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Title: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on May 20, 2025, 08:43:22 AM
This is the place to talk about your arthritis, your corns, your nighttime bathroom requirements, and how kids show no respect for their elders and will be the downfall of society.

Oh also, social media are terrible and will also be the downfall of society.

Now get off my lawn!

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Post by: ELA on May 20, 2025, 08:44:56 AM
I thought we already had a whole thread dedicated to how selfish kids were ruining college football
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Post by: utee94 on May 20, 2025, 08:46:55 AM
I'll get it started off.

I am super-annoyed when driving on a two-lane road with a left turn lane (chicken lane for those in certain parts of the country), and a car in front of me in the left lane slows down a lot, in preparation to move into the left turn lane and make a left turn.  If that lane is clear, then move on over, before slowing down.

And also, unless you're pulling a long trailer, there is seldom any need to swing left in order to make a right turn.  And there is never any need to swing right in order to make a left turn.

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Post by: MarqHusker on May 20, 2025, 08:47:01 AM
Quit judging ELA, go get your Labs drawn!
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Post by: Cincydawg on May 20, 2025, 08:58:54 AM
Speaking of driving, a thing I often see is a person on a freeway slowing down well before an exit.  There generally is a bit of a deceleration lane anyway, but the driver slows down without needing to make any kind of real turn.

A fairly common thing here is driver's trying to beat a left turn signal, it goes red, or they rush to turn right on red, and pedestrians are lawfully about to walk into the crosswalk.  I have to really watch for that one.
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Post by: LetsGoPeay on May 20, 2025, 09:02:29 AM
As someone who currently drives about two hours daily on the interstate, semis are my biggest driving pet peeve. One semi is going roughly 2mph faster than another, so they decide to pass each other and slow down all traffic behind them for the better part of the two miles it takes them to pass. When you throw the impatient car driver who wants to whip his vehicle in and out of the smallest of spaces into this equation, it can make for quite the frustrating drive. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on May 20, 2025, 09:05:26 AM
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Post by: FearlessF on May 20, 2025, 09:07:34 AM
the equivalent to the "You Know What I Hate....?" thread on the Big 12 board
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 20, 2025, 09:11:16 AM
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Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on May 20, 2025, 09:17:26 AM
the equivalent to the "You Know What I Hate....?" thread on the Big 12 board
Sadly most of these B1G folks are too afraid to venture down there.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 20, 2025, 09:21:26 AM
Met a microbiologist once.

They’re a lot bigger than I imagined.

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Post by: jgvol on May 20, 2025, 09:39:09 AM
So on vacation with the daughter, son in law, 2 grandkids…..

I paid for the entirety of the accommodations, a pretty penny obviously, and have, and intend to pick up most of the dinner bills, and already in for 350 for condo groceries. 

The wife continues to remind me the kids are on a tight budget, as if I don’t know already, so I am only looking for a few good will gestures as the week goes along.  Just a few…. Hey pops, let us get this (little) thing……

We are beginning day 3 of a 7 day free for all, and I’ve seen….2 Build a Bears bought, 2 souvenir cups, several souvenir T shirts, some liquor purchased, and the cherry on top….a brand new pair of On Cloud sneakers for the SIL. 

Tight budget you say?  Hmmm….🤔.  I think agree , tight on needs, loose on wants. 

Rant over. 

Edit:  daughter and wife just got back from buying daughter a new bathing suit, because the 8 she brought are unacceptable.  
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Post by: 847badgerfan on May 20, 2025, 09:51:20 AM
So on vacation with the daughter, son in law, 2 grandkids…..

I paid for the entirety of the accommodations, a pretty penny obviously, and have, and intend to pick up most of the dinner bills, and already in for 350 for condo groceries. 

