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The Power Four => Big Ten => Topic started by: betarhoalphadelta on June 01, 2026, 01:39:10 PM
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Ok... So this is stuff that doesn't elevate in your life to the level of "Grumpy Old Man"...
Just the things that you see other people do and you get annoyed. Things on the level of seeing people type "should of" on the internet instead of "should have".
For me...
People who quote times as EST or PST when we're on daylight savings time. They clearly don't know what the "S" means and just do it because they see other people use it. (Note: I rarely see anyone use EDT/PDT incorrectly--anyone who uses those know what the character means.)
Why is it a pet peeve? Because not only is it incorrect, it's unnecessary! You could easily use just ET or PT and not actually reference standard or daylight time. The only states in the US that don't observe DST are Arizona and Hawaii, and I'm sure people in those states are used to the fact that they need to pay attention to this. For the rest of us, we're all on a level playing field.
So it actually takes people more effort to be wrong than to be simple and correct by omitting the character.
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this topic should be worth at least 5,000,000,000,000 pages
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And that's probably just from Badge...
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When folks are going to move into the dedicated left-turn/center lane, but begin slowing down significantly in the normal lane, impeding traffic behind them. Just get over into the center lane and then begin slowing down.
I mean, if there are already vehicles or some other obstruction in the center lane, I get it. But when it's completely clear for miles and miles?
Definite pet peeve territory.
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And that's probably just from Badge...
I do have a lot of them. I'll give you that.
Here's one.
People (including my wife) eating something straight out of a bag that is supposed to be communal.
Like, did you wash your hands after you took that shit? After you pet the f'ing dog (more on dogs later)? After you burped your baby (more on babies later)? After you picked up that penny (that God they are being phased out)?
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When folks are going to move into the dedicated left-turn/center lane, but begin slowing down significantly in the normal lane, impeding traffic behind them. Just get over into the center lane and then begin slowing down.
I mean, if there are already vehicles or some other obstruction in the center lane, I get it. But when it's completely clear for miles and miles?
Definite pet peeve territory.
Don't forget the asshole who passes you, only to make a right turn in 100 feet.
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Things on the level of seeing people type "should of" on the internet instead of "should have".
Seeing people place periods outside of quotation marks. :d030:
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Seeing people place periods outside of quotation marks. :d030:
Now I need to check myself on this one.
I thought that @betarhoalphadelta (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=19) 's usage was correct.
My understanding is:
- The punctuation belongs inside the quotation marks if it belongs with the quote and
- The punctuation belongs outside the quotation marks if it belongs with the combined quoted and non-quoted thought.
So in this example ( @betarhoalphadelta (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=19) 's OP starting this thread) the quote "should have" is NOT a complete sentence and thus shouldn't have it's own punctuation. Instead, the period at the end of the full sentence belongs to the full sentence and does NOT belong inside the quotation marks.
Am I wrong on this?
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That's the rule for question marks and exclamation points.
Periods and commas always go inside the quotation marks.
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That's the rule for question marks and exclamation points.
Periods and commas always go inside the quotation marks.
Ok, so if someone incorrectly used "should of" instead of "should have" my response could be:
- Shouldn't he have used "should have"? Or
- He should have used "should have." Or
- I hate when people use "should of"!
Do I have that right?
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Correct.
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Real pet peeve: people who don’t use the center turning lanes and instead wait to be able to make the full turn and slow things down. They give you the center lane so it a two-step process. And that makes it go faster.
The PST thing is funny to me. If only because ET and PT are a movie and a way to recover from injuries. like I understand, it’s wrong, but it just communicate it for some reason
I think there was a time that I was slightly annoyed at people abusing the emotional support thing to take dogs on planes, but then I realized I truly don’t give a shit about what almost any of my fellow passengers are doing. Not to bring up the bad times, but I remember chuckling at an older gentleman in his Navy veteran hat who had cut open the mask he was required to wear.
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Seeing people place periods outside of quotation marks. :d030:
That's fair.
However, this was not done out of ignorance. There are certain grammatical rules that I find stupid, and choose to violate them. This would be one.
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That's fair.
However, this was not done out of ignorance. There are certain grammatical rules that I find stupid, and choose to violate them. This would be one.
I'm with you on that, and I believe we are smarter than those who make the rules.
So, F them.
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That's fair.
However, this was not done out of ignorance. There are certain grammatical rules that I find stupid, and choose to violate them. This would be one.
I'm with you on that, and I believe we are smarter than those who make the rules.
So, F them.
Heresy. You advocate for anarchy!
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The PST thing is funny to me. If only because ET and PT are a movie and a way to recover from injuries. like I understand, it’s wrong, but it just communicate it for some reason
Well, in context it doesn't cause confusion to leave the S or D out...
I.e. if I'm scheduling a meeting and I tell someone it's scheduled for June 2, 9:30 AM PT. They know what that means. I don't need to specify it's on daylight time because that's implied when they know the date of the meeting. Nationally, we all (except AZ/HI) make the transition based on the calendar. So you know if it's a January meeting it's standard time, and if it's a June meeting it's daylight savings time.
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Heresy. You advocate for anarchy!
Don't threaten me with a good time!
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Ok... So this is stuff that doesn't elevate in your life to the level of "Grumpy Old Man"...
Just the things that you see other people do and you get annoyed. Things on the level of seeing people type "should of" on the internet instead of "should have".
For me...
People who quote times as EST or PST when we're on daylight savings time. They clearly don't know what the "S" means and just do it because they see other people use it. (Note: I rarely see anyone use EDT/PDT incorrectly--anyone who uses those know what the character means.)
Why is it a pet peeve? Because not only is it incorrect, it's unnecessary! You could easily use just ET or PT and not actually reference standard or daylight time. The only states in the US that don't observe DST are Arizona and Hawaii, and I'm sure people in those states are used to the fact that they need to pay attention to this. For the rest of us, we're all on a level playing field.
So it actually takes people more effort to be wrong than to be simple and correct by omitting the character.
How weird....I just learned about that earlier this morning. I had to sign up for a seminar and it listed CDT time. I don't think I've used them incorrectly--that I know of--but I realized sometimes I see CST and sometimes CDT, and I wondered what's the difference. You're right, it's totally unnecessary.
As far as a pet peeve.....people writing/saying "supposably" when they mean "supposedly" comes to mind. I see/hear that a lot and it irks me. I think we covered "irregardless" in another thread.
Also, this website is moving really slow since I logged in yesterday for the first time in a week. Slow, glitchy websites are a pet peeve. How can I effectively goof off at work if cfb51 is moving slow? Is that happening for anyone else, or just me?
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Also, this website is moving really slow since I logged in yesterday for the first time in a week. Slow, glitchy websites are a pet peeve. How can I effectively goof off at work if cfb51 is moving slow? Is that happening for anyone else, or just me?
Me as well.
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We are under attack by 50K bots right now.
We a lucky to have @Drew4UTk (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1) working on it.
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I like being able to pet dogs in grocery stores and restaurants. I know most of them aren't really service animals, that's a scam often as not. I'll see 4-5 dogs at our Kroger and I pet them all, usually pulling off gobs of fur. My wife is not so much a fan as I.
Same at restaurants.
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We are under attack by 50K bots right now.
We a lucky to have @Drew4UTk (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1) working on it.
Bots and bot attacks are probably more of a Grumpy thing for me than a pet peeve.
One of the SAS products I use to implement our projects at work has recently been discovered by spam-bots. There's a setting that can be tweaked to help that, but it's not universal. So currently we're having to go through every workflow across campus we've built or have access to, and enable it.
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folks that ride bicycles with the seat much too low
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Windshield washing at gas stations / truck stops
Squeegee and Sponge Scrubbers worn out or missing
water in the bucket missing, filthy, stinky, or too much soap
paper towels missing
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Seeing people place periods outside of quotation marks. :d030:
"You're absolutely right BB"!!!
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So... Coworker sent out an email (multiple people, including one of our distributors) asking if I was available on Monday 7/20 at 11:30 AM PST for disty sales training..
I didn't poke a sharp stick in their eye. I just replied... "I'm good for Monday 11:30 AM PDT."
The distributor didn't pick up on this and said "Great, we're confirmed for Monday 11:30 AM PST!"
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lighten up Francis
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So... Coworker sent out an email (multiple people, including one of our distributors) asking if I was available on Monday 7/20 at 11:30 AM PST for disty sales training..
I didn't poke a sharp stick in their eye. I just replied... "I'm good for Monday 11:30 AM PDT."
The distributor didn't pick up on this and said "Great, we're confirmed for Monday 11:30 AM PST!"
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For some of us is makes a difference. I am on MST all year never on MDT
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For some of us is makes a difference. I am on MST all year never on MDT
Yes, which is why it's important for someone to get it right.
If someone in Colorado is arranging a phone call with you in Arizona, and they mistakenly use MST while they're on MDT in their planning because they don't know the difference, that phone call will occur an hour off expectation for at least one of you...
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As if anyone in Colorado is going to call someone in Arizona. :D
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it's a clock
not complex
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First day of work at school on the Navajo Rez.
No problem, I'd worked in Phoenix the year before, no time changing. No big deal.
Get up, going in 45 min early, bright-eye and bushy-tailed.
15 minutes late.
Fuck.
Through all the process of interviewing, getting hired, signing everything, getting housing, etc.....not one word about the reservation having daylight savings time.
And then, years later, I learn the Hopi reservation, which is entirely inside of the Navajo rez....does not have it!
Madness, I tell you.
And so with all of that, for half the year, it doesn't even matter!
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One of the things we needed to have replaced by our landlord a while back was our dishwasher. It's nicer, and instead of being white, it's stainless/black and with the replaced oven and microwave (and our stainless fridge and stainless/black wine fridge), everything is cohesive.
But...
