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The Power Four => Big Ten => Topic started by: ELA on September 04, 2025, 12:48:58 PM
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I've always done the What-If Bowl lineups, as to how the bowls would likely slot based on prior bowl lineups.
As I did last year, now that any semblance of college football as we all learned to love it was gone, I figured each season I would simulate a season alongside the actual season, using SP+
So it will be the teams' present abilities, but using the prior year schedule, conference affiliations, and bowl lineups.
I'll roll a dice and based on that jump back 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 or 60 years.
Last year it came up 2, so I decided to reroll if it came up 2. It came up 5, so 1975 it is.
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PRESEASON RANKINGS
- Texas
- Penn State
- OHIO STATE
- Clemson
- Georgia
- Notre Dame
- Oregon
- Alabama
- LSU
- Miami
- Arizona State
- ILLINOIS
- South Carolina
- MICHIGAN
- Florida
- SMU
- Kansas State
- Oklahoma
- Texas A&M
- INDIANA
- Ole Miss
- Iowa State
- Texas Tech
- Tennessee
- Boise State
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Thursday, September 4
North Texas State d. UT Arlington
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First year Big Ten allowed a second team to go to a bowl. When #4 Michigan blew a 14-7 lead against #1 Ohio State at home in the final 3 minutes, it cost itself the Rose Bowl, but went to the Orange Bowl
There they lost to #3 Oklahoma. But when #2 Texas A&M got smoked by Arkansas, and #1 Ohio State was upset by #11 UCLA in the Rose Bowl, Oklahoma won the national title.
Also at the height of the "Big 2, Little 8", when it was really just the Little 2, Littler 8". Michigan went 1-1-2 in non conference play, tying pretty bad Baylor and Stanford teams, before stomping through the Big Ten. And then OSU couldn't beat #11 to win a national title.
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Purdue in 1975 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Purdue_Boilermakers_football_team) played 8 Big Ten teams and one now-Big Ten team (USC), along with ND and Miami (OH).
Purdue's current team against the current rosters of the teams they faced? I'm guessing your simulation will project them at 2-9. Strong likelihood of beating Miami (OH), and moderate chances against NU and IU. Get clobbered by the rest of the schedule.
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First year Big Ten allowed a second team to go to a bowl. When #4 Michigan blew a 14-7 lead against #1 Ohio State at home in the final 3 minutes, it cost itself the Rose Bowl, but went to the Orange Bowl
There they lost to #3 Oklahoma. But when #2 Texas A&M got smoked by Arkansas, and #1 Ohio State was upset by #11 UCLA in the Rose Bowl, Oklahoma won the national title.
Also at the height of the "Big 2, Little 8", when it was really just the Little 2, Littler 8". Michigan went 1-1-2 in non conference play, tying pretty bad Baylor and Stanford teams, before stomping through the Big Ten. And then OSU couldn't beat #11 to win a national title.
From 1970 through 1980, the Big 10 won just one Rose Bowl. Only OSU and M played in it. OSU leads M with 4 losses in a row to M's 3 losses in a row.
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MSU was the 3rd best team that year, going 7-4.
But they beat both Miami(Ohio) and Notre Dame, both of whom finished in the top 15. Got thumped by both OSU and Michigan. But had a couple of stupid losses to Illinois and Purdue back to back midseason, after reaching #15 in the polls
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And then OSU couldn't beat #11 to win a national title.
Just to clarify, Ohio State did lose to #11 UCLA in the Rose Bowl (stadium and game) but had beaten #13 UCLA in the Rose Bowl (stadium not game) on October 4 so it isn't like Ohio State couldn't compete with the PAC Champions, they beat them badly in October. They just flat out blew it in the Rose Bowl (game and stadium).
This was Woody's last great team, possibly Woody's best team, and certainly one of the best Ohio State teams to not win a National Championship. Ohio State's wins for the season included:
- By 21 on the road over final #5 UCLA
- By 7 on the road over final #8 Michigan
- By 8 at home over final #10 Penn State
- By 21 on the road over MSU who finished unranked but beat final #15 Miami, OH and finished 7-4.
To your point, Woody won his first three Rose Bowls with each win resulting in a NC:
- Beat USC in the 1955 Rose Bowl to claim the 1954 NC.
- Beat Oregon in the 1958 Rose Bowl to claim the 1957 NC.
- Beat USC in the 1969 Rose Bowl to claim the 1968 NC.
After that he took his Ohio State teams to five more Rose Bowls but only won one:
- Lost the 1971 Rose Bowl to Stanford. The Buckeyes were #2 but a win would have won the 1970 NC because #1 Texas lost to Notre Dame in the Cotton Bowl.
- Lost the 1973 Rose Bowl to USC. A win might have won the 1972 NC. USC was #1 and held it by beating #3 Ohio State. Oklahoma was #2 and beat #5 Penn State in the Sugar Bowl so if Ohio State had won the RB they probably would have leapfrogged OU based on the more impressive win but you never know.
- Won the 1974 Rose Bowl over USC but the Buckeyes had no real shot at the NC because they were #4 after tying Michigan in Ann Arbor and #1 Bama played #3 Notre Dame so either way the Buckeyes were not going to jump the winner. FWIW, OU was #2 and did not play a bowl. I assume they were on probation.
- Lost the 1975 Rose Bowl to USC but the Buckeyes had no real shot at the NC because they were #3 with a loss at MSU. Had they beaten USC they'd have likely finished #2 behind 11-0 and #1 OU who did not play a bowl, again I assume due to probation.
