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The Power Four => Big Ten => Topic started by: ELA on October 29, 2025, 08:33:20 AM
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Probably should have started this sooner, rather than having separate conversations in each SOC thread
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Lets check in on LSU...
https://twitter.com/TreyWallace_/status/1983626737604076028
I agree that the AD should be gone, but the governor weighing in can't possibly go well
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"Captain buyout" gets spanked!
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Brian Kelly at Penn State would be interesting.
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We're at Kiffin or Drinkwitz or bust, but in a holding pattern. So that's fun.
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Lets check in on LSU...
I agree that the AD should be gone, but the governor weighing in can't possibly go well
That was my take,but many LSU fans said that AD hired the baseball coach and some other coach that won a few NCs also.But don't feel like looking them up but they did a good gitting rid of purple face
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I agree that the AD should be gone, but the governor weighing in can't possibly go well
The governor is only weighing in with a popular opinion to garner votes
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The governor is only weighing in with a popular opinion to garner votes
Michigan won a National Title with an MSU alum governor. I demand a recount!!!
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We're at Kiffin or Drinkwitz or bust, but in a holding pattern. So that's fun.
Imagine being done with your coach and already being at best the 5th best available job. Behind PSU, LSU, Florida, FSU for sure. Probably on par with VT, Arkansas, and Kentucky if those come open.
This is the problem with this era, Jonathan Smith walked into a job where the NIL was a mess. It was split between 3 collectives, who were fighting amongst themselves. The largest one, who had backed the Mel Tucker extension, pulled out (no pun intended), after he was fired, during warm ups of the 2023 Iowa game. In normal times, Jonathan Smith would get time, but the problem is he backtracked in Year 2, and the donor money is not on board. Does he deserve more time? Yes. Can he be a good coach? Maybe. But if the donors are no longer on board, in the NIL era, it doesn't matter, it's over, even if whatever option we land on is worse. If the donors sign off, and we can buy a better roster, it might be a net gain, but who knows.
We literally need to land a coach who overachieves Year 1, Cignetti style, and gets donor buy in.
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Matt Rhule has signed a multi-year extension with Nebraska, keeping the third-year head coach of the Cornhuskers in Lincoln beyond 2030. This, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.
An announcement is expected Thursday.
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This whole thing is going to make a lot of unproven coaches a lot of money
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classic leverage season.
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That was my take,but many LSU fans said that AD hired the baseball coach and some other coach that won a few NCs also.
If they’re going to point to other sports where LSU is having success, don’t forget men’s basketball. The new coach, hired by Scott Woodward in 2022, is 14-19, 17-16, & 14-18 in his first three seasons in Baton Rouge.
Meanwhile, hearing Virginia Tech is pressing for James Franklin…
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Franklin to VT seems like a done deal
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Who was the first HC with a big, fat buyout???
"If I suck and things go south, you pay me lots of money to walk."
What AD read that and thought........YEP!
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Who was the first HC with a big, fat buyout???
"If I suck and things go south, you pay me lots of money to walk."
What AD read that and thought........YEP!
Jimbo (hired by Woodward at aTm).
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Jimbo (hired by Woodward at aTm).
Mahlzan, although his buyout seems paltry now.
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Plus, you’ve got to keep in mind all the coaches that did work out, like Saban. His contract was $10 MM per year, I’m sure the buyout would have been big.
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Gus at $21M is like nothing anymore. Only schools like mine can't "afford" to pay that.
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People forgetting Charlie Weis?, got his new deal in 2005, fired four years later and paid about $19 m to go away.
Now that was a schematic advantage.
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People forgetting Charlie Weis?, got his new deal in 2005, fired four years later and paid about $19 m to go away.
Now that was a schematic advantage.
I knew I forgot someone.
But he forgot to bring Tom Brady to ND.
Oops.
