probably won't matter for us, but the socceroos (australia) just won their confed playoff spot to be in the november playoff with the concacaf playoff team (likely hon or pan, but could be us)Well you're right that it isn't going to matter.
Well you're right that it isn't going to matter.Lol came here to post that. Sad.
I mean, was this thing even on TV? On a relatively boring sports night in the middle of the week, this should have been a huge deal.one issue is the misconception that soccer players don't make anything.
I know it's been discussed ad nauseam, but soccer's just never going to be much in this country until it's made a priority with money and advertising. As long as kids can dream to make big money in baseball, football and basketball, they'll migrate to those in the HS years over the pennies (relatively speaking) that US soccer players make.
It'll take some imagination, but it can happen. Then again, it's been said now the same way for the past 20 years and really nothing's changed at all other than some small gains by MLS.
On a total side track, but interesting to me (and maybe other PSU fans) - the last time the USMNT didn't make the WC? 1982 and 1986. :)
one issue is the misconception that soccer players don't make anything.But that's just it - they have to go overseas to do it. If you're given a chance to be a big time baseball player and play your entire career here in the States, or be a big time soccer player and have to move to a foreign country, what are you going to do? Heck, seems like even a lot of great soccer players try to transform that into a football kicking career.
6 of the top 10 highest paying leagues in the world are soccer leagues (from 2015 data). nba and mlb are both above the epl (as is the india cricket league, surprisingly) but not by much.
likewise, of the 2016 top 25 highest paid athletes, football and soccer lead the way with 6 and 5 respectively, while nba was at 3.
there's plenty of money to be made in soccer. and the euro leagues aren't averse to american players. the bundesliga (germany top league, 2nd best in world) seems to have made americans a priority even.
we need to stop pretending the mls can be one of the premier soccer leagues in the world. it isn't going to happen. it's not even top 3 in our hemisphere. we need to be getting our players into the europe leagues when we can, like they do for nba/mlb/etc.
and we're a large enough population that we can have top athletes in many different sports. we have dominant athletes in lower tier sports like swimming, boxing/mma, tennis (or have), gymnastics, track and field, etc. no reason we can also have a competitive national soccer team.
my son is 7... every Saturday he wakes up early to watch Premier League soccer on NBCSN. He's religious about it.Yep, it's gaining ground. TV access to the EPL and Bundesliga have sped it up. I don't pretend to live in a representative area, but I see as many international soccer jerseys at my kids public schools as I do NFL jerseys.
At school, when I either attend for an event, volunteer or pick up my kids it is noticeable how many soccer jerseys/shirts I see compared to football, baseball or basketball. yes, Chiefs day dominates.. and so does Royals Fridays, but outside that it is soccer. Sporting is very good and kids in KC have access to watch several European leagues. It is much more popular today with kids compared to when I was growing up.
It may never top Football, Baseball or Basketball, but it has gained ground and I believe will continue to gain ground.
the saddest part is a guy like Pulisic could have made millions by playing in the WC, now he won't. not to mention the kid is a phenom that the world could have seen on the biggest stage.The exchange rate isn't what its used to be but barring injury he's going to make a minimum of 175K/week UK in England (about 13M/year). If say Man city comes for him he'll make 200K+/week for being a squad (largely a bench) player.
my son is 7... every Saturday he wakes up early to watch Premier League soccer on NBCSN. He's religious about it.it's closer to baseball and basketball that you'd think. football, unsurprisingly, is #1 by a wide but shrinking margin (37%) (also has interesting take on the kneeling/national anthem trend), basketball (11%) and baseball (9%) are just ahead of soccer (7%) as mentioned for favorite sports for americans.
At school, when I either attend for an event, volunteer or pick up my kids it is noticeable how many soccer jerseys/shirts I see compared to football, baseball or basketball. yes, Chiefs day dominates.. and so does Royals Fridays, but outside that it is soccer. Sporting is very good and kids in KC have access to watch several European leagues. It is much more popular today with kids compared to when I was growing up.
It may never top Football, Baseball or Basketball, but it has gained ground and I believe will continue to gain ground.
it's closer to baseball and basketball that you'd think. football, unsurprisingly, is #1 by a wide but shrinking margin (37%) (also has interesting take on the kneeling/national anthem trend), basketball (11%) and baseball (9%) are just ahead of soccer (7%) as mentioned for favorite sports for americans.I think part of it there though, is a lot of the traditional fans, just have football-basketball-baseball 1-2-3 in some order (with the majority picking football). So I'm guessing basketball does more favorably among the 89% who don't say it's their favorite, than soccer does among the 93% who say it isn't.
looking at age groups, the older crowd (55+) is keeping baseball relevant (14% and #2) and soccer down (1%). among the 2 groups under 55 (18-34,35-54) soccer and basketball are basically tied at 10-11%, and baseball is down to 6-7%.
http://news.gallup.com/poll/224864/football-americans-favorite-sport-watch.aspx (http://news.gallup.com/poll/224864/football-americans-favorite-sport-watch.aspx)
probably, but i bet the age demographics would still favor soccer over baseball. at least be trending that way.I agree.
it's closer to baseball and basketball that you'd think. football, unsurprisingly, is #1 by a wide but shrinking margin (37%) (also has interesting take on the kneeling/national anthem trend), basketball (11%) and baseball (9%) are just ahead of soccer (7%) as mentioned for favorite sports for americans.Good information. thanks for sharing. I had not realized soccer was closing in on baseball that quickly, at least when it came to favorite sports.
looking at age groups, the older crowd (55+) is keeping baseball relevant (14% and #2) and soccer down (1%). among the 2 groups under 55 (18-34,35-54) soccer and basketball are basically tied at 10-11%, and baseball is down to 6-7%.
http://news.gallup.com/poll/224864/football-americans-favorite-sport-watch.aspx (http://news.gallup.com/poll/224864/football-americans-favorite-sport-watch.aspx)
I agree.With a 13 and 10-year old, I spend way too much of my life thinking about youth sports, but (1) it's a shame that people think you need to play a sport year round at age 9; (2) many sports--baseball and softball at the top of the list--need to find ways to develop young players without trying to make the 9-year olds play the adult version of the game (baseball and softball are way behind the curve on this); and (3) one of the biggest problems with youth sports in this country is the lure of the NCAA scholarship (the biggest problem with youth sports is parents). ;)
I think participation and specialization are exacerbating that. I played both growing up, but I enjoyed soccer more. You are a kid, baseball is boring. It's slow, it's scheme over style. I didn't start to enjoy baseball til I got older, now it's my favorite sport. I know a lot of kids that played baseball just because it was the only organized sport going on in the summer, didn't really love it, but by high school, figured out they were really good, and started to really enjoy it.
That's not the case anymore. You better figure out by 9 what your sport is, and then you play it year round. No 9 year old is picking baseball over everything else.
With a 13 and 10-year old, I spend way too much of my life thinking about youth sports, but (1) it's a shame that people think you need to play a sport year round at age 9; (2) many sports--baseball and softball at the top of the list--need to find ways to develop young players without trying to make the 9-year olds play the adult version of the game (baseball and softball are way behind the curve on this); and (3) one of the biggest problems with youth sports in this country is the lure of the NCAA scholarship (the biggest problem with youth sports is parents). ;)I'd say the biggest problem with youth sports is not the parents (they are a problem) but rather when we were growing up, coaching was a part time job. Today, many have turned it into full time roles with multiple teams. You want to play on a non YMCA team, it's a 9 month commitment for soccer here in KC (few exceptions). Like gymnastics... 20hrs a week to move up. Don't want to do that to your 8 yr old daughter, no problem. We just won't teach her anything more. Dance...? well, it's a 11 month commitment if you want them learn.
I'd say the biggest problem with youth sports is not the parents (they are a problem) but rather when we were growing up, coaching was a part time job. Today, many have turned it into full time roles with multiple teams. You want to play on a non YMCA team, it's a 9 month commitment for soccer here in KC (few exceptions). Like gymnastics... 20hrs a week to move up. Don't want to do that to your 8 yr old daughter, no problem. We just won't teach her anything more. Dance...? well, it's a 11 month commitment if you want them learn.We're basically speaking the same language, but I can tell you that even in 3-month recreational seasons, parents are still the biggest problems. :-)
Parents make choices, but the options are becoming more constrained. As a parent who wants their kids playing multiple sports or in multiple activities, it is tougher. I'm sure we could do better. It is also tough when they want to play with their friends. And I get that.. we all did.
That's ridiculous. Talk about spooking away otherwise enthusiastic parents. That would make me so angry.Yeah my guess is baseball can afford to be more selective, but why? Since he's our oldest, it's our first year in the system, so I'll probably sit this one out anyway, but I'm not spending the time to take all of those classes, nor should I. I can teach fundamentals just as well as any of the "unqualified" parents have been forever. I'm sure having some overqualified guy who peaked as an All-Regional HS selection, and is now living through coaching 8 year olds, none of whom are his kids, is really going to help this generation love the game.
For volleyball, where I'm sure the pool of parents who know the game is much smaller than baseball, the only mandatory requirement (besides the background check) was to attend a 90 minute orientation with the local HS coaches who demonstrated the things to emphasize. It was perfectly appropriate.
Kids should be coaching 1st base too, not the parents. Keeps their head in the game.I've been feeling a little guilty about derailing things, too, but hey, my daughter has a soccer game tomorrow morning... (yes, outdoors; that's how California rolls).
We have teens handle all of the officiating and line judging in vball. Very sensible.
sorry to hijack the soccer thread with LL talk. That gives me a yellow card, no? I'll admit I played one season of soccer as a youth and stopped, once I could play football. I helped volunteer with my kids in their one and only soccer season. It is organized to death, but there seems to be a pretty clear division between the 'rec league' and these 'travel' squads.
My son is now old enough to start T-Ball this summer, and I was toying with the diea of helping coach. The level of background and coaching clearances now makes me not want to do it. I get the background checks, those are necessary. But I have to be a Level 3 USA Baseball certified instructor to help out a bunch of 5 and 6 year olds playing T-Ball? My dad coached our baseball team until I was probably 10 based on the qualifications that he played HS baseball, and was willing to do it. It just seems all way to serious at a way too young age.My dad coached T-shirt league (8-9 year olds), the qualifications were: do you want to coach T-shirt ball? Then OK here's a team.
Walter Mathau's character sure as crap wouldn't be coaching today.
My dad coached T-shirt league (8-9 year olds), the qualifications were: do you want to coach T-shirt ball? Then OK here's a team.While I appreciate the sentiment, in a world in which we know that most child abuse (sexual and otherwise) comes from authority figure adults in children's lives, and no insurance company will pay the bill for a child's injury without first enquiring whether it was someone's fault and attempting to shift financial responsibility, no local sports board can afford to operate this way today.
While I appreciate the sentiment, in a world in which we know that most child abuse (sexual and otherwise) comes from authority figure adults in children's lives, and no insurance company will pay the bill for a child's injury without first enquiring whether it was someone's fault and attempting to shift financial responsibility, no local sports board can afford to operate this way today.Right, as I said, I don't mind the background check part.
In some sense it's a shame, but there have always been bad actors, and better to steer our children away from them. Doing a background check isn't much of a burden, and having proper insurance is imperative.
While I appreciate the sentiment, in a world in which we know that most child abuse (sexual and otherwise) comes from authority figure adults in children's lives, and no insurance company will pay the bill for a child's injury without first enquiring whether it was someone's fault and attempting to shift financial responsibility, no local sports board can afford to operate this way today.maybe it's alabama being behind the times or something, but we pretty much operate that way still. i am unaware of any background checks run on me, and i've coached my kids for the last 3 seasons. my brother and brother-in-law have similar experiences (baseball and soccer leagues). not that i'm opposed to it.
In some sense it's a shame, but there have always been bad actors, and better to steer our children away from them. Doing a background check isn't much of a burden, and having proper insurance is imperative.
maybe it's alabama being behind the times or something, but we pretty much operate that way still. i am unaware of any background checks run on me, and i've coached my kids for the last 3 seasons. my brother and brother-in-law have similar experiences (baseball and soccer leagues). not that i'm opposed to it.I mean, considering the recent Senate election, I'm sure a joke about Alabama's concern (or lack thereof) over background checks and contact with minors is there to be made, but out of fear of driving this thing even farther off course...
Wisconsin's Chris Mueller (Orlando) and Mark Segbers (New England) are first round MLS picks (6th and 9th overall). That's kinda cool.How the hell were they so bad until they got hot, won the BTT and got an auto-bid? Didn't they finish like 6th in the conference?
I mean, considering the recent Senate election, I'm sure a joke about Alabama's concern (or lack thereof) over background checks and contact with minors is there to be made, but out of fear of driving this thing even farther off course...considering how deeply red alabama is and the fact that blue won, i'd think that speaks well of alabama's concern over those issues mentioned.
As to the no drop off thing, my kids are young enough that I would never consider it yet, but I imagine at some point wouldn't you WANT no parents at practice? I think by the time I was 9, my parents just dropped me off for basketball and soccer practice (baseball was different with my dad coaching). I would think having them at pracitce leads to kids looking to their parents, not the coach, and might make the coach hesitant to coach up the kids too much with dad looking on.
How the hell were they so bad until they got hot, won the BTT and got an auto-bid? Didn't they finish like 6th in the conference?You have reached beyond my knowledge of college soccer. :-)
mls just approved new rule letting mls clubs keep 100% of proceeds from selling player. good move that should have been made from the beginning.How does this work with a salary cap?
link (https://twitter.com/andrew_wiebe/status/956945576028966917)
How does this work with a salary cap?i'm not sure, i don't know the mls cap rules and those can make big differences in the effect. i'm barely a soccer novice, much less expert, but i think other leagues, particularly in europe, don't have issue working them together.
The Concacaf (N American) Champions League gets underway in February, and runs through April.The second leg of the round of 16 gets underway tonight, in the Concacaf Champions League, and runs through Thursday, March 1st.
Here is the BRACKET (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_CONCACAF_Champions_League)
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There are 5 MLS teams that will be participating (based on their 2016 accomplishments); 4 from the US and one from Canada.
They are:
-Seattle Sounders FC: MLS Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_MLS_Cup_Playoffs) Winner
-FC Dallas: Supporters Shield (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Major_League_Soccer_season) / US Open (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Lamar_Hunt_U.S._Open_Cup) Champions
-Red Bull NY: Eastern Conference (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Major_League_Soccer_season) Champion
-Colorado Rapids: Supporters Shield runner up (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Major_League_Soccer_season) (at large bid, as Dallas snapped up two of the four automatic qualifiers for the USA)
-Toronto FC: Canadian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Canadian_Championship) Champion
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Colorado and Toronto will face each other in the opening round of 16. Dallas faces the team from Panama, Seattle faces the team from El Salvador, and New York faces one of the two Honduras teams.
The round of 8 "could" be all USA vs Mexico, IF the four teams from each country win their opening round match up.
fc dallas won, but tied on aggregate and lost on away goals. they're out.Both of those things happened.
toronto and colorado tied, which puts toronto advancing and colorado exiting on 2-0 aggregate.
redbulls and sounders both play today. redbulls just need a win or 0-0 draw to advance on away goals. sounders need to win by 2 to win by aggregate or win 1-0 to win on away goals.
damn, forgot about 2nd leg and didn't watch.My team is knocked out of Champions, but remains alive in FA Cup, so there you have it...
uefa cl 2nd leg of semis are today (bayern and real madrid) and tomorrow (roma and liverpool) if you want to catch some high quality soccer.
Have fans moved on or are they still showing up?In yet another deceitful / poor practice of Precourt/MLS; 22 teams report tickets sold, Only the Columbus Crew reports tickets scanned at the gate. But only about 9k die hard fans show up to the game.
US Open CupBumping the match ups to this page
The Bracket (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_U.S._Open_Cup)is set
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Cincinnati got their MLS promotion.Garber said, “We don’t have the level of corporate support in the community that that team needs to be successful, and the level of support here in Cincinnati almost rivals other MLS small-to-mid-market clubs and totally outranks what has been committed to in Columbus.”
