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The Power Four => Big Ten => Topic started by: Big Beef Tacosupreme on July 17, 2025, 11:02:54 AM
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Hi ladies and gents, it has been awhile. Gonna be brief because I'm a busy man.
Offense:
RB: A very deep and talented RB room, with potentially two high draft picks in Singleton and Allen. They've been around forever, but Penn State also has a very talented group of underclassman that will probably shoulder more of the load this season. Should be among the best in the country. GRADE: A
Offensive Line: This will probably be Penn State's best offensive line sine 1994. Last year's offensive line was dominant, and Penn State returns 4 starters from that squad. The unit is very deep, with plenty of experience. Most publications have PSU's OLine ranked as the best in the B1G, with Athlon ranking them the 2nd best line in the country. GRADE: A
Wide Receivers: In 2024, the lions had their worst wide receiver room since the early 2000s. Famously, this unit did not record a single reception in the orange bowl. However, PSU has hit the portal hard, adding Kyron Hudson (USC), Devonte Ross (Troy), and Trebor Pena (Syracuse). All 3 of these wide receivers should be an upgrade over their 2024 counterparts. Interestingly, PFF now ranks the PSU wide receiver room as one of the best in the nation, as they earned an "honorable mention" when discussing the best 10 units in the country. This unit is still hard to grade, but if you forced me to - GRADE: B-
Tight Ends: Are you ready for a crazy stat? Penn State currently has 8 tight ends on NFL Rosters. Yes, Penn State loses Tyler Warren, but the room is deep and very, very talented. Luke Reynolds and Kahlil Dinkins got a lot of experience last year, and looked really, really good. In addition, Andrew Rappleyea returns from injury. GRADE: B
Quarterback: Drew Allar returns, but losing Beau Pribula in the playoffs was a huge blow. Beau is going to be amazing at Missouri. As for Allar, there's not much to say that hasn't been said. He has improved every year, so we are hoping that continues. Who knows, maybe having some actual wide receivers to throw to could be good for him? A lot of people have Drew as a first round pick, or perhaps even the first QB taken in the draft. I do think he will be better, but I'm not prepared to go that far. GRADE: B+
Hopefully I'll have time for the defense later.
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Howdy BBTZ.
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Welcome back! Looking forward to the Defense review.
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all I gotta say is Frames Janklin better get it done this year.
he’s got the senior QB returning for his 4th year starting, a cupcake schedule, an excellent experienced 1-2 RB duo, added the porthole WR from Syracuse, and they return a good deal on defense and added Jim Knowles one of the best DC’s in the game.
Buddy has zero excuses to not win the B1G and make it to the national title game imo. If he doesn’t do it this year he never will imo.
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BBTS, DaFuq where ya been??? and Hawk's still > than Posluszny 😎
all I gotta say is Frames Janklin better get it done this year.
as long as he doesn't follow Harbaugh's hairbrained formula
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BBTS, DaFuq where ya been??? and Hawk's still > than Posluszny 😎
as long as he doesn't follow Harbaugh's hairbrained formula
Or he could follow Ryan Day’s formula and just lose to Michigan every year. :)
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RD won by 29 before massive head wound Harbaugh hired pervs and snakes Weiss & Stallions that started slithering about.
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RD won by 29 before massive head wound Harbaugh hired pervs and snakes Weiss & Stallions that started slithering about.
with Urbz team. what his record with his own team? (O-H-AND-4!)
now back to regular scheduled programming and PSU talk not Michigan-OSU :)
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Not for long - it's happening, enjoy the phony annointing before it all swirls the drain. And what a shitty class that left right after look up their lofty accomplishments and hardware. our lady of the unfortunates could field a better NFL squad. :D
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Not for long - it's happening, enjoy the phony annointing before it all swirls the drain. And what a shitty class that left right after look up their lofty accomplishments and hardware. our lady of the unfortunates could field a better NFL squad. :D
brother they were all rookies in the nfl and few of them like JJ and Corum were hurt almost all of their rookie year. you really suggesting you can judge a draft class based on a rookie year? Wtf ??
not to mention lot of 2025 draftees like Will Johnson, Mason Graham, Colston Loveland, and Kenneth Grant were starters on those 2022 & 2023 teams and have yet to play in the NFL.
how’s Aidan Hutchinson who absolutely dominated Ohio State’s offensive line in the 2021 game in Ann Arbor doing in the nfl? Hint: REALLY f’ng good :)
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All threads become Michigan-Ohio Sate threads on this message board...
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All threads become Michigan-Ohio Sate cheaters vs non cheaters threads on this message board...
FIFY
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All threads become Michigan-Ohio Sate threads on this message board...
why do you think the rest of the B1G hates Ohio State and Michigan....lol.
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brother they were all rookies in the nfl and few of them like JJ and Corum were hurt almost all of their rookie year. you really suggesting you can judge a draft class based on a rookie year? Wtf ??
not to mention lot of 2025 draftees like Will Johnson, Mason Graham, Colston Loveland, and Kenneth Grant were starters on those 2022 & 2023 teams and have yet to play in the NFL.
how’s Aidan Hutchinson who absolutely dominated Ohio State’s offensive line in the 2021 game in Ann Arbor doing in the nfl? Hint: REALLY f’ng good
good so far you're 1 for two drafts and as you will soon see what the NCAA has confirmed that he was positioned in just right place to help pad those stats
there is a more telling/accurate metric I went to Sporting News(https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/michigan-players-drafted-2024-nfl-draft-jj-mccarthy-corum/dd8ceec9eea205f378110acd) and reviewed all of M's list of NFL Draftees following their "Legendary Season". I used Pro Football Reference for stats, these Picks were either out for the season,inactive or were buffing the bench with their backsides.The Blue Wall deluded their disciples into thinking this legendary draft would rival Lombardi's Packers,Noll's Steelers or the '85 Bears. They must be invading Dean Martin's liquor cabinet and playing with Quija Boards if they really believe that
For instance Mr LLC himself- Blake Crum,err Corum had a robust 207 yds on the season,Mike Sainristil safety for Washington shows some promise as he showed up for all 16 games.AJ Barner, TE for Seattle had 245 yds receiving,congratulations AJ you were one of the more productive ones. Trevor Keegan played in one game for the Eagles but got a ring,Congats Trevor. But for the rest Great Googly Moogly I honestly was shocked,2 of the draftees had no stats posted at all, 3 off them had o-o-o-o-o across the stat sheet - I'm serious . Search for your self but be warned - I spent more time compiling this post than those woefull wastrels saw playing time - unfacking believable.