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LSU governor is openly feuding with the athletic director so things are on brand down there
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Is the Gov in the wrong lane about this can he overrule the LSU Prez? I imagine being a state school he could but can the the Gov steal a march on the Prez? As Politics has turned into a corrupt shyt show I don't know
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Is the Gov in the wrong lane about this can he overrule the LSU Prez? I imagine being a state school he could but can the the Gov steal a march on the Prez? As Politics has turned into a corrupt shyt show I don't know
Politics in Louisiana has ALWAYS been a corrupt shyt show. As far as I've been told
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Governors need to stay out of this stuff.
He went to ULALA.
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Is the Gov in the wrong lane about this can he overrule the LSU Prez? I imagine being a state school he could but can the the Gov steal a march on the Prez? As Politics has turned into a corrupt shyt show I don't know
I didn't know about this, but apparently the LSU president is vacant right now, according to reports.
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Is the Gov in the wrong lane about this can he overrule the LSU Prez? I imagine being a state school he could but can the the Gov steal a march on the Prez? As Politics has turned into a corrupt shyt show I don't know
LSU has an interim president right now. Permanent prez to be selected/named soon. The president and the board largely serve at governors' pleasure, and the gov. does technically wield a lot of power. Many of them have stayed out of the way, at least publicly. Many of them haven't. Huey P. Long famously ran LSU athletics basically as a monarch. So who knows, could be his assassin just really didn't like his coaching picks or the ticket prices he set.
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Politics in Louisiana has ALWAYS been a corrupt shyt show. As far as I've been told
That's why when people tell me "Illinois is more corrupt than your home state," I tell them, "Maybe, but ours is a lot more entertaining."
Illinois seems to still try to do their dirt on the down-low most of the time. Louisiana puts it on display, calls the media, and expects you to treat the open corruption as amusement.
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Lets check in on LSU...
I agree that the AD should be gone, but the governor weighing in can't possibly go well
I decided that Louisiana politics interfering in LSU football is much more interesting than LSU football.
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Welcome back MDT!
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Governor Landry is correct to target his comments at Scott Woodward (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46773515/gov-jeff-landry-critical-ad-scott-woodward-amid-lsu-shakeup) and put a stop to his financial recklessness:
"No, I can tell you right now Scott Woodward is not selecting our next coach," Landry told reporters during a news conference at the state capitol in Baton Rouge.
"Maybe we'll let President Trump pick it," Landry said. "He loves winners. You know, I'm not going to be picking the next coach, but I can promise you we're gonna pick a coach and we're gonna make sure that that coach is successful. We're gonna make sure that he's compensated properly, and we're gonna put metrics on it because I'm tired of rewarding failure in this country and then leaving the taxpayers to foot the bill."
"We are not going down a failed path. And I want to tell you something: This is a pattern," Landry told reporters. "The guy that's here now that wrote that contract cost Texas A&M 70-some million dollars. Right now, we've got a $53 million liability. We are not doing that again. And you know what? I believe that we're gonna find a great coach."
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Pretty tough talk for a guy whose professional future won't be tied to the success of the football coach the way the LSU AD's is.
I don't begrudge any criticism of AD Woodward. But he also hired LSU's baseball coach and women's basketball coach, both of whom have been runaway successes. But the fact is, at least at LSU, your job security and your legacy are tied to your football hire, for better or for worse.
The governor can say whatever he wants, because he can insert himself into this however he wants and won't ever face consequences the way an AD does.
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Pretty tough talk for a guy whose professional future won't be tied to the success of the football coach the way the LSU AD's is.
I don't begrudge any criticism of AD Woodward. But he also hired LSU's baseball coach and women's basketball coach, both of whom have been runaway successes. But the fact is, at least at LSU, your job security and your legacy are tied to your football hire, for better or for worse.
The governor can say whatever he wants, because he can insert himself into this however he wants and won't ever face consequences the way an AD does.
Not to mention the incoming coach has to work with the AD. I don't think anything the governor said makes the job more attractive if you have other options.
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Not to mention the incoming coach has to work with the AD. I don't think anything the governor said makes the job more attractive if you have other options.