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| # | Club | PTS | PPG (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=ppg) | GP (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gp) | W (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=w) | L (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=l) | T (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=t) | GF (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gf) | GA (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=ga) | GD (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gd) | W-L-T | W-L-T | |||
| 1 | Atlanta United FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/atlanta) | 26 | 2 | 13 | 8 | 3 | 2 | 27 | 17 | 10 | 4-2-1 | 4-1-1 | |||
| 2 | Columbus Crew SC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/columbus) | 25 | 1.79 | 14 | 7 | 3 | 4 | 18 | 10 | 8 | 5-1-1 | 2-2-3 | |||
| 3 | New York City FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/nycfc) | 24 | 1.85 | 13 | 7 | 3 | 3 | 26 | 19 | 7 | 5-0-0 | 2-3-3 | |||
| 4 | New York Red Bulls (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/ny-red-bulls) | 22 | 2 | 11 | 7 | 3 | 1 | 26 | 12 | 14 | 4-1-1 | 3-2-0 | |||
| 5 | Orlando City SC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/orlando) | 19 | 1.58 | 12 | 6 | 5 | 1 | 22 | 20 | 2 | 4-3-1 | 2-2-0 | |||
| 6 | New England Revolution (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/new-england) | 19 | 1.46 | 13 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 22 | 19 | 3 | 4-2-2 | 1-2-2 | |||
| 7 | Philadelphia Union (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/philadelphia) | 18 | 1.38 | 13 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 15 | 16 | -1 | 4-1-2 | 1-4-1 | |||
| 8 | Chicago Fire (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/chicago) | 14 | 1.08 | 13 | 4 | 7 | 2 | 18 | 24 | -6 | 2-4-1 | 2-3-1 | |||
| 9 | Toronto FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/toronto-fc) | 10 | 0.91 | 11 | 3 | 7 | 1 | 14 | 20 | -6 | 3-3-1 | 0-4-0 | |||
| 10 | Montreal Impact (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/montreal) | 9 | 0.69 | 13 | 3 | 10 | 0 | 14 | 29 | -15 | 2-3-0 | 1-7-0 | |||
| 11 | D.C. United (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/d.c.-united) | 9 | 0.9 | 10 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 14 | 18 | -4 | 1-0-1 | 1-5-2 |
| # | Club | PTS | PPG (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=ppg) | GP (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gp) | W (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=w) | L (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=l) | T (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=t) | GF (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gf) | GA (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=ga) | GD (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gd) | W-L-T | W-L-T | |||
| 1 | Sporting Kansas City (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/sporting-kc) | 25 | 1.92 | 13 | 7 | 2 | 4 | 24 | 13 | 11 | 4-1-2 | 3-1-2 | |||
| 2 | FC Dallas (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/fc-dallas) | 23 | 1.92 | 12 | 6 | 1 | 5 | 20 | 13 | 7 | 3-0-4 | 3-1-1 | |||
| 3 | Los Angeles Football Club (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/lafc) | 21 | 1.75 | 12 | 6 | 3 | 3 | 24 | 19 | 5 | 2-0-3 | 4-3-0 | |||
| 4 | Portland Timbers (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/portland) | 20 | 1.82 | 11 | 6 | 3 | 2 | 19 | 17 | 2 | 4-0-0 | 2-3-2 | |||
| 5 | Real Salt Lake (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/real-salt-lake) | 19 | 1.46 | 13 | 6 | 6 | 1 | 17 | 26 | -9 | 5-1-0 | 1-5-1 | |||
| 6 | Houston Dynamo (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/houston) | 18 | 1.5 | 12 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 27 | 20 | 7 | 4-2-0 | 1-2-3 | |||
| 7 | Vancouver Whitecaps FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/vancouver) | 17 | 1.21 | 14 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 19 | 27 | -8 | 2-1-4 | 2-4-1 | |||
| 8 | LA Galaxy (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/la-galaxy) | 16 | 1.23 | 13 | 5 | 7 | 1 | 18 | 22 | -4 | 3-4-0 | 2-3-1 | |||
| 9 | Minnesota United FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/minnesota) | 16 | 1.23 | 13 | 5 | 7 | 1 | 16 | 22 | -6 | 4-2-1 | 1-5-0 | |||
| 10 | San Jose Earthquakes (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/san-jose) | 9 | 0.75 | 12 | 2 | 7 | 3 | 18 | 23 | -5 | 1-3-1 | 1-4-2 | |||
| 11 | Seattle Sounders FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/seattle) | 8 | 0.8 | 10 | 2 | 6 | 2 | 7 | 12 | -5 | 1-3-1 | 1-3-1 | |||
| 12 | Colorado Rapids (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/colorado) | 8 | 0.73 | 11 | 2 | 7 | 2 | 13 | 20 | -7 | 2-3-1 | 0-4-1 |
OT...but do we have any futbal-tactics gurus in here?wiki does a decent job of basic descriptions. read both the fullback and wingback sections. it's a fairly demanding position with both offensive and defensive responsibilities, especially if it's an aggressive version, makes me think they'll be wanting her involved in the attack q good bit.
My daughter is going to be playing left defender (fullback? Whatever) in a 3-3-4 alignment this fall, in her first year of 11v11...supposedly an aggressive version, if that matters. If anybody can describe the responsibilities of that position, I'd be interested to hear it.
Heading into June...Columbus ranked 2nd looks nice, but since we played so many cold March games, everyone else has 2 games to catch up. The points per game looks like a better ranking and has the Crew listed in 4th.
The Crew win the final installment of the Trillium Cup, by virtue of a road win and a home draw vs Toronto.Go Crew. 12k showed up today.
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US Open CupLouisville got the first USL over MLS Cupset, knocking off the New England Revolution.
The Bracket (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_U.S._Open_Cup)is set
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I'm bummed. I was hoping that the Crew would have one more crack at FC Cincinnati after last year's Cupset. But alas. They'd both have to win their round 4 game in order to lock horns with each other......and they both lost.
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Oh yeah, those games are all on June 6th.Blainville beat Oakville 2-1 in the first leg in Quebec. The second leg will be in Ontario June 13th.
Also on June 6th the Canadian Championship gets underway.
the top semi-pro team from each Ontario and Quebec will play a round.
So the June 6th game is Oakville(ONT) vs Blainville(QUE), with a second leg on June 13th.
Essentially a play-in round for the play-in round.
Bracket (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Canadian_Championship)
Blainville beat Oakville 2-1 in the first leg in Quebec. The second leg will be in Ontario June 13th.And 1-0 in the second leg.
Without a rooting interest, I'm struggling to get any more into this than say, Champions League. Can enjoy some pretty good soccer, but honestly if it wasn't running unopposed while I had my coffee in the morning I probably wouldn't have watched any of it yet. And I'm the guy who is watching Qualifying and Gold Cups when the US is playing.Yah, I haven't seen any world cup.
Wow that Spain-Portugal match was just incredible. I'm not a huge Ronaldo fan, but I'm also not a hater, and that was a masterful performance.that last goal for his hat trick was something special...
So far pretty fun for me actually. Brazil looked amazing for 20 minutes but then looked disorganized. No one has looked particularly great. Might make for some drama.ISL continues to play better than their parts. They won't win it all, but I certainly could see them being disruptive. The best teams so far, imo, seem to be Spain and Portugal. But we will see. It is early.
Another fun day with Senegal and Japan earning upset victoriesThose 3rd minute red cards will bite you every time
Yah, I haven't seen any world cup.
Without a rooting interest, I'm struggling to get any more into this than say, Champions League. Can enjoy some pretty good soccer, but honestly if it wasn't running unopposed while I had my coffee in the morning I probably wouldn't have watched any of it yet. And I'm the guy who is watching Qualifying and Gold Cups when the US is playing.I love international soccer, even when the US isn't playing. There are plenty of national teams I enjoy watching that aren't my own-- and a few that I love to root against, as well. ;)
I love international soccer, even when the US isn't playing. There are plenty of national teams I enjoy watching that aren't my own-- and a few that I love to root against, as well. ;)Yeah, I want to, I just have a hard time getting into events if I don't have a rooting interest. I enjoy morning sports. Euro soccer, Olympics, Open Championship, etc... So when it's on, I'll watch it. It's good soccer, and enjoyable, but I miss being invested. I'm not "anti" anyone enough to find a rooting interest in that direction.
Yeah, I want to, I just have a hard time getting into events if I don't have a rooting interest. I enjoy morning sports. Euro soccer, Olympics, Open Championship, etc... So when it's on, I'll watch it. It's good soccer, and enjoyable, but I miss being invested. I'm not "anti" anyone enough to find a rooting interest in that direction.have to agree with utee, even without the usmnt in this world cup, it's been fantastic so far.
The show Cristiano Renaldo is continuing to put on is truly a spectacle though.
have to agree with utee, even without the usmnt in this world cup, it's been fantastic so far.Yeah, how fantastic it is I never disagreed with. I'm just saying when I don't have a dog in the fight, it puts a cap on my overall interest. It's not speaking to how good or bad the tournament is.
helps that i have some close friends from colombia so i've kinda adopted them as my team of choice for this cup. though after yesterday, they might want me to lose interest.
Yeah, how fantastic it is I never disagreed with. I'm just saying when I don't have a dog in the fight, it puts a cap on my overall interest. It's not speaking to how good or bad the tournament is.I feel similarly about OTHER sports-- for example, now that Texas has been knocked out of the CWS, I have less interest in it. I still really enjoy college baseball and will watch whatever games are convenient, but without Texas remaining, I'm not nearly as interested as I was 3 days ago.
Yeah, how fantastic it is I never disagreed with. I'm just saying when I don't have a dog in the fight, it puts a cap on my overall interest. It's not speaking to how good or bad the tournament is.i meant fantastic from a viewable experience. but i will agree it would be better with a serious rooting interest involved.
I feel similarly about OTHER sports-- for example, now that Texas has been knocked out of the CWS, I have less interest in it. I still really enjoy college baseball and will watch whatever games are convenient, but without Texas remaining, I'm not nearly as interested as I was 3 days ago.maybe if you didn't picked a blue blood from each sport to follow you'd have a more fulfilling experience with all others as well. :)
But for me, soccer is somehow different. I think it's because the USA isn't a power or even all that great traditionally, so the vast majority of games I've watched, have not revolved around the USMNT. I'm always happy when we're in there, but I don't ever expect us to contend, so it doesn't interfere with my interest or enjoyment of the rest of the event.
Yeah, how fantastic it is I never disagreed with. I'm just saying when I don't have a dog in the fight, it puts a cap on my overall interest. It's not speaking to how good or bad the tournament is.Weren't you the one that was busting my chops for liking the MLS, because it wasn't the top league in the world?
Weren't you the one that was busting my chops for liking the MLS, because it wasn't the top league in the world?Huh? I'm not saying I don't care about the World Cup because I have Pittsburgh Riverhounds games to go to. I'm failing to see any inconsistency. The World Cup, and Gold Cup/Confederations Cup, are my jam, but my interest has waned without a rooting interest this year. And hell, I've still followed and watched SOME, which is more than I can say about any local soccer. So I think that's pretty in line with my point, that even at a reduced interest level, my interest in world class soccer is still vastly greater than any sort of local rooting interest.
So now you've gone from only wanting to see the "best players in the world" to needing some sort of natural, geography-based rooting interest?
Make up your mind, homey.
Oof the Argentina goalieHe's lucky he's not Colombia's goalkeeper...
And FTR, I wasn't giving you grief. You basically said if the Crew moved, you were done with soccer, and I simply said that I had never heard anyone's interest in soccer be solely dependent on the existence of a lower level club in their general vicinity.MLS is the highest level soccer nationally available. If the Crew leave, my interests in soccer will also drop to practically zero.
I have surprisingly found myself rooting for Mexico to make a run in this thingFans of El Tri are the worst. I love Mexico, but I loathe Mexico's national soccer team.
Fans of El Tri are the worst. I love Mexico, but I loathe Mexico's national soccer team.I'm not a big fan of the way a good deal of CONCACAF teams play or their fans act, to be honest. And I've never cheered on Mexico before, didn't plan on doing so this year, but I've enjoyed watching them play, and wouldn't mind more of it.
Argentina somehow throughthat arg/nig match was crazy. i'm a messi fanboy so glad they snuck in, but they better figure it out quick or it won't last long.
Argentine-France and Spain-Russia already set as a pair of really good knockout games. Denmark-Croatia and Portugal-Uruguay as the other two. Bracket half filled
....and another 1-0 victory for the Fury in the second leg.
The Ottawa Fury won the first leg of the Canadian Championship play-in round, but only 1-0. Leg 2 is Wed June 27th.
Yeah, I've really been looking forward to Belgium-England, but I'm not sure how much drama there will be. It could be, who takes the harder dive? :)And just wait til 2026 when they really screw the whole thing up with the 3 team groups.
What is the official why behind the change?Same reason behind the format change to every sport ever, money. More money to be made on 48 teams vs. 32. But I think it destroys the qualifying rounds, and makes the group play part wonky, and ultimately not that interesting. So many of those groups you are going to know in advance which 2 will get out.
They have to pick something - after that it's coin flipping time.tbh, i think i'd rather a coin flip than the subjective whim of the refs. some of these refs won't pull a card for blood, other will kick the grass out of the match for tripping if they could.
England v. Belgium is interesting. Would you rather play Japan in the first round but likely face Brazil in the second? Or face Colombia in the first round but then get either Sweden or Switzerland in the second?
That might be the reason.. I was just wondering if there was an official statement I missed.the 'official' reason given:
Initially when I heard this I assumed they'd keep the 8 groupings, but expand to 6 teams. Even if they only moved on 2 from each, they'd have more games and more inventory to sell. If they moved on 3, that would expand it even more....
