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Title: Minnestota (1-5, 4-5) at Michigan (4-2, 7-2) Post Game
Post by: Temp430 on October 30, 2017, 08:21:15 AM
Michigan hosts the Golden Gophers in another night game Saturday, 7:30 PM FOX.  The game is remarkable in that Michigan will be giving red-shirt freshman Brandon Peters the first start of his career.    Winner gets Yost's brown jug.
Title: Re: Minnestota (1-4, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 6-2) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 30, 2017, 10:27:35 AM
Two things. 

Why is this a night game. And this is Peters' first true test. I want to see how he responds to a tiny bit of success and how he plays now that he knows he's "the guy" and all the pressure and expectation are on him. I thought he did pretty well against Rutgers. Wasn't amazing, wasn't bad. What he was was competent- light years ahead of O'Korn who was just stinking up the joint. Pretty good in his first real playing time. He shows up big against Minnesota- well Michgan might have a real QB for the first time since Rudock.
Title: Re: Minnestota (1-4, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 6-2) Game Week
Post by: fezzador on October 30, 2017, 10:55:57 AM
Best QB since Rudock?

That's both impressive and sad at the same time. 

Rudock was decent at Iowa but hardly set the world on fire there.  He did a little better at Michigan but again, Harbaugh didn't exactly work miracles with him. 
Title: Re: Minnestota (1-4, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 6-2) Game Week
Post by: HailHailMSP on October 30, 2017, 11:05:15 AM
Peters is competent. He isnt the savior, not this year at least. But in his drops, and looking off receivers, and pocket presence, he looks like a legitimate B1G qb. Both Speight and O'Korn never had that feel. 

This game will actually be a real test for him. The gopher defense is legit. The gopher QB play is much worse than Michigan's situation right now. That spells disaster at night against Don Brown's defense. 
Title: Re: Minnestota (1-4, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 6-2) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 30, 2017, 11:08:39 AM
Best QB since Rudock?

That's both impressive and sad at the same time.  

Rudock was decent at Iowa but hardly set the world on fire there.  He did a little better at Michigan but again, Harbaugh didn't exactly work miracles with him.
Rudock was efficient and by the end of the year he was a smooth operator in that offense. Rudock got drafted in the 6th round and he's hung around in the NFL as the back up for the Detroit Lions. I'd say that's a minor miracle of a turnaround. After getting the boot from Feretnz and then struggling his first few weeks at Michgan, who in the hell would've thought the kid would be drafted by the NFL? Not me.

And it is sad. Before that 1 year of Rudock Michigan hasn't had a real life QB since Henne in 2007. Basically 9 out of the last 10 years they haven't had a legitimate QB. Here's to hoping Peters can buck that trend.
Title: Re: Minnestota (1-4, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 6-2) Game Week
Post by: fezzador on October 30, 2017, 11:16:05 AM
Hell I remember when Michigan fans were complaining about Navarre back in like 2003 - I think at this point, most of them would take him back in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Minnestota (1-4, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 6-2) Game Week
Post by: GopherRock on October 31, 2017, 09:20:12 AM
Yours truly will be at the game, and pregaming on the golf course. 
Title: Re: Minnestota (1-4, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 6-2) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 31, 2017, 10:31:17 AM
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Title: Re: Minnestota (1-4, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 6-2) Game Week
Post by: The Loon on October 31, 2017, 05:44:56 PM
Captain Catch Phrase vs Captain Khaki Pants. 

Go Gophers! Ski-U-Mah! Row the Boat!!
Title: Re: Minnestota (1-4, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 6-2) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 31, 2017, 06:56:01 PM
Yours truly will be at the game, and pregaming on the golf course.
solid work there
a good day
Title: Re: Minnestota (1-4, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 6-2) Game Week
Post by: MichiFan87 on November 01, 2017, 12:46:03 AM
I will be there as well and looking forward to it after Peters looked good last weekend. Michigan matches up well against the Gophers. Minnesota's offense doesn't concern me very much. Their defense is okay but nothing special, too.

I think the offense gets to 40+ points if they want to, but they could also shut down the playbook in the second half if they get a big early lead. I just want to see the running game continue to be effective, Peters to be efficient, and no turnovers. There is a chance of bad weather, too, though....