There is a growing sentiment--we'll see if it bears out--that when a new permanent president is selected, the AD is going to be shown the door. While there is usually at least one layer of insulation between governor and AD (president), ADs who aren't on the same page as a governor often have a way of finding themselves unemployed. The Louisiana governor and the LSU AD appear to be on quite different sides of how they view the program, as far as what should be done, how money should be spent, etc. It wouldn't be the first time one of our ADs ran afoul of a governor and "pursued other opportunities" or "chose to spend more time with their family."
The president for sure should be in place well before a coaching hire is made. If the AD is released, that would presumably also be before a coaching hire so at least the new guy will know who and what he's crawling into bed with.
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I knew I forgot someone.
But he forgot to bring Tom Brady to ND.
Oops.
Quarterback play wasn't the problem. As obnoxious as he may have been, Clausen was a very good college quarterback. Offensive and defensive lines were the problem. Weis could scheme, but he didn't know how to recruit and coach up a team.
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Also, all these openings and press about buyouts are probably making it less likely that Wisconsin fires 2-10 Luke Fickell. That makes me sad. Next year McIntosh will celebrate the 6-6 improvement as a sign that he made the right decision. The rest of us will know that it was schedule driven and that beating a couple of cellar dwellers in the conference isn't the reason McIntosh fired Chryst.
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Lets check in on LSU...
https://twitter.com/TreyWallace_/status/1983626737604076028
I agree that the AD should be gone, but the governor weighing in can't possibly go well
I agree. It also makes little to no sense to me politically. I think I can safely say this because it isn't a liberal/conservative ideology issue it is simply the political strategic calculus for a governor of getting involved in decisions that are OBVIOUSLY not something a governor should concern themselves with. Now that he's stepped in it, he owns it. If it goes south he will get some blame. If he had just stayed out of it, it isn't his issue.
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Politics in Louisiana has ALWAYS been a corrupt shyt show. As far as I've been told
I clicked "quote" on @MrNubbz (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=17) ' post to say exactly this. Politics in Louisiana isn't 'becoming' a corrupt shyt show, that ship sailed more than a century ago.
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I agree. It also makes little to no sense to me politically. I think I can safely say this because it isn't a liberal/conservative ideology issue it is simply the political strategic calculus for a governor of getting involved in decisions that are OBVIOUSLY not something a governor should concern themselves with. Now that he's stepped in it, he owns it. If it goes south he will get some blame. If he had just stayed out of it, it isn't his issue.
It's not that I disagree with you, but I would just point out that it's hardly novel in Louisiana. Many, many governors have had more to say about LSU athletics, particularly football, than they ever should have concerned themselves with.
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It's somewhat refreshing to not be on the coaching carousel right now... :67:
...guessing that won't be a thing for Purdue until 2027 or 2028... :96:
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Illinois seems to still try to do their dirt on the down-low most of the time. Louisiana Federal Gov't puts it on display, calls the media, and expects you to treat the open corruption as amusement.
F.I.F.Y.
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It's not that I disagree with you, but I would just point out that it's hardly novel in Louisiana. Many, many governors have had more to say about LSU athletics, particularly football, than they ever should have concerned themselves with.
That is just baffling to me.
If I was the governor, my thinking would be this:
- If I stay out of it and it goes well I can claim some credit on the dubious basis that I appointed the Trustees/Regents/whatever they are called in Louisiana and possibly the University President (apparently the governor appoints those in Louisiana?).
- If I stay out of it and it blows up I can distance myself on the reasonable basis that while all Louisianans (sp?) love LSU ("Geaux Tigers" and all that), as governor I need to be concerned with governing the state, not the day-to-day operations of the LSU football program.
- If I get involved and it goes well it doesn't really help me.
- If I get involved and it blows up, I own it.
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Quarterback play wasn't the problem. As obnoxious as he may have been, Clausen was a very good college quarterback. Offensive and defensive lines were the problem. Weis could scheme, but he didn't know how to recruit and coach up a team.
Nobody remembers his stint at KU. I suppose there's reason for that.
There was widely circulated video of a practice exercise he ran there. They would kick a field goal, and simulate celebrating that it was a walk-off victory. In practice! </==off Allen Iverson> I crap you negative.
