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Title: Hypothetical Bowl Lineups
Post by: ELA on December 03, 2018, 11:59:09 AM

That time of year to see what we could have had, and whether we like it better or worse.

First my ideal scenario if you made me college football czar.  20 bowls.  5 tiers of 5-1-2, with the top tier doubling as an unseeded playoff, moving forward to a 4 team seeded playoff on home fields.  Also actually using the standings, not randomly assigning teams trying to get teams moved around.  You do better, you move up.  As the days progress the bowls get better.  January 1 is awesome again.  Willing to tinker slightly with how the teams are selected from the conferences.  Like Iowa at 8-4 getting left out because they lost to every team they'd be in a tiebreaker with

DECEMBER 24
MUSIC CITY		Auburn (7-5) vs. Georgia Tech (7-5)
COPPER		South Carolina (7-5) vs. WISCONSIN (7-5)
	.
DECEMBER 25
POTATO		Baylor (6-6) vs. Northern Illinois (8-5)
HAWAII		#23 Missouri (8-4) vs. Arizona State (7-5)
	.
DECEMBER 26
INDEPENDENCE		Oregon (8-4) vs. MICHIGAN STATE (7-5)
LAS VEGAS		#25 Boise State (10-3) vs. Stanford (8-4)
	.
DECEMBER 27
TANGERINE		#18 Mississippi State (8-4) vs. NC State (9-3)
ALAMO		TCU (6-6) vs. UAB (10-3)
	.
DECEMBER 28
LIBERTY		#24 Iowa State (8-4) vs. Appalachian State (10-3)
HOLIDAY		#16 West Virginia (8-3) vs. #17 Utah (9-4)
	.
DECEMBER 29
GATOR		#10 Florida (9-3) vs. #12 PENN STATE (9-3)
HALL OF FAME		#20 Syracuse (9-3) vs. #22 NORTHWESTERN (8-5)
	.
DECEMBER 31
SUN		#13 Washington State (10-2) vs. Pittsburgh (7-6)
PEACH		#14 Kentucky (9-3) vs. #21 Fresno State (11-2)
JANUARY 1
COTTON		#15 Texas (9-4) vs. #19 Texas A&M (8-4)
CITRUS		#7 MICHIGAN (10-2) vs. #11 LSU (9-3)
ORANGE		#2 Clemson (13-0) vs. #5 Georgia (11-2)
ROSE		#6 OHIO STATE (12-1) vs. #9 Washington (10-3)
SUGAR		#1 Alabama (13-0) vs. #8 Central Florida (12-0)
FIESTA		#3 Notre Dame (12-0) vs. #4 Oklahoma (12-1)

Title: Re: Hypothetical Bowl Lineups
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 03, 2018, 12:29:06 PM

Very cute placement for UW. Iowa can have that one.

Title: Re: Hypothetical Bowl Lineups
Post by: ELA on December 03, 2018, 12:50:11 PM

Not a bad bowl, just has a bad name now.  Was the Copper Bowl, then the Cactus Bowl.

Title: Re: Hypothetical Bowl Lineups
Post by: ELA on December 04, 2018, 10:58:32 AM

Under the system in 2012 (5 game BCS)