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good so far you're 1 for two drafts and as you will soon see what the NCAA has confirmed that he was positioned in just right place to help pad those stats
there is a more telling/accurate metric I went to Sporting News(https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/michigan-players-drafted-2024-nfl-draft-jj-mccarthy-corum/dd8ceec9eea205f378110acd) and reviewed all of M's list of NFL Draftees following their "Legendary Season". I used Pro Football Reference for stats, these Picks were either out for the season,inactive or were buffing the bench with their backsides.The Blue Wall deluded their disciples into thinking this legendary draft would rival Lombardi's Packers,Noll's Steelers or the '85 Bears. They must be invading Dean Martin's liquor cabinet and playing with Quija Boards if they really believe that
For instance Mr LLC himself- Blake Crum,err Corum had a robust 207 yds on the season,Mike Sainristil safety for Washington shows some promise as he showed up for all 16 games.AJ Barner, TE for Seattle had 245 yds receiving,congratulations AJ you were one of the more productive ones. Trevor Keegan played in one game for the Eagles but got a ring,Congats Trevor. But for the rest Great Googly Moogly I honestly was shocked,2 of the draftees had no stats posted at all, 3 off them had o-o-o-o-o across the stat sheet - I'm serious . Search for your self but be warned - I spent more time compiling this post than those woefull wastrels saw playing time - unfacking believable.
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Why stop at Wendy's when the NCAA is fixing to serve you a shit sandwich???
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anyway let's take this to Michigan thread as there won't be much posting there the rest of the season and Let BBTS have his say
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the michigan thread is over there --------->>>>>>>>
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Why stop at Wendy's when the NCAA is fixing to serve you a shit sandwich???
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Nubbz I love ya but ya are kinda totally derailing this guys Penn State thread....maybe let's move all this glorious shit talk to the Michigan or Ohio State threads?
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agreed read my post GO LIONS,or 'Skers
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Back in 2001 or 2002 @Big Beef Tacosupreme (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1529) had a PSU thread at the old CFN site.
It turned into a thread to post jokes in, which is way better than this shit.
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i was going to bring that up like '03/'04 when i came aboard and you guys were here. That thread went like over 300 pages if i remember correctly back then there was nothing close like these mega diatribes
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Ok, defense:
Linebackers:
Tony Rojas has been earning praise for his athleticism and work ethic for the last two years. Unfortunately he spent 2024 dealing with nagging injuries and never realized his full potential. He missed spring ball in order to get surgery on his shoulder, and is apparently back to full strength.
Dominic DeLuca also returns. DeLuca has a brilliant football mind, but he lacks the top end athleticism typical of a Penn State linebacker. He is excellent in passing situations. He had 3 interceptions last year on only 5 starts.
Penn State also added North Carolina linebacker Amare Campbell (74 tackles in 2024)
Keon Wylie will be the chief backup, and PSU will need to see development from him and the other underclassman.
There is some concern here. Rojas has a chance to be a breakout star, but I worry about the depth of the unit overall. They should be above average defending against the pass, but they may struggle to get to the QB and against the run at times. Overall I expect them to be about 5th or 6th in the B1G. GRADE: C+
I'll have to do the rest in a bit.
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URBZ on Drew Allar,Lions WR Room
https://youtu.be/ezGKd6sVbs0?t=357
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I very much expect Penn State to win the B1G and make a deep playoff run. they are 10-2 at worst with their schedule, and I feel like they'll likely go 11-1 with a real shot to go 12-0 if they catch all the breaks- which you have to catch to go 12-0. Ohio State and Oregon are the only toss-up games on their entire schedule- and they get Oregon at home at night.
only thing that could conceivably hold them back imo is the head coach.
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Some "expert" picked PSU to play Texas in the NC game. That seems possible of course. It's also possible some team ranked about 12 preseason ends up playing.
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Allar has to actually make the jump to difference maker (or at least play like one). Otherwise you’re going into the high-leverage games hoping someone else has big enough flaws you can overwhelm them.
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At times he seemed slow to read and release,maybe guys weren't getting open,maybe he had happy feet,locks on or was hesitant. Perhaps it comes together this year if the wide outs can hold up their end,he has the tools.
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Big Ten conference champs and teams that make a run in the playoffs almost always get very good to superb QB play
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OK, I'm back:
Defensive line: PSU has two NFL picks on the on the DL On the edge, Dani Dennis-Sutton is projected by some to be a top 10 pick in the NFL draft. At tackle, Zane Durant was named by PFF as one of the nation's elite defensive tackles. At this moment, he's probably a middle round NFL draft pick.
After those two guys, things get a bit dicey. Penn State in the making at defensive end in Max Granville. Unfortunately, he was injured in practice and will miss the entire season. After him are two average to above average guys in Zuriah Fisher (RSR+) and Enai White, a Jr from Texas A&M. For DT, Penn State has an average to above average player in Alonzo Ford (RSr+), and then a bunch of unproven guys. To make things worse, Ford missed almost all of last year with an injury.
Grade: B-
Secondary: Should again be one of the best units in the B1G, led by AJ Harris, a projected first round pick. They are supported by a very deep and talented cast.
Grade: A-
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Overall Defensive Grade: B- (Talent at every position, but not elite)
Overall Offensive Grade: A+ (Best backfield in the conference, perhaps the best QB, OL, and TE rooms as well. WR room has been massively upgraded)
Intangibles: Perhaps the best offensive AND defensive coordinators in CFB. Special teams also return all major players.
Questions:
Will the questions around Drew Allar be resolved now that he has actual receivers to throw to?
Will the PSU offense be good enough to keep them in games if the defense struggles? This is the opposite of your typical PSU team.
Will the new receivers have time to gel with Allar and prevent teams from selling out against the run?
Will PSU be able to pressure the QB without Abdul Carter?
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Back in 2001 or 2002 @Big Beef Tacosupreme (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1529) had a PSU thread at the old CFN site.
It turned into a thread to post jokes in, which is way better than this shit.
Dear god, was it that long ago?
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Some "expert" picked PSU to play Texas in the NC game. That seems possible of course. It's also possible some team ranked about 12 preseason ends up playing.
Was it chat GPT? Because I asked chat GPT and that's what it said, too. :57:
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At times he seemed slow to read and release,maybe guys weren't getting open,maybe he had happy feet,locks on or was hesitant. Perhaps it comes together this year if the wide outs can hold up their end,he has the tools.
One thing is for sure, he doesn't lock in on a single receiver. If anything, he checks down too quick.
I have my suspicions that this issue in particular may have something to do with the poor WR play last season.
He is not a very good passer when he's on the move, either.
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Was it chat GPT? Because I asked chat GPT and that's what it said, too. :57:
Artificial intelligence has nothing on natural stupidity...
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Dear god, was it that long ago?
I know it was here in '03-'04 when i stumbled in and was as big as the next 4-5 biggest threads together
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Since yinzers don't like lots of threads, perhaps you could each do one of these on your respective pages.
