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The Power Four => Big Ten => Topic started by: medinabuckeye1 on October 05, 2025, 09:43:57 PM
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- 5-0 Ohio State -14.5 at #17 Illinois Saturday at noon on FOX
- 5-0 Miami is off
- 5-0 Oregon -7.5 vs #7 Indiana Saturday at 3:30 on CBS
- 5-0 Ole Miss -32.5 vs WaSt Saturday at 12:45 on SECN
- 5-0 aTm -8.5 vs Florida Saturday at 7 on ESPN
- 5-0 Oklahoma +2.5 vs Texas at the Cotton Bowl in Dallas Saturday at 3:30 on ABC
- 5-0 Indiana +7.5 at #3 Oregon Saturday at 3:30 on CBS
- 4-1 Alabama -3.5 at #14 Mizzou Saturday at noon on ABC
- 5-0 TxTech -14.5 vs Kansas Saturday at 7:30 on FOX
- 4-1 Georgia -3.5 at Auburn Saturday at 7:30 on ABC
- 4-1 LSU -9.5 vs USCe Saturday at 7:45 on SECN
- 4-1 Tennessee -12.5 vs Arkansas Saturday at 4:15 on SECN
- 5-0 GaTech -14.5 vs VaTech Saturday at 3:30 on ACCN
- 5-0 Mizzou +3.5 vs #8 Bama Saturday at noon on ABC
- 4-1 Michigan +1.5 at USC Saturday at 7:30 on NBC
- 3-2 Notre Dame -22.5 vs NCST Saturday at 3:30 on Peacock
- 5-1 Illinois +14.5 vs #1 Ohio State Saturday at noon on FOX
- 5-0 BYU -2.5 at Arizona Saturday at 8 on ESPN2
- 5-1 Virginia is off
- 5-1 Vanderbilt is off
- 4-1 Arizona State +4.5 at Utah Saturday at 10:15 on ESN
- 5-1 Iowa State -4.5 at Colorado Saturday at 3:30 on ESPN
- 6-0 Memphis is off
- 4-1 South Florida -24.5 at North Texas Friday at 7:30 on ESPN2
- 3-2 Florida State -9.5 vs Pitt Saturday at noon on ESPN
This is a big weekend. #1, 3, 7, 8, 14, and 17 are playing ranked teams (each other) and additionally #5 is playing a team that just took out a top-10 team, #6 is an underdog to a previously ranked team, #10 is barely favored, #15 is an underdog, #18 is barely favored, and #21 is an underdog.
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Crazy they dropped Texas from the Top 25. Penn state too.
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I'd take Texas @ South Florida, but maybe not PSU
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Crazy they dropped Texas from the Top 25. Penn state too.
Penn State I get. Losing to a winless team is bad even if it is on the West Coast. Texas is more debatable.
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Penn State I get. Losing to a winless team is bad even if it is on the West Coast. Texas is more debatable.
100%. Penn State has no business or argument for a top 25 ranking. They haven't beaten a P4 opponent yet and their 3 wins were vs JV sisters of the poor- they played the biggest joke of an OOC schedule of any P4 contender in the nation- and they lost at home to Oregon in a game they were getting dominated in for 95% of the game. It was a miracle they even got it into OT and soon as they did their 4th year starting SR QB Allar threw a pick to lose the game. And now they just lost to the worst team in the P4 in a game they were 4 TD favorites in. And they never had a lead for a single second in that game vs a team that never had a lead in a single second in their previous 4 losses. UCLA is truly awful.
Texas also hasn't beaten any P4 teams- but at least in their losses they went on the road into Columbus in Week 1 in their first loss to the #1 team in the country and lost by 1 score. Texas' other loss was not as close as the score indicated- but it was still a one score game in the Swamp- one of the toughest environments to play a road game in the SEC- and vs a UF team that while had been awful on offense all season- still had an excellent defense that is filled with future NFL players. Forget about defense- UCLA's entire roster might not have a single future NFL player on it.
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Florida just played 3 top 10 teams in a row (at time of game, obviously).
We have 4 more top 12 teams left to play.
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just be thankful ya gotta win vs one of them
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For all his faults, I guess Napier is now 4-1 vs top 10 foes at the Swamp. That's cool.
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For all his faults, I guess Napier is now 4-1 vs top 10 foes at the Swamp. That's cool.
