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The Power Four => Big Ten => Topic started by: Mdot21 on October 05, 2025, 12:09:43 PM
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USC opens as a 1.5 point home favorite. Vegas thinks it's basically a pick 'em game- and Michigan would be the betting favorite if the game was in Ann Arbor or on a neutral site. O/U is 54.5 points.
USC is coming off the bye week after it's defense gave up over 500 yards to Illinois. Can USC stop the run and play physical B1G football? USC features one of the best WR's in the country in Makai Lemon and QB Jayden Maiava is playing great football and is one of the top QB's in the B1G. Michigan has not seen the type of passing attack yet that USC brings to the table, but USC also has not seen the type of defense or run game that Michigan brings to the table.
Sherrone Moore put the running training wheels back on Bryce Underwood vs Wisconsin. They called no designed runs or read options and Bryce didn't really scramble when he had open lanes. Moore needs to tell Underwood to cut it loose if he sees open run lanes and he needs to call run plays designed for Underwood and read options as well. Underwood could go for 100+ on the ground vs USC IF Sherrone Moore allows him to run the ball.
This is a huge game for both programs. USC has 5 game stretch after this where they go @Notre Dame, @Nebraska, Northwestern, Iowa, and then @Oregon. If they drop this one at home- have a tough time seeing them doing any better than 8-4 max. It's almost a must win game for them if Lincoln Riley wants any hope of making a playoff or B1G 'chip run. Can Lincoln Riley win a big game and can he coach a defense that isn't a sieve?
On the flip side for Michigan- can Sherrone Moore win a huge road game (other than Ohio State that is)? Is his true freshman QB ready for this moment? Will his WR's stop dropping the fucking ball? His overall road record is not great- but if they can pull off the minor upset and win and survive and continue to develop Bryce Underwood, their next 5 game stretch after this is home vs Washington, @Michigan State, home vs Purdue, @Northwestern, and @Maryland. They pull this off and go to 5-1 they'll have a great shot of building momentum and potentially heading into Ann Arbor 10-1 with a massive showdown vs Ohio State for all the marbles.
Biggest game thus far by far for both teams. USC and Lincoln Riley needs it more and it is at home- if it was anywhere else I'd pick Michigan, but because it's on the road and USC will be desperate and need it or they are done and Riley will be feeling the hot seat like no other- kind of has me leaning USC. One thing that has me holding out hope for Michigan though is USC is coming off a bye- and teams coming off byes usually slow to start and sloppy with rust to shake off- and the other thing of course is USC's defense- they haven't stopped anybody all season or really ever under Lincoln Riley.
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Michigan just faced one of the best front 7's it will see all year and managed to run more than anyone has.
Michigan will run all over USC and that Charmin soft "defense" out there.
The only concern, as always, is the travel. Shouldn't be too bad for M - much closer than PSU or MD or Rutgers, for sure.
Really wish the expansion a) didn't happen or b) went to the South.
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Michigan just faced one of the best front 7's it will see all year and managed to run more than anyone has.
Michigan will run all over USC and that Charmin soft "defense" out there.
The only concern, as always, is the travel. Shouldn't be too bad for M - much closer than PSU or MD or Rutgers, for sure.
Really wish the expansion a) didn't happen or b) went to the South.
that is true, while Wisconsin struggles on the back end right now- Wisconsin does have a really good defensive front. They have lot of guys on that DL that Michigan tried recruiting. Michigan won't see a defensive front as good as Wisconsin's the rest of the year until they have to play Ohio State in Ann Arbor at the end of the season. And they ran for almost 180 on Wisconsin without involving Underwood in the run game plan. Sherrone threw the bubble wrap and training wheels back on Underwood running the ball soon as he got back. As good as Michigan's run is with Haynes and Marshall- it goes to a whole other level when you involve Underwood and when defenses have to account for the QB run.
The travel is definitely a concern. Going cross country changing 3 different time zones sucks. Thankfully it's a 7:30ET / 4:30PT kick.
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this is wild to me...and I'd like to know what plays of 20+ yards, 40+, and 50+ are in 5 games vs 13 games last year.
https://twitter.com/ByAZuniga/status/1974863114412896735
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PFF stats on Michigan's WR's....
Donoven McCulley:
29 Targets
19 Catches
309 Yards (16.3 YPC)
3 TD's
0 Drops
13.5 Yards Average Depth of Target
Semaj Morgan:
24 Targets
16 Catches
187 Yards (11.7 YPC)
1 TD
5 Drops
3.6 Yards Average Depth of Target
Channing Goodwin:
18 Targets
7 Catches
112 Yards (16 YPC)
0 TD
4 Drops
13 Yards Average Depth of Target
Andrew Marsh:
6 Targets
5 Catches
110 Yards (22 YPC)
0 TD
0 Drops
13.7 Yards Average Depth of Target
This tells me two things: Semaj Morgan sucks and Channing Goodwin might actually be a decent WR if he could hang onto the damn football. Nine drops between these two- both of whom have been starters until the Wisconsin game when Andrew Marsh got the start over both. A 3.6 yard average depth of target and 5 drops is insanely pathetic on Semaj Morgan's part. 11.7 YPC is also pretty pedestrian as well.
McCulley is a startable scholarship B1G WR at this level. He's not an Ohio State 1st round freak- but he's more than good enough for this level. Andrew Marsh was a hot-shot high 4* top 100 overall player in the nation recruit out of Texas- and it shows why. He's shown more in one start than Semaj Morgan has in 3 years of playing time. McCulley and Marsh are basically the only WR's you have on the roster that are playable right now. And this is incredibly scary.
How in the fuck these coaches actually recruited Semaj Morgan out of high school in the Metro Detroit area but not Deion Burkes (Oklahoma), Nick Marsh (MSU), CJ Sadler (UNC), or Samson Gash (MSU)- is motherfucking beyond me. Beyond me. I know they tried recruiting Nick Marsh a little- but it wasn't balls to the wall sell your sell like they did for Bryce Underwood- and that was a GIANT fucking mistake because that kid is a future NFL draft pick WR. The other 3 guys- they didn't even recruit at all- but they recruited Semaj Morgan heavily- and that literally boggles my fucking mind. WR coach Ron Bellamy has to be fired in the off-season and replaced. He just flat out has to be. You cannot waste Bryce Underwood with more poor WR recruiting and development- have to go hire the best WR coach money can buy and spend in the portal on WR's like there is no limit.
Goodwin *might* still become a player- he is still only a RS Frosh and he's got decent size/speed, runs nice routes, and blocks his ass off- he just has to catch the god damn ball when it hits both hands. And he's not doing that- which is a major problem. If you can touch it- you can catch it. Period. No excuses. Otherwise you don't belong at this level- you belong in the MAC or D2/D3 ball.