| # | Club | PTS (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/mls) | PPG | GP (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/mls?sort=gp) | W (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/mls?sort=w) | L (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/mls?sort=l) | T (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/mls?sort=t) | GF (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/mls?sort=gf) | GA (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/mls?sort=ga) | GD (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/mls?sort=gd) | W-L-T | W-L-T | |||
| 1 | Atlanta United FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/atlanta) | 37 | 2.06 | 18 | 11 | 3 | 4 | 38 | 20 | 18 | 6-2-2 | 5-1-2 | |||
| 4 | New York Red Bulls (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/ny-red-bulls) | 29 | 1.93 | 15 | 9 | 4 | 2 | 33 | 16 | 17 | 6-1-1 | 3-3-1 | |||
| 2 | New York City FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/nycfc) | 31 | 1.82 | 17 | 9 | 4 | 4 | 34 | 24 | 10 | 7-0-1 | 2-4-3 | |||
| 5 | New England Revolution (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/new-england) | 27 | 1.59 | 17 | 7 | 4 | 6 | 30 | 25 | 5 | 6-2-2 | 1-2-4 | |||
| 3 | Columbus Crew SC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/columbus) | 30 | 1.58 | 19 | 8 | 5 | 6 | 24 | 19 | 5 | 6-2-3 | 2-3-3 | |||
| 6 | Chicago Fire (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/chicago) | 23 | 1.28 | 18 | 6 | 7 | 5 | 27 | 31 | -4 | 4-4-2 | 2-3-3 | |||
| 8 | Philadelphia Union (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/philadelphia) | 21 | 1.24 | 17 | 6 | 8 | 3 | 21 | 25 | -4 | 5-2-2 | 1-6-1 | |||
| 7 | Montreal Impact (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/montreal) | 21 | 1.17 | 18 | 7 | 11 | 0 | 22 | 31 | -9 | 5-3-0 | 2-8-0 | |||
| 9 | Orlando City SC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/orlando) | 19 | 1.12 | 17 | 6 | 10 | 1 | 24 | 37 | -13 | 4-4-1 | 2-6-0 | |||
| 10 | Toronto FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/toronto-fc) | 15 | 1 | 15 | 4 | 8 | 3 | 24 | 29 | -5 | 3-3-2 | 1-5-1 | |||
| 11 | D.C. United (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/d.c.-united) | 10 | 0.77 | 13 | 2 | 7 | 4 | 21 | 27 | -6 | 1-0-1 | 1-7-3 |
| # | Club | PTS (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/mls) | PPG | GP (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/mls?sort=gp) | W (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/mls?sort=w) | L (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/mls?sort=l) | T (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/mls?sort=t) | GF (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/mls?sort=gf) | GA (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/mls?sort=ga) | GD (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings/mls?sort=gd) | W-L-T | W-L-T | |||
| 2 | FC Dallas (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/fc-dallas) | 32 | 2 | 16 | 9 | 2 | 5 | 25 | 17 | 8 | 5-0-4 | 4-2-1 | |||
| 1 | Sporting Kansas City (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/sporting-kc) | 32 | 1.88 | 17 | 9 | 3 | 5 | 31 | 18 | 13 | 6-1-2 | 3-2-3 | |||
| 3 | Los Angeles Football Club (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/lafc) | 30 | 1.88 | 16 | 9 | 4 | 3 | 35 | 25 | 10 | 4-0-3 | 5-4-0 | |||
| 4 | Portland Timbers (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/portland) | 26 | 1.73 | 15 | 7 | 3 | 5 | 24 | 21 | 3 | 4-0-2 | 3-3-3 | |||
| 7 | Houston Dynamo (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/houston) | 21 | 1.4 | 15 | 6 | 6 | 3 | 31 | 24 | 7 | 5-2-0 | 1-4-3 | |||
| 5 | Real Salt Lake (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/real-salt-lake) | 23 | 1.35 | 17 | 7 | 8 | 2 | 21 | 32 | -11 | 6-1-1 | 1-7-1 | |||
| 6 | Vancouver Whitecaps FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/vancouver) | 23 | 1.35 | 17 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 26 | 34 | -8 | 3-1-4 | 3-5-1 | |||
| 8 | LA Galaxy (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/la-galaxy) | 21 | 1.31 | 16 | 6 | 7 | 3 | 25 | 26 | -1 | 4-4-0 | 2-3-3 | |||
| 9 | Minnesota United FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/minnesota) | 16 | 1 | 16 | 5 | 10 | 1 | 19 | 30 | -11 | 4-3-1 | 1-7-0 | |||
| 10 | Seattle Sounders FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/seattle) | 12 | 0.8 | 15 | 3 | 9 | 3 | 13 | 21 | -8 | 2-4-2 | 1-5-1 | |||
| 11 | Colorado Rapids (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/colorado) | 12 | 0.8 | 15 | 3 | 9 | 3 | 19 | 28 | -9 | 3-4-2 | 0-5-1 | |||
| 12 | San Jose Earthquakes (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/san-jose) | 12 | 0.71 | 17 | 2 | 9 | 6 | 28 | 35 | -7 | 1-4-3 | 1-5-3 |
Welp, I thought Belgium looked the best going into the knockout round, but looks like the concerns about just how bad the bottom half of their group was, combined with finishing with a meaningless game against England were valid.Well, look who woke up
Wow, Columbia with the extra time equalizer, then seemingly had it won in PKs then dinged one of the crossbar, and had one stopped to seize defeat from the jaws of victory.watched this game with some friends from colombia, place went crazy at the equalizer, then heartbreak on the 2 missed penalties.
I'm really hoping for Belgium-France and Croatia-England in the semis. That would be a fantastic set of matches.
it was a great match.Yeah I said that early, with my only hesitation being just how bad the group they had to get through was. They've proven their merit though. In one game anything can happen, but I wouldn't pick the Belgium-France winner to lose any osrt of best-of or aggregate match against the England-Croatia winner.
I'm looking forward to the semi-finals. All 4 teams have been playing well. I think Croatia will slow down England and disrupt what they want to do with the ball. I've been impressed with Belgium all tourney so I'm going to stick with them winning it all
In one game anything can happen, but I wouldn't pick the Belgium-France winner to lose any osrt of best-of or aggregate match against the England-Croatia winner.Agreed.
I'm really hoping for Belgium-France and Croatia-England in the semis. That would be a fantastic set of matches.Sweet. My wish came true.
Sweet. My wish came true.You say, as if you picked the semifinals before the cup even started.
While I'm at it, I'm really hoping for the Texas Longhorns to win the national championship in NCAA football in 2018/9. :)
I thought Belgium would win it all earlier in the tourney. France has been excellent. IMO, France/Belgium were the two best teams this past 2 weeks.i picked france to win it all (had them beating germany, lol). but for some reason i found myself rooting for belgium.
.As these games are about to get underway, none of the Eastern Conference teams currently hold a playoff spot in the MLS standings. You have to be in the top six, and Philly, Chicago and Orlando are 7, 8 and 9 respectively. So USL Louisville might be able to make a run in this thing.
The US Open Cup Quarterfinals are set.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgUEieEUwAAhwBz.jpg)
So Louisville is the lone USL team that will be barkin' with the big dawgs. They play the Chicago Fire. The Quarterfinal round is July 18th.
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Toronto finishes off The Ottawa Fury.
In the first leg of the Canadian Championship semifinals The Montreal Impact beat Vancouver 1-0 at home. Toronto beat the Ottawa Fury 1-0 on the road. The second leg is July 25th. So the Ottawa Fury is the last USL team standing.
| # | Club | PTS | PPG (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings%20?sort=ppg) | GP (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings%20?sort=gp) | W (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings%20?sort=w) | L (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings%20?sort=l) | T (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings%20?sort=t) | GF (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings%20?sort=gf) | GA (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings%20?sort=ga) | GD (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings%20?sort=gd) | W-L-T | W-L-T | |||
| 1 | Atlanta United FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/atlanta) | 47 | 2.04 | 23 | 14 | 4 | 5 | 48 | 26 | 22 | 7-2-3 | 7-2-2 | |||
| 2 | New York City FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/nycfc) | 43 | 1.95 | 22 | 13 | 5 | 4 | 43 | 27 | 16 | 10-0-1 | 3-5-3 | |||
| 3 | New York Red Bulls (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/ny-red-bulls) | 41 | 1.95 | 21 | 13 | 6 | 2 | 42 | 22 | 20 | 8-2-1 | 5-4-1 | |||
| 4 | Columbus Crew SC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/columbus) | 36 | 1.57 | 23 | 10 | 7 | 6 | 30 | 29 | 1 | 7-2-3 | 3-5-3 | |||
| 5 | Montreal Impact (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/montreal) | 28 | 1.22 | 23 | 9 | 13 | 1 | 29 | 39 | -10 | 7-4-0 | 2-9-1 | |||
| 6 | New England Revolution (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/new-england) | 28 | 1.33 | 21 | 7 | 7 | 7 | 33 | 32 | 1 | 6-3-3 | 1-4-4 | |||
| 7 | Philadelphia Union (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/philadelphia) | 27 | 1.29 | 21 | 8 | 10 | 3 | 29 | 34 | -5 | 5-4-2 | 3-6-1 | |||
| 8 | Chicago Fire (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/chicago) | 23 | 1 | 23 | 6 | 12 | 5 | 34 | 46 | -12 | 4-6-2 | 2-6-3 | |||
| 9 | Orlando City SC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/orlando) | 22 | 1 | 22 | 7 | 14 | 1 | 32 | 51 | -19 | 5-5-1 | 2-9-0 | |||
| 10 | Toronto FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/toronto-fc) | 22 | 1.05 | 21 | 6 | 11 | 4 | 35 | 39 | -4 | 4-4-2 | 2-7-2 | |||
| 11 | D.C. United (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/d.c.-united) | 17 | 0.94 | 18 | 4 | 9 | 5 | 29 | 35 | -6 | 3-1-1 | 1-8-4 |
| # | Club | PTS | PPG (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings%20?sort=ppg) | GP (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings%20?sort=gp) | W (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings%20?sort=w) | L (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings%20?sort=l) | T (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings%20?sort=t) | GF (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings%20?sort=gf) | GA (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings%20?sort=ga) | GD (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings%20?sort=gd) | W-L-T | W-L-T | |||
| 1 | FC Dallas (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/fc-dallas) | 42 | 2 | 21 | 12 | 3 | 6 | 35 | 25 | 10 | 7-0-4 | 5-3-2 | |||
| 2 | Los Angeles Football Club (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/lafc) | 36 | 1.71 | 21 | 10 | 5 | 6 | 44 | 35 | 9 | 5-0-5 | 5-5-1 | |||
| 3 | LA Galaxy (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/la-galaxy) | 35 | 1.59 | 22 | 10 | 7 | 5 | 43 | 36 | 7 | 6-4-1 | 4-3-4 | |||
| 4 | Portland Timbers (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/portland) | 34 | 1.79 | 19 | 9 | 3 | 7 | 30 | 25 | 5 | 6-0-3 | 3-3-4 | |||
| 5 | Sporting Kansas City (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/sporting-kc) | 33 | 1.57 | 21 | 9 | 6 | 6 | 39 | 30 | 9 | 6-2-3 | 3-4-3 | |||
| 6 | Real Salt Lake (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/real-salt-lake) | 31 | 1.41 | 22 | 9 | 9 | 4 | 31 | 39 | -8 | 8-1-2 | 1-8-2 | |||
| 7 | Vancouver Whitecaps FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/vancouver) | 29 | 1.32 | 22 | 8 | 9 | 5 | 34 | 44 | -10 | 5-2-4 | 3-7-1 | |||
| 8 | Minnesota United FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/minnesota) | 28 | 1.27 | 22 | 9 | 12 | 1 | 35 | 44 | -9 | 8-3-1 | 1-9-0 | |||
| 9 | Houston Dynamo (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/houston) | 27 | 1.29 | 21 | 7 | 8 | 6 | 39 | 32 | 7 | 6-3-2 | 1-5-4 | |||
| 10 | Seattle Sounders FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/seattle) | 26 | 1.24 | 21 | 7 | 9 | 5 | 22 | 24 | -2 | 4-4-2 | 3-5-3 | |||
| 11 | Colorado Rapids (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/colorado) | 17 | 0.81 | 21 | 4 | 12 | 5 | 25 | 36 | -11 | 3-5-3 | 1-7-2 | |||
| 12 | San Jose Earthquakes (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/san-jose) | 13 | 0.62 | 21 | 2 | 12 | 7 | 29 | 40 | -11 | 1-5-4 | 1-7-3 |
| # | Club | PTS (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings) | PPG | GP (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gp) | W (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=w) | L (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=l) | T (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=t) | GF (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gf) | GA (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=ga) | GD (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gd) | W-L-T | W-L-T | |||
| 2 | Atlanta United FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/atlanta) | 54 | 2.08 | 26 | 16 | 4 | 6 | 55 | 30 | 25 | 8-2-4 | 8-2-2 | |||
| 1 | New York Red Bulls (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/ny-red-bulls) | 55 | 2.04 | 27 | 17 | 6 | 4 | 50 | 26 | 24 | 11-2-1 | 6-4-3 | |||
| 3 | New York City FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/nycfc) | 48 | 1.85 | 26 | 14 | 6 | 6 | 49 | 34 | 15 | 10-0-3 | 4-6-3 | |||
| 4 | Columbus Crew SC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/columbus) | 40 | 1.54 | 26 | 11 | 8 | 7 | 33 | 33 | 0 | 8-2-3 | 3-6-4 | |||
| 5 | Philadelphia Union (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/philadelphia) | 39 | 1.5 | 26 | 12 | 11 | 3 | 37 | 39 | -2 | 7-4-2 | 5-7-1 | |||
| 6 | Montreal Impact (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/montreal) | 33 | 1.22 | 27 | 10 | 14 | 3 | 34 | 45 | -11 | 8-4-1 | 2-10-2 | |||
| 7 | New England Revolution (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/new-england) | 29 | 1.16 | 25 | 7 | 10 | 8 | 38 | 41 | -3 | 6-4-3 | 1-6-5 | |||
| 8 | D.C. United (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/d.c.-united) | 27 | 1.13 | 24 | 7 | 11 | 6 | 39 | 42 | -3 | 6-2-1 | 1-9-5 | |||
| 9 | Toronto FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/toronto-fc) | 27 | 1.04 | 26 | 7 | 13 | 6 | 43 | 48 | -5 | 5-5-2 | 2-8-4 | |||
| 11 | Orlando City SC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/orlando) | 23 | 0.92 | 25 | 7 | 16 | 2 | 38 | 59 | -21 | 5-6-2 | 2-10-0 | |||
| 10 | Chicago Fire (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/chicago) | 24 | 0.89 | 27 | 6 | 15 | 6 | 37 | 52 | -15 | 4-7-3 | 2-8-3 |
| # | Club | PTS (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings) | PPG | GP (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gp) | W (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=w) | L (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=l) | T (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=t) | GF (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gf) | GA (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=ga) | GD (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gd) | W-L-T | W-L-T | |||
| 2 | Sporting Kansas City (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/sporting-kc) | 45 | 1.8 | 25 | 13 | 6 | 6 | 47 | 30 | 17 | 8-2-3 | 5-4-3 | |||
| 1 | FC Dallas (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/fc-dallas) | 46 | 1.77 | 26 | 13 | 6 | 7 | 43 | 35 | 8 | 8-1-4 | 5-5-3 | |||
| 3 | Los Angeles Football Club (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/lafc) | 43 | 1.65 | 26 | 12 | 7 | 7 | 50 | 40 | 10 | 7-1-5 | 5-6-2 | |||
| 5 | Portland Timbers (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/portland) | 40 | 1.6 | 25 | 11 | 7 | 7 | 37 | 35 | 2 | 8-2-3 | 3-5-4 | |||
| 6 | Seattle Sounders FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/seattle) | 38 | 1.52 | 25 | 11 | 9 | 5 | 32 | 26 | 6 | 6-4-2 | 5-5-3 | |||
| 4 | Real Salt Lake (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/real-salt-lake) | 41 | 1.52 | 27 | 12 | 10 | 5 | 42 | 44 | -2 | 9-1-3 | 3-9-2 | |||
| 8 | Vancouver Whitecaps FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/vancouver) | 37 | 1.42 | 26 | 10 | 9 | 7 | 43 | 51 | -8 | 5-2-5 | 5-7-2 | |||
| 7 | LA Galaxy (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/la-galaxy) | 38 | 1.41 | 27 | 10 | 9 | 8 | 49 | 48 | 1 | 6-4-4 | 4-5-4 | |||
| 9 | Minnesota United FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/minnesota) | 29 | 1.12 | 26 | 9 | 15 | 2 | 38 | 52 | -14 | 8-4-1 | 1-11-1 | |||
| 10 | Houston Dynamo (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/houston) | 28 | 1.08 | 26 | 7 | 12 | 7 | 41 | 38 | 3 | 6-5-3 | 1-7-4 | |||
| 11 | Colorado Rapids (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/colorado) | 24 | 0.92 | 26 | 6 | 14 | 6 | 31 | 48 | -17 | 5-6-3 | 1-8-3 | |||
| 12 | San Jose Earthquakes (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/san-jose) | 20 | 0.77 | 26 | 4 | 14 | 8 | 40 | 50 | -10 | 2-6-5 | 2-8-3 |
Thoughts on the Premier League start?Couldn’t be happier with my spurs right now. Starting slow has been a killer last couple years. This year on fire so far. Outside of Liverpool the next 6 epl matches spurs should be able to rack up some points.
Aresenal's worst in 25+ years (as long as the league as presently constituted has existed), but also haven't very often started with two of the perennial powers in a row--they were plenty competitive last weekend.
