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The Power Four => Big Ten => Topic started by: OrangeAfroMan on October 10, 2025, 07:57:35 PM
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1990-1999
We'll go back to the 70s, then the 00s, and so on. This is fun and everyone's participation makes it more fun.
I have one single "must have" on this 90s team, as he played for 47 years, some of it in the 80s.
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1990-1999
We'll go back to the 70s, then the 00s, and so on. This is fun and everyone's participation makes it more fun.
I have one single "must have" on this 90s team, as he played for 47 years, some of it in the 80s.
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LB Dat Nguyen
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Quarterback has so many...options.
Tommie Frazier or Michael Vick?
Donavan McNabb or Drew Brees?
Danny Wuerfell (sp) or Charlie Ward?
And rumor has it Peyton Manning was pretty good, even in college (not like that doofus from Michigan who got famous in the NFL).
Kordell Stewart (I think he's more of the Doug Flutie, famous throw variety)? Ryan Leaf? Jake Plummer?
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Tommie Frazier people
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Huerta a good call
Will Shields needs to be a Guard here.
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hah, Tommie outplayed Danny Wuerfell and Charlie Ward and Kordell Stewart head to head
And Peyton Manning couldn't beat Scott Frost
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Brad Maynard ball st is the punter. Id say he over Todd Sauerbrun.. I'll refrain further here .
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Huerta a good call
Will Shields needs to be a Guard here.
I was gonna put in Will but if Barry couldn't get in the 80s........ it's bogus and not worth the effort
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LB Dat Nguyen
You can add him yourself. Why is this so hard?!?
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I was gonna put in Will but if Barry couldn't get in the 80s........ it's bogus and not worth the effort
That's on you.
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1990-1999
We'll go back to the 70s, then the 00s, and so on. This is fun and everyone's participation makes it more fun.
I have one single "must have" on this 90s team, as he played for 47 years, some of it in the 80s.
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QB -Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
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K - Carlos Huerta, Miami
P - Brad Maynard, Ball St
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Quarterback has so many...options.
And rumor has it Peyton Manning was pretty good, even in college (not like that doofus from Michigan who got famous in the NFL).
Yeah, but he had worse career stats than that FB playing QB at Florida, AND Tenn won a NC the moment he left, so.....
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QB -Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
RB - Ricky Williams, Texas
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K - Carlos Huerta, Miami
P - Brad Maynard, Ball St
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QB -Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
RB - Ricky Williams, Texas
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TE - Pete Mitchell, BC
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K - Carlos Huerta, Miami
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QB -Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
RB - Ricky Williams, Texas
RB - Ron Dayne, Wisconsin
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K - Carlos Huerta, Miami
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QB -Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
RB - Ricky Williams, Texas
RB - Ron Dayne, Wisconsin
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T - Orlando Pace, Ohio State
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G -Will Shields, Nebraska
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K - Carlos Huerta, Miami
P - Brad Maynard, Ball St
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Won't need to pass with this team .
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QB -Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
RB - Ricky Williams, Texas
RB - Ron Dayne, Wisconsin
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T - Orlando Pace, Ohio State
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G -Will Shields, Nebraska
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C - Corey Raymer, Wisconsin
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K - Carlos Huerta, Miami
P - Brad Maynard, Ball St
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T - Orlando Pace, Ohio State
If there is a slam dunk on the list,he's it
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QB -Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
RB - Ricky Williams, Texas
RB - Ron Dayne, Wisconsin
WR - Randy Moss, Marshall
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G -Will Shields, Nebraska
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C - Corey Raymer, Wisconsin
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With everyone using different formatting, it’s impossible to get it in a decent version, especially with my phone. Added Randy Moss.
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QB -Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
RB - Ricky Williams, Texas
RB - Ron Dayne, Wisconsin
WR - Randy Moss, Marshall
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T - Orlando Pace, Ohio State
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G -Will Shields, Nebraska
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C - Corey Raymer, Wisconsin
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LB - Dat Nguyen, Texas A&M
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K - Carlos Huerta, Miami
P - Brad Maynard, Ball St
RET - Tim Dwight, Iowa
Adding Tim Dwight as Returner. Some might have added Rocket Ismail but both had similar stats in college with 5 kick return TDs and Tim Dwight added a KR for a TD in the Super Bowl
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super bowl TDs count!