The previous dishwasher had a physical latch to lock it closed. So everyone in the house knew whether the dishwasher was clean or dirty. If the latch was locked, it meant the dishwasher had been run.
The new one doesn't have this. It has a little light that comes on after it's clean that stays on so you know that it has been run and it's clean.
Well, nobody in the house [except me] seemed to understand what that light meant. So nobody in the house [except me] knew if it was clean.
So my wife decided to get a magnet. On one side of the magnet it says "Clean" on one side, and "Dirty" on the other (the two sides being contrasting colors to make it even more obvious).
Easy, right? Now everyone always knows if it's clean or dirty!
Err, no. It seems that I'm the only one that's diligent enough to remember to flip the magnet each time. Or even to look at it... My wife put a dirty coffee mug in this morning despite the fact that the little blue light AND the big white magnet were both signifying that the dishwasher was clean.
Annoying. We have two different mechanisms to help people figure this out, and yet we still have this issue.
I know, I know... It's a little thing. But that's why it's in this thread.
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One of the things we needed to have replaced by our landlord a while back was our dishwasher. It's nicer, and instead of being white, it's stainless/black and with the replaced oven and microwave (and our stainless fridge and stainless/black wine fridge), everything is cohesive.
But...
The previous dishwasher had a physical latch to lock it closed. So everyone in the house knew whether the dishwasher was clean or dirty. If the latch was locked, it meant the dishwasher had been run.
The new one doesn't have this. It has a little light that comes on after it's clean that stays on so you know that it has been run and it's clean.
Well, nobody in the house [except me] seemed to understand what that light meant. So nobody in the house [except me] knew if it was clean.
So my wife decided to get a magnet. On one side of the magnet it says "Clean" on one side, and "Dirty" on the other (the two sides being contrasting colors to make it even more obvious).
Easy, right? Now everyone always knows if it's clean or dirty!
Err, no. It seems that I'm the only one that's diligent enough to remember to flip the magnet each time. Or even to look at it... My wife put a dirty coffee mug in this morning despite the fact that the little blue light AND the big white magnet were both signifying that the dishwasher was clean.
Annoying. We have two different mechanisms to help people figure this out, and yet we still have this issue.
I know, I know... It's a little thing. But that's why it's in this thread.
I disagree with that last sentence. That is effing infuriating.
Like, I’m not good at much, but I’m good at asking the other person in my house “clean right?” (she also got a slider, and now it’s easy.)
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Err, no. It seems that I'm the only one that's diligent enough to remember to flip the magnet each time. Or even to look at it... My wife put a dirty coffee mug in this morning despite the fact that the little blue light AND the big white magnet were both signifying that the dishwasher was clean.
Annoying. We have two different mechanisms to help people figure this out, and yet we still have this issue.
I know, I know... It's a little thing. But that's why it's in this thread.
well don't forget to flip the magnet,what are they herding cats in cali?
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First day of work at school on the Navajo Rez.
No problem, I'd worked in Phoenix the year before, no time changing. No big deal.
Get up, going in 45 min early, bright-eye and bushy-tailed.
15 minutes late.
Fuck.
Through all the process of interviewing, getting hired, signing everything, getting housing, etc.....not one word about the reservation having daylight savings time.
And then, years later, I learn the Hopi reservation, which is entirely inside of the Navajo rez....does not have it!
Madness, I tell you.
And so with all of that, for half the year, it doesn't even matter!
What was your favorite part of the Hopi reservation?
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well don't forget to flip the magnet,what are they herding cats in cali?
I just forgot that 10 minutes ago. Damn.
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One of the things we needed to have replaced by our landlord a while back was our dishwasher. It's nicer, and instead of being white, it's stainless/black and with the replaced oven and microwave (and our stainless fridge and stainless/black wine fridge), everything is cohesive.
But...
The previous dishwasher had a physical latch to lock it closed. So everyone in the house knew whether the dishwasher was clean or dirty. If the latch was locked, it meant the dishwasher had been run.
The new one doesn't have this. It has a little light that comes on after it's clean that stays on so you know that it has been run and it's clean.
Well, nobody in the house [except me] seemed to understand what that light meant. So nobody in the house [except me] knew if it was clean.
So my wife decided to get a magnet. On one side of the magnet it says "Clean" on one side, and "Dirty" on the other (the two sides being contrasting colors to make it even more obvious).
Easy, right? Now everyone always knows if it's clean or dirty!
Err, no. It seems that I'm the only one that's diligent enough to remember to flip the magnet each time. Or even to look at it... My wife put a dirty coffee mug in this morning despite the fact that the little blue light AND the big white magnet were both signifying that the dishwasher was clean.
Annoying. We have two different mechanisms to help people figure this out, and yet we still have this issue.
I know, I know... It's a little thing. But that's why it's in this thread.
Ours also has a little green light to signify the dishes are clean. In our case, it's even way more obvious because we always have a lot of Tupperware containers in there, and for whatever reason, they don't dry out like the other dishes in the drying cycle. They retain water in their crevices, but also, they just have water beads all over their flat surfaces, even though the dishes and the silverware dry nicely. It's really obvious.....if the Tupperware is drowning in water, everything is clean. If not, it hasn't run yet.
Still, my engineering grad stepson who works as an engineer, somehow, leaves his dishes in the sink constantly, citing that he didn't know if they were clean or not. Hint: if everything is bone dry and the dishwasher is half full.....we didn't run it.
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The dishwasher pet peeve is a good one.
Nothing chaps my hide more than dirty dishes left in the sink, however.
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living alone has its perks
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It really irks me when drivers zoom beside me, engine gunning, like I'm some grandpa who's not going 8-10 mph over the speed limit, and then proceed to change lanes to get in front of me and then slow down a good 10 mph slower than I was driving. Idiots.
It irks me worse when they do it by passing me on a one-lane highway.
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Oh I just thought of a verbal pet peeve.
When folks say, "I seen it" instead of "I saw it."
Ugh.
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brutal - I cringe
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What was your favorite part of the Hopi reservation?
Didn't really have a favorite part, it's tiny and I just drove through it, going to or returning from Flagstaff.
There was a little place with a restaurant and some shops that was a good bathroom stop between Flagstaff and where I lived on the Navajo Rez.
I forget what it's called. Been 10 years since I moved away.
A tourist bus was stopped there one time and a guy asked me what time it was...it depended on the month if it was the time I had or an hour behind. And very much depended where he was going next whether it changed or not. Depending on the direction, it could change in 15 min.
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Navajos tend not to pronounce the T at the ends of words that end in CT.
district, project, respect, etc.....they say distric, projec, respec,...
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Navajos tend not to pronounce the T at the ends of words that end in CT.
district, project, respect, etc.....they say distric, projec, respec,...
Cuba, NM is the oddest town I've ever passed through in my life. (close to Navajo Res)
Looking forward to never going back.
Stayed the night in Farmington, NM. Not too bad. Hotels high though.
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The dishwasher pet peeve is a good one.
Nothing chaps my hide more than dirty dishes left in the sink, however.
My Mrs. has a much higher tolerance for that. I had a lot of Child in Need of Care cases where kids were removed from homes, filed for clients that had filthy ass houses in general and in particular, the kitchen and food.
And she NEVER flips the magnet sign to indicate Dirty/Clean!
I'll stop there. The testosterone pellets she's getting offset all that stuff.
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My Mrs. has a much higher tolerance for that. I had a lot of Child in Need of Care cases where kids were removed from homes, filed for clients that had filthy ass houses in general and in particular, the kitchen and food.
And she NEVER flips the magnet sign to indicate Dirty/Clean!
I'll stop there. The testosterone pellets she's getting offset all that stuff.
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When you go to war, then stop, then go back to war, then stop, then go back.......it's not the fucking hokey pokey.
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When you go to war, then stop, then go back to war, then stop, then go back.......it's not the fucking hokey pokey.
This is far more than a "pet peeve".
And it's political and inappropriate.
Please stop. Area 51 is available if you can't help yourself and feel compelled to talk about this stuff.
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It's a general pet peeve of mine. Regardless of president or party. It's incompetent.
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It's incompetent.
It's political.
Stop.
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It's a general pet peeve of mine. Regardless of president or party. It's incompetent.
look in your mirror
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I see a man who would not attack a country that didn't do anything directly against the US and had the power to halt 20% of the world's oil.
What do you see in your mirror?
See, now it's steered into "political." Because you led it there with your cheeky attempt at a diss.
We can discuss (or should be able to) prudent and imprudent decisions our gov't makes, regardless of party/individual, and not have that be "political." Because it isn't.
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What part of "stop" don't you get?
Speaking of pet peeves.....people who drop unauthorized political bombs in threads and then blame it on other people.
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Because the "stop" makes sense when it's party vs party.
I think as a certain % of this place finds it harder and harder to defend a certain someone, the quieter any and all governmental talk has to be.
Political talk is simpler and more civil when you don't feel compelled to defend the indefensible.
And saying an obvious poor decision was poor is not political.
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Because the "stop" makes sense when it's party vs party.
I think as a certain % of this place finds it harder and harder to defend a certain someone, the quieter any and all governmental talk has to be.
Political talk is simpler and more civil when you don't feel compelled to defend the indefensible.
And saying an obvious poor decision was poor is not political.
If you think I'm trying to keep this place apolitical because I would be forced to defend a specific person, perhaps you can look back to what I said about said person before the election. It's not about any specific party or politician.
It's that we, a bunch of reasonable and mature folks who talk about a wide range of topics, proved that when politics comes in, civility goes out. It coarsened the dialogue here, and it tended to spread like wildfire and infect everything else. We even *used* to allow policy-based discussion, but what we learned is that this was just the proverbial camel's nose in the tent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel's_nose)... We eventually loosened and loosened and loosened, and this became a politics board rather than a CFB (or cooking!) board.
