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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: medinabuckeye1 on September 21, 2019, 11:07:36 AM
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Link to last week's rankings (https://www.cfb51.com/big-ten/b1g-power-rankings-week-3-11300/).
Votes through @Temp430 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=131) , 13 voters:
(https://i.imgur.com/bagxx5y.png)
Drop the high and low:
(https://i.imgur.com/lDTVYsy.png)
Graph showing changes so far this year:
(https://i.imgur.com/Kops6FQ.jpg)
Change so far this year (aka COTY prediction):
(https://i.imgur.com/BW4kpSe.jpg)
Vote distribution:
(https://i.imgur.com/ojqMi9g.jpg)
Schedule/performance chart:
(https://i.imgur.com/TC4pa1f.png)
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1. Wisconsin: Put a straight up whipping on Michigan, and showed their dominance the first two weeks was for real. Very confident and complete team.
2. Ohio State: Finally hitting some meat as they head to Nebraska and see what exactly they are cooking with.
3. Iowa: Fairly competent, which goes pretty far.
4. Michigan State: Good win against Northwestern. Going to be a tough out for everyone.
5. Penn State: Still not sure they can score
6. Michigan: Haven't shown any life on offense, and the defense may not be able to bail them out.
7. Maryland: I guess, even though Temple lost.
8. Nebraska: Rare that a team has nearly 700 yards, gives up fewer than 300 yards, and is in a barnburner.
9. Minnesota: Here they are.
10. Purdue: Trying to get healthy
11. Indians: Won a game
12. Northwestern: Not their year
13. Illinois: Nice effort
14: Rutgers: Rutgers
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8. Nebraska: Rare that a team has nearly 700 yards, gives up fewer than 300 yards, and is in a barnburner.
4 turnovers
penalties
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1) Wisconsin
2) Ohio State
3) Michigan State
4) Penn State
5) Michigan
6) Iowa
7) Maryland?
8) Minnesota?
9) Nebraska?
10) Purdue
11) Northwestern
12) Indiana
13) Illinois
14) Rutgers
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1. OSU
2. Wisc
3. PSU
4. Iowa
5. MSU
6. MD
7. Neb
8. Mich
9. NW
10. Indy
11. Minn
12. Purdue
13. ILL
14. Rut
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1. Ohio State
2. Wisconsin
3. Iowa
4. Penn State
5. Michigan State
6. Michigan
7. Maryland
8. Nebraska
9. Minnesota
10. Indiana
11. Purdue
12. Northwestern
13. Illinois
14.
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1. OSU
2. Wisconsin
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3. PSU
4. Iowa
5. MSU
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6. Northwestern
7. Michigan
8. Nebraska
9. Minnesota
10.Purdue
11. Maryland
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12. Indiana
13. Illinois
14. Rutger
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1) Ohio State
2) Wisconsin
3) Penn State
4) Iowa
5) Michigan
6) Michigan State
7) Maryland
8) Minnesota
9) Nebraska
10) Purdue
11) Northwestern
12) Indiana
13) Illinois
14) Rutgers
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1 Ohio State - Rocky Start erased by a 40+ point second quarter.
2 Wisconsin - Took their foot off the gas/throat down the stretch.
3 Penn State - You can win a lot of games with that D.
4 Iowa - Gonna park 'em here for now. PSU and M await after this week's final tune up.
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5 Michigan State - three strong showings, and a close loss at home.
6 Michigan - I won't torch them for the Wisconsin loss. They have a week to get things figured out before Iowa.
7 Maryland - The Temple loss looks a lot worse, but they can still hang their shell on those first two outings for now. They have Penn St this week.
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8 Minnesota - They haven't played anyone, but are undefeated. So they get to sit atop the scrap heap for the time being.
9 Nebraska - Becoming the B1G West version of Michigan, where they are the top team in the division up until the season starts.
10 Northwestern - Still not ready to write these guys off entirely.
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11 Indiana - At 3-1 these guys could still make some noise. Next five games are MSU, Rutgers, Maryland, Nebraska and Northwestern. They could maybe put together a little bit of a run there. Or not.
12 Illinois - Both losses were close.
13 Purdue - One of the losses was close, and the other wasn't.
14 Rutgers - I'll move them up a spot or three if they can catch the Wolverines napping this week.
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1. Wisconsin
2. Ohio State
3. Iowa
4. Michigan
5. Penn State
6. Michigan State
7. Maryland
8. Nebraska
9. Northwestern
10. Minnesota
11. Purdue
12. Indiana
13. Illinois
14. Rutgers
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I will weigh-in.
