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The Power Four => Big Ten => Topic started by: Mdot21 on September 29, 2025, 12:50:37 PM
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kickoff is at noon on Fox. Michigan opens as 16.5 point home favorites, O/U is 41.5. Michigan and Wisconsin both coming off bye weeks.
not sure Michigan has the WR's to really hurt the Wisconsin weakness on defense- the secondary. Wisconsin meanwhile seems to have a pretty solid run defense. Bryce Underwood is still a baby growing up by the day. Game could be closer than anyone thinks- especially if Michigan is looking ahead to next weeks road trip to USC- which will be a huge game for both of those teams seasons.
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This game doesn't deserve a thread.
And I can only wish the Badgers were 4-0... (2-2, 0-1)
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Wisconsin's run defense may slow Michigan's running game down...a little. But the Badgers pass defense will get picked apart, again. Michigan will likely have 3-5 sustained drives for points. Somewhere in the 27-31-point range. But that's just when Michigan has to go the length of the field.
The Michigan defensive front will overwhelm the Badgers O-line from the jump. While the Badgers may come up with a big play here or there, to get 20-35 yards in one chunk, most of Wisconsin's offensive plays will play out in the Wisconsin backfield. I expect at least two turnovers--INTs or fumbles--forced by Michigan's front 7, and I won't be surprised if it's 3+. And Michigan will have plenty of opportunities playing with the ball on a short field. If the Badgers get 150 total yards in offense (before the game is decided), I will be surprised. Both of the Badgers touchdown drives against P4-conference competition came in garbage time. I expect the same here. Michigan will likely finish in the 30s to low 40s; the Badgers will score less than 14, and some of that will likely come in garbage time.
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I honestly think the strength of Badger defense aligns perfectly against this M team. That being said, I think the Michigan defense is going to completely overwhelm the Badger offense on a way to victory, but I can see the Badger defense putting up a good fight, slowing down the run game and showing that Michigan's passing game is still lacking a lot. I agree with MDot as I think this will be a closer game than many expect unless the M defense has a few big turnovers.
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If you like watching teams get their teeth kicked in, watch Wisconsin for the next month.
(https://i.imgur.com/F36kKDg.png)
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Kirk isn't gonna try to score too many points
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If you like watching teams get their teeth kicked in, watch Wisconsin for the next month.
[img width=500 height=150.992]https://i.imgur.com/F36kKDg.png[/img]
ouch.. Now that's a tough schedule. At least it's not at Iowa. The only thing worse might have been October 11th taking them to Happy Valley.
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Danny O'Neil probably still the starter at QB. Edwards is still dinged up, and Fickell says he probably shouldn't have let him play against Maryland. But Edwards is listed at #1 on the depth chart.
Renfro isn't listed as the center on the depth chart, but he may get some time.
And yes, the Wisconsin front line is pretty solid against the run, but they haven't been very good in the passing game. While I'm sure Michigan would prefer to run the ball, they will take what the Badgers will give through the air, and so far that's been a lot. If Maryland's freshman qb can shred the Badgers, what will Michigan's wunderkind freshman qb do?
And to those--SM, I'm looking at you--thinking the Badger d will hold up better than I predicted, this is a serious question: have you actually seen the Badgers play this year, or just the highlights or for a few minutes while flipping between channels? I ask because my impression from watching full games is that this team is really not good.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dluRCw48adk
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ouch.. Now that's a tough schedule. At least it's not at Iowa. The only thing worse might have been October 11th taking them to Happy Valley.
MSU last year went...
@BC, OSU, @Oregon (on short rest after an Oregon bye), Iowa, @UM, Indiana, @Illinois.
Granted nobody knew that BC, Indiana and Illinois would be 9+ win teams. But a 7 game stretch where the easiest game is Iowa, and the 2nd easiest is either at BC or at Michigan, makes reaching a bowl game damn near impossible
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Idk I tend to think the game might be closer than the 16.5 point spread. Michigan might be the team in the B1G with highest variability in terms of season outcome- and that offense while a massive improvement over last years- is still a work in progress and the passing game still leaves a lot to be desired. Still iffy about the offense- but feel great about where the defense is heading.
