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Title: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on November 30, 2025, 12:41:10 PM
The ACC could be shut out completely, scenario:

I am fairly certain that both 11-2 Tulane and 12-1 James Madison would be ranked ahead of Duke.

BYU is the potential bid thief:
If #11 BYU (11-1) +12.5 upsets #5 TxTech (11-1) in the B12CG I don't *THINK* that would knock the Red Raiders out so the B12 would become a 2-bid league at the expense of #10 Bama, #9 Notre Dame,  or #8 Oklahoma. 

Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 30, 2025, 12:42:38 PM
As long as ND is the one left out, I'm all for any crazy scenario.
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on November 30, 2025, 12:48:22 PM
If they take a second G5 champion over the ACC champion, is Miami still on the table for an at-large? 

That would be weird if the ACC champion sits home while the third place team makes the playoffs. 
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on November 30, 2025, 12:48:31 PM
As long as ND is the one left out, I'm all for any crazy scenario.
Obviously it is a moot point if Bama wins the SECCG but would the team left out be:

Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: FearlessF on November 30, 2025, 12:51:19 PM
I've already stated that I would put in Texas instead of ND
same with Bama
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on November 30, 2025, 12:52:24 PM
If they take a second G5 champion over the ACC champion, is Miami still on the table for an at-large?

That would be weird if the ACC champion sits home while the third place team makes the playoffs.
In theory yes but in practice I don't see a path. I don't think any team is in a position to play their way out. 
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on December 01, 2025, 11:21:02 AM
Does anyone else find it odd that GameDay is going to the SECCG?

In terms of rankings how can they pass on #1 tOSU vs #2 IU?

I can understand an argument that the SECCG is more consequential because the tOSU/IU loser is probably #2 and almost certainly no worse than #4 while Alabama could theoretically miss the CFP altogether if they lose (and BYU upsets TxTech) but if we are going by consequences then they should go to either the B12CG which involves BYU as a potential bid thief or the ACCCG which involves the possibility of the ACC being completely shut out of the CFP.
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: Cincydawg on December 01, 2025, 11:44:06 AM
Does anyone else find it odd that GameDay is going to the SECCG?
I don't know their criteria at all, and don't care of course.  Did they do the B1G CG last season?

Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: jgvol on December 01, 2025, 11:51:26 AM
Does anyone else find it odd that GameDay is going to the SECCG?

In terms of rankings how can they pass on #1 tOSU vs #2 IU?

I can understand an argument that the SECCG is more consequential because the tOSU/IU loser is probably #2 and almost certainly no worse than #4 while Alabama could theoretically miss the CFP altogether if they lose (and BYU upsets TxTech) but if we are going by consequences then they should go to either the B12CG which involves BYU as a potential bid thief or the ACCCG which involves the possibility of the ACC being completely shut out of the CFP.

One is with FOX, and one is with ESPN.
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: jgvol on December 01, 2025, 11:53:29 AM
Obviously it is a moot point if Bama wins the SECCG but would the team left out be:
  • #10 Bama (10-3) or
  • #9 Notre Dame (10-2)?



Allegedly, the Conference Champ Game is not supposed to count against you.

They better keep it that way too, or the conferences will really have their tit in the ringer going forward.
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: FearlessF on December 01, 2025, 11:57:55 AM
Does anyone else find it odd that GameDay is going to the SECCG?

In terms of rankings how can they pass on #1 tOSU vs #2 IU?
ESPN and ABC are both sports-related media companies owned by The Walt Disney Company
Which game will get better TV ratings?
Indianapolis or Atlanta?
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on December 01, 2025, 12:04:51 PM
Allegedly, the Conference Champ Game is not supposed to count against you.

They better keep it that way too, or the conferences will really have their tit in the ringer going forward.
At least based on last week's rankings (we'll see if this changes) the SECCG wouldn't have to 'count against' Bama for the Tide to get knocked out.  

In last week's rankings Bama was #10 but they were effectively the last team in because only three potential league Champions (tOSU/IU, UGA, TxTech) were ahead of them meaning that two auto-bids were ranked behind them.  

Suppose that BYU (#11 last week) knocks off #5 TxTech in the B12CG.  BYU gets an auto-bid and by the very principle that you stated, TxTech's loss shouldn't count against them so they are still in which means that the last team in (#10 Bama) is now the first team out.  Bama could hold their #10 ranking and still fall out.  
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: jgvol on December 01, 2025, 12:08:32 PM
At least based on last week's rankings (we'll see if this changes) the SECCG wouldn't have to 'count against' Bama for the Tide to get knocked out. 

