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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: 847badgerfan on October 21, 2017, 02:55:08 AM
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Gonna hit the market in Barcelona this morning to get some provisions, and then get packed up to board the Azamara Quest for a journey across the Mediterranean to Civitavecchia. Should be a great day but I'm worried about finding football. Got my stream working with the help of my VPN so hopefully that will continue and I can catch a few of them.
What'cha all up to today?
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I'm probably missing everything. We are going to some get together out in the middle of nowhere. Not sure I'll even have a cell signal. Good timing with the Bucks being off, though I'd like to catch the UM/PSU and ND/USC games tonight.
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The cruise ship took my bottle of Woodford Reserve out of my luggage. I didn't know they didn't allow open bottles of booze. The Internet on the ship was spotty at best.
The Dawgs are on a bye week before the Florida game and not much is happening in the SEC other than UK at Clanga and the Third Weekend in October (which one would surmise will be ugly).
The weather here is great but turning cooler and we're off to LV and California Monday for a week. Taking the wife to four national parks in a convertible rental. I hope Tioga Pass stays open.
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bye weeks are great for end of the season golf
hitting Miles Inn for schooners and charlie boys while watching the Hawks and Cats, then to the golf course about 2pm when the rain subsides
wet, windy, 60 degree golf is better than no golf a tall.
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My rookie coaching campaign ends today w the season ending vball tournament. Fun season great group of girls. Unlike soccer and softball, I think my oldest daughter will return to volleyball.
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Oddly enough I am floating out on the general Mediterranean too, near mouth of the Adriatic between the coasts of Italy and Greece. I'll be running my ESPN Player app off ship's WIFI to catch what I can.
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It's currently raining sideways here in the Twin Cities. Not looking good for an 0830 arrival on the Flats. Loading in the rain isn't appealing.
At least it should stop by about 10.
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Internet seems pretty fast on this thing. So far, so good.
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It's currently raining sideways here in the Twin Cities. Not looking good for an 0830 arrival on the Flats. Loading in the rain isn't appealing.
At least it should stop by about 10.
gopher UP!
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Coaching my kids soccer teams this morning. Their jersey color is tenn orange. We might be making some modifications to them today.
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Coincidentally, I am at the Big Ten Cancer Research Consortium fall meeting in the BIG Headquarters next to ORD.
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Interesting it shares a building with a Fogo. Delaney must eat well. I'm hoping they show the Purdue/Rutgers game during lunch.
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Coaching my kids soccer teams this morning. Their jersey color is tenn orange. We might be making some modifications to them today.
Heh, I'd trust Saban to do any needed "modifications" today.
That could be ugly.
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Back in Michigan for the weekend to visit my elderly and not so healthy folks. Nice to see dirt and pine versus sand and palm for a change. It is a beautiful day here.
Should be done in time to watch Michigan versus Penn State, which I've been looking forward to all year Irresistible force versus immovable object!
The piece they just ran on college game day about "we are Penn State " was awesome.
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Working for another half hour, then head over to a buddies for the Iowa game. Then hanging out with the gfs family for the rest of the day.
Go Hawks!
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Argh. Got it all set up to watch BTN only to discover the game is on Fox - and they won't let me watch it online unless I'm at home. Kinda dumb, since if I was at home I would be watching it on... TELEVISION.
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The next door neighbors are having a "garage sale" and the wife is toting stuff over there to sell. I put out some ancient vinyl albums I had in a box as the fellow said they could sell for $5 each. Huh.
I still have my old turn table, have not fired it up in probably 35 years. I was an early adopter of CDs back in the day, had the very first Sony on the market. I wonder if it is worth anything special these days.
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It is Bridge Day in our little hometown of Fayetteville, WV. That's when base jumpers from all over the world come here to jump off our bridge that sets 876 feet above the gorge. Beautiful day for it, too. But I don't think I'm heading out that way.
My wife's family came in with their adopted son and I think I'll let them go to the bridge and I'll take the boys to a playground and then lunch at Chick-Fil-A. Then come back home later this afternoon and settle in for some football. WVU's 8pm kickoff unfortunately coincides with the two most interesting games on the slate today.
Nothing too fancy on the menu. My wife is going to make buffalo chicken dip and I'll probably pick up some shredded pork BBQ from a local deli here for sandwiches.
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Josey Jewell out today. Ugh, Justin Jackson over 200 yards rushing?
