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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: Temp430 on October 29, 2019, 07:43:14 AM
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Michigan is favored by 18 points in this Noon contest. Michigan OC Gattis is old friends with Maryland head coach Locksley with both taking credit for Alabama's offense last year.
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The line is closer than I would have guessed. I expect more of a blowout, like 45-16.
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agreed, I'm leaning towards taking Michigan, giving the points
wish I would have taken Michigan and the points last week
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And of course it's possible Michigan lays a virtual egg here of course after a great win last week. I doubt it though.
Take the Gators against UGA and get the points to boot.
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you seem fairly sure about that one
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Yup. Florida has enough defense to stop UGA the way USCe limited them (and Kentucky, though that was in pouring rain).
Use one on one press coverage and zone blitz to stop the run and make Fromm through into tight windows as the UGA receivers seem unable to get separation. Last year's game was close in reality, Florida lost a 3-0 TO margin, and Florida is better this year without Franks at QB. UGA is better on defense but they lost a lot at WR.
The one guy they had is injured and doubtful.
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Michigan’s defense has really went to another level with sophomore DE Aidan Hutchinson developing his game and taking it to the next level these past few weeks and with RS frosh LB Cam McGrone and true frosh S/NB Dax Hill getting starting roles. I honestly think all 3 of these guys are going to be future 1st round draft picks. Proto-type size and measurables for the position and all of them seem to have good instincts.
Michigan has two really good CBs in Vert Hill and Ambry Thomas. Vincent Gray has been kind of up and down but he’s shown a lot of promise for a frosh. Glasgow has been a pleasant surprise at LB- but he’s a Glasgow- this should’ve been expected. Michigan’s defense has gotten a lot better since that debacle in Wisconsin.
I have a hard time seeing Maryland being really able to challenge it. Who f’n knows with this team though?
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This game hasn't been close the past 4 years, and I see no reason to expect anything different this time. Michigan fans will overtake their stadium like they have in 2015 and 2017, just like they do at Rutgers in even years.
Defensively, Michigan just needs to shut down their RBs. They've done that pretty well the past 4 weeks so I don't see why they wouldn't in this game, too. Their passing game isn't very good, and Michigan has shut down better QBs and WRs than they have. Offensively, Michigan will probably just run it for most of the game and pass when they need to.
The biggest question is how quickly Michigan is able to get a big lead. If they can finally play well from the start, they could put in the backups for a good part of the second half, though with the way the second half of the Illinois game went, they might keep the starters in longer than they need to.
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Yeah, it should be akin to say Wisconsin playing Illinois.
Oh, my bad.
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Texas might have something to say about over confidence and Maryland.
Fear the Turtle.
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Yeah, it should be akin to say Wisconsin playing Illinois.
Oh, my bad.
Ouch
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Texas might have something to say about over confidence and Maryland.
Fear the Turtle.
Double Ouch!
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Say what you will about Michigan's losses in big games under Harbaugh, but they have pretty consistently beaten the teams they are supposed to beat, oftentimes convincingly. Some games have been close (a few against Indiana, 2016 Minnesota, 2019 Army), but most have not.
Michigan's worst loss under Harbaugh is probably 2017 South Carolina. Almost every other loss was to a team that was ranked and/or finished the season ranked.
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Michigan is favored by 18 points in this Noon contest. Michigan OC Gattis is old friends with Maryland head coach Locksley with both taking credit for Alabama's offense last year.
my line is 21
did it change or just different sources
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https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas/ (https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas/)
It opened at 18 and moved to 21.
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The Michigan OL from the past couple weeks is the Michigan OL that I had expected to see develop. Warriner is as good an OL Coach as there is. The guys are big and experienced.
Runyan is a 5th yr senior, Bredeson is a SR, Ruiz is a Jr, Onwenu is a SR. Only the RS Frosh Mayfield at RT is a young pup.
There was just too much coaching talent, player talent, and experience at OL for it to be as mediocre as it had been. Hopefully this is the OL we’ll see from here on out. If it is, Maryland has very little chance.
I think Haskins and Charbonnet are both legit RBs with some NFL potential. Probably the best backs that Michigan has had in a very long time.
Michigan’s defense looks a lot better to me since the emergence of Hutchinson, McGrone, and Dax Hill. I don’t see Maryland doing much against that defense.
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Michigan’s defense looks the way it will always look if the offense keeps the defense fresh by staying on the field, and moving the chains
That’s what makes UM dangerous.
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Texas might have something to say about over confidence and Maryland.
Fear the Turtle.
I love you man, but this is going to be a bloodbath.
Do you believe this is our homecoming game?
LOL!
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Michigan’s defense looks the way it will always look if the offense keeps the defense fresh by staying on the field, and moving the chains
That’s what makes UM dangerous.
That has helped them a bit too.
But to me the defense making a big jump and improving has mostly been about Hutchinson, McGrone, and Dax Hill.
McGrone looks like a bigger Devin Bush. Aidan Hutchinson is playing out of his mind right now and Dax Hill brings an athletic dimension at nickel/safety that Michigan has been lacking forever. Those are elite talents at each level of the defense and it’s taking the defense up a notch. Ambry + Vert are a damn good CB duo too.
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Maryland earlier showed some offensive punch. I suppose even wounded they might put up some points.
But I can't see an upset here. I'd probably set the line around 30 or so myself.
