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The Power Four => Big Ten => Topic started by: GopherRock on August 28, 2025, 01:01:17 PM
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https://twitter.com/UMNews/status/1961064329484062972
The proceedings begin at 7 PM CDT from the New Brickhouse.
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SFGopher29 for the win.
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Looking forward to watching tonight's Nebraska Vs Cincinnati game with a mixed drink, chips & salsa, and my pets huddled by my feet.
Since this game will be played at Arrowhead in Kansas City, it makes sense for Travis Kelce to be on the sidelines. Needless to say, Travis Kelce plays for the Chiefs and played his college ball at Cincinnati. Arrowhead is his home and he will be playing host to a part of his younger years.
However, this means I will be watching tonight's game on MUTE. No doubt the announcers will be FAWNING over Travis Kelce every chance they get. No doubt the cameras will hone in for lengthy shots on Travis Kelce MORE than any player or coach. And when they can't focus on Travis Kelce, they will force comparisons between Dylan Raiola and Patrick Mahomes.
ESPN wants nothing more than to be a 247 NFL channel, especially this time of year. Especially with Kelce's recent engagement.
https://twitter.com/SportsDailyKC/status/1960379398650986824
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LETS FUCKIN GO!!!!
(Not the Minnesota part. Go Bulls)
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That damn Rutgers game better not run long.
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That damn Rutgers game better not run long.
At least three overtimes.
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SFGopher29 for the win.
Man, you got old
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State of Ohio, with the Thursday night Big Ten sweep.
Ohio U, Cincinnati and Miami. 3-0.
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Man, you got old
No kidding.
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Man, you got old
I've been here for 24+ years. You've been here almost as long.
I was 34! I think you were like 15 or something when you started here (at the same time as a very young @MichiFan87 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=24) .
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No kidding.
20 years ago, we were in a parking lot in Madison. Kurt was using his SEC speed to outrun the Madison police!
I'm sure @eltigrerex (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1580) remembers it well. Maybe?
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Don't speed up time too much...that was 18 years ago, damnit. SFGopher was a few months old.
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I think I first showed up here in January '06, right after Ohio State stomped on Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl.
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Sorry... Memory fades.
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No kidding.
Glad I didn't
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That damn Rutgers game better not run long.
I'd be rooting for Ohio if Frankie was still on the sidelines
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Even if he were on the sidelines in a non-coaching capacity?
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No
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College football was better when Frank Solich was coaching against Dave Wanndstedt in a battle of the Ohio Valley
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Wannstedt was like "if you take away that field goal that they had in the second quarter, we would have won that game."
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Well Ohio just turned a close game into a rout.
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F Rutgers and F Ohio. This game is not going to end on time.
no f'ing.chance.
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A beautiful night here at the New Brickhouse
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F Rutgers and F Ohio. This game is not going to end on time.
no f'ing.chance.
I got to see the kickoff in Arrowhead - 8:11
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any score yet???
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nuttin yet
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Brother, you just made my day. After not speaking of that incident for years, me and some friends were in the pool last weekend talking about college venues. When crazy stories started, I won going away with that one. Nice synchronicity with your tag.
I remember it better than I’d probably like lol but having survived it, it’s become a fond memory that always makes me smile.
Man, I miss our crazy gypsy crew days! Y’all (yous guys) are among the best folks I’ve ever met. It’s surreal but somehow, the memories we made loom larger than their number in my mind.
War damn football.
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Ruhle Sux.....j/k
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first blood by the bearcats 3-0, 45 yard FG
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Jesus fucking christ in heaven, can we please enjoy any football game on the planet earth without obsessing about Patrick Mahomes and showing Taylor Swift?
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sorry dude
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Huskers tie it with a 52 yard boot
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sorry dude
What if they attended the game and no one mentioned it? :86:
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lower ratings - swifties don't tune in
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Huskers snatch the lead 6-3
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Badgers starting QB did not make it to halftime before I think tweaking a hamstring.
Back up promptly took a giant sack and Then had a delay of game. Christ on a bike.
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lower ratings - swifties don't tune in
This game has a ceiling on any meaningful ratings. They do it just to do it.
Honestly, I look at it like the 2nd amendment. Just because you have the right to own a gun doesn't mean you have to.
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everyone wondering why the big Left O-tackle transfer that started at Bama last season wasn't a lock to start..........
False start at first and goal from inside the one yard line
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maybe the announcers are fans and hope to get an autograph
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Nice to know that the Gophers aren't the only B1G Central team struggling to move the ball.
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maybe the announcers are fans and hope to get an autograph
Maybe they can eat my ass.
And on Nebraska:
averages 8 yards per carry
Holgersen: Let's pass
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love birds
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The WR makes a great catch, they mention his family watching him play, including a brother from Alaska.
Do we have a camera on them? Nah, stupid idea.
All the cameras are on a certain box seat.
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gopher's RB having a night
only 16 carries at the end of the 3rd
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Wisconsin sucks again.
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Wisconsin sucks again.
Hate to see it.
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Wisconsin sucks again.
I don't know why, but I thought they might have a rough season. I just did not think it would manifest itself against Miami of Ohio. Good defense, but it appears they have found a way to test whether they will exceed Brian Ferentz's 2022 and 2023 offenses.
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However, this means I will be watching tonight's game on MUTE. No doubt the announcers will be FAWNING over Travis Kelce every chance they get. No doubt the cameras will hone in for lengthy shots on Travis Kelce MORE than any player or coach. And when they can't focus on Travis Kelce, they will force comparisons between Dylan Raiola and Patrick Mahomes.
🤣 was I wrong? 🤣
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They can't not.
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UAB is twelving against Alabama State. Ouch.
First twelving game of 2025.
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not impressed with Rhule's start to season #3
I don't think the Bearcats or the Huskers are very good
Of course the first game can be deceiving
I guess you just take the one score win and hope for improvement
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Jeez. Not only was that a terrible decision by the UC QB, it was just a bad throw too.
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Jeez. Not only was that a terrible decision by the UC QB, it was just a bad throw too.
Sometimes you try to live too mas. I respect his spirit and gumption, although if I was a not very good passing quarterback, I would not have done that.
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Random thoughts from Wisconsin game
-Another fucking quarterback injury
-New offense looks to my liking technically, but two offensive lineman were causing issues with translating that into success
-only field goal kicked looked very nice
-Back up quarterback, looked better than last year’s in a number of ways, but also somehow worse in a few ways, which I do not appreciate
-defense absolutely smooshed them, and I thought they still could’ve played a little more crisp. Definitely had a solid handful of missed 1-on-1 tackles in the backfield with the chance to sack a mobile quarterback.
I don’t enjoy coming out of an opener, pointing in a couple of big spots that need to be shored up, but if the starting QB can come back, I am at least interested in some of these things can develop.
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Wisconsin sucks again.
Hate to see it.
I don't know why, but I thought they might have a rough season. I just did not think it would manifest itself against Miami of Ohio.
Random thoughts from Wisconsin game
-Another fucking quarterback injury
Jeebis seeing all of this and thought they took a dump and a very bad one,rough crowd. Hey take a W and move on expectations be damned. At least wait until they get thru the meat of the order - Tide,Walvies,Hawks,Bucks & Ducks,they might surprise someone
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stay in yer lane Nubbz
when's the last time ya had to worry about the bucknuts getting beat by the bearcats
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stay in yer lane Nubbz
when's the last time ya had to worry about the bucknuts getting beat by the bearcats
Ye're right the last close shave vs the 'Skers was bad enough
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Hate to see it.
Nice work against (checks notes) Buffalo.
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Jesus fucking christ in heaven, can we please enjoy any football game on the planet earth without obsessing about Patrick Mahomes and showing Taylor Swift?
After announcing her engagement to Kansas City Chiefs' tight end Travis Kelce, Taylor Swift made first public appearance at the Nebraska season opener at Arrowhead Stadium.
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stay in yer lane Nubbz
when's the last time ya had to worry about the bucknuts getting beat by the bearcats
2002
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Anyone see this?
Long flight back from Tampa.
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yes, was on ESPN before Nebraska
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I'm going to refer to one of my ten cardinal rules of college football fandom: don't overreact to week 1.
The Badgers D looked good. The offense needs work, but looked better than last year's version. Check the TOP: over 39 minutes. That itself is a dramatic upgrade. Outgained the opponent 3-1. Backup quarterback stepped in and put up better numbers than the starter had been putting up. The INT on 4th and 3 from Miami's 10 stunk, but if you decide to go for it there, rather than taking the points, it's not a catastrophic time to throw a pick.
Did I like it? No. But I'm not going to bury them yet. Every Big Ten team struggled more than it "should" have last night. First games can be like that. No need to panic. Concerned about losing Edwards, though. Non-contact injuries worry me. O'Neil did a serviceable job stepping in, and I don't feel like the new offense is asking too much of the quarterbacks.
SFIrish made me jump back and forth between the Badgers and the Gophers game. Similar story over there. Gophers were clearly the better team, but looked a little out of sorts. Happens.
Nebraska struggled (against an allegedly better team), Rutgers struggled. Meh. Week 1. Let's see how week 2 goes.
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Fickell did better against Miami when he was coaching the Bearcats.
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Fickell did better against Miami when he was coaching the Bearcats.
Which has nothing to with what again?
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Just Sayin
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We are well aware of your position on him.
Nobody is born on third base in Madison. Nobody gets handed keys to a Ferrari. There is no such thing as an unlimited budget for players and coaches.
Luke Fickell a good man. Can't take that away - even if he's not the right coach for Wisconsin.
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I have no idea how anyone can be a fan of this shit. PJ "it's all about meeeeeeee!" Barnum.
https://twitter.com/GopherHole/status/1961298985370423746 (https://twitter.com/GopherHole/status/1961298985370423746)
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We are well aware of your position on him.
Nobody is born on third base in Madison Cincinnati. Nobody gets handed keys to a Ferrari. There is no such thing as an unlimited budget for players and coaches.
fify
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Winning at Cincy while in the AAC is a little different than trying to win in the B1G.
You fixed nothing.
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You'd expect him to have a better overall record, no doubt. But better results against Miami of Ohio? Kind of a red flag.
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You have no idea how the game went along, because you don't care about Wisconsin. You just want to see Luke Fickell fail because he went 6-6 as an interim coach of a badly fractured team.
Very sad.
I'll be happy about the shutout.
The offense needs a lot of work.
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I have no idea how anyone can be a fan of this shit. PJ "it's all about meeeeeeee!" Barnum.
https://twitter.com/GopherHole/status/1961298985370423746 (https://twitter.com/GopherHole/status/1961298985370423746)
[prepares to eat words...]
I'd be embarrassed to celebrate a 13-point home win over Buffalo like this.
BUT he has made that program way more relevant than it had been in a long time.
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You have no idea how the game went along, because you don't care about Wisconsin. You just want to see Luke Fickell fail because he went 6-6 as an interim coach of a badly fractured team.
Very sad.
I'll be happy about the shutout.
The offense needs a lot of work.
That time that he inherited a Ferrari, and wrapped it around a tree? Yeah that wasn't too great.
I thought he was the right guy at Cincinnati, and enjoyed watching what he did there.
I'm not sure the Wisconsin job matches his skillset. Maybe if he goes all in on Tressel-ball he might have something there.
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He inherited a Ferrari with no engine. That team was broken. Anyone could see that one coming.
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[prepares to eat words...]
I'd be embarrassed to celebrate a 13-point home win over Buffalo like this.
BUT he has made that program way more relevant than it had been in a long time.
Jerry Kill was better.
Minnie loves clowns though, like Brewskie and their current clown.
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Not worth a Game Week thread for a MAC opponent, but after seeing yesterday, I expect more sluggishness, and a whatever win
Michigan State 28, Western Michigan 10
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He inherited a Ferrari with no engine. That team was broken. Anyone could see that one coming.
He lost seven games, Tying a school record for most losses in a season, a record that was set in 1897. He did it with a roster that only lost one game the previous season, and went undefeated the following season.
The Wisconsin win was fun though. What a finish.
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Lost 1 game in 2010, to who, I wonder?
A true freshman QB was just as good as Terrelle Pryor? OSU didn't lose any other talent? OSU players were not rattled by their coach's resignation a couple months earlier?
Got it.
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Jerry Kill was better.