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this is also pretty crazy... to go from dead last to #57 and in the top half of FBS with a true freshman QB AND with all the drops from these WR's is pretty wild. shows just how god awful the QB play was last year.
https://twitter.com/isaiahhole/status/1974985860102979688
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I think this game is huge not just in the B1G but nationally.
Starting in the B1G:
Michigan has a loss but it was OOC so they are still undefeated in the league and if they win this they'll be heavy favorites all the way until the Buckeyes come to town Turkey-Day weekend. They just might win that again but even if they don't, 8-1 probably gets them into the B1GCG. With a loss here, they'd need no upsets of themselves and a big upset of Ohio State to get to the B1GCG.
The Trojans already have a league loss (Illinois) and they still have to play Oregon in Autzen so I see this as an absolute must-win for USC's B1GCG hopes.
Nationally this game might make the biggest difference to Notre Dame. A lot of people objected to the Irish being ranked at 0-2 and I'm certainly no ND fan but it made sense to me. You can say that they lost to the only two ranked teams that they played and that is true but in their defense they weren't bad losses:
- They lost by 3 on the road at night to the current #2 team
- They lost by 1 at home to the current #5 team.
The problem for ND is that they desperately need a quality win. As it stands today, they ONLY ranked teams on their schedule are the ones that they started 0-2 against. A USC win over Michigan would seriously help the Irish in the quality win department, assuming that the Irish beat the Trojans.
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I think this game is huge not just in the B1G but nationally.
Starting in the B1G:
Michigan has a loss but it was OOC so they are still undefeated in the league and if they win this they'll be heavy favorites all the way until the Buckeyes come to town Turkey-Day weekend. They just might win that again but even if they don't, 8-1 probably gets them into the B1GCG. With a loss here, they'd need no upsets of themselves and a big upset of Ohio State to get to the B1GCG.
The Trojans already have a league loss (Illinois) and they still have to play Oregon in Autzen so I see this as an absolute must-win for USC's B1GCG hopes.
Nationally this game might make the biggest difference to Notre Dame. A lot of people objected to the Irish being ranked at 0-2 and I'm certainly no ND fan but it made sense to me. You can say that they lost to the only two ranked teams that they played and that is true but in their defense they weren't bad losses:
- They lost by 3 on the road at night to the current #2 team
- They lost by 1 at home to the current #5 team.
The problem for ND is that they desperately need a quality win. As it stands today, they ONLY ranked teams on their schedule are the ones that they started 0-2 against. A USC win over Michigan would seriously help the Irish in the quality win department, assuming that the Irish beat the Trojans.
yeah, definitely a sneaky huge game with major implication for a game with one team only ranked 15th vs a currently unranked team.
this is also a huge game for Lincoln Riley. he's under immense pressure there with that $100 million contract and it's year 4 and he wasn't won anything there, went 7-6 last year and 8-5 the year before that, never been to the playoff and has had some truly great offenses but comically bad defenses that couldn't stop a JV high school team. And @Notre Dame, @Nebraska, and @Oregon are all going to be tricky games for him to win with that defense. If he drops this one at home to Michigan he's 4-2 on the season staring at another potential 5 loss season and in real danger of losing his job. They lose 5 games this year there's a chance he's fired and if he's not he'll be coaching for his job every game in 2026.
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I’ve been underwhelmed by Michigan’s pass rush when it comes to containing and pressuring slippery QBs like Maiava. Michigan’s DBs need to stick to USC’s ball catchers like peanut butter to the roof of your mouth because Maiava can extend plays. Quick TDs on coverage busts can negate Michigan’s run game.
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I’ve been underwhelmed by Michigan’s pass rush when it comes to containing and pressuring slippery QBs like Maiava. Michigan’s DBs need to stick to USC’s ball catchers like peanut butter to the roof of your mouth because Maiava can extend plays. Quick TDs on coverage busts can negate Michigan’s run game.
what are you going on about? Michigan's pass rush has faced exactly one QB all season that was mobile in John Mateer. They only sacked Mateer once- should've had him sacked at least 5 times and had him dead to rights more times than I can count and he Houdini'd out of that shit like the magician that he is. Every other QB they've faced they've gotten on the ground multiple times a game for sacks or TFL's.
Maiava is a really good QB with more mobility than you'd think- but he's not a run threat and he is NOWHERE near the twitched up explosive athlete that John Mateer is. Not even in the same universe.
This game for Michigan on defense will come down to how smart Wink Martindale will call his defense. If he can keep his fucking dick in his pants and not bring blitzes every god damn fucking snap- Michigan will be fine. Especially with Rod Moore back at free safety patrolling the skies. Rush 4 90% of the time, SIMULATE pressure, play zone coverage with the DB's mostly cover 3 and quarters- Michigan will win the game comfortably imo. If Wink goes back to thinking he's Dr. Blitz AKA Don Brown then USC will absolutely GASH Michigan in the pass game. They do not have the type of CB's that thrive playing man to man right now. Make USC drive the length of the field- don't give them any free big plays.
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he's not lying. that stadium will be half Michigan fans. still a little dumb of him to say out loud to the media.
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per Sherrone Moore, he's changing up the travel plans out west vs last year when they had to go out to Washington- this year for this game Michigan will be flying out earlier- on Thursday now to get used to the time zone change- and they will hold practice Friday at The Bolt- the state-of-the-art facility of the LA Chargers.
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Rhule is flyin to Maryland on Thursday after practice
instead of Friday morning like last season
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no surprise here. Link is a guard playing LT and Semaj Morgan is a 5'7, 175 pound midget with 4.6 speed who isn't exactly quick and who drops passes multiple times a game.
https://twitter.com/JamesYoder/status/1975225872954368095
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Illinois- the 64th ranked Total Offense put up 500+ yards and 34 points- and would've had almost 50 points on USC's defense without those two fumbles near the goal.
https://twitter.com/isaiahhole/status/1975345737870549427
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Illinois, luckily, has a kicker
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Illinois, luckily, has a kicker
so does Michigan. although he's missed a couple gimmes under 30 yards that he never misses. still pretty automatic from 40-55 yards.
punter? yeesh. that's another story.
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per Sherrone Moore, he's changing up the travel plans out west vs last year when they had to go out to Washington- this year for this game Michigan will be flying out earlier- on Thursday now to get used to the time zone change- and they will hold practice Friday at The Bolt- the state-of-the-art facility of the LA Chargers.