So, no. Stop. If you want to discuss politics, head down to Area 51. They'll GLADLY oblige you.
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So, no. Stop. If you want to discuss politics, head down to Area 51. They'll GLADLY oblige you.
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Time for nuking some posts.
(When this happens, quite a pet peeve of mine)
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Overplayed songs on the radio...
I get it. They assume people are listening during drive-time which is often a 15-45 minute block, and then shutting it off. And they have to play the popular hits. So they're probably playing some songs nearly once per hour.
But when I was in Denver, it seemed like we had numerous 20-25 minute drives, and the same 3 songs were on every damn time.
The worst? The new Sublime song, Ensenada. Except it's not really new. They've been playing this song for months. And it kinda, well, sucks. It's a pretty stupid song that was maybe a little novel and humorous when it first hit, but it's not very good on its merits. And it just won't go away.
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People who complain about data centers...
...on the internet.
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When you're on the phone with your internet provider because you have an outage and the repeating hold message encourages you to go online to their website for help.
Fuck you.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Solid pet peeve. Could also put it on the grumpy thread.
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When you're on the phone with your internet provider because you have an outage and the repeating hold message encourages you to go online to their website for help.
Fuck you.
smart phone
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People who complain about data centers...
...on the internet.
People are stupid and I hate them.
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I don't understand why electric razors can't give me a good shave on my neck. They do great on my cheeks, chin, and mustache area. Under my jaw and on my neck is where they struggle. I can go over and over a spot, and it still leaves whiskers.
I thought it might be a quality thing, maybe the standard shaver you can get at Walmart is inferior, so I bought one on Amazon that had stellar reviews and was something like $230. Same result, other than it does do a bit better job up on the cheeks and such.
I look at reviews and I watch demo videos of guys reviewing them and doing live shaves to see how they do, and then give their thoughts. They don't seem to have this problem, even with the cheaper ones.
WTF is wrong with my lower chin and neck that electric razors leave me patchy? Half the time I have to go over it with a razor blade and sometimes I just don't bother and have to shave the old fashioned way. Which I hate.
Annoying.
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I don't understand why electric razors can't give me a good shave on my neck. They do great on my cheeks, chin, and mustache area. Under my jaw and on my neck is where they struggle. I can go over and over a spot, and it still leaves whiskers.
I thought it might be a quality thing, maybe the standard shaver you can get at Walmart is inferior, so I bought one on Amazon that had stellar reviews and was something like $230. Same result, other than it does do a bit better job up on the cheeks and such.
I look at reviews and I watch demo videos of guys reviewing them and doing live shaves to see how they do, and then give their thoughts. They don't seem to have this problem, even with the cheaper ones.
WTF is wrong with my lower chin and neck that electric razors leave me patchy? Half the time I have to go over it with a razor blade and sometimes I just don't bother and have to shave the old fashioned way. Which I hate.
Annoying.
True story.
But since the beard has been in place for about 5 years, I use a blade to trim around it about twice a week. Use the same blade for a couple of months to get the neck and cheeks. Did buy a rechargeable trimmer to keep the rest in shape every couple of weeks. Pretty low maintenance.
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I use Harry's and the neck is always the hardest to shave. It's weird and annoying.
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But since the beard has been in place for about 5 years, I use a blade to trim around it about twice a week. Use the same blade for a couple of months to get the neck and cheeks. Did buy a rechargeable trimmer to keep the rest in shape every couple of weeks. Pretty low maintenance.
I was happy with a beard and didn't intend to shave it, but then half the thing turned gray. I didn't mind the look of gray hair in the beard at all, I couldn't have cared less, but in my case, all the gray hairs turned wiry and curly and could no longer be made to look nice with a beard trimmer. No matter what I tried, it just looked unkempt. By the time point I could make it look good, it was trimmed so close that it was hardly a beard anymore. So I shaved it.
I see plenty of other dudes with gray in their beard, or full gray beards and they look all nice and tidy. That annoys me too.
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I have 2 electrics that do fine on my neck - takes a little more time than the cheeks, but...........
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I was happy with a beard and didn't intend to shave it, but then half the thing turned gray. I didn't mind the look of gray hair in the beard at all, I couldn't have cared less, but in my case, all the gray hairs turned wiry and curly and could no longer be made to look nice with a beard trimmer. No matter what I tried, it just looked unkempt. By the time point I could make it look good, it was trimmed so close that it was hardly a beard anymore. So I shaved it.
I see plenty of other dudes with gray in their beard, or full gray beards and they look all nice and tidy. That annoys me too.
Not much dark left in mine. Hair on the back of my head is wavy--I could never push past the curl-up to grow a proper mullet. But keeping the beard 1/4 to 1/2 inch does the trick. Profile pic is for realz, kind of at the longest I keep it. Tried to do the Jason Kelce thing for awhile, just looked like a hillbilly, which, was actually the thing for a minute.
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Not much dark left in mine. Hair on the back of my head is wavy--I could never push past the curl-up to grow a proper mullet. But keeping the beard 1/4 to 1/2 inch does the trick. Profile pic is for realz, kind of at the longest I keep it. Tried to do the Jason Kelce thing for awhile, just looked like a hillbilly, which, was actually the thing for a minute.
nobody's dumb enough to use a real pic
reminds me of Chuck Green
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nobody's dumb enough to use a real pic
reminds me of Chuck Green
Says the dude with all the empty glasses in front of him on the table awhile back.
We're among friends.
Well, mostly.
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nobody is interested in a poor dirt farmer from Iowa
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The city is putting bike lanes all over, at the expense of car lanes. I walked back along Tenth Street today from a hair cut, I saw one bike in traffic lanes, one bike on the sidewalk, and finally one in the bike lane. I don't get it. Tenth borders the park which has paved wide paths for bikes.
We drove the length of Juniper the other day, about two miles with bike lanes, the only bike was on the sidewalk. Deliver trucks were blocking one of the two remaining traffic lanes.
You can build it, but folks like their cars.
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Curious, have you studied up on urban traffic engineering? And have you listened in to the local agency decision making process?
You all know that I'm a cyclist, and although I wouldn't call myself much of an advocate, I do care a fair amount about traffic safety. It impacts cyclists in a more direct and visceral way on a daily basis.
The primary concern with street modifications tends to be throughput, with safety often a close second. Adding the bike lanes often has a negligible effect on throughput, with a strong increase for safety.
I don't know what's happening in and around Atlanta, but I know that in my neighborhood, people have lost their minds over a project that added a protected bike lane, narrowed a street from two lanes in each direction to one in each, plus a left-turn lane, and hardly touched street parking. The goal was (1) to increase protected bike paths in the city, and (2) reduce the speed of traffic from 35 to 30 to increase pedestrian safety (which has been a problem on that street). The impact on auto throughput wasn't zero, but it wasn't big, either. I think it increased the travel time by an average of 20 seconds or so (which, over a two mile stretch, isn't nothing, but it also isn't a huge problem on a signaled street with a city speed limit. Pedestrian safety was a key aspect of the project, and a good reason to reduce the speed limit. However, generally reducing a speed limit on a sign has a negligible impact; instead the street needs narrowing to convince drivers to slow down. Adding the protected bike lane helps with that. The result of the project is exactly what was intended, moderately reducing traffic speed to increase pedestrian safety, while also adding a protected bike lane to get from one end of town to the other. Framed as it was intended, the project has been a singing success; but people are still mad because there is only one lane now, where there used to be two (with zero regard for actual changes to throughput).
My point is many people--and I don't know if this is you--assume (1) narrowing/reducing lanes reduces throughput; that isn't necessarily true--there is lots of engineering on this; and (2) that this is all done just for a handful of knucklehead cyclists; while cyclists are often the biggest advocates, pedestrian safety is often an important part of the puzzle that gets overlooked because of all those jerks on their bikes running stop signs (and now doing so on electric "bikes" that travel pretty darned fast).
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Juniper Street near me went from four lanes to two, and one lane often is blocked by a delivery vehicle. The impact on car traffic has been severe. Meanwhile, no bikes, almost ever. What's the point of bike lanes when almost nobody rides bikes? We walk or drive along Juniper often, it's VERY rare to see a bike. Now, maybe those folks in Ansley Park are going to sell their BMWs and buy bikes someday? Not a chance.
I firmly believe in 5-10 years the city will restore Juniper to the way it was. And no, I am not a traffic engineer. What I heard from the Midtown Alliance was a lot of "build it they will come" crap that makes no sense to me, at all. And in the six months since the bike lanes opened, they almost never feature a bike. So, what did this help? Two or four bikes a day? And how many cars? Thousands. It was a four lane one way street going south, parallel to the Downtown Connector which often is stop and go.
This isn't Copenhagen and never will be.
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Traffic in ATL sucked 30 years ago. Can only imagine what it is now.
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Traffic for us usually is not an issue, but we avoid driving between 3 and 6 PM, and we stay on side streets. After a while, you figure out where to get somewhere, usually, to avoid stuff. we get caught in "it" once or twice a month. One thing is that the freeways are build for rush hour, so driving on them out of rush hour often is a breeze, except for outside the Perimeter. In reality, we could live here without a car at all. My wife drives more than I do.
Today we walked over to Home Depot and I got a haircut, stopped for lunch on the way back, got a few things at Trader Joes, probably 3 miles total, it's pretty humid, we got a serious storm last night apparently.
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So imagine I decided to ride a bike. I could take the bike lane on Juniper to Tenth, fine, then a block with no bike lane east, then a bike lane (with no bike traffic of course). Then no bike lane on Monroe for two blocks, then a parking lot and up some stairs to another parking lot, lock up the bike and get my hair cut. Doable, sure. Probably quicker than walking.
On return, stopping at TJ's I need some kind of rack for the produce I bought. But it's 1.3 miles as I walk, which takes me 23 minutes, maybe a bike saves me 9 minutes one way. Yay. Folks who ride bikes here aren't GOING anywhere, they ride recreationally, which is great, but you can easily do that in the park all you want. This isn't reducing traffic, it makes it worse.
