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Title: Divisional races and bowl plans after week 12
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on November 18, 2019, 11:41:36 AM
The short version is that this week's tOSU/PSU game will almost certainly decide the East while next week's UW/MN game will almost certainly decide the West:
B1G-E
The wins by PSU and tOSU eliminated the Wolverines and Hoosiers from B1GCG contention.  Michigan could still tie for the B1G-E Championship but they can't win the tie so they can't get to Indianapolis.  

B1G-W:
Despite beating the Gophers this weekend, the Hawkeyes were eliminated from contention for a spot in Indy by Wisconsin's win over Nebraska.  This week's Iowa/Illinois winner can still technically tie for the B1G-W Championship but they can't win the tie.  

Bowl position*:
*I have excluded the possibility that a 5-7 team could get in.  

Title: Re: Divisional races and bowl plans after week 12
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 22, 2019, 09:54:20 AM
Here are the mediot preseason predictions:

BIG TEN EAST

1. Michigan, 222 points (20 first-place votes)
2. Ohio State, 214 points (14)
3. Michigan State, 156 points
4. Penn State, 154 points
5. Indiana, 86.5 points
6. Maryland, 82.5 points
7. Rutgers, 37 points

BIG TEN WEST

1. Nebraska, 198 points (14 first-place votes)
2. Iowa, 194.5 points (14)
3. Wisconsin, 172.5 points (4)
4. Northwestern, 142.5 points (1)
5. Purdue, 110.5 points
6. Minnesota, 100 points (1)
7. Illinois, 34 points
Title: Re: Divisional races and bowl plans after week 12
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 22, 2019, 10:00:03 AM
Michigan is always the top team up until the season starts.
Title: Re: Divisional races and bowl plans after week 12
Post by: Abba on November 22, 2019, 12:52:35 PM
I can't believe anyone put Illinois below Rutgers.  Is there a way to give them negative points?
Title: Re: Divisional races and bowl plans after week 12
Post by: LittlePig on November 22, 2019, 09:45:37 PM
A thought just occured to me about when/if the Big Ten changes its schedule to get rid of divisions and have its top 2 teams make the CCG game.

An alternative idea is to go with 3 divisions so teams still have a banner to play for.  Just make the division championship meaningless when it comes to picking the 2 teams to play in the CCG and still pick the top 2 teams.

So let's say the Big Ten splits into 3 divisions

West Division
(each team gets 2 permanent rivals outside the division)

Neb (PSU, Indy)
Iowa (Rut, NW)
Minn (MD, Pur)
Wisc (OSU, ILL)
....

Central Division
(each team gets 1 permant rival outside the divsion)

NW (Iowa)
ILL (wisc)
Pur (Minn)
Indy ((Neb)
MSU (Mich)
...

East Division
(each team gets 1 permanent rival outside the division)

Mich (MSU)
OSU (Wisc)
PSU (Neb)
MD (Minn)
Rut (Iowa)

Everybody has 5 permant rivals and plays everybody else 50% of the time.  Top 2 teams in the conference make the Big Ten CCG regardless of whether they are in the same division or different divisions.
Title: Re: Divisional races and bowl plans after week 12
Post by: MichiFan87 on November 22, 2019, 10:52:08 PM
I just read today that the SEC is considering doing away with its divisions and one of the proposed scheduling models is to give each team 3 permanent rivals and the other 10 teams rotate through so that everyone plays each other home and away over 4 years, with the top 2 teams playing for the conference championship, much like the Big 12 does and the AAC will next year when Connecticut is out.

That could work for the BigTen, though the risk of rematches - particularly for rivalries (especially if it's Michigan - Ohio State, of course) concerns me as would've happened in 2006 and 2018, though I'd much rather play the BigTen West teams more often than Maryland and Rutgers, of course.

The ACC could do that as well, but they'd probably be better off just realigning their divisions to be more geographic and maintain more rivalries (Virginia, Virginia Tech, North Carolina, NC State, Wake Forest, Duke, Clemson / Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Boston College, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Miami FL, Louisville)

CUSA is also a 14 team league that could adopt the same model, but they don't have any split rivalries as it is, so they'll probably just keep it as is. Same with the MWC at 12 teams. I don't even understand why the Sun Belt has divisions with just 10 teams. And the MAC should probably just swap Toledo and Buffalo to keep all of the Ohio teams together.