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The Power Four => Big Ten => Topic started by: ManHawk on September 14, 2025, 07:55:45 AM
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What does everybody think? Just how bad is UCLA this year? Why did Minnesota schedule a late night non-conference game in California? My rankings are in a separate post below
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What does everybody think? Just how bad is UCLA this year? Why did Minnesota schedule a late night non-conference game in California? My rankings are in a separate post below
I don't know that the time was set when they scheduled the game. @GopherRock (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=47) or @Benthere2 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=36) might know.
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1. Ohio St
2. Oregon - called off the dogs after going up 34-0 @NW.
3. Penn St -Big game coming in week5 hosting Oregon
4. Illinois - Plays at Ind in week4
5. Indiana - good tests coming in next 3 games. Hosting ILL, @Iowa, @Ore
6. Michigan - upcoming schedule does not look too bad. Mich avoids playing Ore, PSU, ILL, Ind, Iowa this year. But then again, who knows who is good right now?
7. USC - looked decent in cross-country trip to Purdue. Maybe USC should play all its Big Ten road games in September.
8. Iowa - Kirk Ferentz gets the record for Big Ten wins against UMAss? Yes, its a record that includes all his non-conference wins at Iowa.
9. Nebraska
10. Washington
11. Minnesota - demoting the gophers but not too much. Big Ten schools historically do bad in non-conference west coast late night games
12 Wisconsin - lost at Bama. Not going to demote a team for that.
13. Rutgers
14. Purdue
15. Maryland
16. Michigan St
17. Northwestern - despite being dominated by Oregon, I think there are signs NW may get better
18. UCLA - starts season 0-3 losing to Utah, UNLV and New Mexico! UCLA is also the bottom team in the MWC power rankings
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1. fOregon
2. Ohio State
3. Penn State
4. USC
5. Nebraska
6. Indiana
7. Iowa
8. Illinois
9. Washington
10. Michigan
11. Minnesota
12. Wisconsin
13. Michigan State
14. Rutgers
15. Purdue
16. Maryland
17. Northwestern
18. UCLA
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- Oregon
- Ohio State
- Penn State
- Southern California
- Illinois
- Indiana
- Washington
- Michigan
- Nebraska
- Michigan State
- Maryland
- Rutgers
- Wisconsin
- Iowa
- Minnesota
- Purdue
- Northwestern
- California Los Angeles-worst Big Ten team of all time?
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I don't know that the time was set when they scheduled the game. @GopherRock (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=47) or @Benthere2 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=36) might know.
We only learned about the late start a few weeks ago, well after we had booked all our travel out here. We hustled out of the stadium right after the end and barely made it back to get the last BART train of the night out of downtown Berkeley.
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1)Oregon - Ducks win comfortably on the road w/o their top RB
2)Ohio State - little sluggish but I'll take it going into the bye week
3)Penn State - Strong running attack put 'nova way early they have a bye also
4) Indiana - 73-0 offense is tuned to play the Illini next week,should be a great game
5)Illini - would have had them 4 but got out of the gate slow but still beat Western M 38-0
6) Me-e-eshygan - B Uwood ran for 114 yds and D kept woeful central to 3.Next week on the road to Lincoln another good match up
7)'Skers - putting them behind M just because of schedule find out next week as they play
8) USC - Spoilt Children got out of W.Laff. with a W vs Purdue lot of penalties that will kill them vs others
9) Huskies - have played well but off last week getting ready for the Apple Cup
10)Terps - 3-0 with a Freshman QB
11)Ferentz - Offense put up points and Defense seems solid
12)SChiano - 3-0 and offense is humming
13)Goophs - lost to Cal on the road but w/o their best player RB Darius Taylor
14)MSU - 3-0 and maybe the worm is turning in E.L.
15)Badgers - injuries and a wood shedding on the road vs a hot 'Bama squad
16)N.U. - 1-2
17)Purdue 2-1 haven't looked but they may stack up well vs the guys below
18)UCLA - 0-3,ugh keep it up and they may have to portal
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6. Michigan - upcoming schedule does not look too bad. Mich avoids playing Ore, PSU, ILL, Ind, Iowa this year. But then again, who knows who is good right now?
Dayum didn't know this, got a rap on the knuckles by The NCAA now a gift from the schedule makers. :banghead:
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I don't know that the time was set when they scheduled the game. @GopherRock (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=47) or @Benthere2 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=36) might know.
i dont either but i do think it had some affect on the players but the Gophers got their ass handed to them
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46257776/sources-ucla-fires-deshaun-foster-bruins-start-0-3
Well, that did not take long. Deshaun Foster has been fired as the UCLA head football coach.