So who among the usual suspects will challenge City for this year's title?
| # | Club | PTS (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings) | PPG | GP (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gp) | W (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=w) | L (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=l) | T (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=t) | GF (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gf) | GA (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=ga) | GD (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gd) | W-L-T | W-L-T | |||
| 1 | x - Atlanta United FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/atlanta) | 63 | 2.03 | 31 | 19 | 6 | 6 | 65 | 38 | 27 | 9-2-4 | 10-4-2 | |||
| 2 | x - New York Red Bulls (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/ny-red-bulls) | 62 | 2 | 31 | 19 | 7 | 5 | 57 | 32 | 25 | 13-2-1 | 6-5-4 | |||
| 3 | x - New York City FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/nycfc) | 53 | 1.66 | 32 | 15 | 9 | 8 | 55 | 41 | 14 | 11-1-4 | 4-8-4 | |||
| 4 | Columbus Crew SC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/columbus) | 48 | 1.55 | 31 | 13 | 9 | 9 | 39 | 38 | 1 | 10-2-4 | 3-7-5 | |||
| 5 | Philadelphia Union (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/philadelphia) | 47 | 1.52 | 31 | 14 | 12 | 5 | 43 | 45 | -2 | 8-5-2 | 6-7-3 | |||
| 7 | D.C. United (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/d.c.-united) | 38 | 1.31 | 29 | 10 | 11 | 8 | 53 | 48 | 5 | 9-2-2 | 1-9-6 | |||
| 6 | Montreal Impact (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/montreal) | 40 | 1.29 | 31 | 12 | 15 | 4 | 42 | 52 | -10 | 9-4-2 | 3-11-2 | |||
| 8 | New England Revolution (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/new-england) | 35 | 1.17 | 30 | 8 | 11 | 11 | 44 | 49 | -5 | 6-4-5 | 2-7-6 | |||
| 9 | Toronto FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/toronto-fc) | 33 | 1.1 | 30 | 9 | 15 | 6 | 54 | 58 | -4 | 7-6-2 | 2-9-4 | |||
| 10 | e - Chicago Fire (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/chicago) | 31 | 1 | 31 | 8 | 16 | 7 | 46 | 57 | -11 | 6-7-3 | 2-9-4 | |||
| 11 | Orlando City SC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/orlando) | 25 | 0.86 | 29 | 7 | 18 | 4 | 40 | 66 | -26 | 5-6-4 | 2-12-0 |
| # | Club | PTS (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings) | PPG | GP (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gp) | W (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=w) | L (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=l) | T (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=t) | GF (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gf) | GA (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=ga) | GD (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gd) | W-L-T | W-L-T | |||
| 1 | x - FC Dallas (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/fc-dallas) | 54 | 1.8 | 30 | 15 | 6 | 9 | 49 | 38 | 11 | 9-1-5 | 6-5-4 | |||
| 2 | Sporting Kansas City (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/sporting-kc) | 52 | 1.73 | 30 | 15 | 8 | 7 | 55 | 37 | 18 | 9-2-4 | 6-6-3 | |||
| 3 | Los Angeles Football Club (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/lafc) | 50 | 1.67 | 30 | 14 | 8 | 8 | 58 | 46 | 12 | 8-1-6 | 6-7-2 | |||
| 5 | Seattle Sounders FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/seattle) | 47 | 1.57 | 30 | 14 | 11 | 5 | 41 | 32 | 9 | 8-5-2 | 6-6-3 | |||
| 4 | Portland Timbers (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/portland) | 48 | 1.55 | 31 | 13 | 9 | 9 | 46 | 45 | 1 | 10-2-4 | 3-7-5 | |||
| 6 | Real Salt Lake (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/real-salt-lake) | 46 | 1.48 | 31 | 13 | 11 | 7 | 50 | 50 | 0 | 10-1-4 | 3-10-3 | |||
| 7 | LA Galaxy (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/la-galaxy) | 44 | 1.42 | 31 | 12 | 11 | 8 | 60 | 59 | 1 | 8-4-4 | 4-7-4 | |||
| 8 | Vancouver Whitecaps FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/vancouver) | 40 | 1.33 | 30 | 11 | 12 | 7 | 47 | 59 | -12 | 6-4-5 | 5-8-2 | |||
| 9 | Minnesota United FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/minnesota) | 36 | 1.2 | 30 | 11 | 16 | 3 | 45 | 58 | -13 | 10-4-1 | 1-12-2 | |||
| 10 | Houston Dynamo (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/houston) | 35 | 1.17 | 30 | 9 | 13 | 8 | 50 | 45 | 5 | 8-5-3 | 1-8-5 | |||
| 11 | e - Colorado Rapids (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/colorado) | 24 | 0.8 | 30 | 6 | 18 | 6 | 32 | 59 | -27 | 5-7-3 | 1-11-3 | |||
| 12 | e - San Jose Earthquakes (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/san-jose) | 20 | 0.65 | 31 | 4 | 19 | 8 | 47 | 66 | -19 | 2-8-5 | 2-11-3 |
Next y'all will be watching Lacrosse. Or Labatt's. Or whatever.Really watch something 'Murican - like the W.S.O.P. or the Iditarod when the time comes.Lacrosse is fine Jim Brown and the original Americans played that
| # | Club | PTS | PPG (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=ppg) | GP (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gp) | W (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=w) | L (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=l) | T (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=t) | GF (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gf) | GA (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=ga) | GD (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gd) | W-L-T | W-L-T | |||
| 1 | x - Atlanta United FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/atlanta) | 69 | 2.09 | 33 | 21 | 6 | 6 | 69 | 40 | 29 | 11-2-4 | 10-4-2 | |||
| 2 | x - New York Red Bulls (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/ny-red-bulls) | 68 | 2.06 | 33 | 21 | 7 | 5 | 61 | 33 | 28 | 13-2-1 | 8-5-4 | |||
| 3 | x - New York City FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/nycfc) | 53 | 1.61 | 33 | 15 | 10 | 8 | 56 | 44 | 12 | 11-1-4 | 4-9-4 | |||
| 4 | x - Philadelphia Union (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/philadelphia) | 50 | 1.52 | 33 | 15 | 13 | 5 | 48 | 47 | 1 | 9-6-2 | 6-7-3 | |||
| 5 | x - D.C. United (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/d.c.-united) | 50 | 1.52 | 33 | 14 | 11 | 8 | 60 | 50 | 10 | 13-2-2 | 1-9-6 | |||
| 6 | Columbus Crew SC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/columbus) | 48 | 1.45 | 33 | 13 | 11 | 9 | 40 | 43 | -3 | 10-2-4 | 3-9-5 | |||
| 7 | Montreal Impact (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/montreal) | 46 | 1.39 | 33 | 14 | 15 | 4 | 47 | 52 | -5 | 11-4-2 | 3-11-2 | |||
| 8 | e - New England Revolution (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/new-england) | 38 | 1.15 | 33 | 9 | 13 | 11 | 48 | 55 | -7 | 7-4-5 | 2-9-6 | |||
| 9 | e - Toronto FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/toronto-fc) | 33 | 1 | 33 | 9 | 18 | 6 | 55 | 63 | -8 | 7-7-2 | 2-11-4 | |||
| 10 | e - Chicago Fire (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/chicago) | 31 | 0.94 | 33 | 8 | 18 | 7 | 48 | 61 | -13 | 6-7-3 | 2-11-4 | |||
| 11 | e - Orlando City SC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/orlando) | 28 | 0.85 | 33 | 8 | 21 | 4 | 43 | 73 | -30 | 6-7-4 | 2-14-0 |
| # | Club | PTS | PPG (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=ppg) | GP (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gp) | W (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=w) | L (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=l) | T (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=t) | GF (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gf) | GA (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=ga) | GD (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gd) | W-L-T | W-L-T | |||
| 1 | x - Sporting Kansas City (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/sporting-kc) | 59 | 1.79 | 33 | 17 | 8 | 8 | 63 | 39 | 24 | 9-2-5 | 8-6-3 | |||
| 2 | x - Los Angeles Football Club (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/lafc) | 57 | 1.73 | 33 | 16 | 8 | 9 | 67 | 50 | 17 | 9-1-7 | 7-7-2 | |||
| 3 | x - FC Dallas (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/fc-dallas) | 57 | 1.73 | 33 | 16 | 8 | 9 | 51 | 42 | 9 | 10-2-5 | 6-6-4 | |||
| 4 | x - Seattle Sounders FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/seattle) | 56 | 1.7 | 33 | 17 | 11 | 5 | 50 | 36 | 14 | 9-5-2 | 8-6-3 | |||
| 5 | x - Portland Timbers (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/portland) | 54 | 1.64 | 33 | 15 | 9 | 9 | 53 | 46 | 7 | 11-2-4 | 4-7-5 | |||
| 6 | Real Salt Lake (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/real-salt-lake) | 49 | 1.44 | 34 | 14 | 13 | 7 | 55 | 58 | -3 | 11-2-4 | 3-11-3 | |||
| 7 | LA Galaxy (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/la-galaxy) | 48 | 1.45 | 33 | 13 | 11 | 9 | 64 | 61 | 3 | 8-4-4 | 5-7-5 | |||
| 8 | e - Vancouver Whitecaps FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/vancouver) | 44 | 1.33 | 33 | 12 | 13 | 8 | 52 | 66 | -14 | 6-5-5 | 6-8-3 | |||
| 9 | e - Minnesota United FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/minnesota) | 36 | 1.09 | 33 | 11 | 19 | 3 | 47 | 68 | -21 | 10-6-1 | 1-13-2 | |||
| 10 | e - Houston Dynamo (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/houston) | 35 | 1.06 | 33 | 9 | 16 | 8 | 55 | 56 | -1 | 8-6-3 | 1-10-5 | |||
| 11 | e - Colorado Rapids (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/colorado) | 28 | 0.85 | 33 | 7 | 19 | 7 | 34 | 62 | -28 | 5-8-3 | 2-11-4 | |||
| 12 | e - San Jose Earthquakes (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/san-jose) | 21 | 0.64 | 33 | 4 | 20 | 9 | 48 | 69 | -21 | 2-9-6 | 2-11-3 |
anyone else watch the january friendlies?Is it 2022 or 2026 when they broke the damn thing by screwing up the format by (1) making qualifications a complete joke, and (2) basically making it a big single elimination final tournament; and have to play it in like December because they are staging it in the middle of the desert?
i knows it's weak camp and weak competition, but based on what i saw the past week or 2... we win the wc 2022. :72:
seriously though, it was nice to see some good soccer from the usmnt. been a long time.
CONCACAF Champions League play started yesterday. Panama entry defeated Toronto 4-0 in their first leg. Houston was 1-0 over the Guatemala entry.damarcus beasley scored the goal for the dynamo. i don't follow mls a lot but i thought he retired.
Scroll down to middle of page for results.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_CONCACAF_Champions_League
Atletico put a pretty big dent in Juve's (and Ronaldo's) chances at the Champions League title today. Man City had a big win at Schalke (with 3 away goals).https://www.scoreboard.com/soccer/europe/champions-league/
Bayern and Barca basically held serve yesterday with nil-nil away games against Liverpool and Lyon, respectively.
Apparently there is a seven team Canadian Premier League starting up this year. Coast to coast participation.https://www.scoreboard.com/soccer/canada/canadian-premier-league/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Canadian_Premier_League
The league brings FC Edmonton back from the dead with their records intact, upgrading their status from "extinct" to "coming off of a one year hiatus." Ottawa FC will remain in the USL.
In related news, the 2019 Canadian Championship field has been expanded in order to include these seven teams.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Canadian_Championship
The Crew defeat FC Cincinnati 3-0 in a trial run of the Hell is Real Derby, finishing the preseason at 2-0-2.Love seeing the Crew kick the crap out CinCin.
The two teams meet twice during the regular season, both times in August. Cincinnati won the lone game between the two teams in a 2017 US Open Cupset 1-0.
https://twitter.com/ColumbusCrewSC/status/1099474141810446336
All four USA teams beefed it in the first leg of the quarterfinals.beefed = did not win
...ManU and Arsenal's ability to fail to capture points against bad teams...As I was saying.
if you didn't watch the semi finals of the ucl, you missed some instant classics. man, as a spurs supporter, still shaking. can't believe it.Yeah, that was pretty much insane.
if you didn't watch the semi finals of the ucl, you missed some instant classics. man, as a spurs supporter, still shaking. can't believe it.Barca demonstrated that even in a sport where most players can't use their hands, you can't play it with both hands wrapped firmly around your neck.
link (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fifa-abandons-plans-to-expand-2022-world-cup-in-qatar-to-48-teams-due-to-political-and-logistical-issues-ztlq6bk9c)Yeah, when I saw the headline I was thinking it was better news than it actually was. Forgot they weren't planning on doing this til 2026 anyway, and seems like that is still on.
fifa abandons plan for 48 team world cup in 2022. i thought this was already settled, but apparently it's now official i guess.
2026 wc still set for 48 teams.
| Date | Home | Away | Kickoff Time (ET) |
| Saturday, Sept. 7 | Canada | Cuba | 8 p.m. |
| Tuesday, Sept. 10 | Cuba | Canada | 7:15 p.m. |
| Friday, Oct. 11 | USA | Cuba | 7 p.m. |
| Tuesday, Oct. 15 | Canada | USA | 7:30 p.m. |
| Friday, Nov. 15 | USA | Canada | 7:15 p.m. |
| Tuesday, Nov 19 | Cuba | USA | 7:30 p.m. |
concacaf inaugural 2019-2020 league of nations schedule released. usa's group schedule (locations tbd):I'm torn on this. I enjoy the Gold Cup, and like having somewhat meaningful friendlies, but I'm not sure beating up on Canada and Cuba is best for development. Then again, I'm not sure how good the Euro rosters the send to play us in friendlies are.
link (https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2019/05/us-mnt-learns-schedule-for-concacaf-nations-league-group-stage)
Date Home Away Kickoff Time (ET) Saturday, Sept. 7 Canada Cuba 8 p.m. Tuesday, Sept. 10 Cuba Canada 7:15 p.m. Friday, Oct. 11 USA Cuba 7 p.m. Tuesday, Oct. 15 Canada USA 7:30 p.m. Friday, Nov. 15 USA Canada 7:15 p.m. Tuesday, Nov 19 Cuba USA 7:30 p.m.
I'm torn on this. I enjoy the Gold Cup, and like having somewhat meaningful friendlies, but I'm not sure beating up on Canada and Cuba is best for development. Then again, I'm not sure how good the Euro rosters the send to play us in friendlies are.The Gold Cup was pretty exciting until they decided to make it every 2 years. Now its just a clown show and glorified friendly tourney.
Sheesh. At what point do you dial it back (Lloyd scored the 13th in stoppage time)? They scored five in the last 13 minutes of the game. Morgan had five herself.
The top of the women's game is quite competitive, much more so than softball was in the Olympics. IIRC, that was the US, Canada, and no one else. Here, there are probably five teams with a legit shot at the title, and five more with an outside shot (basically, down to Brazil at #10).
I was amused listening to and reading the talking heads discussion of how the celebrations (not the goals) would turn the USA into the villains in this tournament...as if the USA aren't already the villains. I don't follow the game enough to know what teams are considered dirty, but you can bet that USA is Goliath and everyone is gunning for "us." Back in 2011, you can bet everyone outside of here was cheering for Japan as the underdog that made good.
What's with the women's game trying to squelch anything that even vaguely resembles a competitive spirit? Hope Solo was a legend, and got cut for behaving in a post game press conference in a manner which you'd expect just about any jock to behave after a tough loss. Now they are bellyaching about too many goals when that is the tie breaker?Hope Solo got cut at the end of a long line of transgressions, for which she had already been on thin ice.
Meanwhile Megan Rapinoe is of course free to protest the National Anthem as a member and representative of the US National team without consequence, but I digress.
Solo is the quintessential crazy goalie (they are common in hockey and soccer--I played keeper in both...).That's a slow Tuesday morning for Pac Man Jones.
She was a difficult and not particularly well-liked teammate. It didn't start with her criticism of Scully in 2007, but that sure didn't help. She would lash out at teammates frequently, she had been disciplined for a domestic violence arrest (she beat up her nephew, though why is an open question--the criminal charges were eventually dropped), and for accompanying her husband while he drove a USWNT van while intoxicated (he got a DUI for that one). And she most definitely did not get along with Coach Ellis. Calling the Swedes "cowards" was bad, but my understanding is that it was her reaction to the suspension following that, not the "cowards" comment itself, that led to her dismissal.
US Open CupThere were no fans allowed at the Atlanta-Charleston match. WTF!?
The Crew took down Pittsburgh, and Cincy beat Louisville.
Here's the bracket for the next round.
(https://cdn.ussoccer.com/-/media/project/ussf/2019-stories/open-cup/2019-open-cup-bracket-p1.ashx?la=en-us&rev=a01f057e1c5348afa10b43e97f5ba6c0&hash=F471CBB87D0A98C767A4249DE5E9A575)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_U.S._Open_Cup (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_U.S._Open_Cup)
*Atlanta beat Charleston and will play the Crew.