- Lost the 1976 Rose Bowl to a UCLA team that they had pounded earlier that season in the Rose Bowl (stadium not game). The Buckeyes were #1 going into the game and would easily have been the NC with a win as the eventual NC was an Oklahoma team that lost badly to a mediocre Kansas team at home earlier in the season.
This is a season that Ohio State fans would love to have a second shot at.
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In retrospect, it is frustrating that Ohio State somehow managed to not win an NC somewhere in 1973-1975.
The Buckeyes over-performed in 1972. They outscored opponents 280-171 but that is only an average of 25.5-15.5 and there was a lot of fluff on the schedule. The pulled a home upset of Michigan (they were undefeated and #3, Ohio State already had the MSU loss and was 8-1 and #9) and got to the Rose Bowl but ultimately that was probably bad for the league because realistically the Wolverines were the better team and the Buckeyes got smoked by #1 USC in Pasadena.
In 1973 the Buckeyes returned a lot and flat obliterated their schedule outscoring opponents 413-64. That works out to 37.5-5.8 per game, yes Ohio State allowed less than six points per game. They also obliterated a top-10 and defending NC Trojan squad out in Pasadena but only finished #2 compliments of a tie in Ann Arbor.
1974 saw the Buckeyes outscore opponents 437-129 which works out to 36.4-10.8 but they got upset in East Lansing and lost by a single point to final #2 USC in Pasadena.
In 1975 the Buckeyes outscored opponents 384-102 which works out to 32-8.5 including destroying UCLA in the Rose Bowl (stadium not game) in October but they lost a rematch with UCLA in the Rose Bowl (stadium and game) and missed out on an NC because of it.
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It's also hilarious that OSU's QB won every honor over Tony Dungy, who was a better QB (by every measure) on a worse team (by every measure)
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Saturday, September 6
#2 Penn State d. Temple
#5 Georgia d. Pittsburgh
#16 SMU d. Wake Forest
Baylor d. #21 Ole Miss
Arkansas State d. Northwestern State
Central Michigan d. Western Michigan
Eastern Michigan d. Ball State
Fresno State d. CS Fullerton
Houston d. Lamar
Marshall d. Akron
Maryland d. Villanova
Memphis State d. Mississippi State
NC State d. East Carolina
NE Louisiana d. Pacific
NM State d. Drake
North Carolina d. William & Mary
San Diego State d. UTEP
SW Louisiana d. Long Beach State
Toledo d. Western Carolina
West Texas State d. Wichita State
Western Kentucky d. Dayton
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Monday, September 8
#8 Alabama d. Missouri
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no mention of UNL in 1975?
that was a coach osborne team
worked it's way up to #2 before the trip to Norman
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no mention of UNL in 1975?
that was a coach osborne team
worked it's way up to #2 before the trip to Norman
Take it to the Big 8 board!
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to the porch!
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Friday, September 12
USC d. Duke
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Saturday, September 13
#1 Texas d. Colorado State
#2 Penn State d. Stanford
#3 OHIO STATE d. MICHIGAN STATE
#4 Clemson d. Tulane
#7 Oregon d. #18 Oklahoma
#9 LSU d. Nebraska
Washington d. #11 Arizona State
IOWA d. #12 ILLINOIS
#13 South Carolina d. Georgia Tech
#14 MICHIGAN d. WISCONSIN
#15 Florida d. #16 SMU
#17 Kansas State d. Tulsa
#21 Ole Miss d. #19 Texas A&M
#20 INDIANA d. MINNESOTA
#22 Iowa State d. UCLA
#23 Texas Tech d. Florida State
#24 Tennessee d. Maryland
#25 BYU d. Bowling Green
Arkansas d. Air Force
Arkansas State d. Idaho
Army d. Holy Cross
Auburn d. Memphis State
Cincinnati d. Richmond
Colorado d. California
Delaware d. VMI
East Carolina d. Appalachian State
Eastern Michigan d. Indiana State
Fresno State d. New Mexico
Hawaii d. Texas A&M-Kingsville
Houston d. Rice
Illinois State d. Western Illinois
Kansas d. Washington State
Kentucky d. Virginia Tech
Lamar d. West Texas State
Louisiana Tech d. McNeese State
Louisville d. Western Kentucky
Miami(Ohio) d. Marshall
NC State d. Wake Forest
NE Louisiana d. Kent State
North Texas State d. Drake
Northern Illinois d. Long Beach State
NORTHWESTERN d. PURDUE
Ohio d. Central Michigan
Oklahoma State d. Wichita State
Oregon State d. San Diego State
San Jose State d. Santa Clara
Southern Miss d. Weber State
Syracuse d. Villanova
SW Louisiana d. Southern Illinois
TCU d. UT Arlington
Tennessee Tech d. Furman
The Citadel d. Presbyterian
Toledo d. Ball State
UC Davis d. Pacific
UL Monroe d. Kent State
Utah d. Utah State
UTEP d. NM State
Vanderbilt d. Chattanooga
Virginia d. Navy
West Virginia d. Temple
Western Michigan d. Akron
Wyoming d. Idaho State
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1975 definitely makes it hard to find YouTube videos of the actual game that year
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Monday, September 15
#6 Notre Dame d. Boston College
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Saturday, September 13
#1 Texas d. Colorado State
#2 Penn State d. Stanford
#3 OHIO STATE d. MICHIGAN STATE
#4 Clemson d. Tulane
#7 Oregon d. #18 Oklahoma
#9 LSU d. Nebraska
Washington d. #11 Arizona State
IOWA d. #12 ILLINOIS
#13 South Carolina d. Georgia Tech