On defense the secondary has been the weak link unit- it has been pretty banged up and playing 4 freshman (3 true, 1 RS) in major minutes at CB. True frosh CB Jayden Sanders has been starting at outside CB and has looked the best of that young lot and could actually win a permanent starting role if he keeps progressing at the rate he's been playing however. Starting CB Zeke Berry should be returning this week from injury so that helps- but Sanders has been playing so well Berry could wind up shifting down to nickel where he's probably a more natural fit. Rod Moore came back at free safety last week vs Nebraska and was on a pitch count only playing 21 snaps. He'll be getting more this week vs Wisconsin and the sooner he's back in the starting lineup the better as he'll make the secondary take a nice little leap forward. Having said all that, RS Soph. CB Jyaire Hill has to pick up his play for the defense to really take off. He's been a major disappointment through 4 games this season and he has to clean up his play for the defense to really take off.
Front 7 meanwhile looks gnarly with both Derrick Moore and TJ Guy rounding back into form coming back from injuries and getting healthier at EDGE and with the move of Jaishawn Barham to EDGE and RS Frosh LB'er Cole Sullivan into a starting inside LB'er role. That move of Barham to EDGE and Sullivan to starting ILB changes the entire dynamic of the defense. Both those guys are big-time talents.
That defense has yet to hit it's stride yet- and when it does it'll be gnarly.
Offense still has lot of room for improvement as Bryce Underwood gets more experience and grows every game. OL is also getting healthier with starting LG Gio El-Hadi getting closer to a return and RG Brady Norton almost back from injury. OL has looked like it's clicking and starting to gel, especially with Sherrone Moore spending basically all of his time the last 2 weeks with the OL unit trying to whip them into shape. WR's/passing game still a work in progress. Semaj Morgan and Channing Goodwin have been major disappointments. They have to produce this week vs Wisconsin or it's probably time they hit the bench and the coaches let other young players on the roster get a shot.
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Michigan 35, Wisconsin 9
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I honestly think the strength of Badger defense aligns perfectly against this M team. That being said, I think the Michigan defense is going to completely overwhelm the Badger offense on a way to victory, but I can see the Badger defense putting up a good fight, slowing down the run game and showing that Michigan's passing game is still lacking a lot. I agree with MDot as I think this will be a closer game than many expect unless the M defense has a few big turnovers.
michigan 24
Wisconsin 10
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Cowherd and Finebaum will be doing play by play, and color commentary.
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hopefully, I'll be on the golf course
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35-6
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Some Wisconsin writers are Wisconsin fans...
(https://i.imgur.com/zMfF3XI.png)
My take?
Sure, the experience at Bama will help them cope with what's gonna happen to them this weekend.
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Some Wisconsin writers are Wisconsin fans...
(https://i.imgur.com/zMfF3XI.png)
My take?
Sure, the experience at Bama will help them cope with what's gonna happen to them this weekend.
😂😂
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Some Wisconsin writers are Wisconsin fans...
(https://i.imgur.com/zMfF3XI.png)
My take?
Sure, the experience at Bama will help them cope with what's gonna happen to them this weekend.
Michigan would like to be as good as Bama, they're not
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Yeah, Michigan and Iowa can be had.
Wisconsin fans, crying in their beer... :beta:
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well if you're going to cry in your beer its not a bad place to find some 🍺
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sorry, haven't tried the Staghorn yet
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Michigan's wide receiver yardage per game is up from 58.2 YPG in 2024 to 128.0 YPG in 2025. Yards per target is up from 5.96 to 8.13, yards after the catch average is up from 3.83 to 7.18, and first downs per target is up from to 32.2 percent to 40.3 percent. This speaks to having a real QB and OC this year more-so than any major improvement in the WR corps imo.
What is also up? Drops. Per PFF, Michigan's WR's already have more drops through 4 games (9) than they did all of last season, and the WR drop rate of 22.4 percent is more than double the average rate at the P4 level. Nearly a quarter of Bryce Underwood's catchable passes have been dropped by his dogshit WR's.
Of 263 FBS receivers with at least 15 targets this season, Semaj Morgan and Channing Goodwin respectively rank 256th and 262nd in drop rate. Goodwin is a rs frosh and he blocks his ass off- so he gets a tiny bit of a break but he still has to do the #1 job of a WR- catch the fucking ball. However there is zero excuse for the shitty slow midget Semaj Morgan to still get trotted out there as a starting WR- guy is a junior who can't catch a fucking cold and is slow as shit despite being a 5'7, 150 pound midget and can't block either.