35 games, 17 days

DECEMBER 15
NEW MEXICO		Nevada (7-5) vs. Toledo (7-5)
POTATO		Ohio (8-4) vs. San Diego State (7-5)
	.
DECEMBER 20
POINSETTIA		#25 Boise State (10-3) vs. BYU (6-6)
	.
DECEMBER 21
BEEF O'BRADY		FIU (8-4) vs. Tulane (6-6)
	.
DECEMBER 22
NEW ORLEANS		Appalachian State (10-2) vs. Middle Tennessee (8-5)
LAS VEGAS		#21 Fresno State (11-2) vs. Arizona State (7-5)
	.
DECEMBER 24
HAWAII		Marshall (8-4) vs. Hawaii (8-5)
	.
DECEMBER 26
PIZZA		MINNESOTA (6-6) vs. Buffalo (10-3)
	.
DECEMBER 27
MILITARY		Army (9-2) vs. Louisiana Tech (7-5)
BELK		Duke (7-5) vs. Memphis (8-5)
HOLIDAY		#17 Utah (9-4) vs. #24 Iowa State (8-4)
	.
DECEMBER 28
INDEPENDENCE		South Carolina (7-5) vs. Virginia (7-5)
RUSSELL ATHLETIC		Miami (7-5) vs. Cincinnati (10-2)
TEXAS		Georgia Tech (7-5) vs. PURDUE (6-6)
	.
DECEMBER 29
ARMED FORCES		Utah State (10-2) vs. North Texas (9-3)
PINSTRIPE		Boston College (7-5) vs. Temple (8-4)
FIGHT HUNGER		California (7-5) vs. South Florida (7-5)
ALAMO		#16 West Virginia (8-3) vs. Oregon (8-4)
BUFFALO WILD WINGS		WISCONSIN (7-5) vs. Baylor (6-6)
	.
DECEMBER 31
MUSIC CITY		#23 Missouri (8-4) vs. NC State (9-3)
SUN		Stanford (8-4) vs. Pittsburgh (7-6)
LIBERTY		Vanderbilt (6-6) vs. UAB (10-3)
CHICK-FIL-A		#19 Texas A&M (8-4) vs. #20 Syracuse (9-3)
	.
JANUARY 1
GATOR		#18 Mississippi State (8-4) vs. IOWA (8-4)
HEART OF DALLAS		MICHIGAN STATE (7-5) vs. TCU (6-6)
OUTBACK		#14 Kentucky (9-3) vs. #22 NORTHWESTERN (8-5)
CAPITAL ONE		#10 Florida (9-3) vs. #12 PENN STATE (9-3)
ROSE		#6 OHIO STATE (12-1) vs. #9 Washington (10-3)
ORANGE		#3 Notre Dame (12-0) vs. #13 Washington State (10-2)
	.
JANUARY 2
SUGAR		#5 Georgia (11-2) vs. #8 Central Florida (12-0)
	.
JANUARY 3
FIESTA		#4 Oklahoma (12-1) vs. #7 MICHIGAN (10-2)
	.
JANUARY 4
COTTON		#11 LSU (9-3) vs. #15 Texas (9-4)
	.
JANUARY 5
COMPASS		Auburn (7-5) vs. Houston (8-4)
	.
JANUARY 6
GODADDY.COM		Troy (9-3) vs. Northern Illinois (8-5)
	.
JANUARY 7
BCS CHAMPIONSHIP		#1 Alabama (13-0) vs. #2 Clemson (13-0)

Title: Re: Hypothetical Bowl Lineups
Post by: ELA on December 04, 2018, 10:59:09 AM

Quote from: ELA on December 03, 2018, 12:50:11 PM

Not a bad bowl, just has a bad name now.  Was the Copper Bowl, then the Cactus Bowl.

But actually, I'm going to go ahead and disallow the bowls to be named after the sponsor.

Title: Re: Hypothetical Bowl Lineups
Post by: ELA on December 04, 2018, 05:30:16 PM