The wife continues to remind me the kids are on a tight budget, as if I don’t know already, so I am only looking for a few good will gestures as the week goes along.  Just a few…. Hey pops, let us get this (little) thing……

We are beginning day 3 of a 7 day free for all, and I’ve seen….2 Build a Bears bought, 2 souvenir cups, several souvenir T shirts, some liquor purchased, and the cherry on top….a brand new pair of On Cloud sneakers for the SIL. 

Tight budget you say?  Hmmm….🤔.  I think agree , tight on needs, loose on wants. 

Rant over.

Edit:  daughter and wife just got back from buying daughter a new bathing suit, because the 8 she brought are unacceptable. 
Seems to me that you should develop a sudden "illness" and book a flight home.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: jgvol on May 20, 2025, 09:53:32 AM
Seems to me that you should develop a sudden "illness" and book a flight home.

I drove down.  

I’ll use it as another teachable moment.  
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Post by: 847badgerfan on May 20, 2025, 10:04:50 AM
I drove down. 

I’ll use it as another teachable moment. 
You can fly home and let them drive back. I have a lot of good ideas, you know.
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Post by: FearlessF on May 20, 2025, 10:09:11 AM
good luck
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: jgvol on May 20, 2025, 10:12:13 AM
You can fly home and let them drive back. I have a lot of good ideas, you know.

I’ll run your plan by the wife.  I’ll report back. 😂
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: ELA on May 20, 2025, 10:17:04 AM
Speaking of driving, a thing I often see is a person on a freeway slowing down well before an exit.  There generally is a bit of a deceleration lane anyway, but the driver slows down without needing to make any kind of real turn.

A fairly common thing here is driver's trying to beat a left turn signal, it goes red, or they rush to turn right on red, and pedestrians are lawfully about to walk into the crosswalk.  I have to really watch for that one.
Don't get me started on tunnels
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MikeDeTiger on May 20, 2025, 10:49:28 AM
Young people constantly on their cell phones annoy me.  Seems a lot of age demographics are afflicted with this, but young people are hit the hardest.  When I walk around campus the college students are all walking around, isolated, face buried in their phones.  I've seen more than one of them trip as they either approach or step off of a curb.  Does it phase them?  No, they just recover, and go right back to walking with their screen in front of them.  I wonder if I robbed them, would they even notice? 

Life is short.  You should have friends, especially at school.  I usually made a friend or two in whatever class I was in and after a while you know other people are going where you're going at the same time, and we walked the campus having conversations.  I hate all the social isolation I see with phones. 

Doesn't even seem safe to me.  Besides running into things, women are safer to walk in groups rather than alone, and looking around being aware of your surroundings is a deterrent to bad things happening to you. 

It seems a lot of these girls mitigate their risk of being attractive to predators by being in their pajamas 100% of the time.  We used to at least put on jeans and a t-shirt to go out in public, especially to class.  But I guess that's another rant. 

/old fart rant
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 20, 2025, 10:54:08 AM
You wrote that on your phone?
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 20, 2025, 10:59:11 AM
Cell phones are great for antisocial introverted misanthropes like me. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on May 20, 2025, 11:56:11 AM
Had my eyes dilated, can barely see.  Grump.
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Post by: GopherRock on May 20, 2025, 12:00:04 PM
Had my eyes dilated, can barely see.  Grump.
How many fingers am I holding up?
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Post by: Cincydawg on May 20, 2025, 12:02:17 PM
7.  They dilate your pupils of course and then the doc scans your eyes with a bright as heck Jewish laser ...
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Post by: FearlessF on May 20, 2025, 12:13:22 PM
never noticed that from my eye exams - of course I can't see well to begin with
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Post by: Cincydawg on May 20, 2025, 12:18:53 PM
I had worse than 20-200 vision, couldn't see the big E, even if it was an aircraft carrier.  It's now 20-20, but I can't see up close now, even if it's an aircraft carrier.

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Post by: MikeDeTiger on May 20, 2025, 12:21:27 PM
7.  They dilate your pupils of course and then the doc scans your eyes with a bright as heck Jewish laser ...

