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Title: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
Post by: GopherRock on October 16, 2018, 06:48:15 PM
First off, there were sufficient errors in the Week 6 for me to post a new results chart:

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Week 6
Iowa106
UsernameGuessDiffScore
Anon Coward14539-5
ALA2262149432
ELA151453
MrNubbz155494
cincydawg159535
ohio1317162566
Fearless167617
WhiskeyM174688
longhorn320180749
TyphonInc1817510
Entropy1857911
iahawk151868012
honestbuckeye1989213
rolltidefan2009414
Badger19692039714
huskerdinie2039716
847badgerfan21310717
medinabuckeye21510918
LetsGoPeay22111519
riffraft22511920
MarqHusker23212621
benthere228618022
AVERAGE190.5
STD DEV33.8

And now, on to the Week 7 results.

Q: What is Wisconsin's TOP at Michigan?
A: 22:59

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Week 7
Wisconsin0:22:59
UsernameGuessDiffScore
WhiskeyM0:27:460:04:47-5
MarqHusker0:28:210:05:222
Fearless0:28:220:05:233
jhetfield0:29:000:06:014
iahawk150:29:590:07:005
TyphonInc0:30:000:07:016
ohio13170:30:010:07:027
ELA0:30:040:07:058
longhorn3200:30:120:07:139
honestbuckeye0:30:450:07:4610
Anon Coward0:31:130:08:1411
benthere20:31:430:08:4412
rolltidefan0:32:120:09:1313
ALA22620:32:260:09:2714
Badger19690:32:500:09:5115
huskerdinie0:33:150:10:1616
MrNubbz0:33:240:10:2517
medinabuckeye0:34:000:11:0118
riffraft0:34:020:11:0319
847badgerfan0:34:220:11:2320
LetsGoPeay0:36:030:13:0421
AVERAGE0:31:26
STD DEV0:02:16

Ugh. Another ugly one.

On to Iowa City. Maryland has a couple of nice wins, but Matt Canada can't keep a hold on things forever. They are dead last in the conference, being flagged 10.2 times for 92.3 penalty yards per game. They go to Iowa this week, and the Hawks are mid-pack, at 6.8 penalties and 61.9 ypg.

Q: How many penalty yards will Iowa and Maryland combine for?

Deadline is Saturday, October 20 at 11 AM CDT.  Good hunting.
Title: Re: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 16, 2018, 08:46:55 PM
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Title: Re: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
Post by: FearlessF on October 22, 2018, 11:12:56 AM
Hawks had zero penalties in this game!

impressive
Title: Re: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
Post by: rolltidefan on October 22, 2018, 11:16:39 AM
Quote from: FearlessF on October 22, 2018, 11:12:56 AM
Hawks had zero penalties in this game!

impressive
second time this year we've had everyone just totally miss the mark.
Title: Re: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
Post by: longhorn320 on October 22, 2018, 02:14:05 PM
Quote from: rolltidefan on October 22, 2018, 11:16:39 AM
second time this year we've had everyone just totally miss the mark.
well what do you expect
both teams were ranked above 100 in penalty yardage
I find it almost impossible for Iowa to not have one penalty
I havent looked buy Id bet it will be the only time all season a Big team does that
Title: Re: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
Post by: rolltidefan on October 22, 2018, 03:01:57 PM
Quote from: longhorn320 on October 22, 2018, 02:14:05 PM
well what do you expect
both teams were ranked above 100 in penalty yardage
I find it almost impossible for Iowa to not have one penalty
I havent looked buy Id bet it will be the only time all season a Big team does that
you are correct to date. though nw, minn, mich and iowa (beside this one) have all had games with only 1. fwiw, no sec team has 0 yet, and only 1 (miss st) has had a 1 penalty game.
from a different perspective, holy hell, wtf is wrong with osu and neb? averaging almost 10/game and it's not skewed with some crazy high penalty game. it's a legit 10/game. maryland is right there too, but they have a couple of crazy high game, and a couple of low games.
Title: Re: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
Post by: FearlessF on October 22, 2018, 08:48:18 PM
well, the Hawks were playing in the friendly confines of Kinnick
Title: Re: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
Post by: FearlessF on October 22, 2018, 08:49:49 PM
I found this interesting.....................