Under the system in 2001 (4 game BCS)
25 games, 11 days

DECEMBER 18
NEW ORLEANS		Appalachian State (10-2) vs. Nevada (7-5)
	.
DECEMBER 19
GMAC		Buffalo (10-3) vs. Middle Tennessee (8-5)
	.
DECEMBER 20
TANGERINE		Miami (7-5) vs. South Florida (7-5)
	.
DECEMBER 25
LAS VEGAS		#25 Boise State (10-3) vs. Stanford (8-4)
	.
DECEMBER 27
INDEPENDENCE		#23 Missouri (8-4) vs. WISCONSIN (7-5)
SEATTLE		Oregon (8-4) vs. Pittsburgh (7-6)
	.
DECEMBER 28
GALLERYFURNITURE.COM		South Carolina (7-5) vs. North Texas (9-3)
MUSIC CITY		#18 Mississippi State (8-4) vs. Memphis (8-5)
HOLIDAY		#13 Washington State (10-2) vs. #16 West Virginia (8-3)
	.
DECEMBER 29
MOTOR CITY		Marshall (8-4) vs. Northern Illinois (8-5)
ALAMO		#22 NORTHWESTERN (8-5) vs. #24 Iowa State (8-4)
INSIGHT		Auburn (7-5) vs. Houston (8-4)
	.
DECEMBER 31
HUMANITARIAN		Virginia (7-5) vs. Utah State (10-3)
SUN		#17 Utah (9-4) vs. IOWA (8-4)
LIBERTY		#21 Fresno State (11-2) vs. UAB (10-3)
SILICON VALLEY		California (7-5) vs. San Diego State (7-5)
PEACH		#19 Texas A&M (8-4) vs. NC State (9-3)
	.
JANUARY 1
OUTBACK		#12 PENN STATE (9-3) vs. #14 Kentucky (9-3)
COTTON		#11 LSU (9-3) vs. #15 Texas (9-4)
GATOR		#20 Syracuse (9-3) vs. Cincinnati (10-2)
CITRUS		#7 MICHIGAN (10-2) vs. #10 Florida (9-3)
FIESTA		#4 Oklahoma (12-1) vs. #6 OHIO STATE (12-1)
SUGAR		#5 Georgia (11-2) vs. #9 Washington (10-3)
	.
JANUARY 2
ORANGE		#3 Notre Dame (12-0) vs. #8 Central Florida (12-0)
	.
JANUARY 3
ROSE		#1 Alabama (13-0) vs. #2 Clemson (13-0)

Title: Re: Hypothetical Bowl Lineups
Post by: ELA on December 07, 2018, 11:50:09 AM

Under the system in 1996 (Bowl Alliance)

18 games, 8 days

DECEMBER 18
LAS VEGAS		Appalachian State (10-2) vs. Northern Illinois (8-5)
	.
DECEMBER 25
ALOHA		Oregon (8-4) vs. WISCONSIN (7-5)
	.
DECEMBER 27
CARQUEST		Pittsburgh (7-6) vs. Memphis (8-5)
LIBERTY		#18 Mississippi State (8-4) vs. UAB (10-3)
COPPER		#25 Boise State (10-3) vs. Stanford (8-4)
	.
DECEMBER 28
ALAMO		#22 NORTHWESTERN (8-5) vs. #24 Iowa State (8-4)
	.
DECEMBER 29
HOLIDAY		#16 West Virginia (8-3) vs. #21 Fresno State (11-2)
	.
DECEMBER 31
INDEPENDENCE		#19 Texas A&M (8-4) vs. Army (9-2)
SUN		#17 Utah (9-4) vs. IOWA (8-4)
ORANGE		#5 Georgia (11-2) vs. #8 Central Florida (12-0)
	.
JANUARY 1
OUTBACK		#11 LSU (9-3) vs. #12 PENN STATE (9-3)
GATOR		#20 Syracuse (9-3) vs. Cincinnati (10-2)
PEACH		#14 Kentucky (9-3) vs. NC State (9-3)
COTTON		#13 Washington State (10-2) vs. #15 Texas (9-4)
CITRUS		#7 MICHIGAN (9-3) vs. #10 Florida (9-3)
ROSE		#6 OHIO STATE (12-1) vs. #9 Washington (10-3)
FIESTA		#3 Notre Dame (12-0) vs. #4 Oklahoma (12-1)
	.
JANUARY 2
SUGAR		#1 Alabama (13-0) vs. #2 Clemson (13-0)

Title: Re: Hypothetical Bowl Lineups
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 07, 2018, 12:07:52 PM

I'd go to Hawaii for that, and since we do Christmas on the 24th, it would be no problem. Sign me up.