I don't know about that. Last time we saw Kill he was seizing up on the sidelines, quitting on his team mid season, and quitting on his marriage to keep coaching without getting his epilepsy in order.
Last night went about how we thought it was going to go. OL was a work in progress on the ground but kept the pocket clean, Lindsey played a solid game, and they didn't need a shanked punt to get into scoring position. Finishing drives has always been a Fleck offense problem, and will likely remain so.
Based on the schedule, we might not know much about this team until October 17 when Nebraska comes to town.
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Lost 1 game in 2010, to who, I wonder?
A true freshman QB was just as good as Terrelle Pryor? OSU didn't lose any other talent? OSU players were not rattled by their coach's resignation a couple months earlier?
Got it.
Who has more starz, the 2011 OSU Buckeyes, or any roster that he's going to be able to scrape together at Wisconsin?
Braxton Miller was one of the greatest running QBs of all time. Dude was straight out of a videogame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skMs8aOwBrM
Urban Meyer won his first 24 games with Braxton Miller at QB1, then won a NC with a pair of his backups.
I didn't expect Luke Fickell to do THAT, but 9-3, 8-4... maybe 7-5 if he really struggled. But 6-7?
Of course he learned a lot under Urban that did him well at Cincinnati, but it isn't working at Wisconsin. His best bet there would be to revert back to Tressel ball; punt and play defense, score when you're in the red zone. but Tressel ball Luke Fickell was the one that was HC of 2011 OSU, and that didn't go well.
He probably should have taken the WV job, where he could have still recruited the Hell out of PA and OH, while whooping up on a bunch of tomato cans in the Big 12.
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The right HC for Wisconsin is the HC in Champagne, no?
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Ralphie has been retired!
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G Tech QB might be pretty good but,.............. fumblin the game away early
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Ralphie has been retired!
He'll be delicious
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She's a cow
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She's a cow
How long has it been since you've consumed the meat of a cow, as opposed to a steer, heifer, or rocky mountain oysters?
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probably the last time I had a hamburger - Yesterday
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She's a cow
Cows are delicious
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BOULDER, Colo. -- Colorado introduced a sideline bathroom in its opening game against Georgia Tech for Deion Sanders, who was recently diagnosed with bladder cancer and needs to frequently use the restroom.
The portable privacy tent, which is being sponsored Friday by Depend undergarment, is next to the Buffaloes bench, so the Colorado coach won't have far to go.
Earlier this month, Sanders wrote on social media about relying on Depend, which makes an undergarment for people with incontinence. He wrote: "I wasn't joking! I truly DEPEND on Depend. Ain't NO SHAME in taking care of yourself. NO SHAME in getting health screenings. And there certainly ain't NO SHAME in needing added protection or using Depend to stay in the game. That's not weakness - that's WINNING."
Depend responded to him: "No shame at all! We're proud to help you stay in the game, Coach Prime."
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Cows are delicious
yes, they are
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Jesus fucking christ in heaven, can we please enjoy any football game on the planet earth without obsessing about Patrick Mahomes and showing Taylor Swift?
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Beautiful classic CU uniforms.
Not so much offense.
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It's whatever.
But then during the game they're mentioning all these people actually related to the players and no cameras on them.
Nebraska's kicker maybe - his first football game ever? Family in from Australia. Couldn't spare a camera.
I know the fringe Swifty who tunes in for 5 min is the end-all, be-all.
But maybe don't cater to that fan every time you can?
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Nebraska sucks.
Auburn sucks.
Baylor sucks.
Colorado and Deion suck.
Week 1 revelations so far.
My Vols may suck tomorrow too. Hope not.
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Dude, Wake Forest beat Kennesaw State by 1 point. They suck, too.
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Our country may come together if we can just get a weekend of Auburn-Baylor and ND-Miami every week. Everyone you love is on the Epstein list, but its better than being a fan of Auburn or Baylor
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Dude, Wake Forest beat Kennesaw State by 1 point. They suck, too.
They always suck. Always will.
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Turn out the lights, Deion
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[prepares to eat words...]
I'd be embarrassed to celebrate a 13-point home win over Buffalo like this.
BUT he has made that program way more relevant than it had been in a long time.
Actually, I think Minnesota is mostly about the same as it has been for two decades, except Minnesota seems to have caught up to Wisconsin during P.J.'s tenure, so there is some advancement, although it could be attributed to regression in Madison.
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G Tech QB might be pretty good but,.............. fumblin the game away early
And, winning late!
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Our country may come together if we can just get a weekend of Auburn-Baylor and ND-Miami every week. Everyone you love is on the Epstein list, but its better than being a fan of Auburn or Baylor
Perhaps the greatest post on cfb51.com, ever. I laughed out loud, alone in my room.
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Army lost to Tarleton
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those Texas programs have oil money
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Gonna try to make sicilian pizza. The youngest daughter has been wanting to make homemade pizza forever and this seems like the best option for not doing a ton of work and being slightly or largely inebriated by 3 pm.
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Actually, I think Minnesota is mostly about the same as it has been for two decades, except Minnesota seems to have caught up to Wisconsin during P.J.'s tenure, so there is some advancement, although it could be attributed to regression in Madison.
It's this. People don't realize how far Paul Chryst let the program fall. He and his staff did not embrace the Portal or NIL. He had a staff full of buddies, and he went a whole year without a recruiting department.
PC's last class was 2023 (LF took over late in the cycle). There are only 5 kids left from that class, and only 5 (each) left from the 2022 cand 2021 classes.
Luke Fickell inherited a shit sandwich with a culture (complacency) problem.
It's mostly all his now, so we'll see how he does, moving forward. Those PC kids who weren't bought in are gone (graduated or transferred out). Those who are bought in? They stayed.
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Gonna try to make sicilian pizza. The youngest daughter has been wanting to make homemade pizza forever and this seems like the best option for not doing a ton of work and being slightly or largely inebriated by 3 pm.
Some friends and family coming over for the 11 AM game. I'm doing breakfast tacos with choices of eggs, chorizo, potato, bacon, cheese, homemade salsa, and my sister's boyfriend is bringing over the carne guisada. We'll have mimosas, screwdrivers, bloody marys, and other assorted adult beverages.
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In recent years I switched over to YouTubeTV for my "cable" package, and earlier this week there was a scare that Fox and YTTV were in a dispute and they were going to take the Fox channels off of the service, which would of course affect the Texas-Ohio State game.
So I went digging through my FOUR boxes of extra A/V crap, and found my old OTA antenna. I hooked it up, tested it, and everything was good to go. Took me about 45 minutes to do all of that.
So, of course, within about ten minutes of finishing that, I hear the news that they've agreed to a temporary contract extension and YTTV will have the game after all.
Still, after testing the OTA antenna, it reminded me of just how much better the HD picture quality is over the air. So I decided to leave the antenna set up, and watch the game live over the air.
Plus it'll prevent any weird buffering that might happen-- my Spectrum cable connection has always had some problems, but unfortunately there are no fiber options in my neighborhood.
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yup, the over the air feed will have less lag.
you'll be on time
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Mute button is ready to go.
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I had the sound down on the Thursday night game. Announcers weren't good.
Wasn't about the Swifties, I just rarely have the sound up.
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I looked the look of the oxymoronic "American Wagyu" ribeye at Costco and they had a perfectly sized two pack. So tonight is that with wedge salad.
Tomorrow is grilled swordfish.
Monday is this: https://www.beefitswhatsfordinner.com/recipes/sweet-onion-reuben-sandwich
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In recent years I switched over to YouTubeTV for my "cable" package, and earlier this week there was a scare that Fox and YTTV were in a dispute and they were going to take the Fox channels off of the service, which would of course affect the Texas-Ohio State game.
So I went digging through my FOUR boxes of extra A/V crap, and found my old OTA antenna. I hooked it up, tested it, and everything was good to go. Took me about 45 minutes to do all of that.
So, of course, within about ten minutes of finishing that, I hear the news that they've agreed to a temporary contract extension and YTTV will have the game after all.
Still, after testing the OTA antenna, it reminded me of just how much better the HD picture quality is over the air. So I decided to leave the antenna set up, and watch the game live over the air.
Plus it'll prevent any weird buffering that might happen-- my Spectrum cable connection has always had some problems, but unfortunately there are no fiber options in my neighborhood.
Also for me Spectrum or Hulu is delayed a bit so people post reactions on Twitter before I see it "live." Antenna is the way to go
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After a week of eating northern, walleye, northern northern northern, trout, crappie, bass, walleye, im ready for a steak.
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Also for me Spectrum or Hulu is delayed a bit so people post reactions on Twitter before I see it "live." Antenna is the way to go
Being on Twitter is your first problem :96:
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Ed Zachery
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About to start my second mug of coffee. Nothing too exciting in the way of food today. Goal is to hold off drinking until LSU-Clemson kickoff tonight. Once that game gets going, and/or Brian Kelly/Dabo Swinney get their tempers going, I'll start in on Whiskey Mules with Jameson as the active ingredient.
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No food prep for us today. 60th birthday party at 3PM. Guy's a Gator so football will be on his 4 TV's.
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After a week of eating northern, walleye, northern northern northern, trout, crappie, bass, walleye, im ready for a steak.
I'd neve had walleye until I spent a few months in Minnesota. Man I love that fish. We get trout, crappie, bass, and other forms of perch down here, but no walleye. So good.
Being on Twitter is your first problem :96:
Word up, homie.
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I looked the look of the oxymoronic "American Wagyu" ribeye at Costco and they had a perfectly sized two pack. So tonight is that with wedge salad.
Tomorrow is grilled swordfish.
Monday is this: https://www.beefitswhatsfordinner.com/recipes/sweet-onion-reuben-sandwich
You can have a cow on American soil and feed it and treat it like they do those cows in Japan, no?
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I'm just cooking up a bunch of chicken tenders and eating them in various ways over the next couple of days.
Some w/ wing sauce and ranch, some chopped up in a salad, some chopped up with rice and veggies with teriyaki sauce, etc.
Easy variety.
Happy First Week, guys. This is a special game, despite efforts to screw it up. And this is a special space of the interwebs, thanks to you all.
Everyone has reason for optimism until we don't, lol. Enjoy!!!!
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Cheers to that!
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Purdue strikes quickly.
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Creamsicle v Bomb Pop Bowl in Atlanta
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One good thing about the Badgers' level of suck is that there is little shot that I'd have to listen to Gus Johnson.
I can't believe Fox does this to us.
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Tulane quickly up on NU, 7-0.
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Boilers now up 14-0.
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Already something I've never seen before - counting a fair catch motion from the guy who didn't catch the kick. Hmmph.
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Boilers now up 14-0.
Jeez.
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Boilers now up 14-0.
Odom's offense is really creative.
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OSU's DC is a beard. Not a man with a beard. Just a beard.
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Texas is gambling like they are a three-way TD underdog, why?
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Texas is gambling like they are a three-way TD underdog, why?
Are they? Seemed like both fourth downs were no brainers as far as going for it
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Texas is gambling like they are a three-way TD underdog, why?
Punting is a thing of the past.
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Are they? Seemed like both fourth downs were no brainers as far as going for it
20 years ago the 4th and inches from your own 35 is punted 100% of the time.
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Also for me Spectrum or Hulu is delayed a bit so people post reactions on Twitter before I see it "live." Antenna is the way to go
Years ago when the Indians were in the WS my buddy had dish and his neighbors (in a duplex) were watching OTA. We could hear the neighbors react before we saw the play.
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20 years ago the 4th and inches from your own 35 is punted 100% of the time.
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Send Klare back to Purdue
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Are they? Seemed like both fourth downs were no brainers as far as going for it
The first one was short but deep in their own territory. Second one was longer and gave tOSU good field position which they squandered.
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20 years ago the 4th and inches from your own 35 is punted 100% of the time.
20 years ago, they didn't know how to math.
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20 years ago the 4th and inches from your own 35 is punted 100% of the time.
Paul Chryst isn't coaching anymore
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You can have a cow on American soil and feed it and treat it like they do those cows in Japan, no?
Technically, no. American Wagyu is generally a crossbreed of Wagyu and Angus.
It's still good. I've bought them before and they're great-looking steaks.
But this is an American Wagyu ribeye:
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And this is a Japanese Wagyu A5 grade ribeye:
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So... Not quite the same thing.