Unit by unit: Better or worse than 2024?
QB - Drew Allar returns, but Beau Pribula transferred. Allar should be better, the two young guys under him probably won't be as good as Beau was:
SAME, maybe a bit worse
WR - Lost the top two receivers, but got a bunch of talented freshman and 3 of the best receivers in the portal:
WAY BETTER
RB - Same tailbacks as last year, but PSU gets the third string guy back from injury. Supposedly these guys have gotten a lot better under one of the best RB coaches in CFB:
BETTER
TE - Although PSU loses the Mackey Award winner in Tyler Warren, this room is deep and very talented. Khalil Dinkins made Feldman's Freak list. PSU also gets starter Andrew Rappleyea back from injury, and breakout freshman star Luke Reynolds will be back with another year of coaching under his belt. In addition, PSU gets a 5 star and two 4 stars as incoming freshman. Everyone things OSU will have the best TE room in the country, but PSU may be closer than you think:
WORSE - (But not as much as you might think)
OL - This will be Penn State's best OLine since 1994. It is deep and talented. The unit is so good that the Offensive coordinator is playing with 7 OL sets. This unit is trying to win the Joe Moore award for the best OLine in country, and they may just do it.
BETTER
Defense Later
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DT: Although Penn State returns Zane Durant (All B1G HM and projected middle rounder), it seems like they lost everybody else. However, Alonzo Ford is back from injury and was pretty good before he was lost for the 2024 season. While Ford and Durant should be one of the better pairs in the B1G, there is not much experienced depth behind them. rFR Xavier Gilliam is widely regarded as the third best player.
WORSE
DE: Losing Abdul Carter is going to get the lions a lower grade, but it isn't like Penn State is awful here. They have a potential first rounder in Dani Dennis-Sutton on one end, and Zuriah Fisher on the other. Fisher was given the "one of those guys nobody’s talking about right now" quote by Franklin, and those only come out when a player is going to be very, very good. The last person I can remember that got that praise was Tyler Warren. Behind those two guys are a handful of players that will factor heavily into the rotation. The projected breakout star, Max Granville, was injured and will miss 2025.
WORSE
LB: Finally some good news. Tony Rojas has been turning heads, including from the guys at BTN. He made Feldman's freak list, and is fully healthy after off-season surgery. I project he will be a breakout star this year. Behind him are a bunch of very talented players that should play quite a bit.
BETTER
SECONDARY: In the words of the BTN guys, this unit is the strength of the defense. I won't go into a lot of detail here, because this unit returns everyone except for Jaylen Reed (6th round). Yes, I know KJ Winston was a third rounder, but he was injured for most of 2024 so for the purpose of this exercise it doesn't matter.
BETTER
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I'm a Jim Knowles truther, but I am wondering how he does in his first year. He likes to have a lot of different stuff, so it is a bit of a difficult defense to install in one offseason.
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I'm a Jim Knowles truther, but I am wondering how he does in his first year. He likes to have a lot of different stuff, so it is a bit of a difficult defense to install in one offseason.
Jim Knowles has talked multiple times this season about how much smarter Penn State players are than Ohio State players. At OSU, he spent WEEKS on the finer points of shape sorting, for example. Knowles speculated that the IQ difference is perhaps because it is normal for Ohio youth to eat paint chips. Or perhaps it is because their corn is inferior, or because they eat their chili without beans. I suppose it isn't that surprising, considering it takes 4 people to spell Ohio.
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Allegheny hillbillies slamming 12pks of Iron City and playing with Ouija Boards.
PS and I always put beans in my chili
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Was it chat GPT? Because I asked chat GPT and that's what it said, too. :57:
I don't think it was, but maybe indirectly. I do think if PSU has a poor year, by which I mean 9-3ish, there will be some murmurings. This is a PSU kind of year. They have a good shot at 11-1 and then the CG, with an almost guaranteed CFP appearance.
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PS and I always put beans in my chili
This is some of the rare good news that we need to hear more of.
Sadly, this is probably why Ohio State never recruited you. You could have been one of the greats, too.
Nubbs>Hawk
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A couple of tidbits from camp:
Two freshman have been making a lot of waves at defensive end. Chaz Coleman has been getting rave reviews from Franklin and Knowles and will likely play quite a bit this years. Also, Yvan Kemajou is another true freshman that has been making waves and will not redshirt. In addition, a lot of the other young players have stepped up. In short, this no longer looks to be an area of concern.
Because of the depth at DE, Texas A&M transfer Enai White has been moved to DT. Speaking of DT, Xavier Gilliam is pushing for a starting role. Other than Gilliam, there is not much depth at the DT position.
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Good Luck this season,always like when others, not named - "well you know who" make inroads.PSU/MSU/UW/UNL and all the rest make for a more anxious yet exciting season. Pretty sure Oregon is one of the you know whos. I really hope this is the year the BIG hears from everyone else
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Didn't see this one coming.
https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1962985022454927643 (https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1962985022454927643)
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no reason to give Oregon more money
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lame. adidas sucks.
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UNL seems to like adidas
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UNL seems to like adidas
UNL also seems to like mediocrity. coincidence? i think not.
Michigan didn't start winning again until they ditched adidas and went back to Nike. adidas sucks.
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ummm, went back to cheating
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ummm, went back to cheating
hey like the late great Bear Bryant said, ya ain't cheating ya ain't trying. maybe Nebraska should try. and go back to nike. cause adidas sucks.
turns out Ohio State was cheating as well the whole time with a piece of shit scumbag player mole from Ohio on the inside named Joey Velasquez- and they still kept taking L's to Michigan. Kinda sad.
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not sorry but just couldn't resist
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not sorry but just couldn't resist
good. don't ever be sorry. it's a sign of weakness. don't ask permission. nor forgiveness. life is a lot more fun that way.
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agreed
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https://twitter.com/mzenitz/status/1977433760930169294 (https://twitter.com/mzenitz/status/1977433760930169294)
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https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1977435030990250099 (https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1977435030990250099)
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https://www.on3.com/college/penn-state-nittany-lions/news/penn-state-fires-head-coach-james-franklin/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking_41965851_on3&utm_term=On3%20Breaking%20News (https://www.on3.com/college/penn-state-nittany-lions/news/penn-state-fires-head-coach-james-franklin/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking_41965851_on3&utm_term=On3 Breaking News)
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What an astounding collapse from starting the season with national championship aspirations that seemed plausible achievable to firing the coach on a three-game losing streak including to probably the worst two teams in the league.
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What an astounding collapse from starting the season with national championship aspirations that seemed plausible achievable to firing the coach on a three-game losing streak including to probably the worst two teams in the league.
I’ve honestly never seen anything like it.