The Bolt...I wonder how they managed to make that happen? /s
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TE1 Marlin Klein said he feels like he's 100% healthy now.
this is also big news....Sherrone says starting LG Gio El-Hadi and TE2 Hogan Hansen are probable vs USC.
https://twitter.com/isaiahhole/status/1975226259912450188
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Neutral field, I would take Michigan, no questions asked. But the trip to the west coast continues to screw with teams
USC 30, Michigan 24
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Neutral field, I would take Michigan, no questions asked. But the trip to the west coast continues to screw with teams
USC 30, Michigan 24
i think the travel thing is kinda overblown and used an excuse/crutch. it only makes a real difference imo if you have a team from the west going to the east and having to play a game at noon ET and the visiting teams body clock is still 9am PT. or vice versa having a team like Michigan State go out to the West Coast and play a game at 8pm PT when their body clock is at 11pm ET.
Michigan is leaving earlier- Thursday this time- which will help them adjust better to the time zone change and recover from the jet lag- and the game is being played at 4:30pm PT- and these kids are used to playing multiple games a year at 7:30pm ET.
home field advantage is a real thing in college football- and that's why I'm slightly leaning to USC. if USC wins it'll be because they played a good game- not because Michigan had to travel.
only thing that makes me think Michigan might win- keep going back to Illinois putting up 500+ yards and they should've had 48 points in that one vs USC- and Illinois isn't exactly a world beater offense. Illinois ran for 170+ yards vs USC- and Illinois is the 99th ranked rushing offense in CFB. Michigan is a top 10 rush offense- both in YPC and total yards- and that's with them barely involving their absolute freakshow athlete QB and playing two top 5 rush defenses in CFB- OU and Wisconsin- and they got 150 on the ground vs OU and 175 on the ground vs Wisconsin- and they never even tried to use Underwood's legs in the run game in either of those games. They unleash his legs vs USC- there is a good chance they could rush for 250-300 imo.
Bryce Underwood continues to gain experience and improve week to week and athletically he is on a different level than pretty much every other QB in CFB. McCulley is actually a pretty good WR and Andrew Marsh the true freshman might be as well. OL/run game continues to improve every week and has been very consistent. Gio El-Hadi coming back at LG, TE1 Marlin Klein being 100%, and TE2 Hogan Hansen coming back would be a huge shot in the arm for this offense this game- the offense just goes up another notch with those 3 in the line-up and healthy.
defense + run game travels. my only real questions are will they actually use Underwood's legs in the game plan on designed runs and read option- and can Wink Martindale keep his dick in his fucking pants and not go blitz happy every fucking snap. I feel like Sherrone is either too mediocre of a coach to realize the obvious staring him right in the face or too pussy and afraid or both- and that he won't unleash Underwood's legs in the run game and that he won't slap training wheels on Wink Martindale.
Just use the kids legs and you're gonna get 250-300 on the ground- and DO NOT go blitz heavy vs USC because they will straight up gash you. Play zone coverage and patrol the skies- make them try to drive the length of the field and earn it- don't give up big chunk free plays because you sent the house and the QB hit the open man. Wink can't fucking help himself sometimes though. He doesn't realize sometimes that his pass rush is good enough to get home with 4. Jaishawn Barham is a demon off the edge and Derrick Moore is pretty damn good himself. Let them rush- let the LB's and DB's drop in coverage.
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i think the travel thing is kinda overblown and used an excuse/crutch. it only makes a real difference imo if you have a team from the west going to the east and having to play a game at noon ET and the visiting teams body clock is still 9am PT. or vice versa having a team like Michigan State go out to the West Coast and play a game at 8pm PT when their body clock is at 11pm ET.
Michigan is leaving earlier- Thursday this time- which will help them adjust better to the time zone change and recover from the jet lag- and the game is being played at 4:30pm PT- and these kids are used to playing multiple games a year at 7:30pm ET.
home field advantage is a real thing in college football- and that's why I'm slightly leaning to USC. if USC wins it'll be because they played a good game- not because Michigan had to travel.
We've done enough statistical analysis to say that HFA is definitely a real thing and travelling across multiple time zones makes it bigger.
I disagree with your unsupported assertion that it "only makes a real difference" based on time/travel distance. My argument, and the data bears it out, is that it makes the biggest difference in games like this that are relatively even matchups. I agree with @ELA (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=55) here in that I would take Michigan on a neutral field but USC is a legitimate challenge, close enough for HFA to push them over the top I think.
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Sherrone Moore says Andrew Marsh is a starter at WR opposite Donoven McCulley going forward and has earned that right. No more Semaj Morgan or Channing Goodwin starting. Thank god. Moore said WR3 battle is still open and ongoing. Unfortunately Semaj is still their only little slot/gadget guy so he's still going to get real action.
Moore also says true freshman WR Jamar Browder is getting closer to seeing the field and showing him stuff in practice and picking up the playbook now and will be in the mix going forward. Browder is a big bodied 6'5, 215 jump ball merchant from South Florida.
Per PFF, Michigan WR's/TE's have 14 drops on the season on passes they chart as catchable. That's a drop rate of 15.4%- which is highest in the nation- with Semaj Morgan (5) and Channing Goodwin (4) as the main culprits.
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wonder if we see Browder get on the field first time all-season here...
https://twitter.com/BluePrintJay/status/1975556017305100719
https://twitter.com/BriceMarich/status/1975232623162388908
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One of my assumptions built over years of watching the Badgers is that a solid running game tends to limit the impact/mistakes that go along with travel. Maybe it is because there are fewer connections that have to be timed correctly, or the offensive line is playing on the front foot instead of the back, but whatever it is, a team that wants to grind the ball down your throat seems to be able to take that on the road more easily than a team that wants to spread the ball around. Maybe that's right, maybe I'm full of all kinds of confirmation bias, but I figure Michigan will run right at USC and dare the Trojans to stop them. And I don't think the men of Troy will do any better than they did against the ancient Greeks. Maybe they will make Michigan grind out a tough, low-scoring victory, but I think this is Michigan's game to lose.
The Illinois experience is a good barometer (though USC was traveling). Illinois gifted USC a 14-point (at least) swing with two goal line fumbles. The Illini offense thoroughly outplayed USC's defense. And while I don't know that it's true, I suspect that Michigan has a better offense and I'm confident it has a better defense. So: Michigan for the win. Probably not a barn burner. That's not how Michigan's offense--or defense--plays.
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The Illinois experience is a good barometer (though USC was traveling). Illinois gifted USC a 14-point (at least) swing with two goal line fumbles. The Illini offense thoroughly outplayed USC's defense. And while I don't know that it's true, I suspect that Michigan has a better offense and I'm confident it has a better defense. So: Michigan for the win. Probably not a barn burner. That's not how Michigan's offense--or defense--plays.
