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The Power Four => Big Ten => Topic started by: utee94 on May 20, 2025, 08:43:22 AM
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This is the place to talk about your arthritis, your corns, your nighttime bathroom requirements, and how kids show no respect for their elders and will be the downfall of society.
Oh also, social media are terrible and will also be the downfall of society.
Now get off my lawn!
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I thought we already had a whole thread dedicated to how selfish kids were ruining college football
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I'll get it started off.
I am super-annoyed when driving on a two-lane road with a left turn lane (chicken lane for those in certain parts of the country), and a car in front of me in the left lane slows down a lot, in preparation to move into the left turn lane and make a left turn. If that lane is clear, then move on over, before slowing down.
And also, unless you're pulling a long trailer, there is seldom any need to swing left in order to make a right turn. And there is never any need to swing right in order to make a left turn.
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Quit judging ELA, go get your Labs drawn!
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Speaking of driving, a thing I often see is a person on a freeway slowing down well before an exit. There generally is a bit of a deceleration lane anyway, but the driver slows down without needing to make any kind of real turn.
A fairly common thing here is driver's trying to beat a left turn signal, it goes red, or they rush to turn right on red, and pedestrians are lawfully about to walk into the crosswalk. I have to really watch for that one.
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As someone who currently drives about two hours daily on the interstate, semis are my biggest driving pet peeve. One semi is going roughly 2mph faster than another, so they decide to pass each other and slow down all traffic behind them for the better part of the two miles it takes them to pass. When you throw the impatient car driver who wants to whip his vehicle in and out of the smallest of spaces into this equation, it can make for quite the frustrating drive.
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the equivalent to the "You Know What I Hate....?" thread on the Big 12 board
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the equivalent to the "You Know What I Hate....?" thread on the Big 12 board
Sadly most of these B1G folks are too afraid to venture down there.
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Met a microbiologist once.
They’re a lot bigger than I imagined.
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So on vacation with the daughter, son in law, 2 grandkids…..
I paid for the entirety of the accommodations, a pretty penny obviously, and have, and intend to pick up most of the dinner bills, and already in for 350 for condo groceries.
The wife continues to remind me the kids are on a tight budget, as if I don’t know already, so I am only looking for a few good will gestures as the week goes along. Just a few…. Hey pops, let us get this (little) thing……
We are beginning day 3 of a 7 day free for all, and I’ve seen….2 Build a Bears bought, 2 souvenir cups, several souvenir T shirts, some liquor purchased, and the cherry on top….a brand new pair of On Cloud sneakers for the SIL.
Tight budget you say? Hmmm….🤔. I think agree , tight on needs, loose on wants.
Rant over.
Edit: daughter and wife just got back from buying daughter a new bathing suit, because the 8 she brought are unacceptable.
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So on vacation with the daughter, son in law, 2 grandkids…..
I paid for the entirety of the accommodations, a pretty penny obviously, and have, and intend to pick up most of the dinner bills, and already in for 350 for condo groceries.
The wife continues to remind me the kids are on a tight budget, as if I don’t know already, so I am only looking for a few good will gestures as the week goes along. Just a few…. Hey pops, let us get this (little) thing……
We are beginning day 3 of a 7 day free for all, and I’ve seen….2 Build a Bears bought, 2 souvenir cups, several souvenir T shirts, some liquor purchased, and the cherry on top….a brand new pair of On Cloud sneakers for the SIL.
Tight budget you say? Hmmm….🤔. I think agree , tight on needs, loose on wants.
Rant over.
Edit: daughter and wife just got back from buying daughter a new bathing suit, because the 8 she brought are unacceptable.
Seems to me that you should develop a sudden "illness" and book a flight home.
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Seems to me that you should develop a sudden "illness" and book a flight home.
I drove down.
I’ll use it as another teachable moment.
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I drove down.
I’ll use it as another teachable moment.
You can fly home and let them drive back. I have a lot of good ideas, you know.
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good luck
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You can fly home and let them drive back. I have a lot of good ideas, you know.
I’ll run your plan by the wife. I’ll report back. 😂
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Speaking of driving, a thing I often see is a person on a freeway slowing down well before an exit. There generally is a bit of a deceleration lane anyway, but the driver slows down without needing to make any kind of real turn.
A fairly common thing here is driver's trying to beat a left turn signal, it goes red, or they rush to turn right on red, and pedestrians are lawfully about to walk into the crosswalk. I have to really watch for that one.
Don't get me started on tunnels
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Young people constantly on their cell phones annoy me. Seems a lot of age demographics are afflicted with this, but young people are hit the hardest. When I walk around campus the college students are all walking around, isolated, face buried in their phones. I've seen more than one of them trip as they either approach or step off of a curb. Does it phase them? No, they just recover, and go right back to walking with their screen in front of them. I wonder if I robbed them, would they even notice?
Life is short. You should have friends, especially at school. I usually made a friend or two in whatever class I was in and after a while you know other people are going where you're going at the same time, and we walked the campus having conversations. I hate all the social isolation I see with phones.
Doesn't even seem safe to me. Besides running into things, women are safer to walk in groups rather than alone, and looking around being aware of your surroundings is a deterrent to bad things happening to you.
It seems a lot of these girls mitigate their risk of being attractive to predators by being in their pajamas 100% of the time. We used to at least put on jeans and a t-shirt to go out in public, especially to class. But I guess that's another rant.
/old fart rant
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You wrote that on your phone?
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Cell phones are great for antisocial introverted misanthropes like me.
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Had my eyes dilated, can barely see. Grump.
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Had my eyes dilated, can barely see. Grump.
How many fingers am I holding up?
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7. They dilate your pupils of course and then the doc scans your eyes with a bright as heck Jewish laser ...
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never noticed that from my eye exams - of course I can't see well to begin with
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I had worse than 20-200 vision, couldn't see the big E, even if it was an aircraft carrier. It's now 20-20, but I can't see up close now, even if it's an aircraft carrier.
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7. They dilate your pupils of course and then the doc scans your eyes with a bright as heck Jewish laser ...
Ugh, that's really annoying, especially if you have to leave out in the bright sunlight. Nothing to do but shield your eyes, have somebody else guide you along and drive you home, and try not to trip on anything while walking with your eyes covered.
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Young people constantly on their cell phones annoy me. Seems a lot of age demographics are afflicted with this, but young people are hit the hardest. When I walk around campus the college students are all walking around, isolated, face buried in their phones. I've seen more than one of them trip as they either approach or step off of a curb. Does it phase them? No, they just recover, and go right back to walking with their screen in front of them. I wonder if I robbed them, would they even notice?
Life is short. You should have friends, especially at school. I usually made a friend or two in whatever class I was in and after a while you know other people are going where you're going at the same time, and we walked the campus having conversations. I hate all the social isolation I see with phones.
Doesn't even seem safe to me. Besides running into things, women are safer to walk in groups rather than alone, and looking around being aware of your surroundings is a deterrent to bad things happening to you.
It seems a lot of these girls mitigate their risk of being attractive to predators by being in their pajamas 100% of the time. We used to at least put on jeans and a t-shirt to go out in public, especially to class. But I guess that's another rant.
/old fart rant
First of all, thank you Utee for starting this thread. I have been looking around more than normal lately and thinking to not let myself turn into a grumpy old man lol. And it starts with this thread just above me that MDT POSTED.
everywhere you go all you see is people, and especially children, with their face buried in their phones. To me this is where it’s killing us as a society. Children should be active or playing, and people no longer have the ability to actually talk to each other. This is where the polarization begins and ends
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One thing about phones I notice is folks in the park, it's a nice park, nose buried in cell. They CAME to the park to see the park, trees, people, girls, etc., and all they do is watch their phone and bump into me. Humans can't seem to live more than a minute without checking their phones.
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I never take my phone into public space.
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I had to pick up homebrew ingredients for Monday. So the plan was for my wife and I to take the dog to the brewery right by the homebrew store.
One of the big things I always wanted when getting a dog was that he would be a "brewery dog", and to take him places like that. Of course, that got off to a rough start since we brought him home about 2 months before COVID hit :96:
Nope. Place was an utter madhouse. Granted, it's in an area frequented by young/hip people (i.e. nothing like us), so I get it. But there was no way we were going to try to brave that insanity.
So we got the homebrew ingredients, and then decided to try a much more "chill" brewery on the way home.
Nope. That place was crazy too.
So we came home. The world is just too damn people-y today.
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My phone tells me I average about 1 hour of screen time per week. I assume this is extremely low on average.
Any place I specifically go to be at that place, don't have my phone on me. If I'm going to meet someone to interact and fellowship with them, don't have my phone on me.
The masses are married to their phones and it's gross.
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The brew pub concept is a good one, I think, perhaps "too good" in the sense it attracts "people".
I stumbled into one in Seattle circa 1988 or so, I was there for a conference, and went to lunch. The place had a fantastic salmon sandwich and some kind of beer that came out of a thing they called a "tap". It was really good.
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One thing about phones I notice is folks in the park, it's a nice park, nose buried in cell. They CAME to the park to see the park, trees, people, girls, etc., and all they do is watch their phone and bump into me. Humans can't seem to live more than a minute without checking their phones.
Not really I simply got in the habit of leaving it away from me at work and checking it when practical.But I dont use it every day just a flip phone but i can get maps but don't use that either. I always look at one before I leave,I'm good. Just got my 1st cell last year for "basic hello need/this or that ,good bye". Would not have if payphones were still a viable option.
I was surprised at how many people still don't have or want one. I thought I was the last hold out. We were a cluster of outcasts that never went on Social media be it facespace,Instagram,linkedin,twatter or what ever. This place was it - I have been on next door but that was just to find/give local info. Now people at work walking around with cells like it's a colostomy bag just pisses me off
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I checked mine after the turn, on #11
nothing to report as usual
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Only reason I have a cell phone right now is because it is required for my job of taking care of my sister --I log in and out on my cell phone - if I don't do that, I wouldn't get paid. I use my computer to set up the visits on a similar app but I can't do that on my cell, so I just recently bought a tablet that I can take with me to some scheduling while waiting at the doctor or the library waiting on my sister, etc. I haven't quite got the hang of it yet, but at least I think I finally figured out how to get my detachable keyboard to work, lol. Bluetooth, Wi-fi, hot spot, tethering ----I get confused, ha ha. The things we do for family.
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My phone has a nice trail app, but you don't get any reception on any of the good hikes, due to steep cliffs and canyon walls.
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Mine never rings unless someone calls who is already recognized, and that is very rare.
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mine doesn't ring often enuff for my liking but,............. I'm in sales
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The phone is just an app on my phone... That I rarely use.
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the one app on my phone that I really don't enjoy using is the email app, but I'm in sales
a good reason to retire
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I hate it when my friends/family text me long, ongoing stuff that takes forever to type out. Stuff that could've been solved with a 30 second phone call. But no, they insist on texting, and then asking followup questions on more texts, and needing clarification because they didn't understand a text......
If I call them, or ask to call them to get it over with more quickly, they say no, they're too busy.
If you're too busy to pick up the phone, you're too busy to text. Use texts for quick, unimportant things. Call people for actual conversations. I swear, I get texts like "Grandma is in the hospital again, here's 8 pages of text that doesn't explain nearly as much as I think it does while I type it over 30 minutes. I could call you and tell you much more clearly and quickly what's going on, but I'm a slave to my habits and refuse to change."
Or at least that's how I read those kind of texts.
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Don't ever dare add this grumpy old man to a group text.
I have enough knuckleheads at work that insist on copying me on every e-mail chain that doesn't necessarily pertain to me.
And I'll place a voodoo curse on the idiot in either, that replies to all --- "ok", or, "thanks".
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One thing about phones I notice is folks in the park, it's a nice park, nose buried in cell. They CAME to the park to see the park, trees, people, girls, etc., and all they do is watch their phone and bump into me. Humans can't seem to live more than a minute without checking their phones.
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Need to post that sign in airports everywhere.
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I've been known to walk straight at them to see if they actually look up and move
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My neighbor is a good enough guy, no major problems with that family. He's much younger than me, I'd say mid-late-20's. But they leave one trash can out at the road. Due to the way our lots are located on a curve, both our driveways hit the road right next to each other, and he puts their trash cans on the side of their driveway that also puts it on the side of my driveway. The old neighbors put their trash cans on the other side of their driveway so it wasn't as in our face. He also took them in.
This kid puts out two trash cans every week.....and inexplicably takes one of them in after the truck comes. The other one lives out there, and it's an eyesore, I'm tired of looking at it, and I don't understand why?!?? Just take your other damn trash can in! So I guess it's more accurate to say he puts out one trash can each week, because he never actually has to put out the second one, because it stays out.
I at least wouldn't have to look at it quite as much, and my family wouldn't have to be careful to avoid it while backing out if he'd put it on the other side of their driveway. It's not the kind of thing I'm willing to go talk to him about, but it's enough of a thing that it irks the hell out of me.
I want my old neighbors back. But no, that idiot had to have an affair, split up their marriage, and sell the house.
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My neighbor is a good enough guy, no major problems with that family. He's much younger than me, I'd say mid-late-20's. But they leave one trash can out at the road. Due to the way our lots are located on a curve, both our driveways hit the road right next to each other, and he puts their trash cans on the side of their driveway that also puts it on the side of my driveway. The old neighbors put their trash cans on the other side of their driveway so it wasn't as in our face. He also took them in.
This kid puts out two trash cans every week.....and inexplicably takes one of them in after the truck comes. The other one lives out there, and it's an eyesore, I'm tired of looking at it, and I don't understand why?!?? Just take your other damn trash can in! So I guess it's more accurate to say he puts out one trash can each week, because he never actually has to put out the second one, because it stays out.
I at least wouldn't have to look at it quite as much, and my family wouldn't have to be careful to avoid it while backing out if he'd put it on the other side of their driveway. It's not the kind of thing I'm willing to go talk to him about, but it's enough of a thing that it irks the hell out of me.
I want my old neighbors back. But no, that idiot had to have an affair, split up their marriage, and sell the house.
This kind of thing annoys me, too.
But since moving to a neighborhood with an HOA, I never have to deal with it. Anyone doing this would get fined into oblivion.
Lots of folks complain about HOAs but I'm delighted that ours enforces the things that should be considered common sense and good manners, since neither of those seem to exist anymore.
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This kind of thing annoys me, too.
But since moving to a neighborhood with an HOA, I never have to deal with it. Anyone doing this would get fined into oblivion.
Lots of folks complain about HOAs but I'm delighted that ours enforces the things that should be considered common sense and good manners, since neither of those seem to exist anymore.
The State of Florida eliminated this to a point. you can leave it out for 24 hours without getting fined now. HOA Nazi's here were fining people after their allotted times, which were as little as 2 hours after pickup.
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I've been known to walk straight at them to see if they actually look up and move
There were 3 that did note move in my two jaunts through O'Hare in the past week. They each got a shoulder shiver. Oops.
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Need to post that sign in airports everywhere.
The real old guy catch-22. on one hand, there’s a strong dislike of phones. On the other, you might have to make eye contact or interact with someone in the goddamn airport.
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My neighbor is a good enough guy, no major problems with that family. He's much younger than me, I'd say mid-late-20's. But they leave one trash can out at the road. Due to the way our lots are located on a curve, both our driveways hit the road right next to each other, and he puts their trash cans on the side of their driveway that also puts it on the side of my driveway. The old neighbors put their trash cans on the other side of their driveway so it wasn't as in our face. He also took them in.
This kid puts out two trash cans every week.....and inexplicably takes one of them in after the truck comes. The other one lives out there, and it's an eyesore, I'm tired of looking at it, and I don't understand why?!?? Just take your other damn trash can in! So I guess it's more accurate to say he puts out one trash can each week, because he never actually has to put out the second one, because it stays out.
I at least wouldn't have to look at it quite as much, and my family wouldn't have to be careful to avoid it while backing out if he'd put it on the other side of their driveway. It's not the kind of thing I'm willing to go talk to him about, but it's enough of a thing that it irks the hell out of me.
I want my old neighbors back. But no, that idiot had to have an affair, split up their marriage, and sell the house.
It'd be a real shame if that can that lives at the end of the driveway came up missing.
Or mysteriously turned up on the other side of his driveway.
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Need to post that sign in airports everywhere.
FIFY
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I'd decorate a flowery cross and stick it in the ground on that edge of his driveway, like someone died there.
The cans will stay on the other side, even the permanent one.
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The State of Florida eliminated this to a point. you can leave it out for 24 hours without getting fined now. HOA Nazi's here were fining people after their allotted times, which were as little as 2 hours after pickup.
MDT's neighbor is leaving it out permanently. Ain't no Florida law gonna save somebody doing that. Daily fines with escalators.
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Our mobile home park at least gives everyone one full day to get their cans back by the trailers - trash is picked up separately from the recycle, so you never know for sure when they will be by. At least we know what day to put them out. Lawn stuff is picked up on a separate day and large branches etc. are also picked up separately. We share a driveway with someone but they put their cans out on the west side of the driveway and we put ours out on the right side. Never had a problem with them, thank goodness. We are warned of fines if the cans are not back to the house by the following morning for sure.
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My neighbor is a good enough guy, no major problems with that family. He's much younger than me, I'd say mid-late-20's. But they leave one trash can out at the road. Due to the way our lots are located on a curve, both our driveways hit the road right next to each other, and he puts their trash cans on the side of their driveway that also puts it on the side of my driveway. The old neighbors put their trash cans on the other side of their driveway so it wasn't as in our face. He also took them in.
This kid puts out two trash cans every week.....and inexplicably takes one of them in after the truck comes. The other one lives out there, and it's an eyesore, I'm tired of looking at it, and I don't understand why?!?? Just take your other damn trash can in! So I guess it's more accurate to say he puts out one trash can each week, because he never actually has to put out the second one, because it stays out.
I at least wouldn't have to look at it quite as much, and my family wouldn't have to be careful to avoid it while backing out if he'd put it on the other side of their driveway. It's not the kind of thing I'm willing to go talk to him about, but it's enough of a thing that it irks the hell out of me.
I want my old neighbors back. But no, that idiot had to have an affair, split up their marriage, and sell the house.
if it irks the hell out of you, go talk to him
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This kid puts out two trash cans every week.....and inexplicably takes one of them in after the truck comes. The other one lives out there, and it's an eyesore, I'm tired of looking at it, and I don't understand why?!?? Just take your other damn trash can in! So I guess it's more accurate to say he puts out one trash can each week, because he never actually has to put out the second one, because it stays out.
My Mom had a backhanded way of dealing with ssimilar neighbor when us brothers were adolescents. In one of the small Midwest towns that our childhood took us through, there were known poachers next door. After quartering their offseason deer in their back shed and storing its meat in their deep freezer, the remains would get tossed into the trash can that would sit at the end of their driveway. Us brothers knew this without having to take a peek inside their garbage cans because we were classmates with the neighbor's kids, who bragged at school about (offseason) hunting trips with their Dad.
The weekly trash truck refused to take their garbage can full of mostly animal remains. They left flyers with directions to the county's Wildlife Carcass Disposal pit. So their trash can continued to stink up the end of their driveway and that's what bothered my Mom. She had a sensitive nose prone to triggering headaches, which is why us brothers were prompted to keep our fish aquariums, lizard terrarium, and the cat's litter box so clean. She wondered aloud why our neighbors didn't bury the deer remains in the vast forest behind our shared property line. (Answer: they were lazy bumpkins.)
Didn't leaving animal remains out make it their poaching more known? Which is what happened. Deputies showed up one afternoon while us brothers were shooting hoops in our driveway, and paid our neighbor's trash cans a visit. Confronted by our neighbors, the sheriff's deputies said they didn't need a warrant since the trash cans were left out in the street. By then they'd seen enough to summon the county game warden. Our neighbors were eventually investigated for poaching. Fines and misdemeanors were weighed, but our neighbors (who already had mild criminal records), hired a lawyer and easily beat potential charges by raising enough doubt, such as claiming the deer was roadkill they'd cleaned up. But the point was made: 1) Don't leave your trash cans on the street, and 2) don't let your trash cans stink over night.
A decade later, when us brothers were in our twenties, she revealed how her invisible hand contributed to this lesson on the day before deputies showed up. During one of her visits to Walmart in the next town over, she used the payphone to call the county sheriff's office to report a suspicious smell, and playing her hand as the unsuspecting housewife, she innocently worried whether the smell could be a body. Needless to say, our neighbors never again left their garbage cans out overnight.
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At my old house, our neighbors had several cars and they always parked a car in front of my house-- even though they had the space to park in front of their own. Now I completely understand that the streets are public property and there's no legal right to the space in front of your own house, but since they were clearly parking in front of my house, to keep the street clear in front of their own, I found it to be very annoying. I mentioned it a couple of times and they just sort of said, "oh yeah, sorry." But they continued to do it anyway.
So, I started parking in front of their house every time they were parked in front of mine. Eventually, they stopped doing it.
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I'd actually forgotten about that. The HOA prevents that sort of thing from ever becoming an issue in our new neighborhood.
God Bless the HOA!
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At my old house, our neighbors had several cars and they always parked a car in front of my house-- even though they had the space to park in front of their own. Now I completely understand that the streets are public property and there's no legal right to the space in front of your own house, but since they were clearly parking in front of my house, to keep the street clear in front of their own, I found it to be very annoying. I mentioned it a couple of times and they just sort of said, "oh yeah, sorry." But they continued to do it anyway.
So, I started parking in front of their house every time they were parked in front of mine. Eventually, they stopped doing it.
Parking on our street has been a nightmare for most of the past 18 months as our next door neighbors were doing a full down-to-the-studs renovation and putting in a pool. There's been workmen coming and going that entire time. It's a neighborhood without a ton of room anyway, and between my Jeep in the garage, my wife's RX in the driveway, my Flex on the street, and my son's Highlander on the street--sometimes it gets a little difficult to find a place to park with all the extra vehicles there during the day working on the house.
Well, the sonofabitch about four houses up the street (same guy whose pitbull attacked a golden retriever without provocation and I intervened a few years ago) got pissy one day when my son had been looking for parking and ended up in front of his house. Wrote a nasty note on a piece of paper saying my son should park down by the corner instead. And yet I believe it was literally the first time my son ever parked there; we'd all rather be closer to our own house. Now the bastard puts cones on the street in front of his house to save parking for himself and his giant truck.
Great job, asshole. Oh, and from the looks of you... Taking a few extra steps each day might do you some good.
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HOA?
Is this a curmudgeon thread, or male Karen?
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HOA?
Is this a curmudgeon thread, or male Karen?
Darren
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The HOA is awesome. No Karens needed, the fines take care of it all.
Everyone signs up for it, if you don't like it, plenty of places to live that don't have it, for those who enjoy seeing cars on blocks in the neighborhood frontyards.
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Parking on our street has been a nightmare for most of the past 18 months as our next door neighbors were doing a full down-to-the-studs renovation and putting in a pool. There's been workmen coming and going that entire time. It's a neighborhood without a ton of room anyway, and between my Jeep in the garage, my wife's RX in the driveway, my Flex on the street, and my son's Highlander on the street--sometimes it gets a little difficult to find a place to park with all the extra vehicles there during the day working on the house.
Well, the sonofabitch about four houses up the street (same guy whose pitbull attacked a golden retriever without provocation and I intervened a few years ago) got pissy one day when my son had been looking for parking and ended up in front of his house. Wrote a nasty note on a piece of paper saying my son should park down by the corner instead. And yet I believe it was literally the first time my son ever parked there; we'd all rather be closer to our own house. Now the bastard puts cones on the street in front of his house to save parking for himself and his giant truck.
Great job, asshole. Oh, and from the looks of you... Taking a few extra steps each day might do you some good.
Like jgvol said....
It would be a shame if something were to.....happen.....to those cones.
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Like jgvol said....
It would be a shame if something were to.....happen.....to those cones.
Everyone has ring cameras now.
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So my immediate neighbor has FINALLY completed--after 18 months--their home remodel. Which for me as someone who works from home 80% of the time, and likes to keep the windows open unless it's 85+ degrees and I need to run the AC, has been rough. Between the construction noise, and the constant music, and all that... It's been rough.
Well, it's over. Great, right?
No. They've got teenage boys, they put in a pool, and it's now the summer. And the teenage boys have friends. And they all like to hang out in the backyard and in the pool. So now construction noise and music has been replaced by idiot teenagers and... music. And it's not hot enough for me to close those windows and run the AC yet. And then in the evening they all like to shoot hoops on their basketball hoop in the front yard... Bang. Bang. Bang. Clang. Bang. Bang. Bang. Clang. Ugh.
Fun. I'd say that at least I don't have to say "GET OFF MY LAWN!", but the basketball occasionally get onto my lawn and they run up there to retrieve.
Is that "Grumpy Old Man" enough for y'all?
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That's the spirit!
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Today at the office, I was walking down the two flights of stairs from my floor, to the cafeteria, to grab some of the worst, most bland office cafeteria food ever, because I didn't have time to pack a lunch like I usually do.
So anyway, I end up stuck behind this guy walking down the stairs very slowly, because... he's on his GD phone, reading and texting. He's going so slow, but there's enough traffic coming up the stairs, I don't have a chance to get around him. Finally we get to the bottom, and he takes one step away from the bottom stair, and just stops. And there's not enough room to get around him. So I finally just tap him on the shoulder and say, "Excuse me" and he sort of looks back at me blankly, but moves slightly further away from the stairway, and I can finally get around him.
Then after I grab my lunch and I'm headed back up the stairs, on two occasions I encounter people coming down the stairs side by side, just chatting it up, oblivious to oncoming traffic. Each time they see me, and still make no move to get single file, until they're basically on top of me. I had to come to a complete stop, because otherwise they would not have moved in time for me to NOT plow into them.
Being back in the office is great, really great!
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So my immediate neighbor has FINALLY completed--after 18 months--their home remodel. Which for me as someone who works from home 80% of the time, and likes to keep the windows open unless it's 85+ degrees and I need to run the AC, has been rough. Between the construction noise, and the constant music, and all that... It's been rough.
Well, it's over. Great, right?
No. They've got teenage boys, they put in a pool, and it's now the summer. And the teenage boys have friends. And they all like to hang out in the backyard and in the pool. So now construction noise and music has been replaced by idiot teenagers and... music. And it's not hot enough for me to close those windows and run the AC yet. And then in the evening they all like to shoot hoops on their basketball hoop in the front yard... Bang. Bang. Bang. Clang. Bang. Bang. Bang. Clang. Ugh.
Fun. I'd say that at least I don't have to say "GET OFF MY LAWN!", but the basketball occasionally get onto my lawn and they run up there to retrieve.
Is that "Grumpy Old Man" enough for y'all?
Thread winner.
You know you're grumpy and old when you're a Purdue guy, complaining about basketball sounds.
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I honestly can’t imagine what it would feel like to leave the windows open into June because it’s not hot enough for AC.
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just move to Cali
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just move to Cali
Are you nuts?
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We were checking in for our flight to SD and Delta had three desks open in that tier, which was enough, but some dude was having major issues and screaming at the desk agent. Now people were starting to line up. We got in just before this started. The man started to walk away several times and turned around to scream and curse at the agent. Another Delta person, a red coat, was also there trying to defuse. Meanwhile the line got to maybe 20 and folks were leaving to go to another desk. I've never seen anyone stay that long so incensed. We were checked in and leaving and he was still going at it.
We had a flight on Air Canada a while back that the cruise line had made. We showed up early to check in and the desk clerk told us the tickets were "not confirmed". This was bad news as we had a flight to Toronto and then Dubai to board our cruise ship. We didn't scream and curse, but it lasted a while with him on the phone. I still had the number for the cruise line air department and fortunately they answered right away and somehow fixed the issue. I don't know why one would scream and curse that long at an airline employee.
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some losers vent longer than others
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So my immediate neighbor has FINALLY completed--after 18 months--their home remodel. Which for me as someone who works from home 80% of the time, and likes to keep the windows open unless it's 85+ degrees and I need to run the AC, has been rough. Between the construction noise, and the constant music, and all that... It's been rough.
Well, it's over. Great, right?
No. They've got teenage boys, they put in a pool, and it's now the summer. And the teenage boys have friends. And they all like to hang out in the backyard and in the pool. So now construction noise and music has been replaced by idiot teenagers and... music. And it's not hot enough for me to close those windows and run the AC yet. And then in the evening they all like to shoot hoops on their basketball hoop in the front yard... Bang. Bang. Bang. Clang. Bang. Bang. Bang. Clang. Ugh.
Fun. I'd say that at least I don't have to say "GET OFF MY LAWN!", but the basketball occasionally get onto my lawn and they run up there to retrieve.
Is that "Grumpy Old Man" enough for y'all?
I feel like we were meant to be friends. I identify with this post. It has just the right amount of irritability, curmudgeonliness, and tolerance.
I almost have some sympathy for your young neighbors, as I loved playing basketball until I physically couldn't. At that age I was out with the neighborhood kids until the sun went down, every day. Never crossed my mind we might be annoying the Grumpy Old Men. Which....includes me now, so......I said I almost have sympathy for your young neighbors :)
I'm reminded of Danny Devito and Billy Crystal in Throw Mama From The Train.....crisscross, brad.....crisscross. I'll take care of your neighbors with too much construction and pools and basketballs, and you take care of my neighbors who won't bring their trash in.
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So my immediate neighbor has FINALLY completed--after 18 months--their home remodel. Which for me as someone who works from home 80% of the time, and likes to keep the windows open unless it's 85+ degrees and I need to run the AC, has been rough. Between the construction noise, and the constant music, and all that... It's been rough.
Well, it's over. Great, right?
No. They've got teenage boys, they put in a pool, and it's now the summer. And the teenage boys have friends. And they all like to hang out in the backyard and in the pool. So now construction noise and music has been replaced by idiot teenagers and... music. And it's not hot enough for me to close those windows and run the AC yet. And then in the evening they all like to shoot hoops on their basketball hoop in the front yard... Bang. Bang. Bang. Clang. Bang. Bang. Bang. Clang. Ugh.
Parking on our street has been a nightmare for most of the past 18 months as our next door neighbors were doing a full down-to-the-studs renovation and putting in a pool. There's been workmen coming and going that entire time. It's a neighborhood without a ton of room anyway, and between my Jeep in the garage, my wife's RX in the driveway, my Flex on the street, and my son's Highlander on the street--sometimes it gets a little difficult to find a place to park with all the extra vehicles there during the day working on the house.
Well, the sonofabitch about four houses up the street (same guy whose pitbull attacked a golden retriever without provocation and I intervened a few years ago) got pissy one day when my son had been looking for parking and ended up in front of his house. Wrote a nasty note on a piece of paper saying my son should park down by the corner instead. And yet I believe it was literally the first time my son ever parked there; we'd all rather be closer to our own house. Now the bastard puts cones on the street in front of his house to save parking for himself and his giant truck.
Great job, asshole. Oh, and from the looks of you... Taking a few extra steps each day might do you some good.
After those who could blame you if you snap, just don't go full William Foster. Even though sometimes others have a kharmic lesson coming
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This is more of a general complaint than specifically me being a grumpy old man, but I don't know where else to put this.
Early Monday morning meetings should be banned. Give me a chance to get my work-legs under me, catch up on the emails people send throughout the weekend even though they know I'm not checking them (nor am I required to), get that second cup of (insert caffeine product here) in me, and clear the cobwebs from my brain.
Don't hit me with back to back 9 am and 10 am meetings to engineer solutions to your decrepit, ancient, abysmal workflows until, like, 11 am on Monday, at the earliest.
Sigh. Okay, off to early Monday morning meetings.
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I have one at 11 AM that I'm not happy about.
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Only thing worse than Monday morning meetings, is Friday afternoon meetings, especially in the summer.
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My business partner used to love to call early Monday morning and later Friday afternoon meetings.
Then I said, I'm gonna have to break away. Those meetings stopped.
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Today at the office, I was walking down the two flights of stairs from my floor, to the cafeteria, to grab some of the worst, most bland office cafeteria food ever, because I didn't have time to pack a lunch like I usually do.
So anyway, I end up stuck behind this guy walking down the stairs very slowly, because... he's on his GD phone, reading and texting. He's going so slow, but there's enough traffic coming up the stairs, I don't have a chance to get around him. Finally we get to the bottom, and he takes one step away from the bottom stair, and just stops. And there's not enough room to get around him. So I finally just tap him on the shoulder and say, "Excuse me" and he sort of looks back at me blankly, but moves slightly further away from the stairway, and I can finally get around him.
Then after I grab my lunch and I'm headed back up the stairs, on two occasions I encounter people coming down the stairs side by side, just chatting it up, oblivious to oncoming traffic. Each time they see me, and still make no move to get single file, until they're basically on top of me. I had to come to a complete stop, because otherwise they would not have moved in time for me to NOT plow into them.
Being back in the office is great, really great!
Here I thought you was a player,mover and a shaker amongst the Tribe.What we have here is a complete lack of respect for Authority. Ya should have dropped the "Do you know who I am" card,I'm sure they would have parted like the Red Sea. Or maybe you should make more office appearances so Dell's detectives aren't tossing you out the side door.
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My business partner used to love to call early Monday morning and later Friday afternoon meetings.
Then I said, I'm gonna have to break away. Those meetings stopped.
Prolly pissed off the Pub/Course Manager
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Today at the office, I was walking down the two flights of stairs from my floor, to the cafeteria, to grab some of the worst, most bland office cafeteria food ever, because I didn't have time to pack a lunch like I usually do.