Title: Re: Hypothetical Bowl Lineups
Post by: ELA on December 07, 2018, 12:09:35 PM

I used to love that game on Christmas Day.  Felt like a bottom feed bowl, back when you actually had to be ok to go to a bowl, but it would be a solid team now.  Was generally a middle of the pack Pac 10 team vs. a middle of the pack major conference opponent, both being like 7-4.  I think MSU went once in the 90s and got blasted by Washington, like 56-31.

Title: Re: Hypothetical Bowl Lineups
Post by: ELA on December 07, 2018, 02:58:50 PM

Under the system in 1992 (Bowl Coalition)

18 games, 8 days

DECEMBER 18
LAS VEGAS		Appalachian State (10-2) vs. Northern Illinois (8-5)
	.
DECEMBER 25
ALOHA		#24 Iowa State (8-4) vs. NC State (9-3)
	.
DECEMBER 27
FREEDOM		#17 Utah (9-4) vs. #25 Boise State (10-3)
	.
DECEMBER 28
COPPER		IOWA (8-4) vs. Utah State (10-2)
	.
DECEMBER 29
HOLIDAY		#12 PENN STATE (9-3) vs. #21 Fresno State (11-2)
	.
DECEMBER 31
GATOR		#8 Central Florida (12-0) vs. #10 Florida (9-3)
LIBERTY		#18 Mississippi State (8-4) vs. Army (9-2)
INDEPENDENCE		#22 NORTHWESTERN (8-5) vs. Stanford (8-4)
JOHN HANCOCK		#16 West Virginia (8-3) vs. Cincinnati (10-2)
	.
JANUARY 1
HALL OF FAME		#14 Kentucky (9-3) vs. Memphis (8-5)
BLOCKBUSTER		#23 Missouri (8-4) vs. Oregon (8-4)
CITRUS		#5 Georgia (11-2) vs. #7 MICHIGAN (10-2)
COTTON		#15 Texas (9-4) vs. #20 Syracuse (9-3)
ROSE		#6 OHIO STATE (12-1) vs. #9 Washington (10-3)
FIESTA		#11 LSU (9-3) vs. #13 Washington State (10-2)
ORANGE		#3 Notre Dame (12-0) vs. #4 Oklahoma (12-1)
SUGAR		#1 Alabama (13-0) vs. #2 Clemson (13-0)
	.
JANUARY 2
PEACH		#19 Texas A&M (8-4) vs. Pittsburgh (7-6)

Title: Re: Hypothetical Bowl Lineups
Post by: ELA on December 10, 2018, 03:54:38 PM

Under the system in 1990 (pre-Coalition)

19 games, 8 days

DECEMBER 8
CALIFORNIA		Appalachian State (10-2) vs. Northern Illinois (8-5)
	.
DECEMBER 15
INDEPENDENCE		South Carolina (7-5) vs. Pittsburgh (7-6)
	.
DECEMBER 25
ALOHA		Stanford (8-4) vs. Cincinnati (10-2)
	.
DECEMBER 27
LIBERTY		Auburn (7-5) vs. Army (10-2)
	.
DECEMBER 28
ALL-AMERICAN		NC State (9-3) vs. UAB (10-3)
BLOCKBUSTER		#23 Missouri (8-4) vs. #24 Iowa State (8-4)
	.
DECEMBER 29
PEACH		#5 Georgia (11-2) vs. #20 Syracuse (9-3)
HOLIDAY		#21 Fresno State (11-2) vs. #22 NORTHWESTERN (8-5)
FREEDOM		#25 Boise State (10-3) vs. Oregon (8-4)
	.
DECEMBER 31
JOHN HANCOCK		#17 Utah (9-4) vs. #19 Texas A&M (8-4)
COPPER		IOWA (8-4) vs. Utah State (10-2)
	.
JANUARY 1
HALL OF FAME		#7 MICHIGAN (10-2) vs. #11 LSU (9-3)
COTTON		#10 Florida (9-3) vs. #15 Texas (9-4)
GATOR		#16 West Virginia (8-3) vs. #18 Mississippi State (8-4)
CITRUS		#2 Clemson (13-0) vs. #12 PENN STATE (9-3)
ROSE		#6 OHIO STATE (12-1) vs. #9 Washington (10-3)
FIESTA		#13 Washington State (10-2) vs. #14 Kentucky (9-3)
SUGAR		#1 Alabama (13-0) vs. #3 Notre Dame (12-0)
ORANGE		#4 Oklahoma (12-1) vs. #8 Central Florida (13-0)

Title: Re: Hypothetical Bowl Lineups
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on December 10, 2018, 06:20:49 PM

No point spreads? 

