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The Power Four => Big Ten => Topic started by: medinabuckeye1 on December 03, 2025, 03:28:16 PM
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Here are the CFP rankings:
- 12-0 Ohio State -4.5 vs #2 IU B1GCG in Indy
- 12-0 Indiana +4.5 vs #1 tOSU B1GCG in Indy
- 11-1 Georgia -2.5 vs #9 Bama SECCG in Atlanta, MB Stadium
- 11-1 TxTech -12.5 vs #11 BYU B12CG in JerryWorld
- 11-1 Oregon - Regular Season Complete
- 11-1 Ole Miss - Regular Season Complete
- 11-1 aTm - Regular Season Complete
- 10-2 Oklahoma - Regular Season Complete
- 10-2 Bama +2.5 vs #3 UGA SECCG in ATL, MB Stadium
- 10-2 Notre Dame - Regular Season Complete
- 11-1 BYU +12.5 vs #4 TxTech B12CG in JerryWorld
- 10-2 Miami - Regular Season Complete
- 9-3 Texas - Regular Season Complete
- 10-2 Vandy - Regular Season Complete
- 10-2 Utah - Regular Season Complete
- 9-3 USC - Regular Season Complete
- 10-2 Virginia -3.5 vs 7-5 Dook ACCCG in Charlotte
- 9-3 Arizona - Regular Season Complete
- 9-3 Michigan - Regular Season Complete
- 10-2 Tulane +2.5 vs #24 NTX AACCG
- 9-3 Houston - Regular Season Complete
- 9-3 GaTech - Regular Season Complete
- 8-4 Iowa - Regular Season Complete
- 11-1 N. Texas -2.5 at #20 Tulane AACCG
- 11-1 James Madison -23.5 vs 8-4 Troy SBLTCG
Joel Klatt pointed out something that I hadn't thought of that is interesting: Notre Dame might be screwed no matter what happens. Here is why:
The obvious one is that if BYU upsets TxTech there is a strong precedent NOT to drop TxTech from #4 all the way to behind ND and out of the playoff so a BYU win almost certainly knocks out the Irish.
The other side of that coin, however, might end up in the same result for ND. If BYU loses then they probably drop behind at least the Hurricanes. That would put the Hurricanes adjacent to the Irish in the rankings and if those two are adjacent the Irish may not like that result because their resume isn't materially better than Miami's and the Irish have a H2H loss to the Hurricanes.
Right now the Irish are the "last team in" at least in theory but in practice there might not actually be a way for them to stay there.
The second interesting issue is that there appears to be essentially zero chance of an 8-5 ACC Champion Dook going to the playoff so if the Blue Devils do manage to beat Virginia (they are only 3.5 point dogs) then there will be two G6 (whatever it is) Champions in the playoff. The winner between #20 Tulane and #24 N. Texas is already assured of a spot but if Virginia loses the ACCCG then #25 JMU is in with a win and if JMU loses the next best G6 CG winner (possibly UNLV) is likely in ahead of an 8-5 Dook team that:
- Lost at home to Illinois by 26
- Lost at Tulane by 7
- Lost at home to GaTech by 9
- Lost at UCONN by a FG
- Lost at home to UVA by 17
- Their ONLY quality win would be the ACCCG upset of UVA.
I saw some guys claim that Bama has to win to get in and I disagree 100%. Last year the committee kept a crappy SMU team in after they lost their craptastic CG and if you aren't booting crappy teams for losing their CGs then you aren't booting Bama for losing the SECCG to #3 UGA. I honestly don't even think Bama would fall out if the SECCG ended up 59-0 in favor of UGA. I just don't see it.
The #5 and #6 seeds are going to get ridiculously easy first round home games against UVA/JMU/Tulane/NTX.
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In my cornsidered opinion.............
if the Raiders lose to the Mormans, the Raiders should be out
the Canes should be out
the Irish should be out
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I find this fascinating:
https://www.si.com/college-football/vanderbilt-tried-to-schedule-13th-game
Apparently Vanderbilt wanted to schedule a 13th game with Miami. That would have been interesting.
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I find this fascinating:
https://www.si.com/college-football/vanderbilt-tried-to-schedule-13th-game
Apparently Vanderbilt wanted to schedule a 13th game with Miami. That would have been interesting.
It would have to have been outside the Continental US, right?
Imagine if Vandy and Miami had worked out a deal to play in the Bahamas this weekend. What would the committee do with that? Either way, a close but out bubble team would pick up a huge quality win.
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In theory what do you suppose would happen if Army and/or Navy were the top G6(s), and they played each other a week after the final bracket was released?
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'Murica would happen.
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I get it, BUT Vandy is acting like a boy about to bust a nut just reaching to touch his first boob.
Dude!
At least touch it first!!
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LOL!
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In my cornsidered opinion.............
if the Raiders lose to the Mormans, the Raiders should be out
the Canes should be out
the Irish should be out
I don't love the idea of punishing teams for making a CCG to reward a team who didn't.
It's messier because of unbalanced schedules, but nobody made them chase money.
I'd still rather go to last years model of the top 4 CCG winners getting the byes, but changing that they are also seeded 1-4
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It's kinda like any game on anyone's schedule
if you win it helps, if ya lose it hurts
if you're a deserving team, prove it on the field
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So you'd be better off being Texas A&M and not making it? Seems like a weird set of incentives
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So you'd be better off being Texas A&M and not making it? Seems like a weird set of incentives
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That quote is...prescient.