Ugh, that's really annoying, especially if you have to leave out in the bright sunlight.  Nothing to do but shield your eyes, have somebody else guide you along and drive you home, and try not to trip on anything while walking with your eyes covered.  
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Post by: Honestbuckeye on May 20, 2025, 12:22:04 PM
Young people constantly on their cell phones annoy me.  Seems a lot of age demographics are afflicted with this, but young people are hit the hardest.  When I walk around campus the college students are all walking around, isolated, face buried in their phones.  I've seen more than one of them trip as they either approach or step off of a curb.  Does it phase them?  No, they just recover, and go right back to walking with their screen in front of them.  I wonder if I robbed them, would they even notice? 

Life is short.  You should have friends, especially at school.  I usually made a friend or two in whatever class I was in and after a while you know other people are going where you're going at the same time, and we walked the campus having conversations.  I hate all the social isolation I see with phones. 

Doesn't even seem safe to me.  Besides running into things, women are safer to walk in groups rather than alone, and looking around being aware of your surroundings is a deterrent to bad things happening to you. 

It seems a lot of these girls mitigate their risk of being attractive to predators by being in their pajamas 100% of the time.  We used to at least put on jeans and a t-shirt to go out in public, especially to class.  But I guess that's another rant. 

/old fart rant
First of all, thank you Utee for starting this thread. I have been looking around more than normal lately and thinking to not let myself turn into a grumpy old man lol. And it starts with this thread just above me that MDT POSTED.

everywhere you go all you see is people, and especially children, with their face buried in their phones. To me this is where it’s killing us as a society. Children should be active or playing, and people no longer have the ability to actually talk to each other. This is where the polarization begins and ends 
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Post by: Cincydawg on May 20, 2025, 12:24:39 PM
One thing about phones I notice is folks in the park, it's a nice park, nose buried in cell.  They CAME to the park to see the park, trees, people, girls, etc., and all they do is watch their phone and bump into me.  Humans can't seem to live more than a minute without checking their phones.

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Post by: 847badgerfan on May 20, 2025, 12:39:12 PM
I never take my phone into public space.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 24, 2025, 05:49:02 PM
I had to pick up homebrew ingredients for Monday. So the plan was for my wife and I to take the dog to the brewery right by the homebrew store. 

One of the big things I always wanted when getting a dog was that he would be a "brewery dog", and to take him places like that. Of course, that got off to a rough start since we brought him home about 2 months before COVID hit :96:

Nope. Place was an utter madhouse. Granted, it's in an area frequented by young/hip people (i.e. nothing like us), so I get it. But there was no way we were going to try to brave that insanity. 

So we got the homebrew ingredients, and then decided to try a much more "chill" brewery on the way home. 

Nope. That place was crazy too. 

So we came home. The world is just too damn people-y today. 
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 24, 2025, 06:11:58 PM
My phone tells me I average about 1 hour of screen time per week.  I assume this is extremely low on average.  

Any place I specifically go to be at that place, don't have my phone on me.  If I'm going to meet someone to interact and fellowship with them, don't have my phone on me.

The masses are married to their phones and it's gross.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 25, 2025, 11:06:47 AM
The brew pub concept is a good one, I think, perhaps "too good" in the sense it attracts "people".  

I stumbled into one in Seattle circa 1988 or so, I was there for a conference, and went to lunch.  The place had a fantastic salmon sandwich and some kind of beer that came out of a thing they called a "tap".  It was really good.
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Post by: MrNubbz on May 25, 2025, 12:28:06 PM
One thing about phones I notice is folks in the park, it's a nice park, nose buried in cell.  They CAME to the park to see the park, trees, people, girls, etc., and all they do is watch their phone and bump into me. Humans can't seem to live more than a minute without checking their phones.
Not really I simply got in the habit of leaving it away from me at work and checking it when practical.But I dont use it every day just a flip phone but i can get maps but don't use that either. I always look at one before I leave,I'm good. Just got my 1st cell last year for "basic hello need/this or that ,good bye". Would not have if payphones were still a viable option.