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If I saw this on the screen correctly, Fitz is 6-5 as HC vs. Iowa
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this Wadley dude is annoyingly good
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How many calls did Maryland submit to the office that were all called incorrectly again?
Did I hear, FIVE?!?
Admitted ALL were wrongly called?
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scoreless after 1 quarter
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Purdue's got their cowcatchers full in Piscataway.
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Change of plans for me, as I stayed home with the dogs while the fam went away. Great job by Texas - got a huge play where it looked like their guy might have stepped out of bounds. But before it got reviewed they got their whole team down and ran a play before anyone could blow a whistle. Exceptional coaching.
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Iowa strikes first with TD pass with :40 left in the 1st half .... ugh
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halftime score:
Iowa 7
NU 0
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3rd string QB
Porous defense
Bye Week for Wisconsin.
I really like Taylor though. Great patience and burst, much like Ty, but we're so one-dimensional he likely won't have another 100 yard game.
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Purdue played like absolute crap in the first half.
Dropped passes, dropped passes, penalties, poor decisions and execution.
I still feel this is their game to win though
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Jeremy Larkin rushing TD
PAT is good
Iowa 7
NU 7
- go 'Cats!
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Aaaaaand more drops to start the 2nd half.
This is pathetic
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WTF stat of the day so far. Texas Tech w/ 18 yds passing in the first half. Iowa State up big early. they torched the Red Raiders last year in Ames.
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Naturally the cable is cutting in and out today.
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Did the players think that ball was tipped?
The Maryland WR blatantly shoved the defender, then another defender comes in and decks the Maryland WR?
They missed the offensive PI, caught the dirty late hit.
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Terps OL is pretty solid run blocking, but can't pass block a lick.
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Bucky might want to call timeout if they find themselves with a linebacker matched up on Taivon Jacobs
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Naturally the cable is cutting in and out today.
So far I'm glad I don't even have BTN so I don't have to subject myself to what Purdue is doing...
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And another drop. This time in the red zone. This is getting hard to watch.
The coaching is there. The talent at OL, QB, and WR is not. Anthrop is the only reliable WR. He's a player, but Purdue was also his only D1 offer
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UL V FSU appeared to be a game of two teams about to check out on the season. UL really running at will today.
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UL V FSU appeared to be a game of two teams about to check out on the season. UL really running at will today.
Maybe belongs in the overrated/underrated thread, but is there a game out there that is less important in relation to what we expected it to be in the preseason?
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Purdue has run for 212 and thrown for 107 so far today.
So why not throw three straight downs for zero yards and then punt when you get the ball?
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FSU fans notoriously fickle (at least the ones I know) and it shows, lots of empties today. Jackson's running today has been superb.
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Purdue has run for 212 and thrown for 107 so far today.
So why not throw three straight downs for zero yards and then punt when you get the ball?
I feel for you, in what seems like a frustrating game, but personally it's refreshing to have angry (or happy) Purdue fans. Had plenty of them in the early days of this board, and I'm glad to see how quickly Brohm has wiped away the apathy.
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Seems like Maryland has figured out something on offense. They dug themselves probably too big a hole first though.
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Wildcat FG
Iowa 7
NU 10
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Maryland has a ton of weapons. IMO with a real QB, they'd be ranked right now.
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I feel for you, in what seems like a frustrating game, but personally it's refreshing to have angry (or happy) Purdue fans. Had plenty of them in the early days of this board, and I'm glad to see how quickly Brohm has wiped away the apathy.
True. We stuck around for basketball threads, but yeah, it's been pretty dark for Purdue fans for a while.
But still, it's Rutgers. They never played, but Hazell should have been able to compete with Rutgers!
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On the bright side, I just realized Purdue landed a commit from 4* DE George Karlaftis. Holy crap, this might be the biggest recruiting get I've seen since I started following the program. He had offers from Alabama, Louisville, Miami, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State and Penn State.
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4th and 1. You're running the ball with impunity.
So go empty set and throw an incomplete pass. SMFH...
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Purdue turns it over on downs.
It's starting to look like Rutgers might have this one.
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True. We stuck around for basketball threads, but yeah, it's been pretty dark for Purdue fans for a while.
But still, it's Rutgers. They never played, but Hazell should have been able to compete with Rutgers!
Told you don't sleep on Rutgers! They aren't completely terrible this year
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Maryland has a ton of weapons. IMO with a real QB, they'd be ranked right now.