1. Wisconsin (2) (2) (4) (8) - My 1st impression midway through the 1st qtr. of Miami-OSU was this was obvious. I am going with my first impression. Wisconsin has every tool in the box. And, it has been tested. A play-off contender.
2. Ohio State (1) (1) (1) (2) - Slow start; then dominated Miami.
3. Penn State (4) (4) (3) (7) - Had a nice weekend..
4. Iowa (5) (6) (6) (9) - Had a nice weekend.
5. Michigan (3) (2) (1) - Seems like they should be pushed down lower but there is no one else to elevate, and they faced the best the Big Ten has to offer.
6. Michigan State (6) (5) (5) (5) - Middle of the class.
7. Maryland (8) (7) (9) (12) - A restive weekend.
8. Nebraska (10) (10) (11) (3) - Lots of offense. Lots of ball insecurity.
9. Illinois (9) (8) (8) (13) - Illinois is much improved from the past several years. Inconsistent passing game.
10. Northwestern (7) (9) (7) (4) - Another loss. Not your older brother's Northwestern.
11. Minnesota (11) (11) (12) (6) - A restive weekend..
12. Indiana (12) (12) (13) (10) - An entertaining win over a weak opponent.
13. Purdue (13) (13) (14) (11) - A restive weekend.
14. Rutgers (14) (14) (10) (14) - I thought they were going to win the way they played in the 1st half. But, its Rutgers. Not entirely inept, just mostly.
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1) Ohio State: until someone knocks it off.
2) Wisconsin: ignoring modesty for a moment: this team looks good.
3) Penn State: idle
4) Iowa: idle
5) Michigan State: defense, defense, defense.
6) Michigan: unflattering long-term arrows; still has the athletes to beat everyone below here.
7) Northwestern? But not because it is any good.
8) Maryland: idle
9) Minnesota: idle
10) Nebraska: Wins are good?
11) Purdue: idle
12) Indiana: UConn
13) Illinois: competitive? Still a loser.
14) Rutgers: BC isn’t good, but it’s no Rutgers.
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9 Nebraska - Becoming the B1G West version of Michigan, where they are the top team in the division up until the season starts.
that's unnecessary
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that's unnecessary
And horrible karma/timing
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1) Ohio State - No reason to move them down
2) Wisconsin - Looking like the team to beat this year
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3) Penn State - Great defense. Still not sold on them at this spot.
4) Iowa
5) Michigan State - Finally showed some offense.
5) Michigan - Were physically abused in that game. Would move them down but no other team looks any better.
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7) Maryland
8) Minnesota
9) Nebraska - Need to work on ball security.
10) Indiana
11) Northwestern
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12) Purdue
13) Illinois - Took advantage of Husker miscue's but failed to close it out.
14) Rutgers - Apparently the linemen don't like long plays as evidenced by the center punching the QB after a long TD.
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5) Michigan State - Finally showed some offense.
5) Michigan - Were physically abused in that game. Would move them down but no other team looks any better.
I read this to mean:
- #5 Michigan State
- #6 Michigan
Let me know if that is incorrect.
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- Ohio State - 1,1,1,1 - Did pretty much what they were expected to do.
- Wisconsin - 2,2,4,3 - My hardest decision in making these rankings was between tOSU and UW for #1. The Badgers have been more impressive so far but I'm just not ready to say they are the better team yet. Time will tell.
- Penn State - 3,3,3,4 - Off.
- Iowa - 5,6,5,6 - Off.
- Michigan - 4,4,2,2 - That was ugly.
- Michigan State - 7,7,7,9 - The offense appears to be better than last year but that isn't saying much.
- Maryland - 8,5,8,11 - Off.
- Nebraska - 6,9,6,8 - I expected better.
- Northwestern - 9,10,9,7 - Now they'll improve and upset someone.
- Minnesota - 10,8,13,10 - Off.
- Indiana - 11,13,12,12 - Nice bounce-back.
- Purdue - 12,11,10,5 - Off.
- Illinois - 13,12,11,13 - Oh so close.
- Rutgers - 14,14,14,14 - Still Rutgers.
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1. Ohio State
2. Wisconsin
3. Iowa
4. Penn State
5. Michigan State
6. Michigan
7. Nebraska
8. Northwestern
9. Minnesota
10. Purdue
11. Maryland
12. Indiana
13. Illinois
14. Rutgers
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Results posted, votes through @Temp430 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=131) , 13 voters.
We still seem pretty unsure of the middle but most of us now agree at least on the top five and the bottom three.
The schedule continues to look more and more favorable for the Buckeyes and Badgers.