There were a pair of USL over MLS round 4 Cupsets. St Louis beat the Chicago Fire, and will face Cincy in the next round. New Mexico took down the Colorado Rapids, and will play Dallas in round 5.
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Canadian Championship
Round 2 is in the books, and now the MLS/USL teams will be introduced in the quarterfinal round, minus Toronto who gets a bye to the semifinals as the defending Champion. Toronto will play the winner of the Ottawa Fury (USL) vs the Halifax Wanderers (CPL). On the other side of the bracket the Montreal Impact play York (CPL) out of suburban Toronto, and the Vancouver Whitecaps play Calvary (CPL) out of Calgary, Alberta.
(https://www.maple-leaf-forever.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/DwkXv_rWoAEQM2d.jpg)
The winners of these two tourneys of course get a bid to the 2020 Champions League.
Goalie for China Women's team was incredible against Spain. 0-0 draw. Spain should have won by at least 5-0. Check the stats.Spain just needed that draw to advance. Interesting to see a couple of the early women's soccer powers, who just happened to be first, starting to fade. US, China and Norway were probably the three best early on, now China didn't even qualify in 2011, and got knocked out in the group stage this year. Norway looks primed to advance, but I think that's the end of the line for them.
https://www.scoreboard.com/game/china-spain-2019/zV87eRZF/#game-summary|game-statistics;0|lineups;1 (https://www.scoreboard.com/game/china-spain-2019/zV87eRZF/#game-summary|game-statistics;0|lineups;1)
Crew got bounced from the Open cup by Hot-lanta yesterday.They need to moon the cameras and tell them to "kiss my ass". :)
Everyone see US woman's team sublimly golf clap after scoring so as not to upset the internet world who was upset that they cheered in their previous match?
Crew got bounced from the Open cup by Hot-lanta yesterday.Did they allow fans at the Crew match?
Everyone see US woman's team sublimly golf clap after scoring so as not to upset the internet world who was upset that they cheered in their previous match?
New Mexico United (USL) adds Dallas to their MLS scrap heap in the US Open Cup. Up next? Minnesota United in the quarterfinals.Are the losing MLS teams playing without key players? Atlanta is without top scorer, Josef Martinez, who is playing for Venezuela in the Copa America Tournament.
Also St Louis took down Cincinnati. So that's two USL teams in the quarterfinals, each with a pair of wins over MLS teams. They have to play Atlanta next.
There's a late West Coast game late tomorrow night, so I'll search out the quarterfinal bracket after work on Friday.
Some drama here with Australia routing Jamaica, meaning France or Germany would have to play Brazil in a round of 16 game.Appears that England or the Netherlands will have to play Brazil. Assuming the teams tied with 9 points are seeded by goal differential. They are tied with 4 GD, which is low for the 9 point teams. How else would they do it? The rout of Thailand put the USA at the top of the heap. So why did they catch so much grief!?
Right now Brazil, Italy and Australia would all have 6 points, Italy would be +5, and both Brazil and Australia +3, but Australia with the edge in goals for at 8-5. So Brazil would finish 3rd
Appears that England or the Netherlands will have to play Brazil. Assuming the teams tied with 9 points are seeded by goal differential. They are tied with 4 GD, which is low for the 9 point teams. How else would they do it? The rout of Thailand put the USA st the top of the heap. So why did they catch so much grief!?
Upcoming Australia-Norway is most even, and correct, match up of WWC knockout round. If 1-16 seeding had been used they would be #'s 8 & 9.Even matchup indeed. And fittingly, it went overtime, and then to PKs.
Even matchup indeed. And fittingly, it went overtime, and then to PKs.I think merging with CONMEBOL is the more likely scenario.
Anyone watch the USAMNT play Trinidad and Tobago? Their keeper sure was a mouthy little shit, right up until the US scored its 3rd or 4th goal. Then he just quietly moped for the rest of the match.
I really can't stand CONCACAF. I hate the way all the small Central American and island nations play the game. So much flopping, so many fouls, and the CONCACAF officials just let it ride because if they called every single one of them, most teams would end up with 11 red cards and no players to finish a game. Obviously it can't happen, but I'd love to see the USA petition to join UEFA instead.
I think merging with CONMEBOL is the more likely scenario.CONMEBOL is only a slight improvement wrt style of play. Maybe we can go independent.
Lots of discussion around VAR and penalties. That won't end with the US match today. Both PKs were technically correct calls addressing behavior the laws are intended to stop (cleat-up, late tackles), but neither was a big hit to the attacker in the grand scheme of fouls that result in PKs.
I'm sure it ends up being political, but I really don't understand the animosity toward Rapinoe. She is one of best players--if not the best--on the team. Her form of protest is milquetoast at worst.
I don't think the first one was in doubt at all. The second was a "soft foul" but it was still late with studs out that hit the leg. They might have let it go at midfield but in the box, that's just not going to fly.I didn't get to see the match and didn't bother to watch the recording when I learned US didn't score except by penalty. Were the US coaches up and objecting to the rough play? Every time I see them they are sitting on their asses. Based on what you are saying I probably would have been ejected.
In general, that Spain side is probably the dirtiest women's team I can ever recall playing in world competition. The refs let things get way out of hand with respect to fouling Morgan and Rapinoe early on, many fouls that didn't get called at all, several extremely hard and deliberate fouls that should have been yellows, and enough of those on the same Spanish players that they could EASILY have handed out double-yellows (and consequently red) to TWO different Spanish players. Spain CLEARLY started off with a strategy that they were going to foul the shit out of Morgan, and that was a risky strategy that finally hurt them on the second PK. They were playing with fire all day and they finally got burned.
Spain played dirty AF and I was watching with my 11yo daughter who plays Club here in Austin, and I was embarrassed having to watch that kind of display with her. She watches all of the women's soccer and she was pretty shocked at how dirty Spain played.
Lots of discussion around VAR and penalties. That won't end with the US match today. Both PKs were technically correct calls addressing behavior the laws are intended to stop (cleat-up, late tackles), but neither was a big hit to the attacker in the grand scheme of fouls that result in PKs.the protest is weak, and generally i'm fine with those type protests (kneeling, etc.) even if i think what they're protesting and/or how is stupid. however, when you're representing the nation/thing you're protesting, it seems hollow and disingenuous.
I'm sure it ends up being political, but I really don't understand the animosity toward Rapinoe. She is one of best players--if not the best--on the team. Her form of protest is milquetoast at worst.
the protest is weak, and generally i'm fine with those type protests (kneeling, etc.) even if i think what they're protesting and/or how is stupid. however, when you're representing the nation/thing you're protesting, it seems hollow and disingenuous.
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I don't know Rapinoe's protest (but can guess) and may not agree with it being classy, but it's very difficult to express anything earnestly in america and do it unpatriotically. Because freedom of expression or civil disobedience, almost to any unpopular extent, is the literal guts of patriotism. We're a nation moreso built on that principle than we are built on the principles of waving flags and loving troops. On that balance, for example, joining an anthem or sitting it out are the same. Both sides regard the first amendment, I guess, but only the first one inspired it.
We were the first nation to promise minority opinions had a home forever. And even when we hate those minority opinions, we should love how our country has this legacy.
People who sit out of the anthem aren't "protesting the nation," they are protesting things that happen in the nation. These are not identical. Protesting america is a darker, absolute thing - wanting america to end or be destroyed. And that's not a common credo. And certainly not Rapinoe's. Protesting america was Osama bin Laden's credo.
I gave up on convincing the internet was wrong some time ago. Or at least I tried to try and want to keep it up. My motivation here is just to be my version of real. You're doing the same. I think that's nice. Brainwashing to increase my clan is boring anyway. And if you ask Kant, unethical. You're an end unto yourself. It's good that you're out there. And if people with different bends can take an even-keeled second to get along in disagreement, that's good for everyone.Yup, agree with all of the above.
I didn't pay much attention, how did they perform the seedings? Is there a legitimate reason it turned out that way, or just some home-cooking? :)Pre-slotted based on Group
Pre-slotted based on GroupWell I know that, but was there something deliberate done with the groups?
Well I know that, but was there something deliberate done with the groups?I don't think so. I think FIFA used to hand pick the groups to ensure good TV viewership for group play, but I believe this is the first time it's totally random within the pots.
I don't think so. I think FIFA used to hand pick the groups to ensure good TV viewership for group play, but I believe this is the first time it's totally random within the pots.
The problem is that there were 9 UEFA teams in the tournament so 3 groups had 2 and 3 groups had 1. Groups A, B and D had 2, and a UEFA team came in first in all three, and came in 1-2 in A and B. Groups C, E, and F had one, with the UEFA team winning C and E, and coming in second (Sweden) in F.
So the 8 UEFA teams to advance were all distributed, but all came in 1st or 2nd in their Group, meaning they were totally pre-selected.
I would think the only argument would be that you only use Group play to determine the 16 to advance, then you reseed 1-16 based on the seeding you used to split to pods.
Then you'd get...
#1 USA vs. #46 Cameroon
#8 Japan vs. #9 Sweden
#5 Canada vs. #13 Norway
#4 England vs. #15 China
#3 France vs. #16 Italy
#6 Australia vs. #12 Spain
#7 Netherlands vs. #10 Brazil
#2 Germany vs. #39 Nigeria
I don't know Rapinoe's protest (but can guess)You've probably already googled it, but she (1) doesn't sing; and (2) doesn't put her hand on her heart. The National Team requires that the athletes stand, and she does. So basically, she does what about 90% of every sports crowd does.
You've probably already googled it, but she (1) doesn't sing; and (2) doesn't put her hand on her heart. The National Team requires that the athletes stand, and she does. So basically, she does what about 90% of every sports crowd does.this is my biggest gripe about it. i don't like her protest, but that's beside the point and i'll defend her right to do it.
As I said above, milquetoast at worst. Proof is that outside of certain information agencies, it gets nary a mention, which makes it an awfully ineffective protest. The whole point of protest is to draw attention to yourself, and thus have the opportunity to get attention for the issue you care about. The lack of attention Rapinoe gets for failing to sing (yawn) shows how ineffective it is. Her hair is a much bolder statement.
You've probably already googled it, but she (1) doesn't sing; and (2) doesn't put her hand on her heart. The National Team requires that the athletes stand, and she does. So basically, she does what about 90% of every sports crowd does.You don't think protest can be personal in nature? A small thing you do for whatever reason?
As I said above, milquetoast at worst. Proof is that outside of certain information agencies, it gets nary a mention, which makes it an awfully ineffective protest. The whole point of protest is to draw attention to yourself, and thus have the opportunity to get attention for the issue you care about. The lack of attention Rapinoe gets for failing to sing (yawn) shows how ineffective it is. Her hair is a much bolder statement.
this is my biggest gripe about it. i don't like her protest, but that's beside the point and i'll defend her right to do it.This seems to be sparking something, some strong feelings? But as you said, the downside of anthem protests is they always end up back at some folks calling for some kind of adverse consequences for violating a PC code of conduct.
but, imo, her chosen form of protest doesn't accomplish anything she wants. case in point is i'm not 100% sure what she's protesting. i can probably guess, but it's not bringing me any closer to her point she's trying to make. it's also so weak i'm not concerned with looking up why she's doing it. the only thing people are discussing is if she should be required to stand/salute/sing for the anthem. not the topic of the protest.
a few years back there was a woman that turned down a cap with the uswnt due to her religious beliefs concerning the pride jerseys. agree or disagree, that protest was strong and sparked discourse over the topic of the protest, not the protesting act itself. it wasn't that far reaching cause she wasn't as well know as someone like rapinoe, but it was at least on topic.
protests should either be directly relatable to the topic or so strong people look up why they're doing what they're doing. otherwise it's folly. jmo
You don't think protest can be personal in nature? A small thing you do for whatever reason?Actually, no. The nature of protest is that it is public expression. A small thing done without the goal of attracting attention--something intended as a personal rather than a public affirmation--isn't a protest. It's just that, a personal affirmation.
Rapinoe es en fuego, I love it.Like most sports, the referees really don't want to take over a close game at the end. There's so much discretion in awarding fouls in soccer, that this is pretty common at the end of a game--especially one with stakes like this one.
I think overall France outplayed us, but not by a huge margin, and it certainly could have been 3-1, plenty of calls like that go the other way. After a super-physical game against Spain and with less rest than France, I thought we played pretty well overall. France is good. This game probably could have been a semi if things break differently in the pools.
I was a little surprised they were just letting France literally knock over our players in the last 5 minutes of gametime and the final 5 minutes (ahem!) of stoppage. But home cookin' gonna home cook.
Anyway, on to England. Another team with one more day of rest than we'll get.
Like most sports, the referees really don't want to take over a close game at the end. There's so much discretion in awarding fouls in soccer, that this is pretty common at the end of a game--especially one with stakes like this one.The biggest disservice done to women's sports is assuming they are just women playing the men's game, and hence the most coverage goes to the female "versions" of popular men's sports, basketball and base(soft)ball. Every single sport, male to female is played completely different, and IMO, women's basketball and softball are two of the absolute least watchable things. Whereas women's soccer is a different, but fantastic version of soccer; and honestly I prefer the way women play volleyball and tennis, more volleys. It's a more aesthetically pleasing version of the sport. Again, just my opinion.
France had more possession, but the U.S. had the lead, so while it's nice that Rapinoe, et al., gave France credit, I don't know that I agree that France outplayed the U.S.. Dunn had a good game; Rapinoe had a good game; Morgan had a good game; Naeher had a good game, etc.
I was surprised that VAR wasn't used on the offside call that took the 3rd U.S. goal off the board. It was awfully close/questionable. That was a huge call for France.
I really like women's soccer, but for kicks Saturday morning I watched a men's game from the UEFA Champions League on my DVR. They really are different games. I read an article once written by a woman professional cyclist calling out men who seemed to puff out their chest if they could beat her during a training ride. There was a lot to the piece, but one key takeaway was, "I'm competing against women, not men--and our body types are different, so we perform differently." That's fair about women's soccer, too--and I think the USWNT, as well as their strongest competitors, are doing a good job of really upping the women's game. I think the next two big areas of improvement are goal keeping and individual ball skills (more players like Marta and Tobin Heath needed). And the women's game will always be different than the men's game.
A USWNT win over England sure would be an appropriate way to kick off our celebration of American Independence this week... :)I hate soccer more than you hate the Rolling Stones/Doors.But insomnia subsides watching it
Rapinoe not starting?sounds like she's injured. didn't even warm up.
sounds like she's injured. didn't even warm up.I'm a big fan of Press.
that, or she's visiting trump in white house.
edit: and as i type that, press, rapinoe's replacement, scores.
Best game of the tournament. Wow, chipiness, controversy VAR decisions, a PK save in what, the 81st minute?Unbelievable call on the penalty shot. IMO the player was never touched, much less fouled. She went down because she missed the ball. Like Charlie Brown when Lucy pulls the ball away from him.
Unbelievable call on the penalty shot. IMO the player was never touched, much less fouled. She went down because she missed the ball. Like Charlie Brown when Lucy pulls the ball away from him.Looked highly questionable to me, too. If anything, it appeared the Brit kicked her leg back oddly after whiffing on the ball, and that's what initiated any potential contact. Good thing it didn't affect the outcome.
i didn't see any contact until after the ball was past her, and minimal at that. looked like a straight dive to me.I added my thoughts on the offside above.
I added my thoughts on the offside above.
As for the contact, the replay we saw on TV was a poor one to show the contact because it started late. The contact is as White is lifting her right foot off the grass. It was minor, but it altered her swing. Did she dive afterward? Of course she did. But the contact was there. You can see it here:
(https://i.imgur.com/hwDZOtb.png)
After the send off, the time wasting was exactly the right thing to do. With England playing down one, no question the right thing to do is keep possession and burn clock. It was more like the end of a basketball game than I'd like to watch (as a spectator), but still the right call.
I think merging with CONMEBOL is the more likely scenario.Thinking more about this, if they want to expand the World Cup, what about this...