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Y'all are just trying to piss off OAM.
And somebody already put Rocket Ishmael for the 80s returner.
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QB -Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
RB - Ricky Williams, Texas
RB - Ron Dayne, Wisconsin
WR - Randy Moss, Marshall
WR - Desmond Howard, Michigan
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T - Orlando Pace, Ohio State
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G -Will Shields, Nebraska
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C - Corey Raymer, Wisconsin
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LB - Dat Nguyen, Texas A&M
LB - LaVar Arrington, Penn State
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CB - Charles Woodson, Michigan
CB - Champ Bailey, UGA
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K - Carlos Huerta, Miami
P - Brad Maynard, Ball St
RET - Tim Dwight, Iowa
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If there is a slam dunk on the list,he's it
Charles Woodson at corner says hi.
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motion to get another QB? feel like those WR's would be wasted with Tommie Frazier and Ricky Williams and Ron Dayne are pretty good at running the ball- don't need 3 RB's here.
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QB -Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
RB - Ricky Williams, Texas
RB - Ron Dayne, Wisconsin
WR - Randy Moss, Marshall
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T - Orlando Pace, Ohio State
T - Matt Light, Purdue
G -Will Shields, Nebraska
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C - Corey Raymer, Wisconsin
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K - Carlos Huerta, Miami
P - Brad Maynard, Ball St
RET - Tim Dwight, Iowa
Adding Matt Light. Some may question this, but without him protecting Brees' blind side, I'm not sure Brees ever makes it into the Heisman conversation or Purdue to the Rose Bowl.
Not that we give credit for NFL success, but Light happens to have 3 super bowl rings protecting another QB's blind side. We don't give credit for that, but it validates that he was REALLY good and supports that perhaps he was one of the unsung heroes of a Purdue team that desperately needed him.
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motion to get another QB? feel like those WR's would be wasted with Tommie Frazier and Ricky Williams and Ron Dayne are pretty good at running the ball- don't need 3 RB's here.
Steve Spurrier approves of a two QB system here in the 90s.
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Steve Spurrier approves of a two QB system here in the 90s.
he's gotta be the ball coach of the All-90s team.
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motion to get another QB? feel like those WR's would be wasted with Tommie Frazier and Ricky Williams and Ron Dayne are pretty good at running the ball- don't need 3 RB's here.
are you referring to Brian Griese or Ryan Leaf???
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are you referring to Brian Griese or Ryan Leaf???
definitely not Brian Griese.
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he's gotta be the ball coach of the All-90s team.
unless he's coaching against Tom Osborne and his dinosaur offense
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he's gotta be the ball coach of the All-90s team.
Yes, Spurrier would be the ball coach.
But THE coach of the 90s has got to be Tom Osborne, with Bobby Bowden a distant 2nd.
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So who's your passing QB? Manning? Brees?
Gino Toretta?
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Detmer
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Detmer
His great season was 1990 and he was only a starter for one year in the 80's.
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So who's your passing QB? Manning? Brees?
Gino Toretta?
probably Brees cause I'm a B1G homer.
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unless he's coaching against Tom Osborne and his dinosaur offense
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probably Brees cause I'm a B1G homer.
I remember watching Brees in Madison, 1998. That was the first time they did Jump Around. It stuck.
Brees was 55/83 for 494 yards, 2 TD's, 4 INT.
Purdue had 570 total yards. Wisconsin had 229.
Wisconsin won 31-24.
That is so damn Purdue.
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Detmer won his Heisman while throwing 28 INTs.
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while at BYwhoo
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QB -Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
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RB - Ricky Williams, Texas
RB - Ron Dayne, Wisconsin
WR - Randy Moss, Marshall
WR - Desmond Howard, UM
TE - Pete Mitchell, BC
T - Orlando Pace, Ohio State
T - Matt Light, Purdue
G -Will Shields, Nebraska
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C - Corey Raymer, Wisconsin
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DT - John Henderson, Tenn
DT - Jared DeVries, Iowa
LB - Dat Nguyen, Texas A&M
LB - LaVar Arrington, Penn St
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CB - Charles Woodson, UM
CB - Champ Bailey, UGA
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K - Carlos Huerta, Miami
P - Brad Maynard, Ball St
RET - Tim Dwight, Iowa
copy/paste from here
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super bowl TDs count!