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Steering into local Atlanta politics?
https://www.midtownatl.com/project/juniper-street-transformation-project
Looks like one of the two lanes was removed for the protected bike lane, the other was for wider sidewalks. 460 reported safety incidents in the five years prior to the project. Bikes were a part of this; pedestrian safety and traffic calming were intended, if not the featured talking point.
The slower throughput was a feature, not a bug.
Delivery vehicles blocking the lanes does seem like a problem.
Curious how this all went down at the local level before it got approved and funded.
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Steering into local Atlanta politics?
https://www.midtownatl.com/project/juniper-street-transformation-project
Looks like one of the two lanes was removed for the protected bike lane, the other was for wider sidewalks. 460 reported safety incidents in the five years prior to the project. Bikes were a part of this; pedestrian safety and traffic calming were intended, if not the featured talking point.
The slower throughput was a feature, not a bug.
Delivery vehicles blocking the lanes does seem like a problem.
Curious how this all went down at the local level before it got approved and funded.
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"Safety incidents." Could be defined in almost any way one wanted, if one had an agenda to push.
Unusued bike lanes are the running joke in Austin as well. Scores of millions of dollars spent over the past 20 years. Still no bikes.
Edited to Add: I'm a cycling enthusiast myself, and appreciate some of the larger more "thoroughfare" type bike lanes that exist. Of course they existed long before the recent decades push. They were used then, and they are used now.
This, isn't that.
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What is "traffic calming"? I guess if traffic is at s standstill, it's calmer? The drivers aren't.
Below is the "Connector", the only NS freeway in the city, if you get off on a sidestreet, it will move, unless your car lanes are now unused bike lanes. Juniper has been a disaster, AND they are now doing the same treatment to Piedmont. We live on Piedmont. It's going to be epic.
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That is true (about the definition of safety incidents), but it's also convenient to blame the bike lanes when there is more at work. I know that's the situation in my city (SFIrish was literally in the room for all of those decisions over the last decade), and I'm confident it is common elsewhere. Painting with a broad brush, we Americans tend to overvalue what we perceive as our convenience with cars, and we devalue safety as a result. And we often make traffic/road construction decisions in the worst possible way, with public comment guiding engineering decisions, as if the public has any idea how to engineer something. The public should guide design intent, engineers should do the actual design. We would never allow the public to comment on the construction of a massive building the way we allow the public to comment on roads, but both have important safety impacts.
Anyway, my main point here is that it isn't just the bikes. And our car-focused culture is often obtuse about safety.
FWIW, I agree that many of these "improvements" end up being silly window dressing that don't actually improve anything, and often make things worse. Sigh.
(And the Juniper Street project may be one of those.)
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What is "traffic calming"? I guess if traffic is at s standstill, it's calmer? The drivers aren't.
Below is the "Connector", the only NS freeway in the city, if you get off on a sidestreet, it will move, unless your car lanes are now unused bike lanes. Juniper has been a disaster, AND they are now doing the same treatment to Piedmont. We live on Piedmont. It's going to be epic.
Keep up your walking?
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Oh for sure I'll trust the engineers over the public when it comes to design.
I'll just state that you can reduce traffic related "safety incidents" to zero if you make a road completely impassable. But being completely impassable isn't the actual purpose of a road.
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This is a very walkable area, which is one reason we moved here. This is why I think most bikes are for recreation, or delivery in some cases, not transportation. It's not something that takes a car off the streets. We have these delivery robost all over now anyway.
One question about Waymos. I can't go out without seeing 3,4,5 of them, driving around, with no passenger (often as not). Why are they always moving without a passernge? They can't all be headed for a pickup. I saw three of them yesterday in sight at the same time. I know they are EVs. They seem just to drive around with no objective in mind, to me. I've yet to use one.
If they had a passenger 30% of the time I'd guess they are picking up when empty. But they don't.
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I wonder about Waymos, too (I've ridden in one; it was cool), and I look forward to the day that I need not own my own car, but can instead rely on subscribing to a car service. That day looks pretty far out. I hoped, in 2019, that I was buying my last car. Clearly I was not (in part because of the situation SFGopher put me in last year), but I still hope.
Still, they do seem to just drive around. I bet that's not what they are actually doing. I suspect Google has algorithms telling them where to be and when, and with good reason.
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Bear in mind a Waymo might also be a sort of rolling billboard when there isn't any passenger. It's advertising.
Especially since people might have trepidation about driverless taxis, so seeing them operating [safely] helps to normalize the idea that they can actually be trusted. You don't get that benefit if they're sitting parked somewhere waiting to be hailed.
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Oh for sure I'll trust the engineers over the public when it comes to design.
I'll just state that you can reduce traffic related "safety incidents" to zero if you make a road completely impassable. But being completely impassable isn't the actual purpose of a road.
As you should.
But engineers are also subjected to a lot of pressure from politicians and bureaucrat hacks working for the review agencies.
This is why I only do Land Surveying now.
Practicing Civil Engineering sucks - if you can all doing everything strictly "by the book" practicing.
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Just thinking out loud here, but where would a Waymo go to "park" whilst waiting on its next fare? I'd guess that you'd want it to avoid parking lots for numerous reasons. And streetside parking is limited and/or expensive in many areas. Do they operate from some sort of central hub? And if so, would you really want it to return there, when not in use?
I think they very well could be just wandering around, for some or all of the reasons we've brought up. I think it's likely that they use a predictive algorith to put them close to the next most likely fares, I think they probably are used as rolling billboards, and I also think there's not a lot of good options for them to park and be safely out of the way.
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I think they very well could be just wandering around, for some or all of the reasons we've brought up. I think it's likely that they use a predictive algorith to put them close to the next most likely fares, I think they probably are used as rolling billboards, and I also think there's not a lot of good options for them to park and be safely out of the way.
Yes. The bolded part first, the italicized part second.
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Unusued bike lanes are the running joke in Austin as well. Scores of millions of dollars spent over the past 20 years. Still no bikes.
wut?
I used to see a ton of cyclists, particularly in west Austin, like on 360 and stuff, plus downtown also (bearing in mind the amount of time I was downtown....I never worked or lived there). We always had Lance Armstrong jokes about them. When I first moved there, I lived in perpetual fear of accidentally hitting them.
Has that changed or are you talking about different parts of the city?
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wut?
I used to see a ton of cyclists, particularly in west Austin, like on 360 and stuff, plus downtown also (bearing in mind the amount of time I was downtown....I never worked or lived there). We always had Lance Armstrong jokes about them. When I first moved there, I lived in perpetual fear of accidentally hitting them.
Has that changed or are you talking about different parts of the city?
Man I couldn't tell you the last time I saw a cyclist on 360. It's true there used to be a bunch-- I was one of them. I lived up in Northwest Hills and would ride down Spicewood Springs Road (the big hill) to 360, and then ride down 360 to the Pennybacker Bridge, and back. But I don't see anyone doing that anymore.
And downtown, not really any cyclists either. Despite the millions upon million of dollars spent on bike lanes. Tons of those stupid Lime and Bird scooters though.
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I ride past a parking lot full of Waymos on my daily commute. They definitely do park for extended periods of time.
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I like the advertising idea for Waymo. I guess they don’t cost much to cruise around vs park. They don’t seem to have passengers often.
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Waymos tend to be pretty packed around here. I rarely see them empty.
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Around here they converted a traffic lane into a bike lane in front of a school, and for weeks confused drivers drove down the bike lane right by the school. No idea how many kids had to be scraped off of windshields.
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pet peeve - bicycles on roads with speed limits over 30mph
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There is not a lot of room on roads here for bikes, but they ride anyway.
I guess they figure they are living on God's waiting room so why not make it happen faster?
They literally block lanes, forcing vehicles behind them to whatever speed they are going.
Entitled Fballs.
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Darwinism at work
Maybe when I'm too old to get out of the Vette, I'll get one of these with the monster doors to open & knock down bicycles
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Pet Peeve - Bicyclists who demand to be treated like a vehicle on the road with their own special lanes and then refuse to obey the rules of the road, ignoring stop signs, lights, etc. then whenever they choose they ride in the car lane or on the sidewalk. Get off my lawn and off my road!!!
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Keen ON Atlanta - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@KeenONAtlanta)
This realtor has some fairly interesting youtubes (for locals), he has talked about the bike lanes favorably, which is fine with me. I think part of that is image.
Anyway, it's a first world issue, and doesn't really peeve me very often. The city does some silly things. They recently paved Tenth Street, part of it, and had a water main break that tore it up around a busy intersection. We had one just north of us on a side street. Thirteenth street was newly paved about three years ago and already has subsidence areas and holes. So, they put metal plates over the holes. Supposedly the city had a huge effort to repave downtown streets before the soccer gig.
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Man I couldn't tell you the last time I saw a cyclist on 360. It's true there used to be a bunch-- I was one of them. I lived up in Northwest Hills and would ride down Spicewood Springs Road (the big hill) to 360, and then ride down 360 to the Pennybacker Bridge, and back. But I don't see anyone doing that anymore.
And downtown, not really any cyclists either. Despite the millions upon million of dollars spent on bike lanes. Tons of those stupid Lime and Bird scooters though.
That gives me a sad. If I can't count on Austinites to be hippie biking granola-crunchers and generally Keep Austin Weird, what can I count on?
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That gives me a sad. If I can't count on Austinites to be hippie biking granola-crunchers and generally Keep Austin Weird, what can I count on?
It's all tech bros and woke doofuses these days. Ain't nobody got time for exercise or bein' weird.
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the influx of the Cali doofuses
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It's all tech bros and woke doofuses these days. Ain't nobody got time for exercise or bein' weird.
