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Title: #16 Michigan (5-1, 3-1) at Illinois (2-4, 0-3) Post Game
Post by: Temp430 on October 07, 2019, 07:39:58 AM
Michigan visits Urbana for a Noon EDT kickoff.  Illinois starting QB Peters is out with a concussion so the Wolverines will likely not need to turn on the offensive overdrive engines as they did against Iowa.

Michigan  6
Illinois    0
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: MichiFan87 on October 07, 2019, 11:30:05 AM
As disappointing as the offense has been, it's still scored at least as many points as its opponents have given up on average for each game. They certainly dominated the weakest defenses (Middle Tennessee and Rutgers). Meanwhile, Illinois hasn't played a very good defense all year, so this game shouldn't be close.
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on October 07, 2019, 11:33:01 AM
Any way to view this as a trap game at all?
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 07, 2019, 01:35:01 PM
The Wolverines win this one by at least a million points. 
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 07, 2019, 02:13:21 PM
Any way to view this as a trap game at all?
I doubt it.  

On the one had, Michigan's next game (@PSU) is a pretty big deal but I don't see it as a likely trap game for two reasons:

First, I don't think that Michigan has looked good enough to where their players and coaches are lulled to sleep thinking they are all that.  Instead, they've been facing some pretty extreme criticism.  

Second, even if Michigan is looking ahead I just don't think Illinois is good enough to take advantage.  
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 07, 2019, 02:17:15 PM
Michigan would have to commit multiple turnovers, all within the shadow of their own end zone, in order for this one to stay close. 
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on October 07, 2019, 06:00:09 PM
Illinois should not be this awful.
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 07, 2019, 07:21:31 PM

It is the curse of Chief Illiniwek. 
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 07, 2019, 08:49:26 PM
Illinois should not be this awful.
Apathetic fan base and students don't help. There is no big money flowing in, outside of the TV shares. The boosters shut off years ago.


Lots of coaching hire blunders and a crap stadium don't help. Location is also tough. Champaign is not Ann Arbor or Madison or East Lansing or Iowa City.


People who should be Illinois fans are mostly Bears fans. And Kubbs fans. And Blackhawk fans. And Bulls fans. 3 (or 4) are Sox fans.


My Illinois alumni friends couldn't give a crap less about Illinois football, and even their interest in hoops is waning.


Apathetic. No doubt.


A downgrade to MAC status might be in order. They are not Premier League material.
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: MichiFan87 on October 07, 2019, 11:45:08 PM
It'll be interest to see if/what effect the eventual addition of the hockey program has on their fan base. For Penn State, it gave them a winter sport to care about. Of course, Illinois used to be consistently good in basketball (and maybe this year they'll finally get back to the top half of the league and make the tournament).

I've never been to Champaign, but I've met enough Illinois grads, especially from when I lived in Chicago, to get that they look at their football program as a lost cause at this point, at least for now. Of course, the Purdue fans I met 3 years ago kind of felt the same way back then, and their situation wasn't that different, so I think it could just take the right coaching hire.

Iowa State, Washington State, Kansas State, Kentucky, Baylor, Duke, Mississippi State, California, Wake Forest, and of course Northwestern have all had more success in recent years with similar or worse support, while other programs with more advantages have underachieved as much or moreso (eg. Tennessee, Nebraska, UCLA, Arkansas, Maryland).
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 08, 2019, 12:07:08 AM
YAWN. BFD.

Get back to me when they go play Penn State on the road. That's when we'll see if this team has any balls and has actually rebounded from the ass whooping they took from Wisconsin in Madison.
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on October 08, 2019, 08:31:19 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1135619023926943745/GlSEraxc_normal.jpg) (https://twitter.com/anthonytbroome)
 (https://twitter.com/anthonytbroome)Anthony Broome@anthonytbroome

Harbaugh asked about how he'd rate QB development under him at Michigan as far as recruits go. Wouldn't really go into it. "Would rather not toot my own horn."
12:09 PM - Oct 7, 2019 (https://twitter.com/anthonytbroome/status/1181240104037142533)


Wow 


Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 08, 2019, 06:14:52 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1135619023926943745/GlSEraxc_normal.jpg) (https://twitter.com/anthonytbroome)
 (https://twitter.com/anthonytbroome)Anthony Broome@anthonytbroome

Harbaugh asked about how he'd rate QB development under him at Michigan as far as recruits go. Wouldn't really go into it. "Would rather not toot my own horn."
12:09 PM - Oct 7, 2019 (https://twitter.com/anthonytbroome/status/1181240104037142533)


Wow
LOL. The guy has clearly jumped the shark and lost his mind. He's not the same coach. He's on meds and he's a sorry sack of shit and a shell of himself. He's lost it.
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 08, 2019, 08:58:28 PM


Why toot your own horn, when the coeds let you toot theirs for free? 



