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Title: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 26, 2018, 04:27:19 PM
Link to last week's rankings (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?topic=6140.0).  

Votes through @LetsGoPeay (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=7) , 16 voters:
Team/Poster AVG Rank StdDev BestWorstRange LW AVG LW RankChg AvgChg Rank
M          1.00 1               -   110          1.00 1               -   0
tOSU          2.94 2          1.57 275          3.12 2          0.18 0
PSU          3.00 3          0.97 264          5.00 5          2.00 2
Iowa          4.56 4          1.26 374          3.12 3        (1.44)-1
MSU          5.31 5          1.30 385          6.35 7          1.04 2
NU          5.50 6          1.79 286          8.47 8          2.97 2
UW          6.94 7          1.39 484          3.82 4        (3.11)-3
PU          7.13 8          1.36 495          5.94 6        (1.18)-2
MD          8.75 9          1.13 6104          9.00 9          0.25 0
UNL        10.44 10          0.81 9123        10.59 11          0.15 1
MN        11.19 11          0.66 10122        12.06 12          0.87 1
IU        11.56 12          1.21 9134          9.94 10        (1.62)-2
ILL        12.69 13          0.70 11132        12.65 13        (0.04)0
RU        14.00 14               -   14140        13.94 14        (0.06)0
Drop the high and low:
Team/Poster AVG Rank StdDev BestWorstRange LW AVG LW RankChg AvgChg Rank
M          1.00 1               -   110          1.00 1               -   0
tOSU          2.71 2          1.20 253          3.00 2          0.29 0
PSU          2.86 3          0.53 242          4.93 5          2.08 2
Iowa          4.50 4          1.09 374          3.07 3        (1.43)-1
MSU          5.29 5          0.99 374          6.40 7          1.11 2
NU          5.57 6          1.50 385          8.47 8          2.90 2
UW          7.07 7          1.21 484          3.73 4        (3.34)-3
PU          7.21 8          1.05 594          6.00 6        (1.21)-2
MD          8.86 9          0.86 6104          8.93 9          0.08 0
UNL        10.43 10          0.65 10122        10.60 11          0.17 1
MN        11.21 11          0.58 10122        12.00 12          0.79 1
IU        11.64 12          1.01 10133        10.07 10        (1.58)-2
ILL        12.79 13          0.58 11132        12.73 13        (0.05)0
RU        14.00 14               -   14140        14.00 14               -   0
Various graphical representations of the votes:
<br />(https://thumb.ibb.co/bXwsLq/B1-GPR-2018-wk9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bXwsLq)<br /><br />(https://thumb.ibb.co/j6d6fq/B1-GPR-2018-wk9-dist.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j6d6fq)<br /><br />(https://thumb.ibb.co/ejsXLq/B1-GPR-2018-wk9-pre-cur.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ejsXLq)<br />
Schedule/performance chart:
Rank.1234567891011121314.Rank
.TeamMtOSUPSUIowaMSUNUUWPUMDUNLMNIUILLRUTeam.
1Mn/a11/24, H11/3, AmissL by 14, HL by 3, HL by 25, AmissL by 21, AL by 46, Amiss11/17, Amiss11/10, HM1
2tOSU11/24, An/aL by 1, Hmiss11/10, HmissmissW by 29, H11/17, H11/3, AL by 16, AL by 23, AmissL by 49, AtOSU2
3PSU11/3, HW by 1, An/aL by 6, AW by 4, Amiss11/10, Amiss11/24, AmissmissL by 5, HL by 39, H11/17, HPSU3
4IowamissmissW by 6, Hn/amiss11/10, AW by 11, A11/3, HL by 23, A11/23, AL by 17, HL by 26, H11/17, HmissIowa4
5MSUW by 14, A11/10, AL by 4, Hmissn/aW by 10, AmissL by 10, A11/3, H11/17, HmissL by 14, Hmiss11/24, AMSU5
6NUW by 3, Amissmiss11/10, HL by 10, Hn/aL by 14, AL by 4, HmissL in OT, A11/17, Amiss11/24, AL by 3, HNU6
7UWW by 25, Hmiss11/10, HL by 11, HmissW by 14, Hn/a11/17, HmissL by 17, A11/24, AmissL by 29, A11/3, AUW7
8PUmissL by 29, Amiss11/3, AW by 10, HW by 4, A11/17, An/amissL by 14, H11/10, H11/24, HL by 39, HmissPU8
9MDW by 21, H11/17, A11/24, HW by 23, H11/3, Amissmissmissn/amissL by 29, A11/10, HL by 30, AL by 27, AMD9
10UNLW by 46, H11/3, Hmiss11/23, H11/17, AW in OT, HW by 17, HW by 14, Amissn/aL by 25, Amiss11/10, AmissUNL10
11MNmissW by 16, HmissW by 17, Amiss11/17, A11/24, H11/10, AW by 29, HW by 25, Hn/aL by 7, A11/3, HmissMN11
12IU11/17, HW by 23, HW by 5, AW by 26, AW by 14, Amissmiss11/24, A11/10, AmissW by 7, Hn/amissL by 7, HIU12
13ILLmissmissW by 39, A11/17,Amiss11/24, HW by 29, HW by 39, AW by 30, H11/10, H11/3, Amissn/aL by 21, HILL13
14RU11/10, AW by 49, H11/17, Amiss11/24, HW by 3, A11/3, HmissW by 27, HmissmissW by 7, AW by 21, An/aRU14
.TeamMtOSUPSUIowaMSUNUUWPUMDUNLMNIUILLRUTeam.
Rank.1234567891011121314.Rank
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 27, 2018, 11:16:52 PM
(Last,...,Preseason)