Michigan definitely has a better rushing offense than Illinois. Illinois is the 99th ranked total rush offense- and that's with playing 6 games vs Michigan's 5. Illinois rush YPC average is 3.7 yards- which is amongst the lowest in P4, meanwhile Michigan's nearly 3 full yards more at nearly 6.4 YPC- which is top 5 in the FBS. And this is with Michigan facing two top 5 rush defenses in the country in Wisconsin and Oklahoma- and not using their freak athlete QB in the designed run game at all. Illinois hasn't really faced a front 7 that is rated highly in stopping the run- and their rush stats are still pathetic.
Overall offense because of the passing game? Illinois might be a tad better considering their QB is a 38 year old man with a fucking mortgage whose been in college for 20 fucking years- and Michigan's QB is a true freshman who just turned 18 like a month ago.
SP+ has Illinois offense rated 18th in the nation and Michigan offense rated 31st. SP+ has Michigan as the 7th rated defense in the nation, and Illinois as the 51st rated defense.
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Michigan definitely has a better rushing offense than Illinois. Illinois is the 99th ranked total rush offense- and that's with playing 6 games vs Michigan's 5. Illinois rush YPC average is 3.7 yards- which is amongst the lowest in P4, meanwhile Michigan's nearly 3 full yards more at nearly 6.4 YPC- which is top 5 in the FBS. And this is with Michigan facing two top 5 rush defenses in the country in Wisconsin and Oklahoma- and not using their freak athlete QB in the designed run game at all. Illinois hasn't really faced a front 7 that is rated highly in stopping the run- and their rush stats are still pathetic.
Overall offense because of the passing game? Illinois might be a tad better considering their QB is a 38 year old man with a fucking mortgage whose been in college for 20 fucking years- and Michigan's QB is a true freshman who just turned like 18 a month ago.
SP+ has Illinois offense rated 18th in the nation and Michigan offense rated 31st. SP+ has Michigan as the 7th rated defense in the nation, and Illinois as the 51st rated defense.
I agree. Total offense includes both. Illinois appears to have a significantly better passing game. Michigan has a better running game. Somewhere in the wash, one total offense is better than the other.
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I agree. Total offense includes both. Illinois appears to have a significantly better passing game. Michigan has a better running game. Somewhere in the wash, one total offense is better than the other.
yeah definitely.
call me crazy but I just think if this Illinois team that can't really run the ball that well ran for about 175 on USC's defense- Michigan has a good shot at 250+ on the ground- especially if they actually use Underwood's legs in the game plan.
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We've done enough statistical analysis to say that HFA is definitely a real thing and travelling across multiple time zones makes it bigger.
I disagree with your unsupported assertion that it "only makes a real difference" based on time/travel distance. My argument, and the data bears it out, is that it makes the biggest difference in games like this that are relatively even matchups. I agree with @ELA (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=55) here in that I would take Michigan on a neutral field but USC is a legitimate challenge, close enough for HFA to push them over the top I think.
Completely agree with this.
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Sherrone Moore says Andrew Marsh is a starter at WR opposite Donoven McCulley going forward and has earned that right. No more Semaj Morgan or Channing Goodwin starting. Thank god. Moore said WR3 battle is still open and ongoing. Unfortunately Semaj is still their only little slot/gadget guy so he's still going to get real action.
Moore also says true freshman WR Jamar Browder is getting closer to seeing the field and showing him stuff in practice and picking up the playbook now and will be in the mix going forward. Browder is a big bodied 6'5, 215 jump ball merchant from South Florida.
Per PFF, Michigan WR's/TE's have 14 drops on the season on passes they chart as catchable. That's a drop rate of 15.4%- which is highest in the nation- with Semaj Morgan (5) and Channing Goodwin (4) as the main culprits.
Wow, are brain cells starting to function up in Ann Arbor? It shouldn't have taken 5 weeks to see things that were clear after week 2 and some of the adjustments should have already been made at halftime or the middle of a game. Semaj Morgan is way overrated. He also shouldn't be returning punts. He has terrible hands and is going to cost them a turnover at some point. He also runs terrible routes and was easier to see watching the game live, that often he stopped on a route that he should have kept going and Underwood had to go up to him after the play and tell/teach him what should have happened with his route.
MCCulley and Marsh is a definite upgrade. McCulley is a decently average route runner, but he can go up and win balls. So give him a shot to do that more often. Marsh looks great to me. Looks like a young kid that should have been on the field since day one. Those two with Klein and please rollout Underwood and add more play fakes than freaking bubble screens and it will help the running game, which let Haynes do his thing. Also, don't throw the ball to Bredeson. Dude is a beast and a bruiser, but don't throw him the ball.
We're going to learn a lot about the Michigan secondary this week. My biggest concern is the secondary and teams that exploit the middle of the field.
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Wow, are brain cells starting to function up in Ann Arbor? It shouldn't have taken 5 weeks to see things that were clear after week 2 and some of the adjustments should have already been made at halftime or the middle of a game. Semaj Morgan is way overrated. He also shouldn't be returning punts. He has terrible hands and is going to cost them a turnover at some point. He also runs terrible routes and was easier to see watching the game live, that often he stopped on a route that he should have kept going and Underwood had to go up to him after the play and tell/teach him what should have happened with his route.
MCCulley and Marsh is a definite upgrade. McCulley is a decently average route runner, but he can go up and win balls. So give him a shot to do that more often. Marsh looks great to me. Looks like a young kid that should have been on the field since day one. Those two with Klein and please rollout Underwood and add more play fakes than freaking bubble screens and it will help the running game, which let Haynes do his thing. Also, don't throw the ball to Bredeson. Dude is a beast and a bruiser, but don't throw him the ball.
We're going to learn a lot about the Michigan secondary this week. My biggest concern is the secondary and teams that exploit the middle of the field.
100%. it's yet another indictment on Moore as a coach that it took him this long to do something about the WR problem. I know everyone here hates former OSU coach Zach Smith- but he had a great All-22 film breakdown of Semaj Morgan- and needless to say Semaj Morgan is AWFUL. He is an awful route runner and can't catch a cold.
McCulley and Underwood have been oh so close so many times all year- they have NOT been on the same page at all. Looks like they are starting to click- we'll see if they can continue to build on that chemistry. McCulley is sneaky underrated- good enough route runner and while not a burner faster than you think and he is a TERRIFIC 50-50 jump ball guy- his hands/ball skills are impressive- and of course it helps he's 6'5" with a nice vertical.
