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The Power Four => Big Ten => Topic started by: OrangeAfroMan on June 19, 2025, 10:50:34 PM
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Copying the NFL's 100 years team....I want to fill in players nearly all of us agree upon and then see if we can fill it out to completion.
This is college only. COLLEGE ONLY. Going back 100 years (1925-2024) only. I'd prefer P4/5 only, but that's wonky before the late 70s.
Copy and add to it if you think a guy is consensus or close to it.
QB (10): Tebow, Frazier, Testaverde, Wuerffel, Young, P.Manning, Manziel, D.O'Brien, J.Daniels, J.Burrow
RB (12): B.Sanders, Dorsett, Allen, H.Walker, Griffin, Blanchard, D.Walker, Dayne, J.Taylor, B.Jackson, Gordon, R.Williams
WR (10): Fitzgerald, Hutson, A.Carter, Crabtree, D.Smith, Howard, B.Edwards, Cooper,
TE (5): K.Jackson, Bowers
T (7): J.Thomas, Ogden, Pace, Fralic, Gallery, McKinnie, Yary
G (7): Shields, Hannah, Steinkuhler, A.Taylor, Andrews, J.Parker, Kell
C (4): Rimington, Butkus?
DE (7): Green, White, Suggs, Bruschi, Bu.Smith, Br.Smith, Hendricks
DT (7): Suh, Donald, L.Selmon, Messner, Emtman, T.Rocker, Reid
LB (12): Nobis, D.Thomas, W.Anderson Jr, Kuechly, Kiner, Bosworth, Matakevich, J.Lynch, Bradishar, Posluszny, Willis, Fitzgerald
CB (7): C.Woodson, Buckley, Bly, D.Sanders, R.Woodson, Newman,
S (6): S.Taylor, Reed, Berry, Easley, Blades, R.Williams
K (2): Janikowski, Henery
P (2): Guy, Colquit
RET (2): Ismail, Rodgers
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HC (10): Saban, Bryant, Wilkinson, Meyer, Bowden, Paterno, Osborne, Switzer, Leahy, Snyder
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Copying the NFL's 100 years team....I want to fill in players nearly all of us agree upon and then see if we can fill it out to completion.
This is college only. COLLEGE ONLY. Going back 100 years (1925-2024) only. I'd prefer P4/5 only, but that's wonky before the late 70s.
Copy and add to it if you think a guy is consensus or close to it.
LB (12): Nobis, Thomas, Anderson Jr, Kuechly, Bosworth
P (2): Guy, Colquitt.
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HC (10): Saban, Bryant, Wilkinson, Meyer, Leahy, Rockne, Switzer, Osborne. Snyder, Hayes
My adds in a few categories. Happy to defend these
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I was thinking Bowden and Paterno for HC, along with Osborne and Switzer.
I'd want an accuracy guy at kicker, as Janikowski is the big leg guy. I feel like any of like 30 RBs make sense.
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Alex Henery - accuracy
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Paterno and Bowden belong.
Melvin Gordon belongs.
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I think Marcus Allen gets forgotten. He had THE biggest season before Sanders.
Anyone I put on there that doesn't belong?
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Rockne's coaching career is sort of cut in half for this, so I'd put Snyder in.
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I liked Bill Snyder a lot, and think he doesn't get nearly enough credit, in a lot of ways.
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I don't envy a task of filtering College RBs into a neat list.
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Ricky Williams is the best running back in college football history, so I'd probably have him on the list. :)
But yeah it's a crazy task. It's probably similarly difficult for most positions, we just don't know all of those dudes' names the way we do RBs and QBs.
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Johnny Manziel played for the Aggies . He threw for a total of 7,820 yards, 63 touchdowns, and rushed for 2,169 yards and 30 touchdowns during his college career, becoming the first freshman to win the Heisman Trophy in 2012.Did a hell of a lot on average teams though i loathe the fact the Browns drafted him like Tebow great collegiate career that didn't transfer to the LEAGUE.
maybe Reggie Bush at RB and Te Ginn Jr as WR/KR
Katzenmoyer(before injury) could be in the LB discussion
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We can do a separate one for mid-major, G5 teams. Guys like Largent, Twilley, Rice, Selvie, Edwards, etc and easily fill in 100 great players.
If'n anybody wants to.
Tomlinson
Faulk
Corey Davis
Marcus Harris
Chang, Keenum, Brennan....
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We can do a separate one for mid-major, G5 teams. Guys like Largent, Twilley, Rice, Selvie, Edwards, etc and easily fill in 100 great players.
If'n anybody wants to.
Tomlinson
Faulk
Corey Davis
Marcus Harris
Chang, Keenum, Brennan....
Lots of Vols on your original list.
I am satisfied.
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Lots of Vols on your original list.
I am satisfied.
And I added another one. Madness!
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I don't envy a task of filtering College RBs into a neat list.
Rozier might make a filter
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Nah, just a system RB. :57:
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well, they called them I-backs for a reason
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I-I-I
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It feels super weird to have 3 UM guys at WR for an all-time team.