Also... Not quite the same price :57:
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But it could be.
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But it could be.
True. Technically if you had the right cows, you could produce true Wagyu anywhere.
Though IMHO if it's labeled "American Wagyu", it'll be a crossbreed.
Again, that's not a bad thing. I wouldn't have bought it if it wasn't good.
It's just not the same as real Wagyu.
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Are you also the champagne and tex-mex police? :)
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2 drops from Smith. Yikes.
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2 drops from Smith. Yikes.
Besides the running, blocking, throwing, and catching, Buckeyes look great
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2 drops from Smith. Yikes.
And a BIG drop by the transfer TE. Sayin not getting the help a young QB needs. Every incomplete he's thrown was a drop.
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OSU is wising up. If you can run effectively....keep running. No dropped passes when you run the ball.
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Paul Chryst isn't coaching anymore
He would punt on 4th and 1 from the OPPONENT 35.
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NU looking like it's gonna get blown out.
Shouldn't have wrongfully fired Fitz.
Oops.
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Manning's release is sort of tight side-arm. Sort of reminds me of Phillip Rivers'.
Halftime adjustments will be interesting. No one is very productive.
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Matt Patricia earned his salary in the first half
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Buy him a pencil sharpener
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and a beard trimmer
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Helluva stop
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Now we need a 99 yard drive in about 12 minutes.
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Helluva stop
I was having Kerry Coombs concerns coming into this season - so far so good
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Texas getting its first points on a safety as a result of a hold in the end zone would have made for a hell of a prop bet.
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What happened? I turned off the sound to listen to WVU. What happened to the hold?
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What happened? I turned off the sound to listen to WVU. What happened to the hold?
Offsetting hands to the face
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Offsetting hands to the face
Specifically, the DL who was held first stuck hus hands on the OLs facemask.
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I was just saying this game was due for a turnover
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I was just saying this game was due for a turnover
A lot of time left but so far:
Sayin > Manning.
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Already something I've never seen before - counting a fair catch motion from the guy who didn't catch the kick. Hmmph.
The exact same thing just happened in the WVU game. Never saw it before either and I’ve seen it twice today
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A lot of time left but so far:
Sayin > Manning.
Sayin is very accurate, not sure I've seen a bad ball today. Though hardly anything down the field; Texas is pretty good at taking that away so that might just be how it is today.
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No deking rule.
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Not a great throw, but it was a great catch.
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Sayin is very accurate, not sure I've seen a bad ball today. Though hardly anything down the field; Texas is pretty good at taking that away so that might just be how it is today.
There's your deep shot.
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There's your deep shot.
Was thinking where in the hell are the other receivers
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Not a great throw, but it was a great catch.
True. If that ball would have been better placed it would have been a much easier catch in stride.
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The exact same thing just happened in the WVU game. Never saw it before either and I’ve seen it twice today
I didn't see the one in the WVU game, did it matter?
The one in the TX/tOSU game was more-or-less irrelevant because the runner got to the 30 so it was 1st and 10 at the 25 instead of 1st and 10 at the 30.
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I don't think he caught that.
I'd like to see a better angle though.
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The secondary has been out freaking standing today
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Purdue with the shutout!
Not that I'm expecting much this year, but it's always nice to see this kind of start. Especially when it's MACtion and not an FCS foe.
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Surprised Texas didn't call time there.
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I find it annoying when announcers are stupid.
"What would it mean to Ryan Day if OSU gets the shutout today?"
Uhh...
It means that OSU stopped Texas deep in scoring territory twice where Texas could have easily walked away with 6 points. But Texas didn't feel that trading FGs for TDs was going to be a winning strategy so they went for it.
Purdue likewise got a shutout because of two missed FGs, but they were 45 and 29 yards, and both effectively "garbage time". So the Purdue shutout is a feel good thing, but the difference between 31-0 and 31-6 was meaningless because the game was never in contention. For OSU Texas the game was still in contention on both drives.
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Well I guess that "shutout" talk is moot now :57:
Nice toss, Arch.
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Ooh... That one is pretty close. They could go either way.
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That is a lot closer than I initially thought.
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Ooh... That one is pretty close. They could go either way.
Sure was. Initially I didn't even know why they were looking at it but the replays showed it was a really close call.
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Concerned here. The Buckeyes have never trailed Texas with 3:00 on the clock ⏰️ but are only 2-2 in the previous four.
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Sure was. Initially I didn't even know why they were looking at it but the replays showed it was a really close call.
Although I'm gonna call it right now. If Texas comes back to win...
...there are gonna be a LOT of OSU fans complaining about the SEC officiating/replay crew :57:
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Although I'm gonna call it right now. If Texas comes back to win...
...there are gonna be a LOT of OSU fans complaining about the SEC officiating/replay crew :57:
LoL, not from me.
That was one of those where I don't think you overturn it either way.
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That's been a catch for 140 years of football
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That's been a catch for 140 years of football
I dunno, used to be any time the ball touched the ground they would call it incomplete, especially when he didn't seem to have full control of it
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Ohio State's 1,001st AP Poll appearance will be as #1!
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Is Bama/FSU literally the only decent game on in the 3:30 ET slot?
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Lol, cuse v tenn gonna go on for 4 hrs
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Lol, cuse v tenn gonna go on for 4 hrs
Was just going to mention that. Purdue / Ball State was over by 11:40. And this game still has 8+ minutes to go?
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Man, sad Arch
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Wow, Seminoles coming out strong Vs Bama! A win like this will be the global cooling Norvell's coaching seat badly needs. And FSU's stadium upgrades look great. Home crowd sounds great. Bama missing most of their first-chance tackles - tackles they rarely missed when this was Saban's defense.
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Wow, Seminoles coming out strong Vs Bama! A win like this will be the global cooling Norvell's coaching seat badly needs. And FSU's stadium upgrades look great. Home crowd sounds great. Bama missing most of their first-chance tackles - tackles they rarely missed when this was Saban's defense.
Yeah, I remember that last year I was high on the Seattle Seahawks offense because they were bringing in Ryan Grubb from UW's high-flying offense. That didn't work out, and now he's back with Kalen DeBoer... And I think Alabama fans were expecting a rekindling of that high-flying offense.
And they've put up 148 total yards in the first half... And just over half of that was on the opening drive.
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Man, sad Arch
He should be. That performance was embarrassing.
Can I get Quinn Ewers back?
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Until I see Kalen DeBoer come out for the second half, I'm not 100% sure they didn't fire him at halftime
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What is everyone's rooting interest in Bama/FSU?
I assume @OrangeAfroMan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=58) is rooting for anyone but FSU. Others?
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That is correct.
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That is correct.
I really had no doubt.
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What is everyone's rooting interest in Bama/FSU?
I assume @OrangeAfroMan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=58) is rooting for anyone but FSU. Others?
No preference. I have nothing against either of these teams. Just rooting for some good football.
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This 4th is huge
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Yes, the war chant gets as bad as Rocky Top. Somehow.
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hAHAHAHA, I think I willed a muffed punt!!!!!
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Joe Tessitore is dressed like a mobster on vacation and is yelling A LOT.
Roll Tide!
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Wow, that cheap-shot by the Bama DT might have cost them the game.
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What is everyone's rooting interest in Bama/FSU?
I assume @OrangeAfroMan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=58) is rooting for anyone but FSU. Others?
my general thought would be that it would be pretty nice if both of these teams could lose somehow. Bama fatigue is real and at this point it's just fun to laugh at Florida State.
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He should be. That performance was embarrassing.
Can I get Quinn Ewers back?
can't lie was expecting a bit more from Arch. playing on the road in Columbus is always a tough ass out and Ohio State still has some absolute studs on defense like Caleb Downs- but kinda expected more from Arch not gonna lie.
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Fsu manhandling bama in many ways.
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my general thought would be that it would be pretty nice if both of these teams could lose somehow. Bama fatigue is real and at this point it's just fun to laugh at Florida State.
Ed Zachery!!!
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the Bryce Underwood era has begun.
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Justice Haynes and Jordan Marshall is going to be a hell of a RB duo this season, methinks.
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Kalen Deboer collapsed the Bama empire in short order. 😆
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Kalen Deboer collapsed the Bama empire in short order. 😆
honestly couldn't happen to a more deserving fan base. i'm sure the Bama sites/blogs are a dumpster fire rn.
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Kalen might be fired tomorrow
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Michigan front 7 looking like they are picking up right where they left off vs OSU and Bama.
Oh and Semaj Morgan still sucks. Why is he starting at WR and returning punts? He's tiny but he's not fast at all and he's not super quick. I just don't get the Michigan staffs infatuation with this kid, he's just not that good.
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Bryce Underwood has a fucking cannon.
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Bryce that's cool and shit you want to block the shit out of a DB that looks like a toddler standing next to you- but yeah please maybe don't try that again. Thanks.
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What is everyone's rooting interest in Bama/FSU?
I assume @OrangeAfroMan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=58) is rooting for anyone but FSU. Others?
my general thought would be that it would be pretty nice if both of these teams could lose somehow. Bama fatigue is real and at this point it's just fun to laugh at Florida State.
FWIW: My rooting interest was for FSU (sorry @OrangeAfroMan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=58) it isn't really for the Seminoles, more against the Tide) because of this:
https://www.collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/appearances-total.cfm?sort=top5app&from=1936&to=2025
Ohio State is 2nd in all-time top-5 AP Appearances 15 behind Alabama. This weekend's results ensure that the deficit will be 14 on Monday and Ohio State *COULD* catch Bama this season.
Ohio State is gaining on all the top teams on that list right now because:
- Bama was #8 and will drop with their loss.
- Ohio State will obviously remain in the top-5 for the time being.
- Oklahoma was #18 so it will take a while for them to get into the top-5 even if they keep winning.
- Michigan was #14 same as OU
- Notre Dame was #6 so hopefully Texas stays ahead of them.
- Nebraska waa unranked.
- Texas was #1 and will drop.
- USC was unranked
- Florida State was unranked and will jump in but probably not top-5
- Miami was #10 same as OU and M
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Kalen might be fired tomorrow
https://twitter.com/PacFight/status/1961906726116249814
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bammer sucks
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bammer sucks
https://twitter.com/RingerSpencer/status/1961926379387138379
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nipple rings?
https://twitter.com/woodwardsports/status/1961833461842346350
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accurate...
https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1961928394523689271
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Pete Finebum is a genius....
https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1961930543005655073
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just read that DeBoer's buyout is $70 million if Bama gets rid of him after this season.
Bama ain't got A&M oil money to pay a coach $70+ million to sit at home. Kalen ain't going nowhere.
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Pete Finebum is a genius....
cashin those SEC checks
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wtf was that? Temp430, this bullshit is your fault starting that dumbass thread title.
game should be 21-0, instead it's 17-7 and could be 17-14 cause of that atrocious poor ball security on the kick return by the true freshman.
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my goodness what a touch throw there by Underwood to lead Marlin Klein.
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yeah, Bryce Underwood could've skipped his senior year of high school and started at Michigan last year as a 16-17 year old and been a better QB than anything Michigan had with Davis Warren and Alex Orji. Sounds absolutely crazy but it's 100000% true.
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a) that was not targeting.
b) targeting is a stupid fucking rule.
c) the refs are turning the game of tackle football into tackle pussy-ball with all these bullshit rules.
Barham rocked that motherfuckin' QB clean.
Bullshit call.
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that was an incompletion. why the FUCK did Moore not call a TO to review it?
Refs absolutely FUCKING Michigan in the ass right now.
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a) that was not targeting.
b) targeting is a stupid fucking rule.
c) the refs are turning the game of tackle football into tackle pussy-ball with all these bullshit rules.
Barham rocked that motherfuckin' QB clean.
Bullshit call.
All of this. Between the target, the non-catch, the offsides and the NM player that should have had a personal foul 5 seconds after the play was done.. what in the world? Purposely trying to keep it interesting? One bad call, ok.. 2.. sure.. 4 in 5 plays?
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absolutely atrocious officiating on this drive. game should be over already but now it's back within 10 points because of: refs.
Michigan's defense has been a bit lackluster but the refs have helped out tremendously.