Last time I was in Austin that I remember, I was having a hard time navigating around the city from memory. I used to know that place like the back of my hand. I had to look up a few routes on Google Maps, something that previously would've been unthinkable. I left town on 71 out by the airport, a road that used to be open enough to drive pretty fast. It was bumper to bumper, with the conglomerate of drivers going about 30 mph, frustrating me to no end. It wasn't even rush hour. I wondered to myself "WTH??" but then remembered the population explosion that was happening back when I left, and that somewhere down there was a Tesla factory that probably was affecting things the same way Dell blew up the north end of the city when they built offices in Round Rock.
Even worse, last time I was in San Marcos, I'd looked up a coffee shop online that wasn't there when I lived there, so I routed to it. By the time I got there, I didn't recognize anything and I didn't know where I was. How was that possible in a town that size? After looking at a map, I realized I knew exactly where I was, the buildings had just all changed.....that entire street must've had a lot of the old buildings demo'd and new, much bigger buildings had been built. It looked like a section of Austin, much more metropolitan than anything I recalled.
All this is to say, forget pet peeves or grumpy old man.....do we have an Old Fart thread? More and more, my sentiments belong on that one.
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Cyclists are--in America--a weird bunch. Man I love my bikes. And I see way more dangerous things from motorists every damn day than some dumbass on a bike blowing a traffic signal, which is, admittedly, stupid and dangerous, mostly to him (and yes, has the potential to impact the person who hits him, too). But me saying it over and over again is unlikely to create the bicycle utopia I wish we had.
Oooh! This is a pet peeve: non cyclists complaining about cyclists, but not identifying the much more dangerous motorist behavior that goes on around them daily.
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Waymos tend to be pretty packed around here. I rarely see them empty.
We walked back from lunch (which was excellent) and I saw five Waymos. I can't readily tell if they were occupied. Two of them were back to back on 14th street.
This is a half mile walk, so a high density of Waymos.
I also saw a bike on the bike lane on West Peachtree, and another zoomed by us ... on the sidewalk. We ate lunch on W. Peachtree.
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I just don't want to kill a cyclist or witness that horrible event
a good friend of mine was killed on a bicycle earlier this month - it was his fault
he was 72, experienced and mostly careful - until that morning when he swerved in front of that SUV
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Cyclists are--in America--a weird bunch. Man I love my bikes. And I see way more dangerous things from motorists every damn day than some dumbass on a bike blowing a traffic signal, which is, admittedly, stupid and dangerous, mostly to him (and yes, has the potential to impact the person who hits him, too). But me saying it over and over again is unlikely to create the bicycle utopia I wish we had.
Oooh! This is a pet peeve: non cyclists complaining about cyclists, but not identifying the much more dangerous motorist behavior that goes on around them daily.
Another pet peeve of my someone complaining that I complained about a problem without complaining about another problem assuming I don't think it's a problem. ;)
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For my part, I want to be a good road user; all I ask in return is a little courtesy, and try to do the same. It annoys me that when I pull up to a stop sign, clearly later than the car on the cross street, the car often waves me through, sometimes clearly irritated. Bro, you have the right of way, please take it. BUT I understand that this is learned behavior because of cyclists behaving badly. That annoys me.
I did have someone start to get out of his truck to literally fight me once, because I was in the left hand turn lane waiting for a left hand turn light. I would have been out of his way as soon as I made the turn, but he was pissed that I was inconveniencing him.
I make a point of not riding two (or more) abreast when there are cars around; I don't run traffic lights (unless I've waited and there is no one around.) I at least slow way down for stop signs to make sure they are clear, and if any cars are nearby, I stop. I only ride on sidewalks when there is no other rational choice.
And I know that plenty of cyclists do not follow these same rules. Sigh.
And sometimes motorists buzz me because they think it's fun. And I see cars/trucks blow stop signs, traffic lights, and occupied cross walks all the time, presenting a much bigger hazard then some idiot on two manually powered wheels.
(I have a lot to say on ebikes, too--measured as you might imagine. Another time.)
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For my part, I want to be a good road user; all I ask in return is a little courtesy, and try to do the same. It annoys me that when I pull up to a stop sign, clearly later than the car on the cross street, the car often waves me through, sometimes clearly irritated. Bro, you have the right of way, please take it. BUT I understand that this is learned behavior because of cyclists behaving badly. That annoys me.
I did have someone start to get out of his truck to literally fight me once, because I was in the left hand turn lane waiting for a left hand turn light. I would have been out of his way as soon as I made the turn, but he was pissed that I was inconveniencing him.
I make a point of not riding two (or more) abreast when there are cars around; I don't run traffic lights (unless I've waited and there is no one around.) I at least slow way down for stop signs to make sure they are clear, and if any cars are nearby, I stop. I only ride on sidewalks when there is no other rational choice.
And I know that plenty of cyclists do not follow these same rules. Sigh.
And sometimes motorists buzz me because they think it's fun. And I see cars/trucks blow stop signs, traffic lights, and occupied cross walks all the time, presenting a much bigger hazard then some idiot on two manually powered wheels.
(I have a lot to say on ebikes, too--measured as you might imagine. Another time.)
Huge dick move, but always entertaining on Youtube.
https://youtu.be/dHmJSsRLgj4?si=yepBmDFEZIuMFc-i
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Old people that all they have to talk about is their various health maladies.
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Found a better landing spot
Hey can someone bounce some of these movie threads to the second page? Taking up front page space from every other thread that is as intriguing or relevant to CFB,with the season closing in
Seeing as we have 8 0f those and 11 of everything else,so quit bogarting the joint ,man
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Old people that all they have to talk about is their various health maladies.
That's all we got.
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yup, unless you want to hear about weird history - otherwise known as the glory daze
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I have no idea why the best movie stuff got stuck to the top. Maybe there is a reason.
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Hijacking bastages 94 is behind it i'll bet
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I have no idea why the best movie stuff got stuck to the top. Maybe there is a reason.
encouraging voting by those that don't check in every day
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Found a better landing spot
Hey can someone bounce some of these movie threads to the second page? Taking up front page space from every other thread that is as intriguing or relevant to CFB,with the season closing in
Seeing as we have 8 0f those and 11 of everything else,so quit bogarting the joint ,man
I think you'll all live. Never seen any old bastages complain as much about a few posts being pinned.
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I have no idea why the best movie stuff got stuck to the top. Maybe there is a reason.
My latest pet peeve is old farts complaining about threads being pinned.
College football is weeks away folks. And nobody needs to be discussing the 4th string o-linemen for Northwestern or Iowa. This is for your own good.
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A few? thought you were from Texas where football is King, and you're playing Siskel & Ebert. Dafuq, what in the name of Darrell Royal and the 40 Acres is going on here?
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My latest pet peeve is folks goin on and on about movies.
apparently, the masses are easily entertained
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apparently, the masses are easily entertained
Shoot, I know an Internet site where guys go on and one and one about college football... and other things ...
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My latest pet peeve is folks apparently not understanding they don't have to click on threads they don't care about.
OLD folks not getting it.
They should probably take it to the grumpy thread. You know, for grumpy old farts.
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Huh, I thought I was obliged to click on every thread ....
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yes, just incase the pot needs to be stirred a bit
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That's all we got.
Yeah, but I don't need to hear it. I don't need to know about the random old guy's PSA levels just because our dogs are friends...
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I notice olsters either complain about how awful their health is, or how great it is...
Not many just say "Yeah, things are about typical for my age....".
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My latest Pet Peeve...people who don't bother to read the rules for the Best 80's Movie, and suggest films that either were not made in the 80's, or if they were, are some Western set in the 1800's or some dystopian future. :smiley_confused1:
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there are rules?!?!?
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"Yeah, things are about typical for my age....for someone who drinks".
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a lot!
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Actually I've only had 6 in the last two weeks :67:
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slacker
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When was the last time that you shot-gunned a beer?
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a couple months ago - golf bet
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Ya but you were drinking from the ball washer when you did it
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Best time for me to read threads here is in the first hour of work, Mon - Thurs. A lot of times I don't get much chance to even log on Friday and in the weekend. Monday mornings things have gotten so far behind that I've got three pages worth of threads to catch up on. Some Mondays, like today, some of the threads have added multiple pages.
I give up this time, I'm just starting with new posts from now on.
So my pet peeve is not being able to catch up sometimes on an avalanche of posts. Who knows what dumb things youse guys are saying that needs correcting, and I don't have the time.
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Tis a pity, without MDTs corrections here, all sorts of mischief happens ...
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Yes he has his priorities mixed up obviously :098:
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So my pet peeve is not being able to catch up sometimes on an avalanche of posts. Who knows what dumb things youse guys are saying that needs correcting, and I don't have the time.
and you're not a businessman
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Best time for me to read threads here is in the first hour of work, Mon - Thurs. A lot of times I don't get much chance to even log on Friday and in the weekend. Monday mornings things have gotten so far behind that I've got three pages worth of threads to catch up on. Some Mondays, like today, some of the threads have added multiple pages.
I give up this time, I'm just starting with new posts from now on.
So my pet peeve is not being able to catch up sometimes on an avalanche of posts. Who knows what dumb things youse guys are saying that needs correcting, and I don't have the time.
And I'm over here on Pacific Time (also Pacific Standard Time, I think)...
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And I'm over here on Pacific Time (also Pacific Standard Time, I think)...
Nope. At least assuming you're in CA right now and not traveling somewhere that somehow doesn't follow DST.
We're currently on PDT.
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Yup for those states/cities that observe, we're in Daylight Savings Time right now, not Daylight Wastings Time. Thank goodness.
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(this is what happens when you miss a "not" when reading something fast on the interwebs...)
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Ads that prey on the innumerate.
I keep hearing this Tide pods ad on the radio where they are telling some shopper that the bargain laundry detergent is 80% water, which is apparently a waste, because Tide pods are only 11% water.