1. Michigan (1,2,3,3,3,4,4,4,3)
2. OSU (2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1)

----

3. PSU (4,3,2,2,2,2,3,7,6)
4. Iowa (5,6,5,5,5,3,5,5,5)
5. Northwestern (8,7,8,10,10,9,8,8,8) -- biggest mover, but it was a long time coming; the only tier jumpers
6. UW (3,4,4,4,4,5,2,2,4)
7. MSU (7,5,6,6,6,6,6,3,2)
8. Purdue (6,8,9,9,9,11,9,9,7) 

----

9. Maryland (9,9,10,8,8,8,7,6,9)
10. Nebraska (10,12,12,12,11,10,10,10,10)
11. Minnesota (12,11,11,11,12,12,12,12,12)
12. Indiana (11,10,7,7,7,7,11,11,11)
13. Illinois (13,13,13,13,13,13,14,14,14)
14. Rutger (14,14,14,14,14,14,13,13,13)
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: LittlePig on October 28, 2018, 06:27:24 AM
Time to hit the reset button.  PSU > Iowa,  MSU > Purdue, East > West

But then again,  NW > MSU,  NW > Wisc and NW > Purdue

Hmmm....

1.  Mich
2.  NW
3.  MSU
4.  Purdue
5.  OSU
6.  PSU
7. Iowa
8.  Wisc
9.  MD
10. Neb
11.  Minn
12.  Indy
13.  ILL
14.  Rut
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: Temp430 on October 28, 2018, 07:06:39 AM


1. Michigan 
2. OSU 
3. PSU 
4. Iowa 
5. Northwestern
6. Wisconsin
7. Purdue 
8. MSU 
9. Maryland
10. Indiana
11. Nebraska
12. Minnesota
13. Illinois
14. Rutger
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: Cincydawg on October 28, 2018, 08:54:20 AM
1.  Michigan
2.  Ohio State

3.  Penn State
4.  NW
5.  Iowa
6.  MSU
7.  Purdue
8.  Wisconsin

9. Maryland
10.  Indiana
11. Nebraska
12.  Minn
13.  Illinois

14.  Rutger



Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 28, 2018, 09:37:10 AM
1. Michigan
2. Ohio State
3. Penn State
4. Iowa
5. Michigan State
6. Purdue
7. Northwestern
8. Wisconsin
9. Maryland
10. Nebraska
11. Illinois
12. Minnesota
13. Indiana
14. Rutger
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: FearlessF on October 28, 2018, 09:45:06 AM
1. Michigan
2. Ohio State
3. Penn State
4. Northwestern
5. Iowa
6. Michigan State
7. Purdue
8. Wisconsin
9. Maryland
10. Nebraska
11. Illinois
12. Minnesota
13. Indiana
14. Rutgers
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: JerseyTerrapin on October 28, 2018, 11:19:57 AM
1. Michigan