Well, I kinda look at it as one potential tiebreaker when college stats are roughly equal.
Kinda like college games use 2 point conversions to determine a winner after being tied after 60 minutes of regulation and 2 overtimes. You gotta figure out some way to break the tie.
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why not high school stats?
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This team had me at...
QB -Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
RB - Ricky Williams, Texas
RB - Ron Dayne, Wisconsin
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T - Orlando Pace, Ohio State
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G -Will Shields, Nebraska
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I prefer to rank/rate college players as if they all die in a plane crash the day after their last college game.
What?
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why not high school stats?
That's called G5 player stats...
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I prefer to rank/rate college players as if they all die in a plane crash the day after their last college game.
What?
Brook Berringer wins that one in the 90s
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My last one.
QB -Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
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RB - Ricky Williams, Texas
RB - Ron Dayne, Wisconsin
WR - Randy Moss, Marshall
WR - Desmond Howard, UM
TE - Pete Mitchell, BC
T - Orlando Pace, Ohio State
T - Matt Light, Purdue
G -Will Shields, Nebraska
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C - Corey Raymer, Wisconsin
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DE - Tom Burke, Wisconsin
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DT - John Henderson, Tenn
DT - Jared DeVries, Iowa
LB - Dat Nguyen, Texas A&M
LB - LaVar Arrington, Penn St
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CB - Charles Woodson, UM
CB - Champ Bailey, UGA
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K - Carlos Huerta, Miami
P - Brad Maynard, Ball St
RET - Tim Dwight, Iowa
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Burke:
21 sacks and 34 TFL's, on the way to
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He was great. He was big, but didn't look the part, wearing #74 I think. But the game starts and you're like "they should try blocking that guy!"
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I prefer to rank/rate college players as if they all die in a plane crash the day after their last college game.
What?
You're not wrong. And I know this is one of your pet peeves, that often people overweight more pedestrian careers of college players because they were NFL stars.
But it's sometimes difficult to rate players because there isn't enough parity in college football. As one of the memes said, sometimes in college football you can see a 1v1 matchup between a future NFL pro bowler and a future... accountant. It can sometimes make players statistically look much better than they are--like you point out with players against G5 competition.
I'll give you an example... Curtis Painter. Statistically, he was a VERY good QB. He bested a number of Brees' records at Purdue, and obviously this was a Big Ten team, so it's not like he was playing against G5/HS teams. Now, as a Purdue fan I can tell you from watching closely that he feasted on the weaker opponents and faded against the better ones; OTOH, Drew showed up against top competition. But as an outsider, you could use Brees' pro success as validation that his college success was evidence of his talent, and that Painter's NFL journeyman backup career as evidence that maybe he shouldn't even be in consideration for a list like this...
That's why I brought up Matt Light's NFL career. Not to say that he should be getting college credit for his time in the NFL, but more as a defense against the question of: "How good or important was he, really? Purdue averaged 8 wins a season during his 3 years as the starter?"
The defense would be that as a Purdue fan, we saw how important he was and hold him in a high regard. He was a key enabler in everything Brees' did. But additional evidence is the fact that he spent 11 years doing it at the highest level, made multiple pro bowls and had an all-pro season, on a team that won three Super Bowls during that time, and was trusted with protecting Brady's blind side. The NFL success doesn't get credited to his college performance, but it's corroborating evidence that he truly was as good as he looked in college.
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2nd QB ideas......Wuerffel, Ward, lil Joe Hamilton....idk, Manning was no Wuerffel and Brees wasn't actually that good, just had astronomical volume (ducks for cover).
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2nd QB ideas......Wuerffel, Ward, lil Joe Hamilton....idk, Manning was no Wuerffel and Brees wasn't actually that good, just had astronomical volume (ducks for cover).
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You're not wrong. And I know this is one of your pet peeves, that often people overweight more pedestrian careers of college players because they were NFL stars.
But it's sometimes difficult to rate players because there isn't enough parity in college football. As one of the memes said, sometimes in college football you can see a 1v1 matchup between a future NFL pro bowler and a future... accountant. It can sometimes make players statistically look much better than they are--like you point out with players against G5 competition.