No mention of cleaning effectiveness. No mention of cost in a $/wash metric. Just it's bad because it's 80% water. I mean, I'm sure the bargain detergent is probably cheaper on a $/wash metric, which of course is why they don't mention it.
What's next, "Don't drink that delicious beer, it's >90% water! This Everclear is much better, because it's only 5% water!"
But the dumb among us will hear that ad and want Tide pods because they just MUST be a much better value. It's going to cost you more every time you wash your clothes, but at least you aren't wasting your money on water!
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They have to contrive some kind of notional ad that appeals. I've been in on some of these efforts. It's pretty amazing how much goes into creating a tag line for a commercial product. They do multiple focus groups.
I have not tried Tide Pods, we usually buy Gain liquid at Costco. When I was in the biz, Gain was the same core stuff as Tide with a different perfume.
We used to make powdered detergent back in the day, with phosphate builders, nothing today can match that product.
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So, turning left at a busy intersection, and I'm say six cars behind in the turn lane. Left turn signal comes on, and lead car doesn't move ... for agonizing seconds, then it slowly makes the turn, and the car behind is slow to move, finally everyone gets moving and ... you know the rest of it.
The left turn signals here usually start flashing yellow except at very large intersections, but often you can't turn because of oncoming.
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They have to contrive some kind of notional ad that appeals. I've been in on some of these efforts. It's pretty amazing how much goes into creating a tag line for a commercial product. They do multiple focus groups.
The television show Mad Men did a great job of highlighting this activity within the ad agency.
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But the dumb among us will hear that ad and want Tide pods because they just MUST be a much better value. It's going to cost you more every time you wash your clothes, but at least you aren't wasting your money on water!
Bruh, you just don't understand. Did you even hear the part where it has less water?
Less water, brad!
Tide pods are better, science says so.
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The television show Mad Men did a great job of highlighting this activity within the ad agency.
Back when marketing was one of my double majors, there was a refrain they repeated to us, "Building a better mousetrap doesn't mean more sales." The point being that the objective quality of a product was not nearly as important as its branding and messaging. They made me read a bunch of boring studies that supposedly proved that.
There was an entire managerial theory built on effectively ignoring the quality/effectiveness/R&D and focusing mostly on marketing.
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The television show Mad Men did a great job of highlighting this activity within the ad agency.
I was dealing off and on with our Marketing Department, who would hire the actual ad agency. Most of those guys had MBAs from Stanford etc. and most were pretty sharp.
It was pretty fun at times, one group even offered me a job there doing something, I forget what now. My director wanted me to take it, for obvious reasons.
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Tide pods are better, science says so.
Speaking of, a pet peeve is when people say "Science says...."
No it doesn't. "Science" doesn't say anything. Scientists might. Science can be broadly referred to as 1) a set of facts in an area or group of areas, or 2) a philosophical method by which causes and effects can be inferred. The method doesn't do the inferring, though. And the facts don't generally assemble themselves into a coherent narrative or cause-and-effect chain. People do that, and it's why you can have multiple learned and reasonable people reach various conclusions while looking at the exact same facts.
Most people who say that think they are meaning the first definition, but usually they're not citing a fact, they're citing an implication of a fact, often arrived at incorrectly or with incomplete knowledge. Patients love to say stuff like "Well I wouldn't ever take that medication, the science on it says--"
Ma'am, let me just stop you right there. Science didn't say anything. An article, friend, journalist, the internet, somebody, said something about it and may have vaguely referenced a genuine scientifically observed fact in the process. But the science didn't tell you whatever is about to come out of your mouth.
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the science keeps evolving and changing - as does marketing
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We used to make powdered detergent back in the day, with phosphate builders, nothing today can match that product.
my mother and grandmothers loved that powdered Tide with phosphates
I may have a box in the basement somewhere
why don't they make it any longer?
Something dangerous or just worked too well?
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Some of the best detergent marketing way back was "whiter than white", which actually has "science" behind it.
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my mother and grandmothers loved that powdered Tide with phosphates
I may have a box in the basement somewhere
why don't they make it any longer?
Something dangerous or just worked too well?
The phosphates were gradually banned because of eutrophication of waterways, or so folks thought. Fertilizer runoffs is more relevant. Making powdered laundry detergent is capital intensive, you need these huge "spray dry towers" that are expensive to build and operate.
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THE science.
Follow it.
also
Follow THE data.
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I was in a meeting with one of our lobbyists who was trying to keep Virginia from banning phosphates outright. He related he told on legislator "Nitrogen is the limiting nutrient here."
The legislator responded "Yeah, but I can ban phosphates, I can't ban nitrogen".
The writing was on the wall. The facts were nor relevant.
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Tide pods are better, science says so.
Speaking of, a pet peeve is when people say "Science says...."
No it doesn't. "Science" doesn't say anything. Scientists might.
Are you arguing with yourself? :017: Nothin' to do at work? :043:
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the science keeps evolving and changing
Too many people think of this as a reason to not follow it.
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Too many people think of this as a reason to not follow it.
Too many people think they are smart enough to follow it.
Too many are not.
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None of it is complicated.
The evidence leads to conclusions.
You can experiment much of it.
It's not about truth, but explanation.
And it should improve over time, which is evidence of learning.
Yet some bastardize all of that in lieu of an old book that gets more and more wrong as we learn more and more over time.
Brilliant.
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You know what my pet peeve is?
Mods who say we can't discuss religion, and then make references to how they don't believe in God, and let another poster take repeated jabs.
And of course the people who follow the rules just have to roll their eyes and let it go.
At this point, I don't even blame OAM. He knows there's no consequences. Why not post every lazy, facile, ignorant thing you think is clever? Either don't have the rule, or ban the dude.
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You know what my pet peeve is?
Mods who say we can't discuss religion, and then make references to how they don't believe in God, and let another poster take repeated jabs.
And of course the people who follow the rules just have to roll their eyes and let it go.
At this point, I don't even blame OAM. He knows there's no consequences. Why not post every lazy, facile, ignorant thing you think is clever? Either don't have the rule, or ban the dude.
There are degrees, my friend...
I wasn't "discussing religion". I was essentially making a joke that the only way IU could win a football natty is via supernatural interference--someone sold their soul to the devil. In my case, I was also not being dismissive of those who do believe in God. There was no value judgment on religion offered, and it was in my opinion in no way trying to open a discussion or religious debate. You may disagree, but when I make a post like that, I run it through my own "is this appropriate or is this crossing a line" filter.
OAM can't help himself, but sometimes it's easier to just let it lie and see if it escalates. He baits the hook, but if nobody bites, then it's just OAM spouting off and not a religious discussion/debate. We can all just quietly judge him and his behavior, as usual.
I also didn't get on Badge for his USPS ranting... Technically that probably gets too deep into politics, but in my estimation it wasn't something I felt likely to escalate or get acrimonious.
IMHO the goal is to make sure that this is a nice place that we all enjoy gathering. I don't think any of us want it to go back to what it was in 2024 during the offseason where more than half (my recollection; may not be accurate) political discussion which crowded much other stuff out and had people at each others' throats. But I also don't think any of us want it to be a thought prison where everyone feels like they're always at risk of getting called out for saying what they think are innocuous things.
It's about the outcome, not some black and white rule. I try to find balance.
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I think if a person says they don't believe in God, if the rest of us let it go at that, it's not "discussing religion", in my view, samd thing in reverse.
If folks start bickering over it, then we're over the line. For example, I grew up going to a Southern Baptist church regularly, often twice a week, that's a statement of fact. What I think of SBs now is an opinion.
I think statements of raw fact are OK, maybe with few exceptions. Statements of OPINION about CFB of course are fine.
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I would add that some folks may well think their OPINION is a raw fact when it is not.
Most of us understand that.
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I think if a person says they don't believe in God, if the rest of us let it go at that, it's not "discussing religion", in my view, samd thing in reverse.
If folks start bickering over it, then we're over the line. For example, I grew up going to a Southern Baptist church regularly, often twice a week, that's a statement of fact. What I think of SBs now is an opinion.
I think statements of raw fact are OK, maybe with few exceptions. Statements of OPINION about CFB of course are fine.
How many time must a person tell us they "don't believe in God" before it seems like just a thumb in the eye to believers?
I think that's the issue.
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How many time must a person tell us they "don't believe in God" before it seems like just a thumb in the eye to believers?
I think that's the issue.
Sure, that can be, in this specific case I don't recall an antecedent. It doesn't come up often at all, that I recall.
Now, if someone posted something about their religion, even if factural/historical, over and over, I'd say that is unnecessary and would get clipped, around here.
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Sure, that can be, in this specific case I don't recall an antecedent. It doesn't come up often at all, that I recall.
Now, if someone posted something about their religion, even if factural/historical, over and over, I'd say that is unnecessary and would get clipped, around here.
Seems to me these toss off comments are quite frequent.
"in lieu of an old book that gets more and more wrong as we learn more and more over time.
Brilliant."
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How many time must a person tell us they "don't believe in God" before it seems like just a thumb in the eye to believers?
I think that's the issue.
well, I'm forgetful and get use guys mixed up from time to time so those reminders are OK for me
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Seems to me these toss off comments are quite frequent.
and very clever
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Seems to me these toss off comments are quite frequent.
"in lieu of an old book that gets more and more wrong as we learn more and more over time.
Brilliant."
I actually agree they are too frequent, but I interpreted the comment as pertaining to a 1904 chemistry text ....
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your freshman year?
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your freshman year?
Nah, I was already teaching that year.
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Micro aggressions.
Annoying. I’m guilty of the occasional needle in someone’s eye, but I agree with MDT JGV.
From my perspective, one of the difficulties on this kind of thing is that when there is a prevailing opinion in a community, that community has a harder time identifying breaches of norms that are consistent with that opinion.
