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Title: Hey Texas
Post by: Kris60 on October 01, 2019, 11:54:15 AM
Horns down!

Whatcha gonna do about it?
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 01, 2019, 11:56:34 AM
Quote
Whatcha gonna do about it?


Enjoy the benefits of a 15 yard penalty against WVU, most likely. :djparty:




What's up Kris, how you feeling about this weekend?
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: BrownCounty on October 01, 2019, 11:58:26 AM
Morgantown should be a horns-down festival this Saturday.  Never mind it was Texas that put them in the Big 12.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 01, 2019, 12:04:01 PM
Speaking of Horns-down, can you believe this bulljive?

http://www.oudaily.com/sports/ou-football-sooners-spirit-squad-told-not-to-do-horns/article_8e2667cc-e325-11e9-a05f-dbc5a7ba8f1f.html (http://www.oudaily.com/sports/ou-football-sooners-spirit-squad-told-not-to-do-horns/article_8e2667cc-e325-11e9-a05f-dbc5a7ba8f1f.html)

Sooners telling their spirit organizations not to do the horns-down?  I mean, I don't like it when they do it, but it IS part of the rivalry.  

badgerfan would call this POA.  It's hard to disagree.

Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: longhorn320 on October 01, 2019, 12:10:51 PM
What is it national brotherhood week?

I have no problem with the Horns down sigh

I understanding not allowing an opposing player to do it

as it is a form of taunting but as far as the fans are concerned

go for it
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: Kris60 on October 01, 2019, 12:12:37 PM
15 yard penalty most likely. :djparty:


What's up Kris, how you feeling about this weekend?
Honestly?  I think Texas is gonna woodshed us.  WVU isn’t a good football team.  That being said, I’m taking my 11 yo daughter to her first college football game this weekend.  I figured a big game atmosphere would be a good way to introduce her to a live college football game, but I’ve already warned her it could get ugly fast.

But the fan in me always holds out hope.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 01, 2019, 12:14:36 PM
What is it national brotherhood week?

I have no problem with the Horns down sigh

I understanding not allowing an opposing player to do it

as it is a form of taunting but as far as the fans are concerned

go for it

Yeah, exactly my take.  If we're going to have on-field rules against taunting, then Horns-down is clearly a taunt that should fall within those rules.  Personally I'd be fine with eliminating all taunting rules, but as long as they're present, then it should be called on players when they do it on the field.

But students, fans, and spirit groups?  Man, I'm not sure how I'd react if I went to the Cotton Bowl and didn't see a single horns-down.  It would be weird.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 01, 2019, 12:17:22 PM
Honestly?  I think Texas is gonna woodshed us.  WVU isn’t a good football team.  That being said, I’m taking my 11 yo daughter to her first college football game this weekend.  I figured a big game atmosphere would be a good way to introduce her to a live college football game, but I’ve already warned her it could get ugly fast.

But the fan in me always holds out hope.

Should be a fun atmosphere, for sure.  I've always wanted to catch a game in Morgantown.  Well, at least since WVU joined the B12 anyway.

I'd like to think Texas is putting it together well enough to win in woodshed fashion (no offense intended ;) ) but I'll never take WVU lightly and especially not in your home stadium.  
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: CWSooner on October 01, 2019, 12:39:08 PM
Speaking of Horns-down, can you believe this bulljive?

http://www.oudaily.com/sports/ou-football-sooners-spirit-squad-told-not-to-do-horns/article_8e2667cc-e325-11e9-a05f-dbc5a7ba8f1f.html (http://www.oudaily.com/sports/ou-football-sooners-spirit-squad-told-not-to-do-horns/article_8e2667cc-e325-11e9-a05f-dbc5a7ba8f1f.html)

Sooners telling their spirit organizations not to do the horns-down?  I mean, I don't like it when they do it, but it IS part of the rivalry. 

badgerfan would call this POA.  It's hard to disagree.
All Soonerdom is anxiously awaiting UT to reciprocate by banning "OU Sucks!" in the middle of the fight song.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 01, 2019, 12:57:08 PM
All Soonerdom is anxiously awaiting UT to reciprocate by banning "OU Sucks!" in the middle of the fight song.

Meh.  The official spirit organizations don't do that, anyway.  The Cheerleaders and Pom Squad all distinctly say "Give 'em hell, Give 'em hell, Go Horns Go."

