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Title: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: ELA on August 09, 2018, 08:30:10 PM
It's really getting down to crunch time.  Unless an agreement is reached, after August 31 no more BTN or FS1 on Comcast.
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 09, 2018, 09:50:32 PM
DirecTV Now. Done. 

Cord cut. Toodles.
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: MarqHusker on August 09, 2018, 09:51:17 PM
but the NYC TVs!!!!
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 09, 2018, 10:08:12 PM
but the NYC TVs!!!!
Time to end Rutgers. Bye. Toodles. F off. Never knew ya. Bafangu.
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on August 09, 2018, 10:43:21 PM
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Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: TyphonInc on August 09, 2018, 11:56:02 PM
It's really getting down to crunch time.  Unless an agreement is reached, after August 31 no more BTN or FS1 on Comcast.
Is there a source to see how this plays out?
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: Hawkinole on August 10, 2018, 12:47:13 AM
Very little makes me glad I have Mediacom, but this does.
I think Mediacom has had these issues in the distant past with BTN, and local TV, too. But Mediacom's Iowa imprint is so large to diss the Hawkeyes would spell mass exodus and disaster.
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on August 10, 2018, 07:16:43 AM
BTN is still on Dish. Glad I switched from DirectTV a few years back.
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: Entropy on August 10, 2018, 09:46:48 AM
I've never had issues with DirectTV outside of storms.... and it's more expensive.  But so far, knock on wood, no big issues.
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 10, 2018, 11:14:35 AM
Very little makes me glad I have Mediacom, but this does.
I think Mediacom has had these issues in the distant past with BTN, and local TV, too. But Mediacom's Iowa imprint is so large to diss the Hawkeyes would spell mass exodus and disaster.
I'm working on a deal right now with Mediacom, in Iowa, Illinois, Indiana and Wisconsin. 
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: FearlessF on August 10, 2018, 11:23:09 AM
good for Comcast

no sense losing customers that don't want to pay extra for a channel they aren't interested in

It's not about cord cutters, it's about millions of folks that don't watch college sports paying extra
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: Mdot21 on August 10, 2018, 12:18:50 PM
good for Comcast

no sense losing customers that don't want to pay extra for a channel they aren't interested in

It's not about cord cutters, it's about millions of folks that don't watch college sports paying extra
F comcast. they are literally the worst.
Comcast customer service is more hated than the IRS. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/comcast-customer-still-more-hated-irs-214241365.html
They'll make a deal right before the season starts I'd bet.
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: ELA on August 10, 2018, 12:37:04 PM
good for Comcast

no sense losing customers that don't want to pay extra for a channel they aren't interested in

It's not about cord cutters, it's about millions of folks that don't watch college sports paying extra
The problem is, it's the sports fans who are the non-cord cutters.  Everyone I know who doesn't watch sports has already ditched cable.  So they'd be wise to appease the sports viewers.
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 10, 2018, 01:19:05 PM
I cut the cord. I watch sports.


Bwar put me up to it. He watches sports.


You know us, right?


:96:
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: ELA on August 10, 2018, 01:57:17 PM
I cut the cord. I watch sports.


Bwar put me up to it. He watches sports.


You know us, right?


:96:
I didn't say everyone who watches sports hasn't cut the cord; I said everyone I know who doesn't watch sports has.
The only people, myself included, who are hanging on, are doing so for live sports.
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 10, 2018, 01:59:26 PM
Well, to be fair, the sports fans are the ones that lagged on cord-cutting, because there weren't any options until SlingTV got ESPN.

Even still, I know one friend who keeps DirecTV because he can't get NFL Sunday Ticket anywhere else. He lives out here in San Diego and wants to watch Da Bears, so it's not like we get to see those games on broadcast very often. 

And now, I'm not sure I'd call what many of us doing to be true "cord-cutting". We're switching from Cable/Satellite Live TV packages to cheaper streaming Live TV packages. We're substituting one cord for another, and overall getting a better deal. 
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: Riffraft on August 10, 2018, 03:16:29 PM
Well, to be fair, the sports fans are the ones that lagged on cord-cutting, because there weren't any options until SlingTV got ESPN.

Even still, I know one friend who keeps DirecTV because he can't get NFL Sunday Ticket anywhere else. He lives out here in San Diego and wants to watch Da Bears, so it's not like we get to see those games on broadcast very often.

And now, I'm not sure I'd call what many of us doing to be true "cord-cutting". We're switching from Cable/Satellite Live TV packages to cheaper streaming Live TV packages. We're substituting one cord for another, and overall getting a better deal.