So anyway, I end up stuck behind this guy walking down the stairs very slowly, because... he's on his GD phone, reading and texting. He's going so slow, but there's enough traffic coming up the stairs, I don't have a chance to get around him. Finally we get to the bottom, and he takes one step away from the bottom stair, and just stops. And there's not enough room to get around him. So I finally just tap him on the shoulder and say, "Excuse me" and he sort of looks back at me blankly, but moves slightly further away from the stairway, and I can finally get around him.
Then after I grab my lunch and I'm headed back up the stairs, on two occasions I encounter people coming down the stairs side by side, just chatting it up, oblivious to oncoming traffic. Each time they see me, and still make no move to get single file, until they're basically on top of me. I had to come to a complete stop, because otherwise they would not have moved in time for me to NOT plow into them.
Being back in the office is great, really great!
I saw a post on Instagram... Something to the effect of:
There's nothing worse than when you're a fast walker... And you're walking behind another fast walker but they're only 95% as fast as you. So now you have to either slow down, or you have to suddenly accelerate to comically fast walking to appropriately pass them.
Story of my life.
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I saw a post on Instagram... Something to the effect of:
There's nothing worse than when you're a fast walker... And you're walking behind another fast walker but they're only 95% as fast as you. So now you have to either slow down, or you have to suddenly accelerate to comically fast walking to appropriately pass them.
Story of my life.
Ya well you're trying to get to the ball in the rough and use the foot wedge before anyone notices
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Ya well you're trying to get to the ball in the rough and use the foot wedge before anyone notices
Sounds like...
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I saw a post on Instagram... Something to the effect of:
There's nothing worse than when you're a fast walker... And you're walking behind another fast walker but they're only 95% as fast as you. So now you have to either slow down, or you have to suddenly accelerate to comically fast walking to appropriately pass them.
Story of my life.
This happens a lot to me while driving. Do I slow down 2-3 mph, or do I risk getting a ticket as I gun it way faster to pass them even though I was already going 10 over the limit?
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Only thing worse than Monday morning meetings, is Friday afternoon meetings, especially in the summer.
I had a boss who would do our weekly team check out at 1:30. It wasn’t my favorite, but it was smart from a business sense.
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Today is the first time it won't rain hard here in like a week and a half. Yesterday, before the weather hit for the remainder of the day, whatever lawn service this university uses came to mow my building. The ground was still soaking wet from the previous days' rain, and they rutted up the lawn really badly.
Geez, it's not even my yard and I want to yell at them like an old fart.
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Today is the first time it won't rain hard here in like a week and a half. Yesterday, before the weather hit for the remainder of the day, whatever lawn service this university uses came to mow my building. The ground was still soaking wet from the previous days' rain, and they rutted up the lawn really badly.
Geez, it's not even my yard and I want to yell at them like an old fart.
I wonder if Lamar has their own ground crew? I would think so. Pretty large place to outsource.
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"Service" dogs .... grrr.
I had friends in Cincy who had a really nice dog they turned into a "service dog" by the expedient of buying a $15 vest for him, no training or anything, just so he could go with them into various stores and restaurants. I see them more and more, as do we all now. Many are just regular dogs and their owners don't need any "service".
"Handicapped" parking spaces ... grrr.
Most of the time folks who use them are just fat and would benefit from walking a bit, if they can walk at all. Then they get a motorized cart to carry their lard A to the lard section at Kroger where they block the aisle.
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"Service" dogs are everywhere down here. I HATE that shit.
Some people, like me, are allergic to f'ing dogs.
Would you invite a hairy naked man into your house, one who doesn't wipe his ass, and let him sit on your couch?
That's a dog.
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I'm a dog person, I like nearly every dog, and they seem to like me. I'd have dogs were it practicable for us. I don't like this fake service dog gig. I lived most of my life without SDs, and so did most other folks. I understand there are a very few people who benefit from having a TRAINED actual service dog around them, but they probably should be chary of going out in public anyway.
My wife really gets annoyed when she sees on in Kroger or a restaurant.
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maybe why she doesn't like San Diego
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Publix doesn't allow "service" dogs. They ask for papers at the door if you try to bring a dog in.
I used to see them all the time. Now I don't see them - ever.
Good for me.
I'd estimate the percentage of service dogs to "service" dogs is actually around 0.01 percent.
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It is odd, as larger cities go, I find San Diego to be rather appealing. It's one of a few I'd visit just to visit, I think. There aren't many in that category but thinking about it there are a fair number for me personally.
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San Diego is the only place in CA that I've been. It was Christmas, and the entire country was like single digits or lower except San Diego, which was fine. It was 2017, the year that OSU played USC in Texas, even though both were conference champs and should have played in the Rose Bowl. I had a layover in Texas on the way back to Columbus, where we picked up a bunch of rabid OSU fans that had attended the game. They said it was cold.
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I'd like to stay at the Hotel del Coronado sometime.
Walked around in the hotel once, great place.
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"Service" dogs are everywhere down here. I HATE that shit.
Some people, like me, are allergic to f'ing dogs.
Would you invite a hairy naked man into your house, one who doesn't wipe his ass, and let him sit on your couch?
That's a dog.
Just be grateful cats don't want to go shopping
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I'm a dog person, I like nearly every dog, and they seem to like me. I'd have dogs were it practicable for us. I don't like this fake service dog gig. I lived most of my life without SDs, and so did most other folks. I understand there are a very few people who benefit from having a TRAINED actual service dog around them, but they probably should be chary of going out in public anyway.
My wife really gets annoyed when she sees on in Kroger or a restaurant.
In a bar in the airport, some idiot had his dog sitting on the stool next to him. I absolutely hate going to a restaurant with any kind of animal around.
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Dogs make just about everything better, and I'm a grumpy old fart about people who don't like dogs.
You dog haters are now on my list of suspicious people.
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I love my dog.
I don't think it makes someone a dog-hater, to not want to have animals inside a restaurant or grocery store. Seems like pretty basic sanitation to me.
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I love my dog.
I don't think it makes someone a dog-hater, to not want to have animals inside a restaurant or grocery store. Seems like pretty basic sanitation to me.
Especially if you're allergic to them - like me.
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I love my dog.
I don't think it makes someone a dog-hater, to not want to have animals inside a restaurant or grocery store. Seems like pretty basic sanitation to me.
"Would you invite a hairy naked man into your house, one who doesn't wipe his ass, and let him sit on your couch?
That's a dog."
Dog hater.
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In a bar in the airport, some idiot had his dog sitting on the stool next to him. I absolutely hate going to a restaurant with any kind of animal around.
Dogs make just about everything better, and I'm a grumpy old fart about people who don't like dogs.
You dog haters are now on my list of suspicious people.
"Would you invite a hairy naked man into your house, one who doesn't wipe his ass, and let him sit on your couch?
That's a dog."
Dog hater.
Your statement followed immediately, as above, and you did not quote that original statement, until just now.
Specificity and precision.
Jackwagons think they can be imprecise and vague, just because their team won the baseball championship.
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I would never allow a dog - or any animal- to sit on my couch or be on any other furniture.
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breweries seem to love dogs, especially in Colorado and Cali
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breweries seem to love dogs, especially in Colorado and Cali
My buddy Chip at Live Oak hates having dogs around the brewery, but he likes making money, so he allows dogs in one section of the outdoor biergarten. But there is also a dog-free section of the outdoor biergarten as well. And none are allowed inside.
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My buddy Chip at Live Oak hates having dogs around the brewery, but he likes making money, so he allows dogs in one section of the outdoor biergarten. But there is also a dog-free section of the outdoor biergarten as well. And none are allowed inside.
Our local bar no longer allows dogs. People were getting bit.
Same goes for the farmer's markets. No dogs.
And, oh by the way, the dog would rather be home in the AC than walking around barefoot on hot pavement, in a fur coat.
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I love my dog.
I don't think it makes someone a dog-hater, to not want to have animals inside a restaurant or grocery store. Seems like pretty basic sanitation to me.
My house is a restaurant and a grocery store. I am here....alive.
J/K -- sorta. I just happen to like dogs more than people.
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I would never allow a dog - or any animal- to sit on my couch or be on any other furniture.
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I just happen to like dogs more than people.
Me too.
Granted, that's a low bar.
But dogs are awesome. Thus I like dogs significantly more than people.
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You didn't marry a dog.
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My house is a restaurant and a grocery store. I am here....alive.
J/K -- sorta. I just happen to like dogs more than people.
It's your house, you can choose to live however you like.
I've actually watched a dog stop and take a shit in the middle of a grocery store produce aisle. The owner just sat there and watched it happen.
So, yeah... nope.
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I dunno... The first time, she was a real bitch.
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It's your house, you can choose to live however you like.
I've actually watched a dog stop and take a shit in the middle of a grocery store produce aisle. The owner just sat there and watched it happen.
So, yeah... nope.
What would the owner have done. Put their thumb in the dogs asshole and ushered him outside?
I get it, man. Relax. No dogs in the grocery....I'm good with it. LOL
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What would the owner have done. Put their thumb in the dogs asshole and ushered him outside?
I get it, man. Relax. No dogs in the grocery....I'm good with it. LOL
Ushered him outside, yes. Obviously. When my dog is squatting to take a dump, if I pull on the leash, she moves and follows me and holds it until I let her stop again.
And I'm plenty relaxed. I'm making a statement on a message board. Should I not do that? What a weird call-out.
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Ushered him outside, yes. Obviously. When my dog is squatting to take a dump, if I pull on the leash, she moves and follows me and holds it until I let her stop again.
And I'm plenty relaxed. I'm making a statement on a message board. Should I not do that? What a weird call-out.
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One of my favorite movies.
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One of my favorite movies.
That wonderful movie was shot in Austin, Texas, by Mike Judge, a fine Austinite! :)
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Yep, his stuff has always landed well with me, from Office Space, to Beavis and Butthead, to King of the Hill. He gets me.
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I was never a big fan of Beavis and Butthead because it was the show all the stoners liked, and I've always had a pretty low opinion of stoners and stoner culture. Still, it can't be denied that the show produced some iconic lines and some iconic moments.
On the other hand, King of the Hill is great. It so perfectly captures suburban Texas culture in a bit of a satirical manner, without being ugly or mean-spirited.
And anyone who's ever worked in a cube farm, especially for a Tech company, has to appreciate Office Space.
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I got assigned to put out a weekly patent report when I was at work. It was easy because I had three folks in India doing most of the work, I just reformatted the cover page and emailed it. I called it "The Patent Summary Report".
Only one person ever commented on that, and I had over 100 recipients.
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And anyone who's ever worked in a cube farm, especially for a Tech company, has to appreciate Office Space.
Yep, we watched it frequently in college. I thought it was a great comedy.
Little did I know I was only a few years away from realizing it was a documentary.
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Yep, we watched it frequently in college. I thought it was a great comedy.
Little did I know I was only a few years away from realizing it was a documentary.
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one of my favorite movies
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Dentist appt at 10 AM. I don't like them. Just routine.
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Dentist appt at 10 AM. I don't like them. Just routine.
Yep. I grew up with a fat-fingered pediatric dentist. Why? Why would you do that to kids with kid-sized mouths??
And to make matters worse, I apparently have a high tolerance for Novocain--meaning it doesn't work effectively at "standard" dose.
So every time I was getting a cavity filled, and I'm white-knuckling it in the chair because I'm in searing pain, that bastard thought I was just being a baby and responding to the sound of the drill. No, you goddamned sadist, I'M IN PAIN because you didn't give me enough Novocain!
As an adult, I now have a dentist that understands this. If I need actual work done, they give me enough to make me not feel it. But there's long-term emotional scar tissue in there now...
So it makes me absolutely HATE going to the dentist, even for routine cleanings. I always make appointments as early in the morning as possible--ESPECIALLY if it's more than just routine cleaning. Because if I have it in the afternoon, I spend the entire day up until the appt in a combination of anxiety and seething anger.
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Yep. I grew up with a fat-fingered pediatric dentist. Why? Why would you do that to kids with kid-sized mouths??
And to make matters worse, I apparently have a high tolerance for Novocain--meaning it doesn't work effectively at "standard" dose.
So every time I was getting a cavity filled, and I'm white-knuckling it in the chair because I'm in searing pain, that bastard thought I was just being a baby and responding to the sound of the drill. No, you goddamned sadist, I'M IN PAIN because you didn't give me enough Novocain!
As an adult, I now have a dentist that understands this. If I need actual work done, they give me enough to make me not feel it. But there's long-term emotional scar tissue in there now...
So it makes me absolutely HATE going to the dentist, even for routine cleanings. I always make appointments as early in the morning as possible--ESPECIALLY if it's more than just routine cleaning. Because if I have it in the afternoon, I spend the entire day up until the appt in a combination of anxiety and seething anger.
Same here. I need like 4 times the amount of Novocain than most people.
And Xanax.
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cleanings are not pleasant for me but bearable
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So, funny story that includes an oral surgeon, which is close enough to a dentist in my mind.
In college I had to have my wisdom teeth removed. The bottom ones were hidden beneath the gums, and were something called "sideways bony-impacted" which meant it was more of an ordeal than just grabbing the pliers and yanking them out of there. In my pre-procedure appointment the guy gave me a prescription and instructions to take two percocets and three valiums about 30 minutes before arrival. I never took any drugs even remotely like that so my system was totally new to metabolizing them. Obviously someone had to drive me.
I lived about 30 minutes away, so I took the meds and me and my mom got on our way. About halfway there I noticed I began to feel drowsy, but it was nothing I couldn't handle, I thought. By the time I got there and mom let me out near the door before she parked, I could really feel the drowsiness as I tried to get out of the SUV and on my feet. I walked in, went to the window and signed in, and then went and sat down. After a minute or so the receptionist opened the little window thingy and called me back up to get papers to fill out. I tried to get up out of the waiting room chair.....and failed. It felt like a thousand pounds was weighing me down and my legs just couldn't do it. With great--and I mean great--effort and willpower, I managed to get up and go get the papers. I started filling them out and anxiously wondered how I was going to get up again, because I could feel it getting worse by the minute.
Then I had to pee. By that time mom was in the waiting room with me and she was able to help me up. Standing once I was up wasn't as bad, but getting myself up was nearly impossible. I turned in my paperwork and asked where the bathroom was. They brought me out of the waiting room and showed me the bathroom door. I walked in and prepared to do my business.
That was my last completely lucid memory.
The next thing I remembered was becoming semi-conscious, and I could hear the oral surgeon's voice talking to somebody. I was aware of jerking around inside my mouth, but I could tell everything was numb. I either didn't open my eyes or I couldn't see. It was just a brief moment of cognizance of my situation, and the last thing I remember thinking was "Oh, I guess they started. Well, I can't feel anything, I might as well go back to......."
After that, the next thing I remember was waking up in my bed, my mom was trying to shove some pudding in my mouth and telling me I needed to eat something. Groggily, I forced myself to wake up enough to ask her was it over, how did it go, and I guess I'm home already? She laughed and told me "That was yesterday morning. You slept the entire rest of the day, all night, and now it's noon the next day, and you need to wake up and eat."
I said that the last thing I remembered was going in the bathroom, and I didn't know what happened after that. She laughed again and said "Well. About that. You never came out, and you locked the door. They knocked and knocked on the door and called for you, but you didn't answer. So they had to get the key and let themselves in. They said you were slumped against the wall on the floor, hands on your knees, staring off into space. It took three nurses to get you up off the floor and into the room where he did the procedure."
I immediately wondered: Did I get my pants back up or was I just sitting there on the floor flashing the jewels for all to see?
I didn't ask, and to this day, I don't want to know.
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I was never a big fan of Beavis and Butthead because it was the show all the stoners liked, and I've always had a pretty low opinion of stoners and stoner culture. Still, it can't be denied that the show produced some iconic lines and some iconic moments.
On the other hand, King of the Hill is great. It so perfectly captures suburban Texas culture in a bit of a satirical manner, without being ugly or mean-spirited.
And anyone who's ever worked in a cube farm, especially for a Tech company, has to appreciate Office Space.
B&B came out when I was in 10th/11th grade (1993 IIRC) and it was a big hit with me and my peers (none of me or my friends were stoners).
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Lately, a lot of this:
Good morning, Team,
I hope this email finds you well.
AI generated garbage.
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I did not state or suggest that only stoners watched it.
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So you were unimpressed with CfA?
I've never been impressed. And I hate waffle fries.
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I've never been impressed. And I hate waffle fries.
I'm assuming this was supposed to be posted to the "Happy" thread. I see this website post to the wrong thread, occasionally.
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I copied it over to here, because Chick Fil A makes me grumpy, not happy.
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There are times "it" makes me happy to be grumpy.
We had not had CFA in over a year. I had chicken "tenders", which were decent, as expected. Somewhere along the way my AMEX went missing, I froze the account.
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Why would CfA make you grumpy? Can't you just... not eat it? Does someone force you to eat it against your will?
Personally I like it, and I love waffle fries.
But I don't care if anyone else eats it or not, it doesn't affect my life at all.
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What is the major fast food chain that would make you most grumpy were you forced to dine there?
Maybe you're starving and it's the only thing open for miles ...
I'd probably go with Taco Bell though I have not dined there in over a decade, maybe it's .... OK?
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CfA in my area is always crowded, very popular.
But, despite the crowds, and long drive thru lines, their service is usually impeccable. It's quite impressive to me, for a highly trafficked fast food joint. Mostly staffed by teens is even more impressive. And their food is pretty good to boot.
They apparently have a very successful system in place. I assume every other CfA is also a seamless operation.
I'm a fan, though I don't indulge very often.
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What is the major fast food chain that would make you most grumpy were you forced to dine there?
Maybe you're starving and it's the only thing open for miles ...
I'd probably go with Taco Bell though I have not dined there in over a decade, maybe it's .... OK?
Every McDonald's in my neck of the woods is a complete CF, so I'd probably go with them.
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We dine at fast food so rarely it's tough to say, it's usually while driving somewhere, and a McDs in one location can be far superior to one somewhere else (thought they try for consistency). The best thing about CFA is their service.
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Our kids like CfA, and we probably get it at least once per month. It's by far our most common fast food purchase.
I suppose Taco Bell would make me grumpy, were I somehow forced to consume it at gunpoint. Nothing on the menu tastes like the original analog to its fast-food version. The taco meat does not taste like real taco meat, the beans do not taste like real refried beans, and even the cheese does not taste like real cheese, at least not to me. It's all pseudo-food, faux food. It's weird.
That said, I ate a boat-load of it in college, because there was one near the engineering buildings where I often spent late nights in the lab or studying in the library, and because it was super-cheap. $0.59 menu meant I could get two tacos and two burritos for $2.36.
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As a freshman, I recall having breakfast fairly often at a Krystal which was across the street. My culinary tastes were, um, undeveloped, but I presume it was "OK". I took my wife to a Krystal once, we were traveling, and she asked me about it.
It would pretty near the bottom for me based on that one experience.
It's amazing to me how many KFCs I've seen in Asia, Copenhagen, Sweden, ...
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Our kids like CfA, and we probably get it at least once per month. It's by far our most common fast food purchase.
I suppose Taco Bell would make me grumpy, were I somehow forced to consume it at gunpoint. Nothing on the menu tastes like the original analog to its fast-food version. The taco meat does not taste like real taco meat, the beans do not taste like real refried beans, and even the cheese does not taste like real cheese, at least not to me. It's all pseudo-food, faux food. It's weird.
That said, I ate a boat-load of it in college, because there was one near the engineering buildings where I often spent late nights in the lab or studying in the library, and because it was super-cheap. $0.59 menu meant I could get two tacos and two burritos for $2.36.
It's drunk food. Along with Krystal's. And in that context -- I give both 5 stars.
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Krystal is like White Castle, right? So gross.
Maybe I've changed my mind. Being force-fed White Castle would make me REALLY grumpy.
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As a freshman, I recall having breakfast fairly often at a Krystal which was across the street. My culinary tastes were, um, undeveloped, but I presume it was "OK". I took my wife to a Krystal once, we were traveling, and she asked me about it.
It would pretty near the bottom for me based on that one experience.
It's amazing to me how many KFCs I've seen in Asia, Copenhagen, Sweden, ...
That Krystal breakfast bowl with a biscuit at the bottom, then sausage, then eggs, cheese, and topped with gravy......
That's some good eating, son.
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Krystal is like White Castle, right? So gross.
Maybe I've changed my mind. Being force-fed White Castle would make me REALLY grumpy.
Krystal is superior to White Castle, despite what the Yankees on this board will say.
Though as stated.....good 2:30 AM bender drive thru "grub". A sack of Bacon Cheese Krystals, and a chili/cheese fry. Hard to top. (unless you hit the Waffle House instead)
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I don't recall what Krystal offered for breakfast back then, it probably was ... simple.
My next two years I moved to a private dorm that had a cafeteria that had pretty good breakfasts. I ordered the same thing every morning, so the ladies would see me arrive and start cooking. By the time I had juice and coffee, my eggs were ready with grits and sausage.
A lot of the students didn't make it down for breakfast, even though it was included in the "rent". That was a pretty nice dorm really, it was coed for one thing, and the regular dorms were not.
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Fast food makes me grumpy
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Krystal is like White Castle, right? So gross.
Maybe I've changed my mind. Being force-fed White Castle would make me REALLY grumpy.
White Castle is the worst one that I've ever tried to eat. I've never had Krystal, but it's knock off White Castle. So it has to be worse. They don't even get the fries right.
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I did not state or suggest that only stoners watched it.
I didn’t say you did. But for my little slice of GenX it was very popular.
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What a strange reason anyway to not like something or ignore it. I like or don't like stuff based on my proclivity toward it, not based on whether or not I like/dislike or agree/disagree with some other group that likes something.
B&B came out when I was in about 8th grade or so. If it was juvenile, it would make sense that it still had an appeal to me.
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I'm in the middle of a round of medical tests and it's wearing thin. Both taking time off of work and just the hassle of it all. The older I get, the more like my dad I get.....I don't like going to the doctor, if something's going on, I don't want to know and I don't think "they" can fix it most of the time anyway. Whatever happens, I'm probably fine, and if I'm not, oh well. Unfortunately I'm not willing to put up with the clash with Mrs. DeT that would entail.
While testing for something else unrelated, a radiologist recommended another imaging to get more info on something he thought he maybe saw. After an ultrasound more info was confirmed and a final CT was recommended and a referral back to urology, where he'll take the CT results and decide what to do. I have a mass on my right kidney, which is the concern. I also have a bunch of nodules on my thyroid, so now I have to go to endocrinology too.
My wife says the possible scenarios at this time for the kidney are 1) it's cancer--it has to come out (surgery), 2) it's benign, but vascular--it has to come out (surgery), 3) it's benign and basically just a bunch of fat tissue or something that might not hurt anything--it doesn't have to come out, or at least I have the reasonable option to leave it alone. She says re: the thyroid, it's probably nothing, but Endo needs to biopsy it anyway to be sure it's not cancer, in which case they'll just probably leave it alone and monitor for changes.
I don't hurt, my kidney function is great, my thyroid function is great, I would rather ignore it all until something changes, and as I said, I'm tired of testing and dr. appointments. But, my doc recommends against doing nothing, and as mentioned, my wife is kinda up my arse about this. Plus my mom is always wanting updates (I didn't tell her anything, the wife did that) and doesn't listen when I tell her it's probably nothing, and wants to know when she can tell dad and my sister, etc. I'm like "Um....whenever there's something to actually tell. There's just a big ball of nothing at the moment, and it's likely to stay nothing. There's no indications so far any of this is anything serious." But at any rate, I don't want them worried, I don't want them fussing over me, I don't want them calling me trying to talk about it. Lolz, ok, well, my dad will never call to "talk about it," or talk about much of anything, but still.
AND, I just had an old man surgery just three months ago, by which I mean I had to have a procedure done that is typically something only more elderly men have to deal with. That was a bunch of appointments, nearly a week off work, and it just puts me way out of the mood for any of this.
Yes, I'm grumpy about it. The constant appointments and the fussing by the wife/mom. Thus, I'm venting here. God forbid I ever actually get sick because I'm using all my accumulated sick time on these damn appointments.
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I'm in the middle of a round of medical tests and it's wearing thin. Both taking time off of work and just the hassle of it all. The older I get, the more like my dad I get.....I don't like going to the doctor, if something's going on, I don't want to know and I don't think "they" can fix it most of the time anyway. Whatever happens, I'm probably fine, and if I'm not, oh well. Unfortunately I'm not willing to put up with the clash with Mrs. DeT that would entail.
While testing for something else unrelated, a radiologist recommended another imaging to get more info on something he thought he maybe saw. After an ultrasound more info was confirmed and a final CT was recommended and a referral back to urology, where he'll take the CT results and decide what to do. I have a mass on my right kidney, which is the concern. I also have a bunch of nodules on my thyroid, so now I have to go to endocrinology too.
My wife says the possible scenarios at this time for the kidney are 1) it's cancer--it has to come out (surgery), 2) it's benign, but vascular--it has to come out (surgery), 3) it's benign and basically just a bunch of fat tissue or something that might not hurt anything--it doesn't have to come out, or at least I have the reasonable option to leave it alone. She says re: the thyroid, it's probably nothing, but Endo needs to biopsy it anyway to be sure it's not cancer, in which case they'll just probably leave it alone and monitor for changes.
I don't hurt, my kidney function is great, my thyroid function is great, I would rather ignore it all until something changes, and as I said, I'm tired of testing and dr. appointments. But, my doc recommends against doing nothing, and as mentioned, my wife is kinda up my arse about this. Plus my mom is always wanting updates (I didn't tell her anything, the wife did that) and doesn't listen when I tell her it's probably nothing, and wants to know when she can tell dad and my sister, etc. I'm like "Um....whenever there's something to actually tell. There's just a big ball of nothing at the moment, and it's likely to stay nothing. There's no indications so far any of this is anything serious." But at any rate, I don't want them worried, I don't want them fussing over me, I don't want them calling me trying to talk about it. Lolz, ok, well, my dad will never call to "talk about it," or talk about much of anything, but still.
AND, I just had an old man surgery just three months ago, by which I mean I had to have a procedure done that is typically something only more elderly men have to deal with. That was a bunch of appointments, nearly a week off work, and it just puts me way out of the mood for any of this.
Yes, I'm grumpy about it. The constant appointments and the fussing by the wife/mom. Thus, I'm venting here. God forbid I ever actually get sick because I'm using all my accumulated sick time on these damn appointments.
Welp, get better bud !
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I don't hurt, my kidney function is great, my thyroid function is great, I would rather ignore it all until something changes, and as I said, I'm tired of testing and dr. appointments. But, my doc recommends against doing nothing, and as mentioned, my wife is kinda up my arse about this.
Yeah, I know you don't want to hear it, but the problem with anything that "might" be cancer is that by the time you start feeling like something is wrong, it's typically a lot harder to deal with.
Plus my mom is always wanting updates (I didn't tell her anything, the wife did that) and doesn't listen when I tell her it's probably nothing, and wants to know when she can tell dad and my sister, etc. I'm like "Um....whenever there's something to actually tell. There's just a big ball of nothing at the moment, and it's likely to stay nothing. There's no indications so far any of this is anything serious." But at any rate, I don't want them worried, I don't want them fussing over me, I don't want them calling me trying to talk about it.
THIS I understand lol... I don't need to talk to people to deal with my stuff, and so I absolutely HATE when people are brought into my business and then they want to be constantly informed.
Of course, I also then berate my parents when they'll have something happen like my mom going into the hospital and they don't tell ANY of us that it's going on until she's out. My wife is on my case because I'm going to start up with new primary care doc and she wants me to find out what kind of cancer my dad had--that I didn't know about until years after the fact, and only heard about from thirdhand from my sister.
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What a strange reason anyway to not like something or ignore it. I like or don't like stuff based on my proclivity toward it, not based on whether or not I like/dislike or agree/disagree with some other group that likes something.
B&B came out when I was in about 8th grade or so. If it was juvenile, it would make sense that it still had an appeal to me.
Let me be clear-- I think it's stupid and juvenile, which is standard for typical stoner humor. I don't dislike it solely because it appeals to stoners, other than stupid and juvenile stuff tends to appeal to stoners, and I don't like that kind of humor.
I also don't like the Cheech and Chong movies, because they are also stupid and juvenile.
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Yeah, I know you don't want to hear it, but the problem with anything that "might" be cancer is that by the time you start feeling like something is wrong, it's typically a lot harder to deal with.
Yeah, yeah..... Just let me complain like a grumpy old man, will ya? :)
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Let me be clear-- I think it's stupid and juvenile, which is standard for typical stoner humor. I don't dislike it solely because it appeals to stoners, other than stupid and juvenile stuff tends to appeal to stoners, and I don't like that kind of humor.
I also don't like the Cheech and Chong movies, because they are also stupid and juvenile.
I have to admit, if I wasn't in that narrow window of older teenager/early 20's I probably wouldn't have liked it either. As I age, I re-watch some of the old stuff, and some of the new stuff and I pick up on subtle things that I may have missed as a 15/16 year old. The writing on some episodes is incredibly good. A lot of the really good stuff from B&B is pretty directly exported to KoTH, including Hank Hill being almost a carbon copy of Mr. Anderson. The bit about the hippy high school teacher and his dorky ways is pretty funny as well.
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I have to admit, if I wasn't in that narrow window of older teenager/early 20's I probably wouldn't have liked it either. As I age, I re-watch some of the old stuff, and some of the new stuff and I pick up on subtle things that I may have missed as a 15/16 year old. The writing on some episodes is incredibly good. A lot of the really good stuff from B&B is pretty directly exported to KoTH, including Hank Hill being almost a carbon copy of Mr. Anderson. The bit about the hippy high school teacher and his dorky ways is pretty funny as well.
Yeah I really like KotH, possibly because it distills a lot of the good stuff, and omits a lot of the juvenile and stupid stuff, from B&B.
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B&B is one of the dumbest, low IQ, idiotic shows ever produced. And why it was on MTV, no doubt.
I was drinking and stoning back then, but still wasn't that low brow.
Also, it was hugely popular (a fad), everyone quoted it non-stop, to the point of making me sick. I generally zig, when everyone else is zagging, so there is that.
I am in the correct thread, right?
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Let me be clear-- I think it's stupid and juvenile, which is standard for typical stoner humor. I don't dislike it solely because it appeals to stoners, other than stupid and juvenile stuff tends to appeal to stoners, and I don't like that kind of humor.
I also don't like the Cheech and Chong movies, because they are also stupid and juvenile.
I figured you probably had other reasons such as these for not liking it. Your post just didn't read that way, so I wasn't sure.
For me, there's a distinction between stupid and juvenile stoner mentality, and something that makes fun of stupid and juvenile stoner mentality via satire. I considered Beavis and Butthead the latter, but obviously one's mileage can vary. It clearly made use of stupid and juvenile humor, so if one does not make a distinction, I can see that. I thought it was done in service to mocking kids like that, so it struck a different chord for me.
I actually never saw a whole Cheech and Chong movie, so I can't comment on those.
It's kinda like Breaking Bad, which we previously discussed in the movies/tv thread. My brother-in-law used to work at a drug rehab center in DFW and he says all the guys there just loved Walter White and viewed him as some sort of hero. I thought it was obvious the show was trying to show how little there was redeemable about the guy, and ultimately how those life choices lead to terrible things. But the show did indeed present him as some law-breaking DGAF guy, and those guys apparently saw the same show and thought it was presenting something you're supposed to endorse or look up to. I thought it was presenting something you're supposed to despise. Either way, it definitely made use of the aspiring drug-kingpin character and so it's interesting to note how different people viewed it.
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Yeah I understood what Breaking Bad was trying to do, I just had no interest in watching them do it.
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Personally I am not sure what is wrong with most of y'all's taste buds. I love downing a sack of white castles. I don't get to do it too often because their isn't one near me, but when one of my football games takes me near I have been know to stop on the way home.
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Personally I am not sure what is wrong with most of y'all's taste buds. I love downing a sack of white castles. I don't get to do it too often because their isn't one near me, but when one of my football games takes me near I have been know to stop on the way home.
I think it's the texture, which is slightly more awful than the taste, of them. They're really disgusting.
They make McDonald's burgers taste like a gourmet meal by comparison.
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Yeah I really like KotH, possibly because it distills a lot of the good stuff, and omits a lot of the juvenile and stupid stuff, from B&B.
Plus, KotH has Boomhauer.
And also, to this day, anytime I hear the word "butane" I quote Bobby Hill, "My daddy says butane is a bastard gas," whether or not people around me get the joke or not.
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A lot of people don't care for the steamed bun on the White Castle/Krystal.
It gets a little damp/wettish.
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Yup
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Yeah I really like KotH, possibly because it distills a lot of the good stuff, and omits a lot of the juvenile and stupid stuff, from B&B.
I think even Mike Judd said back in the day that he never intended B&B to go on very long, maybe 1-2 seasons until it got as big as it did. I think it ended up going 5 seasons originally and he took it off the air and went straight into KoTH.
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Plus, KotH has Boomhauer.
And also, to this day, anytime I hear the word "butane" I quote Bobby Hill, "My daddy says butane is a bastard gas," whether or not people around me get the joke or not.
Do you do it in your best HH accent?
"Bobby, if you weren't my son, I'd hug you".
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I'm headed to Cincy end of August, hope to have a chance at some real chili while I'm there.
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"20 rat burgers, hold the tails"
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Do you do it in your best HH accent?
