 and we won't hear about them and the playoffs because a backup QB lost a shootout. They're still very Bama. Minnesota was a 9-win team all of three years ago. Utah has long been good, and likely returns to being just decent P5 good soon enough. FSU, that one is weird, though I think they were more vulnerable to change than some. I think Miami is more about some baseline issues they used to paper over when South Florida was a little more remote. Dips at USC are common, and the Carroll era was more outlier than norm. 

A wonderful tapestry we have here.
Title: Re: Maryland (1-8, 3-9) at Michigan State (4-5, 6-6) Post Game
Post by: Cincydawg on December 01, 2019, 08:15:11 AM
Of the eight major programs (IMHO):

Bama Ohio State are clearly "up" with their traditional level of success.  Oklahoma is doing quite well.

Michigan is "meh", not bad, but not where they expected to be, same with Notre Dame.

Nebraska, Texas, USC are clearly down, USC has a pulse.

If we go to the "next level", FSU and Miami are way down.  Penn State is decent.  Tennessee is down, a slight pulse there.  LSU is up, UGA is about normal.  

Title: Re: Maryland (1-8, 3-9) at Michigan State (4-5, 6-6) Post Game
Post by: CWSooner on December 01, 2019, 06:15:49 PM
I'd say that UGA is up a notch if we consider the 50 years prior to Kirby Smart's arrival to be the historical norm, which seems to have averaged 8-4-ish seasons, with significant ups and downs from that level.