#14 MICHIGAN d. WISCONSIN
#15 Florida d. #16 SMU
#17 Kansas State d. Tulsa
#21 Ole Miss d. #19 Texas A&M
#20 INDIANA d. MINNESOTA
#22 Iowa State d. UCLA
#23 Texas Tech d. Florida State
#24 Tennessee d. Maryland
#25 BYU d. Bowling Green
Arkansas d. Air Force
Arkansas State d. Idaho
Army d. Holy Cross
Auburn d. Memphis State
Cincinnati d. Richmond
Colorado d. California
Delaware d. VMI
East Carolina d. Appalachian State
Eastern Michigan d. Indiana State
Fresno State d. New Mexico
Hawaii d. Texas A&M-Kingsville
Houston d. Rice
Illinois State d. Western Illinois
Kansas d. Washington State
Kentucky d. Virginia Tech
Lamar d. West Texas State
Louisiana Tech d. McNeese State
Louisville d. Western Kentucky
Miami(Ohio) d. Marshall
NC State d. Wake Forest
NE Louisiana d. Kent State
North Texas State d. Drake
Northern Illinois d. Long Beach State
NORTHWESTERN d. PURDUE
Ohio d. Central Michigan
Oklahoma State d. Wichita State
Oregon State d. San Diego State
San Jose State d. Santa Clara
Southern Miss d. Weber State
Syracuse d. Villanova
SW Louisiana d. Southern Illinois
TCU d. UT Arlington
Tennessee Tech d. Furman
The Citadel d. Presbyterian
Toledo d. Ball State
UC Davis d. Pacific
UL Monroe d. Kent State
Utah d. Utah State
UTEP d. NM State
Vanderbilt d. Chattanooga
Virginia d. Navy
West Virginia d. Temple
Western Michigan d. Akron
Wyoming d. Idaho State
Damn, I just looked it up and the A&M/Ole Miss game was the first of the season for A&M. And for the record we beat Ole Miss in real life.
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Yeah back in the 70s and 80s it was pretty common for Texas college football teams not to begin their season until mid-September. And at UT at least, pretty much all September games were night games.
My freshman year, 1990, Texas played a road game @Penn State on September 8th, but our first home game wasn't until September 22nd.
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Damn, I just looked it up and the A&M/Ole Miss game was the first of the season for A&M. And for the record we beat Ole Miss in real life.
Yeah, this is the 1975 schedule
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1975 definitely makes it hard to find YouTube videos of the actual game that year
Oh I got a good one for you from 1975…
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9Lj6_VkpOo
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1975 definitely makes it hard to find YouTube videos of the actual game that year
Bro, story of my life, trying to create old teams for Whoa Nellie.
(random BS example)
Search: 1975 Texas Football
Results:
1985 Texas vs ______
1974 Texas vs ______
1975 Texas A&M vs ________
1975 Texas Bull-Riding Championships
1975 Dallas Cowboys vs ________
It's like WTF, NOOOOO!
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School by school, it's a total crapshoot.
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School by school, it's a total crapshoot.
Yeah, Michigan seems to have a pretty robust collection. But OSU much less so
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slackers
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USC literally has nothing from the mid-60s. I don't mean it's not out there.....USC itself just doesn't have it. I get it, it's a long time ago, but to have stats and stuff from before then and since then...ugh.
Video for schools ranges from full-length games and a wide selection to having nothing but a 3-min version of the bowl game for an entire season.
I've even found that the only video from a team's season is a silent 'coaches cam' type thing. And not way back, but like 70s-80s, that's all that remains, video-wise.
It can be very difficult when I'm looking for a 4th-string RB's jersey number or who the punter is.
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SEPTEMBER 16 POLL
- Texas (1-0) 1
- Penn State (2-0) 2
- OHIO STATE (1-0) 3
- Clemson (1-0) 4
- Georgia (1-0) 5
- Notre Dame (1-0) 6
- Oregon (1-0) 7
- Alabama (1-0) 8
- LSU (1-0) 9
- Miami (0-0) 10
- South Carolina (1-0) 13
- MICHIGAN (1-0) 14
- Florida (1-0) 15
- Kansas State (1-0) 17
- INDIANA (1-0) 20
- Washington (1-0) -
- Arizona State (0-1) 11
- IOWA (1-0) -
- ILLINOIS (0-1) 12
- Baylor (1-0) -
- Ole Miss (1-1) 21
- SMU (1-1) 16
- Oklahoma (0-1) 18
- Iowa State (1-0) 23
- Texas Tech (1-0) 23
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Nebraska opened the 1975 season without a number of key players, but the Huskers pulled out a 10-7 victory over stubborn Louisiana State.
NU got on the board first with a pass from Terry Luck to Bobby Thomas, a five-yard flip late in the first half. Mike Coyle’s 37-yard field goal gave Nebraska a 10-0 lead with 5:23 left in the third quarter. LSU stormed back to score just before the quarter ended, and then the two defensive units staged a fourth-quarter standoff.
The Huskers went into battle without All America Rik Bonness (injury) and four players ruled ineligible for the game by the NCAA – Jimmy Burrow, Ray Phillips, Vince Ferragamo and Dean Gissler. It was also the first time all members of the Cornhusker squad were unable to suit up, thanks to a new NCAA rule limiting the squad to 60 in suit.
While it wasn’t a high-scoring affair, Nebraska – with a new quarterback, a rebuilt defense and an offensive line that had never started a game together – proved it could win a close one, and 1975 opened on a victorious note.