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That is just baffling to me.
If I was the governor, my thinking would be this:
- If I stay out of it and it goes well I can claim some credit on the dubious basis that I appointed the Trustees/Regents/whatever they are called in Louisiana and possibly the University President (apparently the governor appoints those in Louisiana?).
- If I stay out of it and it blows up I can distance myself on the reasonable basis that while all Louisianans (sp?) love LSU ("Geaux Tigers" and all that), as governor I need to be concerned with governing the state, not the day-to-day operations of the LSU football program.
- If I get involved and it goes well it doesn't really help me.
- If I get involved and it blows up, I own it.
If you think that's something, you should see the kerfuffles in the state legislature. That can have a lot to do with general university administration, but there's definite power plays in the athletic dept. too, or at least attempts at it.
Maybe it's part of the whole "football is a religion in the South" thing.
Also, it'd be hard to convince me that a buncha politicians, known for their corruption, anywhere near a money machine like our Athletic Department, hasn't figured out a way to dip their hand in the jar for some personal gain.
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Also, all these openings and press about buyouts are probably making it less likely that Wisconsin fires 2-10 Luke Fickell. That makes me sad. Next year McIntosh will celebrate the 6-6 improvement as a sign that he made the right decision. The rest of us will know that it was schedule driven and that beating a couple of cellar dwellers in the conference isn't the reason McIntosh fired Chryst.
Word around these parts is that KU's Lance Leipold is going to get that gig.
He is a good coach, turned that horrid program into respectability. He is 0-5 against my Wildcats, but that was established as the way long, long ago. Bill Snyder was 1-3 against KU at one time, so losing to the rival doesn't brand you as garbage forever. It wouldn't be a flashy hire, but at one time I'm sure everyone wondered who the hell Cignetti was.
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There was some talking head that recently had an old tweet unearthed where he sarcastically joked: Watch out OSU, Michigan and Penn State! Indiana hire's JMU's Curt Cignetti!
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Word around these parts is that KU's Lance Leipold is going to get that gig.
He is a good coach, turned that horrid program into respectability. He is 0-5 against my Wildcats, but that was established as the way long, long ago. Bill Snyder was 1-3 against KU at one time, so losing to the rival doesn't brand you as garbage forever. It wouldn't be a flashy hire, but at one time I'm sure everyone wondered who the hell Cignetti was.
I'd be good with it, but I'm not seeing that at all. I think he rides off into the sunset where he is.
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jesus...
https://twitter.com/ToddFuhrman/status/1983933202701189313
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If you think that's something, you should see the kerfuffles in the state legislature. That can have a lot to do with general university administration, but there's definite power plays in the athletic dept. too, or at least attempts at it.
Maybe it's part of the whole "football is a religion in the South" thing.
Also, it'd be hard to convince me that a buncha politicians, known for their corruption, anywhere near a money machine like our Athletic Department, hasn't figured out a way to dip their hand in the jar for some personal gain.
talk from the governor about hiring the new coach
nothing about signing the new coach's contract with or w/o a buyout clause
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Maybe it's part of the whole "football is a religion in the South" thing.
This was a timely converging of events that were uniquely due to blow up in one of a few places to include Louisiana.
Geography: "It just means more" in Texas too. However, it wouldn't do the Texas governor any good to aggressively assert themselves into the Longhorns coaching search while trashing the athletic director because there are enough other instate voting Aggies, Raiders, Frogs, Bears, Cougs, and 'Stangs to make this a politically unpredictable endeavor. Even in less populated but college football minded states like Iowa or South Carolina, this would be a risk. LSU football is the only statewide show in town. (Please keep in mind this isn't the first time that an acting Governor took over the hiring process for a football coach.)
Buyout: As I've stated over the years in our "Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread" thread, it was only a matter of time before a public official got vocal about the obscenely large and fully guaranteed buyouts. (I predicted it would be Mel Tucker's buyout that would draw a critical mass of attention to this, but, for good reason, his wasn't paid out.) And it just so happens the man responsible for the steepest buyout in college sports history was hired by LSU and wasted no time setting himself up for the same costly mistake by hiring Brian Kelly for a 1) fully guaranteed, 2) unrealistic dollar amount, for 3) an unrealistically long time. After Woodward tried to hire Tucker?!