Similarly, when it comes to OAM, specifically, I think he is the subject of ad hominem attacks more than maybe people realize. He (you, as I assume you are reading along, too), also makes such attacks, and, yes, inflammatory remarks on verboten topics around here.
I also agree with BRAD’s take, that the goal here is to keep us a nice, friendly community, which largely has worked since the end of THAT thread.
And we could all stand to pull back on this bs, which doesn’t improve our community. Maybe sometimes that means a cool-off when a poster, regardless of their number of posts or longevity in the board deserves it…just as long as that’s not me. :-)
Let’s keep it cool, people, and not start banning people for trifles, but also not commit so many trifles that they have established a common pattern.
We’re ALL good enough to do that.
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Nobody is getting banned. I'd shut this place down before starting that nonsense.
I don't know if the old book is right or wrong. I don't care.
I do care about science though.
Some scientists were very wrong in the recent past. For that I do care.
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most of them were well meaning folks that did the best that they could with what they had to work with at the time
same as the current scientists - nobody is perfect
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I don't expect perfection. I'd be disappointed way too often.
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Scientists often are wrong, in general, they are the ones who figure out they were wrong. I know I've been wrong any number of times, I'm used to it.
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Science isn't about being right.
It's about, over time, being less and less wrong.
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Science isn't about being right.
It's about, over time, being less and less wrong.
Correct, and so long it's transparent and truthful, that's perfect.
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How many time must a person tell us they "don't believe in God" before it seems like just a thumb in the eye to believers?
I think that's the issue.
/hops in mid-chat
Is a person declaring something they don’t believe a thumb in the eye of someone who does?
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Pet peeve:
Popular mispronunciations of words that people think are acceptable.
"Nucular."
"Mischievious."
Had many people get irritated about correction and say that it's just a different pronunciation.
No, it isn't.
You would have to spell "nuclear" completely different to get the word they say. George W. Bush was the highest profile, most frequent offender I can recall, but it's very common for people to say it that way.
You would need an entirely added letter and syllable (i) to turn "mischievous" into "mischievious."
I'm sure there are others, but those are two of my major pet peeve ones.
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My realtor gets annoyed about something similar, I forget what.
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My pet peeve is confusing less and fewer.
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I'm sure there are others, but those are two of my major pet peeve ones.
kindergarten
pumpkin
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/hops in mid-chat
Is a person declaring something they don’t believe a thumb in the eye of someone who does?
Dunno? If I say I don't believe a chick with a dick is a woman at least once a week, at what point does it get redundant, and begin serving another purpose other than a simple declaration of my belief?
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Dunno? If I say I don't believe a chick with a dick is a woman at least once a week, at what point does it get redundant, and begin serving another purpose other than a simple declaration of my belief?
Hmm, that is fair. Suppose some of it is intent, and maybe giving someone benefit of the doubt in terms of trying to be annoying to someone vs. being unable to help one’s self being annoying.
(I don’t know why I’m getting too deep with this, as I’d probably be a bit firmer on that front with certian posters were I in the spot to do so)
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This place generally polices itself. We're in this together.
I had a bit of a heavy hand on the old board, but that's what Scout wanted at the time. They housed us for free after they bought out CFN from Pete.
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I agree that posting something unrelated to CFB OVER AND OVER AND OVER is basically meant to offend someone who may not share that opinion.
I do notice it but not that often, and I'm pretty thick skinned. At times, it may be better to "let it ride" and not react than to generate a stir.
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I had a bit of a heavy hand on the old board, but that's what Scout wanted at the time. They housed us for free after they bought out CFN from Pete.
I don't recall thinking you ever did anything heavy handed, but that was a while ago. Our rule about politics and religion came into being because a few posters had gone off on those tangents over and over and over. There is a place for political opinion, just not on this part of the site.
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Dunno? If I say I don't believe a chick with a dick is a woman at least once a week, at what point does it get redundant, and begin serving another purpose other than a simple declaration of my belief?
I'm reminded of the saying that I coined...
Offense can never be given; it can only be taken.
If someone says they don't believe in God in a rude and demeaning way to you, you can't control the fact that they're being a jerk. You can control whether you let it offend you.
I tend to take the Jeffersonian approach here...
But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
You say someone professing a non-belief in God is a thumb in your eye. Those of us who don't believe might respond that being told that God exists and we'll be eternally punished for our non-belief is a thumb in our eye. And sometimes the intent is even to jab a thumb in the others' eye.
I reject both. I move my eye out of the path of your thumb.
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I'm reminded of the saying that I coined...
Offense can never be given; it can only be taken.
If someone says they don't believe in God in a rude and demeaning way to you, you can't control the fact that they're being a jerk. You can control whether you let it offend you.
I tend to take the Jeffersonian approach here...
You say someone professing a non-belief in God is a thumb in your eye. Those of us who don't believe might respond that being told that God exists and we'll be eternally punished for our non-belief is a thumb in our eye. And sometimes the intent is even to jab a thumb in the others' eye.
I reject both. I move my eye out of the path of your thumb.
I am not offended. It takes a whole lot more than what goes on here to offend me. In fact, I liked when it was more political around here, but obviously no one else did, and I respect that, so politics is a no go zone -- and I have no issue abiding by the consensus.
The only offense here that tickles my delicate sensibilities is hypocrisy, and we are there.
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Yeah, hypocrisy, I understand your point. I still wonder if such posts are simply better ignored and buried than responded to.
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I am not offended. It takes a whole lot more than what goes on here to offend me. In fact, I liked when it was more political around here, but obviously no one else did, and I respect that, so politics is a no go zone -- and I have no issue abiding by the consensus.
The only offense here that tickles my delicate sensibilities is hypocrisy, and we are there.
Ahh, language like "a thumb in the eye" might make me think that you had experienced something painful.
At times, I have called out OAM for being a dick about religion. At times (as mentioned upthread), I've let political talk slide when I didn't think it likely to escalate.
As I said upthread, I try not to be heavy-handed. I only tend to try to intervene when I think things are going or likely to go off the rails and might send the board down a bad path.
If you want to call that hypocrisy, well then you do you.
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Are we ready for some football?
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https://youtu.be/a_r5UMJTS_g?list=RDa_r5UMJTS_g&t=59
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Sorry, but.. = not sorry
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Pet peeve:
Popular mispronunciations of words that people think are acceptable.
"Nucular."
"Mischievious."
Had many people get irritated about correction and say that it's just a different pronunciation.
No, it isn't.
You would have to spell "nuclear" completely different to get the word they say. George W. Bush was the highest profile, most frequent offender I can recall, but it's very common for people to say it that way.
You would need an entirely added letter and syllable (i) to turn "mischievous" into "mischievious."
I'm sure there are others, but those are two of my major pet peeve ones.
Yes, it can be, with enough people saying it that way for enough time. Language is fluid.
Case in point: irregardless is now a word that means regardless
It's stupid, but it's now technically correct. Because the masses over time.
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It's hard to not seem like a dick
Honestly... It's not that hard to NOT seem like a dick. About religion or about any other thing.
You just...
...don't be a dick.
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Yes, it can be, with enough people saying it that way for enough time. Language is fluid.
Case in point: irregardless is now a word that means regardless
It's stupid, but it's now technically correct. Because the masses over time.
Words are just sounds that everybody agrees means something.
Gay used to mean happy, now it means something completely different. So what?
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The funny thing is that I don't many people on here are even particularly religious, or even partly religious.
I think OAM is just speaking about the general public, who he thinks is overly religious, but in reality they're probably not. There seem to be a concentrated or super religious at the top, and a concentration of super non religious at the top as well, who sort of force their ideology down the line. Case in point, the whole Ten Commandants in the classroom in Tx thing. Oh brother !
Personally it doesn't bother me when OAM spouts off about all this stuff. Religion, capitalism, whatever. I notice he hasn't picked up and moved to some non religious non capitalistic utopia.
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It would seem pretty easy to avoid saying "religion" in a post, and the same with "politics" or anything related thereto.
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for most folks, yes
for some other folks? not so much
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The funny thing is that I don't many people on here are even particularly religious, or even partly religious.
I think OAM is just speaking about the general public, who he thinks is overly religious, but in reality they're probably not. There seem to be a concentrated or super religious at the top, and a concentration of super non religious at the top as well, who sort of force their ideology down the line. Case in point, the whole Ten Commandants in the classroom in Tx thing. Oh brother !
Personally it doesn't bother me when OAM spouts off about all this stuff. Religion, capitalism, whatever. I notice he hasn't picked up and moved to some non religious non capitalistic utopia.
90 miles from Key West ain't that far.
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I should move because many people have an irrational belief? What?
And the idea that Cubans aren't religious just because the government isn't is adorable.
But we can't talk about it. Get your post deleted. Can't mention the post being deleted. Get that post deleted.
But I'm the problem, lol. FFS
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Posts are getting deleted?
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You aren't really trying unless your whole account gets deleted
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my posts aren't worthy of deletion
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I posted about the discussion of religion (not religion itself) and Cincy deleted it. Then I complained about censorship for any post about discussing religion, and that post was deleted.
He just needs to do less.
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my posts aren't worthy of deletion
Let'em work on OAM first :dance:
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oh, they're workin, he just doesn't have the power
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Good one he just might pull the trigger to spite you.You're getting to predictable stirring things up but the effort is appreciated
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I'm no expert, but I didn't realize the first 2 commandments were 'you're not supposed to talk about it...'
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You aren't really trying unless your whole account gets deleted
And my man keeps trying.
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I can't figure out what is so hard about the request to avoid topics on religion here.
The posts seem aimed at stirring up controversy, they certainly aren't going to alter opinions.
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it's not hard
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I can't figure out what is so hard about the request to avoid topics on religion here.
The posts seem aimed at stirring up controversy, they certainly aren't going to alter opinions.