"Bobby, if you weren't my son, I'd hug you".
I do it in my best Bobby accent.
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I laughed at the first couple Cheech & Chong movies
never saw Bevis
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I'm in the middle of a round of medical tests and it's wearing thin. Both taking time off of work and just the hassle of it all. The older I get, the more like my dad I get.....I don't like going to the doctor, if something's going on, I don't want to know and I don't think "they" can fix it most of the time anyway. Whatever happens, I'm probably fine, and if I'm not, oh well. Unfortunately I'm not willing to put up with the clash with Mrs. DeT that would entail.
While testing for something else unrelated, a radiologist recommended another imaging to get more info on something he thought he maybe saw. After an ultrasound more info was confirmed and a final CT was recommended and a referral back to urology, where he'll take the CT results and decide what to do. I have a mass on my right kidney, which is the concern. I also have a bunch of nodules on my thyroid, so now I have to go to endocrinology too.
My wife says the possible scenarios at this time for the kidney are 1) it's cancer--it has to come out (surgery), 2) it's benign, but vascular--it has to come out (surgery), 3) it's benign and basically just a bunch of fat tissue or something that might not hurt anything--it doesn't have to come out, or at least I have the reasonable option to leave it alone. She says re: the thyroid, it's probably nothing, but Endo needs to biopsy it anyway to be sure it's not cancer, in which case they'll just probably leave it alone and monitor for changes.
I don't hurt, my kidney function is great, my thyroid function is great, I would rather ignore it all until something changes, and as I said, I'm tired of testing and dr. appointments. But, my doc recommends against doing nothing, and as mentioned, my wife is kinda up my arse about this. Plus my mom is always wanting updates (I didn't tell her anything, the wife did that) and doesn't listen when I tell her it's probably nothing, and wants to know when she can tell dad and my sister, etc. I'm like "Um....whenever there's something to actually tell. There's just a big ball of nothing at the moment, and it's likely to stay nothing. There's no indications so far any of this is anything serious." But at any rate, I don't want them worried, I don't want them fussing over me, I don't want them calling me trying to talk about it. Lolz, ok, well, my dad will never call to "talk about it," or talk about much of anything, but still.
AND, I just had an old man surgery just three months ago, by which I mean I had to have a procedure done that is typically something only more elderly men have to deal with. That was a bunch of appointments, nearly a week off work, and it just puts me way out of the mood for any of this.
Yes, I'm grumpy about it. The constant appointments and the fussing by the wife/mom. Thus, I'm venting here. God forbid I ever actually get sick because I'm using all my accumulated sick time on these damn appointments.
With no wife to nag me into it, I'm avoiding all this. I know that if I go in and get a thorough exam, 3-4 things will be wrong/concerning, and I'll get to have a host of appointments and "maybes" and "probably nothings." Or I have like 3 different types of cancer. That's where I feel like most of us end up, anyway.
To have had only a high ankle sprain, an ear infection, and plantar faciitis in one foot is pretty good health for the last 25 years.
But I also still eat like a college student and don't exercise. So while my visual body has been fine, my internals are probably a mess.
Get all you've had looked at looked at closer. Might as well, you've dipped your toe in. Shit, it's 2025, and they can't do better than "there's a mass on your kidney?" Seems to me whatever found that is a waste of time and they should just start with whatever's next, for any kind of precision.
Anyway, I hope all is well.
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Krystal is superior to White Castle, despite what the Yankees on this board will say.
It's the same.
It's 80% bread.
There is no need to romanticize fast food.
Not with posts here, not with a movie.
That being said, I was wanting something I hadn't had in a long time, and was going to go to White Castle tonight....but the only locations are all on the edges of the Phoenix area. I'm in the middle bit. So I went somewhere else.
Both Krystal and WC sell you 15% cheaper burgers so they can provide you with 20% less meat. That's really all it is.
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My neighbor tells me he is basically recovered from his prostate treatment (proton therapy). He still has to have his PSA monitored, but he is feeling normal now.
I seem to be doing OK. I'm not drinking a bottle of wine plus every night at least. I swim most days, a little, and run or throw or go to the gym nearly every day. I still have that belly fat accumulated over decades.
I started taking a multivitamin though I probably don't need it.
The heat thing outside is ebbing some, it was hotter in the NE than here though. My step daughter was complaining to her mom about how hot it is in Marseille where it gets tough because they don't have AC generally speaking.
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my doc suggested a multivitamin would be a good thing
I took one for a year or so. I should probably get another bottle - wouldn't hurt me
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Cardiologist appointment at 11AM. Film at 11PM.
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I have an annual physical with full work up. Colonoscopy every 5 years (due this year). Take a multivitamin, 500 IU of Vitamin E and 1000mg of vitamin C every day. I have a few chronic things, Gout (take a pill to help prevent flareups), Acid Reflex (take prescription priloec) and glaucoma (3 different eye drops at various time during the day, Lost almost no vision so far because it was caught very early). But everything seems to be good every year, low PSA, etc. But I have known too many people who don't get checkups and find out they are very ill or dying when if they had just had regular checkups it could have been caught before it became terminal. Regular physicals aren't perfect but for a once a year hour or two quite worth it.
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As I mentioned once, I haven't had a checkup since before COVID. My company had sponsored an on-site health clinic which made it really convenient to schedule, since all I had to do was walk up two flights of stairs from my office. I really liked the doctor there; he was very thorough and would take the time to really sit with you--my annual checkup appts were typically a full hour. They even offered services like PT which was useful after I sprained my wrist in late 2015... But then COVID showed up, nobody was going to the office, and so it didn't make sense to continue with the clinic.
But I finally have the names of two doctors recommended, that are in network, so I'm going to call one of them today and try to establish as my new primary care doctor and get my checkup scheduled.
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I went for many years with no checkup, no doctor visit for me at all. I had a run in with our insurance, imagine that, with one of my kids' treatments. Nobody at the insurance could explain why something wasn't covered when clearly it was listed to be covered.
So, in a bit of a pique I quit going. I took my kids as needed, and didn't have any more bad run ins. My wife can be a bit of a nag about stuff like this, imagine that, so when we moved here I found a pretty good MD I go to once a year. Mostly I want to look at my blood numbers. I'm reading oral health may be important for more than your teeth also.
I wish I could lose weight better than I am, it seems clingy.
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Get all you've had looked at looked at closer. Might as well, you've dipped your toe in. Shit, it's 2025, and they can't do better than "there's a mass on your kidney?" Seems to me whatever found that is a waste of time and they should just start with whatever's next, for any kind of precision.
Anyway, I hope all is well.
Thanks.
It's an insurance thing, and I can't tell if it makes sense to me because it actually makes sense or because I used to go through all this for patients when I worked at a clinic. I guess my wife would be much better equipped to answer the first part. The insurance companies won't approve certain tests without certain conditions or until other tests have been done first. What happened in this case was a CT of my chest caught just enough of down where my kidney is that the radiologist thought there might be something there to look closer at, but the CT was of the wrong area to really know for sure. When that happens, a lot of times you have to do an ultrasound first, insurance won't just jump straight to paying for another CT. If an ultrasound confirms a problem, a CT may be recommended to gather more information.
Given the vast differences in costs between various types of imaging tests, I guess I get it. For example, we'd catch breast cancer like gangbusters and basically never miss if women had MRI's. But, the reality is, mammograms are actually pretty good (just not as good as MRIs) and they're so much cheaper, and insurance won't pay for MRIs when mammograms are a thing.
For my ethics presentation as part of my capstone, I did a presentation on AI in radiology. In researching it I learned that soon AI could reduce time (and therefore cost) on MRIs to the point where they could become more financially feasible for more circumstances. BUT....I'm not holding my breath, where business, profit, and especially medical guidelines are concerned, which are like trying to push on a glacier to make it move faster.
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Of course grumpy old man time... So I haven't been to the doc in 6 years.
My wife has been telling me for years now that I should go. But... She works in a medical office, and she has ideas on who I should or shouldn't go to since my previous PCP is no longer available. I got a recommendation from a retired coworker, and that doctor isn't accepting new patients. So I started doing my own research and sent my wife some of the names--this might have been as long as a year ago, and all I got back was "No" lol... So I told her--"okay, you pick".
Which she finally did--she gave me three names about a week and a half ago, and I just started looking at it yesterday. After she'd chided me a few days ago about having done nothing with the names.
So I narrow it down and pick one, telling her I'm going to call today about establishing as a new patient. And what I get back from my anxious wife is...
"Why are you on this so much all of a sudden? Are you ok?"
Ummm... :smiley_confused1:
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Yup.
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...this might have been as long as a year ago...
Which she finally did--she gave me three names about a week and a half ago, and I just started looking at it yesterday. After she'd chided me a few days ago about having done nothing with the names.
This checks out.
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Of course, she gave me three names in order of her preference. I eliminated #2 because he didn't show up on my insurance website as in network--and his head shot made him look like a complete meathead.
Called #1--he's not accepting new patients. GRR...
But got set up with #3, so I'll get to go in mid-August, get my check-up, and have him tell me that everything except my liver is in good working order.
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Milk Thistle is a good friend for the liver.
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Milk Thistle is a good friend for the liver.
So is Knob Creek.
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My go to. Nothing fancy but smooth and consistent.
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Our new next door neighbors came over the other night when I hosted a party at the house and I served BBQ brisket and ribs. They're really nice, younger couple with a 4-year-old daughter, and they've brought us over wine on a couple of occasions. But after they got here and we were drinking some bourbon, the husband said he had a bottle of whiskey he wanted to bring over. So he runs back home for a second, then comes back into our backyard, and he's carrying this:
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I've had some Japanese whiskeys before and liked them, but this one was really, REALLY good. It was about 3/4 full when he brought it over but the 8 adults that were present, went through that thing in less than an hour. Later after they left, my i s c & a aggie wife looked it up, and discovered it was something like a $180 bottle. And man it tastes like it.
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My liver enzymes were slightly elevated at my 2021 physical. My PCP said everyone drank more than they should during COVID, and largely ignored it.
They were even higher in 2022, but still not concerning.
Then in 2023, my blood pressure and cholesterol had spiked, but I had also gained like 40 lbs. Nothing about my lifestyle had changed, but they put me on a statin. Solved the blood pressure, but it spiked my liver enzymes off the chart. I've had liver issues ever since, and just got a biopsy last week. I don't like to bother my parents with medical things, but felt like I should let her know about that. She then brought up that when my dad switched jobs in 1987 and had blood tests, they told him he had the liver of a lifelong alcoholic at age 32. But he didn't drink at all, because his dad drank himself to death. So at that point they just wrote it off, because every liver issue was written off as alcoholism, or the liver wasn't checked when you died from heart diesease.
Well, once I got diagnosed, talked to my siblings, they got checked, and 3/4 of us have faulty livers. And its getting tested more regularly because lots of unhealthy habits test it. In previous generations is was just alcohol, because we didn't eat the shit we do now. They also set me up with a dietician that makes easy changes. We eat more fried food in general, but we also eat out more, and the cheap side is chips or fries. Paying the extra $1 for broccoli or a baked potato is an easy change. But men are drinking less than they did in previous generations, but we are seeing MORE liver issues.
Funny thing was that the weight gain was liver related, and they treated it like a symptom, not a cause
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Jeez. That's rough ELA.
I take milk thistle and this stuff. Liver numbers are always good.
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Sorry to hear @ELA (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=55) -- at least I know if I have liver problems they're self-induced...
But that does bring up one thing. I think I have elevated blood pressure. Which is odd b/c I work out a lot and generally eat well. Although by BMI I'm technically obese, I'm obese in the same way that an NFL player is obese--I have abnormally high muscle mass.
I'm not sure, though, if my BP is high enough to warrant doing something about it. It might just be high enough that it's something we watch rather than address... But I also have an essential tremor. A beta blocker is usually used for BP. And one of the side effects of a beta blocker is that it keeps a tremor in check. And apparently also improves your golf game... Which I need a lot of improvement there.
Soooo... We'll see.
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Why are you guys posting booze on here? That's for the happy thread.
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But men are drinking less than they did in previous generations, but we are seeing MORE liver issues.
Funny thing was that the weight gain was liver related, and they treated it like a symptom, not a cause
Evidently a lot of that has to do with the Big Food Empire putting manufactured everything instead of natural means and it's went unchecked for quite some time. One of the holistic Drs online suggest getting unpasturized,organic apple cider vinegar and sauerkraut/Kimchi for digestive tract health.I've been trying the ACV 4oz in morning and night and feel pretty good.I mix it with spring water but make sure you rinse your mouth good after because of the acid effect on tooth enamel if you choose to try it . I'll be getting a wellness check and blood test with in a month. Diet change is a biggy along with keep on moving
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https://twitter.com/eatinerni/status/1939043192130634042?s=46&t=EHozF964Pc_xZmTZKPCcEA
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Nothing grumpy about sauerkraut/Kimchi or skyline chili coney
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I went to the gym three days in a row and I’m feeling creaky as hell.
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I've had some Japanese whiskeys before and liked them, but this one was really, REALLY good. It was about 3/4 full when he brought it over but the 8 adults that were present, went through that thing in less than an hour. Later after they left, my i s c & a aggie wife looked it up, and discovered it was something like a $180 bottle. And man it tastes like it.
Sounds like this goes in the What Made You Happy thread.
Also.....those neighbors are trying way too hard to get you to like them. I'm suspicious.
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I went to the gym three days in a row and I’m feeling creaky as hell.
I was out running earlier and recallling how "back in the day" I could get in pretty good shape in a week. I could go from sedentary to running pretty well in a few days, it was easy.
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I have a terrible headache.
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That stupid CT was with both oral and IV contrast, for some reason. I thought it would just be IV. That means it took considerably longer, and I had to down 30+ oz of barium and my mouth tastes like iodine for the next few hours (that's the IV contrast, not the oral).
Not the most pleasant stuff to drink. I told a co-worker a while ago that if I suddenly left, I'm not being rude or uninterested in what she's saying (tho I am), it's that I'm running for a toilet or a sink to yak.
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We have a place for building residents to post information, requests, etc. Some DUDE just posted he wanted a recommendation for a "licensed handyman" to replace his fridge filter and furnace filter.
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I could see wanting help replacing a fridge or a furnace...
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I'd want more than help. I have a "furnace guy" fortunately who installed our latest heat pump. I couldn't have done it.
I can handle swapping out filters.
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Hmm.
If that's the trajectory we're headed down, I might be able to make it as a handyman.
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I'm trying to picture somebody here posting in the DIY thread "changed a 'fridge filter this weekend."
I'd like to think Drew would auto-ban him.
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My wife changes the fridge and A/C filters.
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Some of the fridge filters I have done in the past were literally behind the fridge and you had to move it. I can see somebody who is elderly not being able to get back there and get it apart. Mine you need tools to disconnect the lines.
For the HVAC filter there are some that are built into the unit that are in the attic or other hard to reach place. Same issue with elderly etc.
There may also be a warranty issue involved where they are needing to get the work done by somebody licensed to preserve for warranty purposes.
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My wife changes the fridge and A/C filters.
They have filters?
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They have filters?
Yup, water filter for water and ice on the fridge, and return air filters on the return air ducts on the A/C units.
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I forgot to add a smiley, and your sarcasm meter is broken.
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I forgot to add a smiley, and your sarcasm meter is broken.
I thought you were just highlighting your wealth and how you are above dealing with such things, unlike us dirty unwashed huddled masses...
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This thread creates pressure to have an unpleasant experience to justify a grumpy frame of mind.
I find that discriminatory.
What if I just have a general disposition of minor grumpiness today for no apparent reason? In fact, it could be said that not having a particular reason is precisely what makes one an excellent grump (and I'm old enough, I guess, ergo, a grumpy old man).
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my doc suggested a multivitamin would be a good thing
I took one for a year or so. I should probably get another bottle - wouldn't hurt me
Nah put the money into used driving range balls - hot tip for the week
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I don't spend time at the driving range - the bev cart doesn't drive over there
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Yup, water filter for water and ice on the fridge, and return air filters on the return air ducts on the A/C units.
this implies you have a fancy fridge with ice/water on the door
up in the great white north the same return air duct goes into the furnace/AC
my furnace filter is a monster - 20x25x5 - costs a stoopid amount of money - and with the workmanship of the tinwork/sheet metal work under the furnace is a bitch to change.
makes me damned grumpy every 6 months!!!!
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My wife wants the water and air filters in the fridge changed any time the light lights. I don't think they do much of anything myself, especially the air filter. The standard water filter is nearly $50 but I did find an off brand that is about $20. It's easy to change, the air filter requires a minor contortion, or emptying half the fridge.
Our HVACs were behind a rather heavy "door" that I had to wrestle away from the mountings to change the air filters. We had a guy doing some work and I asked him to mount the door on hinges, problem solved. Now they just open easy as Pi. The guy was depopcorning our lower level offices, which still had the old ceilings. We weren't around for that fortunately. They did clean up pretty much.
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Both the air and water filter are pretty easily accessible in our fridge. I think it's a Samsung. I don't know the recommended amount of time to change them, but it claims to be "smart" and it tells us when to change them. It's only claimed it needed its filters changed once in owning it about 3 years now. I bought a 3-pack of each, so two of each are just sitting in the box collecting dust. Don't know when I'll ever use them.
The two biggest problems we have with the fridge are:
1) it's design makes it not-ideal for the space it sits in. I tried to argue my wife out of that model for that very reason, but guess who was adamant and who decided to let it go. Consequently the situation is exactly what I said it would be and the left door won't open correctly and it annoys the hell out of me. Amazingly, she doesn't care at all. She wanted that model and it doesn't seem to phase her that one door is half useless.
2) the pest control guys had to install a bath-trap in the wall by the fridge because the other side of that wall is where the guest bath is. Every time they come to spray I have to move the fridge completely out so they can get to it and then put it back in. I don't think it would be so bad if the kitchen floor were flat, but the tile is textured, so items with rollers such as the fridge don't just go where you want them to without a lot more force and finagling.
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Both the air and water filter are pretty easily accessible in our fridge. I think it's a Samsung. I don't know the recommended amount of time to change them, but it claims to be "smart" and it tells us when to change them. It's only claimed it needed its filters changed once in owning it about 3 years now. I bought a 3-pack of each, so two of each are just sitting in the box collecting dust. Don't know when I'll ever use them.
The two biggest problems we have with the fridge are:
1) it's design makes it not-ideal for the space it sits in. I tried to argue my wife out of that model for that very reason, but guess who was adamant and who decided to let it go. Consequently the situation is exactly what I said it would be and the left door won't open correctly and it annoys the hell out of me. Amazingly, she doesn't care at all. She wanted that model and it doesn't seem to phase her that one door is half useless.
2) the pest control guys had to install a bath-trap in the wall by the fridge because the other side of that wall is where the guest bath is. Every time they come to spray I have to move the fridge completely out so they can get to it and then put it back in. I don't think it would be so bad if the kitchen floor were flat, but the tile is textured, so items with rollers such as the fridge don't just go where you want them to without a lot more force and finagling.
We have a Samsung with "French" doors too. Filter is a piece of cake.
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I had no idea refrigerators had air filters.
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hope mine doesn't
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Most new fridges have air filters, I don't think they do much of anything.
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this implies you have a fancy fridge with ice/water on the door
up in the great white north the same return air duct goes into the furnace/AC
my furnace filter is a monster - 20x25x5 - costs a stoopid amount of money - and with the workmanship of the tinwork/sheet metal work under the furnace is a bitch to change.
makes me damned grumpy every 6 months!!!!
I just have the company that services my a/c and furnace every 6 months change out all my filters. And I have a null filter in my fridge because I have r/o water sent to my ice maker, so when the water softerner and r/o system is serviced once a year it is handled.
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I looked into an R/O system for here. Man, those waste a lot of water.
We have a softener and a Halo system.
Definitely not on par with Lake Michigan water, but not as bad as it was when we moved in.
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R/O water tastes awful unless it blends back in some salts.
The city water here is fine with me. The bedrock is granite, not limestone, so the hardness is pretty low. I don't taste the chlorine.
Our big problem is old water mains.
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Out of sight out of mind - until it bursts
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R/O water tastes awful unless it blends back in some salts.
The city water here is fine with me. The bedrock is granite, not limestone, so the hardness is pretty low. I don't taste the chlorine.
Our big problem is old water mains.
Water here is very hard.
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A VERY different map, making me grumpy:
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Horrible H20: Why Does Florida Have Hard Water? | Smart Cities Dive (https://www.smartcitiesdive.com/ex/sustainablecitiescollective/horrible-h20-why-does-florida-have-hard-water/214786/)
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I'm grumpy from thinking about the $15K I spent to have mediocre water (major upgrade from terrible).
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I was unaware Florida had hard water, and I used to work on laundry detergents back in the day.
I learn things here often.
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I use RO to prepare brewing water. That was a pretty solid change to beer quality.
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I sell and install water softeners as part of my business. Most of our groundwater is 7-10 grains, but we can also have iron. We also have wells with 20 grains or more.
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buy in the 10lb chubs
at less the 1lb tubes
they charge a lot to make nice patties
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The variation in water hardness throughout Iowa influences not only the taste and aesthetics of the water but also the efficiency of soaps and detergents, plumbing maintenance, and the lifespan of appliances that utilize water. Given the state’s geological diversity, water hardness is not uniform, highlighting the need for localized water treatment solutions and ongoing monitoring of water quality.
In the provided data, the water hardness levels show substantial variations across different cities in Iowa. Among the cities for which data is reported, the highest water hardness level is recorded in Hiawatha with a hardness of 291.0 ppm, 17.0 gpg. Conversely, the city with the lowest recorded water hardness level is Iowa City, reporting a hardness of 107.5 ppm, 6.3 gpg.
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Our TDS was 440. Now it's 180. I could get it lower with an RO system added on to what I already have.
It's 100 out of the fridge, which is what we drink.
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Our TDS was 440. Now it's 180. I could get it lower with an RO system added on to what I already have.
It's 100 out of the fridge, which is what we drink.
TDS usually runs 800-1200 here on well water.
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I was used to less than 50.
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TDS usually runs 800-1200 here on well water.
That's what it is here before it comes out of the treatment plant.
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92% IMHO is a terrible burger. Too lean.
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92% IMHO is a terrible burger. Too lean.
Yes, it's OK for spaghetti etc.
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92% IMHO is a terrible burger. Too lean.
You know what I went through last year.
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You know what I went through last year.
True. Hoping I never need the same.
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It still hurts, 7 months in. You don't want this.
92 is fine in a cast iron skillet. Can't grill it.
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My wife likes to watch the local weather report before we sleep, I check it on line, get'er done. But, dude or dudette stands in front of green screen map and runs through half the temperatures in the area that vary by .... 1-2°F. Oh, it's 88°F in Griffin, 87°F in Winder, 86°F in Cumming, and up in the mountains, 82°F in Blairsville. No kidding.
Folks it's high 80s around the metro area, done. Tomorrow it may rain and it'll be hot. Back to you Skip for sports.
"Thanks, Ernie, in sports news, the Braves lost, again, they now have lost 12 of their last 9 games."
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It's really hot here. Feels like 110+. The air is very wet.
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Dew point here is 70°F which is my check point, anything past that is unpleasant.
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74 here. Brutal.
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LOL I watched this exact forecast this morning. Usually there is another weather chick, Chita, that I watch every day. I have no idea what the weather will be, but I watch. This weather chick, Kim, is quite nice too.
Not quite true though, because my business is so weather dependent.
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It's really hot here. Feels like 110+. The air is very wet.
Got to admit, I was out at the golf course this morning and the heat actually got to me. I quit after 17 holes. I was surprised, it hasn't happened before, even when it has been over 100. It is currently over 100 degrees.
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Age catches up.
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Got to admit, I was out at the golf course this morning and the heat actually got to me. I quit after 17 holes. I was surprised, it hasn't happened before, even when it has been over 100. It is currently over 100 degrees.
>:( were you walking?
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Speaking of high temperatures, for my money she's eligible for the hotties thread.
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>:( were you walking?
Hell no
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74 here. Brutal.
Dew point is 75 here right now. And when I walk outside, sadly, I catch myself thinking "Hey, it's not bad out here today."
I, for one, could use some climate change.
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Hell no
some days it just hits different
I try to stay hydrated - if I'm not watering the fairway regularly, I drink faster
I felt the heat more than usual one day last weekend on the course - the humidity was brutal, only mid-80s for the temp
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Speaking of high temperatures, for my money she's eligible for the hotties thread.
Seems that's par for the course with weather chicks. And the ones in the morning all look like they're dressed for the club too...
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Speaking of high temperatures, for my money she's eligible for the hotties thread.
She’s definitely pretty, but kinda has a horse face. But I wouldn’t kick her out of bed unless she wanted to do it on the floor. 🤣
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most men don't
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How much is your grouper?
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too much that I don't even ask the price - I can't afford it. and it's frozen
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I am really starting to "slow down" in this heat, and in general. I still try, but the legs and breathing are not "there". I don't know how some of the old marathoners do it.
I'm working on swimming now, for cardio, mostly, at least I don't sweat as much. Any time I run I come back drenched, and sore.
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Stay hydrated - even when swimming.
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Yeah, I come back and drink water like crazy. Today is not quite as hot as last week but we're going to walk around some in a bit.
Then if the pool doesn't get crowded I'll swim some. On weekdays, there rarely is another person in the pool or even down there sunning which is great.
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There is a "homestead exemption" around here that reduces one's property taxes, I hope. So, I finally applied for it. (I didn't before because it appeared to be income restricted.) I go on line, they have a form to complete, which I did, and submitted it, by mail.
A week later I get a letter back that I need to send photos of our DLs and car registration, and apply on line. I dunno why they didn't ask for this in the first place. I go on line and start completing the forms. They want all kinds of information including a copy of my tax returns, which is irrelevant as there is zero mention of any income cap. I get copies of our DLs and reg and send it in, get an email back they can't read the scans I sent. I can read them just fine, they claim they can't. OK, this time I take photos with my phone which I guess make a larger image, send that in, recompleting the form.
Now, I wait, again. I'm getting run around I think.
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There is a "homestead exemption" around here that reduces one's property taxes, I hope. So, I finally applied for it. (I didn't before because it appeared to be income restricted.) I go on line, they have a form to complete, which I did, and submitted it, by mail.
A week later I get a letter back that I need to send photos of our DLs and car registration, and apply on line. I dunno why they didn't ask for this in the first place. I go on line and start completing the forms. They want all kinds of information including a copy of my tax returns, which is irrelevant as there is zero mention of any income cap. I get copies of our DLs and reg and send it in, get an email back they can't read the scans I sent. I can read them just fine, they claim they can't. OK, this time I take photos with my phone which I guess make a larger image, send that in, recompleting the form.
Now, I wait, again. I'm getting run around I think.
your government at work
not working
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Yeah, I guess I'm not surprised, around here. I was surprised when we went to get our DLs in the first place and it took maybe 15 minutes total.
That was very efficient.
Which reminds me, ours are up for renewal next year I think.
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Homestead exemption is easy here. When we went to get our DL's and license plates at the county tax collector, they asked us if we were residents for at least 6 months and a day and we said yes.
Exemption granted.
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I have the option of going to a county location, but one is downtown and another is 25 miles north of us, so I thought I'd try on line.
I may end up going in person.
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Took my wife to the surgery center yesterday to have a small lump removed from her breast.
The initial diagnosis has me grumpy.
Very grumpy.
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Oh dear.
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Took my wife to the surgery center yesterday to have a small lump removed from her breast.
The initial diagnosis has me grumpy.
Very grumpy.
My mom had a mastectomy back in the '80s and cancer didn't kill her ,so timing and science is on your side - best wishes
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found out last Sunday at the family reunion, that my youngest aunt had a small lump removed in her breast
she's nearly through with the chemo treatments - radiation following
F cancer
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Took my wife to the surgery center yesterday to have a small lump removed from her breast.
The initial diagnosis has me grumpy.
Very grumpy.
Ugh. Hate to read that.
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We're here for you. Stay strong, break down, whatever you need. Every single one of us is here with you hoping for the very best possible outcome.
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These posts make me happy.
My wife us is the most upbeat person I know, and she's tough as nails. This ain't gonna beat her.
But yeah, F Cancer.
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I had a crap week, and despite Friday being my birthday, had mostly a crap day. It improved somewhat b/c I got to go out for Chicago tavern pizza with my family, but I still went to bed in a bit of a dour mood, and woke up the same.
Now it's Saturday and I'm doing work b/c I've got a lot of things to adjust based on said crap week.
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Flying from ft Lauderdale to Phoenix via Houston. Almost to Houston pilot says storms in Houston and we don't have enough fuel to fly around and come in behind so we are diverting to Austin to get fuel. Missed our connection and are sitting in Houston airport for 4 hours. Very grumpy
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There is a "homestead exemption" around here that reduces one's property taxes, I hope. So, I finally applied for it. (I didn't before because it appeared to be income restricted.) I go on line, they have a form to complete, which I did, and submitted it, by mail.
A week later I get a letter back that I need to send photos of our DLs and car registration, and apply on line. I dunno why they didn't ask for this in the first place. I go on line and start completing the forms. They want all kinds of information including a copy of my tax returns, which is irrelevant as there is zero mention of any income cap. I get copies of our DLs and reg and send it in, get an email back they can't read the scans I sent. I can read them just fine, they claim they can't. OK, this time I take photos with my phone which I guess make a larger image, send that in, recompleting the form.
Now, I wait, again. I'm getting run around I think.
Wow - I'm glad that I didn't have that much trouble. Just had to fill out income statements of owners (myself and sister), fill out application and send it all in to the revenue office. We have been approved every year since we bought our mobile home. Only had an issue this year, but they called to remind me (said they hadn't received it and I realized I forgot to fill out the income statements and send it) and I just had to resend it all - did that by email and the application was approved that day. Evidently NE has a pretty easy process or I have just lucked out, lol. It is well worth it though-not having to pay property taxes makes me very not grumpy
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I got an email saying our exemption was approved, but no details at all, so I don't have any idea how much if any it may impact my property taxes. It wasn't that hard really, just minorly annoying to send in what was requested and have more requested and then had to send that in again. Our exemption is permanent as it's not based on income, just age. I don't know why they wanted my tax returns except there could be a larger exemption with lower incomes.
I clearly asked for the income irrelevant exemption though. Anyway, it's done, I guess. The web site is about what one would expect for government.
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My wife gets annoyed when folks do this. Can we include grumpy old women?
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Clapping in a movie theater? That's weird. Or is it a play?
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Between movements. Symphonies have movements.
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Yeah people often get that wrong.
But I'm not sure it's anything to be upset about, if someone wants to show their appreciation of a piece at an obvious pause in the music. But of course more sophisticated listeners understand the difference between the end of a movement, and the end of the complete piece.
At our high school band's concerts, they'll often warn ahead of time if the next piece will have multiple movements, and ask the audience to hold applause until the conductor turns to acknowledge the audience. To me that's a decent way to go about it, for those who actually care about applause between movements.
Oftentimes for our high school band, recordings are in progress either for competition or evaluation, so they prefer to hold applause until the end.
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Between movements. Symphonies have movements.
Gotcha.
So do bowels.
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What are your ballet pet peeves?
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I have no ballet pet peeves other than attending one, which I've never done. I went to one opera that was about two hours too long. My wife likes both.
It was a Mozart opera with too many notes.
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We went to an Opera in Italy. One and done.
No ballet, and never.
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Gotcha.
So do bowels.
And the more old the grumpy old men get, the more they feel like clapping when they complete the latter.
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We went to an Opera in Italy. One and done.
No ballet, and never.
Many operas feature a ballet segment within them. Are you certain you got away clean?
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Yes!
(It was in Trieste)
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Years ago (early 2000s) I went to see The Nutcracker ballet. I thought it would be pretty interesting because my school tradition was that every year, the 4th grade class performed a version of The Nutcracker. Thus, I knew the story.
Nope. Pretty sure we left at intermission, and I learned that day that ballet is not for me.
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When we were supposed to visit St. Petersburg, my wife was very anxious to see a ballet (not the one in FL). I was going to oblige, it was quite pricey. I could tolerate 3 hours of something I don't really understand usually. The opera was pretty rough on me though, I got up and walked about the building a few times. Die Zauberflote.
There are parts with well known music and vast tracts with ... boring stuff.
Anyway, I was spared the ballet, and having never been to one I admit to be very slightly curious, but we've all seen segments on TV. After a minute or so, I don't get it.
I have noted that symphonies often play, um, weird compositions, often something modern, with the composer present. I have heard one that was "OK", the rest are discordant nonsense, to me, that sound like the symphony when they are tuning.
I'd prefer they stuck with the classics, which are classics for good reason.
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I'd prefer they stuck with the classics, which are classics for good reason.
Yes, we do all pine for the music of our youth :57:
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I've been to several ballet and multiple operas. I enjoy them but can certainly understand those who don't.
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A/C went out for the downstairs. Gonna be around $11,000 to replace it.
That has got me pretty grumpy today.
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Boy Howdy! I thought $1100 was bad for a fan motor
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I've been to several ballet and multiple operas. I enjoy them but can certainly understand those who don't.
Rocky Horror Picture Show count?
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And the more old the grumpy old men get, the more they feel like clapping when they complete the latter.
You saying you got the Clap?
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A/C went out for the downstairs. Gonna be around $11,000 to replace it.
That has got me pretty grumpy today.
They ain't cheap.
$8,000 for my 1,800-sf house.