I'd think the band members are the ones that might be tempted to say OU sucks, but they're playing their instruments at that time and can't really say anything.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: BrownCounty on October 01, 2019, 01:36:05 PM
All Soonerdom is anxiously awaiting UT to reciprocate by banning "OU Sucks!" in the middle of the fight song.

Which IMO, is more classless than Horns down.

I like Horns down.  I remember when OU used to insult A&M by doing Horns down.  It's a deeper insult than doing it to Texas.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 01, 2019, 01:48:43 PM
Which IMO, is more classless than Horns down.

I like Horns down.  I remember when OU used to insult A&M by doing Horns down.  It's a deeper insult than doing it to Texas.

Agree it's more classless, but it's not like the Sooners stop at doing horns-down and refrain from saying "Texas sucks" so they're not off the hook any more than we are.  I couldn't even begin to count the number of tshirts like this one, that I see ever year at the State Fair.  Plus the drunken frat boys that will run up and scream it in your ear in case you weren't able to read their tshirts.


(https://i3.cpcache.com/merchandise/152_550x550_Front_Color-MilitaryGreen.jpg?Size=Large&AttributeValue=NA&region={%22name%22:%22FrontCenter%22,%22width%22:10,%22height%22:10,%22alignment%22:%22TopCenter%22,%22orientation%22:0,%22dpi%22:100,%22crop_x%22:0,%22crop_y%22:0,%22crop_h%22:1000,%22crop_w%22:1000,%22scale%22:0,%22template%22:{%22id%22:37267060,%22params%22:{}}})

Ain't nobody got the moral high ground on this one.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 01, 2019, 02:14:43 PM
Anyway, I apologize for derailing the the thread.  We're supposed to be talking about WEST VIRGINIA doing the horns-down, not the Sooners. :)

Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: FearlessF on October 01, 2019, 02:21:05 PM
I blame Bobby Stoops
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: Mr Tulip on October 01, 2019, 02:22:24 PM
Not all horns-down is created equal.

Doing it on the sideline or in the stands with your team - all part of the game.
Running towards the Texas student section doing it - good way to get things out of control quickly.

Doing it when you're not playing Texas (and, in some cases, don't even have them on the foreseeable schedule) - just off-message entirely.

Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 01, 2019, 03:00:06 PM
I blame Bobby Stoops
That guy hates puppies.  And Jesus.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: BrownCounty on October 01, 2019, 03:45:55 PM
Ain't nobody got the moral high ground on this one.

The lowest of the low is the TUCK FEXAS shirt.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: BrownCounty on October 01, 2019, 03:46:54 PM
Doing it when you're not playing Texas (and, in some cases, don't even have them on the foreseeable schedule) - just off-message entirely.

You mean like the Aggie Fight song?
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 01, 2019, 03:54:42 PM
The lowest of the low is the TUCK FEXAS shirt.
That one has been replaced by the one that just says the actual words without the "clever" transposition of first letters.  No lie, people are wearing those around the State Fair now.  
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: Mr Tulip on October 01, 2019, 04:03:19 PM
You mean like the Aggie Fight song?
Well, there's a traditional element to that. I can't criticize too much.

My point is to watch the crowd when 0u or TAMU are playing, well, anyone else on the planet. It's tough for the crowd cam to clear 20 fans before at least one is throwing the "horns down".

It's like wearing your TCU shirt to a Baylor/oSu game. Don't be that guy.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: FearlessF on October 01, 2019, 06:05:02 PM
The lowest of the low is the TUCK FEXAS shirt.
oh, we all know they can go much lower than this
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 02, 2019, 04:12:11 PM
Let's get this thread back on track--

https://twitter.com/WVUBarstool/status/1179048813018976261/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/WVUBarstool/status/1179048813018976261/photo/1)


Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 02, 2019, 04:23:56 PM
And then there's this:

https://twitter.com/SeanManning_DP/status/1103684822403301377/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/SeanManning_DP/status/1103684822403301377/photo/1)

Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: Cincydawg on October 02, 2019, 04:30:07 PM
Does it confer credit to your rival when you call them out in some fashion that is unique to them?

Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 02, 2019, 04:42:30 PM
Sam remembers.

https://twitter.com/TheVFCastro/status/1059189396635860993/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/TheVFCastro/status/1059189396635860993/photo/1)
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: FearlessF on October 02, 2019, 05:15:15 PM
Does it confer credit to your rival when you call them out in some fashion that is unique to them?


yes, I only wish the Huskers were hated as much as the wHorns
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: longhorn320 on October 02, 2019, 06:19:29 PM
yes, I only wish the Huskers were hated as much as the wHorns
We Texans work hard at being hated

Knowing when you go into a game that if the other team beats you it makes their season is kinda nice

Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 02, 2019, 06:47:12 PM
We Texans work hard at being hated

Knowing when you go into a game that if the other team beats you it makes their season is kinda nice


And knowing that if you beat them, it ruins their entire season, no matter who else they might beat all year-- that feels even better.  


>:(
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: CWSooner on October 02, 2019, 07:22:40 PM
And knowing that if you beat them, it ruins their entire season, no matter who else they might beat all year-- that feels even better. 


>:(
It didn't ruin our season last year.
I doubt that it ruined Rice's season this year.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 02, 2019, 11:40:22 PM
Lulz.  Yeah ok.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: Kris60 on October 03, 2019, 05:41:34 AM
And then there's this:

https://twitter.com/SeanManning_DP/status/1103684822403301377/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/SeanManning_DP/status/1103684822403301377/photo/1)


Lol.  Well, in fairness, if people affiliated with Texas didn’t act like it bothered them so damn much people wouldn’t have nearly as much fun doing it.  But when Ehlinger goes on twitter promising to remember it and officials are flagging it because it’s considered taunting UT then it sort of just takes off from there.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: longhorn320 on October 03, 2019, 07:51:20 AM
Kris I think youre gonna see a much different Texas team this year

It will be interesting
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: Kris60 on October 03, 2019, 08:08:43 AM
Kris I think youre gonna see a much different Texas team this year

It will be interesting
Nah, I don’t expect to see a terribly different Texas team.  I thought Texas was pretty solid last year and watched large chunks of the LSU and Ok St games and was impressed again this year.  The difference in this year’s game will have a lot more to do with the difference of the WVU team from last year to this year.

I honestly don’t expect it to be much of a game.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: longhorn320 on October 03, 2019, 10:14:45 AM
Nah, I don’t expect to see a terribly different Texas team.  I thought Texas was pretty solid last year and watched large chunks of the LSU and Ok St games and was impressed again this year.  The difference in this year’s game will have a lot more to do with the difference of the WVU team from last year to this year.

I honestly don’t expect it to be much of a game.
Dont try that crap on us

We invented it
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 03, 2019, 10:45:35 AM
No kidding.  I ain't buying it.

As always I'd be delighted with a 1-point win headed out of Morgantown.

Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: BrownCounty on October 03, 2019, 11:15:15 AM
As always I'd be delighted with a 1-point win headed out of Morgantown.

Me too.  But I would tell myself it's because we were thinking about OU.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 03, 2019, 03:16:25 PM
Sure, we gotta rationalize it somehow!
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: Kris60 on October 04, 2019, 06:06:00 AM
Dont try that crap on us

We invented it
Lol.  Nah, if I thought WVU was any good and had a chance to win the game I’d pick ‘em.  I picked them to win last year in Austin. This is a different team though.  Squeaked by James Madison.  Squeaked by Kansas.  Got handled by Missouri.  Nobody hopes I’m wrong more than me but last I checked Texas is something like an 11 point favorite and I’ll be really surprised if they don’t cover that pretty easily.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: Cincydawg on October 04, 2019, 07:03:13 AM
Have Texas fans caught on to SEC excuses?

We have quite a few, you mentioned a couple.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 04, 2019, 08:05:12 AM
Well we can't really use the patented "didn't want to be there because it was only the Sugar Bowl" excuse for this weekend. ;)

But "trap game" is a universal excuse that should work just fine if we lose.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: Cincydawg on October 04, 2019, 08:08:07 AM
If you need more excuses, I have a handy list.

"Our third string long snapper was banged up." is a good one.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: Mr Tulip on October 04, 2019, 09:22:41 AM
Kris has the evidence in this one. I'm afraid this may be one of those times not to mock the ECFGs.

WVU has the right coach and is on the right track. However, when Holgo left, a ton of talent did too. They didn't jibe with the new guy for whatever reason (it happens to every program), and now their roster is sorely depleted.