And Scott Woodward absolutely deserves to lose his job for this. Forget the other sports that are doing well under Woodward's watch; BOTH football and men's basketball are underachieving.
There you have it:
https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1984053089301631388
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The more of a shit show LSU is, the more likely Florida is to get their guy.
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must be talkin bout Scott Frost
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jesus...
https://twitter.com/ToddFuhrman/status/1983933202701189313
as a Husker fan, I'm OK with it
Rhule didn't get a raise - just a 2 year extension
He wasn't going to get any better job offers anyway
he wasn't getting fired - obviously - if they lose the remaining 4 games maybe he should
gotta send the message to the recruits
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Lets not pretend that Texas politicians didn't have their hands all over SWC/XII realignment
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as a Husker fan, I'm OK with it
Rhule didn't get a raise - just a 2 year extension
He wasn't going to get any better job offers anyway
he wasn't getting fired - obviously - if they lose the remaining 4 games maybe he should
gotta send the message to the recruits
According to Stewart Mandel, the extension also modified his buyout terms such that his buyout is now $71M.
https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1983978317700329647
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jesus...
Todd Fuhrman
@ToddFuhrman
Matt Rhule is a combined 0-18 vs AP-ranked opponents at Baylor & Nebraska
College coaching is a hell of a gig
That shouldn't bother the fine folks/fans in the Alleghenies at all :(
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I quess we are never breaking this cycle
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According to Stewart Mandel, the extension also modified his buyout terms such that his buyout is now $71M.
Ah, 71 million here, 71 million there, and pretty soon we're talking real money.
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it will decrease a little in 12 months
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One part of my brain thinks Penn State should go after Curt Cignetti. His buyout is only $15 million at most and he'd be a great fit in State College. The other part of my brain hopes they do not and they try to replace Franklin on the cheap.
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Didn't know about that buy out and that would be an eye popping hire if that unfolded.Kind of hope that doesn't happen though as Pa. has a lot of talent to pull from in-state and in the east.PSU can be competitive again but that scenario would prolly be dagger to the heart of Hoosier football. I'd rather see them both good along with UW/MSU.It always makes for a much more interesting & fun season
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Nobody remembers his stint at KU. I suppose there's reason for that.
There was widely circulated video of a practice exercise he ran there. They would kick a field goal, and simulate celebrating that it was a walk-off victory.
Funny to read this without its context in mind and having to guess whether you're referring to either Weiss or Les Miles.
This whole thing is going to make a lot of unproven coaches a lot of money
According to Stewart Mandel, the extension also modified his buyout terms such that his buyout is now $71M.
Was on the fence over who to bet for this Saturday evening's USC@UNL match up. Now with Rhule signing an undeserved extension, I know to take USC. Nothing like undeserved new money to put a coach in idle. Just ask Jimbo Fisher.
Now to decide between Vandy and Texas.
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I was taking USC before the start of the season
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Was on the fence over who to bet for this Saturday evening's USC@UNL match up. Now with Rhule signing an undeserved extension, I know to take USC. Nothing like undeserved new money to put a coach in idle. Just ask Jimbo Fisher.
Good insight but I used to use the local books and don't like to put my plastic out there for that.You are prolly right tho, unless the Spoilt Childen can't handle the cold
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Funny to read this without its context in mind and having to guess whether you're referring to either Weiss or Les Miles.
LOL, it could have applied to several. Turner Gill came from a successful run at Buffalo to suck at KU. They've had so many coaches since they fired Mark Mangino for being fat and ugly, that I would have to look it up.
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His comment about Trump picking the next coach (while obviously just trying to score some political points, and not serious), made me curious about his USFL ownership.
When he bought the NJ team, apparently his first offer was to Joe Gibbs, who turned him down. Then he went after Don Shula, and they agreed on all terms, except Shula also demanded a rent free apartment in Trump Tower. Trump said no, then went to the press, which Shula didn't like. He then went to JoePa, who also said no.