I'll give you an example... Curtis Painter. Statistically, he was a VERY good QB. He bested a number of Brees' records at Purdue, and obviously this was a Big Ten team, so it's not like he was playing against G5/HS teams. Now, as a Purdue fan I can tell you from watching closely that he feasted on the weaker opponents and faded against the better ones; OTOH, Drew showed up against top competition. But as an outsider, you could use Brees' pro success as validation that his college success was evidence of his talent, and that Painter's NFL journeyman backup career as evidence that maybe he shouldn't even be in consideration for a list like this...
That's why I brought up Matt Light's NFL career. Not to say that he should be getting college credit for his time in the NFL, but more as a defense against the question of: "How good or important was he, really? Purdue averaged 8 wins a season during his 3 years as the starter?"
The defense would be that as a Purdue fan, we saw how important he was and hold him in a high regard. He was a key enabler in everything Brees' did. But additional evidence is the fact that he spent 11 years doing it at the highest level, made multiple pro bowls and had an all-pro season, on a team that won three Super Bowls during that time, and was trusted with protecting Brady's blind side. The NFL success doesn't get credited to his college performance, but it's corroborating evidence that he truly was as good as he looked in college.
I guess I just don't care how "good" a player is, just what he does on the field. And you take that view of Painter vs Brees, and PU fans will know that and make it known to others. That's part of the context that matters and is college-only.
I'm sure Light was great, and again, this is a low-stakes exercise. I'm not going to sit here (and we've all done a really good job of not doing this) and whine that you put Light in over a guy like Johnathan Ogden. He had a great NFL career, too, but even just in college, dude was probably the best lineman in his conference the moment he walked onto the field for the first time. But everyone knows Ogden and it's a layup, so we get Matt Light on our team and learn a little about a more unfamiliar player.
That's what makes this great. I'm thankful for it.
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Brees is a great case to study when it comes to context, expectations, history, and volume.
Was he more productive than anyone Purdue (and much of the Big Ten) ever seen? Sure. And that includes some relatively big-passers from the past - Greise.....Hermann.....Phipps!
Brees averaged 300+ yds per game for 3 years. That's crazy!
But 2 things: too many INTs. Not WAY too many, but too many (partially due to the high volume of attempts) AND a very low yards-per-attempt. Now I assume this is due to Tiller's system and that is what it is, but that combined with the INTs yields a very pedestrian pass rating. Like below-average for "name" QBs.
But the team! The team! The team!
Yes, Purdue hadn't had a winning season since 1985. BUT their jump to success and a 30+ point offense came the season before Brees was the starter. And along with that bigger offense was the best ppg defense they'd had since 1981. So with a better defense AND a big-passing offense, PU found success under Tiller they hadn't experienced in a very long time. But Tiller sustained the .500+ records after Brees left.
All that being said, Brees was better than the first QB beneficiary who started in 1997. He was novel in his volume of attempts. But I can't say he was great in any other way.
*Fun fact, even PU guys might have forgotten: Brees rushed for 546 yards his SR season, which is nuts!
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Brees is a great case to study when it comes to context, expectations, history, and volume.
Was he more productive than anyone Purdue (and much of the Big Ten) ever seen? Sure. And that includes some relatively big-passers from the past - Greise.....Hermann.....Phipps!
You forgot Chris Everett.
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I was proud I remembered Phipps, lol.
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BTW I don't forget the rushing... As I talked about in the thread where you brought up Allar's scrambling as his "best" attribute (never true of elite QBs), Drew was not a running QB, but he was athletic enough that he could [and did] run effectively when it was available.
I haven't nominated Brees as the 2nd QB on an all-decade team.
But I think you're discounting him greatly based on stats. Drew Brees was one of those "put the team on his back" guys. He just was. You might be down 2 scores in the 4th, but with Drew, you knew there was a chance. You wouldn't win them all with him, but you knew that you would pretty much lose them all without him.
Yeah, there was a scheme. That helped, especially since the B1G was not built to defend it. Yeah, there was probably the best OL Purdue's had in the last 4 decades. That's why I *did* nominate Matt Light. Yeah, they had a scrappy defense (which actually got even better 2001-2004).
But Brees was the heart. He gave fans hope every week. And that last year (2000), although the team was only 8-3 (6-2) in the regular season and in a three way tie for the conference title, he beat both Michigan and OSU on the way to that record. With Brees, the team played with no fear.
He was a gunslinger, and that's probably where a lot of the INTs come from. But he was a gunslinger, and taking his shots was also what made him great.