Well, maybe one year.
More "weapons" are redshirting.
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On the bright side, I just realized Purdue landed a commit from 4* DE George Karlaftis. Holy crap, this might be the biggest recruiting get I've seen since I started following the program. He had offers from Alabama, Louisville, Miami, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State and Penn State.
Yeah, posted it in the 2019 recruiting thread. He's from West Lafayette, but that can work against you too. Shows how quickly Brohm has shifted the local mentality about the trajectory of Purdue.
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Texas and Okie State in a heck of a game.
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I'll never understand why teams (particularly mine) throw the ball when it's obvious u need to grind it out with runs to milk the clock
We throw on 1st down (incomplete / clock stops) and then turn it over on downs
b.s. playcalling
hopefully we can hang on here but I'm not sure we can ....
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4th and 1. You're running the ball with impunity.
So go empty set and throw an incomplete pass. SMFH...
Yep. They should have went to Herdman on 3rd. They should have been going to him all game for that matter.
It wasnt a good throw though
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Knights get another int.
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Another pick. Good Lord this is bad.
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FSU fighting back and with full momentum now against Louisville thanks, in part, to some helpful officiating. Anyone else disagree with that roughing the passer call against Louisville on 4th & 10? Which in turn kept alive the drive and placed FSU at 1st & goal on the 8? FSU driving inside Louisville 20, down 21-28.
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BC is giving Virginia an atomic wedgie.
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That roughing the passer would never be called from 1869-2013.
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don't forget that FSU TD was a recovered fumble in the end zone, nice bounce to the FSU wr. Murray's later TD catch was outstanding.
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Hawkeye FG
Iowa 10
NU 10
typical Cardiac Cat game
chewing my gum fiercely now
1:30 left in regulation ...
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Why are you playing for OT. BOOOOOOOOOO!
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We got 10-10 and 14-6 games late? Big Ten football
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Is this Northwestern's nod to former coach Ara?
Wussing out and playing for 10-10?
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A little OT action in Evanston?
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heading to OT
I guess that's better than losing (which would've happened if Iowa got a TD on its last drive)
go cats!(?)
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4th and 1. You're running the ball with impunity.
So go empty set and throw an incomplete pass. SMFH...
This reminds me all play calling is up and down.
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Okie State misses a 29 yard field goal. Still tied with Texas 10-10
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And another drop
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TD cats! PAT is good
Iowa 10
NU 17
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With this result, just how wide is the gap right now between the East and the West?
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wow
not sure how many ulcer-inducing games like this I can handle ....
FINAL SCORE (OT)
Iowa 10
NU 17
go cats!!!! :)
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wow
not sure how many ulcer-inducing games like this I can handle ....
FINAL SCORE (OT)
Iowa 10
NU 17
go cats!!!! :)
Congrats, cats
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Has Rutgers ever won back to back Big Ten games before?
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The Fighting Rutgers!
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Well that was one of the worst games I've ever seen players execute. Just terrible.
Purdue wins this by 4 scores if the QBs and WRs play at least halfway decent.
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Lamar Jackson and Noles true freshman James Blackman put on a flashy QB duel, but the rest of both rosters and coaching staffs deserved to lose this game. And FSU shouldn't be such a paltry 2-4, but they deserve it. Announcers talked constantly about how many potential 1st & 2nd round draft picks play on the Noles defense but as a unit they cough out such a half-hearted effort.
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Texas and Okie State headed to OT
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My Rutgers and NW picks both came through-as well as my upset pick of Rutgers!
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My Rutgers and NW picks both came through-as well as my upset pick of Rutgers!
Both your Rutgers and Rutgers picks? ;P
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Army goes to 6-2 with an OT win over Temple.
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Going to be tough to find a dumber throw than the one Sam Ehrlinger just made to lose the game
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Hackenbergesque int. Love it.
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Texas loses another heartbreaker. Had a 3rd and 4 from the 9 and needed only a FG to send it to second OT. Ehlinger was flushed from the pocket and I guess was trying to throw it OB. Instead he throws a floater directly to an Ok St defender standing by himself in the end zone.
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Both your Rutgers and Rutgers picks? ;P
Picked them in our "pick em" thread and as my upset in that thread. Lol.
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How do you get unsportsmanlike conduct on a touchback? Tom Allen was absolutely giving it to his guy, so I guess it was a good call, but they didn't show it. Weird.