I'll trade ya coaches. I'll even throw in an AD.
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not sure I'd be ready to trade coaches, jury still out on Rhule...........
but the last time the Huskers beat a top 10 ranked team was 2015 vs Sparty in Lincoln
Sparty finished the season 12–2, 7–1 in Big Ten play
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On the other hand, Napier is 1-9 vs top 10 teams away from the Swamp.
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winning on the road is tough, winning on the road against top 10 caliber teams is VERY tough
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1-9 is unacceptable
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Wisconsin hasn't beaten a P4 team for almost a year now.
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We (myself included) often complain about ESPN's apparent SEC bias so time to give credit when credit is due.
There are plausible arguments for Bama at Mizzou, the Red River shootout, or UGA at Auburn but GameDay will be in Eugene on Saturday for Indiana at Oregon.
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sorry, no credit
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Compare Texas' record with Notre Dame.
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Compare Texas' record with Notre Dame.
Florida State.
Outside of what now looks to be a fluke win against Bama, what have they done?
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Compare Texas' record with Notre Dame.
(https://i.imgur.com/sqI3Vrz.png)
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Who cares what the actual number is, it was just a dumb idea in general. Just a few weeks ago USF beat Florida in Gainesville.
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USF prolly in the top half of the 135, only loss @ Miami
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Who cares what the actual number is, it was just a dumb idea in general. Just a few weeks ago USF beat Florida in Gainesville.
They took a bus and the crowd wasn't amped. And other excuses. :72:
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Texas being favored by 2.5 points on a neutral site over Oklahoma is wild to me. get that John Mateer is probably out- but Arch and that Texas OL struggled mightily vs a very capable and talented Florida defensive front. Florida's defense is really good. But it's not the elite cream of the crop. Oklahoma's defense is just that. Oklahoma's defense is maybe the best in the country. Rivalry game and all- throw out the records and stats....but have a feeling OU's defensive front is going to feast.
https://twitter.com/mhouckOU/status/1974906674063499270
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Texas being favored by 2.5 points on a neutral site over Oklahoma is wild to me. get that John Mateer is probably out- but Arch and that Texas OL struggled mightily vs a very capable and talented Florida defensive front. Florida's defense is really good. But it's not the elite cream of the crop. Oklahoma's defense is just that. Oklahoma's defense is maybe the best in the country. Rivalry game and all- throw out the records and stats....but have a feeling OU's defensive front is going to feast.
https://twitter.com/mhouckOU/status/1974906674063499270
Ohio State >>>>> Michigan last year, too. And so it goes.
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Ohio State >>>>> Michigan last year, too. And so it goes.
yup, throw out all the records and rankings in the big rivalry games.
that line probably looks different if Mateer is healthy.
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yup, throw out all the records and rankings in the big rivalry games.
that line probably looks different if Mateer is healthy.
For sure.
Right now Texas doesn't do anything well. Or really even average. Even with OU's backup QB it's hard for me to see a path to victory for Texas.
But, worse Texas teams have beaten better OU teams in the past, and vice versa.
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(https://i.imgur.com/pQmtDMm.png)
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For sure.
Right now Texas doesn't do anything well. Or really even average. Even with OU's backup QB it's hard for me to see a path to victory for Texas.
But, worse Texas teams have beaten better OU teams in the past, and vice versa.
OU's OL is still pretty mediocre- and they struggle to run the ball with their RB's. The Cal transfer who was the #3 rated RB in the porthole that everyone just assumed would be a stud Jaydn Ott has barely played and when he has he hasn't done much. Mateer was a huge part of their run game. Their backup QB Hawkins is pretty awful imo.
On paper this should be a classic defensive battle, low scoring 13-10 type game or something. Team that can take care of the football, run the ball efficiently, and play rock solid special teams will win. OU's special teams have been pretty iffy and they don't run the ball nearly as well without Mateer.
There is also an urgency/desperation factor. Texas is a bit of a wounded animal right now- they need a win here a lot more and Sark might be coaching for his job a little bit- a big win here would help salvage things and keep the season from spiraling down the drain.
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But, worse Texas teams have beaten better OU teams in the past, and vice versa.
What's the biggest upset for each team in your lifetime?
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What's the biggest upset for each team in your lifetime?
Good question, I'm not sure. I'd have to go back and look.
