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The Power Five => SEC => Topic started by: OrangeAfroMan on November 17, 2019, 10:38:26 AM

Title: How they stack up
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 17, 2019, 10:38:26 AM
1.  LSU......their worst defense since '08, but they keep scoring, so...
2.  Georgia
3.  Alabama....w/o Tua and w/o a lights-out defense, they're merely mortal.
4.  Florida
5.  Auburn
6.  A&M
7, 8, 9.  UK, UT, MIZ....throw 'em in a hat.  UK's season has been skewed by literally not having a QB, UT has been better than awful lately, but Missouri has shown a higher ceiling than either of them.
10, 11, 12.  Carolina, OM, MSU...........very bad seasons for programs that are 2nd-tier to begin with
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13 & 14.  Vandy and Arkansas......which dumpster fire do you prefer? 
Title: Re: How they stack up
Post by: Cincydawg on November 18, 2019, 04:52:23 PM
I was reflecting that the preseason pronosticators were fairly close this year, no real shocks, I think.  LSU nipped Bama of course.  The Vols could end up 8-5.  Missouri has a record below expectations.  UK stepped back.  USCe is not very good save that one upset.  Florida was about on par with expectations.
Title: Re: How they stack up
Post by: Nashville4UGA on November 19, 2019, 02:45:10 PM
Tennessee is going to look back on this season and point to the two losses in the first two weeks over teams they should have beaten.  If they win those games they are 7-3 right now and probably ranked either around 25 or just outside of it with a shot at a 10 win season if you count the bowl game.  Still, though, i think Pruitt has them headed in the right direction with a little momentum at the end of the season which is more than can be said of the previous coaches. 

Mizzou- I'm a little surprised how bad they've been over the last month or so.  They have been outscored 100-27 over their last 4 games. 

Title: Re: How they stack up
Post by: Nashville4UGA on November 19, 2019, 02:46:33 PM
One other thing....I'll be glad when 5 and 3 are no longer on Auburn's defensive line. 
that is all. 

Title: Re: How they stack up
Post by: Cincydawg on November 19, 2019, 05:33:17 PM
Yeah, the Vols with a possible 9-3 record would be feeling right pert, but that obviously is not in the cards.

Might they be somewhat decent in 2020?
Title: Re: How they stack up
Post by: Nashville4UGA on November 19, 2019, 06:00:18 PM
They lose Callaway, Juan Jennings and Daniel Bituli. Other than that they get pretty much everyone else back.  Young team it appears. 

Title: Re: How they stack up
Post by: Gigem on November 23, 2019, 03:36:46 AM
I'm probably going to regret posting this tomorrow but I think A&M will give UGa all they can handle tomorrow.  I know UGa already had their boneheaded loss of the season to USCe but I think we will be a tough out for them.  If Mond doesn't have more than one stupid turnover and we are able to stop the run I think we have a shot.  We've already played two number one teams this year (Bama, Clemson) and have probably one left (LSU).  
Title: Re: How they stack up
Post by: Cincydawg on November 24, 2019, 08:28:08 AM
Yeah, A&M made it very interesting late as UGA simply can't move the ball and Fromm had a horrible game.

UGA needs to pass more on first down and not go so obviously conservative in the 4th quarter.
Title: Re: How they stack up
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 24, 2019, 12:38:45 PM
You think maybe Tennessee is now closer to being at an A&M level than a Kentucky/Mizzou level....but then you see Guaranatano's big day was against Mizzou's backup CBs (and a true FR 3rd string) and Mizzou's top 2 WRs were out.  So while they did what they should've, a close win vs a similar-quality opponent looks a little less shiny.



Meh.  The Vols are bowling.  Good for them.
Title: Re: How they stack up
Post by: Cincydawg on November 24, 2019, 01:11:56 PM
The Vols have beaten who they should beat to be a half decent team after the 0-2.  That is notable I think.  The fact it could be notable is notable.

Title: Re: How they stack up
Post by: Nashville4UGA on November 26, 2019, 09:51:32 AM
Yeah in looking at Tennessee's schedule, they have beaten a two teams with winning records. 
UTC is 6-6
MSU is 5-6
South Carolina 4-7
UAB 8-3
Kentucky 6-4
Missouri 5-6

Still, they have something to build on.  they'll beat Vandy most likely and have a chance at probably some team like Louisville in the Music City Bowl.  But, still a ways to go to compete with top teams. Average margin of defeat against top 10 teams this year was 27 pts. 
Title: Re: How they stack up
Post by: Cincydawg on November 26, 2019, 10:33:10 AM
We noted preseason they had an apparently light slate.  I credited them with 4 wins OOC and then 4 in conference, maybe even 5.  After the 0-2, they were looking more like a disaster, 4-8 maybe, but they actually showed a pulse.  It is a notable turn around I think, even if it is not some sign of resurgence.
Title: Re: How they stack up
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 26, 2019, 05:54:26 PM
I still miss Ron Franklin doing SEC night games on ESPN.
Title: Re: How they stack up
Post by: Cincydawg on November 27, 2019, 07:47:24 AM
Has any SEC team surprised you that much relative to preseason expectations?

Mizzou --
LSU ++
Florida +
MSU -
Arky -

I had Florida more at 9-3 with their OL situation, Mullen has done a good job after losing a QB.  I though Mizzou would have a better record.  I give LSU two marks just for being undefeated and blowing a lot of teams out.  Everyone else looks about like what I expected, though the 0-2 Vols would have been ---.
Title: Re: How they stack up
Post by: Gigem on November 28, 2019, 06:40:54 AM
I think this A&M LSU game is going to be a real barn burner one way or the other. I know that LSU claims that they are ready for payback from last years 7 ot thriller but that was so many games ago is it realistic to still be fresh in your memory especially when you finally beat Alabama?  

LSU probably has a talent advantage in every category but I like the fact that this A&M team has played so many tough games on the road. At #1 Clemson, at UGa, and then Bama at our house. It was stated up above that this was their worst defense in several years.  To me it all depends on their run defense.  Jimbo will try to run the ball and if we can have even a modestly successful run game of 100-120 yards it will be a game. That and win the turnover battle. We have been really poor at getting turnovers and really bad at giving them up.  I’d settle for not giving one up. 

I’m predicting LSU wins this 32-28 but there’s a bunch of Cajun and Aggies who will have heart attacks before it’s all over.  
Title: Re: How they stack up
Post by: Gigem on November 28, 2019, 06:52:03 AM
Speaking of stacking up...

My family and I attended Student Bonfire Tuesday night and had a great time. I was a student at the time of the 1999 Bonfire collapse so this was the first time in 20+ years I’ve seen the bonfire burn ( no longer sanctioned by the university of course).

LSU this was built and burned in your effigy:
Title: Re: How they stack up
Post by: Cincydawg on November 28, 2019, 08:30:37 AM
I think it might well be a good game, A&M has a tough style of play, LSU seems to me to be more "elegant".  They obviously have fire power on offense and stopping their very good running back has to be a prime objective.

Edwards Hillaire I think is his name.  He is impressive, a lot of YAC.  Getting pressure on Burrow could be tough if you focus on stopping the run.