Marsh looks like a future stud to me as well. Can definitely see why he was so highly rated as a recruit- if you're a composite high 4* top 100 overall player in the nation like he was- you're a bluechip recruit. And he looks the part. It was just a matter of him picking up the playbook and getting his shot.
I'm 100% out on Semaj Morgan- he sucks. Still think there is some hope for Channing Goodwin- he's only a RS Frosh and he looks really good after the catch and he might be the most technical route runner they have and he blocks his ass off- but he HAS to start catching the football when it hits him in both hands. He's young and inexperienced though- so he has a tiny bit of an excuse. Semaj Morgan however is a SR I think and he's played plenty of snaps over the last 3 years- there is zero excuse for him to be this terrible.
I hear what you're saying about Bredeson- but he's technically a TE/H-Back/FB hybrid- and they line him up as a TE in 12 personnel a lot- he's too valuable as a run blocker to take off the field- and while you shouldn't be throwing him the ball- Bryce scanned the field and went through his progressions to his 4th read- which was Bredeson- and he's got to catch that ball if it hits him in both hands. Easier said than done- oh don't throw it to him- especially with Hogan Hansen being out and not having another legit TE you trust to run 12 personnel. If Hogan Hansen was healthy- he's the 4th read there and he probably catches the ball.
I'd change your line about the secondary and say we're going to learn a lot about Wink Martindale this game. Every time he tries his zone pressures he gets gashed to where the blitz was coming from. USC's OL is pretty iffy and it's missing I think 2 or 3 starters this game. There is no need to blitz so heavily here. Trust your front 4 to rush the passer and play zone coverage. If he does that- Michigan will be OK. If he doesn't- they will get gashed in the pass game.
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https://twitter.com/BriceMarich/status/1975228880836600179
https://twitter.com/wolverineswire/status/1975259846682239126
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PFF caveats apply, but yeah these EDGE rushers are REALLY good Wink. Stop blitzing so much, please.
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I'd change your line about the secondary and say we're going to learn a lot about Wink Martindale this game. Every time he tries his zone pressures he gets gashed to where the blitz was coming from. USC's OL is pretty iffy and it's missing I think 2 or 3 starters this game. There is no need to blitz so heavily here. Trust your front 4 to rush the passer and play zone coverage. If he does that- Michigan will be OK. If he doesn't- they will get gashed in the pass game.
Ya know.. reading this made me think my initial perspective was wrong and this is probably closer to being accurate.
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Ya know.. reading this made me think my initial perspective was wrong and this is probably closer to being accurate.
yup. Wink has sent pressures through 5 games more than any other DC in the P4. the guy is fucking addicted to sending pressure- and he's got three plus experienced EDGE rushers in Barham, Derrick Moore, and TJ Guy and he's got a defensive tackle that can rush the passer too in Rayshaun Benny.
there is just zero need for him to be blitz heavy this game. if he can't keep his dick in his pants here- Michigan probably loses the game.
Jayden Maiva against the blitz?
89.8 passing grade, 12 YPA, 87.5 Adjusted completion %, and only 1 sack taken. He's been sacked 3 times when not being blitzed. He's more susceptible to being sacked right now when he's not blitzed.
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USC is the second-worst pass defense that Michigan has seen at 111th in the country, ahead of only New Mexico at 126th.
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PFF caveats apply, but yeah these EDGE rushers are REALLY good Wink. Stop blitzing so much, please.
again that passes for Pffft,clickbait nowadays
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USC is the second-worst pass defense that Michigan has seen at 111th in the country, ahead of only New Mexico at 126th.
and their run defense ain't that good either. they do weirdly have a lot of sacks- but they haven't really played anyone with a competent OL.
seems like a typical Lincoln Riley defense. their best defense is that high flying explosive offense.
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Maybe the edge rushers grade well because winkie is sending extra guys all the time??
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yeah definitely.
call me crazy but I just think if this Illinois team that can't really run the ball that well ran for about 175 on USC's defense- Michigan has a good shot at 250+ on the ground- especially if they actually use Underwood's legs in the game plan.
Why the F would Moore get smart and use Underwood's legs?
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Why the F would Moore get smart and use Underwood's legs?
good point....
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Sherrone Moore is a doofus. but he's not wrong about it....
https://twitter.com/CSayf23/status/1975727476975296585
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Riley isn't wrong either
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USC had three sell outs last season, all against big brands in Nebraska, Penn State and ND.
The Wisconsin game was sold out too.
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big brand
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Lots of UW alum out there.
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so USC basically needs visiting helmets/big brands to sell out their stadium. yikes. at least they get some fans in the stadium, unlike UCLA.
in this game their stadium will probably be like 50% or more Michigan fans.
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Why the F would Moore get smart and use Underwood's legs?
Frightened of the possiblities in the event of injury,does M have a bull pen they can go to. Sherrone may not be the sharpest but pretty sure that's crossed his mind
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Frightened of the possiblities in the event of injury,does M have a bull pen they can go to. Sherrone may not be the sharpest but pretty sure that's crossed his mind
hey I hear Davis Warren is running/throwing and practicing again....
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so USC basically needs visiting helmets/big brands to sell out their stadium. yikes. at least they get some fans in the stadium, unlike UCLA.
True but the players got to meet everyone of them last week end
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so maybe he doesn't totally suck....but the kid gets his hands on a million footballs and NEVER actually makes the fucking interception- always drops it- and he LOVES to bite on double moves and commit pass interference. if only he caught the football and made the interception, didn't bite on every double move, and didn't commit pass interference....he'd be an elite corner!
https://twitter.com/CamMellor/status/1976007186749722626
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this is a pretty big indictment/red flag on Michigan's actual WR coach Ron Bellamy imo. yeah, I get it he played at Michigan and was the lead recruiter on some big 5* recruits that helped turn the program around like JJ and Donovan Edwards- but the dude has to go. his primary job is to coach and develop WR's- and he absolutely sucks at that job.
https://twitter.com/BriceMarich/status/1975703694457929923
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likely a kiss of death....Joel Klatt sucks...
https://twitter.com/wolverineswire/status/1976282958500667393
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Mr. Steal Your Signs himself with a breakdown of the game....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYe22R7YoNs
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Michigan’s OL and DL were beat. They put QB #2 Davis in at the end. He was impressive in that he was on the field less than a minute, I would guess, and managed to fumble and throw an interception in that time.
Every game is a scrimmage now to get ready for the Saturday after Thanksgiving.
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absolutely pathetic performance all around. Sherrie Moore needs to be fired. Today.