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For sure, thank you.
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2nd QB ideas......Wuerffel, Ward, lil Joe Hamilton....idk, Manning was no Wuerffel and Brees wasn't actually that good, just had astronomical volume (ducks for cover).
It’s Wuerffel or Manning.
Give the nod to Wuerffel for winning the head to head and the Heisman, even though Manning should have one as well.
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Good call on whoever added Big John Henderson.
I’m really trying hard not to be a Tennessee homer.
It’s all I can do to not add Al Wilson at LB.
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Wilson is deserving.
I'd go with Wuerffel at QB.
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Good call on whoever added Big John Henderson.
I’m really trying hard not to be a Tennessee homer.
It’s all I can do to not add Al Wilson at LB.
It was me! (https://tenor.com/view/it-was-me-confess-admit-fart-smelly-gif-14483983)
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That last LB spot is tough.
Fitzgerald, Wilson, Kearse, Marvin Jones, Derrick Brooks, Barrow or Armstead, Simeon Rice, Alberts.....
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Not sure who added all these names, but I was happy to see Jared DeVries added to team. I remember Devries having monster games for Iowa. He often looked like a man among boys the way he would dominate on the defensive line.
And for those that are curious, yes, Jared DeVries is the brother of Darian DeVries, the current head basketball coach for Indiana.
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It’s Wuerffel or Manning.
Give the nod to Wuerffel for winning the head to head and the Heisman, even though Manning should have one as well.
He would have, if he could beat Florida.
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Not sure who added all these names, but I was happy to see Jared DeVries added to team. I remember Devries having monster games for Iowa. He often looked like a man among boys the way he would dominate on the defensive line.
And for those that are curious, yes, Jared DeVries is the brother of Darian DeVries, the current head basketball coach for Indiana.
It was me!
(https://tenor.com/view/it-was-me-confess-admit-fart-smelly-gif-14483983)Dude was unblockable.
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I want one of those Arizona DL from the Desert Swarm on there, but we'll see.
They allowed fewer than a yard per carry in 1993...for the season!
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That last LB spot is tough.
Fitzgerald, Wilson, Kearse, Marvin Jones, Derrick Brooks, Barrow or Armstead, Simeon Rice, Alberts.....
Rice was great, but he was a DE. I's be fine with him at DE here.
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I thought they ran a 3-4 with 4 good LBS - Rice, Hardy, Howard, and
Havlicek Holecek? The white guy.
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Rice lined up pretty exclusively at DE and almost never dropped into coverage. Illinois had a weird position called RLB at that time, so technically he was listed as an LB but he really played DE - kinda like a TJ Watt-type guy.
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Yeah, a lot of teams have that position now. Buck, edge, whatever the hell. Idk, if the player is closer to 240 than he is to 270, he's a LB to me, lol.
For some reason, it reminds me of Jevon Kearse being a S in HS, LB in college, and a DE in the NFL.
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Rice played at 260-265 at Illinois.
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QB -Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
QB - Danny Wuerffel, Florida
RB - Ricky Williams, Texas
RB - Ron Dayne, Wisconsin
WR - Randy Moss, Marshall
WR - Desmond Howard, UM
TE - Pete Mitchell, BC
T - Orlando Pace, Ohio State
T - Matt Light, Purdue
G -Will Shields, Nebraska
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C - Corey Raymer, Wisconsin
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DE - Tom Burke, Wisconsin
DE - Simeon Rice, Illinois
DT - John Henderson, Tenn
DT - Jared DeVries, Iowa
LB - Dat Nguyen, Texas A&M
LB - LaVar Arrington, Penn St
LB - Pat Fitzgerald, Northwestern
CB - Charles Woodson, UM
CB - Champ Bailey, UGA
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K - Carlos Huerta, Miami
P - Brad Maynard, Ball St
RET - Tim Dwight, Iowa
let's get safe!!!
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Ken Swilling
Dale Carter
Tony Bouie
Lawyer Milloy
Greg Myers
Lawrence Wright
Anthony Poindexter
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Looking ahead to the 00s, the safeties are SICK and picking only 3 LBs will be impossible, lol
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let's get safe!!!