Crazy to say this because of how bad they were last year, but the bright spot of this shit show game is probably the offense. Underwood has looked very impressive. TE Marlin Klein looks terrific. Channing Goodwin and Donovan McCulley looks like legit wide receivers. Not saying world beaters, but actual startable B1G caliber receivers- which is something they didn't even have last year.
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this team just did not come to play. at all. sloppy AF game by the entire team and an absolute horrendous shit show performance by the refs.
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LSU jobbed by RR, overturned TD.
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Todd Blackledge IS HORRIBLE!
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Todd Blackledge IS HORRIBLE!
yeah he's terrible. hate to single him out- most of these jagoffs that do the college games suck. only ones I can tolerate are Herbie and Fowler.
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“SEC Officiating” is bogging down this otherwise great LSU-Clemson matchup.
And the head SEC ref looks like when SNL cosplayed Butthead:
(https://i.imgur.com/GPBfb5C.jpeg)
Who has an LSU-y last name, btw:
(https://i.imgur.com/o1g06KS.jpeg)
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LSU TE #14 size is a problem for people.
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why the f they don't run any zone read stuff with Bryce or let him do designed runs? seriously...wtf. not even once?
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Boy, that wasn't fun, watching FSU being all happy and celebrating.
I had some boiled peanuts to center me.
Florida played a high school team with a 6,000 seat stadium. Offense was sluggish for a quarter and a half. Boring-ass play-calling in an impossible-to-lose game. Meh.
Clemson-LSU is looking like OSU-Texas was: first to 20 dies in a fiery grave.
Like 1927-style football.
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why the f they don't run any zone read stuff with Bryce or let him do designed runs? seriously...wtf. not even once?
It’s New Mexico. What if they want to keep some of it quiet for one of their toughest games of the season next week?
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Boy, that wasn't fun, watching FSU being all happy and celebrating. Au contraire. It was as enjoyable as it was surprising.
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I had some boiled peanuts to center me.
You are going all out Florida. Are you boiling peanuts yourself?
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You are going all out Florida. Are you boiling peanuts yourself?
We started boiling our own since you can't get them in CenTex. It's so easy!
But you can only do it when green peanuts are in season and around here, not many places carry them.
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Not a fan of Bama getting handled like that. Next week they tune up against UL-Monroe, and then the Badgers come to town.
I'd rather Bama be 2-0.
But it probably doesn't matter.
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Austin Peay with its first win over an FBS team since beating K-State in 1987! AP hammered Middle Tennessee State.
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I'm glad they softened up M
Austin Peay with its first win over an FBS team since beating K-State in 1987! AP hammered Middle Tennessee State.
I'm glad they softened up MTSU for Wisconsin this coming weekend.
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It’s New Mexico. What if they want to keep some of it quiet for one of their toughest games of the season next week?
yeah I don't and never have bought this line of bs. run what you run, even vs the weaker teams. you don't get better at doing something basic like running zone reads or designed QB runs without...you know...actually running it in live games.
now if you want to cool it on formations, motions, hide a couple plays away from the big game that's one thing.
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Wooo!
https://twitter.com/RicFlairNatrBoy/status/1961878017380422007 (https://twitter.com/RicFlairNatrBoy/status/1961878017380422007)
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I believe JJ McCarthy only threw for 250 or more yards in a game just 6 times in his entire career at Michigan where he started in 28 games and played in another 12.
kid had only a couple bad reads and only a couple off target throws on 31 attempts. also had a couple WR drops. throws it very accurately, tight spirals, throws absolute lasers but can also throw it with some touch. felt like the training wheels were still on and they didn't let him rip it as much as I would've liked- but he performed well in his first ever college start.
Underwood is without question the single most talented, physically gifted QB that I've seen in a Michigan uniform since Drew Henson 25 years ago.
https://twitter.com/CFBONFOX/status/1961987566133244282
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You are going all out Florida. Are you boiling peanuts yourself?
No.
But here's the thing...
I found some canned boiled peanuts at the grocery store. Figured they'd be bad or lesser-than, but 2 min in the microwave, and they're good.
Cut to a summer visiting family in GA and FL. Stop at a gas station. Want some boiled peanuts. Saw them switching them out of the cauldron they keep them in......same damn peanut can I was microwaving, just a huge one!
I was very surprised.
So yes, I have boiled my own, which took forever on a shitty stove (like 8 hours), but there's no need.
No, my AZ friends don't know what they are, never heard of them, and think they're gross and slimy.
More for me!
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So the over/under for Underwood is set at....2 Heismans? He's no Ron Powlus, but we'll see.
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So the over/under for Underwood is set at....2 Heismans? He's no Ron Powlus, but we'll see.
nah. I don't think he'll ever win the Heisman because Michigan isn't and never will be a team that throws the ball all around the lot and run up stats vs weaker opponents that you've already blown out or controlled the game- and that's what needs to happen for a QB to win the Heisman typically.
Underwood will be a #1 overall NFL draft pick so long as he stays healthy (knocks on wood), out of trouble off the field (from all accounts great kid), and continues to develop his game at Michigan. Anybody with a set of eyeballs can see this. His size, physical abilities, and talent level = off the charts.
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So the over/under for Underwood is set at....2 Heismans? He's no Ron Powlus, but we'll see.
You just have to excuse @Mdot21 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1595) for his enthusiasm. He's not gay, but he pitches a tent when he sees young men with physical attributes like Bryce Underwood in the Maize & Blue.
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Wooo!
https://twitter.com/RicFlairNatrBoy/status/1961878017380422007 (https://twitter.com/RicFlairNatrBoy/status/1961878017380422007)
How is this dude still on tv? Who does he have dirt on? He’s awful an insufferable. Was funny to see some osu fans(no here) lean on him to pile on Michigan and a week later he was talking down osu so adamantly. Was a good lesson. He’s just trash.
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You just have to excuse @Mdot21 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1595) for his enthusiasm. He's not gay, but he pitches a tent when he sees young men with physical attributes like Bryce Underwood in the Maize & Blue.
In fairness and defense to him, I might have myself as well. You have to imagine going from JJ to what we had to watch last year. then to transition to this? It felt like Christmas as a kid.
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You just have to excuse @Mdot21 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1595) for his enthusiasm. He's not gay, but he pitches a tent when he sees young men with physical attributes like Bryce Underwood in the Maize & Blue.
facts.
that absolute laser he ripped from the shadow of his own end zone on 3rd and 14 on a skinny post in between two defenders to Channing Goodwin for a 39 yard gain (longer passing play than Michigan had in 13 games last season) had me pitching tent.
kid is all of 6'4+", 230 pounds athletic as shit and has an absolute fucking cannon for an arm.
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In fairness and defense to him, I might have myself as well. You have to imagine going from JJ to what we had to watch last year. then to transition to this? It felt like Christmas as a kid.
all true. and buddy is on another level physically from where JJ was- and JJ had good size, was a good athlete, and had a really nice arm. Underwood is just different. there's level to shit.
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Like Cardale he didn't come there to play skool :)
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Oof.
https://twitter.com/clay_fink/status/1962139133305839916 (https://twitter.com/clay_fink/status/1962139133305839916)
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Ummm... WUT?
Hey Paul Fuckbaum... Who is "some people"? Idjit.
"You start to worry a little bit about your predictions when Arch has more commercials in the first quarter than he does completions. Ultimately, he was terrible. There's no getting around it and all the predictions that some people made were shatteringly wrong. They were absurd."
-Paul Finebaum
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Ummm... WUT?
Hey Paul Fuckbaum... Who is "some people"? Idjit.
"You start to worry a little bit about your predictions when Arch has more commercials in the first quarter than he does completions. Ultimately, he was terrible. There's no getting around it and all the predictions that some people made were shatteringly wrong. They were absurd."
-Paul Finebaum
lmao. this dude is a complete and utter dildo. actually looks like one too.
buddy said Arch was the best CFB player since Tebow. Not going to be- is. Now he's all like "some people". El oh El.
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Ol' Ball Coach thoughts on Arch....
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GuPBtIlWsAAjiXl?format=jpg&name=large)
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lmao. this dude is a complete and utter dildo. actually looks like one too.
Can ya mention anymore of his redeeming qualities for the congregation? What I wouldn't pay to see you,OAM and Pawl in the booth together - calling a game. Beat the hell out of watching/listening to Herbie,Dizzmond,Gus or Joel or many of those yodeling roaches.Fearless and I could be sideline reporters if we could keep a safe distance from the Beer Vendors
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Ol' Ball Coach thoughts on Arch....
Bobby Bowden had the cure for what ailed him
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Paul Finebaum looks like he smells like a musty suit from the back of your grandfather's closet.
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Paul Finebaum looks like he smells like a musty suit from the back of your grandfather's closet.
Add in some old man ass stink and you hit the mark.
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How much is UCLA paying for this?
I didn't know Jalen Berger was still in football.
(https://i.imgur.com/ANxps9u.png)
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How much is UCLA paying for this?
believe the report was he was getting paid the same thing Tennessee was paying him, which was around $2 mil I think.
And the state of California has the highest state income taxes in the land and LA is way up there in tax in terms of cities. Tennessee meanwhile is 0%, so the kid is actually making a lot less than he was if he'd have just stayed his ass put. not to mention the cost of living in LA is astronomical in comparison to living in fucking Tennessee.
he showed flashes at Tennessee but he never put it all together for a full-season. And he's in such a bad situation and on such a bad team that he'd suck even if he was Andrew Luck. Which newsflash: he's not. But this kid totally fucked himself if you ask me.
should've stayed with Hepuel in the same system, leveled up and just declared for NFL draft. now he's going to play so poorly because the team he is on sucks so hard that if he declares for the draft he'll go undrafted.
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Oops.
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How much is UCLA paying for this?
I didn't know Jalen Berger was still in football.
[img width=500 height=243.984]https://i.imgur.com/ANxps9u.png[/img]
Wow, yeah
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2020 - free year
2021 - RS (kicked off team)
2022 - not bad
2023 - injured?
2024 - injured?
Has not looked anything like his high 4* rating of offer list. I think it's his head that's the problem. Talent is/was there.
(https://i.imgur.com/GAYFXNv.png)
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35,000 folks at the UCLA game???
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Can ya mention anymore of his redeeming qualities for the congregation? What I wouldn't pay to see you,OAM and Pawl in the booth together - calling a game. Beat the hell out of watching/listening to Herbie,Dizzmond,Gus or Joel or many of those yodeling roaches.Fearless and I could be sideline reporters if we could keep a safe distance from the Beer Vendors
dude, I'm havin a few beers. like Wille Joe Namath
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35,000 folks at the UCLA game???
they have cool uniforms, but they were a really bad add to the B1G if you ask me.
USC is a blueblood helmet. I get it.
Oregon is the hot new sexy team out there and they have Nike money backing them. I get it.
Washington has a better than you realize history in football and were just a playoff squad under Kalen DeBoer. I get it. Kinda.
UCLA, I don't get at all.
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they have cool uniforms, but they were a really bad add to the B1G if you ask me.
USC is a blueblood helmet. I get it.
Oregon is the hot new sexy team out there and they have Nike money backing them. I get it.
Washington has a better than you realize history in football and were just a playoff squad under Kalen DeBoer. I get it. Kinda.
UCLA, I don't get at all.
USC wasn't going to come alone and be stranded on an island in LA. This was the bitter pill that the B1G had to swallow in order to get USC.
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I disagree. USC would have left UCLA on the island, but Big Ten Leadership was soft as F
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I disagree. USC would have left UCLA on the island, but Big Ten Leadership was soft as F
Nah they wouldn't because they didn't need to. They laid out their terms, B1G had to take it or leave it.
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I'd have left USC and their Trojan horse in the PAC
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I'd have left USC and their Trojan horse in the PAC
Sure but the greedy conferences aren't about to do that.
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still too early to call on Arch, Dante Moore is pretty meh imo, but it's going on Year 3 in this class and no one has really established themselves yet, Nico probably ruined his entire career trajectory going to a dogshit UCLA team and I feel confident saying Jackson Arnold and Malachi Nelson are total ass.
https://twitter.com/OkieFBfan/status/1961902645829849163
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well, if you're truly greedy, ya don't let the Bruins have some pie
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well, if you're truly greedy, ya don't let the Bruins have some pie
Like I said, they didn't have a choice. The proof is in the pudding. If the B1G could have forced USC to dump UCLA, it would have happened. They couldn't and it didn't.