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Friday, September 19
USC d. Oregon State
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Saturday, September 20
#1 Texas d. #16 Washington
#2 Penn State d. #3 OHIO STATE
#8 Alabama d. #4 Clemson
#5 Georgia d. Mississippi State
#6 Notre Dame d. PURDUE
#7 Oregon d. San Jose State
#9 LSU d. Texas A&M
#10 Miami d. Georgia Tech
#11 South Carolina d. Duke
#12 MICHIGAN d. Stanford
#13 Florida d. NC State
#14 Kansas State d. Wichita State
Nebraska d. #15 INDIANA
#17 Arizona State d. TCU
Syracuse d. #18 IOWA
#19 ILLINOIS d. Missouri
Auburn d. #20 Baylor
#21 Ole Miss d. Tulane
Pittsburgh d. #23 Oklahoma
#24 Iowa State d. Air Force
#25 Texas Tech d. New Mexico
Akron d. Dayton
Arizona d. Pacific
Arkansas State d. McNeese State
Army d. Lehigh
Boston College d. Temple
BYU d. Colorado State
California d. West Virginia
Central Michigan d. Northern Michigan
Cincinnati d. Memphis State
Colorado d. Wyoming
CS Fullerton d. Long Beach State
East Carolina d. William & Mary
Eastern Kentucky d. Chattanooga
Florida State d. Utah State
Fresno State d. CS Northridge
Hawaii d. Grambling State
Kentucky d. Kansas
Louisiana Tech d. UT Arlington
Louisville d. Drake
Marshall d. Morehead State
Maryland d. North Carolina
MICHIGAN STATE d. Miami(Ohio)
MINNESOTA d. Western Michigan
Navy d. Connecticut
NE Louisiana d. Eastern Michigan
NM State d. Lamar
Northern Illinois d. NORTHWESTERN
Ohio d. Ball State
Oklahoma State d. Arkansas
Richmond d. Furman
Rutgers d. Bucknell
San Diego State d. North Texas State
Southern Illinois d. Indiana State
Southern Miss d. Bowling Green
Tennessee d. UCLA
The Citadel d. Colgate
Toledo d. Villanova
Utah d. Washington State
UTEP d. East Tennessee State
Vanderbilt d. Rice
Virginia d. VMI
Virginia Tech d. Kent State
Wake Forest d. Appalachian State
Western Kentucky d. Illinois State
WISCONSIN d. South Dakota
Actual 1975 OSU-PSU
https://youtu.be/tITltAHCHiU?si=gTXkENtb4Y1GBC3O
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SEPTEMBER 23 POLL
- Texas (2-0) 1
- Penn State (3-0) 2
- Georgia (2-0) 5
- Notre Dame (2-0) 6
- Oregon (2-0) 7
- Alabama (2-0) 8
- LSU (2-0) 9
- Miami (1-0) 10
- South Carolina (2-0) 11
- MICHIGAN (2-0) 12
- Florida (2-0) 13
- OHIO STATE (1-1) 3
- Clemson (1-1) 4
- Kansas State (2-0) 14
- Arizona State (1-1) 17
- ILLINOIS (1-1) 19
- Syracuse (2-0) -
- Auburn (2-0) -
- Ole Miss (2-1) 21
- SMU (1-1) 22
- INDIANA (1-1) 15
- Washington (1-1) 16
- IOWA (1-1) 18
- Iowa State (2-0) 24
- Texas Tech (2-0) 25
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Friday, September 26
Oklahoma d. #8 Miami
Pacific d. Long Beach State
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Saturday, September 27
#1 Texas d. #25 Texas Tech
#23 IOWA d. #2 Penn State
#3 Georgia d. #9 South Carolina
#4 Notre Dame d. NORTHWESTERN
MINNESOTA d. #5 Oregon
#6 Alabama d. Vanderbilt
#7 LSU d. Rice
#10 MICHIGAN d. Baylor
Mississippi State d. #11 Florida
#12 OHIO STATE d. North Carolina
Georgia Tech d. #13 Clemson
#14 Kansas State d. Wake Forest
BYU d. #15 Arizona State
Texas A&M d. #16 ILLINOIS
Tulane d. #17 Syracuse
Tennessee d. #18 Auburn
#19 Ole Miss d. Southern Miss
#20 SMU d. Houston
Utah d. #21 INDIANA
#22 Washington d. Navy
Florida State d. #24 Iowa State
Air Force d. UCLA
Akron d. Central State
Appalachian State d. Furman
Arizona d. Wyoming
Arkansas d. Tulsa
Army d. Villanova
Boston College d. West Virginia
Bowling Green d. Dayton
Cal Poly d. CS Fullerton
Colgate d. Cornell
Colorado d. Wichita State
Colorado State d. New Mexico
Connecticut d. Yale
East Carolina d. Southern Illinois
Eastern Michigan d. McNeese State
Fresno State d. Montana State
Harvard d. Holy Cross
Kansas d. Oregon State
Kentucky d. Maryland
Jacksonville State d. Chattanooga
Lafayette d. Columbia
Lehigh d. Penn
Louisiana Tech d. Lamar
Louisville d. Cincinnati
Marshall d. Illinois State
Massachusetts d. Dartmouth
Memphis State d. Arkansas State
Miami(Ohio) d. Ball State
MICHIGAN STATE d. NC State
NE Louisiana d. Drake
Nebraska d. TCU
Northern Illinois d. Western Michigan
Ohio d. Kent State
Oklahoma State d. North Texas State
Pittsburgh d. William & Mary
Rhode Island d. Brown
Rutgers d. Princeton
Stanford d. San Jose State
SW Louisiana d. NM State
The Citadel d. Wofford
Toledo d. Central Michigan
USC d. PURDUE
Utah State d. San Diego State
Virginia d. Duke
Virginia Tech d. Richmond
VMI d. Davidson
Washington State d. California
WISCONSIN d. Missouri
1975 Penn State at Iowa
https://youtu.be/tZ3l99eB0kg?si=_u5hXn-s48CDNrxz
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Texas A&M d. #16 ILLINOIS
This game is notable because A&M has played so few Big 10 opponents over the course of history. I think we've only played a Big Ten opponent in the preseason like 8 times, and this may have been the last one.