Buyout is only $13 mil. Portnoy get Ellison on the phone and make it happen.
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Had to record the game and watch it this morning. Michigan is a terribly coached team. Both offensively and defensively.
Their formations defensively in the first half when USC was throwing in the middle and quick, short passes, they have dbs 10-15 yards off the line. Why? Beyond stupid. USC ran the same running play 3 straight times for massive game changing gains and scores.
Offensively I’m disgusted. People can knock on underwood and in some instances rightfully so because he missed some passes, but how is any qb going to have success when on first down they run every single damn time. Then they have plays where Semaj Morgan motions around in the back field two different directions and they run up the middle. Do they seriously think that’s misdirection? It looks like a circus. Let’s run around a guy in the backfield for no impact so it’s 10 v 11.
Michigan is not a good football team. Not well coached and their secondary is awful along with their linebackers ability to tackle. Maybe Davis Warren didn’t suck, maybe the play calling was so bad he didn’t even have a chance. I have an idea, maybe roll out Underwood. The kid isn’t a pocket old school qb, so why force him to be one? The sad part is there’s talent on this team, but completely misused and some of the players on the field shouldn’t be. Start with Morgan. Perfect example of how terrible the coaching staff is.. Semaj has the most drops as a receiver and you have him as your punt returner. Brains don’t work in Ann Arbor.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6puFh4W1jY
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Had to record the game and watch it this morning. Michigan is a terribly coached team. Both offensively and defensively.
Their formations defensively in the first half when USC was throwing in the middle and quick, short passes, they have dbs 10-15 yards off the line. Why? Beyond stupid. USC ran the same running play 3 straight times for massive game changing gains and scores.
Offensively I’m disgusted. People can knock on underwood and in some instances rightfully so because he missed some passes, but how is any qb going to have success when on first down they run every single damn time. Then they have plays where Semaj Morgan motions around in the back field two different directions and they run up the middle. Do they seriously think that’s misdirection? It looks like a circus. Let’s run around a guy in the backfield for no impact so it’s 10 v 11.
Michigan is not a good football team. Not well coached and their secondary is awful along with their linebackers ability to tackle. Maybe Davis Warren didn’t suck, maybe the play calling was so bad he didn’t even have a chance. I have an idea, maybe roll out Underwood. The kid isn’t a pocket old school qb, so why force him to be one? The sad part is there’s talent on this team, but completely misused and some of the players on the field shouldn’t be. Start with Morgan. Perfect example of how terrible the coaching staff is.. Semaj has the most drops as a receiver and you have him as your punt returner. Brains don’t work in Ann Arbor.
Michigan has great talent. The coaching is terrible - like uke ickell terrible. Talent can only overcome so much.
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absolutely pathetic performance all around. Sherrie Moore needs to be fired. Today.
Buyout is only $13 mil. Portnoy get Ellison on the phone and make it happen.
Well Ellison is paying what 4-5 ex wives and I'm sure he's a rung or two up the social ladder than the wet mop Portnoy,doubt that he's on speed dial
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Had to record the game and watch it this morning.
Offensively I’m disgusted. People can knock on underwood and in some instances rightfully so because he missed some passes, but how is any qb going to have success when on first down they run every single damn time. Then they have plays where Semaj Morgan motions around in the back field two different directions and they run up the middle. Do they seriously think that’s misdirection? It looks like a circus. Let’s run around a guy in the backfield for no impact so it’s 10 v 11.
Couldn't get the game on NBC with my OTA antenna - that worked fine all week and wouldn't come in so i listened to it on radio like 94 out of Detroit. And that Andrew Marsh sounded like he had a game, the announcers seemed happy with him
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Michigan has great talent. The coaching is terrible - like uke ickell terrible. Talent can only overcome so much.
terribly coached team. Moore is in way over his head. Guy has never been nothing more than an OL coach and was a glorified Co-OC who didn't call the pass plays and everyone knows Jeem really ran that offense. Michigan isn't the kind of job where you just learn on the fly. Buddy is giving me major Gary Moeller/Brady Hoke vibes. What makes it worse is this dipshit loves to run his mouth before games- see his comments before Oklahoma and USC- and then takes his teams on the road and has them completely unprepared.
the fact that you got physically man-handled by a Lincoln Riley coached USC team and let them run for 230 yards down your throat with all backup RB's should speak volumes about how shitty of a coach you are.
#FireSharonMoore.
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Well Ellison is paying what 4-5 ex wives and I'm sure he's a rung or two up the social ladder than the wet mop Portnoy,doubt that he's on speed dial
brother the man has a $393 billion dollar net worth. that's billion with a b. pretty sure he could write a check to buy Moore out and not feel it.
Ellison and his new wife contacted Portnoy and that's how they got Underwood. Ellison was the money guy behind that NIL deal.
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Couldn't get the game on NBC with my OTA antenna - that worked fine all week and wouldn't come in so i listened to it on radio like 94 out of Detroit. And that Andrew Marsh sounded like he had a game, the announcers seemed happy with him
What’s weird as everyone claiming Michigan has not talent at receiver. McCulley has talent when he is used correctly. Marsh clearly is talented. Morgan shouldn’t be on the field yet they try to make him a focal point. Suddenly they don’t know how to use a tight end in the offense. Again, coaching is the problem.
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Had to record the game and watch it this morning. Michigan is a terribly coached team. Both offensively and defensively.
Their formations defensively in the first half when USC was throwing in the middle and quick, short passes, they have dbs 10-15 yards off the line. Why? Beyond stupid. USC ran the same running play 3 straight times for massive game changing gains and scores.
Offensively I’m disgusted. People can knock on underwood and in some instances rightfully so because he missed some passes, but how is any qb going to have success when on first down they run every single damn time. Then they have plays where Semaj Morgan motions around in the back field two different directions and they run up the middle. Do they seriously think that’s misdirection? It looks like a circus. Let’s run around a guy in the backfield for no impact so it’s 10 v 11.
Michigan is not a good football team. Not well coached and their secondary is awful along with their linebackers ability to tackle. Maybe Davis Warren didn’t suck, maybe the play calling was so bad he didn’t even have a chance. I have an idea, maybe roll out Underwood. The kid isn’t a pocket old school qb, so why force him to be one? The sad part is there’s talent on this team, but completely misused and some of the players on the field shouldn’t be. Start with Morgan. Perfect example of how terrible the coaching staff is.. Semaj has the most drops as a receiver and you have him as your punt returner. Brains don’t work in Ann Arbor.
he's got to go. Wink Martindale was a terrible hire as well for DC. Yeah let's hire a washed up NFL DC who got fired in disgrace at his last two NFL jobs because he couldn't keep his dick in his pants and had the highest blitz rate of any DC in the NFL and his defenses gave up more big plays than just about any in the league.