About seen enough of these two. Would like to see more of the true freshman Andrew Marsh, Jamar Browder, and Jacob Washington this week. Would like to see rs frosh I'Marion Stewart as well if he's finally healthy. Maybe even give Fred Moore another shot. Seen enough of the two aforementioned bums. Hopefully vs Wisconsin this Saturday we see some WR's other than Semaj Morgan and Channing Goodwin.
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Wisconsin's secondary sucks.
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bad on bad
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Wisconsin's secondary sucks.
well Michigan's WRs suck too. Hopefully this is the week they try some younger guys. if I'Marion Stewart is back healthy time to kick Semaj Morgan off the field and try Stewart out in the slot role.
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Michigan would like to be as good as Bama, they're not
Michigan is better on defense than Bama (Michigan defense is 8th in SP+, Bama is 12th) and are only getting healthier on that side of the ball with a trajectory that is trending up as secondary vets FS Rod Moore and CB Zeke Berry come back to the starting lineup.
Michigan obviously is not as good as Bama on offense. They are still a major work in progress in the passing game with a true frosh QB and WR's that suck, but run game/OL starting to really click.
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I'm ready for a full-blown youth movement, but the staff won't do that.
They tried to rush the QB back for Maryland, and he got hurt again - and more. Now he's out for this one and who knows how much longer.
The backup has been bad and now he's gun shy.
When they go 0-October, maybe the youth movement will start.
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I'm ready for a full-blown youth movement, but the staff won't do that.
They tried to rush the QB back for Maryland, and he got hurt again - and more. Now he's out for this one and who knows how much longer.
The backup has been bad and now he's gun shy.
When they go 0-October, maybe the youth movement will start.
is the back-up QB mobile at all and how is the Wisconsin OL vs the pass rush? Michigan has some hellacious pass rushers in Jaishawn Barham and Derrick Moore.
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Wisconsin cannot protect their quarterback...at all. Seriously, I'm not sure I've seen two plays where the QB has dropped back to pass and sat in a pocket with time to make more than two reads. It's brutal. O'Neil is reasonably mobile, but not enough that he can make up for not having any kind of help at left tackle, right tackle, or a center with whom he can't regularly make clean exchanges.
It's probably a pay-walled article, but all you need is the title from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:
Wisconsin football is allowing sacks at alarming pace in 2025. (https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/uw/2025/10/01/wisconsin-football-is-allowing-sacks-at-alarming-pace-so-far-in-2025/86399764007/)
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https://twitter.com/Rob__Paul/status/1969525350204944608
https://twitter.com/BengalsBrews/status/1952526513087074659
https://twitter.com/MichFootballBEL/status/1876371703909286228
https://twitter.com/uofmcoverage/status/1961969817952350448
https://twitter.com/bluebyninety/status/1969026743252943045
https://twitter.com/MichiganOnBTN/status/1969528414181679254
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is the back-up QB mobile at all and how is the Wisconsin OL vs the pass rush? Michigan has some hellacious pass rushers in Jaishawn Barham and Derrick Moore.
Wisconsin better travel with all 5 of their QB's because they're gonna need them.
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Offensively, if Wisconsin will have any hope, they will need to run a lot of misdirection, just to slow Michigan's front down. But so far that hasn't worked especially well. And, because they will need to sustain long, slow drives--because O'Neil (or whomever) won't have time for downfield passes--they need to cut out the stupid mistakes: failed snaps, O-line penalties, dropped passes, sacks that could have been avoided with throwing the ball away. All things they have not proven capable of.
It's that latter stuff that was so glaring in the Maryland game. Every time the Badgers started to do anything remotely good on offense, they would crap their pants with a snap over the head, or a false start, or a stupid sack, or a holding, or a dropped pass, or...or...or...(even a blocked field goal when they actually had a chance for points). It was brutal. And that was at home, in the first half, before the crowd turned on them. How do you think they will do in the Big House, with a much better defense lined up on the other side?
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I'm going boating if the weather allows.