This is me. I live in Phoenix and me being a Browns Fan and the wife being a Patriots fan (though she get more on regular channels games than I do) we are not getting our games on the local channels. We have to have Directv or go to a sports bar.
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: FearlessF on August 10, 2018, 09:04:36 PM
it's about finding the programming you want or need and then paying for it

there are MANY more Comcast customers that don't give a hoot about BTN than comcast subscribers that want or need BTN

Obviously, Comcast is losing customer base because of $$$ and is looking to cut costs on the channels that they can afford to cut
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: ELA on August 10, 2018, 09:13:47 PM
it's about finding the programming you want or need and then paying for it

there are MANY more Comcast customers that don't give a hoot about BTN than comcast subscribers that want or need BTN

Obviously, Comcast is losing customer base because of $$$ and is looking to cut costs on the channels that they can afford to cut
That's true for any given singular channel though.  HGTV just doesn't cost that much.  Now if they could pool more FOX resources together, namely FNC, they'd have some real leverage.
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: FearlessF on August 10, 2018, 09:31:32 PM
that's why the cable companies and satellite providers and huge content providers such as ESPN/ABC and Fox lobby against ala carte programming

and not just choosing what channels you want to subscribe to, but what individual shows/programs/games

having me pay to never watch HGTV and FNC while paying to watch every time slot on BTN is a known equation that they don't want to jeopardize.

They fear the unknown.  If I am just willing to pay for Husker games and not other Big Ten games or Clemson vs Alabama games then the cost could rise to the point that I never pay them and simply go to the bar
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: ELA on August 24, 2018, 09:38:42 PM
Crisis averted

https://twitter.com/MSU_Athletics/status/1033123372635439104?s=19
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: FearlessF on August 24, 2018, 10:02:30 PM
the money train keeps chugging
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: ELA on August 24, 2018, 10:05:54 PM
Both parties are doing fine.
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: Mdot21 on August 24, 2018, 10:07:28 PM
very predictable. sports are the one thing people actually watch live anymore, and aside from NFL, college football is the 2nd most watched sport. football is still far and away the most popular game in America.

No way they weren't going to get a deal done before the start of the season.
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: ELA on August 24, 2018, 10:16:04 PM
very predictable. sports are the one thing people actually watch live anymore, and aside from NFL, college football is the 2nd most watched sport. football is still far and away the most popular game in America.

No way they weren't going to get a deal done before the start of the season.
That was always my argument, that the only young people who hadnt cut the cord yet we're sports fans.
Then I read YES had the same mentality and Comcast kept them off air in NYC for almost two years.  That made me nervous
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: Mdot21 on August 24, 2018, 10:19:25 PM
That was always my argument, that the only young people who hadnt cut the cord yet we're sports fans.
Then I read YES had the same mentality and Comcast kept them off air in NYC for almost two years.  That made me nervous
football is a loooooooooot more popular and a lot more watched on live television than baseball.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/224864/football-americans-favorite-sport-watch.aspx
"American football, under attack from critics in recent years, has lost some of its popularity but is still the champion of U.S. spectator sports -- picked by 37% of U.S. adults as their favorite sport to watch. The next-most-popular sports are basketball, favored by 11%, and baseball, favored by 9%.
The 9% of Americans who mention baseball as their favorite sport to watch is the lowest percentage for the sport since Gallup first asked the question in 1937. Americans named baseball as the most popular sport in 1948 and 1960, but football claimed the top spot in 1972 (http://news.gallup.com/vault/203270/gallup-vault-football-rise-spectator-sport.aspx?g_source=link_newsv9&g_campaign=item_224864&g_medium=copy) and has been the public's favorite ever since."

Baseball is slowly dying. Thankfully. If there is one sport I absolutely hate, it's baseball. It's not even a sport imo. It's a game.
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: ELA on August 24, 2018, 10:44:23 PM
Baseball remains a regional sport and local TV ratings are just fine, when you consider a team provides 163 games of content vs. 12.

So far through 2018 Yankees games are drawing the highest average viewership of any program, sports or otherwise, cable or broadcast, in primetime, in the NYC market.  BTN carries regionally poulat mod tower games.  If Comcast can reject the highest watched live programming in the nation's largest market, on weekday primetime, I think they can hold out against 12 Saturdays worth of mediocre regionally appealing football, and mostly replays and Olympic sports.
Title: Re: Comcast vs. Big Ten
Post by: FearlessF on August 24, 2018, 10:45:45 PM
I'd guess Comcast negotiated a better rate

knocking off a quarter per month per subscriber is worth the bluffing and shuffling