Lloyd Carr’s last season started out disastrous but he won 9 of his last 10 games I think and beat Urban Meyer and the Heisman Trophy winner Tim Tebow in the bowl game and kind of saved a lost season.
Frames Janklin just let it all fall apart and never recovered.
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Wow I'm sure there's an itchy trigger in Madison for sure.Who is the Lions temporary HC.
In the comment section:
"$55 million buyout ….guess my son’s tuition is going up again! #weare gonna need a loan,
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Wow I'm sure there's an itchy trigger in Madison for sure.Who is the Lions temporary HC.
In the comment section:
"$55 million buyout ….guess my son’s tuition is going up again! #weare gonna need a loan,
I picked up my .357 yesterday, but I'm not in Madison.
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He'll be moving down there soon enough
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You would think they might as well let Franklin coach against Iowa and Ohio St. But maybe they were afraid Franklin would save his job.
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Penn St remaining schedule
@Iowa
Off week
@Ohio St
Indiana
@Mich St
Neb
@Rutgers
PSU may be looking at 5-7 and no bowl.
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Do I get to get any takers that Penn State will NOT find a coach that exceeds Franklin's tenure at PSU (T10 finishes, etc. etc.)
Us fans are really good at pitchforks and having ADs firing people, not so good at improving matters.
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It's in a good recruiting state with inroads into Jersey and Maryland. The right guy could make it work maaybe a Pa guy
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Matt Ruhle being mentioned as a successor to Franklin.Pretty sure he coached at Temple
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Do I get to get any takers that Penn State will NOT find a coach that exceeds Franklin's tenure at PSU (T10 finishes, etc. etc.)
Us fans are really good at pitchforks and having ADs firing people, not so good at improving matters.
regardless they had to make the change. the guy was there 12 freaking years. he is who he is- it was never going to get better- just downhill from here. he never wins big games- think he was 2-23 vs top 10 teams. And every year he played Michigan or Ohio State he'd get his teeth kicked in- think he only beat Michigan twice and Ohio State once and most times got blown off the field in those games.
they hit their ceiling with him last year. this year was their all-in year- they used NIL to get their SR 4-year starting QB, JR RB duo, and everyone back. They spent in the portal to get some WR's, they hired the big name DC and gave him the biggest salary of any DC in the game. this was their '23 Michigan/'24 Ohio State push all the chips to the middle of table go all-in year....and he fell on face in dramatic fashion. never quite seen an implosion like this from a top 5 ranked pre-season team.
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Do I get to get any takers that Penn State will NOT find a coach that exceeds Franklin's tenure at PSU (T10 finishes, etc. etc.)
Us fans are really good at pitchforks and having ADs firing people, not so good at improving matters.
It's getting crazy. You'd think the massive buyout would be a sound insurance policy against getting fired the day after a one point loss to Northwestern, when you made the playoffs the year before. Particularly since the expanded playoff was tailor made for them to get into the playoffs in a normal James Franklin season.
You can't feel too bad for him though. May we all be so lucky as to be so bad at our jobs that they give us over $50 million just to go away.
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It's in a good recruiting state with inroads into Jersey and Maryland. The right guy could make it work maaybe a Pa guy
Odd that Knowles isn't the interim.
They are paying him like a HC, he's a Philly guy, and PSU was a dream job for him, at least to some extent.
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Urbz to State Penn?
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Trent Dilfer is free now...
https://www.on3.com/news/uab-fires-head-coach-trent-dilfer/
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Urbz to State Penn?
He's 61, so not dead yet. Definitely worth knocking on the door.
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Las Vegas now has Iowa listed as a 2.5 pt favorite. This is down from PSU being favored by 10.5 points at an earlier time
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Urbz to State Penn?
He's 61, so not dead yet. Definitely worth knocking on the door.
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Oregon State fired their coach. Funny, no one's talking about it, lol.
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I need to figure out a way to have a buyout as a state employee, lol.
The 12 years thing reminded me of Spurrier. Sure, he left to see if his offense could work in the NFL, but what he verbally cites when discussing it is how high the fan expectations got. In 2001 (his 12th year), Florida went 10-2, but didn't win the SEC. We blew out Maryland in the Orange Bowl and his QB was the Heisman runner-up (should have won, but whatever). But Gator Nation was all complaints.
Leaving after going 10-2 and basically being the 2nd-best team in the country because the fans wanted more (preseason #1) vs getting fired for losing yet another big game and 2 where you were the huge favorite.
Hmmph.
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I need to figure out a way to have a buyout as a state employee, lol.
The 12 years thing reminded me of Spurrier. Sure, he left to see if his offense could work in the NFL, but what he verbally cites when discussing it is how high the fan expectations got. In 2001 (his 12th year), Florida went 10-2, but didn't win the SEC. We blew out Maryland in the Orange Bowl and his QB was the Heisman runner-up (should have won, but whatever). But Gator Nation was all complaints.
Leaving after going 10-2 and basically being the 2nd-best team in the country because the fans wanted more (preseason #1) vs getting fired for losing yet another big game and 2 where you were the huge favorite.
Hmmph.
speaking of Spurrier- feel like he'd be a perfect coach today in the 12 team playoff. he'd have won more than 1 NC if that was around back in his day.
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I need to figure out a way to have a buyout as a state employee, lol.
The 12 years thing reminded me of Spurrier. Sure, he left to see if his offense could work in the NFL, but what he verbally cites when discussing it is how high the fan expectations got. In 2001 (his 12th year), Florida went 10-2, but didn't win the SEC. We blew out Maryland in the Orange Bowl and his QB was the Heisman runner-up (should have won, but whatever). But Gator Nation was all complaints.
Leaving after going 10-2 and basically being the 2nd-best team in the country because the fans wanted more (preseason #1) vs getting fired for losing yet another big game and 2 where you were the huge favorite.
Hmmph.
don't pretend the Fiesta bowl vs Nebraska the previous season wasn't a factor
they were favorites to win the MNC
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speaking of Spurrier- feel like he'd be a perfect coach today in the 12 team playoff. he'd have won more than 1 NC if that was around back in his day.
I'm not Cornvinced
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don't pretend the Fiesta bowl vs Nebraska the previous season wasn't a factor
they were favorites to win the MNC
don't blame Spurrier for giving the NFL a shot. it's the pinnacle of coaching. they all want to give it a shot at one point or another. few of them are actually cut out for it though- it's just a way different skill set and way different game than college.
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Hell, who blames him???
I don't blame Belichick for trying UNC
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Hell, who blames him???
I don't blame Belichick for trying UNC
I actually do blame Belichik for trying UNC. dude is 100 years old and the winningest NFL coach of all-time. he's washed up, past his expiration date and it's quite frankly beneath someone of his stature to go coach in the college ranks.