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Texas loses another heartbreaker. Had a 3rd and 4 from the 9 and needed only a FG to send it to second OT. Ehlinger was flushed from the pocket and I guess was trying to throw it OB. Instead he throws a floater directly to an Ok St defender standing by himself in the end zone.
I thought that at first too. But on the end zone replay it looks like maybe he thought his WR was going to break up. Still a dumb throw
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Bad snap, but Lewerke got it, and could have easily thrown it away. Instead took a moronic 19 yard loss.
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You can tell Indiana was coached to exploit our fumbling issues, and while they already got one, which handed them 3 points, they are also giving us chances at yards after contact.
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UMass is blasting GA Southern, in a battle of winless teams.
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Possibly the first time I've seen multiple illegal formations in a quarter.
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UMass is blasting GA Southern, in a battle of winless teams.
That was an all time whiff of a hire at Georgia Southern
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MSU has about eight #2 WRs
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Pretty tight game down the stretch, in the first leg of the MI Mac Trophy.
Eastern and Western are all knotted up at 17 in the 4th.
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MSU has about eight #2 WRs
Related thought, considering we have no go to guy, but a bunch of guys who aren't decoys. Why don't we use them more as decoys to wear down CBs. Like call a route for whichever WR isn't matched up with CB #1, and whichever one is, just goes deep?
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Our OL is garbage
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Lovie Smith successfully ices the Gopher kicker, who shanks it off the upright.
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7-7 and 3-3 at half-time of the afternoon games. Big Ten football at it's finest!
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Hoosiers and MSU with the most uneventful 2 minute drill in history
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Sooners look to be in another dog fight, this time with K State. 14-7 Snyders in the first quarter.
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K State's QB is wearing Oklahoma out
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Illinois-Minnesota is adorable. Should Big Ten West games add minor league type promotions?
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Basically all MSUs offense needs to do is not turn it over and have like two decent drove a game and they'll win against everyone but OSU and PSU
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K State up 21-7 - their QB has already rushed for 107 yards and 2 touchdowns
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Sooners look to be in another dog fight, this time with K State. 14-7 Snyders in the first quarter.
Make that 21-7
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7-7 and 3-3 at half-time of the afternoon games. Big Ten football at it's finest!
Throw back Saturday, last week was Upset Saturday.
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WMU beat EMU in OT.
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This game is making me thirsty for a 7-7...
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Weirdness. Sooners go to wildcat formation on a third and fourth down and don't make it. Then get a pick. Kyler Murray comes in for Baker Mayfield. They get to the goal line and go wildcat again and don't make it. 21-10 K State, and not sure what the deal is with Mayfield. He doesn't appear hurt.
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Lewerke is regressing horribly. You can tell they've been telling him to stop running. They are Devin Gardnering this shit
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CMU edged Ball St 56-9
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After being missing for 2.5 seasons, ASU has finally found their defense.
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Pick six!
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This is the kind of Syracuse teams I used to see growing up.
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Sparty takes the lead
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Gophers win.
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Syracuse stops Miami. Getting ball back with 7:15 left down 20-16
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Another Cuse FG cuts it to 20-19 with 5 and change to play. Good game.
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Didn't think Indiana would have the balls to just let MSU score there, but they did. Kudos to them.
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Didn't think Indiana would have the balls to just let MSU score there, but they did. Kudos to them.
That strategy is not employed enough, imo.
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Indy plays hard, but they can never seal the deal.
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K St will run QB power and counter for 4 yards at a time all effing game. They are fine with it. They don't get greedy.
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SMU and The Bearcats are headed to OT
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The Bearcats beefed it.
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Nice night of football.
LSU v om
Au vs ark
USC v nd
Mich v psu
I’ll take LSU, ark, nd and psu
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KState ties it up
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OU right back up
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Barkley gets a big play
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ND goes up 7-0
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Hell of a catch for Gesicki
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Penn State is, uh, not having issues with Michigan's defense
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The Lions came to play
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KState ties with the Sooners again with a couple minutes left
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ND also up 14-0 on USC
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Sooners putting away the Wildcats
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Michigan with a huge interception
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Reports of Michigan'death were greatly exaggerated lol
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Big fourth down and an inch for Michigan
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TD Michigan and we've got a game, though they just missed the PAT
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K St will run QB power and counter for 4 yards at a time all effing game. They are fine with it. They don't get greedy.