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advanced stats predicting a 30-14 (rounding down) game with Michigan having a 76.5% win probability.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2GzLcQa8AAsY2S?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
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Wisconsin is averaging 12 points (most in garbage time) against P4 opponents.
They are not getting 14 points this weekend unless the D or ST score points (doubtful).
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https://twitter.com/MichiganOnBTN/status/1973413886352065017
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I have this as 41-10, Michigan. Five touchdowns, two field goals, and a partridge in a pear tree. Wisconsin scores its touchdown one of two ways: a turnover that results in a very short field, or garbage time.
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Will Wisconsin still have a playable QB when garbage time hits? Or are we thinking direct snaps to the RB's?
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I'm just keeping my (bad) options open.
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https://twitter.com/BriceMarich/status/1973423561550471236
DC Wink Martindale is excited for where the defense is heading out of the bye week. So am I Wink. So am I. True frosh CB Jayden Sanders showed a lot in his start vs Nebraska, have to be excited about his future. Veteran free safety Rod Moore got 21 snaps (out of 75 total) vs Nebraska and should get more snaps vs Wisconsin coming off the bye week. Starting CB Zeke Berry should be back this week as well.
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that's a big brace. is the back-up QB banged up as well?
https://twitter.com/Evan_Flood/status/1973142080416522551
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https://twitter.com/barryisthedon/status/1973236014316659090
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(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/vEAAAOSwKPxn5tzT/s-l1200.png)
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^ that's the biggest shocker to me in this whole ordeal with Wisconsin- is how their OL play seems to have fallen off a cliff. they were the gold standard for OL play in the B1G for decades....
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no lies told. the whole mr brightside thing is pretty fucking gay...it's embarrassing honestly.
https://twitter.com/badgerbarstool/status/1973063586378297370
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There's going to be another Maize out?
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^ that's the biggest shocker to me in this whole ordeal with Wisconsin- is how their OL play seems to have fallen off a cliff. they were the gold standard for OL play in the B1G for decades....
happened overnight to Nebraska
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that's a big brace. is the back-up QB banged up as well?
Not yet.
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Well, O'Neil did leave the Maryland game dinged up--leading to the 3rd stringer qb'ing the garbage time touchdown.
He's going to be running for his life out there, making bad choices under pressure, and--yeah, to 847Badge's poing--isn't likely to make it through the whole game.
Story in today's Milwaukee paper is about the sign stealing game four years ago and how basically no one on the Badger team then cares. That tells you a lot about how much hope the Wisconsin crowd has--no current football story on the Thursday before a game against one of the traditional helmets.
The kids are going to get fired up in the locker room, yell with each other about shocking the world, play the first two series with a little extra pop, and quickly deflate into the recognition that they are not ready to compete in the B1G.
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^ that's the biggest shocker to me in this whole ordeal with Wisconsin- is how their OL play seems to have fallen off a cliff. they were the gold standard for OL play in the B1G for decades....
I couldn't agree more. It's what I always liked about following Badger football. Guys like Ron Dayne would get so much love, but when you really paid attention, the guys in the trenches were unreal. Then the Browns drafted Joe Thomas and everything about that guy was just a straight class act and was a pretty good reflection of all of the Badger fans on CFN too. Too see them with a program deficient on the O-line is just weird and feels out of place.
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...weird and feels out of place.
Sure does.
I think what's so frustrating about this is that if it were year 1 or 2, and you could look at the team and think, well, he just doesn't have the guys yet to run his scheme, there could be room for some forgiveness. But in year three, there is no consistent through line for this team since his first year. Who knows what he wants them to be? I sure don't, and I'd really like to. But it doesn't seem like he knows, either. He's fired his OC midway through season 2, so they are running a different offense. He's instructed his DC to change the look on the D, so while it's the same coaching staff, it's a different defensive look. So he tried one thing, it didn't work; now he's trying another; it's not working. What's next? And why should I have any faith that his third idea will be any better than his first two?
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The air raid idea was really bad for Wisconsin. I think ickell (he lost his F) thought ongo (lot his L) would adapt his concept with Wisconsin's identity and run a power run offense out of the air raid concept.
It didn't go like that - ongo hated Braelon Allen and held him back until ickell put ongo on notice that Allen needed to be fed.
ickell wanted to fire ongo at the end of 2023 and was told he couldn't. How f'ing dumb does that look now?