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Guess I'll hang onto my AC/Heat Pump a few more yrs
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I replaced my outdoor unit - AC/Heat pump a few years ago - don't remember but it was around $5K
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No beer for 30 days, just going to get grumpier
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I've been to a lot of ballets in my life. The Nutcracker's first act was always more fun for me than the second (the first act has the fighting with the Rat King, the Second is the travel through candyland, or whatever). It and Swan Lake are classics for a reason, but also kind of pop ballet--like a blockbuster movie. I've been impressed with the athleticism and the beauty of the dancing, but it can also get pretty boring. I'm also lucky that I've been mostly to the SF Ballet, which has an excellent reputation.
Opera is something I've never been able to appreciate. I get the concept, but it just doesn't work for me. Kind of like jazz for a lot of people.
Different art forms hit people differently--that's the beauty of art: it should stimulate your mind, but different things stimulate different people. Nothing wrong with that.
One saying I like: great art comforts the disturbed and disturbs the comfortable.
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apparently, I'm pretty comfortable
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One saying I like: great art comforts the disturbed and disturbs the comfortable.
Heh. I often see "art" in some museum I don't consider to be art at all. It's rarely disturbing, it's just ... pointless to me, and I'm not talking about pointilism.
I liked the Boston museum of fine arts. The High Museum here is just "OK", we're members, but rarely go. My step son's GF is an art seller of some sort, I think it's all on line, she's showed me some neat things she's offering that I like. He's the one living in SF and doing well apparently. She's from HK. She lives in San Jose.
My wife and I enjoy Solano Beach near SD, they have some pretty neat artsy fartsy shops along the main drag.
There are art shows in the park several times a year here, the vendors are curated and some of them are really nice, some have stuff I wouldn't buy but are interesting, some looks like junk, but they'll have 300+ booths. We got to be friends with a jewerly maker who attends most of them. Some is pottery, sculpture, paintings, the gamut, a lot of fun, usually in spring or fall when the weather is first rate.
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I replaced my outdoor unit - AC/Heat pump a few years ago - don't remember but it was around $5K
I got a quote on ours from Costco, it was obscenely high, for a Trane. A neighbor suggested I call this dude who showed up and said he could install a Bosch for I think around $7 K and did. He said it would last me forever. The other unit is a Carrier and he said that would probably last me "forever", after taking in my white hair.
These are unusual heat pumps, water sourced. I think high rises usually have them.
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No beer for 30 days, just going to get grumpier
has always made me grumpy, I've tried it a few times
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There's plenty of art that I see that doesn't mean anything to me, including plenty of classics. Nothing wrong with that. I'm generally good for about an hour--sometimes two--in a museum. Get bored. It also depends on the moment. Sometimes I'm open to seeing things in the works, sometimes I'm not.
There's a reason it's hard to make a living as a fine artist.
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My favorite museum is Musee' d'Orsay in Paris. It's very well laid out, not crowded, the lighting is terrific, and the building itself is a work of art. I can do two hours there.
We visited a tiny museum of Millet in Barbizon that was interesting to me because so much of his work was copied later by van Gogh and is now famous. I'm a quasi-van Gogh fan.
Millet Studio Museum - Fontainebleau Tourisme (https://www.fontainebleau-tourisme.com/en/file/689285/millet-studio-museum/)
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my daughters like that stuff - I can pretend to be entertained for about an hour
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Best museum I've ever seen was the Vatican.
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Art is something I didn't think, or care, about at all as a young man.
As I've grown older --- I get it, and appreciate it (mostly).
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there's hope for me - I'm getting older
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there's hope for me - I'm getting older
Some consider Vettes works of art.
Aren't you the corvette guy? :)
Corvette season is upon us.
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Art is something I didn't think, or care, about at all as a young man.
As I've grown older --- I get it, and appreciate it (mostly).
I wanted to be an architect, so I was into arts and such from some coursework that I took.
Rennaissance art was and still is my favorite.
I switched to civil engineering once I learned that it takes like 12 years to make any money as an architect. That made me grumpy, and kinda still does.
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Some consider Vettes works of art.
Aren't you the corvette guy? :)
Corvette season is upon us.
(https://i.imgur.com/1UoOoN6.png)
yes but first a car guy.
I do find some vehicles to be very appeasing to the eye
similar to some ladies
and then for something completely different........ a well orchestrated triple-option play is a work of art in my opinion
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Best museum I've ever seen was the Vatican.
How many paintings of "Madonna and Child" does it take for you before it becomes boring?
I think after the first several hundred thousand I walked past, I was kinda over it.
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How many paintings of "Madonna and Child" does it take for you before it becomes boring?
I think after the first several hundred thousand I walked past, I was kinda over it.
We had a great Docent who really knew where to find stuff and what to show - and explain it. It was just me, my wife, and her.
$$$$
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Similarly had a really good guided experience at the Vatican. Impressive collection of art, and interesting history, besides.
I "get" Van Gogh, I think. I tend to trend darker in what speaks to me. I found Guernica powerful. Part of that is understanding what Picasso was reflecting on--the history matters to me. Most Picasso doesn't interest me. A lot of impressionism is "pretty," but not very interesting.
Good marble statues impress me. The craftsmanship of making stone look supple is impressive.
Some "modern" art is really cool; a lot of it is completely meaningless. What makes one vs. the other is probably impossible to describe.
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BTW I'm joking about the Vatican. It's impressive.
It's just the running joke my wife and I have about being there. "Oh look, another Madonna and child!"
Kinda like European Vacation: "look kids, Parliament/Big Ben"...
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A few years later we had the same Docent company give us the Colosseum and Palatine Hill tour.
Again, just 3 of us, for two days. That was awesome.
I really appreciated those places as an engineer.
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We lucked into an excellent guide through the Vatican, it was a group tour, but well done. We're staying next door this time out so I'll try another tour for the wife.
Who is this Madonna person? I didn't know she was around back then.
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We didn't tour the catacombs, as we didn't even realize it was an option. But then when we heard about it, my wife said that if we ever go back, we want to add that in.
https://www.basilicasanpietro.va/en/products/the-necropolis
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this person makes me grumpy
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Loved the Vatican, louvre, British. Orsay was nice. Could have spent more hours in those 3. Favorite is the British museum mainly because of the Rosetta stone which is my holy grail.
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this person makes me grumpy
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Talk about someone who has had a ton of work done and now really shows it in all the worst ways.
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This is my wife's beef, and I hear about it over and over. A street near us that we use often is being ... rehabbed. It's normally a one way street with four lanes. Now it's going to be a two lane street with these dividers in one lane and a bike lane in the other. It's still under construction, but my wife thinks traffic will be a mess.
I think it will be mostly OK except when delivery trucks block one lane. And they are starting on the other major one way street now that runs parallel to this one, same deal.
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Juniper Complete Street Project | Midtown Atlanta (https://www.midtownatl.com/project/juniper-street-transformation-project)
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I see bike lanes as usually under used - maybe their are more folks riding bikes in Atlanta
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The main thing folks ride here are these small electric scooters. Bikes are pretty rare. The city has this vision all this will encourage more bikes.
I doubt it.
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great, encourage bike riding that probably won't happen, by taking away a lane of traffic that is being used and will probably continue to be even more important going forward
I'm not a fan of bicyclists on roads built for traffic.
if bicyclists want a place to ride, fund their own project
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City put in bike lanes all over Austin. Almost entirely unused but hey, it did succeed in turning many 4 lane roads into 2 lane roads and making traffic much worse.
Victory!
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Government causing problems so they can solve problems and cause more problems to solve later.
Rinse.
Repeat.
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traffic issues................
at the stop light, 2 lanes of traffic going straight (10 to 20 vehicles) waiting while one vehicle in the left turn lanes goes first.
I appreciate the flashing yellow signal in the left turn lane.... wait until the 20 vehicles go thru and then make your left turn
maybe a reason for more "round abouts" - the round abouts don't make me grumpy
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Not possible in a major city without buying buildings.
So, not possible.
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There might be one or two intersections near me where there is room for traffic circles, especially if some parkland is used. One problem is how many drivers here already struggle with the few we have already.
Meanwhile, we are getting more bike lanes. The construction now is going to be right outside my office soon.
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traffic issues................
at the stop light, 2 lanes of traffic going straight (10 to 20 vehicles) waiting while one vehicle in the left turn lanes goes first.
I appreciate the flashing yellow signal in the left turn lane.... wait until the 20 vehicles go thru and then make your left turn
maybe a reason for more "round abouts" - the round abouts don't make me grumpy
Roundabouts also generally slow down traffic.
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I've not had an issue at a round about nor have I witnessed anyone else have an issue
folks get better with them with more experience - as with most things
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Roundabouts also generally slow down traffic.
yup, great for intersections that were previously a 2-way or 4-way stop sign
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City put in bike lanes all over Austin. Almost entirely unused but hey, it did succeed in turning many 4 lane roads into 2 lane roads and making traffic much worse.
Victory!
The city I live in try to do dedicated bus lanes for a few years. As far as I can tell, the bus service was still very poor.
they also built a cluster bike lanes, including one that is very funny because it was wide enough that people just kept using it as a right turn lane, and they had to put up those flimsy little reflective, white poles to get people to stop driving there. (Weirdly the biggest traffic issue there is the stoplight timing)
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poor and/or pitiful stoplight timing makes me grumpy
there is a major boulevard in Sioux City that I avoid for that reason. Unfortunately, it's been that way since the 80s, probably before
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Roundabouts are intended to be chaotic; it is a feature, not a bug. Chaos makes people pay attention, which leads to fewer wrecks. Signaled intersections (stop lights, stop signs) are one of the biggest areas for wrecks because people assume how everyone will act. Roundabouts don't have that problem.
Roundabouts also generally have better throughput than signaled intersections. Drivers think everything gets "slowed down" because they have to slow down earlier than at signaled stops and there is less certainty about when they will get through, but the reduced stoppage time often leads to better throughput, which means higher average speeds. Often, not always.
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Roundabouts are intended to be chaotic; it is a feature, not a bug. Chaos makes people pay attention, which leads to fewer wrecks. Signaled intersections (stop lights, stop signs) are one of the biggest areas for wrecks because people assume how everyone will act. Roundabouts don't have that problem.
Roundabouts also generally have better throughput than signaled intersections. Drivers think everything gets "slowed down" because they have to slow down earlier than at signaled stops and there is less certainty about when they will get through, but the reduced stoppage time often leads to better throughput, which means higher average speeds. Often, not always.
Yup, fewer wrecks and higher throughput on average.
I still don't like 'em but we don't have a lot of them around here anyway.
They're quite common in Europe.
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They installed a round about near us, a route I often go. It was a three way intersection, so it should work pretty well, but at least half the time some car stops dead even if zero traffic is coming the other way. They aren't common enough for visitors to realize how they operate, and no doubt some locals unfamiliar with the area. I've also had cars in the round about who stop even though they have right of way over me, and I'm already clearly stopping.
It is better than the old traffic signal there. It's a very small RAB that didn't take up much extra room. Just past that is a weird intersection that is ancient, it has an exit ramp and entrance ramp to an ancient freeway that has room for an RAB, maybe.
That freeway is from 1954, some of its concrete is still present. They built a parallel new freeway and left the old one intact for a few miles.
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I got "stuck" on that Etoile once, I had migrated to the inside and my wife was saying to take the fourth exit and I couldn't count exits and dodge cars. I went around a few times. The trick is to put on your turn signal and just GO. I still took the fifth exit.
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yeah, I'm not sure about those in Europe where you have 4-6 lanes going each direction
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Yeah, one of the very first things I had to navigate leaving the airport with my rental car in Ireland was a roundabout... Driving on the right side of the car, driving on the left side of the road, shifting a manual with my left hand. That was... Interesting!
They had a lot of roundabouts there when you were out a bit in the country, i.e. between Galway and Killarney. Not many in the middle of downtown Dublin though.
I suppose that I'd have to agree with Badge that you run into density problems when you're putting in roundabouts. A signaled intersection is more compact.
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I've been working on finally rehabilitating the backyard and growing grass. It's making some progress.
So I go out this morning and turn the spigot on the hose feeding the sprinkler. Felt... "Weird". Like something was stuck and then released. Okay then...
...and I go out a while later to turn it off, and it won't turn off. Something inside the valve has broken. I can turn it FAIRLY low, but not off.
So until the damn property management company can get a plumber out here, I've just shut the house inlet valve. Which means I'm not leaking water into the backyard--but I have no water service at all.
I realize I can turn it back on temporarily--and will as needed. But that's annoying, and now I'm grumpy.
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Get a valve or cap at the hardware store and turn it off.
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That's grump worthy for sure.
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Get a valve or cap at the hardware store and turn it off.
Hell, I could just replace the sprinkler that's on the head of the hose with my normal sprayer and turn it off.
It would still be leaking out of the actual spigot valve though, whereas having the house water turned off entirely means nothing's wasted anywhere.
The property manager got back to me and I should hear from the plumber shortly.
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Leaking here...
So installing that won't stop the leak.
The valve needs to be replaced. And I'm not about to start messing with 50 year old pipes in a house I don't own...
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Grumpy.
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I suppose water is expensive there
That would make me grumpy
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All fixed.
It's totally SoCal when your plumber shows up in flip flops, right? :57:
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No different than here...
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The valve needs to be replaced. And I'm not about to start messing with 50 year old pipes in a house I don't own...
Prolly late '60s
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I recall my house in Cincy had "frostproof valves" that weren't completely frostproof. I had one burst after 15 years or so, there was a dedicated cutoff on the supply line at least. I had a plumber repair it, and he said I should replace the one in the back yard as well so I did. It seemed pricey at the time.
This basically reminds me of all the times I had to repair or replace or call someone to do it when I had a house, roof, various leaks, problems with the drainage pipes, HVAC, patio, hardwood floors, irrigation system, carpet (replaced just before I sold it)........ Add it all up and I probably didn't make any money after the sale at all.
Give me a condo.
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I had to replace 2 of those frost free outdoor valves this year. And they are getting pricy. I think I paid about $50 for each.
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No different than here...
or in Austin
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This basically reminds me of all the times I had to repair or replace or call someone to do it when I had a house, roof, various leaks, problems with the drainage pipes, HVAC, patio, hardwood floors, irrigation system, carpet (replaced just before I sold it)........ Add it all up and I probably didn't make any money after the sale at all.
Give me a condo.
just find an evil landlord and pay the Man!
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I am an evil landlord. It's gonna put my kids through college.
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got the 1st semester paid for after the savings on the Mustang
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got the 1st semester paid for after the savings on the Mustang
I thought so. Then both A/C units went out at our primary residence last week.
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I had to replace 2 of those frost free outdoor valves this year. And they are getting pricy. I think I paid about $50 for each.
IMHO better off just sweating in new 1/4 turn shut offs on the inside walls. Then you can use penetrating oil and remove old sillcocks - the hose bibb/spigot that you’ll find coming out of your house.
I have 3 of these outside
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Just remove,clean and rebuild it. Usually nothing more than packing nut with stem packing materiel (teflon or graphite),a rubber valve seat washer, maybe some o-rings/friction rings/metal washer depending on the Mnfg. Easy job.There are also completely sealed units tha can be threaded on - that are shyt IMO.What I don't like about the one frost free outdoor sillcock is it's like 8 full turns from on to off. So I just put one of these 1/4 turns on that 847 posted about - like 14 yrs ago.
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The units I purchased are heavier duty than this which will save you wear/tear opening/closing that long stemmed beast.The sillcock I had bought had a lifetime guarentee. I called and told them all I need are some rebuild parts they don't have to send me the whole assembly. But no they sent me the whole new package - twice
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That was a cheap temporary solution before I knew where the leak from coming from.
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that's fine they are great to put onto the Frost Free units N.O.B.was referring to - to save time and maintenance
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I thought so. Then both A/C units went out at our primary residence last week.
Jesus. Having to name a primary residence implies you have another residence. Rich bastages !
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That valve repair looks ridiculously simple. Backup on the pipe, unscrew the valve. Literally a 5 minute job.
Unless it’s sweated on copper. Little trickier but easily fixable.
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Jesus. Having to name a primary residence implies you have another residence. Rich bastages !
Hah, not exactly how I meant it. I meant, our residence, versus one of our rental properties.
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You do have another residence. It moves around.
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You do have another residence. It moves around.
Ha, there's that one, too. If the A/C goes out on it, though, it's only like $800, rather than... well, the cost of a year of college.
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Our place in the mountains doesn't have AC at all, but the place in Hawaii does. I have not visited our place in France or Italy.
Hard to keep up with it all.
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Hah, not exactly how I meant it. I meant, our residence, versus one of our rental properties.
I think the shoe still fits :)
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Hah, not exactly how I meant it. I meant, our residence, versus one of our rental properties.
lol, I understand. We have some rental property our self. The last one we bought, I installed the HVAC myself with the help of a friend. Literally crawled around in the attic for hours. Learned a lot. Won’t be doing that again.
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you learned a lesson
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you learned a lesson
Well, to be honest I wouldn't call it lerning a lesson. I was in my 30s at that time, and now I'm knocking on 50.
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I wish I was knocking on 50.
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I wish I was knock.........nevermind
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The rain appears to have moved out, still cloudy here, but maybe I can go into the park and throw some. I can't recall this much rain in August aside from having a residual hurricane move through. Speaking of hurricanes, the board still looks fairly calm, a bit of development.
I'm grumpy so don't say this is weather thread material.
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The pool is "suck it up" temperature today, after having been bath water T for weeks.
I made a few laps. My watch says 78°F. Some sun out today.
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What is it about being a dad that gives you just a visceral disgust at seeing your teenaged children sleeping in on the weekends?
I mean, it's not like I want them milling around... But still...
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Yeah, I used to have a bullhorn for that.
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Not wealthy.
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They will be. The bullhorn worked.
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my father didn't need one
it worked
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I'm a stepdad.
I needed one.
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I go into their darkened rooms and yell LIGHTS LIGHTS LIGHTS!!!!
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I'm grumpy that after early wake-ups for about 9 years driven in one way or another by the service, then early wake-ups by kids for all of their littlest years, I just don't sleep late anymore, whether I want to or not. I'm jealous of my kids' ability to do it. Wish I still could.
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What is it about being a dad that gives you just a visceral disgust at seeing your teenaged children sleeping in on the weekends?
I mean, it's not like I want them milling around... But still...
I visited family this week. I still got that energy from my dad, and I am well into adulthood. (i’m not even sleeping in, but sometimes the room I stay in looks like I might be.)
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I'm grumpy that after early wake-ups for about 9 years driven in one way or another by the service, then early wake-ups by kids for all of their littlest years, I just don't sleep late anymore, whether I want to or not. I'm jealous of my kids' ability to do it. Wish I still could.
I've never slept in. Even in college, I'd wake up early and suffer through my hangover because my body just wouldn't stay asleep.
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I hated getting up when I was working. I'd get up around 7 AM and leave the house at 7:30 if I wanted to beat traffic mostly.
Now I routinely wake up at 6 or 6:30 and am wide awake raring to go. Sort of raring.
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life sucks and then you die
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Sorry pal not with another season of CFB on Deck I'm not!!!
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life sucks and then you die
I use to say to my kids "life's tough and then you die" one time in a group of people just talking i said life's tough and my 8yo son pipes in and then you die right daddy then you die.
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I use to say to my kids "life's tough and then you die" one time in a group of people just talking i said life's tough and my 8yo son pipes in and then you die right daddy then you die.
😂😂😂
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My most common comment to my kids is/was "The hardest person to be in life is yourself." They throw that back at me often. They say it made zero sense when they were 11.
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Welp looks like the corporate Big Brother has banned Google Chrome from our computers. That makes me grumpy. I don’t even know my passwords etc to any site.
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You know that sale I was talking about at Costco, and how I ordered my wife a new Apple Watch?
Yeah, they sent an email saying that my order was canceled as the watch was out of stock.
With nothing about "when back in stock you can re-order for the same sale price" or anything like that.
Grumpy.
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This god damn plane, taking 34 god damn minutes to get from landing to the gate. And we still have to deplane.
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This god damn plane, taking 34 god damn minutes to get from landing to the gate. And we still have to deplane.
Anybody named Cooper on Board?
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I get grumpy just thinkin bout flying
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https://twitter.com/mens_corner__/status/1956113776039616628?s=61
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This god damn plane, taking 34 god damn minutes to get from landing to the gate. And we still have to deplane.
What is it - Dallas/FTW airport is bigger than Manhattan? Sheesh. I landed on a little plane in Charlotte and it must have been an outer, small runway. I thought we were going to run out of gas getting to the gate. Took the scenic route.
Okay, we landed. Let me out on the tarmac. Now.
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Longest taxiing I've experienced was in Paris (CDG). They apparently land Delta planes on some far distant runway. We usually have Delta going and Air France coming home. You better pee before you get near final approach.
Then we changed planes in Dubai and got on a bus, after waiting 15 minutes, longest bus ride I've ever had at any airport. The passengers were all laughing, most of us were headed to Amsterdam then home, it was silly.
Folks complain about ATL because that's what folks do, but it's well laid out for connections.
I once flew back from London to NYC en route to Cincy, with a short connection, and the plane sat on the tarmac for an hour claiming the gate was full, that one gate, this was about 9 PM. I missed my connection by over an hour, had to pay for a room, they claimed the delay was due to ... weather.
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ORD has some long taci times depending on which of the 8 runways are used.
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@Drew4UTk (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1)
I invited a few guys to the board
KSBears is trying to join us.
he tells me this ........
It says registration is disabled. Is there an invite that can be sent?
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I've been known to use some salty language. I don't generally judge it, but one of my kids swears more than I'd like. I've pointed it out on more than one occasion. My grandfather used to say that swearing was the result of laziness; not taking the time to find the right word. Maybe, but sometimes a well-placed expletive is exactly the right word. That being said, I've also caught myself plenty of times, having just sworn, thinking that it sounded awfully crass and out of place. Pointless. Lazy.
We've all heard the phrase "swears like a sailor," but my experience led me to question that saying, at least a little.
At the very end of my Army life, I participated in a joint exercise on a Navy ship. For about a week I sailed the Atlantic, slept in a little coffin, and ate in the officers' mess. Naval officers eat off of China (at least on a ship), and they have an "etiquette" officer, a junior officer, who enforces the rules--the proper manners--of the mess. For the ground pounders on that joint exercise, used to going to the field and eating out of a thick plastic bag with a brown plastic spoon, we were bemused. I pointed out that etiquette in the Army was figuring out whether your commander liked it, or didn't like it when you swore. This Navy Lieutenant JG laughed and said that with all of these guests aboard, he had to relax the rules a little. Most of my commanders liked a well-placed F-bomb, though some pretended to be a little more demure.
Which leads me to my grumpy old man thought of the moment: spoken language is different than written language. In written language swearing is rarely appropriate. Not never, but rarely. I find that in writing it is better at conveying levity than seriousness--often the opposite of its usage in spoken language. And I find that expletives on this board are more often than not crass and pointless, not effective or well-aimed. Some might even say lazy.
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Interesting comments. I was musing about the Navy ships that have Marines on board. The enlisted must eat together, maybe the self segregate, dunno. On the other hand, Marines think highly of their Navy Corpsmen, so maybe they pretty much get along. The assault ships may carry more Marines than sailors. Every ship used to have some Marines on board to "guard the Captain" but that was dropped a while back.
I had sent some dried Asian meals to my son in Iraq and he told me they were highly prized because everything else was so tasteless/bland. They apparently got some kind of field kitchen after a few months that was apparently better. They did spend four days in the desert once watching some town with no action eating MREs and nothing else. He did not care for that.
I digress.
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I don't swear a ton, if I do it's probably for emphasis. I guess I agree on written swearing versus spoken, but I also view message board interactions in exactly the same way I view spoken conversations.
In general I don't worry about what others might think of me if I swear. I'm confident in my own intellect and capabilities, if someone wants to think less of me when I swear, that's really their issue and not mine.
Now, being mean or cruel or heartless or denigrating or overly antagonistic, in real conversation or message board interactions-- those are traits that absolutely do make me think less of a person.
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Field kitchens were a God send whenever we had them. Often we would get them for one meal, or one day, per week in the field. The higher up one got in admin, the more access to field kitchens. When I was on battalion staff in the field, we had a field kitchen nearby quite often. Not surprising--they were in the rear with the gear (our Battalion HQ was co-located with Division HQ). But my time in the field was all "exercise"--different in nearly every way than what took place in Iraq.
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I almost never use profanity. Oddly enough, my wife will fairly often, and then say "Pardon" instantly thereafter, and it's always in French.
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Ah, so your wife is the actual inventor of the phrase, "pardon my French."
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my father taught me to consider who was within earshot when swearing
in other words, not around women and children, but also not around anyone that found it offensive
unless of course you were trying to offend someone
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https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/26/health/swearing-benefits-wellness
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I've heard about that research
not sure that there are benefits while typing
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Bitdefender doesn't like the unsecured wifi at the crap hotel this morning so no access with the laptop
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Tonight is the start of Week 1 of CFB.
So *of course* it's $^!*#&% back to school night at my daughter's middle school :96:
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My wife scheduled our flight to NYC on Saturday during the Tx-OSU game
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That's grounds for dismissal.
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I don't ever let my i s c & a aggie wife schedule the travel plans. She can pick the items of interest at the destination, but if I don't make the actual travel plans, something always ends up wonky.
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My wife scheduled a trip to Cincinnati tomorrow. I grumbled. Better to go than cause a ruckus. Some birthday gig.
I did talk her into a trip to Blue Ash Chili, she had scheduled lunch at Maggiano's interestingly enough. She really likes her priest, who is now retired, and we try to meet up for lunch when we're there. I like him a lot also.
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My wife scheduled our flight to NYC on Saturday during the Tx-OSU game
That was no accident,next thing she'll have you lined up for a fall wedding when the Dawgs are playing in the SEC C.C.G.
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My wife scheduled a trip to Cincinnati tomorrow.
Grab yourself some Christian Moerlein while you're there,you might have been acquainted from your previous stint
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I don't ever let my i s c & a aggie wife schedule the travel plans. She can pick the items of interest at the destination, but if I don't make the actual travel plans, something always ends up wonky.
My wife was always the one in her past life that had to make and be in charge of travel plans.
I've always been the same.
That was a responsibility she was quite happy to cede to me when we met. She's more than capable, but she knows I am as well and that she'd rather not...
(https://i.imgur.com/l1DGugw.png)
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Yeah we had the one "incident" where she planned our honeymoon because I was working and she had finished grad school and had a job lined up but at the moment had plenty of time. She took care of everything, and I just let her do it, and let her tell me the exact plan.
So when it was time to go, she told me to pack up, and we got all our stuff together, and then we arrived at the airport... exactly one day early.
Which, as she pointed out, was better than one day late...
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Not sure where to post this, but Grumpy Old Man Thread is probably as good as any.
College Gameday.....Lee Corso. I mean, we all love Lee Corso, but the whole "last game day " deal got old quick. I mean, the dude is like 90 years old and should have retired years ago. I have to think the ratings are not that great, that show got stale a long time ago.
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I didn't bother to watch it
I was never a Corso fan
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Well, with the Corso love fest, they finally had enough material to fill three hours for once.
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Well, with the Corso love fest, they finally had enough material to fill three hours for once.
Ha! That was exactly my thought!
It's been probably two decades since I watched the show as anything other than having background noise on, but I actually watched most of this one, and enjoyed it.
But I also think it's time for Corso to move on and am glad he was able to go out while still being (mostly) cognizant and coherent.
I agree with Gigem, probably should have happened many years ago.
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15-20 years too late.
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That and Kirk Herbstreits' dog. What is the deal with that? I don't even remember that being much of a deal, and then a year or two ago they started hyping this dog...then the dog dies, then they get another...and every week they have to showcase the dog as if it's something special.
Does anybody remember Kirks dog being a big deal 3-4 years ago? I almost think they decided to play it up since they knew the dog was near the end of life and it would make great TV.
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I quit watching long before dogs were involved
glad I did
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I have the Fox and/or B1G channel on for pregame background noise.
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yup, depending on location
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May as well put this here.
This package was dropped off at the local post office. From there, it went to Miami, then Tampa, and finally to its destination in Englewood. This package travelled 520 miles, for a 27 mile trip from Punta Gorda to Englewood.
Any questions on Post Office efficiency?
(https://i.imgur.com/9NiXawQ.png)
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I'd been slacking on my workouts. I was still riding the Peloton, but my strength work basically took a multi-month hiatus due to a spiral of depression.
So... This week I decided to fix that. And I've finally done some strength workouts.
Which will eventually make it into the "happy" thread...
...but for now...
...everything is pain. :91:
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May as well put this here.
This package was dropped off at the local post office. From there, it went to Miami, then Tampa, and finally to its destination in Englewood. This package travelled 520 miles, for a 27 mile trip from Punta Gorda to Englewood.
Any questions on Post Office efficiency?
[img width=347.997 height=500]https://i.imgur.com/9NiXawQ.png[/img]
Earlier this year I had something shipping from Illinois to Ohio.. Somehow ended up in England.. the country.. When i asked the company to just cancel it and resend, the preferred the route of shipping it back.. It was a $20 item.
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Hot water heater wouldn't connect to the wi-fi (needed to recirc the water so as not to wait for hot...long, further grumpy-old-man story...). Tried calling the company hotline--message says they don't take hotline calls anymore, have to use the chatbot. Logged into the chat bot on Wednesday, said it would be an 11 minute wait. Was a 15 minute wait. Then it referred me to "level 2 support" because I had already done all the things the chat bot would have wanted me to try. Level 2 support would be a 7 minute wait. 20 minutes later I had to leave for work.
So, tried again this morning. Same: 11 minute wait: turned into closer to 20. Sent to Level 2 support: took about an extra 8 minutes. Finally got through, turned out the fix was to unplug the whole unit and plug it back in again. Gold-darn-it. Simplest freakin' troubleshooting fix of all, and I hadn't tried it yet. To be fair, the problem was the wi-fi module, but the fix was to unplug the whole water heater, then plug it back in. But still. Made me mad that I hadn't done that on my own. Weird thing is it is a natural gas heater, but it takes some electricity to run its brain; that was what needs resetting. And the fact that it is a gas heater is the reason I hadn't thought about just rebooting the computer part of it. Sigh.
Stoopit newfangled technology.
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Last week with my step son we drove to Cincinnati for a 90th birthday celebration of a friend of my wife's. OK, whatever. The first event was a dinner of sorts at some pretty mundane restraurant in their patio, fortunately the weather was nice. I'd guess there were 60 people crowded into the space. The birthday boy gave a speech, a long speech, and hardly anyone listened. I could hear he was talking but not what he was saying because everyone else was talking at the same time, the noise level was bothersome to me, I'm a bit sensitive to loud noises. Anyway, I sat at the table and had a couple glasses of pretty awful white wine and a plate from their "buffet", no big deal. I said nothing, again because of the noise level. People kept rearranging the seating at the table bringing more tables over, so I constantly had to get up and shift my chair. So, I'm not in a good mood, and my wife knows it. A few people I didn't know tried to ask me something, I couldn't make it out unless they screamed in my ear, all while birthday boy is droning on about something. This sort of event is entirely something I abhor.
The next day, the event was a brunch with a "smaller group" and dude's condo, I told my wife I couldn't make it. She later told me I made a good choice. Then that afternoon was a riverboat cruise to watch the fireworks, I told my wife I wasn't going even though she had paid $500 for the ticket, which amazed me. So, I stayed in the two bedroom loft my step son had rented, and walked over to a Kroger downtown to get some food. This was in the OTR area of Cincy which is ... interesting.
I'm told Birthday Boy made another long speech on the boat, this time apparently folks quieted down a bit. My wife said he rambled. This fellow is the only of her friends I actively dislike, I dislike very few people, I do ignore others I don't particularly care to around, but dislike? Not often.
Then we drove back. Amidst the group was our friends from France who I do like, and their daugher and her husband I don't recall ever meeting. The father was the CEO of my wife's company and she worked directly for him and he is a very interesting fellow, as is his wife. They drove down to ATL to stay near us and visited for dinner which turned out to be enough to compensate for the silliness above, I really enjoyed that. The daughter probably wondered how I could be so sullen at their party and so lively and engaged at our dinner. So, that part worked out fine. And my two kids are coming in Friday for my birthday, so that will be fun, probably.
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Hot water heater wouldn't connect to the wi-fi (needed to recirc the water so as not to wait for hot...long, further grumpy-old-man story...). Tried calling the company hotline--message says they don't take hotline calls anymore, have to use the chatbot. Logged into the chat bot on Wednesday, said it would be an 11 minute wait. Was a 15 minute wait. Then it referred me to "level 2 support" because I had already done all the things the chat bot would have wanted me to try. Level 2 support would be a 7 minute wait. 20 minutes later I had to leave for work.
So, tried again this morning. Same: 11 minute wait: turned into closer to 20. Sent to Level 2 support: took about an extra 8 minutes. Finally got through, turned out the fix was to unplug the whole unit and plug it back in again. Gold-darn-it. Simplest freakin' troubleshooting fix of all, and I hadn't tried it yet. To be fair, the problem was the wi-fi module, but the fix was to unplug the whole water heater, then plug it back in. But still. Made me mad that I hadn't done that on my own. Weird thing is it is a natural gas heater, but it takes some electricity to run its brain; that was what needs resetting. And the fact that it is a gas heater is the reason I hadn't thought about just rebooting the computer part of it. Sigh.