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I had a post somewhere on this board that listed all the games, but I have no idea where to look.
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I had a post somewhere on this board that listed all the games, but I have no idea where to look.
Here ya go, @Gigem (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1706) .
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Texas A&M vs conferences 1920-2023 (https://stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/confres.pl?start=1920&end=2023&team=TexasAM&limit=50)
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SEPTEMBER 30 POLL
- Texas (3-0) 1
- Georgia (3-0) 3
- Notre Dame (3-0) 4
- Alabama (3-0) 6
- LSU (3-0) 7
- MICHIGAN (3-0) 10
- IOWA (2-1) 23
- Penn State (3-1) 2
- OHIO STATE (2-1) 12
- Kansas State (3-0) 14
- Ole Miss (3-1) 19
- Tennessee (3-0) -
- Oregon (2-1) 5
- Miami (1-1) 8
- South Carolina (2-1) 9
- SMU (2-1) 20
- Washington (2-1) 22
- BYU (3-0) -
- Florida (2-1) 11
- Kentucky (3-0) -
- Colorado (3-0) -
- Oklahoma State (3-0) -
- Syracuse (2-1) 17
- Auburn (2-1) 18
- Virginia (3-0) -
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When did Texas A&M almost poach Bo, in relation to that 41-3 loss in Ann Arbor?
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Here ya go, @Gigem (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1706) .
[img width=500 height=331.989]https://i.imgur.com/05nrgaO.png[/img]
Texas A&M vs conferences 1920-2023 (https://stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/confres.pl?start=1920&end=2023&team=TexasAM&limit=50)
The fact that aTm played in Columbus and Ann Arbor in back-to-back weeks in 1970 got me curious so I looked it up.
The Aggies played a MONSTER schedule that year. They had four OOC games and seven SWC games. The four OOC opponents were an easy home game against a terrible Wichita State team (they finished 0-9) then three road games all against teams that finished in the top-9:
- #5 Ohio State in Columbus
- #7 LSU in Baton Rouge
- #9 Michigan in Ann Arbor
Within the SWC they played #3 Texas, #11 Arkansas, and a TxTech team that finished almost ranked.
The Aggies actually beat LSU which is amazing considering that LSU won the SEC and aTm finished 2-9 with the only other win coming in the aforementioned game against Wichita State. In total, aTm started 2-0 including a road win over (then) #12 LSU then lost nine straight:
- 56-13 to (then) #1 Ohio State in Columbus
- 14-10 to #9 Michigan in Ann Arbor
- 21-7 to TxTech at home
- 31-15 to TCU at home
- 29-24 to Baylor in Waco
- 45-6 to #8 Arkansas at home
- 6-3 to SMU in University Park
- 18-17 to Rice at home
- 52-14 to #1 Texas in Austin
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Texas A&M d. #16 ILLINOIS
This game is notable because A&M has played so few Big 10 opponents over the course of history. I think we've only played a Big Ten opponent in the preseason like 8 times, and this may have been the last one.
What @847badgerfan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=5) shared does seem like an unusually low number of OOC games against B1G/Big11Ten/Big Ten teams.
Per that site, in their entire history aTm only has 15 games against Big Ten teams:
- 1 at home, 1-0 a 43-13 win over Illinois on 9/27/1975.
- 6 on the road, 2-4 Two each in Ann Arbor and Columbus (0-4) with wins in Champaign and East Lansing.
- 8 neutral site, 3-5 Three Alamo Bowls (1-2), a Sugar Bowl (0-1), a Cotton Bowl (0-1), and a Meinke Car Care Bowl (1-0). Then there were two regular season neutral-site games in Dallas (1-1 against Iowa and Purdue in 1931 and 1967).
That 1975 game against Illinois wasn't the most recent regular season game but it was close. They travelled to Illinois in 1976 then Michigan in 1977 and haven't played a scheduled game against a Big Ten / Big11Ten / B1G team since.
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Here ya go, @Gigem (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1706) .
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Texas A&M vs conferences 1920-2023 (https://stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/confres.pl?start=1920&end=2023&team=TexasAM&limit=50)
The only thing about that graphic is that it shows all games including bowl games. We have not played a non-conference, regular season game vs any team from the Big 10 since the 1970's, and only 9 total in 100 years. We have played a lot of ACC and PAC games in that same time frame, including 4 games vs Notre Dame in the last 25 years non-conference.
Doesn't that seem strange to you?
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The only thing about that graphic is that it shows all games including bowl games. We have not played a non-conference, regular season game vs any team from the Big 10 since the 1970's, and only 9 total in 100 years. We have played a lot of ACC and PAC games in that same time frame, including 4 games vs Notre Dame in the last 25 years non-conference.
Doesn't that seem strange to you?
Hmmm it might be strange, but Texas rarely played the B10 as well. Before the 2005/6 series against Ohio State, you have to go back to 1965/6 with a home-and-home series against Indiana.
Horns played a lot of SEC, PAC, ACC, and of course Big 8 teams (due to the annual OOC game against OU), but almost zero B10 teams.
Several games against PSU in the 80s and 1990, but then nothing once they joined the B10.
