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Title: #15 Wisconsin (8-2, 5-2) at Nebraska (4-6, 2-5) Post Game
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 11, 2019, 11:38:03 AM
https://twitter.com/erin_e_barney/status/1193923963275169794

Not a good way to start, and not at all a coincidence that Iowa moved the ball better when he went down. Kid's been hurt quite a bit this season. Too bad. The backup isn't terrible, but depth is a huge issue here.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: MarqHusker on November 11, 2019, 11:47:36 AM
fortunately they get to play a team with no more depth than a kiddie pool.     That kid is a good talent.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 11, 2019, 11:55:16 AM
This is your formal invitation to Phil & Harry's BIG RED Sharkwater Party on November 16th!   
On November 16th the Huskers will host the Wisconsin Badgers in Lincoln, Nebraska.
Kickoff time is 11am local. I thought it would be nice to start a tailgate party about 9:30am on Saturday. 
Stop by, sit in a lawn chair, eat , drink, and talk college football. The forecast looks good.
Same spot as the past few seasons. A parking lot on the northwest corner of 8th and "L" Street. The lot is just three blocks south of "O" Street on South 8th street.  Near the Meadow Gold Dairy and under the Rosa Parks Way overpass.
Go to Google Maps and type in, "801 L Street, Lincoln, NE" or try this link:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/801+L+St,+Lincoln,+NE+68508/@40.8103181,-96.7099837,18z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x8796bf03ca51d6b7:0xf179fbb64906ef5d
Bring whatever food and beverage you'd like. Harry have a grill there. We’ll have burgers and brats and some beer (Bud Heavy)
A lawn chair and cheap sunglasses will come in handy.
I'll have paper plates, napkins, some mustard, a folding table, a cooler or two, and a large batch of "Sharkwater".
I’m hoping our Wisconsin Badger friends will attend the party!  Opposing fans ALWAYS make the party. 
This will be my 18th Sharkwater Party.  Harry is kind enough to host the event at his tailgate party, so please be respectful.
Please let me know if you plan to attend.  Trying to get a rough head count.
Fearless Phil
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 11, 2019, 01:26:22 PM
https://twitter.com/BadgerFootball/status/1193694833111490560


Really gonna miss him next season. Can't imagine any scenario where he comes back. Unless he's nuts.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 11, 2019, 01:27:10 PM
I have a hunch that the Badgers have this one.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: MarqHusker on November 11, 2019, 01:32:02 PM
I need to find a way to attend Sharkwater someday.  I'll be lucky to see this game this weekend w some conflicts this weekend.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 11, 2019, 01:39:13 PM
Getting back to Lincoln is on the docket for 2021 right now.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 11, 2019, 02:24:37 PM


Really gonna miss him next season. Can't imagine any scenario where he comes back. Unless he's nuts.
I just hope he doesn't set any records of note in Lincoln this Saturday
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: MarqHusker on November 11, 2019, 03:22:10 PM
I just hope he doesn't set any records of note in Lincoln this Saturday
Yeah, it would be hard for him to fumble more than OU/Billy Sims' did in Lincoln in '78, but that'd be one I could live with.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: DevilFroggy on November 11, 2019, 06:21:51 PM
Been 13 years since the last Sharkwater party I attended, wouldn't mind going to another one of these days.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 11, 2019, 07:18:29 PM
maybe 2021?
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 11, 2019, 09:35:17 PM
Blackshirts know that stopping Taylor is priority No. 1
Slowing down Wisconsin running back Jonathan Taylor will be as difficult of a challenge as Nebraska’s defense has faced this season, and the Blackshirts know it’s going to take all hands on deck to do it.

Now entering his third meeting against the Huskers, Taylor has already racked up some pretty staggering numbers in the series. The junior has totaled a whopping 470 yards and five touchdowns on 49 carries over the last two games vs. NU.

For Nebraska to have a chance on Saturday, it has to find a way to knock Taylor off that torrid clip. To do that, all 11 defenders need to do their part.