(https://sports.cbsimg.net/images/collegefootball/harbaughpiccolo360.jpg)
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: NickSmith4Three on October 09, 2019, 09:24:52 AM
~6 winning records in the last 25 years or so takes a toll on a fan base.  I have lived about 4 hours from Champaign for the past 10 years.  I have been to 3 football games that I can remember in that time.  Why would I waste my money on that product?
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 09, 2019, 09:35:38 AM

#16 Michigan Wolverines (2-1, 4-1) at Illinois Fighting Illini (0-2, 2-3)
NOON - Champaign, IL - ABC
The Illini beat Michigan in 2008 and 2009, their first back to back wins in the series since the 50s, and then scared them with the 67-65 barnburner in 2010.  Since then Michigan has put the series back on track with three wins by a combined score of 117-22.  It's unclear whether they will have to face old friend Brandon Peters, former program savior, who has not yet cleared concussion protocol.  He hasn't exactly lit the world on fire, ranking 14th of 15 qualified Big Ten quarterbacks in Total QBR.  If he can't go, it's likely redshirt freshman Matt Robinson, who saw extended time against Minnesota once Peters went out, and didn't exactly impress.  He completed 51% of his passes, barely even tried to go downfield, and was sacked 3 times.  I think everyone knew that if this team couldn't run the ball, they'd be in big trouble, considering how bad they were last year even with an elite running game.  This probably isn't the week to get that sorted out.  Michigan's defense hasn't allowed a touchdown in their last 9 quarters.  Last week made it clear that the offense is not fixed, not even close, but I think it also changed what we thought Michigan's defensive ceiling was.  If the thought was they could be good, maybe even very good, but not great or elite, that appears to be wrong.  The improved play of the line is the major reason, as the Hawkeyes were not able to get any run game going, and Nate Stanley was pressured unlike I think I've ever seen any quarterback get harassed behind an Iowa offensive line.  The hopes that the Rutgers game fixed the offense?  Not so much.  Shea Patterson had another bad game, down to #9 in the Big Ten in Total QBR, #10 in raw QBR, although the major culprit continues to be the offensive line, which is probably the most disappointing positional unit of any team in the Big Ten thus far.  They have the talent, they have the coaching, it baffles me why they simply cannot open any holes for the run game, and remain in the bottom quarter of the FBS in sack rate.  Oddly, Indiana always gives Michigan problems (Wolverines won the last four by 11, 7, 10, 7), but aside from that, the only time in Harbaugh's tenure that a team with a losing record stayed within 3 touchdowns of Michigan was the Michigan State game in 2016.  Michigan puts their foot down when they should every time.
MICHIGAN 38, ILLINOIS 12

Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: MaximumSam on October 09, 2019, 12:47:33 PM
~6 winning records in the last 25 years or so takes a toll on a fan base.  I have lived about 4 hours from Champaign for the past 10 years.  I have been to 3 football games that I can remember in that time.  Why would I waste my money on that product?
What are your expectations for the basketball this year?
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: fezzador on October 09, 2019, 12:51:34 PM
Michigan will do nothing offensively, but Illinois will do less than nothing.  27-7 Wolverines
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 09, 2019, 11:12:19 PM
Michigan will do nothing offensively, but Illinois will do less than nothing.  27-7 Wolverines
sounds about right
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: NickSmith4Three on October 10, 2019, 09:19:32 AM
What are your expectations for the basketball this year?

I hope they are in the top half this year.  They have a few great guards and should have a presence down low, albeit freshman big man.  Andy Katz is high on them but I haven't seen much else from national guys that are giving them too much hope. 
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on October 13, 2019, 08:53:51 AM
Michigan tried to coast after halftime and the Illini rubbed their noses in it.  Bench Charbonnet and Wilson until they learn to secure the ball. Wilson was chicken winging it.  Fire the RB coach and hire Mike Hart.
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (4-1, 2-1) at Illinois (2-3, 0-2) Post Game
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 13, 2019, 08:56:17 AM
Michigan tried to coast after halftime and the Illini rubbed their noses in it.  Bench Charbonnet and Wilson until they learn to secure the ball. Wilson was chicken winging it.  Fire the RB coach and hire Mike Hart.
Did Hart and Harbaugh ever kiss and make up?
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (5-1, 3-1) at Illinois (2-4, 0-3) Post Game
Post by: Temp430 on October 13, 2019, 09:06:10 AM
Did Hart and Harbaugh ever kiss and make up?
Don’t think so.
Title: Re: #16 Michigan (5-1, 3-1) at Illinois (2-4, 0-3) Post Game
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 13, 2019, 01:13:54 PM
Weird game.

I only saw the beginning. It looked like Michigan was comfortably dominating so I moved on.

Looking at the Worldwide Leader's play-by-play, it looks like Michigan comfortably dominated all but the third quarter, the last few minutes of the first half, and the first few minutes of the fourth quarter. 

Why? Was there something that one or both teams did differently?