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Friday, October 3
#18 BYU d. New Mexico
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Saturday, October 4
#1 Texas d. Utah State
#2 Georgia d. Clemson
#3 Notre Dame d. MICHIGAN STATE
#4 Alabama d. #11 Ole Miss
#5 LSU d. #19 Florida
Missouri d. #6 MICHIGAN
#7 IOWA d. USC
#8 Penn State d. #20 Kentucky
#9 OHIO STATE d. UCLA
Texas A&M d. #10 Kansas State
#13 Oregon d. #17 Washington
Nebraska d. #14 Miami
#15 South Carolina d. Baylor
#16 SMU d. West Virginia
Oklahoma d. #21 Colorado
Texas Tech d. #22 Oklahoma State
Maryland d. #23 Syracuse
#24 Auburn d. Virginia Tech
#25 Virginia d. North Carolina
Appalachian State d. Tennessee Tech
Arizona State d. Idaho
Ball State d. Indiana State
Boston College d. Villanova
Bucknell d. Cornell
California d. San Jose State
Central Michigan d. Illinois State
Cincinnati d. Temple
Dartmouth d. Holy Cross
Delaware d. Akron
Drake d. Northern Iowa
Duke d. Pittsburgh
East Carolina d. Richmond
Florida State d. Georgia Tech
Fresno State d. CS Pomona
Furman d. VMI
Harvard d. Boston University
ILLINOIS d. Washington State
INDIANA d. NC State
Kansas d. WISCONSIN
Louisville d. Wichita State
Marshall d. McNeese State
Memphis State d. North Texas State
Middle Tennessee State d. Chattanooga
MINNESOTA d. Ohio
Mississippi State d. Southern Miss
Navy d. Air Force
NE Louisiana d. NW State
NM State d. Tulsa
Northern Illinois d. Kent State
NORTHWESTERN d. Arizona
Oregon State d. Grambling State
Penn d. Brown
Princeton d. Columbia
PURDUE d. Miami(Ohio)
Rutgers d. Hawaii
San Diego State d. CS Fullerton
Southern Illinois d. Long Beach State
Stanford d. Army
SW Louisiana d. Arkansas State
TCU d. Arkansas
Toledo d. Dayton
Utah d. Iowa State
UT Arlington d. West Texas State
UTEP d. Pacific
Vanderbilt d. Tulane
Western Michigan d. Bowling Green
William & Mary d. The Citadel
Wyoming d. Colorado State
Yale d. Colgate
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OCTOBER 5 POLL
- Texas (4-0) 1
- Georgia (4-0) 2
- Notre Dame (4-0) 3
- Alabama (4-0) 4
- LSU (4-0) 5
- IOWA (3-1) 7
- Penn State (4-1) 8
- OHIO STATE (3-1) 9
- Tennessee (3-0) 12
- Oregon (3-1) 13
- South Carolina (3-1) 15
- MICHIGAN (3-1) 6
- SMU (3-1) 16
- BYU (4-0) 18
- Auburn (3-1) 24
- Virginia (4-0) 25
- Kansas State (3-1) 10
- Nebraska (3-1) -
- Texas Tech (3-1) -
- Ole Miss (3-2) 11
- Miami (1-2) 14
- Washington (2-2) 17
- Florida (2-2) 19
- Vanderbilt (3-1) -
- Kentucky (3-1) 20
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Nebraska trailed stubborn Miami 9-7 at the half but rallied behind 24 second-half points and quarterback Vince Ferragamo to defeat the Hurricanes 31-16.
Miami, a team coached by former Husker assistant Carl Selmer that had taken Oklahoma to the hilt before losing 20-17 the previous week, struck for six first-quarter points on two field goals by Chris Dennis. Nebraska’s only first-half score was set up when linebacker Jim Wightman recovered a Hurricane fumble on the Miami 25. Five plays later, I-back John O’Leary scored from three yards out with 10:20 left in the half. However, the Hurricanes led 9-7 at the break after Dennis kicked an 18-yard field goal four minutes later.
Nebraska came out in the third quarter behind Ferragamo’s throwing and O’Leary’s running to score 10 points and take a 17-9 lead. In the final frame, the Huskers finally put the game out of reach, scoring on an eight-yard run by O’Leary and a 40-yard pass from Ferragamo to Bobby Thomas to make it NU 31, UM 9. Miami scored once before the final gun, making the final score 31-16.
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Nebraska trailed stubborn Miami 9-7 at the half but rallied behind 24 second-half points and quarterback Vince Ferragamo to defeat the Hurricanes 31-16.
Miami, a team coached by former Husker assistant Carl Selmer that had taken Oklahoma to the hilt before losing 20-17 the previous week, struck for six first-quarter points on two field goals by Chris Dennis. Nebraska’s only first-half score was set up when linebacker Jim Wightman recovered a Hurricane fumble on the Miami 25. Five plays later, I-back John O’Leary scored from three yards out with 10:20 left in the half. However, the Hurricanes led 9-7 at the break after Dennis kicked an 18-yard field goal four minutes later.
