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Title: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 13, 2025, 04:45:59 PM


Interesting that the entire top-25 is in action this weekend including the following ranked vs ranked games:
In addition to the five ranked-vs-ranked games:
Are all either underdogs or favored by only single digits.  Could be a lot of chaos.  Also, the Mouse has to love their all-day lineup of ranked-vs-ranked SEC games. 

Edit for correction, thank you @Brutus Buckeye (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=31) .  
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: FearlessF on October 13, 2025, 05:13:07 PM
if yer sitting at #25, yer hopin fer chaos
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 13, 2025, 05:13:57 PM


You forgot to note the ranking of the Ute's opponent, which led you to include that game as both a ranked vs ranked, as well as a close spread in a ranked vs unranked match up.



Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 13, 2025, 05:18:21 PM
You forgot to note the ranking of the Ute's opponent, which led you to include that game as both a ranked vs ranked, as well as a close spread in a ranked vs unranked match up.
Thanks, fixed it.  
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 13, 2025, 05:44:22 PM
Wazzou lost to #5 Ole Miss by only 3 on the road, now they are 17 point dogs at home to Virginia? 
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: FearlessF on October 13, 2025, 05:47:05 PM
call your bookie
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: utee94 on October 13, 2025, 05:49:33 PM
if yer sitting at #25, yer hopin fer chaos
Same for #21
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 13, 2025, 08:59:03 PM
This is the oddest top 20, possibly of my lifetime.  
3 Indiana
5 Ole Miss
7 Texas Tech
17 Vanderbilt
18 Virginia
19 South Fla
all ahead of 20 USC, with the same record
.
All the evidence you need that we're not in Kansas (07) anymore.
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: FearlessF on October 14, 2025, 12:16:00 AM
so, voters are looking at more than just # of losses and past history???

awesome
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 14, 2025, 12:27:11 AM
Ehhhhhh kind of??  These 5-1 teams...some of them are going to end up 6-6, ya know?  They're not actually that good, but they're getting recognition for the snapshot that is now.  It's good and bad.  They're not actually that good, but it's better to reward them for their resume (so far).

Vandy blew out VT (who blows) and beat 11th-ranked South Carolina who is now 3-3 and unranked.
Same with UVA...their win over FSU was huge, but FSU has fallen off a cliff.

It's safe to rank these 1-loss teams, even if they're not that good.  So part of it is same-old, same-old...it's just different teams this year.  
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: FearlessF on October 14, 2025, 12:38:40 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/6HmV17E.jpeg)
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 14, 2025, 12:57:16 AM
Illinois just has the wrong school colors.
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 14, 2025, 01:49:29 AM
[img width=273.619 height=500]https://i.imgur.com/6HmV17E.jpeg[/img]
Illinois just has the wrong school colors.
I really hate being the Notre Dame defender here but lets be fair. Notre Dame's two losses were by a combined total of four points. One was by a FG and the other was by a single point after ND botched an XP snap. Illinois was never within one score with less than 40 minutes left in either of their losses.
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: FearlessF on October 14, 2025, 08:28:59 AM
let's be fair???

at that time of the morning!
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: Cincydawg on October 14, 2025, 09:39:46 AM
I doubt any P4 team 5-1 at this point ends up 6-6.  Obviously it's possible and could happen but seems unlikely to me.  Somebody might have had a really front end loaded slate of pastries and goes 1-5.
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: FearlessF on October 14, 2025, 09:52:09 AM
yup, the SEC eats pastries later in the season
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: Cincydawg on October 14, 2025, 09:58:19 AM
A typical SEC slate starts with 2 pastries, saves one for the penultimate game before a rival, who usually can be decent.  So, they start 2-0 before hitting reality and could get a break in conference play over the next 4 games and go 3-1 while being mediocre.  Then maybe the real season gets real and the drop the next four, but that have that savory croissant in week 11.

It could happen, would be pretty rare I think.  I think Vandy has a pretty solid team if their QB stays healthy, but they did have a front loaded schedule of pastries.

Now it gets pretty real, LSU Mizzou Texas Auburn UK Tennessee.  Yeah, they could go 1-5 with that, but I'd say 2-4 is more probable.  Are they one of Texas' rivals?  I think not.
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: ManHawk on October 14, 2025, 10:51:07 AM
I doubt any P4 team 5-1 at this point ends up 6-6.  Obviously it's possible and could happen but seems unlikely to me.  Somebody might have had a really front end loaded slate of pastries and goes 1-5.
There is some history here.  We joke a lot on this board how September Maryland  always looks unbeatable,  then tanks in Oct and Nov.  Michigan under Rich Rod and Hoke were also famous for this.  Even early Harbaugh had issues in November.