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I wonder if it might make sense during CG weekend to have a miniplayoff between teams on the cusp. Instead of a larger playoff, have two playin games.
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I wonder if it might make sense during CG weekend to have a miniplayoff between teams on the cusp. Instead of a larger playoff, have two playin games.
I was thinking if you do 14, and then give the Big Ten and SEC champs the 2 byes. Then the other two P4 champs auto-bids. Then save TWO spots for Group of 5 champs, you could next week have the #1 ranked G5 champ play the #4 ranked G5 champ, then the #2 ranked G3 champ play the #3 ranked G5 champ for the #13 and #14 seeds.
Would give you SOME reason to care about the MAC Championship Game. Nothing would come of it, but WMU would know if they could beat Miami(Ohio) and then JMU or Tulane, then they would get to go lose by 70 in Eugene.
Plus it would nearly be a de facto bye, but you'd get the revenue of a home playoff game for that #3 team.
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I wonder if it might make sense during CG weekend to have a miniplayoff between teams on the cusp. Instead of a larger playoff, have two playin games.
don't give them any stoopid ideas
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I'm thinking of having Vandy play Miami, winner gets in. And maybe Texas plays ND, same deal.
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I do wonder what these ticket demands look like over time.
If Ohio State, or Georgia, etc, who are in it every year, find themselves in a 5-12 home game against James Madison, do they care. Maybe that just opens a door for the fans who can't travel, to see a home playoff game.
But how many years are fans travelling for a quarterfinal game over NYE, knowing even with a win, they are 2 weeks away from a title.
SEC fans driving to Atlanta, New Orleans, or Dallas, might keep those ok. But to LA, or Phoenix?
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I do wonder what these ticket demands look like over time.
If Ohio State, or Georgia, etc, who are in it every year, find themselves in a 5-12 home game against James Madison, do they care. Maybe that just opens a door for the fans who can't travel, to see a home playoff game.
But how many years are fans travelling for a quarterfinal game over NYE, knowing even with a win, they are 2 weeks away from a title.
SEC fans driving to Atlanta, New Orleans, or Dallas, might keep those ok. But to LA, or Phoenix?
I don't think, in the foreseeable future that there will be a lack of demand for home playoff games but I do think this will be a growing issue for the quarter-final and semi-final bowls.
Looking at Ohio State last year you had:
- First round vs Tennessee at home on December 21.
- Quarter-final vs Oregon at the Rose Bowl on January 1.
- Semi-Final vs Texas at the Cotton Bowl on January 10.
- National Championship vs Notre Dame in Atlanta on January 20.
From my perspective as a fan who has been to few Bowl games including a CFP Semi-final and a BCSNC:
Demand for the home game is always going to be there because most fans can drive it in a day. If I could get into a home playoff game for a couple hundred bucks, I'd go.
The Rose Bowl is trickier. That is a trip. Nearly everyone is flying. I drove it, but it takes close to 36 hours of driving. Driving or flying is one thing when you have around six weeks to plan the trip, it is very different when you have 10 days. When I went, Ohio State clinched the Rose Bowl bid by beating Indiana on November 16. That left better than six weeks to plan the trip to California for a game on January 1. Last year Ohio State didn't clinch the Rose Bowl bid until December 21. That only gives you 10 days.
The semi-final was even worse. It was only nine days after the Rose Bowl. Beyond that, my view was that I had zero interest because:
- If Ohio State won, I'd rather pay to travel to the bigger stakes and closer NC 10 days later in Atlanta, and
- If Ohio State lost, who wants to go see a loss?
Either way, I don't want to go to Texas.
I'd like to see the first two rounds on campus.
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People might not travel from Columbus, but it is a national fan base. Plenty of OSU fans in LA, Dallas and Atlanta will pounce on the opportunity to see them in their backyard.
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Boise is killing the Rebels.
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Kennesaw beat Jacksonville
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Tulane with the win
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People might not travel from Columbus, but it is a national fan base. Plenty of OSU fans in LA, Dallas and Atlanta will pounce on the opportunity to see them in their backyard.
There definitely are but last year tOSU is not a great test because the semi-final vs Texas was IN Texas so there were plenty of local Longhorns. Beyond that, Atlanta is also drivable for Buckeyes (10 hours for me and I'm in Northern Ohio, for someone from Cincy it is only 7). Furthermore, the Championship ended up between two of the better travelling fanbases.
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another reason the ESPN committee leans towards helmets - they travel
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I do wonder what these ticket demands look like over time.
But how many years are fans travelling for a quarterfinal game over NYE, knowing even with a win, they are 2 weeks away from a title.
This was one of the big scrutinies/concerns going in and it has merit for sure. It won't be the gate prize they think Fan fatique is a thing and the powers that be are just stoopid greedy
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Tulane and James Madison both won last night so there is now absolutely no path the the playoffs for Dook.
Tulane is in.
Virginia/Dook determines the last two seeds:
If Virginia wins:
If Dook wins:
- #11 Tulane
- #12 James Madison
Either way, the #5 and #6 seeds are getting comically easy first round home games.
Who will get those #5 and #6 seeds?
If the favorites all win it will be Oregon and Ole Miss. Interestingly, Ole Miss already beat Tulane by seven TDs so a rematch would only tell us how much they miss Lane.
If Bama beats UGA again I think that Bama would steal Georgia's bye and push UGA to the #5. BYU over TxTech would likely push TxTech down without getting a bye for BYU.
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What an odd thing to spend the time to produce.
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