Stay disciplined. All. Day. Long.
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McSorley has looked shaky since the start- with his throws.
Bodes well for Michigan.
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McSorley has looked shaky since the start- with his throws.
Bodes well for Michigan.
He's been taking a lot of shots.
Can't believe Hudson dropped that INT. He timed that perfectly and jumped that screen in the end zone. Would've been an AMAZING play for a TD had he finished it. Maybe #1 on Sportscenter.
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He's been taking a lot of shots.
Can't believe Hudson dropped that INT. He timed that perfectly and jumped that screen in the end zone. Would've been an AMAZING play for a TD had he finished it. Maybe #1 on Sportscenter.
LOL man been a while since I thought about plays being #1 on Sportscenter
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USC muffs a punt and ND scored again
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This is getting a little ridiculous now.
Khail Tate - 104 yards rushing, 4 carries.
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PSU rediscovering the long ball
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WHY do they keep leaving a safety in man coverage on Hamilton- Penn State's best WR? I'm- maybe you wanna change that Donnie B.
And why wasn't McSorley called for Intentional grounding? That ball didn't cross the LOS.
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Definitely should have been grounding. But should have been offsides and interference on Michigan there, so I guess it evens out.
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Moorhead is completely out-scheming Don Brown. Barkley dropped that but he was WIDE OPEN. 6'4, 240 pound 4.8 running Mike McCray in man coverage on Barkley? Yeah...um Barkley wins that one on one matchup every time.
Finally changed it up and put LaVert Hill on Hamilton...didn't get that one. Much better match up when you put your best cover guy on their best WR vs putting your safety.
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ND taking USC to the woodshed right now 21-0. WOW. Who saw that one coming? I sure as hell didn't. I thought it'd be a really close game.
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Grant Perry is a bum.
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UM-PSU suddenly very interesting. ND goes up four touchdowns on USC
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Great grab setting up the TD.OKorn looking sharp tonite
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Tie ball game if not for their all world Frosh kicker missing a PAT.
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Great grab setting up the TD.OKorn looking sharp tonite
That's O'Korn for you. Great throw for his team one play. Great throw for the other team next play. And that's Dylan Crawford for you. All the talent in the world- zero consistentcy as a WR.
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ND taking USC to the woodshed right now 21-0. WOW. Who saw that one coming? I sure as hell didn't. I thought it'd be a really close game.
I did, half of USC's roster is injured.
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Jeebis chill MDot you wrote them off they're leaving it on the field and have taken the crowd out
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I'm only watching the PSU-Michigan game periodically
Totally missed this - did UM miss an extra point?
Hopefully it doesn't bite them in the ass later
btw, I'm rooting for the Wolverines ... I'm sick of how cocky James Franklin has become .... go Blue!
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UM-PSU suddenly very interesting. ND goes up four touchdowns on USC
Did not see that one coming. 28-0. Wow.
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STOP putting safeties 1 on 1 with Hamilton.
That should be called back. Gary was HELD like a mother EFFER on that play.
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I'm only watching the PSU-Michigan game periodically
Totally missed this - did UM miss an extra point?
Hopefully it doesn't bite them in the ass later
btw, I'm rooting for the Wolverines ... I'm sick of how cocky James Franklin has become .... go Blue!
Yeah, Quinn Nordin missed a PAT.
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Yeah, Quinn Nordin missed a PAT.
thanks!
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Don Brown is getting completely out-schemed, just putting players in bad match-ups in man to man coverage.
Harbaugh is just going to shut it down here. He should at least try and get a FG with that kicker of his. He can hit a 50+ yarder.
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Yeah they call Michigan's OL for holding, but I saw Gary get held pretty much every play that last Penn State drive and they didn't call it once.
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O'Korn is just a dumb football player. He continually leaves clean pockets and runs himself into pressure.
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This is typically where Don Brown makes his living- half time adjustments. I'd HOPE to god that he'll stop putting Mike McCray in man to man on Barkley or safeties Mettelus/Kinnel in man to man on Hamilton. Or 5'11" Khaleke Hudson on 6'6" Mike Geisicki in man to man. Play more zone. One of the few times they mixed zone in they confused McSorley and got a pick.
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If they are going to insist on playing man to man they need to change things up.