2. Ohio State

3. Penn State

4. Iowa

5. Michigan State: have warts, but tough and know how to win

6: Purdue: have done enough to negate the bad start

7. Northwestern: too many bad games to be any higher

8. Wisconsin: probably should be lower

9. Indiana: Unlike Maryland, they've shown they can compete with the big boys

10. Maryland

11. Minnesota

12. Nebraska: if any non-helmet had this season's resume...

13. Illinois

14. Rutgers


ETA: shrunk the font.
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: TyphonInc on October 28, 2018, 03:04:26 PM
Good

1. Michigan (--) - Bye Week

2. Penn State (+3) - Won, while the teams they moved past didn't

3. Iowa (--) - Defense and Special Teams made for an exciting game

4. Wisconsin (-2) - Little Evanston Kryptonite stopped the Badgers


Not Good


5. Michigan State (+1) - Handled the Giant slayers Purdue

6. Maryland (+1) - Destroyed Illinois

7. Ohio State (-2) - How does this 1 dimensional team, without a Defense, win another game?

8. Northwestern (+1) - In the driver's seat to win the West

9. Purdue (-1) - Back to reality, Cancer still Sucks.


Bad


11. Nebraska (+1) - Winning Streak!

12. Minnesota (+1) - clipped the Hoosiers

10. Indiana (-2) - looked tough in loss

13. Illinois (--) - Almost Rutgers Bad

14. Rutgers (--) - They didn't play, no one noticed.
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 28, 2018, 03:29:43 PM

1 Wolverines
2 Buckeyes
3 Nittany Lions
4 Wildcats
5 Hawkeyes
6 Spartans
7 Badgers 
8 Boilermakers
9 Terrapins 
10 Golden Gophers
11 Hoosiers
12 Cornhuskers 
13 Fighting Illini
14 Scarlet Knights 
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 28, 2018, 04:38:14 PM
Quote from: TyphonInc on October 28, 2018, 03:04:26 PM
Good

1. Michigan (--) - Bye Week

2. Penn State (+3) - Won, while the teams they moved past didn't

3. Iowa (--) - Defense and Special Teams made for an exciting game

4. Wisconsin (-2) - Little Evanston Kryptonite stopped the Badgers


Not Good


5. Michigan State (+1) - Handled the Giant slayers Purdue

6. Maryland (+1) - Destroyed Illinois

7. Ohio State (-3) - How does this 1 dimensional team, without a Defense, win another game?

8. Northwestern (+1) - In the driver's seat to win the West

9. Purdue (-1) - Back to reality, Cancer still Sucks.


Bad


11. Nebraska (+1) - Winning Streak!

12. Minnesota (+1) - clipped the Hoosiers

10. Indiana (-2) - looked tough in loss

13. Illinois (--) - Almost Rutgers Bad

14. Rutgers (--) - They didn't play, no one noticed.
HA! You decided that dropping them to #11 or so last week was too much all at once ... so you'll get there in increments of three ladder rungs at a time?
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: Benthere2 on October 28, 2018, 09:54:59 PM
1. Michigan
2. Penn State
3. Northwestern
4. Iowa
5. Ohio State
6. Michigan State
7. Purdue
8. Wisconsin
9. Maryland
10. Nebraska
11. Minnesota
12. Indiana
13. Illinois
14. Rutgers
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: ohio1317 on October 28, 2018, 11:06:28 PM
Well there I go moving up Iowa and Wisconsin and they both lose.
 