He then wound up hiring Walt Michaels, who had been pressured to resign by the Jets, after back to back playoff appearances in 1981 and 1982, including a 1982 AFC Championship Game appearance. It remains the 2nd best 2 year stretch since the merger.
So, considering he was Plan D, maybe Trump should pick the next coach?
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This was a timely converging of events that were uniquely due to blow up in one of a few places to include Louisiana.
Geography: "It just means more" in Texas too. However, it wouldn't do the Texas governor any good to aggressively assert themselves into the Longhorns coaching search while trashing the athletic director because there are enough other instate voting Aggies, Raiders, Frogs, Bears, Cougs, and 'Stangs to make this a politically unpredictable endeavor. Even in less populated but college football minded states like Iowa or South Carolina, this would be a risk. LSU football is the only statewide show in town. (Please keep in mind this isn't the first time that an acting Governor took over the hiring process for a football coach.)
Buyout: As I've stated over the years in our "Coaching Buyouts and Contract Extensions Thread" thread, it was only a matter of time before a public official got vocal about the obscenely large and fully guaranteed buyouts. (I predicted it would be Mel Tucker's buyout that would draw a critical mass of attention to this, but, for good reason, his wasn't paid out.) And it just so happens the man responsible for the steepest buyout in college sports history was hired by LSU and wasted no time setting himself up for the same costly mistake by hiring Brian Kelly for a 1) fully guaranteed, 2) unrealistic dollar amount, for 3) an unrealistically long time. After Woodward tried to hire Tucker?!
And Scott Woodward absolutely deserves to lose his job for this. Forget the other sports that are doing well under Woodward's watch; BOTH football and men's basketball are underachieving.
There you have it:
https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1984053089301631388
Truly, I'm not trying to take up for Scott Woodward, but I have always felt that the AD is chained to the "donors of substance" as $Dollar Bill used to say. No way Scott Woodward makes this decision in a vacuum. No way Scott Woodward signs a contract for this much money without serious boosters giving their approval. Now, when it all blows up, said boosters are nowhere to be seen, publicly, but they let him take the fall.
On paper, Kelly was a great hire. For us collegefootballologists, we all scratched our head because the hire made little sense. Kelly never seemed to fit in at LSU, culture wise.
Remember, when we hired Jimbo at A&M they gave him a plaque, undated, for winning the National Championship. No way any sane AD does this. They skipped ahead a lot of steps, they forgot all about the program building. And then when LSU blew kisses at Jimbo (with Woodward at the helm of LSU), those same boosters dropped their panties and gave him $77 million reasons not to care anymore, fully guaranteed, after one "decent" season where we got blown off the field by Alabama, again.
I will always believe that after we gave Jimbo so much fully guaranteed money is when he basically started mailing it in, because our team never played the same after that. That, and that "Number one of all time recruiting class" that basically turned out to be a bunch of thugs disguised as football players.
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I know to take USC. Nothing like undeserved new money to put a coach in idle. Just ask Jimbo Fisher.
100%. Jimbo Fisher started mailing it in right after this.
It's funny because the only time he ever beat Alabama was after he basically decided not to do his job anymore.
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AD job isn't easy, tough keepin boosters of substance happy, but..............
hire the right coach everybody is happy
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Hugh Freeze.
He gone.
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That what happens when you score 3 points in a home loss to Kentucky.
3 jobs are open at all-time top-15 jobs in the SEC right now....
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:96:
Well what are you waiting for OAM,this is you're chance,live a little throw your hat in the ring and make us proud. And as collaborators and back up just shoot us a post and as a collective we always concur on any and all subject matter and come to a speedy conclusion.All that and no charge,maybe set us up behind the Auburn or FLA bench by the flag team or cheerleaders we'll make sure no mongrels assail them. Oh and directions to the Beer Tent also if that's not asking too much
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I've been wondering how/why it is that LSU and Brian Kelly "continue to negotiate" his buyout. Maybe our resident lawyers could comment on standard fare that would affect that, because it seems like it would be fairly cut and dry in any decent contract.