They need to play a 3rd CB when Hamilton is in the slot- maybe Ambry Thomas or Brandon Watson - and keep Hill on Hamilton letting him follow him wherever he is.
They need to keep the 6'4, 240 pound McCray or 6'5, 250 pound Noah Furbush on the 6'6 Geisicki and let them get physical with him. Can't keep putting a 5'11 Khaleke Hudson on him- Hudson can't get physical with him AND he's giving up 7 inches to him.
And while I hate the idea of ever putting a LB or S in man to man with Barkley- if they insist on doing so they need to stop with Mike McCray and man him up with one of the safeties Metellus or Kinnel or one of the faster LB's like Bush or Khaleke Hudson.
This is just obvious stuff. I don't know why Brown hasn't adjusted sooner.
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This team sucks.
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If they are going to insist on playing man to man they need to change things up.
They need to play a 3rd CB when Hamilton is in the slot- maybe Ambry Thomas or Brandon Watson - and keep Hill on Hamilton letting him follow him wherever he is.
They need to keep the 6'4, 240 pound McCray or 6'5, 250 pound Noah Furbush on the 6'6 Geisicki and let them get physical with him. Can't keep putting a 5'11 Khaleke Hudson on him- Hudson can't get physical with him AND he's giving up 7 inches to him.
And while I hate the idea of ever putting a LB or S in man to man with Barkley- if they insist on doing so they need to stop with Mike McCray and man him up with one of the safeties Metellus or Kinnel or one of the faster LB's like Bush or Khaleke Hudson.
This is just obvious stuff. I don't know why Brown hasn't adjusted sooner.
If you aren't as good as PSU, and michigan isn't you make McSorley beat you. However McSorley looks really good right now. It might have been different if UM got that INT in the endzone.
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ND and PSU in laughers right now
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TCU's defense is on fire. The same KSU that gashed OU was held to 6 last week.
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Reports of Michigan'death were greatly exaggerated lol
Yeah, no.
Meanwhile ND is beating USC even worse than Penn St is beating Michigan. Wow
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Serious question - has UM beat a ranked team on the road since Carr?
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Charlotte beat UAB in OT, collecting their first win of the season
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ECU knocks off BYU.
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Auburn beat the Hawgs 52-20
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Serious question - has UM beat a ranked team on the road since Carr?
In a true road game, not since 2006, though to be fair, it's a sort of weird subset of games.
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Didn't get to see anything. How'd the Badgers look? Sounds like Taylor put the ball on the ground again, for a Maryland score?
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UW scored on a pick six right away. Taylor fumbled at the end of the 1st quarter inside the UW 10. I think Maryland turned that into the first half FG. Fumag. had a nice day, 8 catches. Horni was ok. M'land did move the ball fairly well in the 3rd quarter. UW probably didn't need that FG at the end, but they were at a 4th and 1 with under a minute. It did take the game 'over' and UW did cover. :)
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Thanks Pal. Taylor has put the ball on the ground in bad spots two weeks in a row, costing UW field goals.
That has to stop but it sounds like the D is still holding its own.
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Well that was one of the worst games I've ever seen players execute. Just terrible.
Purdue wins this by 4 scores if the QBs and WRs play at least halfway decent.
PU played a tough game a week ago. The "Wisconsin Effect" is real. You can look it up on the internet.
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So ASU has now allowed just 17 points the past two games. Where did this come from? Then Rich Rod turns the keys over to K. Tate and the kid (still 18) has been so much fun to watch. I'm sure many of us thought Graham and RR were toast a month ago.
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Indy plays hard, but they can never seal the deal.
Yeah, one has to ponder the mental aspect of this, much like Kentucky-v-Florida (but not Miss State). You can put together a competitive team athletically and still not have the mental confidence to win late, it often seems, or against certain opponents. They go in expecting bad things to happen somehow.
And they do. Texas is another team that has been "close late" and lost, as if they don't have the swagger they need.
Miami is a team that probably is not that good but has fallen into a series of late close WINS. That could be happenstance of course, but by now I think they expect to win a late close match.
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Yeah, one has to ponder the mental aspect of this, much like Kentucky-v-Florida (but not Miss State). You can put together a competitive team athletically and still not have the mental confidence to win late, it often seems, or against certain opponents. They go in expecting bad things to happen somehow.
And they do. Texas is another team that has been "close late" and lost, as if they don't have the swagger they need.