“He’s big, he’s powerful, and he’s slippery," Domann said. "He can slip through these tight gaps that their big o-linemen help create, and then he’s just a workhorse so you have to gang tackle him. You really have to knife him or wrap him up, can’t really hit him on top or take him down with your arms. He’s the full package and we've got to bring it this week.”
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: CWSooner on November 11, 2019, 11:50:49 PM
Yeah, it would be hard for him to fumble more than OU/Billy Sims' did in Lincoln in '78, but that'd be one I could live with.
(https://outalk.us/Smileys/default/banghead.gif)

That might have been Switzer's best team.
At everything except hanging on to the football.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: SFBadger96 on November 13, 2019, 12:30:07 PM
Watching Taylor's highlights, his patience and power stand out to me. He lets the line create holes--they don't have to be huge--and he follows his blocks, then uses his power to add a couple more yards at the end. And he has the capability to juke and breakaway with his speed. But I think it's his patience that really sets him apart.

And the Badgers ability to keep things mixed up with competent QB play makes this offense run so much better.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 13, 2019, 07:20:18 PM
Wan'Dale Robinson's availability for Saturday's game against Wisconsin remains a question mark after the freshman phenom was injured late in Nebraska's loss to Purdue.

NU offensive coordinator Troy Walters was noncommittal Wednesday on Robinson's status for Saturday's game against Wisconsin. Robinson wasn't on the field for Nebraska's final drive against the Boilermakers. He jogged off the field after the game, but was grimacing on his way to the locker room.

"We'll see. We'll see. He's kind of banged up, but he's working to get back," Walters said. "We've got to play with who we have and we'll see gameday what he can do."
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 13, 2019, 07:27:41 PM
Is Nebraska football too far gone, even for Scott Frost? (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28021916/is-nebraska-football-too-far-gone-even-scott-frost)
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 13, 2019, 07:47:57 PM
check out what PJ Fleck has done in Minneapolis
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 13, 2019, 08:49:35 PM
check out what PJ Fleck has done in Minneapolis
Wait and see, maybe?


Impressive so far this season, without question, but nothing is "done" yet.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 13, 2019, 08:54:08 PM
Minnesota is having a really good year, but there is still a large gap between where the Gophers are today and where Nebraska was in the 90s.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 13, 2019, 08:55:55 PM
There's a large gap from most any team today, compared to UNL in the 1990's.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 13, 2019, 09:10:18 PM
Yep. Especially Nebraska.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 13, 2019, 09:12:28 PM
yup, there are a few things that the 90s Huskers accomplished that tOSU, Clemson, and Bama haven't matched

I doubt the Huskers will get back to 90's level, but you never know.

If the Gophers can get to 9-0 or 10-0, why couldn't Nebraska get to 10-0 or 11-0?
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 13, 2019, 09:23:32 PM
It "could" happen. No doubt about that.

Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 13, 2019, 10:20:10 PM
Harry was concerned I wouldn't have enough Sharkwater this Saturday.  10 handles of Tito's, the 11th is for Bloody Mary's to start!
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on November 13, 2019, 10:29:56 PM
I doubt the Huskers will get back to 90's level, but you never know.

If the Gophers can get to 9-0 or 10-0, why couldn't Nebraska get to 10-0 or 11-0?
Well nobody but 'Sker fans want to see that,The Horror,the Husker Prick Squad resurrection,next the Hurricanes will rise from the ashes also this is Old Testament fire and brimstone type crap,frogs,locusts,Fighting Bannana Slugs,SMU Mustangs,where will it end?Anyway I think Frost is the guy,it'll take a while,in the mean time there is a new health smoothie out called Shark Water - give it a shot
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 14, 2019, 10:07:37 AM
I also think Frost is the guy.

