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Title: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: Cincydawg on November 07, 2019, 08:15:33 AM
Which programs do you think appear to be on an upswing, downswing, or stable, over five years?

Is A&M on an upswing?  This was thought to be their year except for the brutal schedule.  Will they become competitive with Bama and LSU?

Bama has an aging coach who might well still be there in five years.  They are stable I think.

LSU might have their one or two years really competitive because of the QB they found.  Might be waining a bit?

Arky has to get better, because they can't get worse.  Everyone else in the west looks about stable to me.

I think Florida is getting better over time, they need an elite QB and will find a better OL.  UGA is stable I think.  Tennessee I think will get better over time, in part because they aren't great now.  Kentucky is interesting, they may oscillate between mediocre and the occasional pretty good year.  Everyone else looks stable to me.  Mizzou and USCe can pick it up if they find a really good QB.

Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: Cincydawg on November 07, 2019, 11:38:02 AM
In 2030, UGA will play Clemson, OSU, and GT, and the next year Oklahoma, @OSU, and @GT.

In 2028, UGA plays @ Texas, FSU, and GT and in 2029, Texas, @ Clemson, @ GT.

Ouch.  Is this good for recruiting?
Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 07, 2019, 08:48:40 PM
It's bad for your W/L record....
Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: Cincydawg on November 08, 2019, 07:08:29 AM
Yeah, I'm curious about their thinking, some suggested an 8 team playoff is looming.
Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: Nashville4UGA on November 08, 2019, 10:22:18 AM
Which programs do you think appear to be on an upswing, downswing, or stable, over five years?

Is A&M on an upswing?  This was thought to be their year except for the brutal schedule.  Will they become competitive with Bama and LSU?

Bama has an aging coach who might well still be there in five years.  They are stable I think.

LSU might have their one or two years really competitive because of the QB they found.  Might be waining a bit?

Arky has to get better, because they can't get worse.  Everyone else in the west looks about stable to me.

I think Florida is getting better over time, they need an elite QB and will find a better OL.  UGA is stable I think.  Tennessee I think will get better over time, in part because they aren't great now.  Kentucky is interesting, they may oscillate between mediocre and the occasional pretty good year.  Everyone else looks stable to me.  Mizzou and USCe can pick it up if they find a really good QB.

I think the year LSU is having on Offense is going to help them start attracting better QB's over time. As long as that offensive coordinator stays they should be able to recruit well on offense. 

Alabama isn't going away and even if Saban retires they will still get a great coach who recruits well. 

Florida loses ALOT after this year and they haven't lit the world on fire in recruiting. They lost quite a bit from last year's signing class already.  At best they lose Perine, Hammond, Van Jefferson, Freddie Swain, Jaewon Taylor, David Reese, Greenard, Tyrie Cleveland, Zuniga,
Gotta think CJ Henderson and Tony may test the NFL waters.  They may finish 3rd or 4th in the East in recruiting this year. 

Arkansas....man...don't even know what to say about them. They can't get any worse can they? 
Tennessee, i think Pruitt will get them back to respectability. This team has grown up a bit in the last few games, Jennings seems to have become more involved in the game plans, but he and Marquez Callaway are seniors.  The Oline appears to be improving.  If they can get to a bowl game this year by winning 2 out of the last 3 that will be a good start especially how the season started out. 



Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: Nashville4UGA on November 08, 2019, 10:23:36 AM
In 2030, UGA will play Clemson, OSU, and GT, and the next year Oklahoma, @OSU, and @GT.

In 2028, UGA plays @ Texas, FSU, and GT and in 2029, Texas, @ Clemson, @ GT.

Ouch.  Is this good for recruiting?
I would be surprise if all of these games actually happened. 
Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: EastAthens on November 08, 2019, 11:53:59 AM
In 2030, UGA will play Clemson, OSU, and GT, and the next year Oklahoma, @OSU, and @GT.

In 2028, UGA plays @ Texas, FSU, and GT and in 2029, Texas, @ Clemson, @ GT.