Nebraska had a penalty-free first quarter and committed just six for the game, compared to Minnesota’s eight. In fact, when the Gophers were whistled for holding in the first quarter, it nullified a touchdown — convincing proof that things just might go Nebraska’s way. On the BTN telecast, play-by-play announcer Kevin Kugler pointed out that it was the first time in 21 Big Ten games that Nebraska’s opponent had been called for holding, which would have been the Indiana game at Bloomington Oct. 15, 2016, near the end of Mike Riley’s eight-game winning streak. That should give conspiracy theorists something to talk about for the next week.
Title: Re: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
Post by: MarqHusker on October 22, 2018, 09:08:28 PM
It's well documented the B1G refs throw fewer flags than the other P5 leagues.  I always wager the under in P yards relative to avg, since those games include OOC refs from Aug. And Sept.

I believe XII consistently is #1 in penalties.
Title: Re: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
Post by: FearlessF on October 22, 2018, 09:34:38 PM
doesn't seem to be the case for the Huskers since joining the league

2018 PENALTIES-Yards...............       67-619
  Average Per Game............         88.4

Riley
2017 - 75-728
2016 - 75-695
2015 - 94-829
Pelini
2014 - 75-655
2013 - 76-665
2012 - 88-847
2011 - 86-688
Big 12
2010 - 109-993
2009 - 100-894
2008 - 94-800
Callahan
2007 - 77-589
2006 - 74-614
2005 - 89-693
2004 - 75-561
Solich
2003 - 89-710
2002 - 85-784
2001 - 69-674
2000 - 71-622
1999 - 63-566

All Husker fans understand the inflated numbers in 2009 and 2010
Title: Re: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
Post by: GopherRock on October 22, 2018, 11:02:42 PM
FYI this is the third week in a row where the actual answer was further than 3 standard deviations from the average of guesses. 
Title: Re: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
Post by: MarqHusker on October 22, 2018, 11:07:53 PM
Nebraska has been it's own outlier w flags for some time
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Post by: FearlessF on October 22, 2018, 11:21:21 PM
true, and unfortunately Frost's undefeated UCF Knights had many more flags than most last season
Title: Re: Resident Genius Week 8: And It Was All Yellow
Post by: rolltidefan on October 23, 2018, 12:36:55 PM
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It's well documented the B1G refs throw fewer flags than the other P5 leagues.  I always wager the under in P yards relative to avg, since those games include OOC refs from Aug. And Sept.

I believe XII consistently is #1 in penalties.
not sure that's the case this season so far.
when sorting for conf games only, if this were true you'd expect b1g teams to be huddled near the low end of pen/g, and conversely the bigxii near the top end. neither is true so far this season.
using only p5 conference,  the acc is the least penalized, with the sec the most (but not most severely, see below).
the ave rank (again, only p5, so 65 teams (nd included)) of each conf is (simple rank sum/total teams in conf):
20.43/33.93/36.50/35.50/41.43
acc/b1g/12/pac/sec
the ave penalties/g/team/conf is (sum of pen/g per team/ total teams in conf):
5.26/6.36/6.53/6.33/6.79
acc/b1g/12/pac/sec
the acc has a huddle of teams near the lower middle (teens-20s)
the b1g has a nice spread from top to bottom
the big12 has 2 clusters, 1 near top, 1 nearer bottom
pac has decent spread, with small cluster near center
sec has cluster near middle/top middle, with none in top 20 (everyone else has at least 3)
as for yardage, the b1g leads slightly, meaning their penalties slightly tend to be the larger ones more so than other confs. ave pen yds/g/team/conf:
45.09/61.91/59.30/59.77/58.31
acc/b1g/12/pac/sec
sec drops to 2nd best from worst, falling more inline with the others (sans acc), meaning theirs tend to be of the less severe penalties.
this is confirmed in the yds/pen, which is here:
8.65/9.75/9.06/9.42/8.56
acc/b1g/12/pac/sec
sec drops down further to #1, with acc coming more inline with the rest.
so for sec, even though they get the most penalties on ave, theirs tend to be either less severe, or closer to goallines.