Might have to learn a few things about Big Ten football

Might have to overhaul his defensive scheme (heck, Osborne had to do that)
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: Entropy on November 14, 2019, 10:55:22 AM
never is a word that is over used...   near term, UNL has a long ways to go.    For most of UNL's history they were 9-10 win team... losing 1-3 games a year.   The mid 90's was actually an exception.   
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: GopherRock on November 14, 2019, 11:54:49 AM
10 years ago no one would have thought Clemson would be in the position they're in. 
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 14, 2019, 12:09:10 PM
hah, Baylor might be an even better example than Minnesoota

2017 they had one win

look at them go this season
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: ELA on November 14, 2019, 06:22:43 PM


#14 Wisconsin Badgers (4-2, 7-2) at Nebraska Cornhuskers (2-4, 4-5)
NOON - Lincoln, NE - BTN
In a moment of honesty, you know the Chicago offices would love for this to become the marquee game annually in the West Division race.  For that to happen, the Huskers need to start winning some games.  Wisconsin has won 6 in a row, and 7 of 8 overall in the series, with 5 of those 7 wins being by 3 scores, and three by over 30 points.  You know what Wisconsin is by now, an efficient Jack Coan under center, and an elite rushing attack.  But are they?  The Badgers rank #23 nationally, at 5.1 ypc.  That is certainly plenty good, but it also signifies a drop off over over a yard per carry from their 2018 mark.  It was worth wondering whether the workload on Jonathan Taylor was starting to take its toll, after having three consecutive efforts of 3.1 ypc against Michigan State, 4.7 ypc against Illinois and 2.6 ypc against Ohio State.  The Ohio State and Michigan State totals were the worst and third worst of his whole career.  But then Taylor showed what puts him in the discussion with Travis Etienne of Clemson for best running back in the nation, going for over 8 ypc against Iowa.  And Coan is efficient in the sense that he's leading the Big Ten in completion percentage, and has a strong 12:3 TD:INT ratio.  But 7 of those touchdowns were thrown in their nonconference cupcake schedule.  He has just 5 touchdown passes in 6 Big Ten games.  He suffers from a lack of good red zone targets, and defenses know that.  Of the 11 Big Ten teams with at least 15 red zone trips, only Iowa has a lower touchdown percentage.  It's clear for Nebraska that Adrian Martinez is not 100%.  How close is he?  And how much is him simply not taking the sophomore step forward we all expected.  There is zero hint from Scott Frost of going to Vedral or McCaffrey as the starter, so it seems like he is going to get every chance to play through it.  The defense is just as bad as a year ago, and they are worst in the conference at 5.3 ypc allowed.  Frost is struggling on that side of the ball to adjust from the move from the American to the Big Ten.  At Central Florida he relied upon covering up a lot of holes with a super aggressive style, to generate sacks and turnovers, even if they weren't winning many 3rd downs.  In the Big Ten, if you want to play that way, teams will just keep running it down your throat, and that's exactly what opponents have been doing.  When teams are playing with a lead, they aren't going to make the types of mistakes that Nebraska's defense relies upon.  The result is a defense where only Rutgers has forced fewwer turnovers.
WISCONSIN 34, NEBRASKA 17

Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 14, 2019, 07:55:26 PM
Notre Dame's streak of 273 home sellouts is expected to end with Saturday's game against Navy, according to the school.

The streak -- the second-longest active run to Nebraska's 373, according to the South Bend Tribune -- dates back to the final game of the 1973 season, when Notre Dame beat Air Force on Thanksgiving Day in a game that was moved from Saturday to accommodate an ABC telecast. Notre Dame Stadium then had a capacity of 59,075 and the turnstile count was 57,236. The current capacity is 77,622.

"Based on ticket sales through Wednesday, we do not anticipate sellouts for our games against Navy and Boston College [on Nov. 23]," Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick said in a statement. "That this comes during a time of sustained success for our football program reflects both challenges impacting the ticket market nationwide and the unique dynamics of this year's schedule."

Swarbrick told the Tribune that holding three home games in November -- including a 21-20 win over Virginia Tech on Nov. 2 -- was a factor in the streak likely coming to an end.


Saturday's meeting will be the first time since 1978 that both Notre Dame (No. 16, CFP and AP) and Navy (No. 23 CFP, No. 21 AP) are ranked by The Associated Press.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: CWSooner on November 14, 2019, 09:04:22 PM
Notre Dame's streak of 273 home sellouts is expected to end with Saturday's game against Navy, according to the school.