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per ESPN's Pete Thameltoe....John Mateer trying to return for Red River Rivalry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Who48S9FIc
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who the hell had this on their bingo card before the season? not me. have to admit was a big believer in Arch pre-season and Sark is known for being a QB guru with high flying passing attacks.
https://twitter.com/CFBwSam/status/1975597480097034635
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who the hell had this on their bingo card before the season? not me. have to admit was a big believer in Arch pre-season and Sark is known for being a QB guru with high flying passing attacks.
https://twitter.com/CFBwSam/status/1975597480097034635
Yeah it's pretty surprising, and embarrassing, for the folks responsible for the incredible disappointment.
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B10 quarterbacks surprisingly competent. 5 of the top 6 nationally in QBR. Sayin leads the country in completion percentage.
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B10 quarterbacks surprisingly competent. 5 of the top 6 nationally in QBR. Sayin leads the country in completion percentage.
B1G has 3 guys in the top 10 in QBR in FBS out of 138 ranked QB's.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/qbr
Jayden Maiava, USC #1
Luke Altmeyer, Illinois #6
Julian Sayin, OSU #8
3 more in the top 20:
Desmond Williams, Washington #12
Fernando Mendoza, IU #14
Dante Moore, Oregon #18
Only other B1G QB that makes the cut in the top 30 is Aidan Chiles at #28th.
Bryce Underwood just outside top 30 nationally- makes the list at 32nd. highest graded freshman however and the only QB in the B1G to have faced two top 10 rated SP+ defenses (OU, #2 rated defense in SP+ & Nebraska, #10 rated defense in SP+)- which were both road games- and the OU game being at night in his second ever start and first ever road start. Hey, maybe he's pretty good.
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B1G has 3 guys in the top 10 in QBR in FBS out of 138 ranked QB's.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/qbr
Jayden Maiava, USC #1
Luke Altmeyer, Illinois #6
Julian Sayin, OSU #8
3 more in the top 20:
Desmond Williams, Washington #12
Fernando Mendoza, IU #14
Dante Moore, Oregon #18
Only other B1G QB that makes the cut in the top 30 is Aidan Chiles at #28th.
Bryce Underwood just outside top 30 nationally- makes the list at 32nd. highest graded freshman however and the only QB in the B1G to have faced two top 10 rated SP+ defenses (OU, #2 rated defense in SP+ & Nebraska, #10 rated defense in SP+)- which were both road games- and the OU game being at night in his second ever start and first ever road start. Hey, maybe he's pretty good.
I don't believe in ESPN outside of SP+
https://cfbstats.com/2025/leader/national/player/split01/category02/sort02.html
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I can't recall a bigger flop in college that Arch. I know things can turn around, maybe it's in his head now, maybe he's frustrated (I'm sure) and can't clear data.
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I can't recall a bigger flop in college that Arch. I know things can turn around, maybe it's in his head now, maybe he's frustrated (I'm sure) and can't clear data.
yeah, I can't either. i will admit i thought he looked excellent as a recruit and with the background, pedigree he was going to be a stud. also thought he really popped and flashed in the moments he got in the last 2 years as the backup. he's also a really talented athlete at 6'4"+ who can really run- has some quick twitch/juice to him. thought with him being a JR and having 3 years now in the Sark system and with his background/pedigree that he was ready for prime time and to break out as a superstar. boy was i wrong. just another reminder to never believe it til ya see it. guys have to go out and prove it on the field all season long before you crown them.
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Ron Powlus?
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Justin Zwick
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I thought the questions about his competition in high school were legit. But they ran off Quinn Ewers so I figured the coaching staff knew he was an upgrade. The man can't hit a crossing route.
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He's not as good as his uncles. I think that's all we can say at this point. He still has time.
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if history is any indication this should be a FG game....
https://twitter.com/MBrooks02/status/1975582889224937688
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if he plays....wow.
https://twitter.com/CFBRep/status/1976441213051085270
Arch is going up against the best pass rush he's seen yet....
https://twitter.com/ESPNInsights/status/1976373754461651150
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I took the Boomers - it hurt me to do it
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I took the Boomers - it hurt me to do it
was leaning Texas bc OU backup stinks, but if Mateer actually plays and is even close to 75% that changes things.
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https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17Suk4FoTL/
Wasn't sure where to put this but I enjoyed it.