What about Troy Vincent one of the 1st studs to come out of Alverez stable when he was rebuilding the program.1st team All-American & made the NFL's All Rookie team after leaving Camp Randall - says a little something
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What about Troy Vincent one of the 1st studs to come out of Alverez stable when he was rebuilding the program.1st team All-American & made the NFL's All Rookie team after leaving Camp Randall - says a little something
He was a Morton recruit, and he was a CB (and a great return man).
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He was a Morton recruit, and he was a CB (and a great return man).
:67: oops,scrub that
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He played S in the NFL, during his later years, when his speed went down.
You are absolved.
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let's get safe!!!
QB -Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
QB - Danny Wuerffel, Florida
RB - Ricky Williams, Texas
RB - Ron Dayne, Wisconsin
WR - Randy Moss, Marshall
WR - Desmond Howard, UM
TE - Pete Mitchell, BC
T - Orlando Pace, Ohio State
T - Matt Light, Purdue
G -Will Shields, Nebraska
G - Alan Faneca, LSU
C - Corey Raymer, Wisconsin
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DE - Tom Burke, Wisconsin
DE - Simeon Rice, Illinois
DT - John Henderson, Tenn
DT - Jared DeVries, Iowa
LB - Dat Nguyen, Texas A&M
LB - LaVar Arrington, Penn St
LB - Pat Fitzgerald, Northwestern
CB - Charles Woodson, UM
CB - Champ Bailey, UGA
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K - Carlos Huerta, Miami
P - Brad Maynard, Ball St
RET - Tim Dwight, Iowa
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well for Safeties you could say Ed Reed,Roy Williams,Sean Tayor,Troy Polamalu, Mike Doss,Phillip Darren Buchanon but all of them seem to straddle '98-'02.So best years were mostly in this century we can try:
Tyrone Carter from Minnesota, he was a first-team All-American in 1998, and a consensus first-team All-American in 1999. Won the 1999 Jim Thorpe Award for best defensive back in college football, and was a finalist for the 1999 Bronko Nagurski Trophy.
Deon Grant - played for the Volunteers from 1997 to 1999. He was selected as a consensus first-team All-American in 1999 after he tied for the NCAA lead with nine interceptions for 167 return yards. He finished the 1999 season with 69 tackles and eight pass breakups. He had two picks in three different games and earned SEC Defensive Player of the week after intercepting three passes versus Auburn. His leaping interception in UT's overtime win over Florida in 1998 was a crucial play in the Vols' march to the BCS National Championship that season
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Roy Williams was definitely more of a 2000s player than a 90s player I'd say.
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Roy Williams was definitely more of a 2000s player than a 90s player I'd say.
yeah so were Ed Reed, Sean Taylor, and Troy P.
that 2000s team gonna be lit at safety.
Sean Taylor is the best safety I've ever seen play the game of football, no disrespect to anyone else.
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You can add him yourself. Why is this so hard?!?
Lazy AF. No other explanation.
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I skipped a bunch of pages, but how do you not have Shane Lechner as punter? I never even heard of the guy listed, but I confess I couldn't tell you who our current punter is right now. Guy played in the NFL too until just a few years ago, well into the 2010's.
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That last LB spot is tough.
Fitzgerald, Wilson, Kearse, Marvin Jones, Derrick Brooks, Barrow or Armstead, Simeon Rice, Alberts.....
Not that I followed them much, but wasn't Katzenmoyer (or however you spelled his name) a great LB at the time as well? Ohio State guy.
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I skipped a bunch of pages, but how do you not have Shane Lechner as punter?
because you didn't put him on the team
I never even heard of the guy listed, but I confess I couldn't tell you who our current punter is right now. Guy played in the NFL stop stop stop too until just a few years ago, well into the 2010's.
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Tyrone Carter was a CB, which is weird because he was such a good tackler.
I know he was lauded and all, but I saw Deon Grant A LOT, and he was a bitch. He didn't like to hit. He's not going on my team, but you guys can do what you want.
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Shit, with this defense, I don't even know if we need safeties.
We have both a quick/twitchy pass-rusher and a big-bodied one.
We have a behemoth at DT, and a quick, slippery one.
There's 2 MLBs who will track down everyone in sight plus a freak just to unleash.
And 2 legendary CBs who found being All-American at one position so easy, they played some offense, too.
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I'm thinking of Tripp Welborne of UM at safety. He was unanimous AA in both 89 and 90. He was also their punt returner, pretty rare for a safety.