Here, per our rankings, are the top-4 contenders in the East:
(https://i.imgur.com/ga4B8GH.png)
Note that Ohio State's toughest road game is at #6 Michigan and their second toughest is at #8 Nebraska. By contrast Penn State has to play their three toughest opponents on the road (#1 tOSU, #4 IA, #5 MSU). The Spartans have to visit Columbus, Madison, and Ann Arbor. The Wolverines host the Buckeyes but they already lost in Madison and they still have to visit State College and College Park.
Here, per our rankings, are the top-4 contenders in the West:
(https://i.imgur.com/TgIync0.png)
Nebraska has the theoretically easiest schedule but their four point win at Illinois hardly inspires confidence. The Badgers have to visit Columbus but they host their next two best opponents (#4 IA, #5 MSU). The Hawkeyes have to visit Madision, Ann Arbor, and Lincoln. Minnesota's schedule is similar to Nebraska's, but their nailbiters against bad teams do not inspire confidence that they can take out any of the better teams in the league.
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luckily for the Huskers and Gophers games aren't decided on confidence
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Unlucky for the Wolverines. ;-)
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- OHIO STATE (1) - what else is left to say
- WISCONSIN (2) - looking increasingly likely for a matchup of unbeatens on October 26
- PENN STATE (3) - bye week
- IOWA (5) - bye week
- MICHIGAN STATE (6) - offense is improved, but not enough to overcome the still numerous gaffs
- MICHIGAN (4) - 2 weeks of prep time was not enough, will be interesting to see how they come out against Rutgers
- MARYLAND (7) - bye week
- MINNESOTA (9) - bye week
- INDIANA (11) - I don't think there's a team in the conference I have less of a read on
- NEBRASKA (10) - escaped in Champaign, in a game I thought was going to be very close
- PURDUE (12) - bye week
- NORTHWESTERN (8) - offense looks like a total disaster, or is it just another Northwestern September?
- ILLINOIS (13) - Nebraska tried their darndest to hand this one to the Illini
- RUTGERS (14) - Rutgers football = where staying within 2 scores of a team at home, coming off a loss to Kansas seems like improvement
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1. Ohio State - Nothing to say. Dominating.
2. Wisconsin - No doubt at this point. I can't believe I had them so low in the preseason.
3. Iowa
4. Michigan State
5. Michigan - They don't deserve to be raked over the coals by the media. Wisconsin is a good team, Michigan is still trying to find their identity. I expect them to finish strong.
6. Maryland - I still think they will beat Penn State on Friday.
7. Penn State - Got some problems, look to address them in the bye week. Hopefully if they lose they don't get beat up in the media like Michigan has.
8. Nebraska
9. Minnesota
10. Northwestern - tough schedule, I think they are a better team than this.
11. Purdue
12. Indiana
13. Illinois
14. Rutgers
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I read this to mean:
- #5 Michigan State
- #6 Michigan
Let me know if that is incorrect.
I should proof read before I post. But you are correct, I meant for Mich St #5 and M #6.
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1. Wisconsin (--) - Best Win so Far
2. Ohio State (+2) - Still beating up Patsies
3. Penn State (--) - By default
4. Iowa (+2) - Why not, top of the east not looking as strong.
5. Michigan State (+2) - Good Win
6. Michigan (2-) - That was an @ss kicking
7. Maryland (-2) - I almost moved them above MeatChicken, but that Temple loss, I almost moved them to the bottom half.
8. Nebraska -
9. Northwestern -
10. Minnesota -
11. Indiana -
12. Purdue -
13. Illinois -
14. Rutgers - worst
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Updated Massey composite computer ranks, with 67 rankings (last week in parenthesis)
- Clemson (1)
- OHIO STATE (3)
- Alabama (2)
- Georgia (5)
- Auburn (8)
- LSU (4)
- WISCONSIN (11)
- Oklahoma (7)
- Notre Dame (6)
- PENN STATE (12)
- Florida (9)
- Oregon (18)
- Texas (15)
- IOWA (13)
- Washington (21)
- Mississippi State (22)
- Kansas State (20)
- Boise State (24)
- MICHIGAN STATE (-)
- Central Florida (10)
- Missouri (25)
- Texas A&M (16)
- Oklahoma State (23)
- Virginia (-)
- California (-)
- 26. Michigan (14)
- 38. Maryland (37)
- 42. Minnesota (38)
- 43. Nebraska (45)
- 54. Indiana (68)
- 73. Northwestern (53)
- 82. Purdue (71)
- 93. Illinois (89)
- 111. Rutgers (106)
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FWIW:
After I posted the results through @Temp430 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=131) , I did note the votes of @ELA (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=55) , @Big Beef Tacosupreme (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1529) , and @TyphonInc (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=8) . I am not going to redo the results post because there were no major changes but their votes are included in the totals going forward.