Gig'em mentioned a few days ago that LSU could be trying to escape max. payment due to a Morals Code clause or something like that, which raised my eyebrows.
Then I started hearing rumors--completely unsubstantiated, fwiw--that Kelly and Woodward share the same agent (we knew that), and that money may have exchanged hands inappropriately through that channel, which purportedly would explain Woodward trying to force a bad fit. That theory would need to overcome two decently strong pieces of counter-evidence, but I won't go into them here.
I doubt LSU would ever admit it publicly, even if true, but it does sound like the kind of thing they'd hammer behind the scenes or make up in order to not piss off the Raising Cane's guy as they show up on his doorstep again begging for him to foot the buyout bill.
There's also Kelly's odd divorce filing from a couple years ago, and the more substantiated rumors that he fooled around on his wife (so, that's like, 4 coaches in a row now for us, supposedly?)
Those things, of course, would only be an issue when he didn't win enough and when trying to pay less money. Not that they actually care about any of it, objectively.
It's all just gross and tainted. Maybe the straw that broke the camel's back. I've had a hard time maintaining interest in my team in recent years with the NIL and portal stuff. It's not even the NFL, it's far worse than the NFL. And the NFL sucks. I really don't care about the coaching hire because whoever they get is unlikely to be significantly better than what we had, and even if they found a legit banger who won multiple NCs, I just don't care like I used to.
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My guess is negotiating the manner of payout.
Would he take a little less, to get more of it up front?
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maybe just send it to the courts to avoid a payment right away?
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Was gonna wise Crack that I dont practice French Common Law....but that not helpful.
ELA is likeliest 'why' answer.
Separately, last week I casually listened to a podcast of lawyers talking about these contracts and one notable segment was how they just dunked on Paul Chryst for being 'the dumbest, most gullible idiot for taking a settlement on his buyout.'
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Auburn fires head coach Hugh Freeze, partly over golf
Freeze’s tenure has head coach has not gone well. Over three seasons, the team went 15-19 under his leadership. That’s not going to cut it for an elite NCAA football program.
So it’s no surprise Freeze was relieved of his duties after the team’s latest loss, an embarrassing 10-3 defeat to the University of Kentucky on Saturday night. It was Auburn’s fifth loss in six games after starting the season with three-straight wins.
But according to a report from CBS Sports’ John Talty, it wasn’t only Freeze’s poor performance on the sidelines that lost him his job. His affinity for golf, even amid Auburn’s struggles, also contributed to his ouster.
Talty reports that multiple sources from within the Auburn football community told him “just how much Freeze seemed to prioritize his golf game over doing everything possible to improve the Tigers’ football program. Last season, for instance, he was spotted on the golf course multiple times on Sundays after losses the previous day.”
Freeze became self-conscious of media reporting about his love of golf and tried to change the narrative, but, as Talty writes, “he still couldn’t help himself.”
An Auburn booster spotted Freeze at a golf course before a Friday game this season. According to the booster, Freeze showed up without clubs just to “watch guys play golf.”
Talty quotes another booster who said, “The only problem we didn’t foresee is that he wanted to play golf way more than coach anymore!”
Auburn replaced Freeze with interim head coach D.J. Durkin, but Freeze didn’t go away empty-handed. He reportedly will receive $15.8 million from Auburn after losing his job.
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These Wildcats, Northwestern, Kentucky... you lose to them, you're coach gets canned.
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Auburn replaced Freeze with interim head coach D.J. Durkin, but Freeze didn’t go away empty-handed. He reportedly will receive $15.8 million from Auburn after losing his job.
Wow, I don't see how anyone can deny that we are the premier program in the country. Better than Ohio State, better than Georgia, better than anyone.....we are a way better program to get fired from.
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Being paid to not coach, and paid an amount that is more than all of us will handle in our lifetimes.
Sounds like a good gig if you can get it.
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I shoulda went into coaching instead of engineering - the math isn't as difficult and it pays WAY better