Stoopit newfangled technology.
Water heater connects to wi-fi.....Whaaaa?
I'm definitely behind the times......gladly, probably.
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I'll try to stay back here
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Water heater connects to wi-fi.....Whaaaa?
I'm definitely behind the times......gladly, probably.
Frankly, I'm a little annoyed (grumpy old man-style) at that, too.
We have a tankless water heater (good decision, but it has its downsides), and it has a recirc pump so that if you know you're going to want hot water at a faucet far away from the heater, it's a good idea to run the recirc for a few minutes beforehand. You activate the recirc pump through the wi-fi. Generally it works well, and when you live in a place without much water, it's better not to just run the water until the hot water arrives, which can be as much as minutes later, depending on where in the house (PS it's not that big a house). There's another part of this story, which is the crappy job the plumber did when this system was installed, but it's just something we've learned to live with.
Anyway, because of the way this system works, with the use of wifi, the freaking mfg knows everything about my water use. That bugs me. Not that it will ever matter, but it is a little creepy that some chatbot knows when I'm using my hot water.
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Wife's RX needs front lower control arms replaced, and full pads & rotors all around. That's... Not cheap.
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Wife's RX needs front lower control arms replaced, and full pads & rotors all around. That's... Not cheap.
You're an engineer, just DIY it.
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Our thermostat connects to wifi which comes in handy, but water heater?
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You're an engineer, just DIY it.
I would for my Jeep. Heck, I installed the entire lift kit myself.
Not messing with her car. I'd rather pay the money than do something wrong and get blamed for it :57:
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You're an engineer, just DIY it.
So, I'm an engineer too, and when I look under my hood and see this
(https://i.imgur.com/8tulaLT.png)
I know to get the hell away from it.
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So, I'm an engineer too, and when I look under my hood and see this
(https://i.imgur.com/8tulaLT.png)
I know to get the hell away from it.
You should be able to design a better one, machining each of the components from scratch.
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You're an engineer, just DIY it.
You obviously don’t understand what an engineer does.
Engineer is not a technician.
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So, I'm an engineer too, and when I look under my hood and see this
(https://i.imgur.com/8tulaLT.png)
Ed Zachery. Engineers cause this crap
not technicians
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I hate how everything is covered up nowadays. Even the undercarriage (for good reasons, but still).
I miss my lifted Jeep where I could literally roll under it, work on it, take a nap, and roll back out. And I'm not svelte.
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Engineers can do anything, with enough time and study. But the humility of an engineer is to know that in some cases, you simply don't have the knowledge and experience to trump other engineers who have been honing their craft for decades.
I am not an engineer in anything remotely automotive. I can turn a wrench from time to time, but automotive design is not my field. Just as any engineer working for the Big 3 would take 5-10 years (minimum) to remotely equal my knowledge and experience in my field.
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Engineers can do anything, with enough time and study. But the humility of an engineer is to know that in some cases, you simply don't have the knowledge and experience to trump other engineers who have been honing their craft for decades.
I am not an engineer in anything remotely automotive. I can turn a wrench from time to time, but automotive design is not my field. Just as any engineer working for the Big 3 would take 5-10 years (minimum) to remotely equal my knowledge and experience in my field.
Exactly.
I've been practicing since September 4, 1984.
I'm still practicing.
Soon, I will quit.
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Is there some function beyond asthetics for engine covers? I understand aero underneath, but on top?
This is the Hyundai. I actually never open the hood until the washer fluid indicates low. I can probably change the air filter, if it's in the box on the left. I used to check the oil religiously back in the day. I think the orange thing on the right relates to the electric motor, maybe.
The somewhat annoying feature of this car is that it shuts down after about a week of sitting, as in, you can't open the doors. I have to detach a plastic cover off the door handle and use the hard key to enter and reset the battery. It has two batteries, a regular one and then the hybrid one, so I don't know why it would run out of power sitting a week.
(https://i.imgur.com/9nq0BRi.jpeg)
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A simpler affair, to me, would be one where the electric motor does all the propelling, no transmission. An engine is there solely to generate electricity for the battery. No alternator, one battery, not two, no start stop needed. Maybe you could plug it in to 110v to juice the small battery a bit. PHEV.
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I'll take the covered engine, thank you.
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apparently, engine covers look nice.
seems they would hold heat
I don't understand all the fiber carbon covers for many things.
Why put a cover on something to make it look like fiber carbon?
if it's not fiber carbon, by adding the cover, you're just adding weight that you don't need with no function
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apparently, engine covers look nice.
seems they would hold heat
I don't understand all the fiber carbon covers for many things.
Why put a cover on something to make it look like fiber carbon?
if it's not fiber carbon, by adding the cover, you're just adding weight that you don't need with no function
It's aesthetic, of course. Like most of the rear wings and front spoilers and air dams and other side skirts on all of the various production road models. They're intended to make a road car look more aggressive, more like a race car, which actually has use for all of those aero pieces.
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The front air dams have some function of course at freeway speeds and a bit. The rear spoiler if designed correctly can also improve gas mileage at say 80 mph by separating air flow from the rear of the car where it induces drag. The impact at say 80 mph MIGHT be a few tenths of mpgs.
Rear Spoilers | The Point of Rear Spoilers and How to Install Them (https://autotraining.edu/auto-repair-tips/rear-spoilers/)
How Form Meets Function: The Science Behind Car Spoilers and Aerodynam – Pedal Commander® (https://pedalcommander.com/blogs/garage/the-science-behind-car-spoilers-and-aerodynamics)
At very high speeds, the drag associated with a rear spoiler increases to the point that top speed is reduced, but it keeps the car from coming off the ground. The Z07 package on a Corvette reduces top speed.
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The front air dams have some function of course at freeway speeds and a bit. The rear spoiler if designed correctly can also improve gas mileage at say 80 mph by separating air flow from the rear of the car where it induces drag. The impact at say 80 mph MIGHT be a few tenths of mpgs.
Rear Spoilers | The Point of Rear Spoilers and How to Install Them (https://autotraining.edu/auto-repair-tips/rear-spoilers/)
How Form Meets Function: The Science Behind Car Spoilers and Aerodynam – Pedal Commander® (https://pedalcommander.com/blogs/garage/the-science-behind-car-spoilers-and-aerodynamics)
At very high speeds, the drag associated with a rear spoiler increases to the point that top speed is reduced, but it keeps the car from coming off the ground. The Z07 package on a Corvette reduces top speed.
Right. For standard production cars at legal speeds (Not Corvette Z07s on tracks and whatnot), all of those air dams and spoilers have little to zero effect.
Like I said, they are for aesthetics. Same as the fake carbon fiber or carbon fiber cover stuff.
Which is fine. I think they can look very cool sometimes.
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I'm not talking about functional pieces
I'm talking about a fiber carbon cover to make it look like the functional piece is made of fiber carbon
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Arizona has some patches of sticky dust that is so fine it looks like smoke when you drive through it. It gets into every nook and cranny, and it is difficult to remove. You'll be glad for the engine cover if you ever encounter it.
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I'm not talking about functional pieces
I'm talking about a fiber carbon cover to make it look like the functional piece is made of fiber carbon
I'm equating the two. In the vast majority of cases for road cars running on streets, all of those air dams and spoilers and wings, are not functional either. They are for aesthetics. Same as the carbon fiber covers. It's simply to look cool.
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I also think it looks odd to add carbon fiber pieces, even if it's real carbon fiber, to a car that is not made of carbon fiber.
Since my son has a new Mustang, and he's a teenage boy, he's obviously already looking into modifications for it. He'd like to add a new front chin spoiler and some kind of rear spoiler to the vehicle, and he keeps wanting to go with either carbon fiber, or the carbon fiber lookalike stuff.
But none of the other pieces or covers or trim work, is carbon fiber. It's mostly matte black plastic, or in some cases glossy black. Because of the formulation of the front grill, I think a matte black front chin spoiler would look best. And because of the black gloss paint on the roof and some other pieces toward the rear, I think a glossy black rear spoiler would look best.
But the boy wants that carbon fiber look. Seems weird and out of place to me but the heart wants what the heart wants I guess.
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I was more into auto aesthetics when I was 17 than I am today.
Of course, cars back then were any color you wanted so long as it was black ....
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Arizona has some patches of sticky dust that is so fine it looks like smoke when you drive through it. It gets into every nook and cranny, and it is difficult to remove. You'll be glad for the engine cover if you ever encounter it.
(https://richardnilsen.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/toroweap-11.jpg?w=660&h=495)
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it's not a mirror, it's a mirror cover
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it actually adds weight
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it actually adds weight
Yup. It's strictly for aesthetics.
They make those for my son's Mustang but thankfully that's not one of the mods he wants. The car is carbon gray metallic, but it has a trim package where the mirrors are painted gloss black instead of matching the body color. So they already look cool. The roof is also gloss black instead of body color, it's subtle on an already dark gray car but makes it look a lot tougher, IMO.
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$500
geez
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Rear wing and front air dam on this bad boy probably don't do a whole lot for day-to-day performance, maybe out on the track they do? But they sure look cool!
(https://i.imgur.com/vh2W7Ko.jpeg)
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oh, it goes fast enuff to get a bit of performance
even in a straight line
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Sporty cars thread?
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sporty cars don't make me grumpy
$500 mirror covers that serve no purpose do
hell they make the push button starter covers
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Sporty cars thread?
Well Fearless is grumping about car stuff. So here we are.
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sporty cars don't make me grumpy
$500 mirror covers that serve no purpose do
hell they make the push button starter covers
They make carbon fiber inserts for the cupholders. True story.
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My buddy had either a Ducati 916 or 996 (I forget which was the current model at the time), in traditional red.
He replaced the main bodywork pieces with carbon fiber but actually had it painted red--except for the DUCATI stencil on the sides, which were unpainted and revealed the carbon fiber underneath.
While paint adds weight, they were still lighter than the stock body panels, and made for a pretty cool effect.
To bring this into this thread's purpose, he was grumpy when he crashed it and broke both his arms.
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He's lucky he wasn't stumpy
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He's somewhat lucky he's alive. He was being stupid riding at an absurd speed at night--I think on the interstate--and someone changed lanes right in front of him. He grabbed the brakes but hit them at a pretty high closing speed.
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You're an engineer, just DIY it.
BTW one of the reasons I don't DIY it with my wife's car...
So they finished up everything with the control arms, the brakes, and the alignment yesterday. But when they went to replace one of the sensors, now it's tripping the ABS system warning lights.
Given that this was something that was done when THEY removed the sensor and replaced it, they're replacing the sensor and doing it for free. Only downside for us was an extra day in the shop to give them time to get the part--which doesn't bother me because it "forced" me to drive the Jeep to the office which I love doing anyway, but annoys my wife because she has to drive the Flex.
But this sort of thing... It's an extra day in the shop for qualified professionals. For me it would mean starting my own secondary troubleshooting effort to figure out what was causing the light. Then it would entail an extra day or couple of days to order and get the part. Then it would take finding the time to do the work. All of which my wife would be stuck with my Flex and I'd have the Jeep as my only option. And then I'd still have to take it into a shop for an alignment, which is one thing I don't have the skills or tools to do.
There are some times that it's just better to throw money at a problem, even if you're technically capable of handling it yourself. I *can* replace control arms and brakes. But it doesn't always make sense.
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He's somewhat lucky he's alive. He was being stupid riding at an absurd speed at night--I think on the interstate--and someone changed lanes right in front of him. He grabbed the brakes but hit them at a pretty high closing speed.
Motorcycles are dangerous in the best of circumstances. Too bad--they look like a lot of fun.
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Motorcycles are dangerous in the best of circumstances. Too bad--they look like a lot of fun.
And they're even more fun than they look :72:
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Motorcycles are dangerous in the best of circumstances. Too bad--they look like a lot of fun.
I would never ride one here.
People can't see.
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I would never ride one here.
People can't see.
I crashed on the racetrack 2 years before the iPhone was invented. At the time I already was getting freaked out riding on public streets.
I can't imagine owning one for on-street riding now.
Not only do I have to worry about ordinary bad drivers, I have to worry about good drivers who are temporarily bad because they are looking at their phones, and I have to worry about drivers who are letting their Tesla drive for them. Any of those three might fail to see me.
If I ever get another, it will be track-only.
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I would never ride one here.
People can't see.
Rode mini bike's back in the day,never a street bike.After 9th grade summer FB practice a buddy and I stopped at Burger King to scarf down.A short time later some some biker stops at a red light not far from us and an older woman pulls up and hits his rear tire.Going slow prolly 5-6-7 mph. The bike immediately flipped back tire over front we looked at each other in disbelief. Couldn't believe he wasn't killed as he wasn't wearing a helmet.We were the 1st ones there the guy was sitting up on the adjacent curb holding his ribs and gasping a bit as he fired up a smoke. Prolly had a couple broken ribs and maybe a punctured lung. The rescue squad got there quick enough as did the cops.That didn't look like a lot of fun so we went back inside and finished our meal. Neither of us has taken to the 2 wheelers ever since
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Motorcycles are dangerous in the best of circumstances. Too bad--they look like a lot of fun.
My nephew died in a motorcycle wreck 3 weeks ago. Only 19 years old.
He had only had the bike for 6 weeks. He was a wild child, and short on brains --- the kind of kid that never should have owned a motorcycle.
So glad my sons never had an interest, and now that their cousin has died on one --- a worry I'll probably never have.
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Sorry to hear that @jgvol (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1567) -- that's terrible...
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My nephew died in a motorcycle wreck 3 weeks ago. Only 19 years old.
Condolences jgvol
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Yes sorry to hear that jgvol.
My older cousin died in a motorcycle accident when he was 21 and going to UT, I was only 12 or so at the time but he was my favorite cousin and it impacted me quite a bit.
I will never, ever ride a motorcycle on roads that are shared with cars.
I have in the past ridden dirtbikes out on private property in the boonies, which was fun, but I'll never ride on the streets.
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legally a slingshot is considered a motorcycle.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Polaris_Slingshot_front_3.4.18.jpg/1200px-Polaris_Slingshot_front_3.4.18.jpg)
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I see a lot of those around here. Still a death trap.
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Thanks, all.
It was topical to the convo --- hope I didn't make anyone feel bad.
Definitely sad, though. Young lives cut short always are.
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Yes, that is terrible.
My oldest has a big boy H-D Super Glide and I hate it when he rides.
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And they're even more fun than they look :72:
Yes, they are
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Wife's RX needs front lower control arms replaced, and full pads & rotors all around. That's... Not cheap.
I have this exact repair scheduled at the Mazda dealer this coming Monday. Will run over $1200 + $150 for the follow-on wheel alignment.
You're an engineer, just DIY it.
This is not a repair I can do on my own. First, to access the front suspension area for work, you'll need a car lift, which I doubt anybody here has in their garage. Second, once the new controller arms are installed, a wheel alignment is required after this kind of work on/near the suspension system. No way I can do a wheel alignment without a wheel aligner system. Most standard models are over $5k.
Shop work all the way.
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I thought nearly everyone had a car lift in their garage.
Pikers.
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This is not a repair I can do on my own. First, to access the front suspension area for work, you'll need a car lift, which I doubt anybody here has in their garage.
You could conceivably do this with jack stands. It would be a lot more cramped, but possible. I did the lift kit on my Jeep with just jack stands, not a car lift. It wasn't ideal, but I did it.
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Bwarb designed thee or four car lifts in his sleep, last night
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My oldest son has a lift.
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(https://i.imgur.com/0S27KGx.png)
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gotta be able to park another sports car underneath
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gotta be able to park another sports car underneath
One of my old bosses had that. He was big into Morgan roadsters, had a couple of them. He could park one under the other with his lift. Also had an old-school Mini Cooper. Had some cars that were in storage.
Was telling me a story about how he and his wife were in a meeting with their financial guy, and at some point the discussion of the 9th vehicle came up and his wife said... "Wait, when exactly did you get another???" :57:
This is what life looks like when a guy in tech in SoCal marries a woman in tech in SoCal.
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my dentist buddy with the 9 Mustangs sold his toy shed this summer. The nice heated shed where I was able to store the vette last winter.
I was hoping the new shed would be a spot for the vette again this winter.
He downsized,........... even sold one of the Mustangs.
No spot for the Vette.
That makes me grumpy.
looking into insulating my garage and installing a heater
- damn
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Running 220 is a PIA. The wire is very hard to work with.
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(https://i.imgur.com/w51ZNtx.png)
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I know a guy.
the father of the guy that's gonna do the insulation
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That concert is past annoying. Last day.
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(https://i.imgur.com/KXD2uEn.jpeg)
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At our distance, most of what we hear is drums and heavy bass. It gets really annoying as the heavy bass in a lot of modern music is the same thing over and over.
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Heavy bass tends to sound like heavy bass no matter the era of music.
In the 70s and early 80s, I grew up in a house about 1.5 blocks from the local skating rink. At that distance, and through the walls of that old steel hangar-style building, all you could hear was the bass, but you could hear it quite well. They weren't playing rap or hip hop back then, just pop and hard rock. The bass sounded pretty much the same, regardless.
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The heavy bass in classical music often sounds like ... music.
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and grumpy old men will complain about that, too!
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Do any of you get into the situation where you want something, and you can afford it, but when you actually see the price tag you realize "no effing way" because you've anchored in very old ideas about what some things should cost?
I logged into the Rush ticket sale. I was pretty early in the queue and when I got in, there were a LOT of tickets available.
Prior to logging in, I thought, "$300 seems like a good upper limit" for tickets. Especially since I know we'd have to drive to LA, which is annoying, my wife doesn't even know/like Rush or their music, so although she'd be completely supportive and go with me, I know her ticket is a bit of a wasted expense, etc... So I figured $600 for the two of us for a night out was about as much as anyone should reasonably have to pay.
So... I get in and set the slider to a max of $300. And immediately every part of the Forum seating that isn't an absolute upper deck nosebleed disappears. So I set the slider to $350. No change. Slide it to $400. Ahh! Some things open up! I find two good tickets for a combined $790.
But... Do I really want to spend $800 on a concert? For a band I've actually seen once before (which I could somehow afford when I was a damn poor college student!), when one of the original band members isn't even alive? No! That's ridiculous!
And yet... I can afford it. I'm not saying $800 is nothing. I'm by no means "rich". But I've reached a point in my life and career, where I can treat myself to things... Especially since there are very few times that I actually spend a lot of money on myself. I could buy those tickets and feel not even the slightest twinge financially.
But $800 just seems like too much.
So I closed the browser window in disgust, went and mashed some pedals on the Peloton to get some frustration out, and I'm consigning myself to maybe checking out as we get closer to the date of the show if interest wanes and they get cheaper (unlikely, of course).
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I'm not paying that kind of money.
I love the guys - no doubt. I've seen them 27 times - with Neil.
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I'm glad that I stopped going to concerts. Good grief.
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I'm glad that I stopped going to concerts. Good grief.
Yeah, we don't go anymore either really. I'd have done this one - it's Rush. But I don't have a lot of patience for mass crowds anymore.
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Do any of you get into the situation where you want something, and you can afford it, but when you actually see the price tag you realize "no effing way" because you've anchored in very old ideas about what some things should cost?
Every single day.
The other day, I was going to grab something, thinking it'd be $15 or so. $27.
Nope.
I don't even remember what it was, but I remember the price disparity between what I was willing to pay and what it cost.
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So this fall break has been shit.
Car issues negated a trip to Vegas.
Car issues took days longer and cost far more than anticipated.
I go to an AZ Fall League baseball game. Delayed. Cancelled.
FFS
I just wanted to turn off my brain and enjoy some random baseball. Nope.
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Do any of you get into the situation where you want something, and you can afford it, but when you actually see the price tag you realize "no effing way" because you've anchored in very old ideas about what some things should cost?
I logged into the Rush ticket sale. I was pretty early in the queue and when I got in, there were a LOT of tickets available.
Prior to logging in, I thought, "$300 seems like a good upper limit" for tickets. Especially since I know we'd have to drive to LA, which is annoying, my wife doesn't even know/like Rush or their music, so although she'd be completely supportive and go with me, I know her ticket is a bit of a wasted expense, etc... So I figured $600 for the two of us for a night out was about as much as anyone should reasonably have to pay.
So... I get in and set the slider to a max of $300. And immediately every part of the Forum seating that isn't an absolute upper deck nosebleed disappears. So I set the slider to $350. No change. Slide it to $400. Ahh! Some things open up! I find two good tickets for a combined $790.
But... Do I really want to spend $800 on a concert? For a band I've actually seen once before (which I could somehow afford when I was a damn poor college student!), when one of the original band members isn't even alive? No! That's ridiculous!
And yet... I can afford it. I'm not saying $800 is nothing. I'm by no means "rich". But I've reached a point in my life and career, where I can treat myself to things... Especially since there are very few times that I actually spend a lot of money on myself. I could buy those tickets and feel not even the slightest twinge financially.
But $800 just seems like too much.
So I closed the browser window in disgust, went and mashed some pedals on the Peloton to get some frustration out, and I'm consigning myself to maybe checking out as we get closer to the date of the show if interest wanes and they get cheaper (unlikely, of course).
I confess I spent $800 to see the Eagles after Glenn Fry and Don Felder were not there. One dead and the other left the band. I shocked myself paying that much. There were great seat. Front row along the bowl of the stadium.
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Do any of you get into the situation where you want something, and you can afford it, but when you actually see the price tag you realize "no effing way" because you've anchored in very old ideas about what some things should cost?
I logged into the Rush ticket sale. I was pretty early in the queue and when I got in, there were a LOT of tickets available.
Prior to logging in, I thought, "$300 seems like a good upper limit" for tickets. Especially since I know we'd have to drive to LA, which is annoying, my wife doesn't even know/like Rush or their music, so although she'd be completely supportive and go with me, I know her ticket is a bit of a wasted expense, etc... So I figured $600 for the two of us for a night out was about as much as anyone should reasonably have to pay.
So... I get in and set the slider to a max of $300. And immediately every part of the Forum seating that isn't an absolute upper deck nosebleed disappears. So I set the slider to $350. No change. Slide it to $400. Ahh! Some things open up! I find two good tickets for a combined $790.
But... Do I really want to spend $800 on a concert? For a band I've actually seen once before (which I could somehow afford when I was a damn poor college student!), when one of the original band members isn't even alive? No! That's ridiculous!
And yet... I can afford it. I'm not saying $800 is nothing. I'm by no means "rich". But I've reached a point in my life and career, where I can treat myself to things... Especially since there are very few times that I actually spend a lot of money on myself. I could buy those tickets and feel not even the slightest twinge financially.
But $800 just seems like too much.
So I closed the browser window in disgust, went and mashed some pedals on the Peloton to get some frustration out, and I'm consigning myself to maybe checking out as we get closer to the date of the show if interest wanes and they get cheaper (unlikely, of course).
To answer your question, yes. There is a big difference between what you can afford and what you will afford
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To answer your question, yes. There is a big difference between what you can afford and what you will afford
Yep. I just didn't expect it to make me so grumpy!
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I'm not paying that kind of money.
I love the guys - no doubt. I've seen them 27 times - with Neil.
i love Rush too but not 27 facking times
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I confess I spent $800 to see the Eagles after Glenn Fry and Don Felder were not there. One dead and the other left the band. I shocked myself paying that much. There were great seat. Front row along the bowl of the stadium.
So ya didn't see the EAGLES
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I don't get the spending a ton of money for a concert thing. I have friends that do it, and it makes them happy, which is really all that matters.
But the music is on your phone, whenever you want it. For basically free.
That being said, I spur-of-the-moment, day-of went to see Jimmy Buffett in Phx...and then he dies 2 years later. So I'm glad I went.
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I confess I spent $800 to see the Eagles after Glenn Fry and Don Felder were not there. One dead and the other left the band. I shocked myself paying that much. There were great seat. Front row along the bowl of the stadium.
Ironic. My example to my kids about how these things have changed is that in 1995, I paid $75 whole dollars to see the Eagles--all of them--in Milwaukee. And that was a really expensive concert ticket back then.
It was a great show.
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yup, I'm not payin $375 to see a shell of a band out of their prime when 30 years ago I paid $75 to see them in their prime
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I have my first Rush ticket stub.
$12 in 1979.
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September 9, 1982
Omaha, Nebraska
Civic Auditorium Arena
I have mine somewhere in the house
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Greatest Cleveland concerts: No. 12 – Rush's Time Machine
Rush performed in Northeast Ohio more than 30 times, but it was the band's April 15, 2011, concert that would forever be immortalized.
Flashback: Cleveland became the first U.S. market to endorse Rush when WMMS music director Donna Halper put the song "Working Man" into heavy rotation after she got her hands on the Canadian band's self-titled debut album in spring 1974.
It's on the back of the album in the liner notes: "With Special Thanks to Donna Halper of WMMS in Cleveland for getting the ball rolling". or sumsuch
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Yeah I don't pay modern day concert ticket prices, I just can't do it. I hate people and therefore hate big venues anyway.
Only exception is for Formula 1, where I'm paying for the entire race weekend and so the concerts are free for me, I'd be going to the race even without the music.
Speaking of which, the US Grand Prix is next weekend. This year's main act is Garth Brooks, who I saw for free at the State Fair of Texas after the 1990 TX-OU game in the Cotton Bowl. Horns won that game 14-13, we watched Garth Brooks play a kickass show at the Chevrolet main stage afterward, went out to dinner at my favorite Italian joint in Dallas, Campisi's, and then took my date back to the hotel and had a very enjoyable evening. Great day for a college freshman.
But that needs to go on the things that make you happy thread...
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My favorite thing is my $28 1980 season ticket to Ohio State football. included all home games except the home opener
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We get season tickets to the symphony, it's a 6 event package, somewhere around $100 per per. We "usually" enjoy it. We get invited to some special events which can be fun, like rehearsals (one time was enough for me, got it).
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I miss Roller Derby
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I miss Roller Derby
Fort Myers Roller Derby (https://fortmyersrollerderby.com/)
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Real pros appreciating the purity of the Sport :clap:
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My favorite thing is my $28 1980 season ticket to Ohio State football. included all home games except the home opener
no reason to be grumpy
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Ironic. My example to my kids about how these things have changed is that in 1995, I paid $75 whole dollars to see the Eagles--all of them--in Milwaukee. And that was a really expensive concert ticket back then.
It was a great show.
I'm not going to look it up on inflation calculator but isn't that about like $200-300 in today's money? Not really that cheap.
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That being said, I spur-of-the-moment, day-of went to see Jimmy Buffett in Phx...and then he dies 2 years later. So I'm glad I went.
I mean, the man was in his mid-70's when you saw him in concert...are you really surprised he was dead a few years later? I remember thinking when he died amazing he lived that long.
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I'm not going to look it up on inflation calculator but isn't that about like $200-300 in today's money? Not really that cheap.
I looked it up and it should be about $158 in 2025 dollars.
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I looked it up and it should be about $158 in 2025 dollars.
Yeah, and it felt like a lot to pay. That was a really expensive ticket at the time. I feel like $158 is about average nowadays (for a major touring act).
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I mean, the man was in his mid-70's when you saw him in concert...are you really surprised he was dead a few years later? I remember thinking when he died amazing he lived that long.
Saw Jeff Beck in phoenix a couple of months before he died, was still great.
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Guess I am getting old, going to get my ears checked for hearing aids today. Probably too much loud rock music.
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I'm having a decent day, so I'm not grumpy, not anything major, just routine and the weather is great.
I was over in the park working out some, a bit sore, not bad. Wife is making a sandwich just now, she makes great sandwiches.
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I looked it up and it should be about $158 in 2025 dollars.
Well, to be fair, there is a fairly limited supply of Rush concerts, in my opinion. Whereas, back in 1995, they probably had hundreds of shows left to play in their lifetime. And they were already past their prime at that point. In 1995, although Rush regularly received radio play, when was their last true hit? I was never a big fan, so I really have no idea when their peak was, but it's my impression they were a 70's band, and never did much in the 80's. I could be wrong, I really didn't start listening to much rock music until the late 80's. I was a big fan of Def Lepperd.
To tell you the truth, I was a product of the MTV era, and I don't believe Rush ever did much, or anything at all, with MTV, so they were completely off the radar by the 90's. Contrast that with somebody like Aerosmith and Tom Petty, who were big on MTV all through the 80's and 90's and were still hugely popular even though the band was first popularized in the 70's.
So you combine the fact that there is probably a very limited supply of Rush concerts even left, and an aging but prosperous fan base, I'm not shocked at all the price was quite high.
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Do any of you get into the situation where you want something, and you can afford it, but when you actually see the price tag you realize "no effing way" because you've anchored in very old ideas about what some things should cost?
I logged into the Rush ticket sale. I was pretty early in the queue and when I got in, there were a LOT of tickets available.
Prior to logging in, I thought, "$300 seems like a good upper limit" for tickets. Especially since I know we'd have to drive to LA, which is annoying, my wife doesn't even know/like Rush or their music, so although she'd be completely supportive and go with me, I know her ticket is a bit of a wasted expense, etc... So I figured $600 for the two of us for a night out was about as much as anyone should reasonably have to pay.
So... I get in and set the slider to a max of $300. And immediately every part of the Forum seating that isn't an absolute upper deck nosebleed disappears. So I set the slider to $350. No change. Slide it to $400. Ahh! Some things open up! I find two good tickets for a combined $790.
But... Do I really want to spend $800 on a concert? For a band I've actually seen once before (which I could somehow afford when I was a damn poor college student!), when one of the original band members isn't even alive? No! That's ridiculous!
And yet... I can afford it. I'm not saying $800 is nothing. I'm by no means "rich". But I've reached a point in my life and career, where I can treat myself to things... Especially since there are very few times that I actually spend a lot of money on myself. I could buy those tickets and feel not even the slightest twinge financially.
But $800 just seems like too much.
So I closed the browser window in disgust, went and mashed some pedals on the Peloton to get some frustration out, and I'm consigning myself to maybe checking out as we get closer to the date of the show if interest wanes and they get cheaper (unlikely, of course).
Last season, I really wanted to go to an A&M game where the outcome was important (news flash, it ended up not being important). I had not been to an A&M game in several years, but the reality of it is that I only ever went to games that didn't matter, because I wanted cheap seats, didn't want to fight the excess crowds, and in general just apathy. I hadn't been to a true "game that mattered" since I was a student. In fact, I have only attended a few games at all in the last 25 years, like 10 total. I really can't remember all of them, but it's been completely sporadic at best, with years sometimes between.
Anyways, I bought some really expensive tickets to the LSU game last year, which we won. It was a tight contest for 3/4 of the game, and we broke it open in the 4th Q. I took my son, and we had great seats. I think the tickets cost $1800. It was one of the best experiences I ever had at a game, and I don't regret spending the money at all.
All that to say, sometimes you just got to say fuck it and not worry about the money. If you really want to see Rush, don't cheap out. Find the best seats you can comfortably afford, and enjoy the show. You'll probably never get the chance to see them again.
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Rush achieved stardom in 1980 with the release of Permanent Waves which hit #4 in the US.
That success continued with Moving Pictures (1981), Signals (1982), Grace Under Pressure (1984), Power Windows (1985), Hold Your Fire (1987), Presto (1989), Roll the Bones (1991), Counterparts (1993) and finally Test for Echo (1996)
Then they took 5 years off when Neil's wife and daughter died.
Vapor Trails (2002) reached #6 in the US. Snakes and Arrows (2007) reached #3.
Clockwork Angels (2012) reached #2 and was the last studio album.
R40 (40 year anniversary tour) was 2015, and was the last effort before Neil died.
Yes, I did look some of this up (the charting stuff). They had a great run.
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Huskers will be playin for a national tile before I'm willing to spend $1800
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Huskers will be playin for a national tile before I'm willing to spend $1800
I pretended like I was saving money since I haven’t been to a game in years. I think I’m going to “save money “ again this year.
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I paid $300 / seat for the 1994 season, 1995 Orange Bowl - Tom Osborne's first MNC vs Miami
not sure what that is figuring inflation but, it was worth it! Great seats
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One of our two elevators is out since last Friday so I've been taking the stairs for some ups and downs. Yesterday I misstepped on a stair and took a tumble, hit both knee caps on the concrete and twisted an ankle and scraped a finger. I sat there a minute and it seemed it was not that bad, so I hobbled around to get the mail and whatnot. Felt OK an hour later, nothing really amiss. This morning however I was and am feeling it, obviously at my age stuff doesn't heal or resolve like it once did. So, I'm taking it easy as we expect to walk quite a bit on the vacation.
It could have been worse, I need to be more careful. I took my eye off the last step to check the door release button and didn't notice I was a step above where I thought.
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you're right again...
be more careful
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I've had a crick in my neck for the last two days.
When I was younger, I didn't even realize that sleeping was something that could be done wrong.
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Ha! did the same thing to my lower back Sunday Night/Monday Morning still bothering me this morning.Might have to hit the Rec Center pool, best excersize for back/neck alignment as being bouyant and stretched out everything seemingly falla back into place.Best thing is once I emerge from the locker room in my swimming trunks I have the whole place to myself in less than 5 minutes
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Starting in my 30's I used to get these horrible cricks in my neck after sleeping wrong (HTF do you do it wrong?). Anyways they would usually go away in a few days, but eventually I started getting them so bad it would last like a week. I finally started going to the chiropractor and that helped a lot. Instant relief, and then usually they'd like to see me a couple more times but honestly once they popped my neck it was much better. Anyways it usually only happened once or twice a year, and then it started happening more and more frequently especially in my 40's. About 5 years ago (maybe more but time flies) I bought this huge "wedge" pillow. Damn thing is like maybe 2 feet wide and has about a 30 degree incline. I just noticed that every time I would sleep "wrong" essentially what happened is my pillow would shift weirdly during the night and my neck would be in an awkward position. Anyways it' so big it doesn't really move at night, I can shift all around it stays put. The pains almost immediately stopped, now I very rarely have any pains at all, and if I do it's very mild.