as far as any bias towards bluebloods and/or title contenders, etc, i don't see it after a glance. in fact, it could be argued bias against the contenders, as all but clemson (15), nd (13) (used only games vs p5 opp in chart), and lsu (27) are in top half, with the rest (bama 38, texas 44, ou 41, osu 61, mich 46, wash st 52, uga 43, uf 63) in bottom half.

here is raw data (pulled from cfbstats.com and dropped into excel) if anyone wants to play with it:

           
rankteamgames.penalties.yards.pen/g.yds/g.yds/pen.conf
1Washington (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/756/penalty/offense/split.html)5.17.158.3.40.31.60.9.29.pac
2Northwestern (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/509/penalty/offense/split.html)5.18.170.3.60.34.00.9.44.b1g
3Georgia Tech (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/255/penalty/offense/split.html)4.15.128.3.75.32.00.8.53.acc
4Minnesota (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/428/penalty/offense/split.html)4.15.165.3.75.41.25.11.00.b1g
5Duke (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/193/penalty/offense/split.html)3.12.97.4.00.32.33.8.08.acc
6Pittsburgh (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/545/penalty/offense/split.html)3.12.108.4.00.36.00.9.00.acc
7Iowa (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/312/penalty/offense/split.html)4.17.160.4.25.40.00.9.41.b1g
8Wake Forest (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/749/penalty/offense/split.html)3.13.155.4.33.51.67.11.92.acc
9Kansas State (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/327/penalty/offense/split.html)4.18.164.4.50.41.00.9.11.12
10TCU (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/698/penalty/offense/split.html)4.18.158.4.50.39.50.8.78.12
11North Carolina State (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/490/penalty/offense/split.html)3.14.134.4.67.44.67.9.57.acc
12Stanford (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/674/penalty/offense/split.html)4.19.153.4.75.38.25.8.05.pac
13Notre Dame6.29.261.4.83.43.50.9.00.Ind
14Iowa State (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/311/penalty/offense/split.html)4.20.181.5.00.45.25.9.05.12
15Clemson (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/147/penalty/offense/split.html)4.20.179.5.00.44.75.8.95.acc
16Michigan State (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/416/penalty/offense/split.html)4.20.181.5.00.45.25.9.05.b1g
17Arizona State (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/28/penalty/offense/split.html)4.20.198.5.00.49.50.9.90.pac
18North Carolina (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/457/penalty/offense/split.html)4.21.154.5.25.38.50.7.33.acc
19Virginia (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/746/penalty/offense/split.html)4.21.206.5.25.51.50.9.81.acc
20Wisconsin (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/796/penalty/offense/split.html)4.21.198.5.25.49.50.9.43.b1g
21Arkansas (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/31/penalty/offense/split.html)4.21.203.5.25.50.75.9.67.sec
22Louisville (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/367/penalty/offense/split.html)4.22.195.5.50.48.75.8.86.acc
23Virginia Tech (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/742/penalty/offense/split.html)3.17.140.5.67.46.67.8.24.acc
24Boston College3.17.132.5.67.44.00.7.76.acc
25Kansas (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/328/penalty/offense/split.html)4.23.205.5.75.51.25.8.91.12
26Vanderbilt (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/736/penalty/offense/split.html)4.23.143.5.75.35.75.6.22.sec
27LSU (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/365/penalty/offense/split.html)5.29.278.5.80.55.60.9.59.sec
28Illinois (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/301/penalty/offense/split.html)4.24.243.6.00.60.75.10.13.b1g
29Penn State (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/539/penalty/offense/split.html)4.24.217.6.00.54.25.9.04.b1g
30California (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/107/penalty/offense/split.html)4.24.231.6.00.57.75.9.63.pac
31Colorado (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/157/penalty/offense/split.html)4.24.249.6.00.62.25.10.38.pac