A run-first, hard-nosed, stout defense reputation over decades, no big-stat QBs in their history.....yet Anthony Carter, Desmond Howard, and Braylon Edwards have strong cases.
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Carter/Braylon ya.Much better receivers out there than Despot. I'd go with Toomer
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Carter/Braylon ya.Much better receivers out there than Despot. I'd go with Toomer
How many Heismans does Toomer have?
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hypesmans? Eric Crouch has one as a QB, he might not make the list
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What does Howard lack? I find this opinion bizarre.
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well, it's coming from a Buckeye fan ;)
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RB (12): B.Sanders, Dorsett, Allen, H.Walker, Griffin, Blanchard, D.Walker, Dayne, J.Taylor, B.Jackson, Gordon, R.Williams
So let's say this is our 12 'best' RBs of all-time.
Can we make a separate list with none of them, as the 12 'most talented' RBs ever? I'm thinking of guys like Adrian Peterson and Marcus Dupree.
You guys got 10 more talent > productivity type guys (not that they're low-productivity)?
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talent? just from the sooners - Marcus Dupree, Joe Washington, Billy Sims
Rozier and Craig from Nebraska
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talent? just from the sooners - Marcus Dupree, Joe Washington, Billy Sims
Rozier and Craig from Nebraska
let's expand it out to all teams, lol
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I'll encourage others to do just that - I'm more familiar with the Big 8 Big 12
utee doesn't usually care for my opinion of anything from Texas but,.... I'd suggest Earl Campbell
as for the Big 8 - Darren Sproles
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Barkley?
Bush
Fournette
Dunn
Ki-Jana Carter
McFadden
McCaffrey
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Which of these USC backs was best: White, Davis, Bell, Garrett, Cunningham
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Garrett
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Eric Dickerson gained 4,450 yards on 790 carries to break Earl Campbell’s Southwest Conference record for yards and attempts. His 48 career touchdowns tied Doak Walker’s SMU total for career scoring. In his senior year, despite splitting time with James, Dickerson finished third in the Heisman Trophy voting, behind Herschel Walker and John Elway.[8] He was also a first-team All-American in 1982 and a second-team All-American in 1981
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yer just still sore he wasn't a longhorn
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yer just still sore he wasn't a longhorn
We didn't bother recruiting him because we knew we couldn't afford him.
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would have needed a booster that owned the Porsche dealership - Pontiac wasn't enuff
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Copying the NFL's 100 years team....I want to fill in players nearly all of us agree upon and then see if we can fill it out to completion.
This is college only. COLLEGE ONLY. Going back 100 years (1925-2024) only. I'd prefer P4/5 only, but that's wonky before the late 70s.
Copy and add to it if you think a guy is consensus or close to it.
T (7): J.Thomas, Ogden, Pace, Fralic, Gallery, McKinnie, Yary
G (7): Shields, Hannah, Steinkuhler, A.Taylor, Andrews, J.Parker, Kell
we're talking college only, Jake Long should be on that list for tackle way before Robert Gallery makes a sniff. Jake Long was insane level good and injuries robbed him of what should've been an NFL HoF career. Could make a great case for Steve Hutchinson at guard too.
could be homer of me- but don't think so. both those guys were stupid good.
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We didn't bother recruiting him because we knew we couldn't afford him.
well ya could now with the NIL.
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We didn't bother recruiting him because we knew we couldn't afford him.
Texa$ couldn't afford $omething?
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well ya could now with the NIL.
Yeah if only the NCAA's corrupt and illegal rules against a specific class of US citizens receiving the same rights as all other citizens, had been opposed and stuck down 50 years earlier!
:)
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I think you have to include NFL performance in such a ranking.
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well then, that leaves Robert Gallery out
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I think you have to include NFL performance in such a ranking.
You, sir, are a bastard. :72:
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well ya could now with the NIL.
All football players who do not transfer at all get a 1983 gold Trans-Am, lol
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Who are your school's top 5 all-time middle LBs? And who are the top 5 "edge" pass-rusher LBs/DEs?
For Florida:
MLB
Brandon Spikes, Scot Brantley, David Little, Godfrey Myles/Tim Paulk (played together, people tend to prefer one over the other, both were awesome), Brandon Siler
EDGE
Alex Brown, Wilbur Marshall, Jarvis Moss, Huey Richardson, Kevin Carter
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I know OSU had a ton of great MLBs back in the day and more elite edge guys recently.
One thing most people don't know is that James Laurinaitis of OSU was one of the rare 3x consensus All-Americans in history.
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Who are your school's top 5 all-time middle LBs? And who are the top 5 "edge" pass-rusher LBs/DEs?
For Florida:
MLB
Brandon Spikes, Scot Brantley, David Little, Godfrey Myles/Tim Paulk (played together, people tend to prefer one over the other, both were awesome), Brandon Siler
EDGE
Alex Brown, Wilbur Marshall, Jarvis Moss, Huey Richardson, Kevin Carter
No Javon Kearse?