Title: Re: Hypothetical Bowl Lineups
Post by: ELA on December 12, 2018, 08:11:05 AM

Under the system in 1973 (Big 10/Pac 10 Rose Bowl only rule)

11 games, 7 days

DECEMBER 17
LIBERTY		#23 Missouri (8-4) vs. NC State (9-3)
	.
DECEMBER 21
FIESTA		#21 Fresno State (11-2) vs. #24 Iowa State (8-4)
	.
DECEMBER 22
TANGERINE		#18 Mississippi State (8-4) vs. Northern Illinois (8-5)
	.
DECEMBER 28
PEACH		#14 Kentucky (9-3) vs. Pittsburgh (7-6)
	.
DECEMBER 29
GATOR		#10 Florida (9-3) vs. #16 West Virginia (8-3)
SUN		#11 LSU (9-3) vs. #20 Syracuse (9-3)
BLUEBONNET		#8 Central Florida (13-0) vs. #19 Texas A&M (8-4)
	.
DECEMBER 31
SUGAR		#1 Alabama (13-0) vs. #2 Clemson (13-0)
	.
JANUARY 1
COTTON		#5 Georgia (11-2) vs. #15 Texas (9-4)
ROSE		#6 OHIO STATE (12-1) vs. #9 Washington (10-3)
ORANGE		#3 Notre Dame (12-0) vs. #4 Oklahoma (13-0)

Pre-1971 sub out Ohio State under the no repeat rule (they would have gone last year) and depending on how they treated who was the runner up, either Michigan or Northwestern would go to the Rose Bowl.

Title: Re: Hypothetical Bowl Lineups
Post by: ELA on December 12, 2018, 04:34:00 PM

Last one, if the NCAA adopted a 64 team Division 1 tournament

		SOUTH			EAST
1		Alabama			Clemson		1
16		Duquesne			Alcorn State		16
	.					.
8		Appalachian State			Cincinnati		8
9		Utah State			South Carolina		9
	.					.
5		Syracuse			Mississippi State		5
12		Buffalo			Duke		12
	.					.
4		Washington State			Texas		4
13		Oklahoma State			UAB		13
	.					.
3		Florida			PENN STATE		3
14		Colgate			Kennesaw State		14
	.					.
6		NORTHWESTERN			Fresno State		6
11		Temple			Vanderbilt		11
	.					.
7		IOWA			North Dakota St.		7
10		Miami			PURDUE		10
	.					.
2		Central Florida			Georgia		2
15		Maine			Nicholls		15
			.	.
		WEST			MIDWEST
1		Oklahoma			Notre Dame		1
16		North Carolina A&T			San Diego		16
	.					.
8		NC State			Auburn		8
9		MICHIGAN STATE			Army		9
	.					.
5		Utah			Texas A&M		5
12		Georgia Tech			WISCONSIN		12
	.					.
4		Kentucky			West Virginia		4
13		Princeton			Virginia		13
	.					.
3		Washington			LSU		3
14		Northern Illinois			Weber State		14
	.					.
6		Missouri			Iowa State		6
11		Boston College			Arizona State		11
	.					.
7		Boise State			Stanford		7
10		Oregon			Pittsburgh		10
	.					.
2		MICHIGAN			OHIO STATE		2
15		Jacksonville State			Wofford		15

Title: Re: Hypothetical Bowl Lineups
Post by: ELA on December 12, 2018, 04:34:35 PM

Hmm, and I see the right justify in a table doesn't hold, I think that's still readable though