34-7
Title: Re: Minnestota (1-4, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 6-2) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on November 01, 2017, 10:17:18 AM
Michigan -15?  Not sure what to think of that.   Brandon Peters gets his first start in a prime time night game.  Minnesota is a step up from Rutgers.  And it'll likely be raining again. 
Title: Re: Minnestota (1-4, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 6-2) Game Week
Post by: ELA on November 01, 2017, 11:11:55 AM
Random thought, not to be morbid, but Michigan only has 2 healthy, non-redshirting QBs this year, and they already pulled the plug on one.

Similar when Hoke did that to Gardner in 2014, and then Morris didn't work out either.

If Peters struggles or gets hurt, where is O'Korn's head at?  Would you go back to him, or are you forced to pull McCaffrey's shirt?
Title: Re: Minnestota (1-4, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 6-2) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on November 02, 2017, 08:09:55 AM
Random thought, not to be morbid, but Michigan only has 2 healthy, non-redshirting QBs this year, and they already pulled the plug on one.

Similar when Hoke did that to Gardner in 2014, and then Morris didn't work out either.

If Peters struggles or gets hurt, where is O'Korn's head at?  Would you go back to him, or are you forced to pull McCaffrey's shirt?
If Peters starts O'Korn is the back-up per Harbaugh so I would guess O'Korn will go in if Peters struggles in the game.  Wilton Speight may dress for next weeks game, @Maryland, and get a few snaps.  All three may be available for the Wisconsin game.  IMO there is now way they burn McCaffrey's red shirt. There are other QBs on the team such as Malzone that would play before McCaffrey in an emergency.
Title: Re: Minnestota (1-4, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 6-2) Game Week
Post by: ELA on November 02, 2017, 09:35:44 AM
Forgot about Malzone, that would make more sense in an emergency situation.
Title: Re: Minnestota (1-4, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 6-2) Game Week
Post by: ELA on November 03, 2017, 11:41:57 AM
Michigan now is where Minnesota was two weeks ago, and where the Wolverines go from here depends on things going very differently for them.  Minnesota finally threw in the towel on Conor Rhoda midway through another dismal offensive performance against Michigan State.  Demry Croft came in, threw three fourth quarter touchdowns and nearly completed the comeback, leaving Gopher fans simultaneously mad that the change hadn't been made sooner, but newly optimistic for the future.  In the two weeks since then, he's been 14-43 for 186 yards, with a touchdown and 3 picks, and only 30 yards rushing on 23 carries, with back to back QBRs below 8.  No Big Ten quarterback has done that twice in a season, let alone in back to back weeks, since 2004 when Zack Mills of Penn State and Stephen Reaves of Michigan State both had two such games.  Now it's Michigan fans' turn to both be mad that it took Harbaugh so long to switch to Peters, and optimistic about the offense going forward.  The big difference here is the surrounding talent.  O'Korn never had to win Michigan games, but his costly turnovers, and poor scrambling decisions were actually costing them.  If Peters can play within himself, that alone is an improvement.  That's exactly what he showed against Rutgers.  He didn't have any "WOW" moments, but in three quarters of action, he also only made two bad throws, and got the ball out.  Getting Karan Higdon rolling again certainly helps too.  He doesn't have Evans' speed or Isaac or Walker's power, but he's clearly the most well-rounded back Michigan has right now.  He's had monster games against Indiana and Rutgers, sandwiched around a lackluster performance against Penn State.  The commitment to feeding him carries is going to be important for Peters, who didn't face a ton of third and longs last week.  Minnesota has obviously a vastly superior defense to Rutgers, but against the run they are vulnerable.  Offensively, Minnesota plays right into Michigan's strength.  Penn State spread Michigan out and exploited one and one matchups, and Lewerke at least threatened them deep.  Minnesota can't do either of those things, and you want to fight a trench war against this Michigan line?  Good luck.
MICHIGAN 31, MINNESOTA 12
Title: Re: Minnestota (1-4, 4-4) at Michigan (3-2, 6-2) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on November 07, 2017, 10:51:24 AM
haven't seen this mentioned- but hybrid S/LB "Viper" Khaleke Hudson breaks the Big Ten conference record for TFL's in a game with 8.

Hudson's final stat line? 15 tackles (12 solo), 8 TFL's, 3 sacks, and a forced fumble. Also came within inches of blocking a punt.

Pro Football Focus rated his performance a 99.9 (out of 100). It is the highest grade they've given out on this season, and only the second time they've awarded a 99.9 - and the first time a player from a Power 5 conference has been rated a 99.9.

Said it before. Peppers way more freakish of an athlete. I think Hudson just has the better football instincts/IQ. That often matters more than being a freak of an athlete.