The streak -- the second-longest active run to Nebraska's 373, according to the South Bend Tribune -- dates back to the final game of the 1973 season, when Notre Dame beat Air Force on Thanksgiving Day in a game that was moved from Saturday to accommodate an ABC telecast. Notre Dame Stadium then had a capacity of 59,075 and the turnstile count was 57,236. The current capacity is 77,622.

"Based on ticket sales through Wednesday, we do not anticipate sellouts for our games against Navy and Boston College [on Nov. 23]," Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick said in a statement. "That this comes during a time of sustained success for our football program reflects both challenges impacting the ticket market nationwide and the unique dynamics of this year's schedule."

Swarbrick told the Tribune that holding three home games in November -- including a 21-20 win over Virginia Tech on Nov. 2 -- was a factor in the streak likely coming to an end.


Saturday's meeting will be the first time since 1978 that both Notre Dame (No. 16, CFP and AP) and Navy (No. 23 CFP, No. 21 AP) are ranked by The Associated Press.
Go, Middies!
I'm not an Irish-hater, but my default is to root for any service academy team unless there's a compelling reason to do otherwise.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: Entropy on November 15, 2019, 10:20:38 AM
ELA...   I would be shocked if UNL's D held wisc to 34 points.  
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: ELA on November 15, 2019, 10:42:11 AM
Go, Middies!
I'm not an Irish-hater, but my default is to root for any service academy team unless there's a compelling reason to do otherwise.
I generally root for Navy in 11 of 12 games per year.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: SFBadger96 on November 15, 2019, 12:09:11 PM
I think I've said this before, and I'll probably say it again...

The service academies get a lot of mileage out of providing officers to our nation's military. Oddly, as a former officer, I have almost no affinity for the service academies. Every year I wonder whether I should cheer for the Naval Academy, where a great grandfather and (much more recently) a second cousin graduated, or the Military Academy, where several of my friends/brothers-in-arms graduated. On the other hand, I knew a bunch more colleagues who graduated at West Point who did their college football team no favors in helping me support it. I tend towards supporting the Middies, but--in all honesty--I've been happy to see the Cadets win a couple lately (part of that is because I typically like the underdog).

My grandfather was an Army ROTC grad and wore his UC-Berkeley class ring his entire life, I suspect in response to the Military Academy graduates who wore their class rings (derisively referred to as "Ring Knockers"). He made his career in the Army, and while his status as an ROTC, rather than West Point, grad didn't stop him from rising to the top, I'm sure it was a source of tension/concern for him. Nonetheless, he was a big advocate for West Point. There was always a funny tension for him about it.

Anyway, I've grown tired of the overblown, and in my mind faux, patriotism attached to the Army-Navy game, and the service academy football teams, generally. It's a long time since SLA George Marshall (*may have*) wanted an Army football player for tough missions.

Bah humbug.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 15, 2019, 01:07:47 PM
I always root for the USNA because I'm grateful they were able to give my son many rides to and from his places of business.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on November 15, 2019, 01:10:52 PM
 It's a long time since SLA Marshall (*may have*) wanted an Army football player for tough missions.

Bah humbug.
SLA Marshall was primarily a journalist I believe,much less a soldier.He was the one who stated  something along the lines that only 15% of soldiers on the front fired their weapons.When 70% of Riflemen in the ETO were casualties alot of people called his work suspect
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 15, 2019, 01:20:08 PM
well, I'm off to the Sharkwater party weekend

meeting my brother in Lincoln this afternoon for happy hour - in the Haymarket - usually Buzzard Billy's

wish me luck - I'm much too old for this crap

as always, GO BIG RED!!!!
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: SFBadger96 on November 15, 2019, 01:21:16 PM
Damn it--I always mix up SLA and George Marshall--and it was George--the Chief of Staff--that allegedly said that of West Point footballers.