Miami is a team that probably is not that good but has fallen into a series of late close WINS. That could be happenstance of course, but by now I think they expect to win a late close match.
Couldn't it just be they're playing more talented/better teams? Plus close games remain very hard to control, mental thing or not.
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So ASU has now allowed just 17 points the past two games. Where did this come from? Then Rich Rod turns the keys over to K. Tate and the kid (still 18) has been so much fun to watch. I'm sure many of us thought Graham and RR were toast a month ago.
What's going on with Tate is REALLY similar to what happened with Pat White his freshman year at WVU. Not the starter, getting spot duty, but once he got in there full time they were a different team.
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Serious question - has UM beat a ranked team on the road since Carr?
The stat I saw was that they haven't beaten a team on the road that finished with fewer than 6 losses since 8-5 Notre Dame in 2010 and fewer than 5 losses since 9-4 Illinois in 2007
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Hadn't paid attention, but it looks like Demry Croft unlearned everything he seemingly figured out 4th quarter last week.
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If you aren't as good as PSU, and michigan isn't you make McSorley beat you. However McSorley looks really good right now. It might have been different if UM got that INT in the endzone.
Yeah, I'm just going to have to disagree with that. They never once made adjustments. Don Brown put his players in position to fail. Not succeed. That's not what a great DC like he has been for basically his entire career is suppose to do.
He continually put his safeties in man coverage on Penn State's best WR in Hamilton. McSorley was smart enough to exploit this. Hamilton absolutely abused Mettelus and Kinnel for big gain after big gain. I believe LaVert Hill- Michigan's best cover CB- was on Hamilton only 3 times in man coverage. Hamilton caught only 1 of those passes- a slant for 6-7 yards in which Hill was on his back and tackled him right after he caught it. Hey Don, maybe you should've had your best CB shadow their best WR if you're gonna play man to man 99% of the snaps. Just a thought.
And Brown kept putting 6'4, 240 pound Mike McCray in man coverage on Barkley. Complete lunacy. And he kept putting 5'11" Khaeke Hudson on 6'6" Mike Gelisicki.
Brown just made it too easy on McSorley throwing the ball. Played man basically every damn snap and McSorley found the man to man match-ups that favored his guys and exploited them damn near every time. Give lotta props to McSorley, have to knock Don Brown though. He should've mixed in more zone coverage to confuse McSorley a little bit more and he should've made adjustments to put his best cover guy on their best WR all game long and he should've switched up who would cover Geisicki in man and who would cover Barkley.
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Brown is a very good coordinator. Sometimes the opposing team just has more talent on the field. Secondly, you can’t solely blame a DC for matchups that are exploited. Sometimes is just a great play or scheme from the offense that forced a bad matchup and took advantage of it.
Penn State played a heck of a football game and executed incredibly well. I thought Michigan’s defense would be the only thing that kept them in the game, when in reality it was the defense that failed them. They struggled to get any pressure, which left a very inexperienced secondary open to a feasting by good offensive talent.
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Brown is a very good coordinator. Sometimes the opposing team just has more talent on the field. Secondly, you can’t solely blame a DC for matchups that are exploited. Sometimes is just a great play or scheme from the offense that forced a bad matchup and took advantage of it.
Penn State played a heck of a football game and executed incredibly well. I thought Michigan’s defense would be the only thing that kept them in the game, when in reality it was the defense that failed them. They struggled to get any pressure, which left a very inexperienced secondary open to a feasting by good offensive talent.
Brown is an excellent DC.
I can blame him a little bit when the 2nd half rolls around and you haven't made any adjustments.
They played too much man to man that put Mettelus and Kinnel in bad spots. Neither one of them can cover Hamilton one on one. That's advantage Penn State every time. Michigan didn't get enough chances to get pressure. McSorley knew where to go pre-snap just about every time and get rid of the ball quickly. How many times on those long throws did he get rid of the ball right before he got hit? Seemed like every time. I give McSorley a lot of credit. He played a whale of a game. Took big hits and kept slinging it and running it all over the field.
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So ASU has now allowed just 17 points the past two games. Where did this come from? Then Rich Rod turns the keys over to K. Tate and the kid (still 18) has been so much fun to watch. I'm sure many of us thought Graham and RR were toast a month ago.
Bye week adjustments finally got the defense to play to their potential.
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Yeah looks like Rich finally found his Denard 2.0 out there. Bigger stronger kid than Denard with a better arm. Denard was so fun to watch operate, but he was a little slight and that arm was pretty weakish.