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Penn State should go all-in on Curt.
https://twitter.com/CFBRep/status/1977491263008965022
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maybe the GF wanted him to have a job
then I don't balme him
I'd do some sketchy stuff for that
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Just minutes after Penn State officially announced the firing of head football coach James Franklin, five-star running back Kemon Spell, five-star offensive tackle Layton Von Brandt and four-star defender Gabriel Jenkins decommitted from the Nittany Lions’ 2027 recruiting class.
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Hey FF Ruhle has been mentioned as a possible replacement for Franklin
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I hear Luke Fickell might be interested in a change.
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Hey FF Ruhle has been mentionedas a possible replacement for Franklin
he's got the connections to the AD and school. makes sense. just not sure that Penn State should actually want him- he seems very Franklin-ish to me. would think he'd be a last resort if they swing and miss on everyone else.
Curt has got to be the play first- if you can't get him...call Urbz. if you can't get him call Nick Saban. if you can't get him....call Lane Kiffin. if you can't get him....call like 25 other guys- and then if you can't get none of those- call Rhule.
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I hear Luke Fickell might be interested in a change.
Penn State is Sharon Moore's dream job ya know. why you think he cried after he beat them as the interim in '23?
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he's got the connections to the AD and school. makes sense. just not sure that Penn State should actually want him- he seems very Franklin-ish to me. would think he'd be a last resort if they swing and miss on everyone else.
Curt has got to be the play first- if you can't get him...call Urbz. if you can't get him call Nick Saban. if you can't get him....call Lane Kiffin. if you can't get him....call like 25 other guys- and then if you can't get none of those- call Rhule.
Realistically Kurt,Urbz or Nick ain't coming - Kiffin or Ruhle IMHO. Joey Freshwater would liven things up
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yup, Rhule's al ma mater
started hearing it a week ago
he could bolt, I hope he stays in Lincoln - not sayin he's the next Tom Osborne but, he's got a chance
being the next Joe Pa might be more attractive to him, fer sure
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How 'bout this guy Fred Flinstone's drunken surly brother
(https://i.imgur.com/B1B0OZW.png)
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maybe back to Madison, they're desperate
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That'd be unbelievable if it happened, poaching another team in the conferences coach
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https://twitter.com/BoardGeniuses/status/1977519165234720877
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That'd be unbelievable if it happened, poaching another team in the conferences coach
It is a conference, but it is now a large and loose affiliation.
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That'd be unbelievable if it happened, poaching another team in the conferences coach
That's what Florida might do with Kiffin...
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don't pretend the Fiesta bowl vs Nebraska the previous season wasn't a factor
they were favorites to win the MNC
That would be 1997, not 2001.
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oops, that's right, Steve didn't bolt for the NFL after the 97 season, waited a couple more years
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Just hours after five-star running back Kemon Spell reopened his recruitment, Nebraska made its move. The top-ranked 2027 RB out of Pennsylvania, once committed to Penn State, is now squarely on Matt Rhule’s radar.
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Just hours after five-star running back Kemon Spell reopened his recruitment, Nebraska made its move. The top-ranked 2027 RB out of Pennsylvania, once committed to Penn State, is now squarely on Matt Rhule’s radar.
don't worry, he's not going to Nebraska or Penn State.
:)
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Last seen in C-Bus :93:
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I'm curious what the PSU fans think about the firing of Franklin.
I'm on the fence. This could end up being a situation like Georgia firing Mark Richt where you go from pretty good to winning multiple NCs and everyone looks back and thinks it was a great decision. Alternatively, we can all name plenty of situations where a pretty good coach was replaced by someone who did worse.
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Joel Klatt threw out Hartline as a possible replacement for Franklin.
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I'm curious what the PSU fans think about the firing of Franklin.
I'm on the fence. This could end up being a situation like Georgia firing Mark Richt where you go from pretty good to winning multiple NCs and everyone looks back and thinks it was a great decision. Alternatively, we can all name plenty of situations where a pretty good coach was replaced by someone who did worse.
Nebraska and Wisconsin immediately spring to mind. As you mentioned, there are plenty more we could name.
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Nebraska and Wisconsin immediately spring to mind. As you mentioned, there are plenty more we could name.
Florida too.
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I still think Napier is doing pretty well considering their schedule. Firing him won't help much (probably) and could get them into a coaching merry go round (which would be OK with me).
Often the real issues are not related to the coaches.
Now, in the case of PSU it's tough not to think that is an exception.
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Whatever happens, you can be sure that Mike Elko will get a big raise out of all this coaching carousel. He played CFB in Pennsylvania (UPenn, not Penn St). Despite my best efforts to downplay it, he's got A&M in position to get 10 wins, which is a very difficult thing to do here for reasons unknown. Actually, the reasons are known, but I just don't want to admit them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yXtVJ2fxmk
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I'm curious what the PSU fans think about the firing of Franklin.
I'm on the fence. This could end up being a situation like Georgia firing Mark Richt where you go from pretty good to winning multiple NCs and everyone looks back and thinks it was a great decision. Alternatively, we can all name plenty of situations where a pretty good coach was replaced by someone who did worse.
This is exactly where I am. On the fence as well. He couldn’t win the big game, but he’s also had a very good program.
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Joel Klatt threw out Hartline as a possible replacement for Franklin.
Klatt says that because he’s a closet Michigan fan and like most, he’s tired of the Buckeyes having absurd receiving groups that are so talented it’s nearly impossible to defend them.
Hartline has been pretty set on staying in Columbus the last few years. I’d be surprised if that changed. There’s coaches that don’t have experience as a head coach and the program is too big for them to learn to swim. Hartline to me would be the exception. He’s a dream coach in my book. I wish he was anywhere besides Columbus because it’s impossible to root against him.
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Joel Klatt threw out Hartline as a possible replacement for Franklin.
breaking news: Joel Klatt is stupid.
Penn State is not a job you learn on the fly. Hartline has never done anything but be a WR coach at Ohio State. Spare me the Co-OC title, Chip Kelly ran the offense last year and Ryan Day's always been running the show and/or heavily involved with the offense.
Hartline should've left Ohio State a long time ago if he really wanted to move up in the coaching ranks and become a head coach. Realistically he should've left Ohio State and went after a HC gig in the MAC, Mountain West, C-USA or D2 in like 2021 or 2022- done that for a few years then go somewhere up a step and in a few years if he excelled he'd be able to pick his job any time a big job came open.
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https://twitter.com/FOS/status/1977849872121561271
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yup, he's gonna look
and then cash checks
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Considering I am a Hawkeye fan, I would love to see Penn State hire Jimbo Fisher. :)
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Hartline has been pretty set on staying in Columbus the last few years. I’d be surprised if that changed. There’s coaches that don’t have experience as a head coach and the program is too big for them to learn to swim. Hartline to me would be the exception. He’s a dream coach in my book. I wish he was anywhere besides Columbus because it’s impossible to root against him.
breaking news: Joel Klatt is stupid.