The only ones that broach the topic, are the staunchest disbelievers. Almost like they can’t help themselves. Strange.
I’ve been assured that it is not intentionally provocative, however.
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People who don’t understand the use of turn lanes or turn lane adjacent lanes.
Today waited multiple minutes for someone to turn onto an interstate. There was an entrance/exit lane. You had to understand basic acceleration and merging. But no. We sit there like assholes so you can turn across two lanes and then have to floor it anyway. Dipshit.
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People who don’t understand the use of turn lanes or turn lane adjacent lanes.
Today waited multiple minutes for someone to turn onto an interstate. There was an entrance/exit lane. You had to understand basic acceleration and merging. But no. We sit there like assholes so you can turn across two lanes and then have to floor it anyway. Dipshit.
Piggybacking on this, in Texas we frequently have roads with wide shoulders (maybe most places do, but I'm used to Louisiana, where the roads were built for bicycles and shoulders are the patch of grass between the solid stripe lane edge and the incline into the ditch), and people around here frequently use them when turning. It's technically illegal, though a lot of times it doesn't cause a problem. I know why people do it, they're trying to be nice and help the flow of traffic on the road by getting off of it as they slow to turn, allowing the highway drivers to continue at max speed.
But it causes real problems if everybody doesn't do it the same way, and some people follow the law, while others are technically breaking it. So if I obey the rules and slow down in the highway lane, when I go to turn, I run the risk of turning right into a vehicle that was coming up beside using the shoulder to slow and turn on the same road. Or, if I do the common thing and use the shoulder, I run the risk of running into someone using the proper highway lane. I've been in some near misses, doing it the correct way. Or maybe multiple people in fact do it the same way, but if they both use the shoulder, they might get on the shoulder at different times and that still causes problems.
I admit, I use the shoulder my fair share of the time, particularly when I'm the only one on the road. Or sometimes if I clearly see no one is slowing down or using a blinker. But if traffic is congested or I'm not positive what everyone around me is doing, I drive the way the law dictates, and it peeves me when everyone won't do that. The more people there are, the more everyone needs to follow the rules. Do they do it? No, they just nearly cause accidents and then keep going, seemingly unaware they just broke the law and caused a wreck because of it.
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Hotels that don't have bar soap, and only have pump-top body wash, in the shower. I mean, I'm sure it saves you 15 cents per guest, but seriously you can't just give me a bar of damn soap?
Also, hotels with shower heads that are about 5'10" above the shower floor. An extra foot of pipe to raise that higher is not a ton of money, and it would make sure I don't have to practically do a squat to rinse my hair. I know I'm an outlier with my height, but any man over 6' tall is going to be annoyed with that shower head.
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woke up in a Holiday Inn this morning
my theory is that 90% of plumpers are 5-8 or less
I'm 5'10 and it's bothersome
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Hotels that don't have bar soap, and only have pump-top body wash, in the shower. I mean, I'm sure it saves you 15 cents per guest, but seriously you can't just give me a bar of damn soap?
Also, hotels with shower heads that are about 5'10" above the shower floor. An extra foot of pipe to raise that higher is not a ton of money, and it would make sure I don't have to practically do a squat to rinse my hair. I know I'm an outlier with my height, but any man over 6' tall is going to be annoyed with that shower head.
This is objectively, irrefutably true.
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This is objectively, irrefutably true.
Fortunately, only affects 3-5% of guys worldwide, and only 14% in the USA.
My pet peeve as a short guy --- tall guys whining about being tall.
Eat a dick. :)
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We're not whining about being tall.
We're whining about the inability of builders to anticipate that someone might surpass midget status.
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We're not whining about being tall short.
We're whining about the inability of builders to anticipate that someone might not surpass midget status.
upper cabinetry
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That'd be one of my wife's pet peeves. She sometimes reaches for the top shelves to see if she can grab something, but alas, she is still short.
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upper cabinetry
This.
Thankfully the only part of my open living space where the ceiling is 8' is in the kitchen. Even still, my 5-8 (probably 5-7 now) body can't get to the top shelves.
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This.
Thankfully the only part of my open living space where the ceiling is 8' is in the kitchen. Even still, my 5-8 (probably 5-7 now) body can't get to the top shelves.
Fellow short king. I knew I liked you.
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Hotels that don't have bar soap, and only have pump-top body wash, in the shower. I mean, I'm sure it saves you 15 cents per guest, but seriously you can't just give me a bar of damn soap?
Also, hotels with shower heads that are about 5'10" above the shower floor. An extra foot of pipe to raise that higher is not a ton of money, and it would make sure I don't have to practically do a squat to rinse my hair. I know I'm an outlier with my height, but any man over 6' tall is going to be annoyed with that shower head.
My peeve is that soap. The bar soap is trash and pump soap is nicer on the skin.
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Seems like websites are asking you to accept cookies and pop-up permissions on every single visit.Except CFB fan forums. And why does it seem all the online newspaper sites that end in Times are behind a paywall
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Seems like websites are asking you to accept cookies and pop-up permissions on every single visit.Except CFB fan forums. And why does it seem all the online newspaper sites that end in Times are behind a paywall
The cookie thing has to do with European data privacy laws.
And the paywall thing is because those people finally figured out a basic thing about business.
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Fortunately, only affects 3-5% of guys worldwide, and only 14% in the USA.
My pet peeve as a short guy --- tall guys whining about being tall.
Eat a dick. :)
As MDT says, I'm not whining about being tall. I'm complaining about builders being short-sighted [pun intended] and cutting unnecessary corners that exclude a good portion of the population.
Per your last point, I'm not all that interested... But even if I were, at my height it would certainly not be physically pleasant...
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My peeve is that soap. The bar soap is trash and pump soap is nicer on the skin.
Eh. I'm not precious. I don't worry about my skin from soap, especially the limited number of days I spend in hotels.
Hell, in a pinch I'll use bar soap on my hair. It's not like I ever let it grow long enough to worry about damage or split ends.
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the pump soap might not be soap
freaky people can put anything in there
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My pet peeve is not being able to reach a handheld showerhead in a bathroom for people who are abnormally tall.
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Companies that won't leave me the hell alone with either promotional emails or app notifications.
What got me is now that NFL has started, I loaded up the ESPN Fantasy app. Holy shit they're spamming me like goddamn crazy with notifications! Not just crap related to my team. Not just crap related to my league, or even just football. I got some crap about Kawhi Leonard even though I'm not in a fantasy basketball league. I swear on non-gamedays I'm getting at least 10-15 notifications. And during games yesterday? Probably triple digits.
Then there's the emails. Heck, I have accounts with the credit bureaus b/c I keep my credit frozen unless I need it. Well, I'm getting at least an email a day from Experian. Offering me credit cards, loans. They just said "you can refi your auto loan"--umm, I'm pretty sure you're not giving something lower than 1.9%, guys... They're congratulating me for things like having a perfect payment history for the last 8 months since I opened the account. You're the credit bureau... You should know I've had a perfect payment history for 20+ years.
And then there's the retailers. Order one thing, and suddenly a company thinks you need an email every day in case you want to order more. And the worst is when it's something you ordered, where you bought someone a gift, and now the company is spamming you despite the fact they don't offer products you yourself would ever actually want. Before Christmas I did some research on sports bras because I know my wife was getting regularly annoyed [one of her pet peeves] by sports bras without fixed / sewn-in pads. They always get all screwed up in the laundry. So I found a brand that was reportedly comfortable with sewn-in pads, and I got to be the hero husband by alleviating her pet peeve. Well now I've got my own pet peeve. "Brad, we're running low on your size! Order soon!" Sorry, y'all, but I can guarantee I'm not a 34D.
These companies have zero chill.
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Companies that won't leave me the hell alone with either promotional emails or app notifications.
Not the same thing, but this makes me think of a current pet peeve, one that recurs every couple of years. My YouTube commercials and the cable commercials now that we've cut tv on for football are blitzing me with political campaign ads.
It's not that I don't care anything about politics. But I have less than zero patience for campaign ads. If only they knew that they're just about actively discouraging my vote for a candidate whose campaign has relentlessly annoyed me.....well, they still wouldn't stop, I suppose. But I wish they would.
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Not the same thing, but this makes me think of a current pet peeve, one that recurs every couple of years. My YouTube commercials and the cable commercials now that we've cut tv on for football are blitzing me with political campaign ads.
It's not that I don't care anything about politics. But I have less than zero patience for campaign ads. If only they knew that they're just about actively discouraging my vote for a candidate whose campaign has relentlessly annoyed me.....well, they still wouldn't stop, I suppose. But I wish they would.
Let's just make sure we keep this non-political...
But I agree.
And what was even more aggravating was with Hulu Live TV, I was getting things like political ads for local TX candidates during the TX/OSU game.
I can't even vote for "the other guy" because I'm annoyed by the ad, because I can't vote in TX elections at all!
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I seem to visit Wisconsin a lot during even-numbered years, and because of Wisconsin's politics, that means an avalanche of campaign ads. Coming from somewhere that even in the worst of time doesn't get targeted that much, it's stunning...and appalling. And yeah, I find it pretty amusing that I saw some ads on Saturday for candidates in Ohio, I think? Sure.
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Incorporating AI bots into "call centers" has upped my spam calls to 10-15 a day.
The old humans at least had the courtesy to not leave a voicemail. Not the AI bots. I delete 10-15 voicemails per day as well.
I've taken to answering and immediately hanging up just to avoid the voicemail.
It's a problem.
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Whoa, that's weird. Hulu, etc. is supposed to carry local network affiliates for the broadcast stations. Hypothetically, that would mean that affiliate stations elsewhere are carrying those campaign ads for different states. Which makes no sense, because a campaign surely wouldn't spend the money on national air time for those.
Something in my equation is off. At least one of these things isn't operating like I think it does.