Disagree (and I guess we can agree to that, but...): this is earlier than what you are describing. What you see here is she is about to plant her left foot, and she is beginning the swing of her right foot toward the ball, but it is thrown off by Sauerbrunn's contact. The whiff (the awkward miss) is at the end of this swing that is just starting here--it hasn't happened yet--and almost certainly this contact caused the miss.
And that was the problem with the replays shown--they didn't start early enough for the viewer to really focus on where the foul occurred, which is here.
But don't take my word for it, "I thought there was contact, but if I didn't go for it, she was going to score," Sauerbrunn said after the match.
Thinking more about this, if they want to expand the World Cup, what about this...
A 4 year cycle where: (1) continental championships (Gold Cup, Euros, Copa America, Nations Cup, etc...) & World Cup preliminaries; (2) World Cup Qualifying; (3) WC Qualifying Stage 2 & Confederations Cup; (4) World Cup.
Then you re-do World Cup Qualifying, and eliminate the continental stages. Top 56 skip the preliminaries. Remaining 150ish compete for the remaining 56 spots during Year 1.
Year 2, instead of an expanded "World Cup" you take your 112 teams, and split them into 16 different 7 team groups, with 16 host nations. Over 3 weeks in the summer, you basically have a 112 team World Cup, where teams simply play the other 6 teams in their groups. Each of the 16 group winners advance to the Year 4 World Cup, under the current 32 team format.
The 32 2nd and 3rd place teams are re-seeded, and play a 2 leg home and home series against each other during Year 3, with the 16 winners taking the remaining 16 spots in the tournament. Then in the late summer you still have the Confederations Cup, with the winners of the Year 1 continental cups.
This way you keep the current 32 team format, which I think is close to perfect. But now makes qualification it's own 3 week event, so that you have world football on the stage every other year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js7XUk82V_A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js7XUk82V_A)Was that #6 (Brian) or #8 (Ertz) that picked the flag up? Kudos to whoever.
The articles say it was Kelley O'Hara, and definitely kudos to her. You can see even in that brief clip that she seems mortified that it hit the ground.O'hara is listed as #5 on the roster. Can't tell if it as a 6 or an 8, but it definitely is not a 5.
I don't think Allie Long dropped in on purpose, she was caught up in the celebration. But it seems pretty obvious to me that Rapinoe deliberately pushed it away and wanted nothing to do with it while she celebrated. That's certainly her right, but it's not going to win her any favor. Of course at this point, I'm not sure anything she did would be looked upon in a favorable light by those who dislike her stance.
O'hara is listed as #5 on the roster. Can't tell if it as a 6 or an 8, but it definitely is not a 5.whoever picked it up is wearing one of the "champions" jerseys with #19 on it. morgan and rapinoe also have it on, as well as some players in the background. long, however, still has on her #20 playing jersey.
https://www.ussoccer.com/players (https://www.ussoccer.com/players)
US Open CupSMH on that one. Atlanta average attendance is greater than Orlando and Minnesota combined. Guess they don't care if they have any fans attending anyway. Hell, they didn't allow any at the Atlanta-Charleston match in Atlanta.
The Semifinal pairings have been announced.
Orlando hosts Atlanta, and Minnesota hosts the Timbers.
Games will be played around August 7th.
| # | Club | PTS (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings) | PPG | GP (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gp) | W (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=w) | L (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=l) | T (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=t) | GF (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gf) | GA (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=ga) | GD (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gd) | W-L-T | W-L-T | |||
| 4 | New York City FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/nycfc) | 35 | 1.75 | 20 | 9 | 3 | 8 | 36 | 24 | 12 | 5-1-4 | 4-2-4 | |||
| 1 | Philadelphia Union (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/philadelphia) | 39 | 1.63 | 24 | 11 | 7 | 6 | 41 | 36 | 5 | 7-2-3 | 4-5-3 | |||
| 2 | Atlanta United FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/atlanta) | 36 | 1.57 | 23 | 11 | 9 | 3 | 38 | 29 | 9 | 8-1-3 | 3-8-0 | |||
| 3 | D.C. United (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/d.c.-united) | 36 | 1.5 | 24 | 9 | 6 | 9 | 31 | 26 | 5 | 5-2-5 | 4-4-4 | |||
| 5 | New York Red Bulls (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/ny-red-bulls) | 34 | 1.48 | 23 | 10 | 9 | 4 | 39 | 34 | 5 | 7-4-1 | 3-5-3 | |||
| 7 | New England Revolution (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/new-england) | 33 | 1.43 | 23 | 9 | 8 | 6 | 34 | 39 | -5 | 6-4-2 | 3-4-4 | |||
| 8 | Toronto FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/toronto-fc) | 32 | 1.39 | 23 | 9 | 9 | 5 | 38 | 38 | 0 | 6-4-3 | 3-5-2 | |||
| 6 | Montreal Impact (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/montreal) | 33 | 1.38 | 24 | 10 | 11 | 3 | 31 | 38 | -7 | 6-4-1 | 4-7-2 | |||
| 9 | Orlando City SC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/orlando) | 26 | 1.13 | 23 | 7 | 11 | 5 | 30 | 33 | -3 | 4-6-1 | 3-5-4 | |||
| 11 | Chicago Fire (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/chicago) | 24 | 1 | 24 | 5 | 10 | 9 | 34 | 35 | -1 | 5-2-6 | 0-8-3 | |||
| 10 | Columbus Crew SC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/columbus) | 24 | 1 | 24 | 7 | 14 | 3 | 24 | 36 | -12 | 5-6-2 | 2-8-1 | |||
| 12 | FC Cincinnati (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/cincinnati) | 17 | 0.74 | 23 | 5 | 16 | 2 | 22 | 53 | -31 | 3-6-1 | 2-10-1 |
| # | Club | PTS (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings) | PPG | GP (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gp) | W (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=w) | L (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=l) | T (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=t) | GF (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gf) | GA (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=ga) | GD (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gd) | W-L-T | W-L-T | |||
| 1 | Los Angeles Football Club (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/lafc) | 49 | 2.23 | 22 | 15 | 3 | 4 | 59 | 23 | 36 | 9-0-1 | 6-3-3 | |||
| 2 | Seattle Sounders FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/seattle) | 38 | 1.73 | 22 | 11 | 6 | 5 | 33 | 28 | 5 | 8-1-2 | 3-5-3 | |||
| 3 | LA Galaxy (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/la-galaxy) | 37 | 1.68 | 22 | 12 | 9 | 1 | 30 | 31 | -1 | 8-4-0 | 4-5-1 | |||
| 4 | San Jose Earthquakes (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/san-jose) | 37 | 1.68 | 22 | 11 | 7 | 4 | 39 | 33 | 6 | 8-3-1 | 3-4-3 | |||
| 5 | Minnesota United FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/minnesota) | 35 | 1.59 | 22 | 10 | 7 | 5 | 38 | 30 | 8 | 6-1-4 | 4-6-1 | |||
| 7 | Portland Timbers (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/portland) | 31 | 1.48 | 21 | 9 | 8 | 4 | 35 | 32 | 3 | 3-1-2 | 6-7-2 | |||
| 6 | FC Dallas (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/fc-dallas) | 33 | 1.43 | 23 | 9 | 8 | 6 | 31 | 26 | 5 | 6-1-5 | 3-7-1 | |||
| 8 | Real Salt Lake (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/real-salt-lake) | 31 | 1.41 | 22 | 9 | 9 | 4 | 30 | 30 | 0 | 7-2-1 | 2-7-3 | |||
| 9 | Houston Dynamo (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/houston) | 30 | 1.36 | 22 | 9 | 10 | 3 | 32 | 35 | -3 | 7-2-3 | 2-8-0 | |||
| 10 | Sporting Kansas City (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/sporting-kc) | 25 | 1.14 | 22 | 6 | 9 | 7 | 33 | 39 | -6 | 4-4-3 | 2-5-4 | |||
| 12 | Colorado Rapids (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/colorado) | 20 | 0.91 | 22 | 5 | 12 | 5 | 33 | 45 | -12 | 4-6-2 | 1-6-3 | |||
| 11 | Vancouver Whitecaps FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/vancouver) | 21 | 0.88 | 24 | 4 | 11 | 9 | 23 | 41 | -18 | 3-5-4 | 1-6-5 |
Hell Is RealOne of the most fun/emotional soccer games I've been too (I can't remember if it was the first or second Dos-Cero at Crew stadium, that atmosphere rivaled and OSU Football game. I've only been to one of those and am leaning towards the first one, but remember chanting Dos-a-Cero for a lot of the match.)
The first installment winds up in a draw.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBpxzkJW4Ac1eQJ?format=jpg&name=small)
So we are starting to get quite a bit of clarity with regards to the 2020 Champions League field.
Jamaica has a team in.
-Portmore United: won the Caribbean Tournament.
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Canada is down to two teams for their lone autobid.
-Toronto vs Montreal, September 18th and 25th.
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United States: 4 bids
-US Open Cup: Atlanta
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The other 6 Champions League bids will be decided through the Concacaf League Tournament.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_CONCACAF_League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_CONCACAF_League)
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Sept friendlies roster released (https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2019/08/berhalter-calls-26-players-for-matches-against-mexico-and-uruguay). honestly, looks like pretty good selections.Friendlies or CONCACAF Nations League? I thought that was mostly replacing friendlies this year
GOALKEEPERS (4): Jesse Gonzalez (FC Dallas; 0/0), Brad Guzan (Atlanta United FC; 60/0), Sean Johnson (New York City FC; 8/0), Zack Steffen (Fortuna Düsseldorf/GER; 15/0)
DEFENDERS (9): John Brooks (Wolfsburg/GER; 37/3), Reggie Cannon (FC Dallas; 6/0), Sergiño Dest (Ajax/NED; 0/0), Nick Lima (San Jose Earthquakes; 7/0), Aaron Long (New York Red Bulls; 11/2), Daniel Lovitz (Montreal Impact/CAN; 8/0),) Tim Ream (Fulham/ENG; 35/1), Miles Robinson (Atlanta United FC; 0/0), Walker Zimmerman (LAFC; 10/2)
MIDFIELDERS (7): Sebastian Lletget (LA Galaxy; 9/2), Weston McKennie (Schalke/GER; 14/3), Alfredo Morales (Fortuna Düsseldorf/GER; 13/0), Paxton Pomykal (FC Dallas; 0/0), Cristian Roldan (Seattle Sounders FC; 15/0), Wil Trapp (Columbus Crew SC; 19/0), Jackson Yueill (San Jose Earthquakes; 1/0)
FORWARDS (6): Corey Baird (Real Salt Lake; 3/0), Tyler Boyd (Besiktas/TUR; 5/2), Jordan Morris (Seattle Sounders FC; 33/5), Christian Pulisic (Chelsea/ENG; 31/13), Josh Sargent (Werder Bremen/GER; 7/2), Gyasi Zardes (Columbus Crew SC; 51/10)
with weah, adams, yedlin and miazga all out from injury and bradley and altidore out with club matches during break, this is a pretty solid selection, imo. not sure why horvath isn't there, though.
friendlies. nations league starts in Nov. i thinkLooked it up, it starts next weekend, but USA doesn't play in the first window. We play our group games in October and November. Hopefully we can sneak out of our group of death with Canada and Cuba. Should be tremendous for player development.
| # | Club | PTS (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings) | PPG | GP (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gp) | W (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=w) | L (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=l) | T (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=t) | GF (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gf) | GA (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=ga) | GD (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gd) | W-L-T | W-L-T | |||
| 2 | x - New York City FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/nycfc) | 50 | 1.85 | 27 | 14 | 5 | 8 | 51 | 34 | 17 | 8-1-4 | 6-4-4 | |||
| 1 | x - Philadelphia Union (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/philadelphia) | 51 | 1.76 | 29 | 15 | 8 | 6 | 54 | 42 | 12 | 10-2-3 | 5-6-3 | |||
| 3 | Atlanta United FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/atlanta) | 48 | 1.71 | 28 | 15 | 10 | 3 | 47 | 33 | 14 | 10-1-3 | 5-9-0 | |||
| 5 | New York Red Bulls (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/ny-red-bulls) | 41 | 1.41 | 29 | 12 | 12 | 5 | 47 | 44 | 3 | 8-5-2 | 4-7-3 | |||
| 4 | D.C. United (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/d.c.-united) | 42 | 1.4 | 30 | 11 | 10 | 9 | 39 | 38 | 1 | 6-4-5 | 5-6-4 | |||
| 6 | New England Revolution (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/new-england) | 39 | 1.39 | 28 | 10 | 9 | 9 | 41 | 47 | -6 | 7-5-3 | 3-4-6 | |||
| 7 | Toronto FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/toronto-fc) | 38 | 1.36 | 28 | 10 | 10 | 8 | 44 | 45 | -1 | 7-4-4 | 3-6-4 | |||
| 8 | Montreal Impact (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/montreal) | 37 | 1.23 | 30 | 11 | 15 | 4 | 42 | 56 | -14 | 7-5-2 | 4-10-2 | |||
| 9 | Orlando City SC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/orlando) | 34 | 1.17 | 29 | 9 | 13 | 7 | 35 | 39 | -4 | 6-7-1 | 3-6-6 | |||
| 10 | Chicago Fire (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/chicago) | 34 | 1.13 | 30 | 8 | 12 | 10 | 44 | 43 | 1 | 7-2-6 | 1-10-4 | |||
| 11 | Columbus Crew SC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/columbus) | 31 | 1.03 | 30 | 8 | 15 | 7 | 33 | 44 | -11 | 5-6-5 | 3-9-2 | |||
| 12 | e - FC Cincinnati (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/cincinnati) | 18 | 0.64 | 28 | 5 | 20 | 3 | 28 | 67 | -39 | 3-9-1 | 2-11-2 |
| # | Club | PTS (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings) | PPG | GP (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gp) | W (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=w) | L (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=l) | T (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=t) | GF (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gf) | GA (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=ga) | GD (https://www.mlssoccer.com/standings?sort=gd) | W-L-T | W-L-T | |||
| 1 | x - Los Angeles Football Club (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/lafc) | 62 | 2.3 | 27 | 19 | 3 | 5 | 74 | 28 | 46 | 11-0-2 | 8-3-3 | |||
| 5 | Seattle Sounders FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/seattle) | 43 | 1.59 | 27 | 12 | 8 | 7 | 42 | 40 | 2 | 8-2-3 | 4-6-4 | |||
| 2 | San Jose Earthquakes (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/san-jose) | 44 | 1.57 | 28 | 13 | 10 | 5 | 48 | 43 | 5 | 10-3-2 | 3-7-3 | |||
| 7 | Minnesota United FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/minnesota) | 42 | 1.56 | 27 | 12 | 9 | 6 | 44 | 37 | 7 | 8-1-5 | 4-8-1 | |||
| 6 | LA Galaxy (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/la-galaxy) | 42 | 1.56 | 27 | 13 | 11 | 3 | 38 | 41 | -3 | 9-4-1 | 4-7-2 | |||
| 3 | Real Salt Lake (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/real-salt-lake) | 43 | 1.54 | 28 | 13 | 11 | 4 | 40 | 35 | 5 | 10-3-1 | 3-8-3 | |||
| 4 | FC Dallas (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/fc-dallas) | 43 | 1.48 | 29 | 12 | 10 | 7 | 47 | 38 | 9 | 9-1-5 | 3-9-2 | |||
| 8 | Portland Timbers (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/portland) | 40 | 1.48 | 27 | 12 | 11 | 4 | 43 | 40 | 3 | 6-3-2 | 6-8-2 | |||
| 9 | Sporting Kansas City (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/sporting-kc) | 37 | 1.32 | 28 | 10 | 11 | 7 | 41 | 45 | -4 | 7-5-3 | 3-6-4 | |||
| 10 | Houston Dynamo (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/houston) | 31 | 1.11 | 28 | 9 | 15 | 4 | 38 | 49 | -11 | 7-3-4 | 2-12-0 | |||
| 11 | Colorado Rapids (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/colorado) | 30 | 1.07 | 28 | 8 | 14 | 6 | 45 | 54 | -9 | 6-6-2 | 2-8-4 | |||
| 12 | e - Vancouver Whitecaps FC (https://www.mlssoccer.com/meta/club/vancouver) | 27 | 0.9 | 30 | 6 | 15 | 9 | 30 | 53 | -23 | 4-6-4 | 2-9-5 |
94th minute tying goal by the Fire was infuriating. They played better than we did most of the 2nd half, but man I thought the Crew was going to hold on.