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1. Penn State
2. Ohio State
3. Oregon
4. Illinois
5. USC
6. Indiana
7. Michigan
8. Iowa
9. Nebraska
10. Washington
11. Minnesota
12. Wisconsin
13. Michigan State
14. Rutgers
15. Maryland
16. Purdue
17. Northwestern
18. UCLA
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1. Penn State
2. Oregon
3. Ohio State
4. Illinois
5. USC
6. Iowa
7. Michigan
8. Nebraska
9. Indiana
10. Washington
11. Wisconsin
12. Michigan State
13. Minnesota
14. Rutgers
15. Purdue
16. Maryland
17. Northwestern
18. UCLA
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Contenders: no change.
1) Ohio State
2) Oregon
3) Penn State
Top-25-ish: only USC played anyone that would impact things unless something shocking happened, and USC didn't do enough to move up or down. So, no change.
4) Michigan
5) USC
6) Illinois
7) Iowa
Also rans:
8) Nebraska: did what it did to stay where it was.
9) Indiana: moves up because Minnesota moved down.
10) Washington: took the week off to rest up after it's brutal tilt with UC-Davis.
11) Michigan State: I guess a win counts for something, but I'm really not sure that it does.
12) Minnesota: touch assignment to play so late on the west coast, but a team that's hoping to finish the season in the top-25 shouldn't lose to Cal with a true freshman quarterback.
13) Wisconsin: defense couldn't stop the pass. Offense kept making little drive-killing mistakes. Sure recipe for disaster against Alabama. But hey, they got a garbage time TD.
14) Rutgers: 3-0 is nice.
Pur-Dont:
15) Purdue: back to reality with USC in town.
16) Maryland: meh.
17) Northwestern: could have been a lot worse?
Mountain West Division of the B1G?
18) UCLA: what. the. ...?
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this is 2025 week 3? Make it make sense
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ESPN FPI - not supposed to make sense - supposed to generate clicks
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Last week in parentheses
- OHIO STATE (1) - I think Ohio might be the best team in the MAC
- OREGON (2) - took a second to wake up, but weird 9 PT kick in a fake stadium
- PENN STATE (3) - not learning anything til next week
- USC (4) - cross country trips are never fun, but offense looked a little shakier than expected
- ILLINOIS (5) - yawn
- MICHIGAN (6) - yawn
- INDIANA (7) - yawn
- IOWA (8) - yawn
- NEBRASKA (9) - yawn
- WASHINGTON (11) - yawn
- RUTGERS (13) - yawn
- MINNESOTA (10) - why would Minnesota add an additional cross country trip
- WISCONSIN (12) - offense remains a problem, defense remains solid, score aside
- MICHIGAN STATE (14) - not quite the yawn it should have been
- MARYLAND (15) - yawn
- PURDUE (16) - showed a ton of fight, can't afford allowing defensive TDs and still get the upset
- NORTHWESTERN (18) - I mean almost by default
- UCLA (17) - sweet Jesus
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Last week in parentheses
- ILLINOIS (5) - yawn
- MICHIGAN (6) - yawn
- INDIANA (7) - yawn
- NEBRASKA (9) - yawn
- RUTGERS (13) - yawn
I believe two of these teams are going to have a season the opposite of yawn in a good way..
Now, which two, get a dart board with someone that doesn't know how to throw a dart
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That was just a yawn based on their games week. Learned nothing
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That was just a yawn based on their games week. Learned nothing
Yes, In other words, their opponents last week were weak. Not even worth commenting on. I agree we learned nothing from those games.
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this week will show much more
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CMU, Houston Christian, Norfolk St, etc don’t teach us a ton?
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not even the Zips
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Every single one of us has the seven biggest brands ranked in our top 10; OSU, M, PSU, N, USC, O, UDub.
That's gotta be the first time that's ever happened.
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Been a while since Nebraska was any good (are they good now?) and when they were good, Michigan was not.
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1997
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So Nebraska and Michigan are inversely related, where in order for one to be up, the other has to be down?
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more now that in the same conference but, not really
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You have one job to do this week 'Skers,actually a public service - don't blow it!!!
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gotta stop the run
I have my doubts
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1997
I thought they were pretty good under Bo Peep. You dummies didn't think so.
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I wasn't one of those dummies
:96:
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You could argue Nebraska did not really fall off a cliff until after 2016.
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FWIW, UCLA was a big brand until fairly recently. They do not seem to appear in many people's top 10.
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FWIW, UCLA was a big brand until fairly recently. They do not seem to appear in many people's top 10.
A big brand... in basketball.