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I started back to working out after three weeks of vacay and bronchitis, and I'm amazingly sore.
We went on a walk today, nothing serious, the botanical garden and around the park, nice stroll, and I'm in pain. These 117 year old joints ain't what they used to be.
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Starting in my 30's I used to get these horrible cricks in my neck after sleeping wrong (HTF do you do it wrong?). Anyways they would usually go away in a few days, but eventually I started getting them so bad it would last like a week. I finally started going to the chiropractor and that helped a lot. Instant relief, and then usually they'd like to see me a couple more times but honestly once they popped my neck it was much better. Anyways it usually only happened once or twice a year, and then it started happening more and more frequently especially in my 40's. About 5 years ago (maybe more but time flies) I bought this huge "wedge" pillow. Damn thing is like maybe 2 feet wide and has about a 30 degree incline. I just noticed that every time I would sleep "wrong" essentially what happened is my pillow would shift weirdly during the night and my neck would be in an awkward position. Anyways it' so big it doesn't really move at night, I can shift all around it stays put. The pains almost immediately stopped, now I very rarely have any pains at all, and if I do it's very mild.
Any link where to buy the pillow?
Do they make it in ogre size?
#askingforafriend
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(https://i.imgur.com/PuxQWRa.png)
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I realized why @Gigem (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1706) has so far not provided said link...
...because he doesn't want us to know he bought a sex pillow "for his neck" :57:
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I realized why @Gigem (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1706) has so far not provided said link...
...because he doesn't want us to know he bought a sex pillow "for his neck" :57:
Here you go, bastage...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SQYSRPQ?ref_=ppx_hzod_title_dt_b_fed_asin_title_0_0&th=1
I only use the side for the head, the other half is sitting in the back of the closet somewhere.
It helped me tremendously.
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Here you go, bastage...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SQYSRPQ?ref_=ppx_hzod_title_dt_b_fed_asin_title_0_0&th=1
I only use the side for the head, the other half is sitting in the back of the closet somewhere.
It helped me tremendously.
Thanks. Just ordered it. They mention it can help snoring (which is sometimes a problem) and acid reflux (also sometimes). I prefer to sleep on my back but that exacerbates snoring, which sometimes means my wife less-than-gently suggests I should roll over. So if this helps that as well, even better.
Do you use a pillow on top of it, or just use it as your only pillow?
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Thanks. Just ordered it. They mention it can help snoring (which is sometimes a problem) and acid reflux (also sometimes). I prefer to sleep on my back but that exacerbates snoring, which sometimes means my wife less-than-gently suggests I should roll over. So if this helps that as well, even better.
Do you use a pillow on top of it, or just use it as your only pillow?
You just need to see how you like it. Sometimes I use a really thin pillow, but usually nothing else. I'm also a side sleeper, so what works for me may not work for you.
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I realized why @Gigem (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1706) has so far not provided said link...
...because he doesn't want us to know he bought a sex pillow "for his neck" :57:
based on the link, i think you were correct. I shouldn't have avoided this thread so long. it's a good one
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Old fellow I sorta know got on elevator with me and started complaining about how late the mail delivery is now.
"It used to be 3 PM, now we're lucky if it's by 6."
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PM???
y'all must live in the South
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We do.
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PM???
y'all must live in the South
how would you describe 3 or 6 PM in the North. 3 in the afternoon? 6 in the evening ?
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I think it takes'em a while to get their mule up into them hollers.
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how would you describe 3 or 6 PM in the North. 3 in the afternoon? 6 in the evening ?
the mail is delivered in the AM
3 in the afternoon??? only 2 hours to quittin time
6 in the evening, Damn! happy hour is over!
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Happy hour starts at Noon here, and we don't care what's in the mail because it's all junk.
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Happy hour started at 1pm yesterday
(https://i.imgur.com/O7xmTgN.jpeg)
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Happy hour in Vegas 8am
(https://i.imgur.com/t8vKWxl.jpeg)
[img width=258.323 height=500]https://i.imgur.com/dUhuvKj.jpeg[/img]
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Damn beer in the desert,what a novel idea
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it's always happy hour in Vegas
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Happy hour started at 1pm yesterday
(https://i.imgur.com/O7xmTgN.jpeg)
Looks like a proper pub to me,they're serious too.I see some Draught beer disciples :singing:
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they do sell bottles and cans for the unwashed, but ya don't see one in that Friday afternoon pic
Home of the Morningside Mustang football squad - The 2018, 2019, and 2021 undefeated seasons and won NAIA national championships.
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Had my colonoscopy today. Didn't find anything serious, but best case is only a 5 year stint until I have to do it again.
And the kicker? No booze or exercise for 10-14 days.
WTF am I going to do with myself?
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F that doc
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Had my colonoscopy today. Didn't find anything serious, but best case is only a 5 year stint until I have to do it again.
And the kicker? No booze or exercise for 10-14 days.
Well, there's a lot of good doctors keep on tellin' me
"You'd better start slowin' it down"
But there're more old drunks than there are old doctors
So I guess we'd better have another round
- "I Gotta Get Drunk" by Willie Nelson
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after last night, I oughta outlive a couple doctors
I'm not grumpy about it.
free beer is the best beer
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after last night, I oughta outlive a couple doctors
I'm not grumpy about it.
free beer is the best beer
I wondered why you were late to the party today.
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well, the laptop didn't like the wifi in the hotel room.
open wifi wasn't secure enough apparently. Phone connected right up.
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my workout regiment is set for today.
5-6 inches of white crap on the driveway and still coming down
the only question is....... snowblower or shovel
and by the way, no stream of consciousness for the last weekend of the regular season? WTH?
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driveway and sidewalk are clean - shovel does the best job
no longer grumpy
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Back went out this morning, been a few years since that happened. Managed to avoid the "full outage" and I expect I'll be able to go to work on Monday, but I'm definitely down for the weekend.
Grumpy.
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what went out?
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I'm callin Bullshite!
11 below zero is too damned cold!
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what went out?
My back.
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bummer dude
I know how ya feel. Not today but for most of my life
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F'ing AC went out AGAIN.
This GD AC company sucks ass. They were just here a week ago and gave the system a clean bill of health.
F these guys.
FIRED!
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Sitting in airport waiting on my flight. Yes I am grumpy
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sittin in the house waiting for it to warm up
it is up to 4 above!
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Flex just threw a "Check Charging System" light and power steering turned off exactly at that moment. FFS. Had to take the wife's car to get charcoal.
Once this fog lifts I'll make the usual checks but I fear it's alternator and it'll need to go to the shop.
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F'ing AC went out AGAIN.
This GD AC company sucks ass. They were just here a week ago and gave the system a clean bill of health.
F these guys.
FIRED!
I thought you said it was cold there?
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Flex just threw a "Check Charging System" light and power steering turned off exactly at that moment. FFS. Had to take the wife's car to get charcoal.
Once this fog lifts I'll make the usual checks but I fear it's alternator and it'll need to go to the shop.
yer a big guy, my first car didn't have power steering
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California's making him soft.
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I'm kinda more worried about being stranded by the side of the road due to a dead alternator.
My first car didn't have power steering either.
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I thought you said it was cold there?
Not today. It's about 80 at the moment, and fairly humid.
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Hmm... First thing I checked was the battery (car off), terminals were nice and secure, and it read just over 12V so that's good. Then checked continuity on a couple of fuses related to the alternator, by pulling them and checking with a multimeter. All good. Reinserted fuses.
Fired up the car, plugged in the OBD reader. Said 14.4V voltage--so all good if the alternator is working. Got out and checked the voltage at the battery with it running... 14.4V. So all good if the alternator is working.
Closed the hood, put it in gear, moved a little bit. Didn't get another check charging system notification...
Might have to take it for a little spin around the neighborhood later when my wife gets back to see what happens.
Hoping it was just nothing, or that pulling/reseating fuses fixed a weak connection. Hoping it's not a gremlin that's just going to start disappearing/reappearing at random.
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well, it's a Ford
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Hungry, cranky and heading to the hospital to have some work done on my right leg.
Heart and left leg are now clean, and this should be that last part.
All those years of eating crappy and smoking cigars got to me. Pretty dumb for a supposedly intelligent person.
Makes me both happy and grumpy that I've met my out of pocket (happy), so I have 2 more free things coming this year yet (grumpy).
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good luck
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All those years of eating crappy and smoking cigars got to me. Pretty dumb for a supposedly intelligent person.
I assure you, you are hardly alone, if that's any comfort.
Good luck, Badge! Keep us updated.
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Yup--good luck, and think of the good things, not the crappy ones.
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yup, get the day started.............
no coffee maker in the room at the Moxy, fine put on pants and head downstairs, grab 2 large coffees, back to the room....... key card won't work
takes the lady at the desk 5 minutes to figure it out
why don't things just work?
on a better note, the coffee id pretty good
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Hungry, cranky and heading to the hospital to have some work done on my right leg.
All those years of eating crappy and smoking cigars got to me. Pretty dumb for a supposedly intelligent person.
I assure you, you are hardly alone, if that's any comfort.
Good luck, Badge! Keep us updated.
Guilty - but it was fun from what I can recall
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yup, get the day started.............
no coffee maker in the room at the Moxy, fine put on pants and head downstairs, grab 2 large coffees, back to the room....... key card won't work
takes the lady at the desk 5 minutes to figure it out
why don't things just work?
on a better note, the coffee id pretty good
Don't you know where you are?
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yes, in the age of computers where life will be easier because of technology
the old school hard metal key of my youth would have worked this morning
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Ah harkeng back through the dim mists of antiquity
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Heading home today, but flight leaves at 9 PM, not much to do with the day. Goes through SLC.
Long flights meh.
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daughters gift is a turntable with speakers - nice little sound system
That made me happy
just got home and put it together to fire it up and give it a listen........... the turntable doesn't spin!
That made me grumpy!!!
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Kids running around in the Delta lounge …..and I’m tired. No discipline.
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One of our HVACs is struggling, the building apparently "cleaned up the water system" while we were gone. My guess is some gunk hot into our innards. My HVAC guy is coming Friday. The upstairs unit is working normally. I coaxed the troubled unit to warm the place to 70°F where it's holding, for now, but it's quite warm here, maybe record high T today.
I have baseball coming up soon, so I expect to hit the park today for some throwing and running.
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We keep the house at 75.
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66 in the winter - 78 in the summer
not grumpy
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Ya 78 in the summer,Cindy wants 72 otherwise so the fire place worx. Other wise I might do 68 but lower than that is meat locker zone. Any way gotta go Christmas shopping,wish someone would give me a heads up on these things
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I set the thermostat about 2 months out of the year (peak summer A/C). I don't run heat in the winter.
Wait, this is the "happy" thread, right?
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https://twitter.com/MissionSJC/status/2003548793925492822
FFS.
What is wrong with people?
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Supposedly we set a record for CE today high T. I was out throwing, it was kind of warmish. Supposedly 75°F. My watch says 72.
Given our main HVAC is having some issues this is OK with me.
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vandals make me grumpy
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vandals make me grumpy
(https://images.footballfanatics.com/idaho-vandals/idaho-vandals-175-x-175-mascot-modern-disc-wall-sign_pi4142000_ff_4142204-3edc6a9b6bb5426b3fba_full.jpg?_hv=2)
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No heat in the winter, 80 in the summer
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I started buying a few silver 1 ounce "rounds" a few years back just to have some in case of something. I remember paying $22 or so, then $27, then it went near $40 and I stopped buying any, I was buying maybe 6-8 at a time. Now it's $75. Holy Hunt Brothers.
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I started buying a few silver 1 ounce "rounds" a few years back just to have some in case of something. I remember paying $22 or so, then $27, then it went near $40 and I stopped buying any, I was buying maybe 6-8 at a time. Now it's $75. Holy Hunt Brothers.
And you're grumpy about your investment success? :smiley_confused1:
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Apparently if you complete the parent portion of a FAFSA, there is no way that you can hide your income from your student... WTF?
First of all, he doesn't need to know what I or my wife earn. Second of all, the last person I need that shit leaked to is his mom.
C'mon, gov't. You provide parents a separate login. Is there *no* way that you can then segment that information so the student can't see it? It's not like he's the one making financial aid decisions.
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you're not forced to complete the parent portion of a FAFSA
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you're not forced to complete the parent portion of a FAFSA
I believe you are or else they forfeit any opportunity for aid.
Not like it'll matter. If I fill it out it's not like he'll get aid anyway.
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see that's the deal, you fill it out and allow your child and Ex full disclosure while having no chance at any aid
it's glorious
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My HVAC guy said our HVAC is full of crap, and he can't get back until Wednesday, so it's shut down. He says if I run it, I run the risk of damaging the compressor. No big deal today, it's still warm, but about to get chilly.
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I was running sprints on vacation and pulled up with a "mild" hamstring strain, if there is such a thing. It of course lingers, and I'm being very cautious not wanting to aggravate it, and I start baseball in two weeks and need to run sprints a lot now. I'm doing careful stretching and some light weight leg curls (which really seem to stress the hammy). My step son gave me a portable massage gun.
How to use a massage gun or vibration massager | How to use a hand held massager (https://www.drgraeme.com/articles/2024/05/how-to-use-a-massager)
The therapeutic uses seem to be, well, debated, but it does feel pretty good. I wonder if folks here use such a device beneficially, and how. I also ordered a thigh compression wrap hoping that keeps my 147 year old muscles from moving about. Cold? Heat?
Any advice? I really want to be able to run at baseball. I pulled it on the last day last year and that wasn't fun, same side, but it was the last day.
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I have a massager like that. I find that electric stim is better.
InTENSity 10 Digital TENS Unit | TENSPros.com (https://www.tenspros.com/intensity-10-digital-tens-unit-di1010.html)
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any thing over a brisk walk is dangerous at my age
of course you know this
I've not tried a hand held massager - I'd guess the young lady at the parlor would be a better option as she's a trained professional and not just an "expert"
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Maybe also look into a foam roller?
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I have one of these, and they are pretty sweet.
(https://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/GUEST_695c1a54-eb73-47ee-988a-e482fbfe5b1c?qlt=65&fmt=webp&hei=350&wid=350)
Can't find the damn charger though.
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any thing over a brisk walk is dangerous at my age
That you prolly get from your stool at the bar to the men's room or from the fairway to the shrubs
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The words "stool" and "men's room" should probably not be in the same sentence ...
My leg "feels" better today, so far, but I am pretty sure it would go out easily. I'm going to stick to walking, mostly.
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I usually plan ahead and have little need to walk briskly
maybe on my way to the bar before the end of happy hour
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There are several reasons old guys shouldn't attempt to play baseball. Softball? Maybe, have at it. Usually coed.
But baseball with guys half my age? Wouldn't be prudent.
You sit around getting stiff and then have to run flat out. You throw day after day, even without pitching until you are turns to rubber, and heaven forbid you actually pitch. Then you may well get hit with the odd bounce off a grounder if playing infield, forget catching. Nothing like a sharply hit baseball in the stomach or thigh or biceps in the morning. Then you wash it all down with free beer in the clubhouse and then free drinks at dinner.
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free drinks at dinner will allow for some illogical ideas about playing again the next morning
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The after dinner events are where the hijinks really get going. The liquor is flowing and some folks do get hammered and then show up late the next day, which results of course in fines.
We have "Kangaroo Court" each morning which is one of the really fun things at this gig. Showing up late is ... ill advised.
Fortunately, for me, I go with my wife and we stay at the Hampton. The hijinks are at the campus where the players stay during Spring Training. I went one night to see what it was all about, it wasn't as wooly as I had heard, but it was pretty wooly.
Bull Durham (1988) - Getting Woolly Scene (6/12) | Movieclips (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EroyjPcw3sg)
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so, that's your motivation
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Downstairs HVAC is still off. It dropped unto the 20s last night, it's still tolerable inside. Our bedroom has a separate unit upstairs which is working. Heat rises though.
My wife talked me into buying a "fake fireplace" a couple years back. To me, it's a complete waste, we almost never turn it own, and the appearance is fakey fake. BUT ... it has a resistance heat function which I am now using in the middle floor to provide a modicum of heat.
My office here I am now is on the bottom floor and it's cool here but "OK". Dude said he would come tomorrow to flush the system and get back on line.
It's sunny today but 32°F.
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abundant sunshine here, expected high of 54. Kinda grumpy that it's gonna be 41 back home.
long ways to drive to gain merely 13 degrees
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abundant sunshine here, expected high of 54. Kinda grumpy that it's gonna be 41 back home.
long ways to drive to gain merely 13 degrees
How long are you staying? Gonna hit 85 here on Friday. Fore!
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I have a tee time for Friday
hopefully be here until Sunday morning
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(https://i.imgur.com/dRQMxaJ.png)
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I assume none on this board saw midnight. As it should be for the old.
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I'm your Huckleberry!
made it to 11:45
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I assume none on this board saw midnight. As it should be for the old.
I did, but I don't remember a thing. A little foggy at the moment, which I hate.
Grumpy.
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I wasn't in the mood for a party after the Husker performance
not much drinking, maybe an all time low for me on NYE (kinda grumpy about it)
feeling crisp this morning
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I'll fix that for ya.
https://twitter.com/colecubelic/status/2006518797805436986 (https://twitter.com/colecubelic/status/2006518797805436986)
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Yikes. Kicking the man while he's down...
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I'm grumpy.
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I think 30 straight is Rhule's record at Baylor and Nebraska vs AP ranked 11 & 9.
but, I get the point
better to be losing to good teams than teams like Minnesooota
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No shit.
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I assume none on this board saw midnight. As it should be for the old.
I did. The kids are too old to fall for the "East Coast New Year's" trick but not old enough to all be out of the house. So we all made it to midnight.
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I made it to about 9:45.
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I assume none on this board saw midnight. As it should be for the old.
made it to 10pm after the game
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I made it to about 9:45.
didn't see midnight
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I assume none on this board saw midnight. As it should be for the old.
I almost made it this year. Only came 30 mins short.
Probably because that's when the fireworks in my neighborhood stopped. Apparently even the neighbors' kids have trouble making it til midnight. That, or their dad can't make it either and doesn't let them do fireworks without him.
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I made it til about 12:10. Watched whatever countdown was Central timezone, drank a little Champagne, kissed my i s c & a aggie wife, and went to bed.
The kids were already asleep. Their plans with their friends petered out around 10:00.
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In my neighborhood there just cant be any sleeping untill 1 am
It like a war zone
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Is my car just a goddamned magnet? I mean, it's a Ford Flex. It's not small and inconspicuous.
At yet today is the THIRD time I've gotten rear-ended. FFS!
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well, yer obviously going TOO slow.......... it is a Ford
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Cali drivers...
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Is my car just a goddamned magnet? I mean, it's a Ford Flex. It's not small and inconspicuous.
At yet today is the THIRD time I've gotten rear-ended. FFS!
That sucks, sorry to hear.
It reminds me that back in high school and college my car was hit 3 or 4 times while parked....I was never in it. Thankfully, I've never had a "moving" wreck.....it lead me to conclude back then that I must be a pretty good driver but a crappy parker.
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Related to what I just read on the retirement thread, I've had several adults, likely in their 30s, call me "sir" to my face in the last week or so with the subtext being that I was their elder. That weirded me out--and made me grumpy.
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that hasn't happened to me much yet, but it's coming
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This may go on the Tech Nerd thread, but since I'm grumpy about it, here it is:
One of the many meaningless tasks I perform is to upload certain university data to this Clearinghouse outfit so they can Get Meaningful Insights for universities and Provide Important Metrics That Definitely Matter And Amount To Things. This data has to be formatted in a very specific way, and running the reports off of our server doesn't quite cut it. It needs some formatting and things added, changed, etc.
Excel is an ideal tool for this, but once I realized I didn't want to memorize the steps, read instructions every semester, or basically be bothered with it as much as possible, I wrote a Python script that takes my database report and spits out a correctly-formatted .csv file I can then upload. The whole thing should take less than a couple of minutes, boom, done.
Apparently in November, the Clearinghouse updated their platform, and it no longer accepts the standard .csv format where null values between delimiters (commas) don't matter. They switched to a stricter file parsing protocol where it matters how many commas the header has....I think it's called "fixed-header format" or something like that. What this means, in English, is that when you have a spreadsheet with a bunch of columns, but you insert a header row with only a few columns, when Excel (or Python, or just about anything) saves to a .csv file, it treats the first row as if it has as many columns as the rest of the rows, and in a standard text editor, you'd see a bunch of commas with nothing between them, indicating empty values. So for example, if your spreadsheet has 10 columns, but your header row (1st row) only has a couple of things, it looks like this: Column 1, Column 2,,,,,,,, <--- All those extra commas are created by default because the rest of the document utilizes that space, and virtually all parsing systems are cool with that. Now, this dumb thing has to be: Column 1, Column 2 <--- for the first row only, and it fails the upload if there's any more commas than that.
1) This is dumb. There's been standard parsing for .csv files forever, and it's completely unnecessary to make stricter parsing standards for a header. It doesn't hurt anything, and nearly the entire world operates on the same protocol, and so did their system, until just recently.
2) Yes, I can open the files in a text editor and manually edit them. But that defeats the whole point of automating this. And to be clear, the files are quite a bit more complicated than the small example I gave. Sitting here straining over their newly required header format on their website to figure out how many commas I need, and where, is annoying.
3) Off the top of my head, I don't know how to fix my script. Doesn't matter what I do in my coding, once Python (or anything) spits out a .csv, it creates all those commas automatically. I'm sure there's a fix, but I'm not enough of a programmer to know what it is.
Tryna do one little thing that I actually went to school for, and these morons are throwing a wrench in the works.
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Can you run a post-processing script on the output .csv file to reformat it correctly? I don't know Python but I've worked with every shell scripting language ever invented for UNIX and have done things like that before.
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I can't, but I'm sure it can be done.
Maybe with some free time and help from ChatGPT I could figure something out.
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Can you set up a script file that calls other scripts and then returns to that mother script when the process or application is complete? I used to have scripts that were set to run big batch jobs in various applications, but files might need some manipulation either pre- or post-processing, or both.
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One question that comes to mind almost daily is whether most everything has become A) a steadily worse version of what it used to be? Or whether B) it's part of me growing older that what I grew up with will always seem better than what we get now? IOW, is the culture and the creative output of what we grew up with better than the culture now?
I think it's a bit of both, but the former (A) - that examples like film and top 40 music getting worse - is MUCH more to blame. Just about every bit of sports, entertainment, and pop culture in general has and continues to devolve for the worse compared to my time enjoying sports and entertainments in the 90s and 2000s. Pick any example you want, and across the board most any film franchise or sport has become less interesting to follow and feels hollow. Just look at our Death of CFB thread.
Another reason to believe that the former (A) is to blame is the overdrive of nostalgia you see for the 1980s/90s. Nostalgia has always maintained a presence in current entertainment, and its range usually extends 20-40 years back. In the 1970s the nostalgia entertainment focused on the 1940s/50s. But what you see today with seemingly every film a remake/reboot from an 80s/90s property is on hyper-drive. In this case, the 1980s/90s are being mined by Hollywood and the music industry because their originality has fallen off, meaning yes, in general everything has become steadily worse.
Lastly (and just look at our Death of CFB thread), another part of what makes everything worse, is how much harder it is to keep up anything. The changes to college football come much more quickly and decisively to the point it is no longer the sport I grew up with. Another example is Star Wars. I can't keep up with all the Disney Plus SW shows and would rather watch the older movies that I enjoyed as a kid.
It's driven me into reading older books, play-listing older music, appreciating friends that shared past times with me, and spending more time around my animals - Cats and Dogs are just as enjoyable of a presence as they were when I was a kid. And that seems like an older person response to no longer being served or entertained by the current times.
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^^^ Grumpy Old Man status achieved!
But I totally get it....
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That's a true grumpy old man post and I'm here to applaud it!
Emotionally I want to agree with everything stated.
Intellectually I find myself disagreeing with a fair portion of it.
It warrants a longer response and I'm about to go get some Torchy's for lunch, but hopefully my grumpy old man brain remembers to check this thread and respond further, a little later.
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It warrants a longer response and I'm about to go get some Torchy's for lunch, but hopefully my grumpy old man brain remembers to check this thread and respond further, a little later.
Flagged.
Everything to do with Torchy's goes in the What Made Me Happy Today thread.
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the Microsoft Outlook I'm using since April last year sucks compared to what I had previously
makes me grumpy
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One question that comes to mind almost daily is whether most everything has become A) a steadily worse version of what it used to be? Or whether B) it's part of me growing older that what I grew up with will always seem better than what we get now? IOW, is the culture and the creative output of what we grew up with better than the culture now?
I don't think that it is A, in general.
I ascribe to the Sturgeon's Law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon's_law) explanation... "Ninety percent of everything is crud." And then you compare that with B, nostalgia, and we tend to have a selective memory about the past.
I.e. we largely remember the good things from the past more than the ninety percent. Whereas the present day, we're exposed to and focus on the entirety. So when we only remember the ten percent from the past and compare them to today's ninety percent, invariably we will think the past is better.
Now, there are other factors... I think with the rise of things like streaming services and the development of far more "niche" groups consuming content, there is a push to increase volume of content and that doesn't always mean you can keep the same quality. Back in the day, you had 3-4 major networks (4 incl. Fox which came later), and you had a limited number of screens to show movies. There was a scarcity issue that essentially FORCED content creators to try to rise above the median quality... It was a natural filter. Now you have everybody that wants as much content as possible, and they know that they aren't going to be able to grab nearly the same "mass" market attention so the ROI is smaller. So the "I" has to become smaller. You simply can't invest as much.
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The nostalgia for the past created the reboot movie culture. You go to the theatre, and there's a bunch of lame crap that you've never heard of that looks awful, and then "oh look, a new Jurassic Park. I remember Jurassic Park." So you go to that, and it winds up being worse than the lame crap that you've never heard of that looks awful.
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no need to get grumpy about the movie theatre, simply avoid it.
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The movie theater might be a good example of something that HAS gotten better over time... Better picture, better sound, comfy reclining chairs and a little button to summon the wait staff to bring me another beer.
We don't go often, but when there's something we want to see, it's a better experience than it was.
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The movie theater might be a good example of something that HAS gotten better over time... Better picture, better sound, comfy reclining chairs and a little button to summon the wait staff to bring me another beer.
We don't go often, but when there's something we want to see, it's a better experience than it was.
Yeah this was going to be one of my counterpoints to Catsby's initial post. There are several things that are objectively better than they were in the "good old days" and the movie experience is one of them.
CD brings it up often but it bears repeating-- cars are vastly improved compared to 30-40 years ago. They're more reliable, safer, more comfortable, faster for the same sized engine displacements, more fuel efficient, and all sorts of other improvements. Sure they're more expensive, but everything is.
As far as music-- every generation complains about the "new music" being worse than what they grew up with. But first of all, that's a subjective matter of taste. Most people I know who are my age, just listen to the same stuff they were listening to 30 years ago. And that's fine, listen to what you like. I'm very much on record as being a great lover of 80s music and that's still a large portion of what I listen to.
But I also intentionally spend scores of hours every year scouring the airwaves and the internet for new music. It's a hobby and a passion and I can tell you there is a LOT of great new music released all the time. And one of the greatest things about now, compared to decades ago, is the access and availability of it. No longer am I restricted to what mainstream radio or MTV clues me into. No longer am I bound by what the record labels think will make the most money, regardless of quality. There are now so many avenues to obtain good new music, be it recorded or live, that it's almost an embarrassment of riches. Sure the market is more fractured and you have to search a little harder for it, but there's plenty of it out there.
I have more thoughts on all of this, I'll add more later.
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I don't think that it is A, in general.
I ascribe to the Sturgeon's Law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon's_law) explanation... "Ninety percent of everything is crud." And then you compare that with B, nostalgia, and we tend to have a selective memory about the past.
This is a great point that I’m glad you brought up. Taking sitcoms from my childhood, I remember watching Full House, Saved By the Bell, Family Matters, and Home Improvement. I remember liking those shows as a kid. But looking back, I admittedly watched these not because they were good but merely because they happened to be on TV after school.
In the past five years I’ve come across reruns for these shows on various digital broadcast channels, and except for Home Improvement, the other three are woefully unwatchable. If those exact shows aired today as new shows I would not get through a single episode. And the brief nostalgia you see for these shows, IMO, has more to do with scraping for "comfort watches" from the childhood era of when these shows originally aired. If they aired today as new shows, they would be soon forgotten as the 90% crude.
As far as music-- every generation complains about the "new music" being worse than what they grew up with. But first of all, that's a subjective matter of taste. Most people I know who are my age, just listen to the same stuff they were listening to 30 years ago. And that's fine, listen to what you like. I'm very much on record as being a great lover of 80s music and that's still a large portion of what I listen to.
But I also intentionally spend scores of hours every year scouring the airwaves and the internet for new music. It's a hobby and a passion and I can tell you there is a LOT of great new music released all the time.
Music was the one art I was convinced had provably gotten worse. I’ve come across any number of commentaries pointing out how the sound of music has simplified and become less sophisticated since the 1970s. Two of the many reasons commonly cited for this are the digitization of music, putting more of the creative process through computer programs, and the rising importance of the artist’s image.
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It's hard to gauge "music" in general because there's just no way to take in all the music that's put out these days.
Everything that makes it to what passes for modern-day "mainstream" in my step-son's generation and Spotify's Top (Whatever, insert # here) which tends to pass my ears at some point......I can confidently say is "dumber" than most music used to be. The chords are repetitive and simple. Sometimes there's no real sectional definition, or sometimes the main hook is all there is. Something is definitely lost in instrumentation talent/ability/use, but OTOH, new synth technologies are being employed which involves way more engineering nerd-work on the front end than "playing ability" as we'd think of it, but that is still a musical skill (being a guy who plays multiple instruments and also having done some synth set-up and playing, that's my opinion, anyway), so in that way, newer music showcases some different musical ability, but musical ability nevertheless.
Every other criticism I have of modern music could arguably be thrust into the "that's just, like, your opinion, man" category (I would dispute that, but I don't have the interest to do so here), but it is the case that the structure of songs has decreased in intricacy and imagination. "Musical skill/talent" is kind of nebulous and possibly up for debate. "Songwriting" skill seems to be objectively decreasing, on the whole, in the stuff I come across.
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Forgot to add....
There's also sheer vocal ability, which I think is as solid/great now on the whole as it ever was, if not better. There are some tremendous singers out there these days.
That being said, for me, I think we've probably already witnessed what is likely to be the pinnacle of female singers, the departed Whitney Houston. It's possible someone could come along in my lifetime with a voice that I thought exceeded Whitney's, but it seems very unlikely to me. And I might well fail to recognize how great a voice is if for no other reason than Whitney sang a genre of music I like better than what's being offered today, or possibly in the future.
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It's hard to gauge "music" in general because there's just no way to take in all the music that's put out these days.
Everything that makes it to what passes for modern-day "mainstream" in my step-son's generation and Spotify's Top (Whatever, insert # here) which tends to pass my ears at some point......I can confidently say is "dumber" than most music used to be. The chords are repetitive and simple. Sometimes there's no real sectional definition, or sometimes the main hook is all there is. Something is definitely lost in instrumentation talent/ability/use, but OTOH, new synth technologies are being employed which involves way more engineering nerd-work on the front end than "playing ability" as we'd think of it, but that is still a musical skill (being a guy who plays multiple instruments and also having done some synth set-up and playing, that's my opinion, anyway), so in that way, newer music showcases some different musical ability, but musical ability nevertheless.
Every other criticism I have of modern music could arguably be thrust into the "that's just, like, your opinion, man" category (I would dispute that, but I don't have the interest to do so here), but it is the case that the structure of songs has decreased in intricacy and imagination. "Musical skill/talent" is kind of nebulous and possibly up for debate. "Songwriting" skill seems to be objectively decreasing, on the whole, in the stuff I come across.
You've admitted that the modern music you're talking about is the Spotify top whatever, in other words pop music, and I'd argue that it's no less sophisticated than the pop music from 40 years ago. Tiffany, Debbie Gibson, or Samantha Fox. These artists weren't paragons of talent and sophistication then, or now.
On the other hand, there's plenty of sophisictated music coming from talented musicisons, that you're just not listening to.
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What is one contemporary song I should listen to to see if I like it?
I gave up listening decades ago to anything "current".
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You've admitted that the modern music you're talking about is the Spotify top whatever, in other words pop music, and I'd argue that it's no less sophisticated than the pop music from 40 years ago. Tiffany, Debbie Gibson, or Samantha Fox. These artists weren't paragons of talent and sophistication then, or now.
On the other hand, there's plenty of sophisictated music coming from talented musicisons, that you're just not listening to.
That's quite possible.