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Who are your school's top 5 all-time middle LBs? And who are the top 5 "edge" pass-rusher LBs/DEs?
MLB
Barrett Ruud
Tom "Train Wreck" Novak
Jay Foreman
Carlos Polk
Blackshirts didn't use a lot of MLB's unless you cornside inside LBs as in the 5-2 defense
Edge
Jim SKow
Grant Wistrom
Trev Alberts
Broderick Thomas
Demorrio Williams
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No Javon Kearse?
Ability, yes. Production, no.
In Florida's in-house stats and in their media guide in Spurrier's early years, they counted "big plays" and he did well there.
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Differentiate Jared Tomich and Grand Wistrom for me.
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Grant - 206 total tackles - 58 for loss of 260 yds - 26 sacks 178 yds
58.5 tackles for loss is a Husker record career record for all positions
Grant had 15 total tackles in a game vs Colorado - Husker record for DE
Grant had 20 tackles for loss in a season
Jared - had 10 sacks in a season - better than Grant
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And which was the better Peter?
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Jason was the younger crazy brother and probably the better player
All-American (AP, FWAA, Walter Camp, Sporting News, 1997)
Outland Trophy Finalist (1997)
Bronko Nagurski Defensive Player-of-the-Year Finalist (1997)
Two-Time First-Team All-Big 12 (1996, 1997)
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Jason leads in both empty beer cans crushed against his forehead AND full beer cans crushed against his forehead?
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very easy when you're a big guy full of Oxycontin, Dilaudid, Vicodin, Xanax, & Cocaine
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very easy when you're a big guy full of Oxycontin, Dilaudid, Vicodin, Xanax, & Cocaine
aka "cornfed"
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Yes, ILBs are MLBs.
Here are some tackle-not-sacks LBs with 150+ tackles since 2005 (p5):
Luke Kuechley, BC (thrice 150+)
Evan Weaver, Cal (twice 150+)
Ben Burr-Kirven, UW
Jay Higgins, IA
Scooby Wright, ARI (+14 sacks, dude was on crack)
Mason Foster, UW
Jordon Dizon, CU
Abdul Hodge, IA
Curtis Lofton, OU
Chad Greenway, IA
Tim McGarigle, NW
Kenneth Murray, OU
Sean Weatherspoon, MIZ
Alvin Bowen, ISU
Greg Jones, MSU
Dele Harding, ILL
Kentrell Brothers, MIZ
Lavonte David, UNL
J Leman, ILL
Scott McKillop, PIT
Eric Kendricks, UCLA (150 & 149)
Mike Taylor, WIS
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So, as most of us know, this list is funny, because all the all-time tackles leaders were in the 70s, when teams ran the ball 80% of the time. But these are the modern guys. I only know of some of them.
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Again, since 2005 only (sigh), P5 edge guys (mostly) with 15+ sacks in a season:
Elvis Dumervil, UL (20)
Hau'oli Kikaha, UW
Will Anderson Jr, ALA
Josh Allen, UK
Von Miller, A&M
Donovan Ezeiruaku, BC
Chase Young, OSU
Harold Landry, BC
Antwaun Powell, VT (FLA transfer)
Demarcus Walker, FSU
Whitney Mercilus, ILL
Greg Middleton, IU
Gregory Rousseau, MIA
Carl Nassib, PSU
Da'Quan Bowers, CLEM
Trent Murphy, STAN
Brandon Sharpe, TTU
Willie Evans, MS ST
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Again, sacks weren't an official stat for a long time, but we know of 20+ sack guys from pre-2005, like Derrick Thomas, Terrell Suggs, and others, like DT Tim Ryan of USC, Bruce Smith of VT. A human person named Kiki DeAyala had 22.5 sacks for the Horns in 1982. Hmmph.
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Again, since 2005 only (sigh), P5 edge guys (mostly) with 15+ sacks in a season:
Elvis Dumervil, UL (20)
Hau'oli Kikaha, UW
Will Anderson Jr, ALA
Josh Allen, UK
Von Miller, A&M
Donovan Ezeiruaku, BC
Chase Young, OSU
Harold Landry, BC
Antwaun Powell, VT (FLA transfer)
Demarcus Walker, FSU
Whitney Mercilus, ILL
Greg Middleton, IU
Gregory Rousseau, MIA
Carl Nassib, PSU
Da'Quan Bowers, CLEM
Trent Murphy, STAN
Brandon Sharpe, TTU
Willie Evans, MS ST
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Again, sacks weren't an official stat for a long time, but we know of 20+ sack guys from pre-2005, like Derrick Thomas, Terrell Suggs, and others, like DT Tim Ryan of USC, Bruce Smith of VT. A human person named Kiki DeAyala had 22.5 sacks for the Horns in 1982. Hmmph.
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MLB
Barrett Ruud
Tom "Train Wreck" Novak
Jay Foreman
Carlos Polk
Blackshirts didn't use a lot of MLB's unless you cornside inside LBs as in the 5-2 defense
revised...........
Barrett Ruud
Tom Novak
Jerry Murtaugh
Lavonte David
Ed Stewart