Clearly Indiana and Illinois are the biggest brands among the basketball schools, as they are the only ones that are having their hardwood prestige bleed over into success on the gridiron.
We all agree on 9 of the top ten, in some order.
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You could argue Nebraska did not really fall off a cliff until after 2016.
Bill Callahan fell off a cliff @ Nebraska beginning with a 5-6 record in 2004
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Well...
UCLA is right around #25 in all-time FBS winning percentage, behind USC and Washington, ahead of Oregon, and is #3 in all-time Pac-10/12 conference titles (behind USC and Washington), and 4th in Pac-10/12 Rose Bowl wins (curiously it goes USC, Stanford, Washington, UCLA), same for Rose Bowl appearances.
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Bill Callahan fell off a cliff @ Nebraska beginning with a 5-6 record in 2004
That's when you fell off of the little cliff up on the top.
2016 was when you fell off of the rest of the cliff.
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I guess it's worth noting that I grew up on Pac-10 football in the 1980s, and from the 50s through the 90s, UCLA was definitely a big brand in Pac-10 football. USC was always the biggest, and the Don James era was very good for the Huskies (70s to early 90s).
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Well...
UCLA is right around #25 in all-time FBS winning percentage, behind USC and Washington, ahead of Oregon, and is #3 in all-time Pac-10/12 conference titles (behind USC and Washington), and 4th in Pac-10/12 Rose Bowl wins (curiously it goes USC, Stanford, Washington, UCLA), same for Rose Bowl appearances.
Okay, so on the football side they were the Pac's Minnesota.
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I think closer to Iowa...Wisconsin more recently (until 2020). I think more like Iowa. Minnesota's football history trends a lot more ancient than UCLA's.
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https://twitter.com/Hoosier_Review/status/1968057501842329997
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Well...
UCLA is right around #25 in all-time FBS winning percentage, behind USC and Washington, ahead of Oregon, and is #3 in all-time Pac-10/12 conference titles (behind USC and Washington), and 4th in Pac-10/12 Rose Bowl wins (curiously it goes USC, Stanford, Washington, UCLA), same for Rose Bowl appearances.
Well....
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That's when you fell off of the little cliff up on the top.
2016 was when you fell off of the rest of the cliff.
We could go with 2017
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A big brand... in basketball.
Clearly Indiana and Illinois are the biggest brands among the basketball schools, as they are the only ones that are having their hardwood prestige bleed over into success on the gridiron.
We all agree on 9 of the top ten, in some order.
Although the football team has been down the last couple years, I would argue Mich St is the top basketball brand right now in the Big Ten. They had a pretty good run with Magic Johnson playing and then again they have had a long run of success with Tom Izzo coaching since 2000.
MD, Mich, Purdue and Ohio St have all had decent basketball runs too with mixed football success.
Edit: Never mind. I figured out you were talking about basketball schools with football teams in the top ten. Ignore my post.
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So much for the Power Rankings Thread
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1) Wisconsin.
2) Really good discussions of college football stuff with people who have been around enough not to talk in generalities and sound bytes.
3) Random discussions of things with near strangers who are also friends...which is also kinda random.
4) Trying to find ways to rank Purdue really low without offending a real standup poster.
5) (Puzzling through why Nebraska is here, but liking their posters)
6) A good place to celebrate the little victories in life.
7) A good place to vent about the silliness (so long as it's not politics)
8) Watching MDot and OAM's posts and the responses like a tennis match.
9) Pretty good advice on food and travel.
10) Ohio State vs. Michigan flamewars, that, like any good wildfire, can start and spread anywhere.
18-millionteenth) UCLA.
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puzzling for sure
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4) Trying to find ways to rank Purdue really low without offending a real standup poster.
Really? I'm not sure I'd describe @jhetfield99 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1625) as being "offended" by your rankings of Purdue...
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Yeah, at @grillrat (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=11) wouldn't mind.
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Same with @WhiskeyM (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1624) I reckon.
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They are the ones leading the charge.
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ESPN ranks
by: Nick Schultz
1. Oregon
Entering this year, Oregon faced some questions because of the amount of new faces on the roster. But Dan Lanning’s group looks like it hasn’t missed a beat, entering Week 4 with a perfect 3-0 record and a huge 69-3 victory over Oklahoma State in Week 2.
Dante Moore has had a strong start to the year at quarterback, as well, completing 78.1% of his passes for 657 yards and a touchdown to one interception. The Civil War rivalry matchup awaits against Oregon State in Week 4 before Big Ten play heats up, and the Ducks now find themselves atop ESPN’s Big Ten football rankings.