But re: pop music from 40 years ago, objectively, those songs frequently made use of more than the hum-drum 1, 5, 6, 4 that is so prevalent now. In fact, that's why synths work so well in songs today (in the way they're being used as droning pads for multiple layered tracks)....because a simple open 1-5 drone works over all four of those chords. You can't get away with that in a lot of 80's pop, and unsurprisingly, there wasn't a lot of droning synths in that stuff. Both for stylistic choices.....it probably just wasn't fashionable back then....but also, it wouldn't work in many cases. A droning pad would sound wrong in much of the 80's pop once the song deviated from those 4 chords.
Elton John, George Michael, Michael Jackson......that's all pop music. Their songs are chord-progression rocket science compared to what I hear now.....which again, this can't be stressed enough, may well be quite limited. I'm open to suggestions for a higher quality modern playlist to try, because it sure would be nice to hear some new stuff that made me want to pick up an instrument and work it out. Maybe you can give me some songs/artists to try out.
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What is one contemporary song I should listen to to see if I like it?
I gave up listening decades ago to anything "current".
don't ask this grumpy old man, I gave up decades ago
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That's quite possible.
But re: pop music from 40 years ago, objectively, those songs frequently made use of more than the hum-drum 1, 5, 6, 4 that is so prevalent now. In fact, that's why synths work so well in songs today (in the way they're being used as droning pads for multiple layered tracks)....because a simple open 1-5 drone works over all four of those chords. You can't get away with that in a lot of 80's pop, and unsurprisingly, there wasn't a lot of droning synths in that stuff. Both for stylistic choices.....it probably just wasn't fashionable back then....but also, it wouldn't work in many cases. A droning pad would sound wrong in much of the 80's pop once the song deviated from those 4 chords.
Elton John, George Michael, Michael Jackson......that's all pop music. Their songs are chord-progression rocket science compared to what I hear now.....which again, this can't be stressed enough, may well be quite limited. I'm open to suggestions for a higher quality modern playlist to try, because it sure would be nice to hear some new stuff that made me want to pick up an instrument and work it out. Maybe you can give me some songs/artists to try out.
I've posted a lengthy thread with lots of modern music, playlists that I compile every year for the TX-OU game. That's probably a decent place to start.
In general though, and no offense intended, it sounds like your mind's pretty much made up. If, in all of the music of the last decade you've listened to for whatever reason, you haven't found ANYthing you like or are impressed with, then there's little chance anything I suggest is gonna penetrate that wall.
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The movie theater might be a good example of something that HAS gotten better over time... Better picture, better sound, comfy reclining chairs and a little button to summon the wait staff to bring me another beer.
We don't go often, but when there's something we want to see, it's a better experience than it was.
Probably true, expect for the movie itself --- which mostly are garbage now.
Better experience, but nothing worth seeing.
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Watched a thought provoking vid on this very subject a few weeks back. Here's a simple synopsis of why we think things suck more now than they used to. I feel like this is 100% true.
Shared culture is disappearing due to hyper-personalized digital media, globalization, and changing social structures, leading to fragmented experiences where common touchstones like shared TV shows or music fade, replaced by niche online communities and individual feeds, causing a loss of collective identity, tradition, and social cohesion, with language and physical cultural practices also at risk.
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You can pros and cons to anything.
The great thing about music is you can listen to anything you like. So many great choices.
Modern tech- social media? Here is what I love. Even though one daughter lives in Denver, the other in Michigan, I can an do text and FaceTime with them all the time.
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Probably true, expect for the movie itself --- which mostly are garbage now.
Better experience, but nothing worth seeing.
I can't really agree with that.
The 20+ movies over the first ten years of the Avengers films are some of the best serial cinema in movie history. I get it that some don't like superheo movies, but there's no doubt that the filmmaking, direction, acting, and storylines, were excellent across almost all of them.
Then there are directors like Wes Anderson that make movies that are rich in storytelling and cinematography, or Yorgos Lanthimos that tell deep and complex stories.
I do wonder if we're past the golden age of comedic cinema. For me that was the mid 70s through the 80s, and maybe a little into the 90s. Comedies these days tend toward the darker or more cynical, and just don't seem to be as much fun as they used to be. But it's also possible that it's just a "me" thing wishing for the good old days.
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I've posted a lengthy thread with lots of modern music, playlists that I compile every year for the TX-OU game. That's probably a decent place to start.
In general though, and no offense intended, it sounds like your mind's pretty much made up. If, in all of the music of the last decade you've listened to for whatever reason, you haven't found ANYthing you like or are impressed with, then there's little chance anything I suggest is gonna penetrate that wall.
I'll look for the thread when I have some time.
It's not the case that I haven't found anything recent I like. My assertion about repetitive chord progressions making the music "dumber" should not be conflated with "I don't like it." Those are two different things, though it is nice to hear some unique and inspired progressions. But that doesn't mean "basic" stuff can't be good. There's a reason those chords are used so much.....they work, and many great songs are built on them.
But I have come across modern stuff that sounds good. It's less common than previous eras, because obviously I jive with those eras more, but it's there.
One thing that has kept me away from the modern era is I'm still mining the "old days" for stuff I never heard previously. In the limited time I have to search out new music, I'm still coming across old stuff that hits my sweet spot which I missed back then, and that undoubtedly cuts into the modern stuff I may like but am not searching for.
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My issue is- I grew up with music that had instruments in it. You know, acoustic guitar, bass, drums, piano, etc. so much new music nowadays has none of that.
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I'll look for the thread when I have some time.
It's not the case that I haven't found anything recent I like. My assertion about repetitive chord progressions making the music "dumber" should not be conflated with "I don't like it." Those are two different things, though it is nice to hear some unique and inspired progressions. But that doesn't mean "basic" stuff can't be good. There's a reason those chords are used so much.....they work, and many great songs are built on them.
But I have come across modern stuff that sounds good. It's less common than previous eras, because obviously I jive with those eras more, but it's there.
One thing that has kept me away from the modern era is I'm still mining the "old days" for stuff I never heard previously. In the limited time I have to search out new music, I'm still coming across old stuff that hits my sweet spot which I missed back then, and that undoubtedly cuts into the modern stuff I may like but am not searching for.
Yeah that's why I said "like or are impressed with."
I can't say I know exactly what you're searching for, but I can say that there is more new music being made today across ALL genres and styles, and it is more accessible, than ever before.
What it is NOT-- is as easy to search for and discover. To @jgvol (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1567) 's point, music specifically, and pop culture in general, is more fractured than it was 30-40-50 years ago. So although there is more of it in pretty much every style you can imagine, it's not as easy to just trip across as it was back when we had relatively few sources steering our musical tastes.
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One nice thing about the old LP albums is I found so many more good/great/enjoyable tunes than the immediate "hits" they produced. Many of these got traction later on the air waves and have staying power even today - the "B" sides if you will
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My issue is- I grew up with music that had instruments in it. You know, acoustic guitar, bass, drums, piano, etc. so much new music nowadays has none of that.
Yep.
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I usually prefer a guitar somewhere in the mix.
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You've admitted that the modern music you're talking about is the Spotify top whatever, in other words pop music, and I'd argue that it's no less sophisticated than the pop music from 40 years ago. Tiffany, Debbie Gibson, or Samantha Fox. These artists weren't paragons of talent and sophistication then, or now.
On the other hand, there's plenty of sophisictated music coming from talented musicisons, that you're just not listening to.
Balderdash. Nobody today is blending Metal and Pop like Samanta Fox.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1btg3mpEOc
And she was a Penthouse pet? Who da Hell holds a candle to that in this day in age?
(https://wonderclub.com/images/PENTCOLL/PENTCOLLV01N02.jpg)
She was like a "real life" Kelly Bundy.
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Balderdash. Nobody today is blending Metal and Pop like Samanta Fox.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1btg3mpEOc
And she was a Penthouse pet? Who da Hell holds a candle to that in this day in age?
(https://wonderclub.com/images/PENTCOLL/PENTCOLLV01N02.jpg)
She was like a "real life" Kelly Bundy.
Don't get me wrong, I was a fan then and I still am.
But that song is absolutely the proof in the pudding of MDT's complaint about non-complex, unsophisticated music with chord progressions that wouldn't ever be labeled as "adventurous.: And it's from almost exactly 40 years ago...
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My issue is- I grew up with music that had instruments in it. You know, acoustic guitar, bass, drums, piano, etc. so much new music nowadays has none of that.
Yep.
I usually prefer a guitar somewhere in the mix.
There's a ton of new music with guitar and real instruments. Y'all should venture away from the moldie oldies stations.
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I do wonder if we're past the golden age of comedic cinema. For me that was the mid 70s through the 80s, and maybe a little into the 90s. Comedies these days tend toward the darker or more cynical, and just don't seem to be as much fun as they used to be. But it's also possible that it's just a "me" thing wishing for the good old days.
And again we're in a demographic thing...
Comedy is very culture-specific. So comedy that plays well in the US might fall flat in Europe and would be totally incomprehensible in Asia...
This is why action and/or superhero movies are so common... You completely transcend culture. So they become global properties... Whereas comedies are limited by culture.
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There's a ton of new music with guitar and real instruments. Y'all should venture away from the moldie oldies stations.
(https://thelistenersclub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/01/don-quixote-charging-windmills-2-1080x665.png)
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Don't get me wrong, I was a fan then and I still am.
But that song is absolutely the proof in the pudding of MDT's complaint about non-complex, unsophisticated music with chord progressions that wouldn't ever be labeled as "adventurous.: And it's from almost exactly 40 years ago...
Did you not make it to the blazing guitar solo?
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There's a ton of new music with guitar and real instruments. Y'all should venture away from the moldie oldies stations.
something released around September 29, 2017 new enuff?
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something released around September 29, 2017 new enuff?
When you were kickin' ass in 1980, was something released in September, 1971 considered new?
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ahhh, sure, not even a decade old
I was still discovering stuff from 71
how about released on January 24, 2025?
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No matter what, I think we can all agree that Pitbull sucks.
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no matter what :96:
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No matter what, I think we can all agree that Pitbull sucks.
I've actually had the grand displeasure of seeing Pitbull live. It was exactly as awful as you'd imagine.
It was a free concert at Formula1 in Austin, so at least I didn't actually pay for it.
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I've actually had the grand displeasure of seeing Pitbull live. It was exactly as awful as you'd imagine.
It was a free concert at Formula1 in Austin, so at least I didn't actually pay for it.
Sounds like you still got ripped off...
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I am surrounded by
There's a ton of new music with guitar and real instruments. Y'all should venture away from the moldie oldies stations.
I am surrounded by non moldy old music. All the fam and kids come over and play all kinds of stuff.
I don’t mind it. I even hear something I like occasionally. But rarely are the musical instruments in what they are listening to.
I suppose I could go searching for it. Never needed to in the past/ it was more mainstream.
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Metal evolved quite a bit each decade from the 70s to the Ots, but now each newly formed metal band simply picks their favorite style from one of those decades and emulates that sound to the best of their abilities. A lot of those old bands are still around, and they all still sound the same. They trade musicians like baseball teams trade players, but they don't bring their old style into their new band. They just learn their new bands style, while their replacement in their previous band learns that bands style. They all have like 20 albums now. If you're lucky, they still have the same vocalist.
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What it is NOT-- is as easy to search for and discover. To @jgvol (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1567) 's point, music specifically, and pop culture in general, is more fractured than it was 30-40-50 years ago. So although there is more of it in pretty much every style you can imagine, it's not as easy to just trip across as it was back when we had relatively few sources steering our musical tastes.
That's a key thing.....I haven't ferreted out good sources of modern music. Any new music I hear is usually encountered passively....it happens to me....I stumble across it. Eventually I need to put effort into finding reliable sources or recommendations I know I trust.
My youngest stepson has been somewhat of a source of new music, but, he also tends to eschew a lot of it in favor of classic rock and folk rock. So....I don't get as much from him as would be the case if he were hip-deep in music of this generation.
I will say.....I have found a number of new offerings from old bands/artists that I loved in bygone eras which are good. But, I feel like they don't count in this discussion since they themselves are old, even if the music is new.
Anyway, to pull this back on topic.......I don't currently have a trusty source of new music to try, and that makes me grumpy. There, back OT.
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I am surrounded by I am surrounded by non moldy old music. All the fam and kids come over and play all kinds of stuff.
I don’t mind it. I even hear something I like occasionally. But rarely are the musical instruments in what they are listening to.
I suppose I could go searching for it. Never needed to in the past/ it was more mainstream.
Sure, absolutely. "Mainstream" doesn't really exist anymore. The music industry, and indeed pretty much all entertainment industries, are far more fractured than they used to be. You don't find the best television on the OTA network channels, you have to go searching through the paid streaming services, and similarly you're not finding all the best music on the pop radio stations.
But I'll say, if all you're hearing from your family and kids is music that "doesn't have instruments" then you're only getting an extremely narrow sample of what's available right now. Like MDT, your "passive listening" of modern music is not really representative.
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Spectrum on XM is about the only way I hear any new music these days.
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Sure, absolutely. "Mainstream" doesn't really exist anymore. The music industry, and indeed pretty much all entertainment industries, are far more fractured than they used to be. You don't find the best television on the OTA network channels, you have to go searching through the paid streaming services, and similarly you're not finding all the best music on the pop radio stations.
But I'll say, if all you're hearing from your family and kids is music that "doesn't have instruments" then you're only getting an extremely narrow sample of what's available right now. Like MDT, your "passive listening" of modern music is not really representative.
sorry, don't have the time or $$$ for that
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sorry, don't have the time or $$$ for that
Well, that's just because all your $$$ goes into filling your 'Vette tank with gas and your tank with wings and Bud Fat.
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sorry, don't have the time or $$$ for that
The money is easy to come by when you don't pay $100 or whatever for cable/satellite.
We do Netflix, Hulu, and Prime for way less than the cost of cable, and that gets us a ton of enjoyable content.
Occasionally we cut on Apple TV if there's a new season of Severance out, and check out anything else on that service that we might like.
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payin around $150/month just seems crazy for TV entertainment but then, that's not my thing
to each their own
I'd rather enjoy a bud fat and some wings with friends and drive there in my red sports cars than sit in front of the boob tube
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Apple TV, Netflix, Hulu, and Prime for how much?
if you're getting football on Hulu it's expensive
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payin around $150/month just seems crazy for TV entertainment but then, that's not my thing
to each their own
I'd rather enjoy a bud fat and some wings with friends and drive there in my red sports cars than sit in front of the boob tube
Totally fine. As long as you're not one of the people saying "there's no good TV being made anymore" then it's all good.
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it's all good
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Apple TV, Netflix, Hulu, and Prime for how much?
if you're getting football on Hulu it's expensive
Netflix a few pennies under $20, Hulu with no commercials is a few pennies over $20, so let's call them $20 a piece. Something like $12.50 for Prime, but it's charged annually, though I think that's about what it comes out to. I pay an extra $2.50 for no commercials there too, so let's call it $15.
So $55/month for those three, which has a lot more stuff than cable has.
We get YTTV or Hulu TV when football is on, so that's an addition. But really, if you can get local channels OTA, you can get Sling Orange for around $40 or something and get your ESPNs.
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I'd like to know the legal source for ESPN, SEC and BTN, FS1 - you know, SEC and B1G football that's less than $82.99 = that's Youtube TV
the occasional Prime and/or Peacock I can manage - not having BTN is a deal killer
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I'm currently paying $80.99 (ha ha!) for those channels on Sling. But I'm about to drop the ESPN part (I think).
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hmmm, I an used to youtube and like how it works. I'm obviously all about saving $$$, but not sure if it's worth $2/month to switch
$5/month, yup
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Something like $12.50 for Prime, but it's charged annually, though I think that's about what it comes out to.
I've said it before, but unless you literally don't buy anything else from Amazon, you really can't state that it's $12.50 (or whatever) per month for Prime Video.
I'm an Amazon Prime subscriber because of how many things I order and they're on my doorstep either between 4-8 AM the next day or slightly later the next day. I was a Prime subscriber for years before I think I even installed the app.
I view Amazon Prime Video as a nice add-on to my Prime subscription, not the driving force. So maybe now that I DO use it, I could say that $2-3 per month of Prime is being "spent" on Prime Video... But I also know that if they stopped doing Prime Video, I wouldn't stop being a Prime member...
It would be like if Costco suddenly unveiled a streaming service. Would that mean I'm spending $130/year on "Costco Video"? No... It means that of the $130/year I spend on Costco, I just got an extra video service on top of what I was already enjoying.
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It would be like if Costco suddenly unveiled a streaming service. Would that mean I'm spending $130/year on "Costco Video"? No... It means that of the $130/year I spend on Costco, I just got an extra video service on top of what I was already enjoying.
OMG. That would be sooooo awesome. C'mon Kirkland--get to it!
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OMG. That would be sooooo awesome. C'mon Kirkland--get to it!
But you have to watch in bulk.
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But you have to watch in bulk.
There's only two of us here.
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I can leave the TV on in the background, muted.
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my tv hasn't been on since the game ended last night
I buy less than a dozen things per year on Amazon - usually right before Christmas
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I've said it before, but unless you literally don't buy anything else from Amazon, you really can't state that it's $12.50 (or whatever) per month for Prime Video.
I completely agree, and I personally don't view the $12.50/mo. as a TV expense.
But I was answering FF, and I assume his elderly ass doesn't have an Amazon subscription because he probably likes to mosey on down to the feed store to buy his junk in person, dammit.
His latest comment may have corroborated my assumption.
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Since coming back to work after the Christmas/New Year's break......I've actually had to work at work, a lot.
They don't seem to know I got threads here to keep up with.
Grumpy.
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see the union steward :96:
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see the union steward :96:
The WHO?
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I think he works for the government
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Since coming back to work after the Christmas/New Year's break......I've actually had to work at work, a lot.
They don't seem to know I got threads here to keep up with.
https://youtu.be/l8ukak8P2vY
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Our Amazon account was apparently hacked, as we learned that someone had purchased a watch for $788 and had it delivered to the Houston area. Resetting the password and disputing the charge with the credit card company was pretty quick and painless, but just idea of the whole thing and having to deal with it after we're getting home from work, and tired, and trying to enjoy some supper, made me grumpy. They canceled the card and will ship a new one within five business days, so, no Amazon purchases til then.
1) I'm really familiar with my wife's internet activity, and mine even more so, obviously, and I can't think of how the password got compromised, other than a data breach with Amazon itself. It doesn't surprise me when small/local businesses suffer data breaches, but I kinda expect better from Amazon. Of all companies, they should have the best and the brightest in security, I'd think. Yet, my stepson's Amazon account was compromised in a data breach just last year. Makes me wonder how common this is for them. Or if it's not that, where did one of us fall victim to a phishing scheme? Mysteries like that bug me, because if I don't know what went wrong, I can't take better precautions in the future.
2) The delivery address on the fraudulent purchase is right there. I've never known a credit card company to investigate fraud or turn info over to law enforcement, but then, I don't know much about how they operate. Maybe they do. They didn't ask any info about the fraudulent purchase, however. It does make me want to send an anonymous letter to that address near Houston saying I know what you did and where you live. Be looking over your shoulder.
3) It wasn't even a cool watch. For nearly $800, I expect something swanky, something that looks like the product of handmade craftsmanship in Germany, or somewhere like that. I didn't read the features on the purchase order, but the photo just looks like some kind of digital something that can track your steps and whatever. Big deal. Seven hundred and eighty-eight dollars???
4) Time to learn how to set up passkeys. I'm tired of this. Another credit card was compromised twice last year, once was my wife's fault for something that she should have known better, and once was my fault for falling for something that I normally would never, but it happened at the exact time that a very unusual set of circumstances was going on that made the whole thing seem believable, and I fell for the phishing because of it. I know passkeys won't stop cc compromises due to direct phishing for card info, but it should put an end to the hacking of websites with cc info stored on them.
/Grumpy
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makes me grumpy just hearing this from you
public hangings for the convicted
and worse for those that prey on the elderly & disabled
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1) I'm really familiar with my wife's internet activity, and mine even more so, obviously, and I can't think of how the password got compromised, other than a data breach with Amazon itself. It doesn't surprise me when small/local businesses suffer data breaches, but I kinda expect better from Amazon. Of all companies, they should have the best and the brightest in security, I'd think. Yet, my stepson's Amazon account was compromised in a data breach just last year. Makes me wonder how common this is for them. Or if it's not that, where did one of us fall victim to a phishing scheme? Mysteries like that bug me, because if I don't know what went wrong, I can't take better precautions in the future.
Does the Amazon password get used on ANY other web sites? If so, it might be more likely that another site was hacked and they tried your (or your wife's) password and login credentials from that other site on Amazon.
If you reuse passwords amongst multiple sites, you're only as protected as the least secure amongst them. For example, I trust that @Drew4UTk (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1) knows his stuff regarding security, but I wouldn't share my email and banking and Amazon passwords with my cfb51.com account password.
This is why I use LastPass to manage my passwords. I have unique and complex passwords for every site I visit, including this one. I have two passwords (my email and my bank) that are NOT stored in LastPass, only in my own head, in case somehow LastPass got hacked. Because my email specifically would be the canary in the coal mine that would alert me to someone trying to change passwords at other sites, and so email is the one thing I can't allow to be compromised.
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Does the Amazon password get used on ANY other web sites? If so, it might be more likely that another site was hacked and they tried your (or your wife's) password and login credentials from that other site on Amazon.
If you reuse passwords amongst multiple sites, you're only as protected as the least secure amongst them. For example, I trust that @Drew4UTk (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1) knows his stuff regarding security, but I wouldn't share my email and banking and Amazon passwords with my cfb51.com account password.
This is why I use LastPass to manage my passwords. I have unique and complex passwords for every site I visit, including this one. I have two passwords (my email and my bank) that are NOT stored in LastPass, only in my own head, in case somehow LastPass got hacked. Because my email specifically would be the canary in the coal mine that would alert me to someone trying to change passwords at other sites, and so email is the one thing I can't allow to be compromised.
I'd have to check the pw list in my safe, because I'm bad at remembering most passwords these days, but iirc, the old password was unique, yet similar to other passwords.
Agree about bank account password, I don't store it anywhere except on the printed list in my safe, and for all I know even that's not a good idea, but I figure if someone gets in my safe, I have bigger problems than stolen passwords. It's the same reason I don't use or store the bank account's debit cards. Those just sit in the safe as well until I need to go to the ATM (rare). Banks don't tend to offer near the easy purchase-dispute protection and refunds for fraudulent activity that cc companies do. Ours definitely doesn't. It's the one password I do remember because I frequently use it, but I keep it on the hard list because my wife doesn't remember it and never will, and I want her to have easy access to all the passwords if something happened to me.
I've thought about something like LastPass, but never did it. I think at this time I'll probably just begin moving to the passkey technology. I am resistant to new things I don't understand, because confusion feels worse than vulnerability (when no one I trust has made a personal recommendation--and I don't know anyone who currently uses passkeys), but several weeks ago I read as much as I could find on them, and though I never did get completely clear on the complicated math at the bottom of it, the general concept is pretty easy to pick up on. As I say, I still hesitated because when I don't yet understand the brute mathematical process at the core, it's hard to adopt a technology that I don't fully understand. But at this point I think I'd be happier trusting that it is what the easy, surface explanation says it is, and moving ahead with it.
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Just changed my Amazon password as it was shared with a couple of other sites.
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A buddy who worked in the Secret Service (which, pre DHS, investigated financial crimes) in lifetimes past was frustrated that they would investigate 6-figure financial thefts, and the financial services companies (banks, etc.) that they were trying to protect treated them, the Secret Service, as a nuisance. The dollar amounts were too small for victimized financial services companies to care.
I keep wondering why the rampant fraud and phishing is so difficult to police. Someone smarter than me could probably explain it. Please feel free...
Honestly, without veering into politics (I think) if the government could prioritize that, I suspect people would care a lot more than about [name your hot-button social issue].
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I assume it's up to the financial institutions to rattle the cages on the government's actions. They're the ones enduring the loss, having to refund people like me after fraud.
What I fail to understand is why those companies don't make more noise. I read from multiple sources that they endure billions in costs per year due to fraud. They might be huge, but even those kinds of companies have to feel it when we're talking billions.
At any rate, soon I look for major companies--certainly the Big Tech ones--to stop with passwords and force us to use passkeys. I could be wrong, but I predict that's the way things will move.
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Does the Amazon password get used on ANY other web sites? If so, it might be more likely that another site was hacked and they tried your (or your wife's) password and login credentials from that other site on Amazon.
If you reuse passwords amongst multiple sites, you're only as protected as the least secure amongst them. For example, I trust that @Drew4UTk (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1) knows his stuff regarding security, but I wouldn't share my email and banking and Amazon passwords with my cfb51.com account password.
This is why I use LastPass to manage my passwords. I have unique and complex passwords for every site I visit, including this one. I have two passwords (my email and my bank) that are NOT stored in LastPass, only in my own head, in case somehow LastPass got hacked. Because my email specifically would be the canary in the coal mine that would alert me to someone trying to change passwords at other sites, and so email is the one thing I can't allow to be compromised.
this site is pretty tight - our information goes nowhere that mother google can't see anyway, no matter what you do. i track users insofar as geolocation, but that only to study WHERE they're from and how to go about blocking them. its a very good thing there are few, if any, outside of CONUS who have interest in CFB... it's kinda a dead giveaway when approached from some of these nations.
i use the multi-tiered approach, too, which is to say if it's not a very important thing I use one flavor of passkey... if it's a level up another... if they hold any kind of financial data they get the next tier... if it's a primary financial institution they get their very own. all that said, that's usually not what get's folks access.. it's when they bust the door down and drain entire DB's of personal data - and then sell it.... those are usually skimmed for the low hanging fruit- which to them are organizations with weak systems in place such as local banks. the harder targets are harder to get into (duh) and the hacker stands a good chance of being caught.
i opened a business account at the bank closest to me... and online access... i literally rode the golf cart there and back to home/shop.... i received a text from them i assumed was some sort of welcome text- but it wasn't.... the account had already been breached. i turned around and went right back up there and closed the account. it's never happened (knock on wood) with a major institution, at least with me.
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I couldn't access this site when I was in New Zealand. Not that I needed to, but I did try a few times. Just wouldn't work. Don't know what that was, but I suspect it had something to do with where I was.
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I couldn't access this site when I was in New Zealand. Not that I needed to, but I did try a few times. Just wouldn't work. Don't know what that was, but I suspect it had something to do with where I was.
i maintain a white and black list, for both country's and IP ranges.
nothing connected to the interweb or a network for that matter is truly secure. i get tickled with network security managers- and to anger them will say "oh you absolutely COULD secure that computer- but then YOU wouldn't have access, and that is what makes your job difficult"..... and there is a good bit of truth in that... i watched my old company struggle to keep that balance- "we want it SO secure nobody no matter who can't get in..... except for us.... we need to know what you're up to at any given minute."....
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Knock it off Mr Orwell
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I couldn't access this site when I was in New Zealand. Not that I needed to, but I did try a few times. Just wouldn't work. Don't know what that was, but I suspect it had something to do with where I was.
Yes, I was blocked in Mexico until @Drew4UTk (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1) let me out of jail.
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The above post is something my brothers and I have already been discussing for a while – whether the latter half of the 20th Century will be looked back on as a highpoint of human artistry, right up there with the art of the Italian Renaissance 1400s/1500s. And there are numerous editorials wondering the same (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv3pbxTkhKQ), and pegging the year 2007 as the last year of American entertainment’s globally dominant peak era.
By no coincidence, 2007 is the year Cell Phones became Smart Phones, the internet moved into its Social Media era, Netflix began streaming, and Reality TV went into overdrive as a response to keeping television production going during intensive labor strikes by screenwriters. Although it’s worth pointing out that Peak TV Era extended for another decade, with shows like Mad Men, Breaking Bad, and Walking Dead carrying an intellectual torch to the small screen.
This has left Hollywood, the music industry, and book publishing in the position of competing against themselves. Friends and Seinfeld reruns command more devoted audiences than currently produced sitcoms, and are even watched just as much by the younger demographic that all the advertisers chase. That, to me, is one small sign that there was more lasting creative power in the less corporate Hollywood of the 1990s than there is today.
Despite Sturgeon’s Law, I think the case can be made that entertainment was smarter, and more creative and memorable during its latter-century golden age of American entertainment.
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We have no heat. Boiler down again.
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turn on the oven, crack the oven door and camp out in the kitchen with a hot cup of coffee
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I’m using my wife’s fake fireplace. We went out to breakfast.
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Work was canceled yesterday. Re-opened today, and got here to find Facilities (or somebody) had taken the batteries out of all the thermostats in this old building, leaving us with no heat. My office was freezing. Fortunately I keep a small space heater in here, and it's a small office, so with the door closed I'm able to warm it up decently. However, I'm still wearing my big coat and my fingers are freezing.
We put in a work order and Facilities finally got here and turned our heat back on, and it's getting a bit more work-friendly in here.
However, there never is any heat in the abandoned side of the building where the bathrooms are, and going to the bathroom down there is not a pleasant experience this morning.
They pull any more of this stuff and I'm going to take them at their word that this old building will be demo'd once the library renovations are complete, and start pulling apart the walls and studs and burning them for heat.
Course.....there's asbestos in this building, so that's probably not a good idea either....
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I’m using my wife’s fake fireplace. We went out to breakfast.
put extra hot sauce on your eggs!
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Work was canceled yesterday. Re-opened today, and got here to find Facilities (or somebody) had taken the batteries out of all the thermostats in this old building, leaving us with no heat. My office was freezing. Fortunately I keep a small space heater in here, and it's a small office, so with the door closed I'm able to warm it up decently. However, I'm still wearing my big coat and my fingers are freezing.
We put in a work order and Facilities finally got here and turned our heat back on, and it's getting a bit more work-friendly in here.
However, there never is any heat in the abandoned side of the building where the bathrooms are, and going to the bathroom down there is not a pleasant experience this morning.
They pull any more of this stuff and I'm going to take them at their word that this old building will be demo'd once the library renovations are complete, and start pulling apart the walls and studs and burning them for heat.
Course.....there's asbestos in this building, so that's probably not a good idea either....
Sounds like I'd be working from home.
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The roads are pretty clear here this morning, but my employer went ahead and sent out a note yesterday asking everyone to work from home again today, because they can't guarantee all of the parking lots are safely cleared.
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The roads are pretty clear here this morning, but my employer went ahead and sent out a note yesterday asking everyone to work from home again today, because they can't guarantee all of the parking lots are safely cleared.
That'd go in the Happy thread for me. Which, my boss said we could go work from home if the heat didn't get turned back on soon (he's in the nice new building the rest of us used to be in) and not to sit around here in the cold. But I decided to wait a bit since it's not a repair job and just putting batteries back in the thermostats, and I already took the trouble to drive in.
Probably shoulda just left when he gave me the chance, but they did get the heat going about 9 a.m. What I'm still trying to wrap my mind around was them taking the batteries out in the first place. I guess they didn't want people leaving the heat way up over the weekend or something? But damn.
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It is windy with no sun here in Belize. Really grumpy. Actually what is making me grumpy is I can't get my pic of my feet in the sand with the ocean in the background to upload
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Yeah--I tried hard to upload some New Zaland pics here and just couldn't do it. Oh well. Trust me: it is beautiful.
I'm grumpy about the sciatic nerve situation I seem to have right now. It bites.
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Yeah--I tried hard to upload some New Zaland pics here and just couldn't do it. Oh well. Trust me: it is beautiful.
I'm grumpy about the sciatic nerve situation I seem to have right now. It bites.
Get an MRI of the lumbar area.
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Go see the barkeep in the tavern area
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Ugh. Might need a new car.
Water pump started leaking. Ford, in their infinite wisdom, designed an internal water pump... INSIDE THE ENGINE. Which would need to have the engine removed to access. Huge expense... And that's assuming that coolant didn't get into the oil. Which would mean new motor. And it is going to need at least half a catalytic converter before next time it gets smogged.
All told I'd be looking at cost to repair, assuming NO motor needed, probably very near the value of the vehicle.
Apparently the only Hail Mary is to file a claim with Ford because they've been sued over this water pump issue. Mechanic has said he's seen people have success with Ford on this.
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Well that sucks. I'd definitely try to file a claim againt Ford.
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Ugh. Might need a new car.
Water pump started leaking. Ford, in their infinite wisdom, designed an internal water pump... INSIDE THE ENGINE. Which would need to have the engine removed to access. Huge expense... And that's assuming that coolant didn't get into the oil. Which would mean new motor. And it is going to need at least half a catalytic converter before next time it gets smogged.
All told I'd be looking at cost to repair, assuming NO motor needed, probably very near the value of the vehicle.
Apparently the only Hail Mary is to file a claim with Ford because they've been sued over this water pump issue. Mechanic has said he's seen people have success with Ford on this.
That really does suck, man.
When Fords pass me on the Interstate, I often wonder if I'll pass them back as they limp to the side of the road in a few miles.
That said, I bought a GMC Sierra AT4 with the 6.2 L. My brother in-law's (2 years newer) shot craps due to their brilliant planet-saving cylinder shut-down and resulting horrible problems. I am probably driving a ticking time bomb myself.
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Ford, in their infinite wisdom, designed an internal water pump... INSIDE THE ENGINE.
better idea
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After 20 days on the sea going home in a couple of days. Sucks
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It always sucks when a cruise comes to an end. Where all did you go? I know about the Canal.
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We did an 18 day a while back thinking maybe we'd get tired of it, but at the end we were ready to keep going. So, later we did the 29 day. I can say for both of us we were pretty much ready to be home then. That was an interesting adventure, and we got into a definite routine in our cabin. The excursions at times are exhausting for 147 year olds.