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Michigan WR Fred Moore no longer on the football team. can't say I blame him for trying to RS and hit the portal. it is a complete joke that through 4 games he never got a shot while they continued to trot Semaj Morgan's trash ass out there as a starter and kept letting Butterfingers Goodwin go out there and drop multiple passes a game.
watch him go somewhere else next year and ball out. lol.
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The air raid idea was really bad for Wisconsin. I think ickell (he lost his F) thought ongo (lot his L) would adapt his concept with Wisconsin's identity and run a power run offense out of the air raid concept.
It didn't go like that - ongo hated Braelon Allen and held him back until ickell put ongo on notice that Allen needed to be fed.
ickell wanted to fire ongo at the end of 2023 and was told he couldn't. How f'ing dumb does that look now?
Air Raid at Wisconsin with a 240 lb athletic freak RB like Braelon Allen was like watching Brady Hoke trying to turn Denard Robinson into a drop back passer. Coach just asking to get fired.
Wisconsin needs to get back to what made them a consistently good program for 30 years. Trench warfare with future NFL OL's and NFL RB's. Pound the rock on offense play stingy on defense. That shit works. And it always will.
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want to feel old? Charles Woodson Jr. supposedly making his first game day visit as a recruit to Michigan for this game. he's a 4* safety recruit out of Orlando, FL.
https://twitter.com/Rivals/status/1973107864349585902
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best player ever period at Michigan and best offensive player to wear #2
https://twitter.com/BNKonFOX/status/1974114567954575523
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The eternal optimist in me says: Michigan overlooks the Badgers (for good reason), and the freshman QB gets rattled when things are going wrong. Kid is awesome, but he's 18 (or so). Throws a pick or two, the Badgers keep the score low with an inspired defensive performance, stuffing the run, and the Badgers pull out an improbable 16-14 win. Chances of anything remotely like that happening? 2%.
So you're saying there's a chance!
But that's crazy talk. This one will be over by the second quarter.
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best player ever period at Michigan and best offensive player to wear #2
https://twitter.com/BNKonFOX/status/1974114567954575523
If Woodson’s kid is half of what he was, he will be a beast.
I’m still depressed over the buckeyes not getting Antoine Winfield’s kid
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Cowherd and Finebaum will be doing play by play, and color commentary.
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/l0MYMizgnsTpoMuoo/source.gif)
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https://twitter.com/CSayf23/status/1974170430056616156
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Who are the top five starters on each team?
Who is the worst starter on each team?
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Who are the top five starters on each team?
Who is the worst starter on each team?
can't speak for Wisconsin, but for Michigan I'd say...
1) Jaishawn Barham, EDGE/LB
2) Justice Haynes, RB
3) Derrick More, EDGE
4) Rayshaun Benny, DT
5) Cole Sullivan, ILB
Worst starter on Michign's team....that's easy...Semaj Morgan, WR. He really sucks.
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Effin rude to put this UW mess on a national stage.
Would prefer it on BTN++.
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Effin rude to put this UW mess on a national stage.
Would prefer it on BTN++.
Exactly. The networks are trying to bury the Wisconsin program.
I have it from pretty solid knowledge from a 247 insider that CBS is taking Wisconsin for Ohio State.
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CBS wants Ohio St - it just happens the Buckeyes are playin the badgers
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Sources: Wisconsin QB Billy Edwards Jr. out vs. Michigan - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46484067/sources-wisconsin-qb-billy-edwards-jr-vs-michigan)
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(https://i.imgur.com/5GvAzq2.png)
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https://twitter.com/mzenitz/status/1974480282448232951 (https://twitter.com/mzenitz/status/1974480282448232951)
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was the back-up with the knee brace O'Neill hurt too? man Fickell has had terrible luck with QB health his entire tenure there.
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just some tough injury luck - give Luke a couple more years
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was the back-up with the knee brace O'Neill hurt too? man Fickell has had terrible luck with QB health his entire tenure there.
Only his feelings are hurt.
He is not good. And I'm being nice.
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just some tough injury luck - give Luke a couple more years
ickell is Wisconsin's Bill Calahan.
Lots of chatter that if UW gets blasted today, he's gone.
The boosters and alumni voices are really loud right now.