...and we have the Dreaded Double Draw in the two-legged Crew-Fire series.
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Crew beat Atlanta.And with the win the Crew still have a 1% chance of making the playoffs.
LAFC clinched the Western Conference, along with a Champions League bid.
NYCFC is beginning to run away with the East, building a five "point" lead over second place Philly with less than a month to go.
Atlanta clinched a playoff spot in defeat due to other scores around the league, and have already clinched a Champions League bid by winning the US Open Cup.
USMNT is brokenWe will probably qualify because the quality in the top 6 of CONCACAF has fell off a cliff, but right now we are worse than 2017-18.
i've never really followed mls much, but with the new franchise in nashville, i'm gonna try picking them up as my team. should be a long season.That's always been my biggest issue with club soccer. Obviously Euro is the higher level, but every "rooting interest" has felt forced, and didn't really stick. My best friend when I was young, had a father who moved here from England, as a life long Aston Villa fan, so I tried that, didn't stick. Lived in London for a summer, in a part of the city that was primarily Chelsea supporters. Tried again, didn't stick. MLS is much worse, and neither Detroit or Pittsburgh have a team, so that's certainly not it.
That's always been my biggest issue with club soccer. Obviously Euro is the higher level, but every "rooting interest" has felt forced, and didn't really stick. My best friend when I was young, had a father who moved here from England, as a life long Aston Villa fan, so I tried that, didn't stick. Lived in London for a summer, in a part of the city that was primarily Chelsea supporters. Tried again, didn't stick. MLS is much worse, and neither Detroit or Pittsburgh have a team, so that's certainly not it.have same feeling with mls and nfl. i've tried picking teams and what not. didn't stick. atl (nfl and mls), titans, greenbay (was a big fan of favre), etc. i had just given up on mls and i just watch nfl to see how bama boys are doing.
If Pittsburgh ever got an MLS team, I'd buy in a little more I think. I've gone to a couple Pittsburgh Riverhounds games. They are fun enough.
Crewsmas is in 5 Days!With the win!
Pittsburgh is probably as strong a candidate to move up as anyone else. It would be cool to be able to claim that you were a fan of a team before they moved up.
With the win!
Concacaf Champions leagueBracket
LAFC collected a Liga MX scalp, overcoming a 2-0 leg 1 loss to defeat Leon 3-0 in leg 2. They get another Mexican squad, Cruz Azul in round 2.
Seattle suffered a round 1 loss to Olympia from Honduras, who will face Montreal in round 2.
The other two round 2 matches are both MLS-Liga MX, with NYCFC-UANL and Atlanta-America.
Gets underway March 10.
Let's go Crew. Great day for the home opener. 17k of my friends showed up to watch a fun/frustrating game.Then played MLS Cup winner Seattle to a 1-1 draw in game 2.
Fun casue the crew dominated the whole match playing a man up.
Frustrating casue they only capitalized on one of the many scoring opportunities.
What do we move into next, if that's even been decided? I know they messed with the WC qualifying format. Did the semi of the Nation's League just get cancelled?I'm starting a GoFundMe to get Yunus Musah to commit to the US.
What do we move into next, if that's even been decided? I know they messed with the WC qualifying format. Did the semi of the Nation's League just get cancelled?the finals got moved to march 2021 then again to june 2021. https://www.concacafnationsleague.com/en/article/concacaf-nations-league-finals-rescheduled-for-june-2021
the world cup in 2022 being in winter is actually turning out to be a good thing, giving more time for qualifying. still hate it though.I'd rather play it in winter than expand it to 48
It will be Columbus vs Seattle for the MLS Cup.I'll be there too.
I'll be there too.
If you want, PM me your seats and I'll swing to say hi.
Announced 2 staters (Santos and Nagbe) for the Crew have Covid-19.
Won another MLS Cup before Austin even has a team...y'all still have same owners? cause that dude doesn't deserve it, but you fans and the team do, so congrats.
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y'all still have same owners? cause that dude doesn't deserve it, but you fans and the team do, so congrats.
Hope all you want, It will be an all Mexican Final.
Hope all you want, It will be an all Mexican Final.
Another successful recruitment for USMNTHuge! I love how the USMNT is shaping up for 22 and more so for 26.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/united-states-usa/story/4328933/valencias-yunus-musah-picks-united-states-over-england
Austin FC play their first official MLS game ever this Saturday. Viva la Verde!Screw the Austin Broccoli's. I hope your owner chokes on his queso fountain.
Hataz gonna hate.Yup, nothing against the players (6 of which are ex-crew.)
This would be massiveAnd...thank goodness that sputtered almost immediately. Talk about not reading the room
https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1383768402091671568?s=19
Yup, nothing against the players (6 of which are ex-crew.)Who would you root for if Austin was playing a game against the Wolverines?
Nothing against the city, it's delightful.
Nothing against the majority of fans, they just want a soccer team (there is a twitter group known as Hipster 6, who took joy in Columbus' agony that I avoid.)
But I do have eternal hate towards the owner who tried for years to sabotage the Crew so he could steal the team and send it to Austin. It amazes me that the Crew was last in corporate sponsorship under Precum, but both Austin and Columbus are now in the top %25 of the league. When he bought the team a no transfer clause was included, he had MLS add an exception for Austin as soon as the sale was final. He let the stadium fall into disarray, he eliminated supporters groups, he ended game day giveaways, and other discounts to attract causal fans. He only attended one game. When the team was on national TV, he shut down gates delaying fan entry to support his narrative that Columbus no longer liked soccer. He claimed there was no sponsorship for the stadium or Jersey's but when that story became public it took less than an hour for Columbus Business Partners to come up with sponsors for both (Mapfre Insurance and Accura.)
So, yes as long as the dirtbag owner has a team I'm gonna hate. And it's a hate that even eclipses my disdain for TTUN.
Who would you root for if Austin was playing a game against the Wolverines?
In this fantasy scenario, does Austin still have Precourt? Cause again, it's nothing against the team or town, just the owner.
In that case, I'd root for the game to get canceled and Precourt would have to repay everyone for wasting our time.
If no Precourt, then I'd prolly root for the 'amateur" team to pull an upset.
OSU used to scrimmage against the Crew and it was super fun to go and watch. I would root for a good match, but usually pull to see something special from the college kids.
Yeah, the teams would have their current make up.
It would be patterned after the Conner Senn Memorial Match that they play every spring, where the Crew take on the Buckeyes.
Only in this scenario you would swap out the Crew for Austin, and you would swap out the Buckeyes with the Wolverines.
If we are going to get screwed by anti-US refs, we might as well flip to UEFA and play good competitionNo doubt. I've said this for years.
Next, maybe work on not playing these games at 9 PM on a Sunday on CBSSN?Chicken and egg... Do you devote primetime major channel resources to a sport that nobody cares about, with an opportunity cost of pushing off programming that might generate higher dollar value today, in an investment in growing the game for the future? Or do you put it on the off channel [where anyone who actually cares already knows how to find it] and know that you're going to reach the die-hards regardless?
You want to grow the game? That was the game to do it. And yet who even knew it was on?
USWNT is playing in Austin in a couple of weeks, we're taking my daughter and niece who are both very into the sport. The USWNT will actually be playing at the new stadium for Austin FC, before the home team ever does.I've always said, ESPN is pushing the wrong women's sports. Volleyball and soccer are just so much better than softball and basketball IMO, as far as the women's game goes.
Chicken and egg... Do you devote primetime major channel resources to a sport that nobody cares about, with an opportunity cost of pushing off programming that might generate higher dollar value today, in an investment in growing the game for the future? Or do you put it on the off channel [where anyone who actually cares already knows how to find it] and know that you're going to reach the die-hards regardless?I was thinking more from a U.S. soccer perspective. CBS acquired all of the CONCACAF national team english language broadcast rights, and slapped them on CBSSN and Paramount+.
That game could have been on ESPN or ABC and I would have tuned to something else. It wouldn't have grown the sport, at least with me. Despite clearly ending up to be an exciting contest.
Yet I record every MotoGP race on NBCSN on DVR because that's what I'm into... Someone else, if MotoGP was on ESPN or ABC, would tune elsewhere, and the sport would be unlikely to grow significantly from that exposure.
Chicken and egg... Do you devote primetime major channel resources to a sport that nobody cares about, with an opportunity cost of pushing off programming that might generate higher dollar value today, in an investment in growing the game for the future? Or do you put it on the off channel [where anyone who actually cares already knows how to find it] and know that you're going to reach the die-hards regardless?disagree. the only thing competing with this game was an absurd wwe-style "boxing" match and wcws softball. this one should have been promoted as a big deal and put on major network. soccer is now just behind bb and baseball as americans favorite sports and it's growing fast. it's also way higher than golf, tennis, boxing, gymnastics and a myriad of other sports that routinely get prime tv spots for their tournaments and finals/major games and events.
That game could have been on ESPN or ABC and I would have tuned to something else. It wouldn't have grown the sport, at least with me. Despite clearly ending up to be an exciting contest.
Yet I record every MotoGP race on NBCSN on DVR because that's what I'm into... Someone else, if MotoGP was on ESPN or ABC, would tune elsewhere, and the sport would be unlikely to grow significantly from that exposure.
I was thinking more from a U.S. soccer perspective. CBS acquired all of the CONCACAF national team english language broadcast rights, and slapped them on CBSSN and Paramount+.i think i read that they'll have 6 matches on paramount+ and 8 on cbssn. but i can't find that source anymore.
CBS' sports network has less traction than the other major networks' (ESPN, FS1, NBCSN), and you get very little cross promotion. I'm just not sure taking the short term larger payout (granted I don't know what the other bids were) is worth the limited exposure.
And selfishly, as someone who loves international soccer, I hope all of these WC qualifiers and Gold Cup games, aren't relegated to Paramount+
Considering the lineup they rolled out there, tonight may have even been more impressive. They just beat the third best team in concacaf by four goals, with a bunch of kidsYup, that was fun to watch.
Really concerning situation for Denmark right now...
Sounding like cardiac arrest. Game suspended.Reports are he's in stable condition now. I was very worried he had died.
Been having a blast watching the Euros, outside of that. Getting all my World Cup feels up. Today was near perfect weather wise, we got the pool finally filled, and the kids had fun while I had the games on. I wish pro sports would take the hint that it's ok to have games at times other than 9 pm.The Euros are great.
What are they doing with the old one?
First soccer specific stadium in the US.
Nice. I remember when the Columbus Clippers moved into a new ballpark, they said that they were going to put a dirt track in the old one. But instead of doing that, they allowed it to fall into a tremendous state of disrepair.There's a giant hole in Ann Arbor that has been needed to get filled in for nearly a century
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I do like the continental championships, but I wish the WC qualifying was more of a global event. Then you wouldn't need this dipshit finals format now, and the entire qualifying process would allow for meaningful international competition during the entire cycle.So you keep the World Cup every 4 years, and lets call that Year 0. In Year 2 you have the continental championships.
Man, Frenchies go down. I was rooting for Switzerland, but dag it is fun watching Pogba and MbappeThey seemed fairly listless this entire tournament. The US earning a draw with the Swiss prior to this tournament, is certainly playing a lot better right now
Nice. I remember when the Columbus Clippers moved into a new ballpark, they said that they were going to put a dirt track in the old one. But instead of doing that, they allowed it to fall into a tremendous state of disrepair.
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H3LL yah it is!
Up next? Cincy...
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England 15 minutes awayThe Euros are just the appetizer for the Gold Cup starting this weekend
The Euros are just the appetizer for the Gold Cup starting this weekendHeh... I guess that's one way of putting it. :)
well i guess i'm late but it's been a great summer for soccer.USMNT seems to finally have direction.
USMNT seems to finally have direction.Gagreed.
USWNT looks old
finally starting next cycle. hopefully we can exercise some demons tonight.Yep! Loving the condensed format. Opening tonight against El Salvador, with a game on Sunday against Canada, and I think our third game is next week? No pulisic is a bit of a bummer
great sports weekend, btw.
Nice work from Aaronson from the steal to the goal to open the scoring for the US. Definitely a game where 3 points are needed.Yup gotta get three right now. Hope to see Puly score here soon, as well.
Not that Canada deserves it, but whenever we play the Central American countries, I wish we'd let our supporters force us to use armed guards.I'd like to see us abandon CONCACAF and join UEFA.
Or dissolve the continental confederations?
I'd like to see us abandon CONCACAF and join UEFA.On one hand yes, but on the other hand, travel disadvantage. I put forth my plan for a World Cup qualifier that is a 3 year process, and dissolves the confederations.
On one hand yes, but on the other hand, travel disadvantage. I put forth my plan for a World Cup qualifier that is a 3 year process, and dissolves the confederations.
We're the USA, we can manage the travel.Oh agreed, that will never happen
Not that abandoning CONCACAF is likely, but I'd say it's more likely than dissolving the confederations. Those organizations exist on graft and corruption and I don't see them ever changing or relinquishing power.
wcq window 2. need minimum 6 points here. sucks pulisic and reyna are both out. good to see mckinnie back, hopefully he can stay focused this time. and maybe pepi and antonee robinson can solidify the 2 weakest spots on our roster.This Jamaican group hasn't looked as good as the last two cycles. Need the home W today. Agreed on the 6 points. We open window 2 at Jamaica and then vs. Mexico, so don't want to enter November in must win situations.
jamaica tonight. predictions? i'll go 2-nil usa.
agreed. that's probably the most complete game we've played in 3 years. just looked pretty solid to really good from start to finish.The second one was at least close. The first one wasn't
those missed calls were bad. real bad.
Tanzania, which has only qualified for 2 African Nations Cups, is now one win (probably) away from getting to the final round of World Cup qualifications. Another reason I hate the expanded World Cups, the qualifying rounds are fun, if you pay attention. And streaming, most of these games are now accessible.where and when do you stream the african games? i watch a few euro and sa matches from time to time, but that's all i can find usually.
where and when do you stream the african games? i watch a few euro and sa matches from time to time, but that's all i can find usually.ESPN+
Apparently Greg Berhalter thinks a team that didn't qualify for the WC last cycle, can qualify with a B squad this time?Probably, because CONCACAF is just really really bad these days.
Tanzania, which has only qualified for 2 African Nations Cups, is now one win (probably) away from getting to the final round of World Cup qualifications. Another reason I hate the expanded World Cups, the qualifying rounds are fun, if you pay attention. And streaming, most of these games are now accessible.ANC is arguably the hardest confed to qualify. 1 bad day and you are really screwed. Even in this new format its rough where the 3rd round is easier for the best clubs, you are shuttled into a playoff against what's probably a good team.
Probably, because CONCACAF is just really really bad these days.It's worse than the number of bids it gets, but that has always been the case. On the whole, I actually think it is stronger than it has ever been in that #3-#8 range
ESPN+i have both of those. guess i'm not looking at right times.
To add, ESPN+ has Europe and Africa. Paramount+ (which I don't have) has Asia.
CONCACAF and CONMEBOL are all over the place, seems like nobody has the entire federation rights here.
got the 6 points. unfortunately gave a competitor for our spot 3 too. our core/best players are all so young, probably going to be like this rest of way. inconsistent. next window will be a big one.Just 2 games. Home against Mexico, road at Jamaica. Big yikes.
Looks like USMNT is going to be at full health for this next cycle, which is going to go a long way towards whether they qualify. Home match vs. Mexico, then playing a down Jamaica squad, which has been solid for the past 8 or so years, in Kingston. Need to get 4 points here.still missing reyna to injury and pulisic is just back from injury with very little game action prior to the break. he could be rusty still. also, dest was a late scrap with minor back issues. and brooks not called in but for form not injury.