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I'm thinking of Tripp Welborne of UM at safety. He was unanimous AA in both 89 and 90. He was also their punt returner, pretty rare for a safety.
he was a phenomenal player, but more of an 80s guy as he played 2 years in the 80s and only one in the 1990s- and suffered a catastrophic career ending knee injury in 1990 which made him free fall in the NFL draft from probably a top 10 pick to end of the 7th round. believe he re-injured the same knee twice in the pros and never played a down. and this was way before the knee surgeries were anywhere near as good as they are today.
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I know all about Lechler. You could've added him. Maynard had a decorated college career and let's face it cool to get a MAC player on here.
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The only 2 Thorpe winners at safety were Colorado State's Greg Myers and Florida's Lawrence Wright. Wright was a HUGE hitter, but had zero INTs in the year he won the award.
I can add them both if no one has anyone better.
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i'm not trying to be homer central on this, but the team of the 90s would be justified with 3 guys. if you want to add Mike Brown, Nebraska.
one time AA, yes, he played right out of the gates as a Freshman mostly CB, and probably started forty games at least at Safety. all four years, i think he probably had 10 ints.
nothing wrong with Wright and Evans though.
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AND Mike Brown had a helluva NFL career!!!!
hah!
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AND Mike Brown had a helluva NFL career!!!!
hah!
(https://i.imgur.com/ASEDV2u.jpeg) :57:
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i'm not trying to be homer central on this, but the team of the 90s would be justified with 3 guys. if you want to add Mike Brown, Nebraska.
one time AA, yes, he played right out of the gates as a Freshman mostly CB, and probably started forty games at least at Safety. all four years, i think he probably had 10 ints.
nothing wrong with Wright and Evans though.
Now I'm curious about this Evans guy..... lol
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Genuine question: what is the gap between Mike Brown and Ralph Brown?
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Mike Brown :::::
Selected in the second round of the 2000 NFL Draft by Chicago
May, 2000 Graduate in Business Administration
1999 Co-Captain
1999 First-Team All-American (Football Writers, CBS Sportsline, AP)
1999 Jim Thorpe Award Candidate
1999 Bronko Nagurski Defensive Player-of-the-Year Candidate
1999 Big 12 Defensive Player of the Week vs. Iowa, Texas A&M, Kansas State
1999 First-Team All-Big 12 (AP, Coaches)
1999 Guy Chamberlain Trophy Senior Award Winner
Three-Time GTE/CoSIDA Academic All-America Nominee (1997, 1998, 1999)
Three-Time First-Team Academic All-Big 12 (1997, 1998, 1999)
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Ralph Brown::::::::::::::::
Selected in the fifth round of the 2000 NFL Draft by the New York Giants
December, 1999 Graduate in Communication Studies
1999 Co-Captain
1999 First-Team All-American (Walter Camp, Football News, Sporting News, ABC/BCS.com, Football Foundation)
1999 Jim Thorpe Award Semifinalist
Three-Time Jim Thorpe Award Candidate (1997, 1998, 1999)
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Soooooo......this?
(https://i.imgur.com/A7FTS7G.jpeg)
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Evans... Myers.
220...221 whatever it takes to fill this roster.
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the Browns weren't related - as far as they knew
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QB -Tommie Frazier, Nebraska
QB - Danny Wuerffel, Florida
RB - Ricky Williams, Texas
RB - Ron Dayne, Wisconsin
WR - Randy Moss, Marshall
WR - Desmond Howard, UM
TE - Pete Mitchell, BC
T - Orlando Pace, Ohio State
T - Matt Light, Purdue
G -Will Shields, Nebraska
G - Alan Faneca, LSU
C - Corey Raymer, Wisconsin
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DE - Tom Burke, Wisconsin
DE - Simeon Rice, Illinois
DT - John Henderson, Tenn
DT - Jared DeVries, Iowa
LB - Dat Nguyen, Texas A&M
LB - LaVar Arrington, Penn St
LB - Pat Fitzgerald, Northwestern
CB - Charles Woodson, UM
CB - Champ Bailey, UGA
S - Mike Brown, Nebraska
S - Lawrence Wright, Florida
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K - Carlos Huerta, Miami
P - Brad Maynard, Ball St
RET - Tim Dwight, Iowa