Said it before and I'll say it again....the wrong Co-Ordinator got the job at Michigan. Jesse Minter should've been the guy. Jeem knew what he was doing taking Jesse Minter with him to the NFL and leaving Sharon behind.
Look at Michigan's last two DC's before Wink. Mike McDonald is an NFL head coach and Jesse Minter has been arguably the best DC in the NFL the last season and a half and is going to be an NFL head coach in 2026.
Warde Manuel fucked up. Should've threw a whole bag at Jesse Minter and offered him the HC job.
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What’s weird as everyone claiming Michigan has not talent at receiver. McCulley has talent when he is used correctly. Marsh clearly is talented. Morgan shouldn’t be on the field yet they try to make him a focal point. Suddenly they don’t know how to use a tight end in the offense. Again, coaching is the problem.
100%.
McCulley can play. He's a legit B1G starting caliber WR- certainly as good or better than Cornelius Johnson or Roman Wilson imo- who Michigan won a title with. I'd argue he's better than Johnson and just a notch below Wilson.
Andrew Marsh is a burgeoning star. He was a super highly rated recruit for a reason and you're already seeing why. He flashes his talent and in 2 starts so far he's looked the part.
Yet this dumbass coaching staff spent the first 4 games of the season trying to feature Semaj Morgan in the slot instead of force feeding McCulley targets downfield- and make Semaj a focal point of the offense and oh yeah they were playing Channing Goodwin over Andrew Marsh. Lol.
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pathetic is not the right word....
https://twitter.com/CSayf23/status/1977234683651142027
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go get Curt....make it happen Warde.
https://twitter.com/MichiganFB23/status/1977202790243107162
https://twitter.com/Underwood_szn/status/1977219466413945181
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he's got to go. Wink Martindale was a terrible hire as well for DC. Yeah let's hire a washed up NFL DC who got fired in disgrace at his last two NFL jobs because he couldn't keep his dick in his pants and had the highest blitz rate of any DC in the NFL and his defenses gave up more big plays than just about any in the league.
Said it before and I'll say it again....the wrong Co-Ordinator got the job at Michigan. Jesse Minter should've been the guy. Jeem knew what he was doing taking Jesse Minter with him to the NFL and leaving Sharon behind.
Look at Michigan's last two DC's before Wink. Mike McDonald is an NFL head coach and Jesse Minter has been arguably the best DC in the NFL the last season and a half and is going to be an NFL head coach in 2026.
Warde Manuel fucked up. Should've threw a whole bag at Jesse Minter and offered him the HC job.
While I completely agree with all of this, Minter is a smart dude and he attached himself to a winner. Let’s be real, Manual is not a winner. If I was in Minter’s shoes, it wouldn’t have mattered what was thrown at me, I would have stuck with Harbaugh. Media and haters planted a certain picture about Harbaugh, but if you had a pulse and paid attention to reality, you can see he’s an elite coach. He may be a very odd dude, but he certainly understands discipline and football.
Moore is just not a leader. At least not of an entire program, not at this stage in his career. Whomever is making decisions about talent, gameplan, which I would assume is Moore, needs to go. When couch coaches see things better than the staff and they’re proven right over and over, it’s a problem. The offensive play calling is the true definition of insanity.
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Ok one more and I’m done being angry and going to go enjoy a family Sunday. Down 17. Score a touchdown and… go for 2? I’m sending my 9 year old up to that coaching room to teach them basic math because that math ain’t mathing.
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put a bullet in Wink or on a rocket ship and fire him to Mars....Jesus.
https://twitter.com/BrandonJustice_/status/1977203060603810175
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another example of coaching malpractice and Sharon not knowing talent....anybody with a set of eye balls can see Cole Sullivan is 10x the player Jimmy Rolder is. Rolder is a SR, Cole Sullivan is a RS Fr and he's already a significantly better LB'er. No different than continually trotting out Semaj as a starting WR when he's got a true frosh named Andrew Marsh who is 100x the WR as Semaj.
https://twitter.com/Tj_Ronin/status/1977507569724973539
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https://twitter.com/Underwood_szn/status/1977476324467077545
https://twitter.com/BSB_Wolverine/status/1977495374001483952
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MDOT, all of what you’ve said and posted is spot on. Check my pulse that is reality, but it is. Moore should call Franklin and thank him.
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Ok one more and I’m done being angry and going to go enjoy a family Sunday. Down 17. Score a touchdown and… go for 2? I’m sending my 9 year old up to that coaching room to teach them basic math because that math ain’t mathing.
This was baffling to me as well. Michigan was down by 11 after the TD so:
- An almost automatic XP makes it 10 which is a FG, a TD, and an XP to tie.
- A 2pt conversion makes it 9 which is STILL two scores only if you fail you need to make the next one to tie.
Why?
There was a point late in Cooper'stenure when he made a similar error of basic math on that decision. It annoyed me then as I'm sure it does you now.
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MDOT, all of what you’ve said and posted is spot on. Check my pulse that is reality, but it is. Moore should call Franklin and thank him.
yup, these coaches stink. starts with Sharon.
https://twitter.com/Tj_Ronin/status/1977523440870363560
https://twitter.com/JDue51/status/1977316960825204853
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This was a road game for Michigan against a distant quality opponent. It came out as expected. There is way too much drama on this thread. Michigan simply is not a great team this year. But, it is also not a bad team.
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https://twitter.com/Castellani2014/status/1977206456811499936/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1977206456811499936¤tTweetUser=Castellani2014
This guy came on my radar during the Tigers collapse, which he was likable as a Guardians fan and his takes were good and his one meltdown was funny. He’s a pretty spot on, seemingly just average guy which is probably why he’s likable.
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He'd be talking in tongues as a Browns Fan
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https://twitter.com/Underwood_szn/status/1977476324467077545
MSU scored 31 on them in a game that started at 11 PM ET. Thought MSU might actually have a pulse back then
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This was a road game for Michigan against a distant quality opponent. It came out as expected. There is way too much drama on this thread. Michigan simply is not a great team this year. But, it is also not a bad team.
nah. USC was favored by 2.5, which means Vegas expected the outcome to be by a FG. USC won by 18 points. Michigan only scored 13 points- against a Lincoln Riley defense that gave up 34 to Illinois and 31 to Michigan State. The most concerning thing about the game was Wink Martindale's front 7 got out-muscled and out-physicaled at the line of scrimmage....by a Lincoln Riley coached team.