In last week's rankings Bama was #10 but they were effectively the last team in because only three potential league Champions (tOSU/IU, UGA, TxTech) were ahead of them meaning that two auto-bids were ranked behind them. 

Suppose that BYU (#11 last week) knocks off #5 TxTech in the B12CG.  BYU gets an auto-bid and by the very principle that you stated, TxTech's loss shouldn't count against them so they are still in which means that the last team in (#10 Bama) is now the first team out.  Bama could hold their #10 ranking and still fall out. 

Channel your inner Animal Farm.

Bama got left out last year, and there is no way in hell that is happening for a 2nd straight year. 
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: FearlessF on December 01, 2025, 12:09:59 PM
Allegedly, the Conference Champ Game is not supposed to count against you.

They better keep it that way too, or the conferences will really have their tit in the ringer going forward.
hah, so if the Hoosiers upset the Buckeyes, the Buckeyes should still get the #1 seed?
If Georgia loses to Bama they should still get the better seed?

Easy to get yer tit outa the ringer - eliminate the ringer.  Ditch the Conference champ game and leave the $$$ on the table

Disney ain't gonna allow that
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: FearlessF on December 01, 2025, 12:11:32 PM
Channel your inner Animal Farm.

Bama got left out last year, and there is no way in hell that is happening for a 2nd straight year. 
hah, Bama gets beat by Georgia, 3-loss Texas can make a case to jump Bama
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: Cincydawg on December 01, 2025, 12:12:21 PM
If UGA loses, they certainly will drop from 3 to 6-7.  If they win, they likely will get a 2.


Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: jgvol on December 01, 2025, 12:12:39 PM
hah, so if the Hoosiers upset the Buckeyes, the Buckeyes should still get the #1 seed?
If Georgia loses to Bama they should still get the better seed?

Easy to get yer tit outa the ringer - eliminate the ringer.  Ditch the Conference champ game and leave the $$$ on the table

Disney ain't gonna allow that

And FOX....you keep forgetting that part.

And I think seeds may slip, but not cost you a spot in the playoff if you were already "in".
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: Cincydawg on December 01, 2025, 12:12:53 PM
hah, Bama gets beat by Georgia, 3-loss Texas can make a case to jump Bama
A lot of teams will be making their cases, and many will be left out anyway.
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: jgvol on December 01, 2025, 12:13:20 PM
hah, Bama gets beat by Georgia, 3-loss Texas can make a case to jump Bama

Not if the CCG doesn't hurt you.
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 01, 2025, 12:13:48 PM
And FOX....you keep forgetting that part.

And I think seeds may ship, but not cost you a spot in the playoff if you were already "in".
Fox has nothing to do with Disney's playoff.
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: jgvol on December 01, 2025, 12:14:43 PM
Fox has nothing to do with Disney's playoff.

Except he is talking about Conference Championship Games......and yours is on FOX.
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 01, 2025, 12:16:36 PM
Except he is talking about Conference Championship Games......and yours is on FOX.
Re-read his post. He is talking about a decision to be made after the CCG's.
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: jgvol on December 01, 2025, 12:17:43 PM
Re-read his post. He is talking about a decision to be made after the CCG's.

Easy to get yer tit outa the ringer - eliminate the ringer.  Ditch the Conference champ game and leave the $$$ on the table

Disney ain't gonna allow that

Seems clear to me.
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: FearlessF on December 01, 2025, 12:20:19 PM
Not if the CCG doesn't hurt you.
I think it might and can

maybe not
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: jgvol on December 01, 2025, 12:21:34 PM
I think it might and can

maybe not

Were back to the tit wringer.


They better keep it that way too, or the conferences will really have their tit in the wringer going forward.


Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: FearlessF on December 01, 2025, 12:25:53 PM
well, if Bama is a lock to get in, that means 5 SEC teams
gonna be really tough for a 3-loss Texas team to get in as the 6th

gotta jump a 3-loss Bama or a 2-loss Sooner
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 01, 2025, 01:32:00 PM
Easy to get yer tit outa the ringer - eliminate the ringer.  Ditch the Conference champ game and leave the $$$ on the table

Disney ain't gonna allow that

Seems clear to me.

I was talking about this part:


(https://i.imgur.com/kRcND4G.png)
Title: Re: CCG Week scenarios
Post by: Cincydawg on December 01, 2025, 01:36:24 PM
If UGA loses, I'm pretty sure they will drop.  If OSU loses, same deal, maybe just to 4.  

I'm hoping Duke pulls the upset.  It's not like UVA is some hedgehog.  They lost to Wake/NCSU and had three other OT games they won.  They did beat Duke 34-17.

Tech fans are BH they are in it.