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UCLA is one of those basketball brands. Like Indiana.
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UCLA is a great [academic] university and has a huge basketball tradition. There are worse additions.
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Like I said, they didn't have a choice. The proof is in the pudding. If the B1G could have forced USC to dump UCLA, it would have happened. They couldn't and it didn't.
you have that evidence on your side so, .............
if it's me in the league office I'm not negotiating.
I think the Trojans leave the Bruins behind
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UCLA is a great [academic] university and has a huge basketball tradition. There are worse additions.
Rutgers and Maryland
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UCLA is one of those basketball brands. Like Indiana.
basketball is for pussies. this is a football conference. we're men damnit!
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Rutgers and Maryland
I'm actually cool with Maryland. But yeah, adding Rutgers was atrocious. yuck.
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yup, hoops doesn't pay the bills
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Maryland SUCKS and brings nothing
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Maryland SUCKS and brings nothing
well there is lotta high end football talent in the DMV area. and Maryland always plays Michigan and Ohio State tougher than they have any business doing and make things interesting sometimes. i guess.
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you have that evidence on your side so, .............
if it's me in the league office I'm not negotiating.
I think the Trojans leave the Bruins behind
You're not as greedy as the B1G front office. You would have walked away from the deal. They couldn't, and didn't.
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they could have, and probably got paid under the table....
I would have go the deal with USC alone
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they could have, and probably got paid under the table....
I would have go the deal with USC alone
No, you wouldn't have. This is my point. You might have walked away from the deal entirely, but you weren't going to get USC without UCLA. It didn't happen because it was never going to happen.
You've already said you don't want USC either, which is fine. You would not have been able to negotiate any deal other than what the B1G did.
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I dunno, Fearless can be pretty persuasive.
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No, you wouldn't have. This is my point. You might have walked away from the deal entirely, but you weren't going to get USC without UCLA. It didn't happen because it was never going to happen.
You've already said you don't want USC either, which is fine. You would not have been able to negotiate any deal other than what the B1G did.
Bull shiet
I would want USC and they would have caved. What other option did they have?
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I mean what do they do???
go to the Big 12?
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I mean what do they do???
go to the Big 12?
It was them leaving that cratered the PAC. They could have stayed and the PAC would still be intact.
They weren't coming without UCLA. Just because YOU don't like that, doesn't mean the greedy B1G front office had the same issues. Clearly they didn't. They accepted UCLA because they were fine with it.
I have no idea why you're arguing this, the proof is in the pudding. What did happen, was the only thing that was going to happen.
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I disagree. but, as I stated, you have what really did happen on your side
the PAC would be intact and USC would be in a really bad spot.
The Big Ten had ALL the leverage - I would have used it
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I disagree. but, as I stated, you have what really did happen on your side
the PAC would be intact and USC would be in a really bad spot.
The Big Ten had ALL the leverage - I would have used it
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where would USC be if they would have said, No?
waiting for an invite?
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where would USC be if they would have said, No?
waiting for an invite?
They'd be standing pat in the PAC, making slightly less money than the B12.
So when the B1G invited them they said, "Sure, but I'm bringing my ugly sister too."
And the B1G said, "We're not a weirdo nutjob like Fearless and we're absolutely fine with what, so welcome aboard."
Fin.
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slightly less money???
that's yer definition
35,00 butts in the seats at the Doze bowl yesterday to watch the Bruins get beat
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basketball is for pussies. this is a football conference. we're men damnit!
Tell that to Bob Lanier, Ben Wallace,Charles Oakley,Spreewell,Draymond Green,Karl Malone,anyone of them.Be funny watching turdballs rolling out the bottom of your pink pantaloons 🥵
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slightly less money???
that's yer definition
35,00 butts in the seats at the Doze bowl yesterday to watch the Bruins get beat
The B1G front office doesn't care. Why do you? UCLA isn't somehow "ruining" the B1G's reputation, the B1G already added Maryland and Rutgers for that.
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https://twitter.com/iron_brutus/status/1961876917633560733
does the B1G own the SEC now?
B-I-G ! B-I-G! B-I-G!
or is it....
B-ONE-G! B-ONE-G! B-ONE-G!
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Be One Gee, I'd say.
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I dunno, Fearless can be pretty persuasive.
Specially when it's your turn to buy a round
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Be One Gee, I'd say.
so are the fans of the conference called Be One Gees?
(https://media.tenor.com/dAvMfFCQ5EEAAAAM/aha-ha-ha-ha-stayin-alive-robin-gibb.gif)
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https://twitter.com/CollegeFBonX/status/1961965265802940524
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The B1G front office doesn't care. Why do you? UCLA isn't somehow "ruining" the B1G's reputation, the B1G already added Maryland and Rutgers for that.
the B1G front office isn't smart. I am. Just ask me ;)
It's not about reputation, it's about dollars and sense
$$$
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I mean what do they do???
go to the Big 12?
USC could have just let it leak that they were in contact with the SEC. Boom! B1G signs them up.
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https://twitter.com/CollegeFBonX/status/1961965265802940524
Getting the "what are you doing this weekend" question all week, with the 3-day break coming up.
"Just rest, probably. Chill." was my reply.
But in my head?
"Bitch, college football season is starting!!! My ass is going to eat everything while watching every game! My eyes will bleed and my heart will stop 3 times, and I'm going to love every moment!!"
.
I'm very polite.
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Since reaching #1 last year, Alabama is 5-5.
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Nico Imagonnaleavah, left Tennessee to go to UCLA for more money. The cost? Losing 43-10 to Utah.
I hope it was worth it, lol.
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in front of 35,000 fans total
25,000 Ute fans
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I very rarely root for the Irish, but when I do,.............. they are playing evil vermin like the Canes
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in front of 35,000 fans total
25,000 Ute fans
Some were prolly deadheads thinking there was a gig but there'd be alot more than that
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Let's go convicts!!!
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That was a hell of a catch!
I Owen Wilson'd that one!
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Let's go convicts!!!
Yeah, unlike @FearlessF (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10) I'll even root for the Canes over the Irish. That isn't saying much, if ND played Taliban Military Academy I'd be conflicted.
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Yeah, unlike @FearlessF (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10) I'll even root for the Canes over the Irish. That isn't saying much, if ND played Taliban Military Academy I'd be conflicted.
I'm rooting Taliban over ND honestly.
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That was a hell of a catch!
I Owen Wilson'd that one!
(https://i.imgur.com/ZdKFJBe.jpeg)
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Is da U good? Or is ND bad?
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all tied up
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Carson Beck has ‘vape face’
(https://i.imgur.com/nsBWL3M.jpeg)
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So what will the new AP Poll look like?
- Ohio State
- Penn State
- Georgia
- LSU
- Texas
Maybe?
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So what will the new AP Poll look like?
- Ohio State
- Penn State
- Georgia
- LSU
- Texas
Maybe?
well according to ESPN FPI, Texas is still #1, Georgia is #2, Ohio State is #3, and Ole Miss #4. Lol.
ES-EE-SEE what you did there ESPN.
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Yeah, unlike @FearlessF (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10) I'll even root for the Canes over the Irish. That isn't saying much, if ND played Taliban Military Academy I'd be conflicted.
the 1984 Orange bowl left a scar
1989 OB, 1992 OB, 2002 Rose,
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well according to ESPN FPI, Texas is still #1, Georgia is #2, Ohio State is #3, and Ole Miss #4. Lol.
ES-EE-SEE what you did there ESPN.
Yeah, computer rankings aren't going to give Ohio State a lot of credit for a one score win at home in which they got outgained but I'm fairly confident that the AP will have Ohio State at #1.
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humans respect the scoreboard and reward wins as opposed to losses
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humans respect the scoreboard and reward wins as opposed to losses
amen. fuck computers. four of the GOATs, Ron Swanson, Kenny Powers, Bill Belichick, and Tom Brady all agree....
(https://i.imgur.com/Crnqnvx.gif)
https://youtu.be/ZP6lIM3OAFY?si=ubKzZfBgcZrXYLh2&t=63
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No, you wouldn't have. This is my point. You might have walked away from the deal entirely, but you weren't going to get USC without UCLA. It didn't happen because it was never going to happen.
You've already said you don't want USC either, which is fine. You would not have been able to negotiate any deal other than what the B1G did.
This is categorically false.
I thought I explained this here before, but I will do it again.
My BIL is a USC alum and Stanford alum, a very prominent attorney and a booster for both schools.
His father, also a prominent attorney, played for USC, including a Rose Bowl against Northwestern (I shook his hand many of time, and he proudly wore that Rose Bowl ring until his dying day).
My BIL went to USC for undergrad, and then Stanford for his law degree.
The truth (long story short):
USC wanted Stanford. USC figured they could get UCLA as an OOC game whenever they wanted.
Stanford said "no" when it came to joining the B1G Academic Alliance and the B1G Presidents in turn said "no" to Stanford.
UCLA was the USC backup plan and UCLA was agreeable to joining the Alliance. For some reason the wonks in Rosemont allowed UCLA to join. This is known as the last failure of former Commissioner Kevin Warren.
I hope this clears things up for everyone.
https://btaa.org/about/member-universities (https://btaa.org/about/member-universities)
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thanks
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Why would Stanford say no to the B1G knowing the PAC would dissolve and then have to join the even worse ACC ?
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This is categorically false.
I thought I explained this here before, but I will do it again.
My BIL is a USC alum and Stanford alum, a very prominent attorney and a booster for both schools.
His father, also a prominent attorney, played for USC, including a Rose Bowl against Northwestern (I shook his hand many of time, and he proudly wore that Rose Bowl ring until his dying day).
My BIL went to USC for undergrad, and then Stanford for his law degree.
The truth (long story short):
USC wanted Stanford. USC figured they could get UCLA as an OOC game whenever they wanted.
Stanford said "no" when it came to joining the B1G Academic Alliance and the B1G Presidents in turn said "no" to Stanford.
UCLA was the USC backup plan and UCLA was agreeable to joining the Alliance. For some reason the wonks in Rosemont allowed UCLA to join. This is known as the last failure of former Commissioner Kevin Warren.
I hope this clears things up for everyone.
https://btaa.org/about/member-universities (https://btaa.org/about/member-universities)
You're not disagreeing with what I've said.
USC wanted a partner in California. It's fine if they first wanted Stanford and that got blown up, but they still wanted a partner in California, and they weren't going to come without one.
I hope this clears things up for you.
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I disagree, again
they had no other better choice
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I disagree, again
they had no other better choice
What are you disagreeing with? We all know that YOU personally don't like UCLA and if you were in charge you would have walked away rather than accepted them. Heck you've also said you wouldn't have even taken USC. You're acting like an irrational fan, not a businessman.
The B1G front office made the decision, not you. And they don't agree with you. They're fine with UCLA.
The. Proof. Is. In. The. Pudding.
This is inarguable, because it happened.
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I'm happy to set things straight.
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Why would Stanford say no to the B1G knowing the PAC would dissolve and then have to join the even worse ACC ?
At the time Stanford didn't know that Oregon and Washington were also leaving.
The B1G is academically snobbish. Stanford is above that, they think/thought.
In hindsight, they are very likely kicking themselves.
I mean, they joined a conference with Louisville and Clemson.
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Stanford was one of the ones pushing back on adding anyone from the B12 in 2010.
Stanford pushed back on adding Texas by itself in 1991.
Short-sighted would be putting it mildly.
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Too smart.
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Is Stanford one of the non-Ivy schools in the Ivy ?library?/?research? system/consortium like Duke?
That would be a reason not to join the B1G.
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I'm happy to set things straight.
Wha-ha-happened was.....
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Is Stanford one of the non-Ivy schools in the Ivy ?library?/?research? system/consortium like Duke?
That would be a reason not to join the B1G.
It's a loose affiliation, but nothing binding.
Chicago left the Big 10 back in 1946 but remained as an academic member until the B1G took Nebraska. Then they bailed and affiliated with the Ivy+. Chicago is the most recent "member".
Michigan, Northwestern and Wisconsin (and Berkeley) turned down affiliation.