Look at the scores of the games that Tate has started though. 45-42, 47-30, 45-44. Love Rich's offense to death. Problem still the same with him though. Guy can barely ever field a defense.
Rich as an OC would be maybe the best in the business. Not sure he's cut out for being a head coach where there are other sides that need attention like oh um...DEFENSE.
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Having said all this...I do think Penn State is the team best equipped from the B1G to take on BAMA.
You're not going to beat Alabama without that style of wide-open offense and mobile QB that Penn State plays with. You're just not. Sorry. You're not playing a pro-style offense and beating them. They will absolutely hammer you into submission to any pro-style team. They are designed to completely destroy those types of offenses.
Penn State's offense has the perfect ingredients to take on Alabama. A supremely talented RB that can be used in so many different ways to create mismatches. Barkley is a top 5 pick in the 2018 draft. Period. BAMA's LB's are great- but Barkley on ANY LB'er not named Jaylon Smith (before the freak leg injury of course) is a complete and utter mismatch. A mobile QB that can make plays with his feet- McSorley reminds me of Manziel Lite. Not saying he's as good as Manziel but he's a similar type of QB. Penn State also has a solid OL and a great WR/TE crew. Hamilton and Geisicki- those are both NFL draft picks at WR and TE. I don't know where they'll get drafted- but both of them certainly will.
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Couldn't it just be they're playing more talented/better teams? Plus close games remain very hard to control, mental thing or not.
I agree, but they hang in there against those teams up until the end many times. They hung in with OSU for a half.
They seem able to hang, but not close. You should win a third of those close games by random chance.
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I agree, but they hang in there against those teams up until the end many times. They hung in with OSU for a half.
They seem able to hang, but not close. You should win a third of those close games by random chance.
Maybe, but probably not. Three games is a minuscule sample size, not to mention, one of the three was a blowout with one half of improbably competitiveness. Iowa and NW show us year in and year out that close losses can go in waves. Maybe that's mental fortitude, or maybe it's just that close games get weird.
(From S&P+, Indiana is 44, with UM 27, MSU 20 and OSU No. 1. IU probably outperformed its indicators vs. Michigan, got crushed vs. OSU and seemed pretty even against MSU, though I don't have those numbers yet)
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Yeah looks like Rich finally found his Denard 2.0 out there. Bigger stronger kid than Denard with a better arm. Denard was so fun to watch operate, but he was a little slight and that arm was pretty weakish.
Look at the scores of the games that Tate has started though. 45-42, 47-30, 45-44. Love Rich's offense to death. Problem still the same with him though. Guy can barely ever field a defense.
Rich as an OC would be maybe the best in the business. Not sure he's cut out for being a head coach where there are other sides that need attention like oh um...DEFENSE.
This is always such a strange outlook. What you're saying is, he's not cut out to be a national championship head coach. And he's fortunately in the sport where winning a national championship is limited to the smallest number of teams.
Dude is in a sport where the failure rate of coaches is pretty high. He's a coach who's won 59.5 percent of his games, with 12 winning campaigns in 16 seasons. He's Don Nelson, which is to say a pretty good coach, but one who builds lopsided, high-variance teams.
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Week 8 Tournament projections
MARSHALL
2 PENN STATE
NOON - espn2
BOISE STATE
3 GEORGIA
1:30 - ESPN
9 NOTRE DAME
7 CLEMSON
3:00 - ABC
17 SOUTH FLORIDA
5 WISCONSIN
4:30 - espn2
10 OKLAHOMA
8 MIAMI
6:00 - ESPN
12 WASHINGTON
6 OHIO STATE
7:30 - ABC
TROY
1 ALABAMA
9:00 - espn2
TOLEDO
4 TCU
10:30 - ESPN
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A mobile QB that can make plays with his feet- McSorley reminds me of Manziel Lite. Not saying he's as good as Manziel but he's a similar type of QB. Penn State also has a solid OL and a great WR/TE crew. Hamilton and Geisicki- those are both NFL draft picks at WR and TE. I don't know where they'll get drafted- but both of them certainly will.
Penn State's OL has not looked so good in the previous few games. My guess is the the Michigan defense looked to put pressure on McSorley. He has struggled when under a lot of pressure. I don't know what adjustments Penn State made on the O-line, but it seems to have worked.