I was surprised at how many people still don't have or want one. I thought I was the last hold out. We were a cluster of outcasts that never went on Social media be it facespace,Instagram,linkedin,twatter or what ever. This place was it - I have been on next door but that was just to find/give local info. Now people at work walking around with cells like it's a colostomy bag just pisses me off
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Post by: FearlessF on May 25, 2025, 06:06:03 PM
I checked mine after the turn, on #11
nothing to report as usual
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Post by: huskerdinie on May 25, 2025, 07:52:30 PM
Only reason I have a cell phone right now is because it is required for my job of taking care of my sister --I log in and out on my cell phone - if I don't do that, I wouldn't get paid.  I use my computer to set up the visits on a similar app but I can't do that on my cell, so I just recently bought a tablet that I can take with me to some scheduling while waiting at the doctor or the library waiting on my sister, etc.  I haven't quite got the hang of it yet, but at least I think I finally figured out how to get my detachable keyboard to work, lol.  Bluetooth, Wi-fi, hot spot, tethering ----I get confused, ha ha.  The things we do for family.  
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 25, 2025, 10:53:03 PM
My phone has a nice trail app, but you don't get any reception on any of the good hikes, due to steep cliffs and canyon walls. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on May 26, 2025, 08:02:08 AM
Mine never rings unless someone calls who is already recognized, and that is very rare.
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Post by: FearlessF on May 26, 2025, 08:16:34 AM
mine doesn't ring often enuff for my liking but,............. I'm in sales
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 26, 2025, 08:57:30 AM
The phone is just an app on my phone... That I rarely use. 
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Post by: FearlessF on May 26, 2025, 08:59:47 AM
the one app on my phone that I really don't enjoy using is the email app, but I'm in sales
a good reason to retire
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Post by: MikeDeTiger on May 27, 2025, 10:44:29 AM
I hate it when my friends/family text me long, ongoing stuff that takes forever to type out.  Stuff that could've been solved with a 30 second phone call.  But no, they insist on texting, and then asking followup questions on more texts, and needing clarification because they didn't understand a text......

If I call them, or ask to call them to get it over with more quickly, they say no, they're too busy. 

If you're too busy to pick up the phone, you're too busy to text.  Use texts for quick, unimportant things.  Call people for actual conversations.  I swear, I get texts like "Grandma is in the hospital again, here's 8 pages of text that doesn't explain nearly as much as I think it does while I type it over 30 minutes.  I could call you and tell you much more clearly and quickly what's going on, but I'm a slave to my habits and refuse to change."

Or at least that's how I read those kind of texts.  
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Post by: jgvol on May 27, 2025, 11:57:12 AM
Don't ever dare add this grumpy old man to a group text.

I have enough knuckleheads at work that insist on copying me on every e-mail chain that doesn't necessarily pertain to me.

And I'll place a voodoo curse on the idiot in either, that replies to all --- "ok", or, "thanks".
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on May 30, 2025, 09:17:24 AM
One thing about phones I notice is folks in the park, it's a nice park, nose buried in cell.  They CAME to the park to see the park, trees, people, girls, etc., and all they do is watch their phone and bump into me.  Humans can't seem to live more than a minute without checking their phones.


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Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 30, 2025, 09:42:50 AM
Need to post that sign in airports everywhere.
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Post by: Riffraft on May 30, 2025, 11:45:20 AM
I've been known to walk straight at them to see if they actually look up and move
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Post by: MikeDeTiger on May 30, 2025, 01:35:09 PM
My neighbor is a good enough guy, no major problems with that family.  He's much younger than me, I'd say mid-late-20's.  But they leave one trash can out at the road.  Due to the way our lots are located on a curve, both our driveways hit the road right next to each other, and he puts their trash cans on the side of their driveway that also puts it on the side of my driveway.  The old neighbors put their trash cans on the other side of their driveway so it wasn't as in our face.  He also took them in.