I am feeling lazy today and don't feel like looking it up,  but I am sure we could find plenty of examples.  Probably a lot more examples of 5-1 teams that finish 7-5,  but finding 6-6 teams might be harder, I admit.
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: ManHawk on October 14, 2025, 10:54:56 AM
The love for Nebraska in the AP poll makes my head spin.  In my Big Ten Power Rankings,  I got Nebraska ranked 9th behind Wshington,  Michigan, Illinois and Iowa.
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: FearlessF on October 14, 2025, 10:57:45 AM
I agree with you

perhaps the voters respect year #3 Matt Rhule
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: FearlessF on October 14, 2025, 10:58:34 AM
In 2024, the Huskers improved to 5-1 before dropping the next four, eventually setting for a 6-6 record.
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: FearlessF on October 14, 2025, 11:01:21 AM
According to Kelly Ford and the KFord Ratings, Nebraska has a solid chance to eclipse last year's output.

The regular-season finale is at home with Iowa on Black Friday. The Hawkeyes are 4-2, with wins over Albany, UMass, Rutgers, and Wisconsin and losses to Iowa State and Indiana. KFord gives Nebraska a 53% chance of winning the game, down 12%.

If you take every game with a better than 50% chance as a Nebraska win, then the Big Red are in line to go 9-3. KFord gives Nebraska a 53% chance to win at least nine games, which is 3% lower than before the Maryland win.
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: utee94 on October 14, 2025, 11:03:58 AM
There is some history here.  We joke a lot on this board how Srptember Maryland  always looks unbeatable,  then tanks in Oct and Nov.  Michigan under Rich Rod and Hoke were also famous for this.  Even early Harbaugh had issues in November.

I am feeling lazy today and don't feel like looking it up,  but I am sure we could find plenty of examples.  Probably a lot more examples of 5-1 teams that finish 7-5,  but finding 6-6 teams might be harder, I admit.
Not 5-1, but last year OU started 4-1 and then finished 6-6 in the regular season.  

And with their remaining games @South Carolina, vs. Ole Miss, @Tennessee, @Alabama, vs. Missouri, and vs. LSU, it's a possibility that this year they might go from 5-1 to 6-6.



Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: utee94 on October 14, 2025, 11:05:46 AM
A typical SEC slate starts with 2 pastries, saves one for the penultimate game before a rival, who usually can be decent.  So, they start 2-0 before hitting reality and could get a break in conference play over the next 4 games and go 3-1 while being mediocre.  Then maybe the real season gets real and the drop the next four, but that have that savory croissant in week 11.

It could happen, would be pretty rare I think.  I think Vandy has a pretty solid team if their QB stays healthy, but they did have a front loaded schedule of pastries.

Now it gets pretty real, LSU Mizzou Texas Auburn UK Tennessee.  Yeah, they could go 1-5 with that, but I'd say 2-4 is more probable.  Are they one of Texas' rivals?  I think not.
Well they ain't Wofford that's for sure. 

Anyway, it's a darn good thing we get the Dores at home this year!  
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: ManHawk on October 14, 2025, 11:07:14 AM
According to Kelly Ford and the KFord Ratings, Nebraska has a solid chance to eclipse last year's output.

The regular-season finale is at home with Iowa on Black Friday. The Hawkeyes are 4-2, with wins over Albany, UMass, Rutgers, and Wisconsin and losses to Iowa State and Indiana. KFord gives Nebraska a 53% chance of winning the game, down 12%.

If you take every game with a better than 50% chance as a Nebraska win, then the Big Red are in line to go 9-3. KFord gives Nebraska a 53% chance to win at least nine games, which is 3% lower than before the Maryland win.
Usually if a team has a 53% chance to win each game,  I would assume they will win about half of them.   But maybe I am misunderstanding what you are saying.
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: FearlessF on October 14, 2025, 11:16:51 AM
some games were more than 53%.  The Iowa game is actually 53%.  Northwestern is higher
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: SFBadger96 on October 14, 2025, 12:11:01 PM
Poll voters like wins, and they don't like nuance. Nebraska is a B1G team with only one loss. Midseason that gets you ranked. I think Iowa is pretty darned good, if one-dimensional on offense. I'll be impressed if Nebraska beats them.
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: FearlessF on October 14, 2025, 12:13:04 PM
it's been a toss up game the past few seasons with the Hawks winning a close one.
Hopefully, the Huskers find a way like they did vs the Terps  - it's in Lincoln
Title: Re: Week 8 top-25 at a glance
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 14, 2025, 11:01:34 PM
I doubt any P4 team 5-1 at this point ends up 6-6.  Obviously it's possible and could happen but seems unlikely to me.  Somebody might have had a really front end loaded slate of pastries and goes 1-5.
It happens every year, bro.