Hartline should've left Ohio State a long time ago if he really wanted to move up in the coaching ranks and become a head coach. Realistically he should've left Ohio State and went after a HC gig in the MAC, Mountain West, C-USA or D2 in like 2021 or 2022- done that for a few years then go somewhere up a step and in a few years if he excelled he'd be able to pick his job any time a big job came open.
Hey you two stay in your lane your only concerns should be getting Coaches Moore and Martindale inked to long term deals.Locking down M*s foreseeable future and Blue Skies
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Front Office Sports
@FOS
James Franklin is required to look for another job in coaching or broadcasting, according to a copy of his Penn State contract obtained by FOS.
If Franklin's new job pays him less than the $8M he's owed annually through 2031, Penn State only owes him the difference.
That's actually a pretty good idea instead of giving gobs of cash to those that already have that and were fired for cause
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ya, restaurant employees are required to wash their hands in the rest room
does it always happen?
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https://twitter.com/FOS/status/1977849872121561271
I was actually wondering about this. I am glad they clarified it. This is why a lot of fired coaches take one of those offensive analyst jobs for a year or 2. Do the minimal amount of work you can (or at least its less hours and stress than a head coach ) while you get your payout.
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yup, I'd bet he'd be welcome in Lincoln on Rhule's staff
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ya, restaurant employees are required to wash their hands in the rest room
does it always happen?
eat a sammich over the sink @ home ya don't have to concern yourself with such frivolities
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I'm not concerned
just smile when I see the sign the states, "Employees MUST wash their hands before returning to work"
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Don't be gross. Wash your f'ing hands. And don't be a dope - use soap.
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most folks do, some folks don't
I don't think the sign inspires many
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Hey you two stay in your lane your only concerns should be getting Coaches Moore and Martindale inked to long term deals.Locking down M*s foreseeable future and Blue Skies
His response is a typical response that I would expect from most. Not a knock, but most people assume that a HC that doesn't coach in the mac or step up position will never make it as a successful HC. IN most cases, that's absolutely spot on. To me, Hartline would be an exception. The reason I don't see it happening, he's an Ohio kid from birth. Grew up in Canton, a Buckeye and he seems pretty grounded in family and money isn't really an issue. Made just under 20mm in the pros, making 2mm a year now. The only question is he driven to be the guy in charge and the head leader or does he like being behind the scenes a little more running a successful group and grounded with his young family in Cbus. I don't know how anyone looks at what he has helped produced on the field as a receivers coach because it's been a special, absurd run for a while.
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I was yanking chains about Moore/Martindale.Hopefully Hartline's comfortable as a position/coordinator coach,so many times it just doesn't translate when moving up. Ed Warriner is a great example spent a few years At ND then came over to C-Bus under Urbz.He had taken guys from other positions LB/TE/DL and turned them into very good O-Linemen.He had that gift but was a disaster when promoted to OC job,After 2 yrs he left and went to work for Harbaugh. Then left after a year or two there.Kerry Coombs is another example outstanding DB coach - absolute debacle as DC though.I'd take either of those two back as position coaches as it was their forte'
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I was yanking chains about Moore/Martindale.Hopefully Hartline's comfortable as a position/coordinator coach,so many times it just doesn't translate when moving up. Ed Warriner is a great example spent a few years At ND then came over to C-Bus under Urbz.He had taken guys from other positions LB/TE/DL and turned them into very good O-Linemen.He had that gift but was a disaster when promoted to OC job,After 2 yrs he left and went to work for Harbaugh. Then left after a year or two there.Kerry Coombs is another example outstanding DB coach - absolute debacle as DC though.I'd take either of those two back as position coaches as it was their forte'
This!
There are plenty of examples. I think that running an offense compared to running a position group and running a program compared to running an offense are just very different jobs. They require different skill sets and being good or even great at one doesn't mean that you'll be even competent at the other.
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Dang, to me this whole thing is just getting crazier.
With the new-age and portal, you are going to have seasons where the influx of new guys just is simply not going to gel. Is Dabo Swinney done? My Cats have shit the bed repeatedly this season, with arguably one of the most talented ensembles we've had in years--preseason playoff projections abounded. More evidence that this sport is freaking ruined, never to be repaired.
On another note, it still amazes me that Ron Prince, horrible coach and known psychopath, and lazy lump of crap I met in 1989 at Dodge City Community College, had in his first year at K-State James Franklin (newly retired $100 millionaire) as OC, and Raheem Morris (HC Atlanta Falcons) as DC. All those guys, psychos or successful or whatever, made more money than I will ever see in this life...
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Dang, to me this whole thing is just getting crazier.
With the new-age and portal, you are going to have seasons where the influx of new guys just is simply not going to gel. Is Dabo Swinney done? My Cats have shit the bed repeatedly this season, with arguably one of the most talented ensembles we've had in years--preseason playoff projections abounded. More evidence that this sport is freaking ruined, never to be repaired.
I agree with all of this, especially the bolded part.
Losing at home to Northwestern was bad to be sure but I still wonder if PSU didn't overreact. Ohio State / Ryan Day will eventually have a season in which their portal haul just doesn't really work out and the team stumbles to something like 7-5 and when that happens it doesn't mean the Ryan Day forgot how to coach, it means that sometimes things don't work out they way you expect. You reload and try again next year. That said, half the fanbase will be ready to fire him and jump at the next big name.
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https://twitter.com/secnumbersguy/status/1977913590590914745
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Yep, welcome to the Coaching Carousel. We used that term 25 years ago--But it's gotten a helluva lot more expensive to can a guy you're not happy with 3 years into a 5 year deal nowdays. 50 Million Bucks!! It's like it's monopoly money or something!
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can't afford to pay current and fired coaches so much. Gotta have that money to pay players these daze
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LPO5j-Siaw
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I agree with all of this, especially the bolded part.
Losing at home to Northwestern was bad to be sure but I still wonder if PSU didn't overreact. Ohio State / Ryan Day will eventually have a season in which their portal haul just doesn't really work out and the team stumbles to something like 7-5 and when that happens it doesn't mean the Ryan Day forgot how to coach, it means that sometimes things don't work out they way you expect. You reload and try again next year. That said, half the fanbase will be ready to fire him and jump at the next big name.
Yep, and also the top programs are also getting neutered by NIL. Alabama, Georgia, OSU, etc. can't simply stockpile talent like they used to - lots of 4 and 5 star kids will be looking elsewhere after a year or two if they're not getting enough playing time - they'll happily showcase their talents at a Kentucky or a Purdue.