Now, the game is played by 18-22 year old males with a funky shaped object. Anything is possible, and a 'eers win isn't outside uncertainty. On the contrary, it's certainly inside uncertainty (I just wanted to type that and have you read it). In the total, though, Texas is simply better at everything WVU wants to do.

Like most defenses that have to choose, I expect the Mountaineer defense to choose early on to clog the run. It's the right way to bet, but it relies on Texas making mistakes. Sam simply has to be on the same page as his receivers as he has all season. WVU is the last team in the league that wants to hear Texas' woes about a depleted secondary. They started with nobody and lost the somebodys who filled in.

The Mountaineer offense aims for 24 points. With enough possessions, they may get there. They're not terrible, they just have to choose what to do. Texas is vulnerable in the back end (if anything), but WVU can't threaten that in multiple places without advertising it. It will just be too easy to get that offense behind the chains, turn them predictable, and snuff it out.

They have a bright future, but they're in the midst of program turnover. Texas will seek to manage this game for the win, so the 11 points could be right, but that feels kinda light to me.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 04, 2019, 11:48:01 AM
Kris has the evidence in this one. I'm afraid this may be one of those times not to mock the ECFGs.

WVU has the right coach and is on the right track. However, when Holgo left, a ton of talent did too. They didn't jibe with the new guy for whatever reason (it happens to every program), and now their roster is sorely depleted.

Now, the game is played by 18-22 year old males with a funky shaped object. Anything is possible, and a 'eers win isn't outside uncertainty. On the contrary, it's certainly inside uncertainty (I just wanted to type that and have you read it). In the total, though, Texas is simply better at everything WVU wants to do.

Like most defenses that have to choose, I expect the Mountaineer defense to choose early on to clog the run. It's the right way to bet, but it relies on Texas making mistakes. Sam simply has to be on the same page as his receivers as he has all season. WVU is the last team in the league that wants to hear Texas' woes about a depleted secondary. They started with nobody and lost the somebodys who filled in.

The Mountaineer offense aims for 24 points. With enough possessions, they may get there. They're not terrible, they just have to choose what to do. Texas is vulnerable in the back end (if anything), but WVU can't threaten that in multiple places without advertising it. It will just be too easy to get that offense behind the chains, turn them predictable, and snuff it out.

They have a bright future, but they're in the midst of program turnover. Texas will seek to manage this game for the win, so the 11 points could be right, but that feels kinda light to me.

The above highlighted in red is sadly not QUITE true.  Sam's play in the first quarter against LSU was just abysmal.  Missing wide open receivers, not putting the ball in the right place when he did manage to see them.  Ingram's dropped TD pass didn't help either of course.  But other than that 15 minutes of hell, yeah, he's been very crisp.

Also agree Texas is going to attempt to manage this game, and play for NEXT week against the Sooners.  In general I dislike that and believe it to be courting trouble, but we'll see.  I don't think I'd bet the spread for Texas here because I don't think Texas is going to try to blow it out on offense.  Maybe a defensive score might put it over the top, but we don't seem to do that much under Herman/Orlando, the way we did pretty well under Mack.

Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: FearlessF on October 04, 2019, 12:02:34 PM
I took Texas and gave the points

darn well better cover!
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 04, 2019, 12:11:32 PM
Don't bet on it, Fearless.  IF Texas were fortunate enough to get into position to push for a big lead, I expect Herman to take his foot off the gas, and potentially pull key players early, to keep everyone healthy and rested before the OU game next week.

Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: FearlessF on October 04, 2019, 12:19:25 PM
It's only 11.5 points

not many coaches take their foot off the gas with less than a 2 TD lead
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: Kris60 on October 06, 2019, 10:38:45 AM
Nice win, Longhorns.  WVU actually played them tougher than I expected.  I thought this would be one of those games where Texas maintained a lead between 17-20 points most of the game and we were never in it.  The back to back INTS in the 4th quarter are when the game finally got away.

I’ll tell ya a quick story about my day with my daughter.  We got to our seats early and sat directly behind some guy and his wife.  After a few minutes my daughter asks to trade me seats because she can’t see over him.  I trade her seats and realize he’s even somewhat blocking my field of vision and I’m 6’2.  This is a big dude.  So when we all stand for the national anthem I notice the top of his wife’s head only comes up to his elbow.  I even nudged my daughter and pointed it out.  This guy was really abnormally big.