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a husker writer did a piece on the parallels
I don't think it's fair to Billy C. ;)
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Michigan players listed as OUT vs Wisconsin:
RB3 or 4 Micah Ka'apana
QB3 or 4 Davis Warren
Michigan players listed as QUESITONABLE vs Wisconsin:
Starting LG Giovanni El-Hadi
RG Brady Norton (he's lost his job to Jake Guaranerra even if he comes back imo)
TE2 Hogan Hansen
Following players are all out for the season:
WR I'Marion Stewart
RB Donovan Johnson
LB Jaydon Hood
LT Andrew Babalola
EDGE Devon Baxter
WR CJ Charleston
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against the nations #1 run defense. kid is a STUD. thanks Bama!
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1974555319897591849
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against the nations #1 run defense. kid is a STUD. thanks Bama!
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1974555319897591849
UW is only the #1 run defense because their secondary sucks. They made a shit Michigan WR room look great today.
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UW is only the #1 run defense because their secondary sucks. They made a shit Michigan WR room look great today.
UW DL is actually pretty solid. They legit impressed me.
Donovan McCulley is a really solid jump ball possession WR at 6'5 with 40" vertical and was a highly productive player at Indiana in 2023 before getting hurt then benched by Cignetti in 2024. He's brand new to the system from the porthole and still learning this offense and he's shown flashes every week.
And Andrew Marsh is a true freshman who was a top 100 overall recruit in the nation from Texas. Kid is a stud and made his first start and can see why he was such a highly rated recruit. Those two guys are most definitely not shit.
Semaj Morgan and Channing Goodwin? Ok you got me there. Both of those guys are shit, suck, and were very lowly rated recruits who haven't proven shit at the college level and can't catch a fucking football to save their lives. Which is why neither started this game and were rarely used/targeted.
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quick thoughts on the game:
Michigan is a team that is improving every single week. On both sides of the ball. Two B1G conference games in a row however it felt like they were in firm control of a game that they should've won by a lot more than they did. On the positive they already have more explosive plays (20+ yards) through 5 games this year than they had all year- by probably double- but they need to convert those into more points.
Giovanni El-Hadi should be back in the starting lineup at LG very soon and that should help boost an OL that is starting to get better and gel. Justice Haynes is an absolute stud. Jordan Marshall is pretty damn good himself. What a RB duo that is. Better RB duo than last years.
Bryce Underwood is improving every single week. They need to make it a point to force feed targets down the field to Donaven McCulley- give him more opportunities to make plays on 50-50 balls down the field. Andrew Marsh HAS to be your other starting WR going forward. Semaj Morgan, Channing Goodwin, and Kendrick Bell continue to stink up the joint and drop catchable passes. Right now Michigan literally only has 2 WR's that are scholarship level and that's McCulley and Marsh.
TE's need to get healthy. Marlin Klein still isn't close to 100% and Hogan Hansen missed another game. This is starting to get concerning. These are both really good TE's and the offense is so much better with multiple TE sets with these two because as mentioned previously- there are literally only 2 scholarship worthy level WR's on the entire roster.
Defense was god awful on that first opening drive. After that they played well. Jyaire Hill needs to hit the bench and Jayden Sanders needs to start over him. Hill at this point is what he is- a dumb football player who bites on every double move- gets his hands on the football but can't make interceptions- and is WAY too grabby/handsy and gets called for DPI's or holdings way too much- and he got away with a pretty obvious DPI today. Was great seeing Rod Moore back out there flying around making plays. Secondary will go up another notch with Moore back at free safety and Jyaire Hill on the bench and Jayden Sanders at CB.
Oh and Jimmy Rolder starting over Cole Sullivan makes absolutely zero sense. Rolder is highly mediocre. Sullivan is a star in the making.
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how bad do Semaj Morgan, Channing Goodwin, and Kendrick Bell suck? this bad:
https://twitter.com/JoshuaBlinder/status/1974546036699144591
https://twitter.com/Menace2Sports/status/1970968632214933637
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I don't think Michigan is that good. ickell played to not get blown out. He quit on his team after that first drive and they got away from what worked. He went into a shell.
https://collegesportswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/big-ten/2025/10/04/wisconsin-football-luke-fickell-quit-michigan-hot-seat/86524358007/ (https://collegesportswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/big-ten/2025/10/04/wisconsin-football-luke-fickell-quit-michigan-hot-seat/86524358007/)
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That writer is not wrong
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:wtf:
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Even Michigan fans get it.
