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Title: Northwestern (0-2, 1-3) @ #8 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-0) Post Game
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 23, 2019, 07:58:12 AM
On to the next one.

The Cats didn't look good against MSU, and here comes another top defense this weekend.

Still, Fitz always has his guys pumped for UW. I expect a close game here, despite the line of 21 points the wise guys laid out there.
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-1, 1-2) @ #8 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) Game Week
Post by: fezzador on September 23, 2019, 08:06:09 AM
Northwestern doesn't seem to be very good this year.  They gave up over 30 to Sparty, who could only score 7 points at home against ASU (which I'm not sold on).

Wisconsin is firing on all cylinders and appear to be chomping at the bit to knock off OSU.  I'd actually take UW to cover the spread and then some.

37-7 Badgers.
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-1, 1-2) @ #8 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 23, 2019, 09:45:34 AM
https://twitter.com/BadgerFootball/status/1175937827701501952

Title: Re: Northwestern (0-1, 1-2) @ #8 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 23, 2019, 11:27:24 AM
https://twitter.com/JakeKoco/status/1176149828935589888

Title: Re: Northwestern (0-1, 1-2) @ #8 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 23, 2019, 11:28:07 AM
https://twitter.com/JakeKoco/status/1176149500748062721

Title: Re: Northwestern (0-1, 1-2) @ #8 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) Game Week
Post by: fezzador on September 23, 2019, 11:30:57 AM
Luke Benzschawel - I take it he's Beau's brother?  Maybe cousin (cue Dukes of Hazzard jokes)
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-1, 1-2) @ #8 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 23, 2019, 11:35:22 AM
Brother. And another brother is committed to play for Big Red too. 2021 recruit. It's like a Watt thing, I hope.

John (FB) and (ILB) Leo Chenal are brothers on the team now, and there is another one UW is watching (walk-on, maybe). John laid out some brutal blocks on Saturday. Leo only played on special teams.
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-1, 1-2) @ #8 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) Game Week
Post by: ELA on September 25, 2019, 11:27:24 AM


Northwestern Wildcats (0-1, 1-2) at #8 Wisconsin Badgers (1-0, 3-0)
NOON - Madison, WI - ABC
Wisconsin's defense may yet be every bit as elite as they have looked.  At the same time, Wisconsin's first three opponents have offensive SP+ of #122 (South Florida), #120 (Central Michigan), and #72 (Michigan).  So I'm not sure how much we can know yet.  And we'll get to wait another week, because Northwestern (#126) is the worst offense they've faced to date.  I think Pat Fitzgerald surprised some folks when Clemson quarterback Hunter Johnson wasn't named the starter Day 1, with a battle with the returning T.J. Green extending into the opener against Stanford.  Green's season ending injury certainly cleared things up right?  Nope.  After a third straight lackluster performance, where he was 15-26 for 88 yards and a pick, Johnson was benched in favor of 3rd string quarterback Aidan Smith, who in his fourth year on campus had never seen the field.  Smith was actually worse, going 4-11 for 38 yards and 2 picks.  It's Hunter Johnson or bust, and while every year I say THIS is the year Northwestern doesn't rebound from a bad start, Johnson just looks horrible.  Really, his receivers deserve better, bailing him out at least four times with amazing catches on bad throws.  It's also looking more and more like Drake Anderson has to be the back, with Isaiah Bowser so far unable to recapture his 2018 mojo.  Granted he was coming back from injury, facing arguably the top defense in the nation.  But he had just 39 yards on 3.0 ypc, with over half of those yards coming on one run.  The Northwestern defense is better than the final score would indicate, they simply got put in bad situation after bad situation.  They better get a lot better against the run this week though.  The numbers look great, holding MSU to 109 rushing yards, on just 2.7 ypc.  But they allowed the Spartan's top two rushers to average 4.7 ypc on 20 carries.  They made that up by holding MSU's quarterbacks, late game mop up duty RBs, and a failed trick play end around to 3 yards on 19 carries to buffer the overall numbers.  If Elijah Collins and Connor Heyward could run on them, oh boy, it's Jonathan Taylor time.  Taylor absolutely shredded Michigan's defense last week, and only played a portion of the game.  It will be interesting to see how much he plays, or if there are lingering injury issues, because for the first time in forever, I'm not sold that Wisconsin has a stable back there.  Bradrick Shaw and Garrett Groshek combined for 93 yards on 7 carries, but each had one long run, and the back who saw the most action behind Taylor, Nakia Watson, looked awful.  Wisconsin can win this week without Taylor, and next week against Kent State, but I'd like to see them limit his workload a little bit before they have Michigan State, Ohio State and Iowa in a three game stretch, where a fresh and healthy Taylor is a necessity.
WISCONSIN 37, NORTHWESTERN 10