Member list (it's a good one)
- Brown University,
- Cornell University,
- Columbia University,
- Dartmouth College,
- Duke University,
- Harvard University,
- Johns Hopkins University,
- Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
- Princeton University,
- Stanford University,
- The University of Chicago,
- University of Pennsylvania, and
- Yale University.
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What are you disagreeing with? We all know that YOU personally don't like UCLA and if you were in charge you would have walked away rather than accepted them. Heck you've also said you wouldn't have even taken USC. You're acting like an irrational fan, not a businessman.
The B1G front office made the decision, not you. And they don't agree with you. They're fine with UCLA.
The. Proof. Is. In. The. Pudding.
This is inarguable, because it happened.
I've stated that it happened therefore I can't prove that USC would have joined the B1G w/o UCLA
My point is that if the Big would have refused to invite UCLA, that USC would have joined w/o a travel partner
As a business man, I'd take the Trojans, they bring more than they take away.
I wouldn't have allowed USC to dictate the terms. They had no other better option.
I'd have told them to follow Stanford to the ACC
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It's a loose affiliation, but nothing binding.
Chicago left the Big 10 back in 1946 but remained as an academic member until the B1G took Nebraska. Then they bailed and affiliated with the Ivy+. Chicago is the most recent "member".
Michigan, Northwestern and Wisconsin (and Berkeley) turned down affiliation.
Member list (it's a good one)
- Brown University,
- Cornell University,
- Columbia University,
- Dartmouth College,
- Duke University,
- Harvard University,
- Johns Hopkins University,
- Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
- Princeton University,
- Stanford University,
- The University of Chicago,
- University of Pennsylvania, and
- Yale University.
Okay, I think (THINK) I remember from a random video that if a school joined the B1G, they'd have to leave this group. They simply may not want to do that. But idk.
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Okay, I think (THINK) I remember from a random video that if a school joined the B1G, they'd have to leave this group. They simply may not want to do that. But idk.
I think you are right, which explains why UM, NU and UW decided to stick to the B1G and not join. They'd have to renounce the B1G entirely.
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35,000 folks at the UCLA game???
This was UCLA's home crowd 5 minutes prior to Saturday night's kick off:
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Reactions and Postgame analysis after the Bruins were thoroughly dominated on their home field 43-10 by a Utah team that outgained UCLA 493 to 220 yards - various quotes from UCLA Wire (https://uclawire.usatoday.com/):
"UCLA sleepwalked through the first half, a disheartening beginning to Year 2 of the DeShaun Foster era in Westwood."
"UCLA could not have played any worse against Utah. Bruin fans need answers, and the coaching staff needs to make dramatic adjustments. It's a crisis...DeShaun Foster could not have done a worse job getting his team ready to play."
"The worst aspect of UCLA’s game was easily their rush defense, allowing 286 rushing yards while Utah moved the ball at will."
"The Bruins were rag-dolled and tossed around by Utah. It was men against boys. UCLA's lines were destroyed. If a team has bad line play, nothing else is going to work on either side of the ball. Eight months of preparation led to a tissue-soft performance."
"It wasn’t Iamaleava’s fault that UCLA got destroyed, they got utterly outclassed, but that just emphasizes how his decision to leave Tennessee to join a rebuilding Bruin program was a foolish one...Needless to say, Tennessee fans had a field day on Twitter."
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35,000 reported attendance
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The rest were puffing on blunts and got there late
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I've stated that it happened therefore I can't prove that USC would have joined the B1G w/o UCLA
My point is that if the Big would have refused to invite UCLA, that USC would have joined w/o a travel partner
As a business man, I'd take the Trojans, they bring more than they take away.
I wouldn't have allowed USC to dictate the terms. They had no other better option.
I'd have told them to follow Stanford to the ACC
you are wrong. ole~. word. big hands.
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My USC BIL says that USC was going to come regardless. The B1G F'd this up all on its own because it "needed" to add 2 for an even number.
I'd argue that it already had an even number back in 2011.
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My USC BIL says that USC was going to come regardless. The B1G F'd this up all on its own because it "needed" to add 2 for an even number.
I'd argue that it already had an even number back in 2011.
Doubt it. Would make no sense to strand yourself on an island.
I have no idea why this is even a discussion. Whether y'all like it or not, the B1G got exactly what it wanted.
Your schools are cashing the checks, and this is the price you pay for it.
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Even with UCLA, USC is on an island. UCLA is just the anchor, and very lucky...
The XII should have stood down rather than offering schools like BYU, UCF, Houston, Cincy, etc.
They could have likely landed/merged with the PAC schools (XII already took 4 for them).
A PAC with USC, Washington, Oregon, Stanford and Cal (and Arizona, ASU, Utah, Colorado) would have fit nicely into the XII - or the PAC could have acted first and taken the best of the XII.
Terrible leadership out there doomed them. Larry Scott in particular.
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Doubt it. Would make no sense to strand yourself on an island.
I have no idea why this is even a discussion. Whether y'all like it or not, the B1G got exactly what it wanted.
Your schools are cashing the checks, and this is the price you pay for it.
Because I brought in all of the facts, and fact-based discussions are something we do here.
And yes, USC was coming regardless of anyone else. They demanded nothing from the B1G. The B1G and its terrible (at the time) commissioner F'd up. The B1G needed to add exactly nobody, let in 2, and then let in another 2 (one of which is like letting Stage 4 cancer into your lungs).
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Even with UCLA, USC is on an island. UCLA is just the anchor, and very lucky...
The XII should have stood down rather than offering schools like BYU, UCF, Houston, Cincy, etc.
They could have likely landed/merged with the PAC schools (XII already took 4 for them).
A PAC with USC, Washington, Oregon, Stanford and Cal (and Arizona, ASU, Utah, Colorado) would have fit nicely into the XII - or the PAC could have acted first and taken the best of the XII.
Terrible leadership out there doomed them. Larry Scott in particular.
PAC had worse television numbers than the B12, even without TX and OU. Nobody out there cares about college football.
After 2010, there was no chance of the PAC ever consuming the B12. The only thing that ever could have happened, is what did happen.
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Because I brought in all of the facts, and fact-based discussions are something we do here.
And yes, USC was coming regardless of anyone else. They demanded nothing from the B1G. The B1G and its terrible (at the time) commissioner F'd up. The B1G needed to add exactly nobody, let in 2, and then let in another 2 (one of which is like letting Stage 4 cancer into your lungs).
No way USC was going to stay on an island. You already stated they wanted Stanford. Then they wanted UCLA.
Do you remember UT's "Tech Problem?" That wasn't an issue with the Texas leg trying to force Tech as a partner. That was Texas wanting to bring a playmate, and A&M was already gone to the SEC. Texas wanted a partner for reasons that should be obvious. USC wanted the same thing.
Again, and for the last time-- the B1G got what it wanted. Regardless of how fans like you feel about it. The B1G wanted this. Your schools are cashing the checks. They could choose not to, they could leave, but they don't. And so you're all stuck with this.
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Even with UCLA, USC is on an island. UCLA is just the anchor, and very lucky...
The XII should have stood down rather than offering schools like BYU, UCF, Houston, Cincy, etc.
They could have likely landed/merged with the PAC schools (XII already took 4 for them).
A PAC with USC, Washington, Oregon, Stanford and Cal (and Arizona, ASU, Utah, Colorado) would have fit nicely into the XII - or the PAC could have acted first and taken the best of the XII.
Terrible leadership out there doomed them. Larry Scott in particular.
I blame the Rocky Mountains!
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They bring the Rose Bowl, which is where they should hold the Big Ten CCG every year.
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They bring the Rose Bowl, which is where they should hold the Big Ten CCG every year.
Agree 100%, that would be a lot of fun and would provide some much deserved relevance back to that historic venue.
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Half decent chance of a traditional Rose Bowl matchup too.
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No way USC was going to stay on an island. You already stated they wanted Stanford. Then they wanted UCLA.
Do you remember UT's "Tech Problem?" That wasn't an issue with the Texas leg trying to force Tech as a partner. That was Texas wanting to bring a playmate, and A&M was already gone to the SEC. Texas wanted a partner for reasons that should be obvious. USC wanted the same thing.
Again, and for the last time-- the B1G got what it wanted. Regardless of how fans like you feel about it. The B1G wanted this. Your schools are cashing the checks. They could choose not to, they could leave, but they don't. And so you're all stuck with this.
Yes, and no. USC was ready to move on when Stanford and the B1G mutually declined each other. UCLA being added was a B1G decision - not a USC demand. And it was a terrible decision.
Anyway, I look at expansion since it started in 2010, and I see Nebraska, Maryland, USC, Rutgers, UCLA, Oregon, Washington.
Only the first 3 make any sense at all. Nebraska makes the most sense.
I really hate this.
I wish sometimes that the PAC could have made that big move with UT, aTm, Tech, oSu, OU and UC. That would have been very stable and in it for the long haul.
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I wish sometimes that the PAC could have made that big move with UT, aTm, Tech, oSu, OU and UC. That would have been very stable and in it for the long haul.
A&M scuttled that one because they preferred to look East. Which is fine of course-- they should have done, and did do, what they thought was best for them.
So you'd be looking at Baylor instead.
Personally I like USC plenty but the idea of playing the rest of the PAC was no more interesting than staying in the B12.
I'd have much preferred going to the B1G but that just wasn't to be.
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A&M scuttled that one because they preferred to look East. Which is fine of course-- they should have done, and did do, what they thought was best for them.
So you'd be looking at Baylor instead.
Personally I like USC plenty but the idea of playing the rest of the PAC was no more interesting than staying in the B12.
I'd have much preferred going to the B1G but that just wasn't to be.
That was the "Tech problem" right there. B1G wanted aTm and UT only. I remember that one pretty clearly.
UT could have kept OU as an OOC game too.
The B1G probably would have only taken Maryland if that really happened, to make it an even 14.
The XII would have persisted with UNL and OU in the conference still - adding Utah and BYU.
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That was the "Tech problem" right there. B1G wanted aTm and UT only. I remember that one pretty clearly.
UT could have kept OU as an OOC game too.
The B1G probably would have only taken Maryland if that really happened, to make it an even 14.
The XII would have persisted with UNL and OU in the conference still - adding Utah and BYU.
UT wasn't going to come without a partner, for all sorts of obvious reasons. A&M didn't want PAC or B1G, they wanted to head east, and they did. That left Tech. And the B1G refused Tech. That killed any chance at a deal.
But NU was already gone to the B1G, the "Tech problem" occurred after the Huskers were already leaving, which was the worst kept secret in college football history.
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Nebraska is in the B1G because it couldn't get Texas, an at that time Nebraska looked the next best thing.
Back in 1990-91 would have been the time to grab Texas, but the Big Ten F'd up and held out for fND.
Leadership knows how to print money and that's that.
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Because I brought in all of the facts, and fact-based discussions are something we do here.
And yes, USC was coming regardless of anyone else. They demanded nothing from the B1G. The B1G and its terrible (at the time) commissioner F'd up. The B1G needed to add exactly nobody, let in 2, and then let in another 2 (one of which is like letting Stage 4 cancer into your lungs).
this is my point, the Commish F'd up big time.
the Big did not have to invite UCLA to get USC and should not have
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Agree 100%, that would be a lot of fun and would provide some much deserved relevance back to that historic venue.
And the upper half of the bowl would get butts in seats!!!! Those poor, lonely seats.
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Well it's LA. Do you really want the fans showing up? Lol
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UT wasn't going to come without a partner, for all sorts of obvious reasons. A&M didn't want PAC or B1G, they wanted to head east, and they did. That left Tech. And the B1G refused Tech. That killed any chance at a deal.
But NU was already gone to the B1G, the "Tech problem" occurred after the Huskers were already leaving, which was the worst kept secret in college football history.
A&M wanted to go to the SEC as far back as the 80's/90's when it became apparent the SWC was no longer going to be a thing. We were forced into the XII, along with Tech and Baylor, by the powers that be in the Higher Ups in the State. Namely, Ann Richards and Bob Bullock, Baylor and Tech Alums. This is well known and documented. However, A&M was perfectly content staying in the Big 12 as it originally was structured, until Neb and Co bolted first. The only mistake we made was staying the extra season, we should have left when NU/CU did and got it over with.
I often wonder if we could have bolted when Arkansas did in '91/92(?). Also remember that in that time period A&M was playing some of it's best football ever. I think we could have easily taken USCe's spot from that time and got in the "original" 12 team league.