2. Ohio State
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Ohio State coach Ryan Day has the attention of his team. (© Adam Cairns/Columbus Dispatch / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images)
As it looks to defend its national title, Ohio State has a marquee win over Texas on its early resume. The Buckeyes have since cruised through the non-conference schedule with back-to-back blowout wins over Grambling and Ohio with Washington looming this week.
Quarterback Julian Sayin turned in his best performance of the year against Ohio, completing 25 of 32 passes for 347 yards and three touchdowns, to two interceptions. Wide receiver Jeremiah Smith has also topped 100 yards in back-to-back games, totaling 153 yards against the Bobcats, as Ohio State takes momentum into Big Ten play.
3. USC
After an up-and-down first year in the Big Ten, USC hoped to turn things around quickly. The Trojans now find themselves as the third-ranked team in the conference, according to ESPN, after a victory at Purdue last time out.
USC’s offense is the best in the country after wins against Missouri State, Georgia Southern and Purdue. The Trojans are averaging 604 yards, and quarterback Jayden Maiava’s 329.7 passing yards on average ranks fifth in the nation entering Week 4.
4. Penn State
The preseason favorite in the Big Ten media poll, Penn State returned plenty of firepower from last year’s national semifinal appearance. But despite a 3-0 record, the Nittany Lions come in at No. 4 in ESPN’s Big Ten rankings.
Penn State has won its first three games by an average margin of 38.3 points, but got off to somewhat slow starts against FIU and Villanova. The Nittany Lions get conference play started next week out of the bye as Oregon makes the trip to Happy Valley in primetime.
5. Michigan
Through the first two games of the year, Bryce Underwood showed flashes of his potential as a true freshman. But he shined in a Week 3 win against Central Michigan – leading acting Michigan head coach Biff Poggi to wonder if he “might actually be Batman.”
Underwood went 16 of 25 for 235 yards and a touchdown, to an interception, while leading the Wolverines with 114 rushing yards and two scores on the ground. As a result, Michigan is up to No. 5 in ESPN’s Big Ten football rankings.
6. Indiana
With three blowout non-conference wins under its belt, Indiana will now get Big Ten play underway in Week 4 against Illinois on the primetime stage. The Hoosiers are looking to recapture last year’s magic and make a return to the College Football Playoff in the process.
Through the non-conference schedule, Fernando Mendoza has gotten off to a strong start as IU’s quarterback. He has completed 72.4% of his passes for 708 yards and nine touchdowns as he gets ready for his first Big Ten schedule.
7. Nebraska
Following a huge season-opening win over Cincinnati, Nebraska took care of business to close out the non-conference slate. The Cornhuskers cruised past Akron and Houston Christian in final tuneups before this week’s matchup against Michigan.
Dylan Raiola still has not thrown an interception to star the year as he totaled 829 passing yards and eight touchdowns to start the year. Nebraska is in the Top 10 of ESPN’s Big Ten football rankings, and the sophomore quarterback has an opportunity to make a statement this week against Michigan.
8. Illinois
One of the Big Ten’s more intriguing teams entering the year, Illinois has looked the part so far. The Fighting Illini capitalized on multiple Duke miscues to get a blowout win in Week 2 while also cruising through its other two non-conference games against Western Michigan and Western Illinois.
Now, a Top-25 showdown awaits in Week 4 as Illinois heads to Bloomington to take on Indiana. It’s an opportunity for the Fighting Illini to get a marquee conference win with USC looming and Ohio State farther down the schedule.
9. Washington
Jedd Fisch started off Year 2 at Washington with a win against Colorado State before cruising past UC Davis in Week 2. The Huskies will now get ready for their Apple Cup rivalry game against Washington State in Week 4, closing out the non-conference portion of the schedule.
Washington comes in at No. 9 in ESPN’s Big Ten football rankings as it prepares for its first road game. The Huskies have gotten a huge start from running back Jonah Coleman, who leads the nation with seven touchdowns while averaging 144 yards across two games.
10. Iowa
The Iowa offense drew plenty of attention this offseason following the addition of former FCS standout Mark Gronowski. The Hawkeyes now take a 2-1 record into Big Ten play, with the lone blemish coming in a low-scoring Cy-Hawk game in Week 2.
Iowa got a blowout win against UMass last week to close out the non-conference slate as Gronowski completed 16 of 24 passes for 179 yards and two touchdowns. Now, Rutgers awaits as the Hawkeyes will head to Piscataway for a special Friday night matchup.
Rest of ESPN’s Big Ten rankings
11. Rutgers
12. Wisconsin
13. Minnesota
14. Maryland
15. Michigan State
16. Northwestern
17. Purdue
18. UCLA
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Schedule matters.
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