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The Power Four => Big Ten => Topic started by: 847badgerfan on September 23, 2026, 02:18:47 PM
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I'd love to think there is a chance but the last time Wisconsin won there was 2003. I was there with Gatorama.
Penn State hasn't played anyone yet, so this could get sneaky. Wisconsin has only played ND, and if they can put in the kind of performance they did in the first half of that game, things could get interesting.
I'm still picking Penn State.
This is a huge deal. One of the best WR in the country is out for Penn State.
https://twitter.com/Ben_Jones88/status/2102792512133882083 (https://twitter.com/Ben_Jones88/status/2102792512133882083)
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I'll be pulling for the RED team
tough place to play on the road
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There’s that hope that maybe UW will have its shit together. Like, it could happen.
But when the coach is who he is, you assume it won’t happen until it does.
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There’s that hope that maybe UW will have its shit together. Like, it could happen.
But when the coach is who he is, you assume it won’t happen until it does.
He was an excellent coach before he got there. Hmmm???
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I'm interested to see if Penn State really is good, with that giant turnover in the roster. And my Cats losing close games to Rocco and Campbell the last several years would seem less painful if they are.
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He was an excellent coach before he got there. Hmmm???
Not proven at the P4 level, unless you want to count his 6-7 season at Ohio State.
Let's face it. Cincy got into the playoffs because of one win - Notre Dame.
After that 2021 season, ND took his DC and LSU took his OC (now both at ND as HC and OC, respectively). ND also has several of his former assistants on staff now.
Fickell had a great staff at Cincy. He hasn't been the same since - including 2022 at Cincy with 4 losses after he lost his key guys.
That 2022 falloff and 2011 were red flags, but I was optimistic. Oh well.
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I thought Fickell was a great hire. I do not think that he is an adequate coach.
I suspect Wisconsin will get steamrolled this week. It won't be by a million points, just Wisconsin's offense won't go very far. Wisconsin's D will hold up for a half, as it often has against real opponents. I suspect PSU will beat the point spread. 23-10 or so. I'll actually be a little surprised if Wisconsin gets to 10. So maybe 23-9?
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It all depends on the OL play. They must establish the run game and so far, they have been unable to do so.
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Did I just type that about Wisconsin football?
Where am I?
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I'm interested to see if Penn State really is good, with that giant turnover in the roster. And my Cats losing close games to Rocco and Campbell the last several years would seem less painful if they are.
I don't think Wisconsin is a great measuring stick to see if anyone's any good at this point.
They'll probably play tight for a half, and fold like a Hallmark card in the second when things get tough.
They are soft.
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He was an excellent coach before he got there. Hmmm???
He was good at building talented rosters. I don’t know that he had a great rep as a gameday coach.
And now that he’s not building as talented of rosters (due to a range of factors), the game days stuff is looking much worse.
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His routine failures in the second half indicate Xs and Os issues.
But there is still (a little) time to prove me wrong.
One thing that did not impress me was beating up on Eastern Michigan. Do. Not. Care. Win a real game.
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Not proven at the P4 level, unless you want to count his 6-7 season at Ohio State.
Let's face it. Cincy got into the playoffs because of one win - Notre Dame.
After that 2021 season, ND took his DC and LSU took his OC (now both at ND as HC and OC, respectively). ND also has several of his former assistants on staff now.
Fickell had a great staff at Cincy. He hasn't been the same since - including 2022 at Cincy with 4 losses after he lost his key guys.
That 2022 falloff and 2011 were red flags, but I was optimistic. Oh well.
This is a great point Fickell's weight of will/personality wasn't able to carry over w/o them. Say like a Jimmy Johnson/Nick Saban/URBZ or an a Alverez could have musterd. Chit you want to see a guy who could pick assistants look no further than Earle Bruce. He assembled some jaw dropping staffs in C-Bus
Nick Saban
Urban Meyer
Pete Carroll
Jim Tressel
Mark Dantonio
Dom Capers
Glenn Mason
Amongst others at one time or another pitched a tent at ole 8-3 Camp Earle
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Hayden Fry is the best assistant hiring coach ever and that will never change.
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https://twitter.com/PSU_Dylan/status/2102789369337721178 (https://twitter.com/PSU_Dylan/status/2102789369337721178)
(https://i.imgur.com/cjdIYDT.png)
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https://twitter.com/PSU_Dylan/status/2098854750305329303 (https://twitter.com/PSU_Dylan/status/2098854750305329303)
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Hayden Fry is the best assistant hiring coach ever and that will never change.
I dunno Schnellenberger had only been a head coach one season when he took over the 'Canes. They had 13 previous seasons before that. Jim Tressel was an asst. before taking over Youngstown St. and winning 4 National Titles in 6 appearances in Div I-AA
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THE BASE OF THE TREE: HAYDEN FRY’S 1983 COACHING STAFF | Black Heart Gold Pants (https://www.blackheartgoldpants.com/2014/6/20/5823870/the-base-of-the-tree-hayden-frys-1983-coaching-staff)
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Penn State 34, Wisconsin 17
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I dunno Schnellenberger had only been a head coach one season when he took over the 'Canes. They had 13 previous seasons before that. Jim Tressel was an asst. before taking over Youngstown St. and winning 4 National Titles in 6 appearances in Div I-AA
I think he means he hired the best assistants, aka had the best coaching tree.
It's tough to argue against it
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Impressive list no doubt but thru the years Earle consistently could pick 'em,they're never there for long then you gotta find a replacement. As Lombardi said "winning isn't everything it's the only thing" go count those NC's :dance:
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geezzz, have AI count up the head coaching wins for all Fry's assistants and compare to Earle's and/or Smellenburger's assistants - throw in conference championships and MNC if y'all like
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Or take it to the OSU thread.
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or the Iowa/Michigan thread ;)
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It's not just the wins, I'd put the Wisconsin, Kansas State and Oklahoma 90s turnarounds up against anything this side of Oregon
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or Iowa in the early 80s
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or the Iowa/Michigan thread ;)
That's for Penn State talk
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or Iowa in the early 80s
I meant among 90s turnarounds