Sharon is 1-5 on the road as the head coach, his one road win was by 3 points and his 5 losses on the road are by an average of 11.6 points- basically 12 points per game- basically losing by 2 TD's per game whenever he goes on the road. this is absolutely pathetic and should be alarming to everyone. tells me he has no clue how to get his team prepared and ready for road trips.
Time to sound the fire alarm. Sharon Moore has to go.
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Sharon is 1-5 on the road as the head coach, his one road win was by 3 points and his 5 losses on the road are by an average of 11.6 points- basically 12 points per game- basically losing by 2 TD's per game whenever he goes on the road. this is absolutely pathetic and should be alarming to everyone. tells me he has no clue how to get his team prepared and ready for road trips.
Time to sound the fire alarm. Sharon Moore has to go.
C'mon at least wait'll he gets his guys
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I said at the time, Michigan had just hired their Bobby Williams. Promoted the really popular assistant to follow the great head coach for the short term goal of holding together the roster, but the dude was in way over his head
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I think Sherrone's more than holding his own and should rightfully be given and an extension and some respekt
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I said at the time, Michigan had just hired their Bobby Williams. Promoted the really popular assistant to follow the great head coach for the short term goal of holding together the roster, but the dude was in way over his head
and you are 100% correct. that's a great comparison. Harbaugh left so late that they didn't have time to do a real search if they wanted to keep their incoming recruiting class together and their roster intact. if they didn't hire him they would've ran the risk of having a lot of high quality guys like Mason Graham, Colston Loveland, Will Johnson, and Kenneth Grant hitting the portal and of their incoming 2024 class falling apart at the seams.
people gave him a pass last year because he didn't have a QB- but he's showing this year he's not ready either- and Michigan isn't the type of job where you can just learn on the fly. And Bryce Underwood is too talented of a QB to waste with a coach who has no idea what he's doing.
buyout is cheap, get rid of him at seasons end and go get a real coach.
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I'm fine with coach Moore, much less so with DC Wink Martindale. This was never going to be the year so it's way early for cliff diving.
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Tim Brando had been talking mad smack about Michigan program and the culture of the program having problems under Sherrone Moore all off-season citing sources close to the program.
he does play by play for CFB games with Devin Gardner for Fox Sports. Everyone assumed it was Gardner talking to Brando, well this quote from Devin Gardner in a podcast he does with Jake Butt pretty much confirms it.
"Sherrone's kind of arrogance and at some points, kind of front runner attitude... is bleeding onto his players and his freshman quarterback."
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I'm fine with coach Moore, much less so with DC Wink Martindale. This was never going to be the year so it's way early for cliff diving.
put the Kool-Aid down. Sharon Moore is awful. And who do you think hired Wink? Lol.
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https://twitter.com/StephenToski/status/1978496384119570807
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put the Kool-Aid down. Sharon Moore is awful. And who do you think hired Wink? Lol.
I'm trying not to be here, but I'm here. I think making it too simplistic saying he needs time to get his players in the system is ignoring the underlying and glaring red flags.. Going for 2 when you score and were down 17? Absolutely no adjustments in game planning at halftime? Clearly not utilizing players the right way? Bryce Underwood is the easy example that everyone is stuck on, but Semaj Morgan continuing to be a focal point as a receiver and punt returner when he drops more balls than Time Square. The insistence on running up the middle on first and second down over and over and over. The fact that the team looked better during his suspended games. Easy argument that of course the team looked better against Central Michigan, but they sure as heck looked better against a solid Nebraska team without Moore.
This isn't a wait for him to build his system and fill his guys type of situation. It's a this guy is doing some very basic things wrong and not seeing glaring adjustments that should be made. It's not good. The other flag is players in the trenches seemed to have taken a step back on both sides of the ball.. Of course the D-line I'm not surprised because of the loss of talent to the NFL draft, but what's the excuse for the o-line? Only one i can deem reasonable is the offensive, obvious play calling that defenses can easily see what's coming.
There's a reality Michigan fans should come to. The staff is a problem and it's not too soon to have an uneasy feeling. And as much as most don't want to admit or acknowledge it, they should sit back and know the outcome of this season won't be pretty and they should be ready to watch OSU defend their title as repeat champs. That team is crazy talented on both sides of the ball. Their defense is special and reminds me of watching the 2023 Michigan team where the stars just know how to step up in key situations to make huge plays. Their receivers, even though every year the last 6-7 I've had arguments with my buddies there's no way the OSU group this year could get better than years past, which how is that possible when you're replacing Wilson, Egbuka, Marvin and on and on, but holy lord Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate is an insane duo. It's a year to swallow pride, get ready for defeat and watch in awe of a team that's seriously crazy talented that repeat.
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No Way tOSU repeats or beats M* at home.OK I'm Good
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No Way tOSU repeats or beats M* at home.OK I'm Good
Lol. For the record, my statement was a jinx reverse jinx thing. It’s like watching Saban Bama team back in their prime. Sometimes you have to just acknowledge elite talent and loaded teams.
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Jake Butt questions the coaching staff/culture....
https://twitter.com/Chris_Wormley43/status/1978526947001946393
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Chris Wormley
@Chris_Wormley43
Michigan is at a crossroad right now! What do you think they need to do to right the ship?
AH! In the comment section:
"Rehire Connor Stallions"
"Have the NCAA suspend Moore for the rest of season and roll with Biff...."
"Ask Larry Ellison hey, you wanna show up Phil Knight?"
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only the Stallions rehire is a sure fire solution
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only the Stallions rehire is a sure fire solution
suspend Moore for eternity, Biff Pudgy to interim HC + rehire Connor Stallions....now we're cooking with grease.
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I started this thought last night and never finished writing it out. Stallions when all the smoke clears and extended time away from the entire event, will find his way back into helping a team win. If you listen to our read his analysis of defenses, the guys is SHARP. His image was narrowed down to a guy who wrongly took video, stood on the sidelines of CMU and stole the golden tickets from the opposition. In reality, the brilliance behind him was analyzing every tiny thing about the opposition and game planning against it, probably at a crazy obsessed level, but still highly intelligent.
Personally, i had a picture of who he was painted in my mind. Then I watched the story on netflix and still had a certain picture painted.. When you actually pay attention to him now, he knows and understands and can dissect the game. Not a popular opinion, but he's a passionate guy that understands the game very well and will be an asset to someone on the future.. He might have to get hired as Stonner Callions, but he's good dissecting play calling without needing a single sign.
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he might be pretty good, but he's WAY better with signs
or he wouldn't have been stealing them
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or fired,lost his first high school game 60-zip,ya Knute Rockne