 1. (1) Michigan: Bye week. Unquestionably here for now.
 2. (4) Ohio State: Bye week. Nebraska has been improving and this might be a bigger test of progress over the bye week than many think.
 3. (5) Michigan State: Beat a Purdue team that Ohio State failed come close against. Actually was pretty tempted to put them #2, but earlier loses ding just enough for the moment.
 4. (7) Penn State: Better win that it will probably be seen as. Probably out of east race, but still a bit of hope.
 5. (8) Northwestern: This team has been all over the place, but in true Northwestern fashion is challenging in the Big Ten after a disappointing first month.
 6. (2) Wisconsin: Iowa win still counts for a lot. This is a team that has definitely disappointed this year though.
 7. (3) Iowa: No shame is losing to Penn State.
 8. (6) Purdue: Has played very well much of season, but is still not even guarenteed to make a bowl.
 9. (9) Nebraska: Coming along. If had pulled out one or two earlier in year would actually think bowl eligible would be likely now.
 10. (10) Maryland: Beat Illinois convincingly.
 11. (12) Minnesota: A much needed win.
 12. (11) Indiana: Now bowl eligibility looking tougher.
 13. (13) Illinois: Seems likely to stay around here.
 14. (14) Rutgers: Winning a conference game now highly unlikely.
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 29, 2018, 09:49:26 AM
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 29, 2018, 09:50:16 AM
Groupings that appear to be emerging in our votes:
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: MaximumSam on October 29, 2018, 10:00:59 AM
Holy hell
1. Michigan: Good ole rock
2. PSU: I guess, maybe?  OSU, MSU losses required some flukes
3. Iowa: Good effort on the road
4. OSU: On upset alert again this week
5. MSU: The legend of Rocky begins
6. NW: First place!
7. Wisconsin: Hard team to place
8. Purdue: Still a quality team
9. Maryland: Good Maryland this week
10. Nebraska: Arrow pointing up
11. Minnesota: Might get bowl eligible
12. Indiana: Tough loss
13. Illinois: Nope
14. Rutgers: Nope
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: ELA on October 29, 2018, 10:53:29 AM
Last week in parenthesis...

Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: SFBadger96 on October 29, 2018, 11:44:53 AM
1) Michigan. 
2) Ohio State: shaping up to be a pretty big game after Thanksgiving.
3) Penn State: wins matter.
4) Iowa: still likely the winner in the west: November is the time to prove it.
5) Michigan State: dangerous, but not top-level good.
6) Maryland: winning the ones they should.
7) Northwestern: because wins matter, I guess? Good win against Wisconsin, but this is still the weakest 1-loss Big Ten team in a while (this late in the season).
8) Wisconsin: just too dinged up. Probably overdue for this kind of season.
9) Purdue: dangerous (just ask Ohio State), and probably still improving.
10) Nebraska: finding their groove?
11) Minnesota: tallest midget.
12) Indiana: early promise evaporating into a reminder that this is Indiana.
13) Illinois.
14) Rutgers.
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: LetsGoPeay on October 29, 2018, 02:47:41 PM
1. Michigan
2. Ohio State
3. Penn State
4. Wisconsin
5. Iowa
6. Michigan State
7. Northwestern
8. Purdue
9. Maryland
10. Minnesota
11. Nebraska
12. Illinois
13. Indiana
14. Rutgers
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: TyphonInc on October 29, 2018, 03:58:03 PM
Quote from: Anonymous Coward on October 28, 2018, 04:38:14 PM
HA! You decided that dropping them to #11 or so last week was too much all at once ... so you'll get there in increments of three ladder rungs at a time?
It was 13. The teams I moved up all won. And until OSU wins again or the teams above them lose then yes they will continue to drop.
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 29, 2018, 04:07:57 PM
Just because OSU is not very good, that doesn't mean that all of these other teams are better. 

The whole conference is kind of a mess. 

Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 29, 2018, 04:45:19 PM
Results posted, votes through @LetsGoPeay (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=7) (16 voters).  

There was a massive amount of movement this week:

Non-contiguous votes:

We all agree that Michigan is #1 and that Rutgers is #14.  Other than that, at least half of us agree:

There is no consensus at all for #4 - #7.  