It's no longer as simple as "next man up" anymore - if a left tackle or shutdown corner is lost for the season, it could be "ouch time" as there isn't the talent/experience to simply replace them like they used to.
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Yeah, the QB3 NCs are a thing of the past.
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Yeah, the QB3 NCs are a thing of the past.
most teams don’t even have a 3rd string QB that is playable anymore.
with NIL/porthole if these QBs aren’t playing like right away they leave. makes it stupid hard to recruit & develop QB depth as that is the most sought after prized position and schools will overpay in NIL to get a guy.
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Whatever happens, you can be sure that Mike Elko will get a big raise out of all this coaching carousel.
You’re saying Mike Elko might leverage a Penn St inquiry into a payday at A&M? (Obviously, I don’t see Elko leaving College Station.)
Speaking of Elko and Penn St, what does everybody think of Penn St considering Georgia Tech’s Brent Key?
Key reminds me A LOT of Elko. A nuts/bolts Xs/Os guy that slowly builds a strong foundation starting with the Lines. Doesn’t chase fools gold with Diva QBs/WRs. Also doesn’t act like a media sensation, living for the next postgame rant. Which has to be pointed out because it’s so common now (Kiffin, Jimbo, Brian Kelly, Lincoln Riley).
Key played at Georgia Tech and has since spent 24 of his last 25 years coaching only in the states of Florida, Georgia, and Alabama. So, for Penn St, Key would be a true outsider consideration.
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most teams don’t even have a 3rd string QB that is playable anymore.
with NIL/porthole if these QBs aren’t playing like right away they leave. makes it stupid hard to recruit & develop QB depth as that is the most sought after prized position and schools will overpay in NIL to get a guy.
Heck, some teams don't even have a FIRST string QB that is playable...
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pretty sure the Husker's 3rd string guy is decent
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You’re saying Mike Elko might leverage a Penn St inquiry into a payday at A&M? (Obviously, I don’t see Elko leaving College Station.)
Speaking of Elko and Penn St, what does everybody think of Penn St considering Georgia Tech’s Brent Key?
Key reminds me A LOT of Elko. A nuts/bolts Xs/Os guy that slowly builds a strong foundation starting with the Lines. Doesn’t chase fools gold with Diva QBs/WRs. Also doesn’t act like a media sensation, living for the next postgame rant. Which has to be pointed out because it’s so common now (Kiffin, Jimbo, Brian Kelly, Lincoln Riley).
Key played at Georgia Tech and has since spent 24 of his last 25 years coaching only in the states of Florida, Georgia, and Alabama. So, for Penn St, Key would be a true outsider consideration.
Not singling out Penn State entirely, but basically the entire coaching carousel. I'm not sure about Elko leaving CS, but coaches leave big programs all the time. Heck, we pulled Fran (shudder) from Bama back in the day, it was at the time considered a pretty big coup. We pulled Jimbo from FSU, for a year or two it looked like it was going to work. I would almost argue once we took away any incentive to perform is exactly when Jimbo started mailing it in. But as I pointed out, Elko has ties to the NE, he played CFB at UPenn, I have no idea what he wants to do. I truly wouldn't think he'd want to go to State College, he's got a really good thing going here, and in terms of resources I'd put A&M ahead of PSU, but honestly I don't know much about PSU relative to A&M. I do know that PSU is considered one of the top programs in CFB, but could they "out money" A&M? I wouldn't think so.
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But the facts have shown that anytime someone sniffs around a coach we want to keep (Fisher/LSU) we can't lock ourselves into stupid contracts fast enough. We basically paid Jimbo a blank check, one of the most asinine contracts ever in history. Would've been better off letting him walk, than being held hostage to a contract like that. I'm told, supposedly by someone who may know, that the big boosters already had Jimbos buy-out covered, not really a big deal. I wouldn't know, except I assume the AD wouldn't have fired him without the Big Wigs signing off on it.
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Just from a town name perspective, I do think it would be pretty hilarious to leave College Station for State College.
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Just from a town name perspective, I do think it would be pretty hilarious to leave College Station for State College.
I had the same thought.
I hadn't really thought of it much, especially since PSU hasn't won the MNC in a long time, but are they considered a Blue Blood? I know they're a "top program", but I wasn't sure on the BB status. The first 7 or so seem real clear (not in any particular order) OU/Tex/Bama/ND/UGA/Mich/OSU. Seems like PSU would be in the "Top 12" type status, just outside BB, but able to get in depending on if NU/UTenn or somebody else continues to slip down the order.
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So, Franklin was reasonably successful at PSU in number of wins, actually quite successful. I have no opinion as to his firing, but I'd note fairly often programs that are reasonably successful strive to be ultra successful by firing their coach, over and over and over. Now if they bag Cignetti, I'd say they probably upgraded, but other than him?
Not so sure. They could do a Tennessee.
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My Blue Blood list has PSU outside but fairly close, about the same as UGA (who I don't include as a BB).
It's arbitrary of course.
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So, Franklin was reasonably successful at PSU in number of wins, actually quite successful. I have no opinion as to his firing, but I'd note fairly often programs that are reasonably successful strive to be ultra successful by firing their coach, over and over and over. Now if they bag Cignetti, I'd say they probably upgraded, but other than him?
Not so sure. They could do a Tennessee.
Honestly, at 11 years in, if not now when?
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There is a downside risk obviously.
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There is a downside risk obviously.
You don't say?
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I had the same thought.
I hadn't really thought of it much, especially since PSU hasn't won the MNC in a long time, but are they considered a Blue Blood? I know they're a "top program", but I wasn't sure on the BB status. The first 7 or so seem real clear (not in any particular order) OU/Tex/Bama/ND/UGA/Mich/OSU. Seems like PSU would be in the "Top 12" type status, just outside BB, but able to get in depending on if NU/UTenn or somebody else continues to slip down the order.
Yeah, I'd consider them BB-adjacent at this point, like a number of other historically strong teams.
As weird as this sounds, I think PSU gets a bump from the iconic and traditional uniform, and how that [and other things] build their historic "brand".
But I don't see them as the sort of team that's just one coach away from a potential run to dynasty. Because they're not a true blue blood.
I think of them as one of those teams that with the right coach should be making a 12-team CFP somewhere around half to two thirds of the time, but with enough in the talent level that they'd have a realistic shot to get lucky and win the whole damn thing every now and again--whereas I don't think a team like IU will ever be able to say that, with any coach.
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Would Dan Mullen be interested? Would PSU be interested in him?
He's only 53 and has strong NE ties.
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Honestly, at 11 years in, if not now when?
this.