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Who's ready for Jordon Hudson's shadow head coaching debut?
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Nebraska is in the B1G because it couldn't get Texas, an at that time Nebraska looked the next best thing.
Back in 1990-91 would have been the time to grab Texas, but the Big Ten F'd up and held out for fND.
Leadership knows how to print money and that's that.
Nebraska was already in the B1G, and Texas was another target. Texas didn't even start looking for a soft landing until it was known that Nebraska was gone.
Like I said, their defection was the worst kept secret in college football history.
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BS
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this is my point, the Commish F'd up big time.
the Big did not have to invite UCLA to get USC and should not have
They did, and they did. The proof is in the pudding. You don't like it, we know. The B1G wanted it. The End.
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Belichick looking good so far
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BS
Osborne's version is laughably full of shit.
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I often wonder if we could have bolted when Arkansas did in '91/92(?). Also remember that in that time period A&M was playing some of it's best football ever. I think we could have easily taken USCe's spot from that time and got in the "original" 12 team league.
Back in '91 the SEC wasn't really looking at A&M. They wanted Arkansas and Texas. In fact Frank Broyles was certain that Texas was moving along with them and was shocked when it didn't happen. It almost did happen.
Years later the SEC wanted A&M and A&M wanted the SEC and it worked out well for all parties.
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Dude,
EVERYBODY knows the Horns were talkin to the PAC before Nebraska got the invite from the B1G
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Dude,
EVERYBODY knows the Horns were talkin to the PAC before Nebraska got the invite from the B1G
Bullshit
Everybody knows Nebraska was defecting to the B1G, and that's what sent the rest of the conference scuttling to find a soft landing.
Absolutely the worst kept secret in college football history.
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even you knew the Horns had contacted the PAC back then :86:
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even you knew the Horns had contacted the PAC back then :86:
Absolute bulljive. Don't believe everything Tom Osborne said. He was playing politics. I mean, he's literally a politician.
ETA-- And yes of course Texas contacted the PAC, and the B1G, and the SEC. After it was known Nebraska was defecting.
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well, go ahead and argue against the rest of the message board masses
I don't need to, they're ALL on my side
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well, go ahead and argue against the rest of the message board masses
I don't need to, they're ALL on my side
Lulzno
And even if they were, the masses of message board dipshits being on your side, isn't much of a recommendation.
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Anyway, it's neither here nor there. Nebraska got exactly what it wanted, I guess. More money.
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Anyway, it's neither here nor there. Nebraska got exactly what it wanted, I guess. More money.
yes, they did.
regardless of what or anything the Horns or the Big 12 leadership did or didn't do......... UNL wasn't dumb enuff to turn down an invite from the Big
no sense in being stubborn like Stanford
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yes, they did.
regardless of what or anything the Horns or the Big 12 leadership did or didn't do......... UNL wasn't dumb enuff to turn down an invite from the Big
no sense in being stubborn like Stanford
Won't argue with you there.
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Belichick looking good so far
They scripted a nice opening drive.
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Isn't Texas the reason Nebraska left?!?! Not stirring the pot....just ladling the cauldron.
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Fun fact: The full name of UNC's stadium is Kenan Ivory Wayans Stadium
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Isn't Texas the reason Nebraska left?!?! Not stirring the pot....just ladling the cauldron.
Well I'm certain that being 1-10 against Texas in Big12 play had to bother them a bit. So yeah, in a way.
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Well I'm certain that being 1-10 against Texas in Big12 play had to bother them a bit. So yeah, in a way.
I was thinking it was Texas' insistence on getting a bigger slice of the pie. Am I off?
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I was thinking it was Texas' insistence on getting a bigger slice of the pie. Am I off?
See Fearless? This is what I'm talking about, how the internet knows nothing at all.
Would you like to tell OAM how Nebraska voted in favor of unequal revenue sharing that benefitted them, EVERY SINGLE TIME the vote came up, or should I tell him that?
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See Fearless? This is what I'm talking about, how the internet knows nothing at all.
Would you like to tell OAM how Nebraska voted in favor of unequal revenue sharing that benefitted them, EVERY SINGLE TIME the vote came up, or should I tell him that?
Did it benefit them as much as it benefitted Texas?
Willing to learn here.
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Did it benefit them as much as it benefitted Texas?
Willing to learn here.
Yes. Nebraska got the exact same additional shares of revenue that Texas did. So did A&M and OU.
It doesn't really seem like you're "willing to learn here." It seems more like you're baiting a conversation with your ignorance. Why don't you just stop supposing you know anything about it. At all. Because clearly you don't.
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Yes. Nebraska got the exact same additional shares of revenue that Texas did. So did A&M and OU.
It doesn't really seem like you're "willing to learn here." It seems more like you're baiting a conversation with your ignorance. Why don't you just stop supposing you know anything about it. At all. Because clearly you don't.
The bold is the answer to the question I asked. Thank you.
What does seeking knowledge on the situation look like if not that? Don't be a whiney bitch.
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Horny toads taking it to Belichick now.
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The bold is the answer to the question I asked. Thank you.
What does seeking knowledge on the situation look like if not that? Don't be a whiney bitch.
Bwahahaha.
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Isn't Texas the reason Nebraska left?!?! Not stirring the pot....just ladling the cauldron.
in the most basic and simple answer ....... Yes, absolutely
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Gee, I wonder why I'm uncertain on the subject. Every time it comes up, you guys go back-and-forth for 4 pages.
CRYSTAL CLEAR :57:
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a LOT of stuff was going on back then but,.......... once UNL received the invite from the Big Ten - they were gone. Period
no brainer - greener pastures
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this is my point, the Commish F'd up big time.
the Big did not have to invite UCLA to get USC and should not have
They did, and they did. The proof is in the pudding. You don't like it, we know. The B1G wanted it. The End.
Nebraska is in the B1G because it couldn't get Texas, an at that time Nebraska looked the next best thing.
Back in 1990-91 would have been the time to grab Texas, but the Big Ten F'd up and held out for fND.
Log in and had to check the time stamps thought this was from previous read posts.'Sker - Horn - Badger disorder round & round and right back to where they were 12 hrs ago. Go have some runzas,skinless chicken and a kosher dill pickle then reconvene and at least agree to throw out Michigan 😛
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Gee, I wonder why I'm uncertain on the subject. Every time it comes up, you guys go back-and-forth for 4 pages.
CRYSTAL CLEAR :57:
Tom Osborne and other Nebraska dipshits spent a lot of time spinning bullshit stories. The kind of stories that led you to believe that Nebraska left because Texas was somehow attempting to get a "bigger slice of the pie" in your own words, when in fact Nebraska (and OU and A&M) voted in favor of unequal revenue sharing every single time it came up for vote in the B12.
Bullshit lies and politics flowing from the Nebraska camp, is why you are uncertain on the subject.
Anyway, happy to set things straight.
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I was thinking it was Texas' insistence on getting a bigger slice of the pie. Am I off?
Well Duh but ya guessed right 😈
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Anyway, how bout them Froggies?
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Well Duh but ya guessed right 😈
No he didn't. He assumed wrong.
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You're not crazy Chezwick
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You're not crazy Chezwick
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Gee, I wonder why I'm uncertain on the subject. Every time it comes up, you guys go back-and-forth for 4 pages.
CRYSTAL CLEAR :57:
doesn't take 4 pages or 4 posts
Horns pissed off the Huskers.
Huskers got an invite from the B1G.
CRYSTAL CLEAR
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Well the Huskers were definitely pissed off about being 1-10, that part is 100% right.
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Wrong movie, that guy there was pissed Texas destroyed the Big 12 and made bank doing it.Shameful but expected :cheer:
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I pray that y'all aren't this dumb in real life, I really do.
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Golderned sensitive and gullible Horns
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We've had a rough weekend.
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sensative
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I pray that y'all aren't this dumb in real life, I really do.
And don't say that in front of OAM,pot stirrer,that's FFs job
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sensative
DR Tom proof reading for you??? ya miss all kinds of errors on your scorecard
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game over - Horned Frogs win
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TCU with another score. Woodshed.
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Don't think bellichik is going to find a TB while he peruses the scrap heap
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Ooof it gets even worse for the heels.
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Spencer Tilman alert! A Max Johnson sighting! He played in 2020.
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Don't think bellichik is going to find a TB while he peruses the scrap heap
He needs to fire his assistant head coach.
But... She's young and hot and apparently has a diamond encrusted platinum vagina, so I'm guessing that doesn't happen...
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He needs to fire his assistant head coach.
But... She's young and hot and apparently has a diamond encrusted platinum vagina, so I'm guessing that doesn't happen...
That does not seem like it would be very... enjoyable.
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Max Johnson looks good
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That does not seem like it would be very... enjoyable.
Don't knock it 'till you try it.
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Not at all surprised TCU is taking care of business. Up 41-14 going into the 4th. Sonny Dykes has a very well built team.
Meanwhile, UNC’s Bill Belichick hire has been a sideshow since Day 1. A media creation, or rather, media fodder. It was never about football beyond getting his son Steve and a few other loyal assistants he likes stable work.
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https://twitter.com/MikeBeauvais/status/1962703698951393700?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1962703698951393700%7Ctwgr%5E6c0cd5e21a4f4b5b84d9cd7057385e2b4e714751%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.surlyhorns.com%2Fboard%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fmikebeauvais%2Fstatus
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https://twitter.com/MikeBeauvais/status/1962703698951393700?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1962703698951393700%7Ctwgr%5E6c0cd5e21a4f4b5b84d9cd7057385e2b4e714751%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.surlyhorns.com%2Fboard%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fmikebeauvais%2Fstatus
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Honestly, the math doesn't even check out. He's ~49 years older than her, not 34.
But it's still funny.
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Nebraska was already in the B1G, and Texas was another target. Texas didn't even start looking for a soft landing until it was known that Nebraska was gone.
Like I said, their defection was the worst kept secret in college football history.
The B1G took its shot at UT. When that didn't happen, they took Nebraska. *
* According to Barry Alvarez.
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just an ex-husker spewing lies
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The B1G took its shot at UT. When that didn't happen, they took Nebraska. *
* According to Barry Alvarez.
This is not correct.
Or rather, it's certainly possible that the B1G approached Texas, but Texas wasn't looking to move, until it was found that Nebraska was leaving, which destabilized the conference.
Perhaps the B1G thought dislodging Nebraska would force Texas to move.
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OSU AD Gordon Gee (among others, including Alvarez) had a conversation with Texas AD Dodds, and it was noted that Texas could not come without aTm and TTU.
UT, aTm and TTU were inseparable, until they were separable, I guess.
I believe that UT didn't really want to move and tried to keep the conference together.
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OSU AD Gordon Gee (among others, including Alvarez) had a conversation with Texas AD Dodds, and it was noted that Texas could not come without aTm and TTU.
UT, aTm and TTU were inseparable, until they were separable, I guess.
I believe that UT didn't really want to move and tried to keep the conference together.
OK this sounds plausible. I have no doubt overtures were made to Texas. Not just by the B1G but by all the other conferences.
But just think logically about it-- if Texas had really WANTED to move in 2009/2010, then why didn't Texas actually move in 2009/2010? I mean, ANY of the B1G, PAC, or SEC would have gladly taken Texas at that time.
If, as FearlessPotStirrer is suggesting, Texas was so desperate to go to the PAC in 2009/2010 that they were willing to destabilize the conference, why then didn't they actually follow through and do it? The invitation was there. And yet Texas didn't go. Why?
The answer is of course that Texas never wanted to leave the B12 and only actively pursued other options when it was known that Nebraska was leaving and there was a fear that the conference would dissolve. At that point, DeLoss started working with the PAC to arrange a soft landing spot for not only Texas, but also 5 other schools.
But then ESPN and Fox came through with enough money and guarantees to stabilize the conference (or so we thought at the time), and Texas was able to do what it had wanted to do the entire time-- stay in the B12.
The proof is in the pudding. If Texas wanted to go to the PAC, why didn't they? The answer is, they never wanted to go to the PAC, as long as the B12 remained a viable conference.
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I believe that UT didn't really want to move and tried to keep the conference together.