Title: Re: Northwestern (0-1, 1-2) @ #8 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) Game Week
Post by: SFBadger96 on September 25, 2019, 11:55:51 AM
Missing the starting safeties for the first half isn't good for the Badgers. And Northwestern routinely puts in good performances against Badger teams. Nonetheless, it's hard to see Wisconsin's defense allowing much from Northwestern, and conversely, it's hard to see Northwestern's defense stopping the Badgers much. I rarely see a blowout coming in conference games, but at home against this version of Northwestern? I'll be surprised if it is as close as a 27-point game.
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-1, 1-2) @ #8 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on September 25, 2019, 11:58:29 AM
missing the starting safeties in the 2nd half vs Michigan wasn't that bad
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-1, 1-2) @ #8 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) Game Week
Post by: SFBadger96 on September 25, 2019, 12:11:55 PM
They gave up the first points of the season without them. ~???
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-1, 1-2) @ #8 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on September 25, 2019, 01:02:14 PM
only 14
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-1, 1-2) @ #8 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 25, 2019, 01:57:54 PM
14 too many.
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-1, 1-2) @ #8 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 25, 2019, 02:02:29 PM
Wisconsin does not seem like the kind of team that is very susceptible to the let down thing.

I'd guess a 37-10 kind of score as well.
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-1, 1-2) @ #8 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) Game Week
Post by: SFBadger96 on September 25, 2019, 02:18:44 PM
While I hope that is right, I do have a nagging concern that if we're all still talking about the Michigan game, how much is the team still thinking about it, when they need to prepare for Northwestern?

Hopefully not much.

PS I'm sure I'm not the only one who misses Marcel's input on this game.
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-1, 1-2) @ #8 Wisconsin (1-0, 3-0) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 26, 2019, 01:26:22 PM
Interesting about Leo Chenal, who was not on the report Monday.

https://twitter.com/JakeKoco/status/1177251373722812419
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-2, 1-3) @ #8 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-0) Post Game
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 28, 2019, 03:53:34 PM
On to the next one.

The Cats didn't look good against MSU, and here comes another top defense this weekend.

Still, Fitz always has his guys pumped for UW. I expect a close game here, despite the line of 21 points the wise guys laid out there.
So yeah, NU puts up the fight I expected. Its offense outscored UW's 15-10. Gotta clean that up.


Why Fitz went for 2 points twice is beyond me. That could have changed the game had he taken the points.


Also, in what is good news for NU, it appears they found a QB. Hunter Johnson is NOT the answer in Evanston.
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-2, 1-3) @ #8 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-0) Post Game
Post by: TyphonInc on September 28, 2019, 04:46:09 PM
Why Fitz went for 2 points twice is beyond me. That could have changed the game had he taken the points.

The 1st one was a big head scratcher, the 2nd was to make up for screwing the pooch on the 1st. 
But yah, it should have been a 7 point game with 4 minutes left.
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-2, 1-3) @ #8 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-0) Post Game
Post by: Hawkinole on September 28, 2019, 11:43:29 PM
This may expose Wisconsin to a weakness; i.e.  opponents with stellar defenses.
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-2, 1-3) @ #8 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-0) Post Game
Post by: bayareabadger on September 29, 2019, 08:59:47 AM
So yeah, NU puts up the fight I expected. Its offense outscored UW's 15-10. Gotta clean that up.


Why Fitz went for 2 points twice is beyond me. That could have changed the game had he taken the points.


Also, in what is good news for NU, it appears they found a QB. Hunter Johnson is NOT the answer in Evanston.
I've read there's some statistical backing for going for 2 early. Basically, you gotta do it at least once. So if you do it early, you know if you have to play more desperate. 

Basically, if you go early, you don't grind out a long late drive only to need the 2 and miss right and the end. You'd rather be down 9, know you need two drives and play accordingly. That's the theory anyway.
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-2, 1-3) @ #8 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-0) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on September 29, 2019, 09:37:11 AM
true
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-2, 1-3) @ #8 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-0) Post Game
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 29, 2019, 10:51:30 AM
This may expose Wisconsin to a weakness; i.e.  opponents with stellar defenses.
Any stellar defense if going to stop a good offense. NU's game plan was perfect, as it normally is against UW.
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-2, 1-3) @ #8 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-0) Post Game
Post by: Cincydawg on September 29, 2019, 11:20:34 AM
A balanced offense is usually toughest to slow down.  Mobile QBs are often very tough on even a good defense.  This is one reason Ohio State and Oklahoma perhaps merit some serious consideration for teams able to overcome good Ds.
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-2, 1-3) @ #8 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-0) Post Game
Post by: bayareabadger on September 29, 2019, 12:46:18 PM

The 1st one was a big head scratcher, the 2nd was to make up for screwing the pooch on the 1st.
But yah, it should have been a 7 point game with 4 minutes left.
Initially I thought we were talking about being down 15 for some reason. Yeah, that first one isn't mathematically sound, though to be fair, it would've taken a flurry of miracles to be within seven at all. 
Title: Re: Northwestern (0-2, 1-3) @ #8 Wisconsin (2-0, 4-0) Post Game
Post by: CWSooner on September 29, 2019, 05:42:38 PM
I've read there's some statistical backing for going for 2 early. Basically, you gotta do it at least once. So if you do it early, you know if you have to play more desperate.

Basically, if you go early, you don't grind out a long late drive only to need the 2 and miss right and the end. You'd rather be down 9, know you need two drives and play accordingly. That's the theory anyway.
I agree with that theory.
If the prime object is to win, as opposed to being able to say that you only lost by 2 because you failed on the conversion, then the theory makes perfect sense.