2025 was Franklin's all-in year like Michigan 2023 and OSU 2024 and he failed spectacularly. Penn State had the softest/weakest 2025 schedule of any contender, he brought his 4th year starting SR QB back, JR star RB duo back, spent money in the porthole to get WR's, and got a big name DC and paid him $3+ mil a year- the biggest salary ever for a DC- and he failed spectacularly 5-6 games into the season.
their peak under him was last year- it wasn't going to ever get better than that. this was Year 12, it was time to move on from him. And if you look at his run from '22-24 he only beat 5 ranked teams in that entire 3 year run. That was the same amount of ranked teams that freaking Kentucky beat in that same timespan.
guy was 3-18 I think vs Michigan and Ohio State- got his teeth kicked in every time he played those teams- and he was 2-23 vs Top 10 teams. I mean....jesus christ that is awful.
they had no choice but to put a bullet in him and get rid of him imo.
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Would Dan Mullen be interested? Would PSU be interested in him?
He's only 53 and has strong NE ties.
Urbz agrees
https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1978551539846267126
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Would Dan Mullen be interested? Would PSU be interested in him?
He's only 53 and has strong NE ties.
Urbz agrees
Mullen is a good coach and the Gators pulled the plug way too soon.Fla fired him during his only loosing season there and only Urbz and Coach Superior had better winning %s in Gainseville since 1990.Before that Mullen was the 2nd winningest coach in Miss St History behind only Jackie Sherril.I'd take him if Ryan Day bolted for Sundays
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I hadn't really thought of it much, especially since PSU hasn't won the MNC in a long time, but are they considered a Blue Blood? I know they're a "top program", but I wasn't sure on the BB status. The first 7 or so seem real clear (not in any particular order) OU/Tex/Bama/ND/UGA/Mich/OSU. Seems like PSU would be in the "Top 12" type status, just outside BB, but able to get in depending on if NU/UTenn or somebody else continues to slip down the order.
My Blue Blood list has PSU outside but fairly close, about the same as UGA (who I don't include as a BB).
It's arbitrary of course.
I'm at about the same place.
Looking at things like:
Total AP Poll Appearances:
(https://i.imgur.com/YgWPyf7.png)
AP Top-10 appearances:
(https://i.imgur.com/ozOv2Mt.png)
AP Top-5 appearances:
(https://i.imgur.com/p4bKJ6z.png)
AP #1 appearances:
(https://i.imgur.com/OidpqkK.png)
Penn State is CLOSE, IMHO but they aren't quite a BB. I'd include Georgia but that is mostly due to recency bias because on the overall lists UGA and PSU are more-or-less interchangeable. IMHO, the BB's are tOSU, Bama, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Michigan, USC, and Texas. Then you have the three Florida schools who have performed at BB level since about the 1980s but don't quite have the long history that the aforementioned seven have. Then you have Nebraska which seems to be a bit more up-and-down than the seven listed above. They were phenomenal for a long stretch but they sucked for a LONG time before that and they've been pretty pedestrian for the last 25 years.
The other really close schools, IMHO, are UGA, PSU, Tennessee, LSU, Auburn, Clemson, aTm.
I think I covered all.
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I had the same thought.
I hadn't really thought of it much, especially since PSU hasn't won the MNC in a long time, but are they considered a Blue Blood? I know they're a "top program", but I wasn't sure on the BB status. The first 7 or so seem real clear (not in any particular order) OU/Tex/Bama/ND/UGA/Mich/OSU.
Um USC says hello
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Heard a rumor that two Penn State alumni put up the money to buy Franklin out. Would not have happened otherwise. PA state schools are hurting financially.
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Um USC says hello
Sue me, I forgot a team.
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Mullen is a good coach and the Gators pulled the plug way too soon.Fla fired him during his only loosing season there and only Urbz and Coach Superior had better winning %s in Gainseville since 1990.Before that Mullen was the 2nd winningest coach in Miss St History behind only Jackie Sherril.I'd take him if Ryan Day bolted for Sundays
Back in 2011 Penn State gave Dan Mullen, then coach at Miss St, serious consideration - from a Fan Blog (https://www.blackshoediaries.com/2011/11/28/2590954/dan-mullen-penn-state):
"Now that the season is over, it’s time to think about the future. First and foremost, that means a new head football coach. Over the next few weeks, we’ll be taking a closer look at the likely candidates for the job. Today, we have current Mississippi State Bulldogs head coach Dan Mullen."
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Sue me, I forgot a team.
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South Carolina isn’t a BB.
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South Carolina isn’t a BB.
Truth
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South Carolina isn’t a BB.
Truth
I agree. That is why they are "USCe" and the USC that IS a Blue Blood is just plain "USC".
I do the same thing with Ohio State. They ARE a Blue Blood so they are just plain "OSU" or "tOSU" and the other O____ States are "OrSU" for Oregon State and "OkSU" for Oklahoma State. I know some others use "OSU2" and "OSU3" for the Beavers and Cowboys but I can never remember which one is which so I find that "OrSU" and "OkSU" are more user-friendly.
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Oregon St is OSU3
Easy to remember because the 3 looks like beaver teeth
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I always did oSu for Oklahoma State because one of their official school logos looks kinda like that.
(https://brand.okstate.edu/site-files/images/brand-guide/exclusion-zone-minimum.jpg)
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Is there another PSU? Portland State?
What percentage of new coaches hired by major powers is a success longer term?
How many are fired before they find that one?
If Franklin were still at Vandy would he be a candidate for PSU?
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You were obviously kidding about USC, and I think that's the point.
By context, there's rarely a need to make a distinction, anyway. If I'm in the state of Texas and I say I'm a graduate of UT, nobody is going to think I'm talking about Tennessee. If I'm talking about Oklahoma's big rival and I mention UT, again, nobody is going to think I'm talking about Tennessee.
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Cig is off the table.
11.6 per through 2033.
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Mendoza just made him a richer man.Decent coach had good QBs and transfers
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yeah he was fired in disgrace and is an asshat, but the guy definitely has connections to Urbz and people in CFB...and he's saying Urbz wants the Penn State job but Penn State wants Matt Rhule.
https://twitter.com/BuckeyeNatty/status/1978947062751264952
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I'd take Urban in Madison.
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I'd take Urban in Madison.
any CFB program that needs a coach would be insane not to throw a truckload of money at Urbz
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If it wasn't Zak that might have some traction but who knows FOX whored up URBZ show with STOOL sports.So he might be back in the running,hope not though.Damn he's got a good gig that doesn't include baby sitting or begging players and now he's up against portal and paying players so recruiting has gotten tougher - alot tougher.Might wanna talk to St Nick 1st.I'd take the easier gig - he's made bank and can live on the interest and just enjoy watching the games with ring side seats
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https://twitter.com/_supcaroline/status/1979362520268967954