Unfair to George, for sure, to mix him up with SLA...
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: SFBadger96 on November 15, 2019, 01:27:07 PM
SLA Marshall was primarily a journalist I believe,much less a soldier.He was the one who stated  something along the lines that only 15% of soldiers on the front fired their weapons.When 70% of Riflemen in the ETO were casualties alot of people called his work suspect
To be fair, I think he said that only a small percentage of soldiers on the front fired their weapons with the intent of killing (not that they didn't fire them at all). And his work was suspect. And the military converted from training on traditional targets to training with silhouetted targets to break down soldiers' hesitation to shoot at real people. To train effective soldiers, that was an improvement, regardless of the accuracy of SLA Marshall's work.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (7-2, 4-2) at Nebraska (4-5, 2-4) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on November 15, 2019, 01:46:22 PM
Damn it--I always mix up SLA and George Marshall--and it was George--the Chief of Staff--that allegedly said that of West Point footballers.

Unfair to George, for sure, to mix him up with SLA...
There was a Great Man,had no intentions on blowing his own horn by writing his memoirs(Nimitz same thing) in deference to those who served/sacrificed.He simply authored the Marshall Plan and the rebuilding a ruined Europe perhaps even saving it from falling into Stalin's Soviet sphere
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (8-2, 5-2) at Nebraska (4-6, 2-5) Post Game
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 17, 2019, 09:21:01 AM
With his big rushing day in Lincoln, Jonathon Taylor passed Herschel Walker as the all-time rushing leader through junior season.

I think if bowl games counted, he'd still be behind Herschel and Ron Dayne. The NCAA needs to fix that, by the way. 

Dayne is the all-time leader, period.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (8-2, 5-2) at Nebraska (4-6, 2-5) Post Game
Post by: CWSooner on November 17, 2019, 10:04:25 AM
To be fair, I think he said that only a small percentage of soldiers on the front fired their weapons with the intent of killing (not that they didn't fire them at all). And his work was suspect. And the military converted from training on traditional targets to training with silhouetted targets to break down soldiers' hesitation to shoot at real people. To train effective soldiers, that was an improvement, regardless of the accuracy of SLA Marshall's work.
For one man's well-researched opinion on the various impacts of the marksmanship training the Army implemented to fix the WWII problem, read David Grossman's On Killing: the Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society (https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Psychological-Cost-Learning-Society/dp/0316040932).
It's been updated since I read it over 20 years ago, but some key points that I recall:

I remember watching an episode of the old History Channel Dogfights series.  Willie Driscoll, who was Randy "Duke" Cunningham's back-seater when they became the only U.S. Navy aces in the Vietnam War, was talking about his meeting with an ace from World War I.  He asked the guy if he still had nightmares, and the old man replied, "Every night."
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (8-2, 5-2) at Nebraska (4-6, 2-5) Post Game
Post by: bayareabadger on November 17, 2019, 12:29:58 PM
This win was nice.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (8-2, 5-2) at Nebraska (4-6, 2-5) Post Game
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 17, 2019, 12:38:35 PM
It was good to see them get a road win - first one since August!!
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (8-2, 5-2) at Nebraska (4-6, 2-5) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on November 17, 2019, 06:53:36 PM
Congrats on the win, Badgers

I thought the Huskers could possibly make it a game into the 2nd half, but that kickoff return for the TD took the air out of the game.

I didn't attend the game or see too much of it as I was busy hosting a party, but some say the Huskers showed some fight and didn't play terribly.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (8-2, 5-2) at Nebraska (4-6, 2-5) Post Game
Post by: SFBadger96 on November 18, 2019, 04:38:56 PM
For one man's well-researched opinion on the various impacts of the marksmanship training the Army implemented to fix the WWII problem, read David Grossman's On Killing: the Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society (https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Psychological-Cost-Learning-Society/dp/0316040932).
It's been updated since I read it over 20 years ago...
I have a first edition copy. Grossman was still on active duty and a speaker at my ROTC advanced course at Fort Lewis when he first published it. Inspirational guy--also did some sweet Australian rappelling for us.

Badgers' win wasn't especially inspiring. Taylor is a beast, still. Defense left a lot to be desired. They will have to play a lot better to win in Minneapolis.
Title: Re: #15 Wisconsin (8-2, 5-2) at Nebraska (4-6, 2-5) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on November 18, 2019, 05:00:28 PM
493 yards of offense and 21 points

seems to be a pattern

just score a couple more times and at least could have given the Badgers a game