Nebraska came out in the third quarter behind Ferragamo’s throwing and O’Leary’s running to score 10 points and take a 17-9 lead. In the final frame, the Huskers finally put the game out of reach, scoring on an eight-yard run by O’Leary and a 40-yard pass from Ferragamo to Bobby Thomas to make it NU 31, UM 9. Miami scored once before the final gun, making the final score 31-16.
https://youtu.be/j_JjQ0KYdmk?si=9ikYDlQ0Oj1g-_k1
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Friday, October 10
TCU d. #13 SMU
#21 Miami d. Colorado
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Saturday, October 11
Oklahoma d. #1 Texas
#2 Georgia d. #20 Ole Miss
#3 Notre Dame d. North Carolina
#4 Alabama d. #22 Washington
#9 Tennessee d. #5 LSU
#7 Penn State d. West Virginia
#8 OHIO STATE d. #6 IOWA
#10 Oregon d. California
#11 South Carolina d. #16 Virginia
#12 MICHIGAN d. MICHIGAN STATE
#14 BYU d. Air Force
#15 Auburn d. #25 Kentucky
#17 Kansas State d. Iowa State
#18 Nebraska d. Kansas
Texas A&M d. #19 Texas Tech
#23 Florida d. #24 Vanderbilt
Akron d. Northern Michigan
Appalachian State d. East Tennessee State
Arizona State d. New Mexico
Ball State d. Richmond
Baylor d. Arkansas
Brown d. Yale
Central Michigan d. Eastern Michigan
Cincinnati d. Tulsa
Clemson d. Wake Forest
Colgate d. Holy Cross
Duke d. Army
East Carolina d. The Citadel
Florida State d. Virginia Tech
Fresno State d. San Diego State
Georgia Tech d. VMI
Harvard d. Columbia
ILLINOIS d. MINNESOTA
INDIANA d. NORTHWESTERN
Louisiana Tech d. SW Louisiana
Louisville d. Chattanooga
McNeese State d. UT Arlington
Memphis State d. Southern Miss
Miami(Ohio) d. Dayton
Mississippi State d. Rice
Missouri d. Oklahoma State
Navy d. Syracuse
NC State d. Maryland
NE Louisiana d. Lamar
NM State d. Wichita State
North Texas State d. Houston
Northern Illinois d. Indiana State
Ohio d. William & Mary
Oregon State d. Colorado State
Pacific d. CS Fullerton
Penn d. Dartmouth
Pittsburgh d. Temple
Presbyterian d. Furman
Princeton d. Cornell
Rutgers d. Lehigh
San Jose State d. Long Beach State
Southern Illinois d. Illinois State
Toledo d. Bowling Green
Tulane d. Boston College
UCLA d. Stanford
Utah d. Wyoming
UTEP d. Arizona
Western Michigan d. Kent State
WISCONSIN d. PURDUE
1975 Tennessee-LSU
https://youtu.be/aIQbvFNxPNI?si=ad9DBn-wZbw1KTt8
And for some reason, no game, but Florida-Vandy
https://youtu.be/l2feZ9rYh6E?si=dNoY7Otn0E48UrTt
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I'm also interested in the games A&M played in Dallas. I feel like schools did that a lot back then. Florida played quite a few games in Tampa back in the day.
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OCTOBER 12 POLL
- Georgia (5-0) 2
- Notre Dame (5-0) 3
- Alabama (5-0) 4
- Tennessee (4-0) 9
- Penn State (5-1) 7
- OHIO STATE (4-1) 8
- Texas (4-1) 1
- Oregon (4-1) 10
- South Carolina (4-1) 11
- LSU (4-1) 5
- MICHIGAN (4-1) 12
- Auburn (4-1) 15
- BYU (5-0) 14
- Kansas State (4-1) 17
- Nebraska (4-1) 18
- IOWA (3-2) 6
- Miami (2-2) 21
- Florida (3-2) 23
- Virginia (4-1) 16
- INDIANA (3-1) -
- USC (4-1) -
- Oklahoma (3-2) -
- TCU (3-2) -
- SMU (3-2) 13
- Texas A&M (3-2) -
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so, I can believe that Iowa upsets a couple good teams early in the season but,..................
where do they get the respect from voters to be the highest ranked 1-loss team and then the highest ranked 2-loss team in the poll?
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so, I can believe that Iowa upsets a couple good teams early in the season but,..................
where do they get the respect from voters to be the highest ranked 1-loss team and then the highest ranked 2-loss team in the poll?
ANF
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it's true but, the farmer's kids go to school in Ames
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Friday, October 17
#17 Miami d. Houston
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Saturday, October 18
#1 Georgia d. Vanderbilt
#2 Notre Dame d. Air Force
#3 Alabama d. #4 Tennessee
#5 Penn State d. Syracuse
#6 OHIO STATE d. WISCONSIN
#7 Texas d. Arkansas
#8 Oregon d. #21 USC
Ole Miss d. #9 South Carolina
#10 LSU d. Kentucky
#11 MICHIGAN d. NORTHWESTERN
#12 Auburn d. Georgia Tech
#22 Oklahoma d. #14 Kansas State
Oklahoma State d. #15 Nebraska
#20 INDIANA d. #16 IOWA
#18 Florida d. Florida State
Virginia Tech d. #19 Virginia
#25 Texas A&M d. #23 TCU
#24 SMU d. Rice
Appalachian State d. Lenoir-Rhyne
Arizona State d. Colorado State
Ball State d. Central Michigan
Boston College d. Navy
Brown d. Dartmouth
California d. Oregon State
Chattanooga d. East Tennessee State
Cincinnati d. Arkansas State
CS Fullerton d. UC Riverside
Drake d. West Texas State
Duke d. Clemson
East Carolina d. Western Carolina
Eastern Michigan d. Northern Michigan
Fresno State d. Long Beach State