Anyway, at halftime some guy comes up to him and taps him shoulder wanting a picture.  When the big dude turns around it’s Kevin Pittsnogle who played basketball for WVU from 2002-2006.  He was a key member of a couple of John Beilein’s teams here that were really good.  I don’t know if any of you Texas guys would remember him but he played on the team in 2006 when WVU and Texas played in the Sweet 16.  He hit a 3 with just a few seconds left to tie it up and then Kenton Paulino came down drained a 3 at the buzzer to give UT the win.

I tried to explain to my little girl who he was and what an icon he was here for a little while (Anyone remember someone coining the term, “You just not Pittsnogled!” When he hit a 3?).  I don’t think it registered with her though.  We also saw Major Harris at a store signing autographs.  Tried to explain to her who he was but, again, I think it went in one ear and out the other.  We had a really good day though.

Good luck the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: longhorn320 on October 06, 2019, 01:12:13 PM
Butt ugly game

Too many penalties for us

Too many picks for you

Just glad for the W

Good luck the rest of the season Kris
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 07, 2019, 07:41:45 AM
I remember Pitsnoggle!  Cool story, bro. (and I mean that :) ).

Tough game as I expected.  Best of luck the rest of the season, Kris!

Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: BrownCounty on October 07, 2019, 08:21:38 AM
Too many picks for you

I would not credit WVU offense for at least 2, maybe 3 of those picks.

Can defense get credit for anything anymore?
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: longhorn320 on October 07, 2019, 10:56:03 AM
I would not credit WVU offense for at least 2, maybe 3 of those picks.

Can defense get credit for anything anymore?
Not sure what your gripe is BC
My point was no matter why they occurred 4 picks is just too many to win a game
now go outside and play
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: BrownCounty on October 07, 2019, 11:04:37 AM
My point was no matter why they occurred 4 picks is just too many to win a game

And you attributed the picks to oSu offense.

Everybody's an offense millennial these days.
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: longhorn320 on October 07, 2019, 11:12:27 AM
And you attributed the picks to oSu offense.

Everybody's an offense millennial these days.
and just where did I do that
been smokin Austin's finest there BC
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: utee94 on October 07, 2019, 12:12:03 PM
i didn't read lh320's comment that way, I read it exactly the way he clarified it subsequently.  Which is to say, 4 INTs is just too many to overcome.  Appears to be true.

Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: Cincydawg on October 07, 2019, 12:15:41 PM
Yup, 4 turnovers has the impact of 12-20 points on a game if not offset by others.

Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: FearlessF on October 07, 2019, 12:41:20 PM
I would not credit WVU offense for at least 2, maybe 3 of those picks.

Can defense get credit for anything anymore?
why should the defense get so much credit for picks?  3 things can happen when you pass the ball, 2 of them are bad.  If the offense would have run the wishbone and had no passes the defense would have nothing
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: longhorn320 on October 07, 2019, 12:49:46 PM
why should the defense get so much credit for picks?  3 things can happen when you pass the ball, 2 of them are bad.  If the offense would have run the wishbone and had no passes the defense would have nothing
way back in the 60s and 70s Texas used to pass off the wishbone all the time ala Cotton Speyrer

In fact without the treat of a pass the wishbone would have been far lass potent 
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: BrownCounty on October 07, 2019, 01:21:26 PM
why should the defense get so much credit for picks?

Texas had some athletic and acrobatic picks vs. WVU.  At least 3 of them most defenses would not have come up with.  One of them was squarely on the QB.

3 things can happen when you pass the ball, 2 of them are bad.

DKR lived in the day when refs let them play.  Now we have 4 things, and 2 of them are good.

If the offense would have run the wishbone and had no passes the defense would have nothing

If WVU had forfeited and never kicked off the Texas defense wouldn't have anything either.

Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: FearlessF on October 07, 2019, 01:45:14 PM
way back in the 60s and 70s Texas used to pass off the wishbone all the time ala Cotton Speyrer

In fact without the treat of a pass the wishbone would have been far lass potent
the TightEnd is ALWAYS wide open
Title: Re: Hey Texas
Post by: longhorn320 on October 07, 2019, 02:02:52 PM
the TightEnd is ALWAYS wide open
especially when they played Arkansas via Randy Paschal