32Oregon (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/529/penalty/offense/split.html)4.24.218.6.00.54.50.9.08.pac
33Mississippi State (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/430/penalty/offense/split.html)4.24.214.6.00.53.50.8.92.sec
34Syracuse4.24.141.6.00.35.25.5.88.acc
35Indiana (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/306/penalty/offense/split.html)5.31.334.6.20.66.80.10.77.b1g
36Auburn (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/37/penalty/offense/split.html)5.31.279.6.20.55.80.9.00.sec
37Tennessee (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/694/penalty/offense/split.html)4.25.182.6.25.45.50.7.28.sec
38Alabama (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/8/penalty/offense/split.html)5.32.269.6.40.53.80.8.41.sec
39Oregon State (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/528/penalty/offense/split.html)4.26.247.6.50.61.75.9.50.pac
40Missouri (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/434/penalty/offense/split.html)3.20.166.6.67.55.33.8.30.sec
41Oklahoma (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/522/penalty/offense/split.html)4.27.273.6.75.68.25.10.11.12
42Rutgers (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/587/penalty/offense/split.html)5.34.323.6.80.64.60.9.50.b1g
43Georgia (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/257/penalty/offense/split.html)5.34.288.6.80.57.60.8.47.sec
44Texas (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/703/penalty/offense/split.html)4.28.224.7.00.56.00.8.00.12
45Miami (Florida) (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/415/penalty/offense/split.html)3.21.186.7.00.62.00.8.86.acc
46Michigan (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/418/penalty/offense/split.html)5.35.343.7.00.68.60.9.80.b1g
47UCLA (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/110/penalty/offense/split.html)4.28.245.7.00.61.25.8.75.pac
48South Carolina (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/648/penalty/offense/split.html)5.35.310.7.00.62.00.8.86.sec
49Arizona (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/29/penalty/offense/split.html)5.36.327.7.20.65.40.9.08.pac
50Texas A&M (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/697/penalty/offense/split.html)4.29.236.7.25.59.00.8.14.sec
51Texas Tech (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/700/penalty/offense/split.html)4.30.224.7.50.56.00.7.47.12
52Washington State (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/754/penalty/offense/split.html)4.30.323.7.50.80.75.10.77.pac
53Florida State (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/234/penalty/offense/split.html)5.38.316.7.60.63.20.8.32.acc
54Utah (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/732/penalty/offense/split.html)5.38.359.7.60.71.80.9.45.pac
55West Virginia (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/768/penalty/offense/split.html)4.31.303.7.75.75.75.9.77.12
56Purdue (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/559/penalty/offense/split.html)4.31.310.7.75.77.50.10.00.b1g
57Oklahoma State (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/521/penalty/offense/split.html)4.32.322.8.00.80.50.10.06.12
58Kentucky (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/334/penalty/offense/split.html)5.40.358.8.00.71.60.8.95.sec
59Baylor (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/51/penalty/offense/split.html)4.34.318.8.50.79.50.9.35.12
60Mississippi (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/433/penalty/offense/split.html)4.35.319.8.75.79.75.9.11.sec
61Ohio State (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/518/penalty/offense/split.html)5.45.429.9.00.85.80.9.53.b1g
62USC (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/657/penalty/offense/split.html)5.45.412.9.00.82.40.9.16.pac
63Florida (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/235/penalty/offense/split.html)5.45.402.9.00.80.40.8.93.sec
64Nebraska (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/463/penalty/offense/split.html)5.46.447.9.20.89.40.9.72.b1g
65Maryland (http://www.cfbstats.com/2018/team/392/penalty/offense/split.html)4.37.356.9.25.89.00.9.62.b1g