Furman d. Holy Cross
Harvard d. Cornell
Hawaii d. Portland State
ILLINOIS d. PURDUE
Indiana State d. Dayton
Kansas d. Iowa State
Kent State d. Bowling Green
Louisiana Tech d. NW State
Louisville d. Memphis State
Marshall d. Villanova
MINNESOTA d. MICHIGAN STATE
Mississippi State d. North Texas State
Missouri d. Colorado
NE Louisiana d. McNeese State
North Carolina d. NC State
Northern Illinois d. Southern Illinois
Ohio d. Miami(Ohio)
Penn d. Lafayette
Pittsburgh d. Army
Princeton d. Colgate
Richmond d. VMI
Rutgers d. William & Mary
San Diego State d. NM State
San Jose State d. Pacific
Southern Miss d. UT Arlington
SW Louisiana d. Lamar
Temple d. Akron
Texas Tech d. Arizona
The Citadel d. Davidson
Toledo d. Western Michigan
Tulsa d. Wichita State
UCLA d. Washington State
Utah d. New Mexico
Utah State d. Weber State
UTEP d. Wyoming
Wake Forest d. Maryland
Washington d. Stanford
West Virginia d. Tulane
Yale d. Columbia
1975 Alabama-Tennessee
https://youtu.be/sL8oMUYjgwo?si=mq5pvneaNXz9nwwr
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OCTOBER 19 POLL
- Georgia (6-0) 1
- Notre Dame (6-0) 2
- Alabama (6-0) 3
- Penn State (6-1) 5
- OHIO STATE (5-1) 6
- Texas (5-1) 7
- Oregon (5-1) 8
- LSU (5-1) 10
- MICHIGAN (6-1) 11
- Auburn (5-1) 12
- Tennessee (4-1) 4
- BYU (5-0) 13
- INDIANA (4-1) 20
- Miami (3-2) 17
- Florida (4-2) 18
- Oklahoma (4-2) 22
- Ole Miss (4-2) -
- South Carolina (4-2) 9
- SMU (4-2) 24
- Texas A&M (4-2) 25
- Kansas State (4-2) 14
- Oklahoma State (4-2) -
- Nebraska (4-2) 15
- Virginia (4-2) 19
- USC (4-2) 21
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Friday, October 24
West Virginia d. Virginia Tech
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Saturday, October 25
#1 Georgia d. Kentucky
#2 Notre Dame d. #25 USC
TCU d. #3 Alabama
#4 Penn State d. Army
#5 OHIO STATE d. PURDUE
#6 Texas d. Rice
#7 Oregon d. Utah
#8 LSU d. #18 South Carolina
#9 MICHIGAN d. #13 INDIANA
#10 Auburn d. Florida State
#11 Tennessee d. North Texas State
#12 BYU d. Wyoming
Duke d. #15 Florida
#16 Oklahoma d. Iowa State
#17 Ole Miss d. Vanderbilt
Texas Tech d. #19 SMU
#20 Texas A&M d. Baylor
Missouri d. #21 Kansas State
Kansas d. #22 Oklahoma State
#23 Nebraska d. Colorado
#24 Virginia d. Wake Forest
Akron d. Youngstown State
Appalachian State d. Richmond
Arizona d. New Mexico
Arizona State d. UTEP
Arkansas d. Utah State
Arkansas State d. Lamar
Brown d. Holy Cross
California d. UCLA
Central Michigan d. Kent State
Cincinnati d. SW Louisiana
Clemson d. NC State
East Carolina d. North Carolina
Eastern Michigan d. Western Illinois
Fresno State d. Pacific
Drake d. Long Beach State
Georgia Tech d. Tulane
Harvard d. Dartmouth
Hawaii d. Santa Clara
Illinois State d. Indiana State
IOWA d. MINNESOTA
Lafayette d. Colgate
Louisiana Tech d. Southern Miss
Marshall d. Western Michigan
McNeese State d. Dayton
Memphis State d. Tulsa
Miami(Ohio) d. Bowling Green
MICHIGAN STATE d. ILLINOIS
Mississippi State d. Louisville
NE Louisiana d. SE Louisiana
NM State d. UT-Arlington
Northern Illinois d. Ball State
Ohio d. Toledo
Penn d. Princeton
Pittsburgh d. Navy
Rutgers d. Columbia
San Jose State d. CS Fullerton
Southern Illinois d. Wichita State
Syracuse d. Boston College
Temple d. Delaware
The Citadel d. VMI
Washington d. Oregon State
Washington State d. Stanford
Western Carolina d. Chattanooga
William & Mary d. Furman
WISCONSIN d. NORTHWESTERN
Yale d. Cornell
1975 Notre Dame-USC
https://youtu.be/S13EZq03e94?si=QgkVvfW1216JJTx9
1975 Michigan-Indiana
https://youtu.be/tWaJ2yzboGA?si=8Lw99PlU1XAZDuYp
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having a tough season but at least beat Ralphie!
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Why does Rice play Texas?
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Why does Rice play Texas?
Because they are conference foes?
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Because they are conference foes?
I'll let YOU tell that to JFK...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Texas_Longhorns_football_team
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/z4zEkaVVWtg
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Ah, forgot about that
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October 26 Poll
- Georgia (7-0) 1
- Notre Dame (7-0) 2
- Penn State (7-1) 4
- OHIO STATE (6-1) 5
- Texas (6-1) 6
- Oregon (6-1) 7
- LSU (6-1) 8
- MICHIGAN (7-1) 9
- Alabama (6-1) 3
- Auburn (6-1) 10
- Tennessee (5-1) 11
- BYU (6-0) 12
- Miami (3-2) 14
- Oklahoma (5-2) 16
- Ole Miss (5-2) 17
- Texas A&M (5-2) 20
- Nebraska (5-2) 23
- Virginia (5-2) 24
- INDIANA (4-2) 13
- Texas Tech (5-2) -
- Kansas (5-2) -
- Rutgers (6-0) -
- Mississippi State (5-2) -
- Fresno State (8-0) -
- Louisiana Tech (6-0) -
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Sooners & Huskers with 2 losses in October?!?!?