(https://i.imgur.com/46Yn0qa.png)
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And on and on. And they're right. ickell f'ing quit on his team. He should not have a job tomorrow.
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Ya that just might be it, the coup de gras is coming
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Saw a post on one of the Fan Forums "If you told me that Fickell or someone from his staff was trying to get fired, I'd believe you."
another one "If UCLA hangs on to win the players could go up in the stands and personally thank all those that attended."
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with that buy out clause and check coming????
he wants out
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with that buy out clause and check coming????
he wants out
He should cut a deal and exit with some of the little dignity he still has. He's so far over his head, it's impossible to describe.
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Heh. @Mdot21 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1595) 's buddy speaks.
https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1974554867516711410 (https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1974554867516711410)
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https://badgerofhonor.com/luke-fickell-goes-into-a-mind-numbing-coachspeak-rant-in-total-self-preservation-mode?utm_source=gol (https://badgerofhonor.com/luke-fickell-goes-into-a-mind-numbing-coachspeak-rant-in-total-self-preservation-mode?utm_source=gol)
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I don't think Michigan is that good. ickell played to not get blown out. He quit on his team after that first drive and they got away from what worked. He went into a shell.
No one is that good this year. Maybe just Ohio State and Miami, that’s it.
Michigan is a pretty solid team that is young on offense, getting healthier every week and improving every week. And both of their conference games were nowhere near as close as the final scores indicated- Michigan physically dominated and controlled both games but had trouble staying on task for 60 minutes and some serious coaching blunders, mental errors, and dropped passes made both those games appear closer than they actually were.
Wisconsin’s first opening scripted drive was basically all she wrote and after that they got absolutely nothing. Wink Martindale is a dumb fuck who decided to blitz every snap that first opening drive and Wisconsin’s opening scripted drive gashed him and after that he adjusted and when the game really started Wisconsin couldn’t get Jack shit on offense from a talented defense that is loaded with future NFL draft picks.
Michigan isn’t there yet but they are improving every week and if they can continue to develop their true freshman QB Bryce Underwood and true freshman WR Andrew Marsh, get their TE1 & TE2 back healthy and their starting LG who is an All-Conference type player back healthy they could be a threat at the end of the year.
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how bad does Semaj Morgan suck? really bad.
https://twitter.com/JDue51/status/1974801194502508720
https://twitter.com/JDue51/status/1974805607212351804
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No one is that good this year. Maybe just Ohio State and Miami, that’s it.
I would have added Oregon last week, but after Penn State folded yesterday, it takes a lot away from Oregon’s win last week. So I’m right there with you. It’s OSU, Miami and everyone else
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I would have added Oregon last week, but after Penn State folded yesterday, it takes a lot away from Oregon’s win last week. So I’m right there with you. It’s OSU, Miami and everyone else
yeah, all I got to say is thank god Michigan gets Ohio State in Ann Arbor this year in the end of Nov and hopefully the weather will suck hard- cold, windy, and snowy- and make it hard for Sayin to pass the ball.
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his INT shouldn't have counted because Jyaire Hill sucks and commits PI every fucking game...but god damn did Rod Moore look awesome in his first game back in the Big House.
He looks a little thinner than he did in 2023 like he's dropped 10-15 pounds, but he looks noticeably faster than before. I say keep the weight off and keep the speed up. Kid is a HELL of a free safety and him getting back into the groove changes the trajectory of the secondary and defense- along with Zeke Berry coming back at CB. Jyaire Hill at this point needs to hit the bench- he's a liability at CB.
https://twitter.com/trevormccue/status/1974852296187232534
https://twitter.com/NFL_DF/status/1974545667185070225
https://twitter.com/JDue51/status/1974800394929799306
https://twitter.com/JDue51/status/1974780546455908484
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That non-PI call made a big difference in that game.
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I believe I saw that Fickell's buy out is around $25 million. Doubt Wisconsin would fire him anytime soon. Certainly not before they have someone who's a better fit lined up.
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I don't trust the AD to make another decision.