2022 Concacaf Champions LeagueTwo more MLS spots were settled today, in red; Colorado and Seattle.
The entire field has been finalized, other than the MLS
Caribbean
- Cavalry (Haiti)
Central America
- Saprissa (Costa Rica)
- Santos De Guapiles (Costa Rica)
- Guastatoya (Guatemala)
- Comunicaciones (Guatemala)
- Motagua (Honduras)
North America
Mexico
- Leon
- Cruz Azul
- UNAM
- Santos Laguna
Canada
- Forge FC (CPL)
- Voyageurs Cup: Toronto-Montreal winner
USA
- Supporters Shield: New England Revolution
- MLS Cup:
- West Champion: Colorado Rapids
US Open CupHighest Remaining: Seattle Sounders
There are going to be some damn good squads in the UEFA playoff. Italy does not get the necessary resultitaly, portugal, sweden, wales, poland, ukraine, czeck, austria, russia all top 35 fifa rankings.
Champions League is only concerned with what country the clubs are in, not the Nationality of the players.Right, but most leagues have all of their teams in their county. It's kind of weird to have MLS teams in Canada. Like if the EPL had one Scottish team, I imagine that club would always qualify for UEFA Champions League as the Scottish rep. I would assume it would be league based, not country the team happens to be located in based.
MLS players come from all over the place.
Right, but most leagues have all of their teams in their county. It's kind of weird to have MLS teams in Canada. Like if the EPL had one Scottish team, I imagine that club would always qualify for UEFA Champions League as the Scottish rep. I would assume it would be league based, not country the team happens to be located in based.epl has had a few welsh clubs before. in fact the efl has several welsh and scottish teams currently, though all below epl level. and some in reverse for those countries too. and in 08, cardiff city played in the fa cup final which comes with uefa qualification. they changed the rules to allow for welsh teams to qualify through the efl. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/cardiff_city/7350681.stm
Is it arbitrary who winds up playing for the Canadian clubs, considering it's all the same league? Do they have first shot at eligible Canadians?BTW, FWIW, I did read that the Canadian MLS teams are each required to start three Canadian players throughout the Canadian Tournament.
el salvado tonight. 7/6ct on espn2. need 3 points and it'd be nice not to struggle for it. gonna be cold, maybe a good warm up for the frigid temps expected sunday @ canada.Well, it was frustrating, but mainly because El Salvador did not play like a team that needed 3 to keep any slight hopes alive. Couple of late injuries are of concern, and now we have to go play on artificial turf in freezing conditions.
I watched it en espanol on Telemundo so at least it sounded exciting.Same. Not sure the Paramount+ move is working to sell American soccer
Same. Not sure the Paramount+ move is working to sell American soccerI feel like "selling American soccer" is similar to "selling Beyond Meat". There's a certain market that's receptive and will seek it out. The rest DGAF and won't.
well, tonight is a big one. and for some dumbass reason we decided to play on literally the coldest night of any wcq anywhere this cycle, not just concacaf either.Can't think of a better way to make the Honduran players uncomfortable to be honest. Granted if we need gamesmanship tonight, we have bigger problems
Can't think of a better way to make the Honduran players uncomfortable to be honest. Granted if we need gamesmanship tonight, we have bigger problemscold and windy? sure. near zero temps with -25-30 wind chills? that's a little absurd.
I hear Pluto United has a pretty good side this year.psh, they're not even a major planetary league anymore.
How does one player tally three own goals in a half?i usually don't feel to bad for players and teams having bad games. it happens to everyone and it's something to learn from.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/united-states-usaw/story/4598762/what-the-uswnt-learned-from-new-zealand-win-despite-meikayla-moores-3-own-goals?platform=amp
Concacaf Champions Leagueqtr finals leg 1 (home vs away)
MLS and Liga MX each lost one team in the opening round. The MLS took the lone head to head match up between the two leagues, but it was Montreal so that really doesn't help the US. NYC and Seattle obliterated their opponents, and New England got a free pass to the next round. Colorado was the lone blemish for the MLS, losing on penalty kicks to a Guatemalan team; Comunicaciones. Comunicaciones is thus the Cinderella as the lone team outside of MLS and Liga MX to make it out of the first round alive. Next they get MLS Cup Champion NYC. The other three quarterfinal matches are MLS vs Liga MX.
The Quarterfinals will be March 8-17.
mls starts saturday. i've tried a couple times before to get into mls. first was with ne revolution, but something just didn't click. second was with atl united, which was fun but i picked up right after the 18 cup win and it just felt like bandwagoning and i didn't stick with it.
gonna give one more try and with another new team. nashville fc. i have family from nashville, so there is at least some connection. they're competitive, but i don't feel like i'm jumping on after they've been a major success. and it's close enough for me to maybe go to a match or 2 if i want. we'll see if i can keep with this one.
i also follow bham legion in usl, and have from the start. it's been really fun and last season was a blast.
So? Dantonio spent two seasons winning games 4-0
Not only are the Crew undefeated, but they are also winning each game by an average of 4 goals.
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qtr finals leg 1 (home vs away)
nyc vs comunicaciones
seattle vs leon
new england vs pumas unam
cruz azul vs montreal
so, usmnt has some ho-hum games coming up. anyone interested in watching? probably nothing of consequence will happen.With the injuries, I'd focus on the next two
imo, we should go for the win at the azteca. i would 100% be on board with this if we had mckinnie, that's only thing giving me pause. but how awesome would it be to clinch wc qualification with the first ever win at the azteca? especially since this will likely be the last wcq that matters for at least 6-7 years, and maybe ever with the expanded wc format. i want that damn win.
but holy crap all the injuries. turner, aaronson, mckinnie, richards, dest... that's a solid group. throw in brooks and whatever is going on with him, that's a very solid core to build a team around.
outside of a win at azteca, beat panama and it's all but done deal. no excuse not to do that, but then again there was no excuse not to throttle t&t last cycle either.
Not terrible.iran beat morroco in 2018 wc. other than that, yes.
Did we give Iran their only ever WC win in 1998?
Concacaf Champions LeagueUNAM and Seattle both won their first leg.
You have the semifinals this week and next, with the Liga MX side going on Tuesdays and the MLS side going on Wednesdays.
- MLS: Seattle-NYC
- Liga MX: UNAM-Cruz Azul
NYC and Cruz Azul would be the most "determines a true champion" Finals match up, in that they each won their league. UNAM and Seattle both squeaked in as non-champions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_CONCACAF_Champions_League#Semi-finals
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UNAM and Seattle both won their first leg.
US Open CupUS Open Cup
The league breakdown for round 3
Tier 1
- MLS: 17 worst teams according to 2021 standings (the top 8 teams have another bye)
Tier 2
- USL: 15 teams
Tier 3
- USL1: 8 teams
- NISA: 4 teams
- MLS Next Pro: both teams (Rochester Rhinos and St Louis City SC 2)
Tier 4
- USL2: 1 team (North Carolina Fusion)
- NPSL: 1 team (FC Motown)
Amateur Teams
- None
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_U.S._Open_Cup#Third_Round_Matches
April 19-21
Not only are the Crew undefeated, but they are also winning each game by an average of 4 goals.
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Canadian Voyageurs Cup
The US Open Cup's little brother gets underway also on Tue and Wed, May 10-11.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Canadian_Championship#Bracket
The only MLS team playing in the opening round is the Vancouver Whitecaps, who are dead last in the MLS. They get Valour, a CPL team out of Winnipeg MB.
US Open CupThere were no sub-MLS upsets of MLS teams this round, but a trio of sub-MLS teams will advance to the Sweet 16 by having not had to play an MLS team this round. Louisville beat Detroit Rock City on penalty kicks. Sacramento Republic defeated Phoenix Rising. Union Omaha got the best of Northern Colorado.
Round of 32 gets underway on Tue and Wed, May 10-11.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_U.S._Open_Cup#Round_of_32
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This game was off the charts. Ridiculous weak penalties called, and ridiculous goals called back for imaginary off sides.
Nashville had a huge comeback win vs Atlanta in the lone MLS East vs West match up.
Caribbean Cup
In the meantime you have the major Caribbean Club tournament with the group stage this weekend and the semifinals next week. The three countries with Tier 1 leagues, Jamaica, Haiti and the DR each submit 2 clubs to this thing, a champion and a runner up. The three champions will be grouped together in "Group A" while the three runners up will be grouped together in "Group B." The top two teams from each "Group" will advance to the semifinals.
The four teams that make the semifinals will each be guaranteed at least one more game on the international circuit beyond this tournament.
- The Caribbean Cup champion will qualify directly to champions league.
- The Caribbean Zone also gets three bids to the Concacaf League qualification tournament with the Central American teams.
- The runner up gets the first and most favorable Concacaf League bid as it includes a first round bye, which means they only have to win one game to have a pretty good shot at a champions league bid, or two games to clinch it.
- The winner of the consolation game gets the second Caribbean bid to the Concacaf League qualification tournament. No first round bye.
- The loser of the Consolation game will play a one game playoff against the Caribbean Shield winner, which was Bayamon out of Puerto Rico, and the winner of that game will get the third and final Caribbean bid to the Concacaf League qualifying tournament. Also no first round bye.
These Nations Leagues are dumb. I wish they replaced them with zone free qualification tournaments for the World Cup. Make it a 4 year window thing, with the actual World Cup actually being just the finals. Keep your continental champions, your Euros, your Gold cups, etc., but get rid of friendlies and these stupid Nations Leagues, and replace them all with "World Cup" gamesThe USA played a better lineup in a friendly, then they did in their their nations league opener tonight, which they still won 5-0. Replacing friendlies with "meaningful" games doesn't mean anything if those meaningful games are against shjtty CONCACAF nations
CONCACAF U20s going on as well, which also serve as an Olympic qualifying event. The two finalists qualify for Paris 2024, which is a nice chance for the next wave to play on a world stage, and against the elite. I believe each nation is allowed 3 senior team members.USA won the event. After never winning a CONCACAF U20 previously, they've now won the past 3 in a row. Hopefully that's a referendum on the future of the USMNT
USA won their group, to advance to the knockout stage. They did not qualify for the Tokyo games
US Open CupSoccer Spygate pays off for Orlando!
The USL was thwarted in their attempt to get a champions league bid for just the second time in their history. The 1999 Rochester Rhinos will be partying like the 72 Dolphins do whenever the last undefeated team goes down. Orlando wins 3-0.
Once the second leg of the Concacaf League quarterfinal round wraps up next week, the entire 2023 champions league field will be set except for the final three US bids, which will go to the MLS Cup winner as well as the top team in each conference in the final regular season standings.
that game had the most stoppage time i've ever seen. +14 in first half and +10 second.Seems to be an ongoing thing
so the ref adding stoppage time to the stoppage time announced is a new wrinkle? Was this known? customary? seems to have surprised the announcers and the guy on Wales when asked about it post-match.stoppage time is a minimum added time. if something happens in stoppage time, like an injury or long var review, the ref has discretion to add more time.
France didn't look great until they fell behind, then they seemed to wake upThey dominated 80 minutes of play, and Australia was lucky France only scored 4. They could have easily had 6 or 7. And even in those first 10 minutes, France had a couple of solid chances. I'm interested to see how Brazil, Belgium, and to a lesser extent, Germany and Spain look. But France looked on a whole other level to me today, even above England
Qatar befitting of its role as Chaminade. No UVA equivalent however.Once they go to 48, they'll probably qualify anyway because that is going to be a joke of a tournament
The Morocco goalie was nails in the shootout.He made himself some money. He's on loan to Sevilla now
Is he? He was clutch in that game today. Don't think Brazil's failure to pack the defending third at the end is on him.Brazil is now going on 24 years without a title, despite him being surrounded by penty of talent. He won one champion league, thanks to Messi.
Then yes, he's fine there. I frequently see him lumped in with Messi and RonaldoAgree, I hear people putting him into the same category as Messi and Ronaldo.
Neymar is the most overrated player of this generationHe's too busy flopping around with a fake injury to care.
And now it seems like Qatar may have murdered an American journalist for wearing a rainbow shirt? Sports washing can apparently only go so far in these ass backwards countriesThis is so tragic and bizarre. And infuriating if it is, what it seems to be.
He made himself some money. He's on loan to Sevilla nowBono Guardameta was nails again in the quarters today.
He's too busy flopping around with a fake injury to care.It may seem silly, but I think this is why soccer will never break into the top 3 of professional sports in the U.S.
[img width=500 height=466.992]https://preview.redd.it/2023-ccl-bracket-v0-plozk179tmy91.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a81b8771d306be5cc9588434e08e4b67f0370745[/img]Austin and Orlando both lost, but the other three MLS teams advance to the quarterfinal round. All three are on the same side of the bracket, with LA playing the Whitecaps.
Austin and Orlando both lost, but the other three MLS teams advance to the quarterfinal round. All three are on the same side of the bracket, with LA playing the Whitecaps.Wait, I thought the season just started?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_CONCACAF_Champions_League#Bracket
nations league starts tomorrow, and we start another cycle without a manager. nice.No better way to elevate the national team than to have them play "meaningful" matches against El Salvador and Granada without a manager
at least the rumors for players is good again. balogun might be spurning england in favor of us.
It did.
Champions League is underway as well.
Then next week the US Open Cup gets going too.
It's a madhouse.
No better way to elevate the national team than to have them play "meaningful" matches against El Salvador and Granada without a manager
Crew play Riverhounds this This Wednesday in the round of 16th for the Open Cup.:67:
i'm beginning to think messi is just a really good player and not just a product of a system. probably in top 100, maybe top 50 all time.
Trolling? Messi has now won 44 trophies in his 19 year career. (38 for Club including Leagues Cup this month for Miami, and 6 for country including a world cup las year.) He is the GOAT.trolling? no. sarcastic? yeah.
That's like saying Jordan is top 100 for the NBA. Everyone will just laugh at such a statment.
usmnt roster for upcoming nations league games vs t and t. also copa america qualifying. pulisic and weah both out with injuries. otherwise, looks solid. like some of the young guys given a chance with pulisic and weah out.Those late goals to push it from 0-0 to 3-0 make tonight's game way less stressful.
GOALKEEPERS (3): Ethan Horvath (Nottingham Forest/ENG; 9/0), Gaga Slonina (KAS Eupen/BEL; 1/0), Matt Turner (Nottingham Forest/ENG; 35/0)
DEFENDERS (8): Cameron Carter-Vickers (Celtic/SCO; 14/0), Sergiño Dest (PSV Eindhoven/NED; 30/2), Kristoffer Lund (Palermo/ITA; 3/0), Tim Ream (Fulham/ENG; 53/1), Chris Richards (Crystal Palace/ENG; 14/1), Antonee Robinson (Fulham/ENG; 37/2), Miles Robinson (Atlanta United; 27/3), Joe Scally (Borussia Mönchengladbach/GER; 7/0)
MIDFIELDERS (8): Paxten Aaronson (Eintracht Frankfurt/GER; 1/0), Johnny Cardoso (Internacional/BRA; 9/0), Luca de la Torre (Celta Vigo/ESP; 19/0), Lennard Maloney (Heidenheim/GER; 1/0), Weston McKennie (Juventus/ITA; 48/11), Yunus Musah (AC Milan/ITA; 31/0), Gio Reyna (Borussia Dortmund/GER; 22/6), Malik Tillman (PSV Eindhoven/NED; 6/0)
FORWARDS (5): Brenden Aaronson (Union Berlin/GER; 36/8), Folarin Balogun (Monaco/FRA; 6/3), Kevin Paredes (Wolfsburg/GER; 2/0), Ricardo Pepi (PSV Eindhoven/NED; 20/9), Alex Zendejas (Club América/MEX; 7/1)
Nebraska is a soccer school.could be with a couple more wins
Crew defeats LA 2-1 in the MLS Cup.H3ll yah they did. It was a great game, great atmosphere, great time.
Agreed, but they still went up 1-0 down a man. And Panama wasn't getting much pressure, and we went way too conservative, playing for a draw, anyway, which allowed them their 2nd goalAgree on all counts. The strategy was bad which led to some confusion and poor execution, and then letting them get to us to the point of an open punch and a red card... just, inexcusable.
Central American teams are well-known to do weird shit like stick their thumbs in an opponent's butt, grab opponents' balls, that kind of thing.It just means more
It's not our sport. Never will be.Sure it will. After American football completely implodes in another decade or so, there will be a vacuum for athletic on-field sports. Basketball and baseball aren't going to expand to fill that gap.