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The Michigan OL from the past couple weeks is the Michigan OL that I had expected to see develop. Warriner is as good an OL Coach as there is. The guys are big and experienced.
Runyan is a 5th yr senior, Bredeson is a SR, Ruiz is a Jr, Onwenu is a SR. Only the RS Frosh Mayfield at RT is a young pup.
There was just too much coaching talent, player talent, and experience at OL for it to be as mediocre as it had been. Hopefully this is the OL we’ll see from here on out. If it is, Maryland has very little chance.
Yup, that was the biggest issue. Not coaching, not playcalling, not quarterback play.
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Yup, that was the biggest issue. Not coaching, not playcalling, not quarterback play.
QB play still way up there in terms of problems.
Shea has gotten worse from year 1 to year 2, just like Speight did. O’Korn actually got worse from his last season at Houston to his final years under Harbaugh. Peters never really developed either.
From what I’ve seen at Michigan, Harbaugh is toxic for QBs. I feel sorry for Dylan McCaffrey.
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he could transfer to Nebraska and play with his younger brother.
Last week vs the Hoosiers
Luke McCaffrey 5-6-0-71 w/a TD passing
Luke McCaffrey 12-76 rushing
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Maryland looks bad overall.
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Maryland looks bad overall.
Thanks, Cpt Obvious.
But, I know your intention.
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I had not watched Maryland before, they looked worse than I expected, especially the lines.
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Locksley the offensive genius put up exactly.....0 points.
Michigan muffed a chip shot FG and had a busted kick coverage- otherwise it would’ve been 41-0 with Harbs taking the foot off the gas and putting in the backups late in the 3rd QTR.
That TD pass dropped in the end-zone vs Penn State looms large.
None of this matters until Harbs actually beats Ohio State- but this legitimately looks like a different team from the 2nd half on vs Penn State. The last 2 1/2 games- I don’t even recognize this team. It’s crazy.
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Locksley the offensive genius put up exactly.....0 points.
LOL
You're a funny dude.
Michigan is loaded and Locks isn't calling plays, but buy into Levy's "called by Gattis" BS.
Congrats on the monumental win.
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Fairly uninspiring effort from Michigan despite the score. Hard to trust this team.
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Fairly uninspiring effort from Michigan despite the score. Hard to trust this team.
Agreed. They have lots of talent. IMO this team lacks coaching and leadership on offense.
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Agreed. They have lots of talent. IMO this team lacks coaching and leadership on offense.
QB play is a monumental issue. I watch other teams and am blown away the difference between Shea and other QB’s. Patterson makes 1 or 2 throws a game that are truly great throws. I don’t think physical ability is the problem(except deep balls), I believe it’s decision making and ability to sell the misdirection or the option. Secondly, I think it’s mental. He struggles making reads and making the right decision. He throws into coverage far too often.
The line is also an issue which is mind blowing. I’m still not sure if that’s because Patterson can’t throw downfield and defenses know it so they stack the box or if the line simply just underperforms. A mediocre O-line is probably the most confusing part of this team.
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The team over all seems to have found a groove though.Watched about the 1st KO TD return - where the hell has that kid been?Perhaps M was just shuffling the deck a little knowing they could do that vs Rutgers.That fake punt that turned into a flying wedge they should have saved for MSU/tOSU - that was sharp
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The team over all seems to have found a groove though.Watched about the 1st KO TD return - where the hell has that kid been?Perhaps M was just shuffling the deck a little knowing they could do that vs Rutgers.That fake punt that turned into a flying wedge they should have saved for MSU/tOSU - that was sharp
Maybe a case of trying to make those teams back up in some punt spots?
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The team over all seems to have found a groove though.Watched about the 1st KO TD return - where the hell has that kid been?Perhaps M was just shuffling the deck a little knowing they could do that vs Rutgers.That fake punt that turned into a flying wedge they should have saved for MSU/tOSU - that was sharp
Giles Jackson and Mike Sainstril are small quick explosive dudes. Kinda beats the hell out of me why neither of them have been seen more.
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Giles Jackson and Mike Sainstril are small quick explosive dudes. Kinda beats the hell out of me why neither of them have been seen more.
UGA had a guy like that last year and I wondered if the QB simply couldn't see him clearly down field very often. He's now in the NFL doing reasonably well.
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There are several reasons Sainstril and Jackson are not seen more: Black, Bell, Collins, and DPJ.
Jackson's TD on Saturday wasn't a fluke. He's been close before.
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We've all seen talented teams in the past that for some reason were inconsistent, even quarter to quarter. They would light some opponent up and then suddenly look hapless with the same personnel. I don't know if Um qualifies, or why some teams are like this.
A team like Alabama seems consistently to just grind nearly everyone to death in a game. Clemson can be a bit up and down. Ohio State this season looks like a team that has always been good, maybe they have had a bad quarter against MSU. With Michigan, perhaps we don't know which team will show up, and if the good Michigan happens with OSU it would be a game I think. If the bad version shows up, OSU will blow them out.
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There are several reasons Sainstril and Jackson are not seen more: Black, Bell, Collins, and DPJ.
Jackson's TD on Saturday wasn't a fluke. He's been close before.
I haven't seen a ton out of Black, Collins or DPJ, other than the ability to look the part. They look like nobody has ever even attempted to teach them how to run a route, because they were always able to get by on raw talent.