Ouch.  Is this good for recruiting?
The thinking is there will be an 8 team playoff by then with every conference champion assured in so the ooc record does not matter at all.  The thinking is also a more attractive schedule will help recruiting because most great players want to play other great players.
Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: EastAthens on November 08, 2019, 11:56:33 AM
The thinking is there will be an 8 team playoff by then with every conference champion assured in so the ooc record does not matter at all.  The thinking is also a more attractive schedule will help recruiting because most great players want to play other great players.
Here is a Dan Wetzel article about it.

https://sports.yahoo.com/does-georgias-future-schedule-hint-that-playoff-expansion-is-coming-194227906.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/does-georgias-future-schedule-hint-that-playoff-expansion-is-coming-194227906.html)
Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 09, 2019, 06:07:29 PM
I can't fathom a recruit caring about a team's OOC schedule 3 years down the line.
Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: Cincydawg on November 10, 2019, 07:47:49 AM
I doubt it makes any difference TODAY with recruiting, but it could make some difference in 2026 or so, more TV exposure etc.  You probably get more attention from players at a significant distance from your school by playing Cal or Texas or Ohio State.  Might you add one or two players you would not have otherwise?

Maybe, maybe not.  It'll be interesting to see if this becomes more common.
Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 10, 2019, 07:59:14 AM
All games are on TV now.
Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: Cincydawg on November 10, 2019, 11:26:08 AM
I'm pretty sure more eyeballs are watching UGA play OSU than UGA playing Georgia Southern.

UGA is probably a well enough known entity to be on the radar of top recruits from wherever in the country.  I doubt playing at Cal or Texas or Ohio State or Notre Dame gets them more notice among recruits.  

So, why are they doing this?  They could play two P5 teams OOC each year and no one would nag them.  Some think we'll have the 8 game playoff by then.  Maybe so.
Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: Cincydawg on November 10, 2019, 11:38:02 AM
So, is any program out there likely to change drastically in five years?  I suppose that is impossible to predict.  Ole Miss made a jump with some dubious recruiting.  I didn't expect the Vols to drop as far and as long as they have.  They easily could be a 8-4 kind of team in 5 years, or better.  They could have been 8-4 this year with their OOC slate.  Mizzou and USCe strike me as "hanging around" kinds of teams.  Vandy might get to 6-6 on occasion.

A&M has the resources to turn out 10 win seasons.  MSU should on occasion.  Arky HAS to get better somehow.  They are in Rutgers territory.
Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: Gigem on November 10, 2019, 01:49:27 PM
The chances of Alabama following up an extremely successful head coach with another extremely or even very successful hc are, IMO, low. The only two programs I can think of off the top of my head are FSU (Bowden to Fisher) and OU ( and afaic the jury’s still out). NU kinda did when Osborne retired and Frank Solich took over...until they fired him. It wasn’t too long ago that Alabama was having losing seasons and USC was top dog. 

What seems like a hard game in the future may be easy and what seems easy may be hard. 
Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: Cincydawg on November 10, 2019, 01:55:08 PM
Day has been a success - thus far.  Urban's players and all that.  Smart has been a decent hire after Richt and Richt did fairly well.

Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 10, 2019, 02:08:06 PM
The worst record OSU could have if a chimp was coaching them would be 8-1.  
Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: Cincydawg on November 10, 2019, 03:22:14 PM
Yes, but they have looked very impressive beating the crap out of every opponent thus far.  The do have a 42-0 win over a ranked team.

I think a team that consistently blows out mediocre to bad competition merits consideration as being a great team.  I think OSU would be favored over everyone aside from LSU on a neutral field right now.

I see the Dawgs are a slight favorite at Auburn.  Huh.
Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 11, 2019, 12:40:59 AM
Auburn's offense vs UGA is going to set football back 40 years.  Bo Nix is dreadful.




Enough with that misleading "42-0 vs a ranked team" stuff....it's Cincinnati.  If they played 2 consecutive P5 teams with a pulse, they'd get curb-stomped and we all know it.  They're having a nice little season with their 2nd-rate program and 2nd-rate players in their 2nd-rate stadium.



Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: Cincydawg on November 11, 2019, 05:51:09 AM
Ohio State would get curb stomped by any two P5 teams they might play outside the Big Ten?  Really?

Second rate program?  Second rate players?  I presume this is hyperbole.



Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 11, 2019, 07:14:51 PM
The entire paragraph is about Cincinnati.....
Title: Re: The next five years (projecting)
Post by: Cincydawg on November 12, 2019, 09:39:22 AM
Ah, my bad, I misread that.  Ha.