The 29 day cruise was a back to back, which is a neat concept I think. It was a 14 day then a 15 day.
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We're doing an 18 coming up late this year.
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If I found an interesting 20+ day double I'd sign up again. Looking at Argentina and Iceland/Greenland/Norway.
My wife and I are still chatting a bit about the river cruise in Europe.
If the stock market keeps going up I might just sign up.
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It always sucks when a cruise comes to an end. Where all did you go? I know about the Canal.
St Thomas san juan and Bahamas first cruise. Grand Cayman. Catagenia. Panama canal. Costa rico, Belize. Cozumel 2nd cruise
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So, you went through the canal and then back?
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If I found an interesting 20+ day double I'd sign up again. Looking at Argentina and Iceland/Greenland/Norway.
My wife and I are still chatting a bit about the river cruise in Europe.
If the stock market keeps going up I might just sign up.
We have also been talking about a rhine-danube river boat cruise. Wife has also mentioned iceland. This one was a combination of friends asking us to join them and 2nd one for the canal. Sitting right now in cozumel but not even getting off the ship. Seen enough of Mexico.
We are renting a place on the beach in Maine for 2 months so cruising will slow down. We plan to drive cross country to visit family and friends along the way and then travel north part of the country back and visit a bunch of national parks
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So, you went through the canal and then back?
Ship went through the first set of locks and then we got off and took a smaller boat through the rest of the locks to the pacific and caught a bus to colon where the ship docked after going back through the Atlantic locks
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Got it. That could have been an expensive two-way otherwise.
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We are renting a place on the beach in Maine for 2 months so cruising will slow down. We plan to drive cross country to visit family and friends along the way and then travel north part of the country back and visit a bunch of national parks
Sounds amazing.
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We are renting a place on the beach in Maine for 2 months so cruising will slow down. We plan to drive cross country to visit family and friends along the way and then travel north part of the country back and visit a bunch of national parks
Can you adopt me and then I'll come along this vacation with you? I love Maine in the summer.
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Having a Grumpy Old Man moment:
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Don't know much about either of them, but from what little I've seen of them, they've styled themselves the same way often enough for it to be understandable to mistake one for the other.
Clothes/hair/fashion-wise, I mean. I couldn't tell you anything about their music and if they sound alike.
I still can't reliably tell Jessica Chastain from Bryce Dallas Howard. utee posted a funny video about that a while back.
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music bingo at the brewery I just visited in North Platte, NE
the categories were country girls and sing-a-longs
guess I'm getting old
the MC was annoying (IMO)
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Grumpy that beef steak is $20/lb - choice!
pork loin is the obvious bargain
brats & ground beef over $4.50/lb
and this is a sale price for 3 days!
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This is more of a perpetual annoyance thing than a grumpy old man thing, but....
I can't stand the sound of my voice, the accent in particular. It sounds fine to me via the bone conduction we hear ourselves with, but gratingly irritating via the usual compression waves through which we perceive sound. (If you've ever wondered why you sound different to yourself compared to when you hear yourself played back on a recording, while everybody else says it sounds just like you, that's why.)
I have some kind of disastrous, unholy mesh of hillbilly, hick, southern, he-must-be-partially-deaf-and-probably-learning-disabled accent that just makes me sad. I'd forgive anyone meeting me for the first time for assuming I'm mentally retarded. I manage to forget about it, mostly, and it's never really hurt my self-confidence, but when I'm forced to hear myself, I have a lot of sympathy for friends, family, and coworkers who are afflicted constantly with the sound of my voice.
I'm doing some software tutorial videos for faculty and staff use, and it requires me to listen to myself while checking and editing them. It's hard to believe we don't have standards that prohibit this kind of thing. What kind of workplace that takes itself seriously disseminates videos that make people say "Oh god, here goes that gator-humping, inbred sympathy hire again?"
I just wanna get done with these and then go another several years without having to hear me again.
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This is more of a perpetual annoyance thing than a grumpy old man thing, but....
I can't stand the sound of my voice, the accent in particular. It sounds fine to me via the bone conduction we hear ourselves with, but gratingly irritating via the usual compression waves through which we perceive sound. (If you've ever wondered why you sound different to yourself compared to when you hear yourself played back on a recording, while everybody else says it sounds just like you, that's why.)
I have some kind of disastrous, unholy mesh of hillbilly, hick, southern, he-must-be-partially-deaf-and-probably-learning-disabled accent that just makes me sad. I'd forgive anyone meeting me for the first time for assuming I'm mentally retarded. I manage to forget about it, mostly, and it's never really hurt my self-confidence, but when I'm forced to hear myself, I have a lot of sympathy for friends, family, and coworkers who are afflicted constantly with the sound of my voice.
I'm doing some software tutorial videos for faculty and staff use, and it requires me to listen to myself while checking and editing them. It's hard to believe we don't have standards that prohibit this kind of thing. What kind of workplace that takes itself seriously disseminates videos that make people say "Oh god, here goes that gator-humping, inbred sympathy hire again?"
I just wanna get done with these and then go another several years without having to hear me again.
I am always stunned when I hear my recorded voice. I'm quite aware that I'm no Rhodes Scholar, but I sound like a Kuntry bumpkin, from BFE. I think I'm more intelligent than I sound.
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I don't sound like a country bumpkin and don't have a strong accent of any type. Occasionally there's a very light Chicago accent, but growing up out in the suburbs I never picked a strong one up. And as weak as it was 25 years ago when I left, it's softened even since then.
But I can't stand the tone. I don't know if it's real, but somehow I hear a "nasal" quality to it that I absolutely hate.
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I am always stunned when I hear my recorded voice. I'm quite aware that I'm no Rhodes Scholar, but I sound like a Kuntry bumpkin, from BFE. I think I'm more intelligent than I sound.
Well...
:)
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I don't sound like a country bumpkin and don't have a strong accent of any type. Occasionally there's a very light Chicago accent, but growing up out in the suburbs I never picked a strong one up. And as weak as it was 25 years ago when I left, it's softened even since then.
But I can't stand the tone. I don't know if it's real, but somehow I hear a "nasal" quality to it that I absolutely hate.
That's a Midwest thing, but I don't have it, thankfully.
No Chicago accent either, being from the NW side/burbs and all.
Dat's more of a Sout Side Ting.
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A bird crashed into my window today. I opened the door, and it was just lying on it's back twitching on the porch. All of a sudden another bird of the same species swooped in, grabbed it up, and flew off with it.
I didn't know that they did that.
I think they were doves. Both were fully grown.
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cannibal doves make me grumpy
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Have you ever heard something come out of someone's mouth and it just makes you astounded that someone would say/think that out loud?
A woman my wife knows--mind you that I put it that way to alert you that she was neither a friend or even a social acquaintance, because when you hear what she said, you'll know I wouldn't voluntarily associate with such a person--overheard her talking about the issues we have with the Flex. Our plan is to sell it off at this point for a song to one of those "we buy cars" places because it's basically a total loss given the cost of repair and the value of the vehicle.
She said...
Don't you know anyone who could "steal" it and then go crash it somewhere?
Uhh, no. No. Hell no. Such an idea isn't something that would ever enter my head, and if it did, I'd chide myself for even thinking it.
WTF is wrong with people?!?!
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Have you ever heard something come out of someone's mouth and it just makes you astounded that someone would say/think that out loud?
A woman my wife knows--mind you that I put it that way to alert you that she was neither a friend or even a social acquaintance, because when you hear what she said, you'll know I wouldn't voluntarily associate with such a person--overheard her talking about the issues we have with the Flex. Our plan is to sell it off at this point for a song to one of those "we buy cars" places because it's basically a total loss given the cost of repair and the value of the vehicle.
She said...
Don't you know anyone who could "steal" it and then go crash it somewhere?
Uhh, no. No. Hell no. Such an idea isn't something that would ever enter my head, and if it did, I'd chide myself for even thinking it.
WTF is wrong with people?!?!
I used to know a few people who did that stuff for a living.
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on the south side
I'm gonna guess the lady is blonde
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West side.
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I'm gonna guess the lady is blonde
Not going to get deeper into the demographic.
However I will say that she is as dumb as a box of rocks. Just disappointing that she's both dumb AND unethical.
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ya gotta be a certain amount of dumb to consider something that unethical that could very well come back to bite ya
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She said...
Don't you know anyone who could "steal" it and then go crash it somewhere?
Uhh, no. No. Hell no. Such an idea isn't something that would ever enter my head, and if it did, I'd chide myself for even thinking it.
WTF is wrong with people?!?!
My reaction would be to laugh out loud as though she is joking, then continue to laugh to embed it in my brain that she *is* joking. Then in another ten years when wide awake at 3am it hits me - she wasn't joking!
I will admit, yes, I have known people that stupid on a first name basis. However, they disappeared from my life once I completely stopped hanging out in dive bars.
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that's part of the charm of dive bars
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This is more of a perpetual annoyance thing than a grumpy old man thing, but....
I can't stand the sound of my voice, the accent in particular. It sounds fine to me via the bone conduction we hear ourselves with, but gratingly irritating via the usual compression waves through which we perceive sound. (If you've ever wondered why you sound different to yourself compared to when you hear yourself played back on a recording, while everybody else says it sounds just like you, that's why.)
I have some kind of disastrous, unholy mesh of hillbilly, hick, southern, he-must-be-partially-deaf-and-probably-learning-disabled accent that just makes me sad. I'd forgive anyone meeting me for the first time for assuming I'm mentally retarded. I manage to forget about it, mostly, and it's never really hurt my self-confidence, but when I'm forced to hear myself, I have a lot of sympathy for friends, family, and coworkers who are afflicted constantly with the sound of my voice.
I'm doing some software tutorial videos for faculty and staff use, and it requires me to listen to myself while checking and editing them. It's hard to believe we don't have standards that prohibit this kind of thing. What kind of workplace that takes itself seriously disseminates videos that make people say "Oh god, here goes that gator-humping, inbred sympathy hire again?"
I just wanna get done with these and then go another several years without having to hear me again.
Same. I bet my accent makes yours sound sophisticated.
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buncha hayseeds.
Over the phone or on conference calls, people usually guess that I'm from California. It's offensive. ;)
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I think they were doves. Both were fully grown.
You don't know what they look like? Or were you peering thru beer goggles
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buncha hayseeds.
Over the phone or on conference calls, people usually guess that I'm from California. It's offensive. ;)
Prolly shouldn't chime in with "for sure,for sure" when concluding business - that could be problematic
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Cali people say "right" after a making a statement. As in a whole lot.
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Cali people say "right" after a making a statement. As in a whole lot.
🤮
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You don't know what they look like? Or were you peering thru beer goggles
They looked like doves, but I'm not an ornithologist.
I think mama bird crashed out, and papa bird flew it back to the nest in hopes of a full recovery. Seeds and feathers everywhere.
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Did they cry?
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No idea what accent I have, but everyone always guesses somewhere far away. People in Ohio thought I was from Montana, in Vermont they thought I was from the deep south, in the South they think I'm Canadian, and out west they think I'm from Brooklyn NY.
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I haven't been to California in some years, but in my trips out there, a few people looked visibly jarred out of whatever they were thinking about and then commented "You're not from around here, are you?"
Alternatively, once while walking in Manhattan a guy told me he could tell I wasn't from the city just by the way I was walking down the street. He then asked me where I was from and then told me a lot of locals are scared poopless of Southerners. He'd never been anywhere in the South, but I guess the stereotypes did him in. He agreed he would not mug me and try to take my wallet, and I agreed I would not do terrible, violent, swamp things to him, and we had a good laugh. I liked that guy, as brief as our meeting was.
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No idea what accent I have, but everyone always guesses somewhere far away. People in Ohio thought I was from Montana, in Vermont they thought I was from the deep south, in the South they think I'm Canadian, and out west they think I'm from Brooklyn NY.
I've got a coworker that I was always trying to place his accent... It was British, to be sure, but then it wasn't... It was odd.
We were out at a customer dinner one night and he said during his childhood he lived in Britain, Ohio, Texas, and then California.
It immediately made sense. His accent was that of a Limey Newscaster Cowboy Surfer :57:
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Every year I can't remember what I did with my Saturdays and Sundays when there's no football. It's like there's a vacuum, and for some reason I can never recall how I spend my down time once football gets through.
I thought the Pro Bowl game used to be the Sunday before the SB, no? It's sometime in the evening this week, I think.
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So called service dogs.
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So called service dogs.
Lots of mofo's down here buy these things. I hate those people (and that's a lot of people).
They don't give a shit about anyone else, or people like me who are allergic to dogs.
I wouldn't want a hairy naked man who doesn't wipe his ass sitting on my couch and I certainly don't want to dine with one.
F these people.
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They looked like doves, but I'm not an ornithologist.
I think mama bird crashed out, and papa bird flew it back to the nest in hopes of a full recovery. Seeds and feathers everywhere.
I believe doves mate for life.
Kinda sweet and sad at the same time.
No-fault divorce hasn't been implemented, and 'til death do us part still means something in that little part of the animal kingdom.
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my daughter (and her roommates) wanted a cat in their college dorm - so she asked the doctor to give her a note or something
I just shook my head - :96:
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my daughter (and her roommates) wanted a cat in their college dorm - so she asked the doctor to give her a note or something
I just shook my head - :96:
I know a number of people who have gotten notes so they could have an animal in dorms, rentals, etc. Typical unintended consequence of the ADA
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emotional support
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I've got a coworker that I was always trying to place his accent... It was British, to be sure, but then it wasn't... It was odd.
We were out at a customer dinner one night and he said during his childhood he lived in Britain, Ohio, Texas, and then California.
It immediately made sense. His accent was that of a Limey Newscaster Cowboy Surfer :57:
I think that's it. As a kid I loved in Virginia, Vermont, Missouri, Utah and Ohio. All by age 10.
So Virginia and possibly Missouri would explain the "southern," Vermont the "NY/Canadian," and Utah the "Montana."
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I previously mentioned the credit card fraud on a card linked to our Amazon account. The bank stated they were doing an investigation (though they immediately refunded the fraudulent purchase) and emailed me that they had a statement about their findings available on their website. Which it wasn't, when I logged in. Weird.
In the meantime, Amazon emailed us to say they were doing an investigation, and also have locked us out of our account, with no date for when it will be accessible again. Can't get into the Amazon or Prime Video app on our phones or computers. Can't see when current orders will get here, can't make any new orders, can't watch anything. The Firestick let us log in, thankfully, not sure why, though I bet we can't rent/buy any movies from Prime (but we haven't tried).
I don't get locking us out of the account when we're not contesting any more fraud. We changed the password when it happened. And I don't get not giving us a timeframe for when we can access the account again.
I might have to remember how I bought stuff in the old days. In the meantime, I'm about to start pro-rating this time off of our annual subscription....see how they like some angry emails about that. I'm about to turn into a Derran (male Karen).
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With the dead Flex, that means that I need to put the soft top back on the Jeep to potentially deal with weather/etc, and for driving kids around. So I had to pull the thing down from the rafters in the garage, hose down several years worth of accumulated dust, reinstall the heavy top, and then remember how to put the damn windows back in.
But given that I don't know how long it will take me to select and find a replacement for the Flex, it was a necessity.
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You don't do a ton of miles, so maybe leasing is the way to go?
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You don't do a ton of miles, so maybe leasing is the way to go?
I generally am anti-lease. The way I understand leasing is:
- You "buy" a car--or the rights to a car--for 3 years.
- Your payments over the term will exceed the total purchase price of the car minus the residual. The residual is going to be slightly LOWER than the expected depreciation to remove risk from the dealer.
- If you've done anything the dealer doesn't like (go over miles, any damage they consider enough to charge you for), you're forced to shell out more money or buy it at the cost of the residual. If the latter, you're [most likely] financing it so now you're paying more than the residual over the course of the finance term.
- If you are able to just turn it back in, the dealer now sells it at a profit because the market price is above the residual. Even better if they can CPO it and charge another slight premium.
I figure I'd be smarter to buy new, and if I want something different in 3 years, then just sell it private party for likely more than the residual. I'd be eating the depreciation, but assuming the value of the car is higher than the residual (plus whatever additional I paid over the difference), it's still a better deal.
But as you point out, I think it's even smarter than either to buy used (poss. CPO), and let some other poor schlub cover the depreciation for me.
IMHO the only people who should lease are those who can make it work tax-wise. I.e. they own a small business and the business leases the vehicle, while they drive it daily. The business calls it an expense, so it's paid for out of pre-tax income. Whereas if they paid themselves the money directly and bought or leased a vehicle, they're paying for it with after-tax money--with it being essentially at whatever their marginal (highest) bracket is b/c it's foregone income vs earned income if the business does it.
That's not me.
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I've considered the 5-year very low miles leases. I probably drive 3000 miles per year, so 20,000 would probably cover me.
But I think I'd still rather go CPO.
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Yeah, ultimately with CPO you'll probably spend a lot more than you would with the lease, but you'll end up with an absurdly low-mile asset at the end of the 5 years, worth enough to sell quite handsomely...
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I previously mentioned the credit card fraud on a card linked to our Amazon account. The bank stated they were doing an investigation (though they immediately refunded the fraudulent purchase) and emailed me that they had a statement about their findings available on their website. Which it wasn't, when I logged in. Weird.
In the meantime, Amazon emailed us to say they were doing an investigation, and also have locked us out of our account, with no date for when it will be accessible again. Can't get into the Amazon or Prime Video app on our phones or computers. Can't see when current orders will get here, can't make any new orders, can't watch anything. The Firestick let us log in, thankfully, not sure why, though I bet we can't rent/buy any movies from Prime (but we haven't tried).
I don't get locking us out of the account when we're not contesting any more fraud. We changed the password when it happened. And I don't get not giving us a timeframe for when we can access the account again.
I might have to remember how I bought stuff in the old days. In the meantime, I'm about to start pro-rating this time off of our annual subscription....see how they like some angry emails about that. I'm about to turn into a Derran (male Karen).
can't ya simply close the account and open a new account?
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I generally am anti-lease. The way I understand leasing is:
- You "buy" a car--or the rights to a car--for 3 years.
- Your payments over the term will exceed the total purchase price of the car minus the residual. The residual is going to be slightly LOWER than the expected depreciation to remove risk from the dealer.
- If you've done anything the dealer doesn't like (go over miles, any damage they consider enough to charge you for), you're forced to shell out more money or buy it at the cost of the residual. If the latter, you're [most likely] financing it so now you're paying more than the residual over the course of the finance term.
- If you are able to just turn it back in, the dealer now sells it at a profit because the market price is above the residual. Even better if they can CPO it and charge another slight premium.
I figure I'd be smarter to buy new, and if I want something different in 3 years, then just sell it private party for likely more than the residual. I'd be eating the depreciation, but assuming the value of the car is higher than the residual (plus whatever additional I paid over the difference), it's still a better deal.
But as you point out, I think it's even smarter than either to buy used (poss. CPO), and let some other poor schlub cover the depreciation for me.
IMHO the only people who should lease are those who can make it work tax-wise. I.e. they own a small business and the business leases the vehicle, while they drive it daily. The business calls it an expense, so it's paid for out of pre-tax income. Whereas if they paid themselves the money directly and bought or leased a vehicle, they're paying for it with after-tax money--with it being essentially at whatever their marginal (highest) bracket is b/c it's foregone income vs earned income if the business does it.
That's not me.
I always lease. If you lease from them again they generally do not care if you are over mileage and small minor issues. Never have to pay for a repair and maintenance. Only cost is lease and gas. Easy to budget.
When the marketing went out of control during covid. I sold the csr abd lease to a third party at a profit and took out another lease.
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can't ya simply close the account and open a new account?
Closing the Amazon account would be a more nuclear option than what's warranted. We'd lose my wife's various wishlists, purchasing history (which comes in handier than you'd think, due to re-purchases of continually consumed items, for example, vitamins she makes me take....I don't have to remember the brand or particulars...Amazon remembers all that for me). My stepson and his gf also use the account, and they'd have to re-add their credit cards. And all our digital movie purchases and playlists and preferences would get blown up. And we'd probably have to re-log into every app within the Firestick, which is a bit of a hassle.
Anyway, they re-opened access to the account, which I guess should go in the Happy thread. Amazon "concluded their investigation" and determined, yes, it was fraud, and suggested we contact the credit card company.
Um....thanks, Amazon. We knew that. And presumably, it was the credit card company who contacted Amazon about fraud, because we sure didn't, so they already know about it. Safeguarding the credit card account was move #1. Silly Amazon.
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OK Youse Grumpy Old Men. Now that I'm 50, I need to probably see a Dr. and get some stuff checked out.
What all do you old bastages recommend? Physical, bloodwork, prostrate? What else? I did have a colonoscopy done about 3 or so years ago (friend of mine died from cancer he told me to get checked before he passed).
Another friend, almost my age ('75er) went and had routine bloodwork done, discovered his PSA through the roof, bad prostrate cancer. Spread to his bones. He's doing the treatment thing at MDA (long way from KS), and essentially they eliminated the PC, but it will be in his bones forever, and he has to do treatments forever.
Another really good friend from HS days had routine bloodwork done, found out his something or other levels were off the chart, found out he had tumor blockage in his liver bile duct. Best I can remember. Very early, they caught it and removed it. Doing chemo now, but seems like he should be OK. We're about a week apart in age, both Dec '75.
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see a good Doc that you trust - take all the tests that he/she recommends
don't put it off another year or two - good luck!
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Annual physical, with bloodwork. Including whatever your doctor wants.
Due to reasons, I ended up not seeing a doctor between before COVID and last year. Thankfully there was nothing bad in my labs. But having gone 5ish years without labs, I'll admit feeling pretty worried what was going to show up...
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Whenever I go to the Dr. for various ailments over the years it always amazes me how much actual paperwork they have you fill out. I would have figured by now it would all be some kind of i-pad or even an app you download to the phone. I realize that there are many older patients (hello boomer) that wouldn't know how to do that like my mom, but for the other 85% of people it's just another day in the life of 20xx.
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Annual physical, with bloodwork. Including whatever your doctor wants.
Due to reasons, I ended up not seeing a doctor between before COVID and last year. Thankfully there was nothing bad in my labs. But having gone 5ish years without labs, I'll admit feeling pretty worried what was going to show up...
We used to do labs at my corporate job (working in a chemical plant with lots of carcinogens). So about every 3 or so years they would do the entire physical checkup, take blood, etc. Now I've been working a strictly office job for about 5-6 years, I really haven't had much done.
I live next to a medium size town (30Kish), and we have a lot of Dr's in that town, but I sort of despise a few....ethnicities of Dr's. It's not that I'm entirely racist, I just have such a hard time understanding a lot of them. That being said, it's either that particular ethnicity, or a really old man that has got to be 70+ and you wonder how long he's going to be doing this. I actually saw this particular Dr. years ago for something else, so I do have some history there.
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git yerself a young female doc that you can understand ;)
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annual visit to the dr. Everything checked including prostrate. All the blood work, cholesterol, liver enzymes, sugar, etc.
See a cardiologist annually even though I don't have any issues.
See a Dermatogist annually even though I don't have any issues.
Every 5 years a colonoscopy/endoscopy without any issues so far (father had colon cancer)
I have glaucoma (because I got check out regularly it was caught very early and have lost almost no eye sight), occasional gout attack and slightly elevated cholesterol, all of which I take drops or pills.
also take a low dose aspirin, zyrtec, Multivitamin, 500iu Vitamin E and 1000mg vitamin C.
I figure getting everything checked out regularly and doing preventative things I should continue to be able to do the things I want to do. If something ever does show up, shouldn't be too far advanced. If I could convince insurance I need a full body scan annually I would do that.
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see a good Doc that you trust - take all the tests that he/she recommends
don't put it off another year or two - good luck!
This.
At the risk of sounding snarky and adversarial, find a good primary doctor and do the things they ask you to do. Much better than asking a bunch of us non-doctors our recommendations. Any good doctor is going to immediately know based on your history and current physical conditions what tests and screenings you should do.
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I have a female APRN. I like APRN vs. MD/DO for primary care.
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I live next to a medium size town (30Kish), and we have a lot of Dr's in that town, but I sort of despise a few....ethnicities of Dr's. It's not that I'm entirely racist, I just have such a hard time understanding a lot of them. That being said, it's either that particular ethnicity, or a really old man that has got to be 70+ and you wonder how long he's going to be doing this. I actually saw this particular Dr. years ago for something else, so I do have some history there.
When I worked at Mrs. DeLonghorn's clinic, we had a handful of patients who wouldn't see specialists for that very reason. Fact is, we don't have a ton of Caucasian specialists in our area. Or maybe I should say that many of the ones who are "white" are still foreign. One guy wouldn't see Pain Management because he didn't think the doctor would treat him. One lady wouldn't proceed with a needful heart procedure with a cardiologist because she thought the doctor was a Muslim and would "let her die on the table." (I can't say I know that particular doctor personally, but judging by his name and bio I'm pretty sure he's Hispanic, and probably Catholic, if anything.) This is despite the fact these doctors have good reputations in our area and are specialists that both our providers trusted and routinely used.
These patients were very stupid. And maybe dead now.
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When I worked at Mrs. DeLonghorn's clinic, we had a handful of patients who wouldn't see specialists for that very reason. Fact is, we don't have a ton of Caucasian specialists in our area. Or maybe I should say that many of the ones who are "white" are still foreign. One guy wouldn't see Pain Management because he didn't think the doctor would treat him. One lady wouldn't proceed with a needful heart procedure with a cardiologist because she thought the doctor was a Muslim and would "let her die on the table." (I can't say I know that particular doctor personally, but judging by his name and bio I'm pretty sure he's Hispanic, and probably Catholic, if anything.) This is despite the fact these doctors have good reputations in our area and are specialists that both our providers trusted and routinely used.
These patients were very stupid. And maybe dead now.
Maybe I came across wrong, I just prefer a Dr. that speaks "American", and preferably "Texican", no matter what ethnicity or color they are.
I know your wife is in the medical biz, and maybe even a Dr., so I hope you didn't think I was being a dick.
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These patients were very stupid. And maybe dead now.
Charles Darwin did some early work in this field
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Maybe I came across wrong, I just prefer a Dr. that speaks "American", and preferably "Texican", no matter what ethnicity or color they are.
I know your wife is in the medical biz, and maybe even a Dr., so I hope you didn't think I was being a dick.
Nah, I didn't think you were being a dick. I think that's probably the hangup most of our patients had, even if they couldn't articulate it well.
But nationally, and definitely in our area, doctors are increasingly not American and being imported from other countries, and English isn't their first language. All the ones I know or have been to here still speak very good English, even if they have an accent. Nothing that would put me off, but that's just me, YMMV.
I just would reiterate that the main thing is that they're a good doctor with a good reputation.
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Tow truck just took my Ford Flex away for the buyer. :'(
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Tow truck just took my Ford Flex away for the buyer. :'(
That should be in the happy thread.
Did you buy this yet?
(https://i.imgur.com/LdNBPZv.png)
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That should be in the happy thread.
Did you buy this yet?
(https://i.imgur.com/LdNBPZv.png)
That is actually the rare, attractive Euro SUV. Most of them are small, goofy, ugly, humpy-looking little things.
G-wagons are manly.
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And ugly
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And $195K.
That's an @Honestbuckeye (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=37) vehicle right there.
:)
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My Brit pal over in PB Gardens just got one of these last year. Nice ride.
(https://i.imgur.com/o90oliE.png)
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And ugly
Nah they're cool.
THIS type of bulljive is ugly af.
(https://i.imgur.com/NABk7J5.png)
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And $195K.
That's an @Honestbuckeye (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=37) vehicle right there.
:)
Ha! YOU'RE the one that posted it to begin with! :)
The Range Rover is okay. Better than most Euro SUVs.
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That's the coupe version of the GLE, and yes, it's ugly. I like the regular ones.
Thinking about picking up a 2022 for the wife. Driving her Equinox is not like driving my Benz, and I drive hers too much.
(https://i.imgur.com/1brhJWL.png)
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Ha! YOU'RE the one that posted it to begin with! :)
I posted it to help B.R.A.D. with sound advice.
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That's the coupe version of the GLE, and yes, it's ugly. I like the regular ones.
Thinking about picking up a 2022 for the wife. Driving her Equinox is not like driving my Benz, and I drive hers too much.
(https://i.imgur.com/1brhJWL.png)
Still way too humpy for me. But if it makes you and the wife happy, then make it so!
I like larger and more squared off vehicles. The new Toyota Landcruiser is pretty good looking IMO.
(https://i.imgur.com/DMbvxTS.png)
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The Lexus upgrade looks pretty much the same.
You must like the Escalades.
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I'd rather have the big suburban
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That's boxy too.
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The Lexus upgrade looks pretty much the same.
You must like the Escalades.
Yeah the Tahoe/Yukon/Escalades look pretty good again. There was a period where they were getting too "bubbly" and "humpy" but they're back to being more squared off and I like that.
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Yup, I'll just drive my pickup
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Yup, I'll just drive my pickup
I'd take an SUV over a pickup for towing, in a heartbeat, if any of them could manage the task.
Bring back 3/4 ton Suburbans please!
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Takes longer to warm up the cabin in the suburban when it's below zero. And ya can't load the golf cart in the back
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Below zero. Ha!
But anyway that's what fancy new remote start and all that jazz is built for. You live in a small town, what's the hurry?
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Gas is cheap but not that cheap
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That should be in the happy thread.
Did you buy this yet?
Well it might be happy if it weren't forced on me by circumstances... I really hoped to get at least another year and a half out of it, as 2 of 3 kids will be out of HS at that point and the youngest will then only be a year out from driving herself.
But the good thing is that the guy who rear-ended me paid me out of pocket to avoid going through insurance based on the estimate, and I hadn't repaired it yet. So while I didn't get much selling a 100K+ car with multiple mechanical issues and body damage, that is effectively part of the sale price in my mind.
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That is actually the rare, attractive Euro SUV. Most of them are small, goofy, ugly, humpy-looking little things.
G-wagons are manly.
Manly?
Then why is it that the only people I ever see driving them are rich pretentious white ladies?
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I posted it to help B.R.A.D. with sound advice.
Sound advice? Spending that amount of money on a G-wagon when I'm still trying to get myself ready to buy a house is sound advice?
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(https://i.imgur.com/XYT0SGA.png)
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Manly?
Then why is it that the only people I ever see driving them are rich pretentious white ladies?
Honestly I never see anyone driving them here, male or female. Couldn't tell you the last time I saw a G-Wagon in the wild in Central Texas.
In the movies it's always Russian gangsters that drive them, so maybe we're lacking in that particular criminal element?
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Yeah, the G-wagon is the car of rich Newport Beach ladies here.
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Rich ladies here drive F150 Raptors.
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I see them quite often here. Usually driven my men.
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Interesting. The Raptor here is a very male-dominated demo as far as I can tell.
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Interesting. The Raptor here is a very male-dominated demo as far as I can tell.
I was sort of kidding. Although I do know one lady who drives a Raptor.
I honestly couldn't tell you what rich ladies drive here. I don't know any.
Well-off soccer moms drive Range Rovers and Escalades and Yukon Denalis.
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Starting to see more Cybertrucks. Makes me grumpy.
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My wife has a 4Runner but is salivating for the new Sequoia. They definitely look better than they used to.
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Starting to see more Cybertrucks. Makes me grumpy.
There's a part of me that thought that after I saw lots and lots and LOTS (this is OC after all) of Cybertrucks, I would get used to them.
Nope. They look as stupid as they did on day 1.
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Starting to see more Cybertrucks. Makes me grumpy.
I'm actually seeing fewer and fewer of them.
All of the left-leaning EV folks that bought them either out of a true concern for the environment, or for reasons of virtue-signaling (and there are definitely some of both kind around here), have now turned agaist Elon and are ditching all of their Teslas, Cybertruck included.
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I think that California has progressed in the EV adoption curve such that it's not a "virtue signaling" measure nor a marker of someone that leans left.
They're just cars with an alternative powertrain, not a political statement. While this might be a left-leaning state, this is also Orange County, a red[dish] outlier county. And yet you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Tesla 'round here.
That said, I do see a TON of Tesla cars with various anti-Elon stickers or other stuff on them. So buying the car but trying to separate yourself from the stigma is definitely a thing.
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I think that California has progressed in the EV adoption curve such that it's not a "virtue signaling" measure nor a marker of someone that leans left.
They're just cars with an alternative powertrain, not a political statement. While this might be a left-leaning state, this is also Orange County, a red[dish] outlier county. And yet you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Tesla 'round here.
That said, I do see a TON of Tesla cars with various anti-Elon stickers or other stuff on them. So buying the car but trying to separate yourself from the stigma is definitely a thing.
Yeah Texas clearly isn't California. Around here, the demand has dropped through the floor for Tesla vehicles.
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I'm actually seeing fewer and fewer of them.
All of the left-leaning EV folks that bought them either out of a true concern for the environment, or for reasons of virtue-signaling (and there are definitely some of both kind around here), have now turned agaist Elon and are ditching all of their Teslas, Cybertruck included.
I've only seen a few, but that's still too many. Maybe all the red folks around here who want an EV are buying cheap from those goofballs in Austin.
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I've only seen a few, but that's still too many. Maybe all the red folks around here who want an EV are buying cheap from those goofballs in Austin.
That makes both sets of folks goofy.
I need to move further away from people.
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Saw a G- Wagon in this color the other day. Shocking myself- I really liked it.
These are fast as hell.