I couldn't say one way or another but I'd imagine this was more in line with the facts.From what I'd read on message boards most of the faithful on the 40 acres weren't to keen on going to the SEC either. I remember Hooky(sarcastically) saying last time Texas sided with them they got dragged into a losing war or sumsuch.They being of the mindest of much more frothy as opposed to enjoying the back porch sans salty 94 of course ;D
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The proof is in the pudding.
You mention this a lot well what kind of pudding? Jell-O/Hershey's or that Victorian era English boiled/jelled fruit broth or the revolting blood sauage slop?
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You mention this a lot well what kind of pudding? Jell-O/Hershey's or that Victorian era English boiled/jelled fruit broth or the revolting blood sauage slop?
I've always preferred a French chocolate mousse. I don't think it's technically a pudding but it's close enough for me.
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I love it how only utee knows, intimately, all the happenings with other conferences and invites pertaining to conference realignment. Like the "man behind the curtain in Wizard of Oz". All hail, the mighty Marcus, Wizard Know it all of Conference Realignment, whose team never did anything, and only others are responsible for breaking apart College Football Conferences.
You can read 20 different accounts from 20 different sources who say the different things.
Did you ever stop to consider that maybe UT wanted more than the PAC was willing to give, and that the "other" schools simply didn't want to go along? I can promise you this, A&M would NEVER had went to the PAC. Not in a million years. But oh sure, SEC didn't want A&M in the early 90's, because you know Arkansas, state of 5 million or something, was just oh so much better.
Maybe A&M wasn't afraid to move and simply did the best thing for it, long before UT was ready to admit the same thing. Because in the end, we all know UT would be accepted into it's conference of choosing. I really don't even know why we are still arguing about it 10-20 years later, it was bound to happen as more and more money has entered the picture.
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I love it how only utee knows, intimately, all the happenings with other conferences and invites pertaining to conference realignment. Like the "man behind the curtain in Wizard of Oz". All hail, the mighty Marcus, Wizard Know it all of Conference Realignment, whose team never did anything, and only others are responsible for breaking apart College Football Conferences.
You can read 20 different accounts from 20 different sources who say the different things.
Did you ever stop to consider that maybe UT wanted more than the PAC was willing to give, and that the "other" schools simply didn't want to go along? I can promise you this, A&M would NEVER had went to the PAC. Not in a million years. But oh sure, SEC didn't want A&M in the early 90's, because you know Arkansas, state of 5 million or something, was just oh so much better.
Maybe A&M wasn't afraid to move and simply did the best thing for it, long before UT was ready to admit the same thing. Because in the end, we all know UT would be accepted into it's conference of choosing. I really don't even know why we are still arguing about it 10-20 years later, it was bound to happen as more and more money has entered the picture.
Of course the Ags weren't going to the PAC. Everyone was scrambling, and several schools including A&M were looking at all of their options. A&M did LOOK at the PAC, but we all know the Ags have been looking eastward for decades, and when the SEC showed interest, that was all it took. I've never once blamed A&M for doing what was in its best interest. I've only objected when people have placed the blame at Texas' feet, for Nebraska and A&M going off and doing what was in their own best interests, as if this were somehow Texas' fault. That's a bunch of bullshit and anyone espousing it can fuck right off.
As for your other sarcastic mocking bullshit, well, you can fuck right off with that, too. Respectfully of course.
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https://twitter.com/rcb05/status/1962708156523462958
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I love it how only utee knows, intimately, all the happenings with other conferences and invites pertaining to conference realignment. Like the "man behind the curtain in Wizard of Oz". All hail, the mighty Marcus, Wizard Know it all of Conference Realignment, whose team never did anything, and only others are responsible for breaking apart College Football Conferences.
I've only objected when people have placed the blame at Texas' feet, for Nebraska and A&M going off and doing what was in their own best interests, as if this were somehow Texas' fault. That's a bunch of bullshit and anyone espousing it can fuck right off.
As for your other sarcastic mocking bullshit, well, you can fuck right off with that, too. Respectfully of course.
Se-e-e there it is again SEC Froth,in the old days this could have been settled on the Back Porch over some cold Lager Beer and "Deep in the Heart of Texas" serenading in the background - no need to shoot anyone's dog
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There's been a longtime meme on horfnans/shaggybevo/surlyhorns about the Mack Brown curse. It used to apply to recruits who turned us down and suffered the consequences (real or imagined). But then surly horns started using it for our own fortunes after Texas fired Mack Brown and then sucked for a decade and a half.
Now Carolina gets to feel it...
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Gonna try to make sicilian pizza. The youngest daughter has been wanting to make homemade pizza forever and this seems like the best option for not doing a ton of work and being slightly or largely inebriated by 3 pm.
How'd it turn out? I have been away from here since Friday morning
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Now Carolina gets to feel it...
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Hey had 5 years of Bill here why the eff NE got lucky is beyond me.Massholes from a baseball town
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Of course the Ags weren't going to the PAC. Everyone was scrambling, and several schools including A&M were looking at all of their options. A&M did LOOK at the PAC, but we all know the Ags have been looking eastward for decades, and when the SEC showed interest, that was all it took. I've never once blamed A&M for doing what was in its best interest. I've only objected when people have placed the blame at Texas' feet, for Nebraska and A&M going off and doing what was in their own best interests, as if this were somehow Texas' fault. That's a bunch of bullshit and anyone espousing it can fuck right off.
As for your other sarcastic mocking bullshit, well, you can fuck right off with that, too. Respectfully of course.
Well, then fuck off with being condescending about all of it. You're not the expert you claim to be. And for the record, I don't believe I have ever said anything on this board or any other board about blaming Texas for any of it. I would much rather focus on my school, and what we need to do.
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Well, then fuck off with being condescending about all of it. You're not the expert you claim to be. And for the record, I don't believe I have ever said anything on this board or any other board about blaming Texas for any of it. I would much rather focus on my school, and what we need to do.
Well it's settled, we can both just fuck off then.
I know what I know. It's fine if you want to ignore me.
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How do you know what you think you know?
we have a thread for that
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How do you know what you think you know?
we have a thread for that
No thanks, you jackwagons have dragged more than enough shit to last a lifetime.
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Sounds like the grumpy old man thread in here.
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How'd it turn out? I have been away from here since Friday morning
Pretty good. I cranked my oven to 550, got a little more dark on top than I expected. But otherwise pretty good and the dough came out great. We made the dough at around 10 am. I let it rest until noon, then spread it out over the sheet pan, then let it rest again until the game was over.
Used this recipe: https://www.seriouseats.com/basic-square-pan-pizza-dough-recipe-sicilian-recipe
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No thanks, you jackwagons have dragged more than enough shit to last a lifetime.
obviously, my evil plan is working!
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obviously, my evil plan is working!
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Here I thought a SoC thread would be a sanctuary from conference realignment chatter.
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Here I thought a SoC thread would be a sanctuary from conference realignment chatter.
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Here I thought a SoC thread would be a sanctuary from conference realignment chatter.
This board needs more OCD...
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they have cool uniforms, but they were a really bad add to the B1G if you ask me.
USC is a blueblood helmet. I get it.
Oregon is the hot new sexy team out there and they have Nike money backing them. I get it.
Washington has a better than you realize history in football and were just a playoff squad under Kalen DeBoer. I get it. Kinda.
UCLA, I don't get at all.
USC wasn't going to come alone and be stranded on an island in LA. This was the bitter pill that the B1G had to swallow in order to get USC.
Mdot & utee started it
All I said was
I disagree. USC would have left UCLA on the island, but Big Ten Leadership was soft as F
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So what will the new AP Poll look like?
- Ohio State
- Penn State
- Georgia
- LSU
- Texas
Maybe?
I wasn't too far off. The AP voters have LSU/UGA flipped from what I have and, unsurprisingly, they over-punished Texas for a one-score road loss to the new #1.
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it's silly, win a game like that and move up 1. Lose that game on the road and drop like a rock
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it's silly, win a game like that and move up 1. Lose that game on the road and drop like a rock
This is a long-time pet-peeve of mine. If Ohio State is #1 and that is certainly a fair assumption in the context of THEIR poll since that is what THEY voted, then losing to them at their place by one score in a very competitive game shouldn't cause much of a drop.
I'd feel a little different if Ohio State had held a 2-score lead for most of the 4th quarter and Texas scored their lone TD in the closing minutes against a prevent defense but that isn't what happened. As an Ohio State fan, I only really felt comfortable twice in this game:
- When it appeared that Ohio State had intercepted Manning while leading 14-0 in the 4th quarter. At that point I thought ok, a couple first downs gets us a FG and a three-score lead and even without that, a few first downs bleeds enough clock to put them in desperation mode.
- After Manning's last pass went for 3 yards on 4th and 5.
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https://youtu.be/TpdL9EoClAc?si=XJid2SpAnM-MM5jM
LoL
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Paul Finebaum
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https://twitter.com/barryisthedon/status/1962669729132191775 (https://twitter.com/barryisthedon/status/1962669729132191775)
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scary!
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Paul Finebaum
Paul Finebaum after he can no longer propagandize the Bama dynasty:
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This board needs more OCD...
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He was talking about French chicks.
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I think another great Ben Franklin quote was something along the lines of avoiding 'foolish intrigue with low women. '
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"Sometimes the low road will show you things the high road never could" - Willie Nelson
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Ben was well versed in the Book of Proverbs
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"Sometimes the low road will show you things the high road never could" - Willie Nelson
If it involves being high, Willie is an expert.
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35,000 reported attendance
LA Times with a story earlier this week on the real attendance at the Rose Bowl these past few seasons:
https://twitter.com/latimessports/status/1963199306724237764
The reporter accessed the scan counts through a public records request. The scan count - meaning the number of individuals scanning tickets through the stadium gates. As opposed to "tickets distributed — including freebies — plus non-ticketed and credentialed individuals such as players, coaches, staff, vendors, cheerleaders, band members, performers and even media."
The difference between the two figures - scan counts and tickets distributed, is consistently over 10,000:
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we can only imagine TV ratings
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we can only imagine TV ratings
No need to imagine, you can find them right here:
https://tvmediablog.substack.com/p/2025-college-football-week-1-viewership
Utah@UCLA brought in about 1.5M on the Nielsen panel viewership, about half of Nebraska@Cincy's 3.1M
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Start a Week 2 SoC. We got game tonight.
fUCLA needs to join the PAC-12 and then maybe build itself a 30K seat stadiette on campus.
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Stanford's is about 50K, which is a good size for when Cal and ND come to town, and 30K fans in it isn't terrible.
UCLA should shoot for the same.
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Start a Week 2 SoC. We got game tonight.
fUCLA needs to join the PAC-12 and then maybe build itself a 30K seat stadiette on campus.
We need a week 2 SoC but oh my this is a weak slate:
#15 Michigan at #18 Oklahoma is the ONLY ranked-vs-ranked game of the entire weekend and most of the top-25 are favored by a LOT:
- Ohio State, no spread due to playing FCS Grambling
- Penn State -42.5 vs FI(not A)U
- LSU -36.5 vs LaTech
- Georgia, no spread due to playing FCS Austin Peay
- Miami, no spread due to playing FCS Bethune-Cookman
- Oregon -27.5 vs OkSU
- Texas -36.5 vs SJSU
- Clemson -31.5 vs Troy
- Notre Dame off
- USCe, no spread due to playing FCS SCST
- Illinois -2.5 at Dook
- ASU -6.5 vs MissSt
- Florida -17.5 vs USF
- Florida State, no spread due to playing FCS Directional aTm
- Michigan +5.5 at #18 Oklahoma
- Iowa State -3.5 vs Iowa
- SMU -2.5 vs Baylor
- Oklahoma -5.5 vs #15 Michigan
- aTm -32.5 vs Utah State
- Ole Miss -8.5 vs Kentucky
- Bama -34.5 vs UL-Monroe
- Tennessee, no spread due to playing FCS Directional Tennessee St
- Indiana -35.5 vs Kennesaw State
- TxTech -48.5 vs Kent
- Utah, no spread due to playing FCS Cal Poly
Interesting that the B1G is involved in nearly all of the decent games this weekend. M/OU and IA/ISU are the headliners but IL/Dook is decent. The only other single-digit point spreads for top-25 teams are ASU/MissSt, SMU/Baylor, and Ole Miss / Kentucky.