#12 Indiana is off this week and #6 Northwestern has an OOC game against Notre Dame.  The other 12 B1G teams have B1G games this weekend:

PSU/M seems like a pretty obvious choice for "Game of the Week", but Iowa/Purdue actually has more immediate impact on the race for Indy.  Minnesota desperately needs a win this weekend to keep their bowl hopes alive but they haven't won on the road all year so their game at Illinois could be interesting.  

PSU/M:
Penn State would be mathematically eliminated with a loss.  A Penn State win also helps MSU's chances.  

UNL/tOSU:
Interesting game.  Nebraska has been trending up and Ohio State looked listless last time out but if the Buckeyes come out the way they did after the Iowa loss last year, this could be bad news for Scott Frost's program.  

Iowa/Purdue:
The loser is all but eliminated in the B1G-W race.  The winner will still need help.  

MSU/UMD:
Maryland hasn't played a competitive B1G game all year (three blowout wins over bad teams, two blowout losses to good teams) maybe this will be the week?  

RU/UW:
This should be a great opportunity for Wisconsin to get back on track.  

MN/IL:
Probably a bowl elimination game for the Gophers.  
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: Hawkinole on October 29, 2018, 07:08:45 PM
1. Michigan
2. Ohio State
3. Penn State
4. Northwestern
5. Iowa
6. MSU
7. Wisc.
8. Purdue
9. Maryland
10. Nebraska
11. Minnesota
12. Indiana
13. Illinois
14. Rutgers
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 29, 2018, 07:49:36 PM
I added in @Hawkinole (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=25) 's vote, no changes.  
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 30, 2018, 11:10:43 AM
I have posted about this the past few weeks, but November 10th is really shaping up to be a great day for viewing B1G football because nearly all of the matchups should be good.  All 14 B1G teams play conference games that day.  One is #1 Michigan at #14 Rutgers which is, theoretically, the second worst possible matchup (only RU at M would be worse) but the other six games are all between teams within four spots in the current rankings:

Other than M/RU, I see all of those as games that could realistically go either way.  
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 30, 2018, 11:16:14 AM
On the right day, Rutgers could maybe beat Mich again. 
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: FearlessF on October 30, 2018, 11:31:12 AM
hey, this is great.

A week after Scott Frost gets blown out in the Shoe, there's a winnable game on the schedule!
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 30, 2018, 12:16:35 PM
He should guarantee a victory in his Monday morning presser. 
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: iahawk15 on October 30, 2018, 01:32:06 PM
I'm late getting my rankings in, no need to include.

1) Michigan (1)
2) Ohio State (2)
3) Penn State (3)
4) Iowa (4)
5) Michigan State (6)
6) Northwestern (8)
7) Wisconsin (5)
8) Purdue (7)
9) Maryland (9)
10) Nebraska (11)
11) Minnesota (12)
12) Indiana (10)

13) Illinois (13)
14) Rutgers (14)
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 30, 2018, 02:28:12 PM
I added in @iahawk15 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=874) 's vote, no changes.  He literally voted exactly as the teams were already ordered.  
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: iahawk15 on October 30, 2018, 02:39:14 PM
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on October 30, 2018, 02:28:12 PM
I added in @iahawk15 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=874) 's vote, no changes.  He literally voted exactly as the teams were already ordered.  
Ha! 
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: ELA on October 30, 2018, 04:58:52 PM
Massey composite rankings (89 rankings), with last week in parenthesis...


Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: TyphonInc on October 30, 2018, 06:33:35 PM
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on October 30, 2018, 11:16:14 AM
On the right day, Rutgers could maybe beat Mich again.
LOL. best joke I've heard today.
Title: Re: B1G Power Rankings, Week 9
Post by: RestingB!tchFace on November 03, 2018, 12:03:42 PM
Impossible.  The Big Ten has been a jumble of crap this year.  I don't want to place my Gophers anywhere (it would be near the bottom).  I think that Indy is probably the better team overall....despite our win last week.  And Nebraska has been a trainwreak and destroyed us.  Purdue making OSU look like clowns?  There's no good way to rank these teams.