This kid puts out two trash cans every week.....and inexplicably takes one of them in after the truck comes.  The other one lives out there, and it's an eyesore, I'm tired of looking at it, and I don't understand why?!??  Just take your other damn trash can in!  So I guess it's more accurate to say he puts out one trash can each week, because he never actually has to put out the second one, because it stays out.  

I at least wouldn't have to look at it quite as much, and my family wouldn't have to be careful to avoid it while backing out if he'd put it on the other side of their driveway.  It's not the kind of thing I'm willing to go talk to him about, but it's enough of a thing that it irks the hell out of me.  

I want my old neighbors back.  But no, that idiot had to have an affair, split up their marriage, and sell the house.  
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Post by: utee94 on May 30, 2025, 01:50:12 PM
My neighbor is a good enough guy, no major problems with that family.  He's much younger than me, I'd say mid-late-20's.  But they leave one trash can out at the road.  Due to the way our lots are located on a curve, both our driveways hit the road right next to each other, and he puts their trash cans on the side of their driveway that also puts it on the side of my driveway.  The old neighbors put their trash cans on the other side of their driveway so it wasn't as in our face.  He also took them in.

This kid puts out two trash cans every week.....and inexplicably takes one of them in after the truck comes.  The other one lives out there, and it's an eyesore, I'm tired of looking at it, and I don't understand why?!??  Just take your other damn trash can in!  So I guess it's more accurate to say he puts out one trash can each week, because he never actually has to put out the second one, because it stays out. 

I at least wouldn't have to look at it quite as much, and my family wouldn't have to be careful to avoid it while backing out if he'd put it on the other side of their driveway.  It's not the kind of thing I'm willing to go talk to him about, but it's enough of a thing that it irks the hell out of me. 

I want my old neighbors back.  But no, that idiot had to have an affair, split up their marriage, and sell the house. 
This kind of thing annoys me, too.

But since moving to a neighborhood with an HOA, I never have to deal with it.  Anyone doing this would get fined into oblivion.

Lots of folks complain about HOAs but I'm delighted that ours enforces the things that should be considered common sense and good manners, since neither of those seem to exist anymore.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on May 30, 2025, 01:53:24 PM
This kind of thing annoys me, too.

But since moving to a neighborhood with an HOA, I never have to deal with it.  Anyone doing this would get fined into oblivion.

Lots of folks complain about HOAs but I'm delighted that ours enforces the things that should be considered common sense and good manners, since neither of those seem to exist anymore.
The State of Florida eliminated this to a point. you can leave it out for 24 hours without getting fined now. HOA Nazi's here were fining people after their allotted times, which were as little as 2 hours after pickup.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on May 30, 2025, 01:54:31 PM
I've been known to walk straight at them to see if they actually look up and move
There were 3 that did note move in my two jaunts through O'Hare in the past week. They each got a shoulder shiver. Oops.
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Post by: bayareabadger on May 30, 2025, 01:54:36 PM
Need to post that sign in airports everywhere.
The real old guy catch-22. on one hand, there’s a strong dislike of phones. On the other, you might have to make eye contact or interact with someone in the goddamn airport.
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Post by: jgvol on May 30, 2025, 03:51:00 PM
My neighbor is a good enough guy, no major problems with that family.  He's much younger than me, I'd say mid-late-20's.  But they leave one trash can out at the road.  Due to the way our lots are located on a curve, both our driveways hit the road right next to each other, and he puts their trash cans on the side of their driveway that also puts it on the side of my driveway.  The old neighbors put their trash cans on the other side of their driveway so it wasn't as in our face.  He also took them in.

This kid puts out two trash cans every week.....and inexplicably takes one of them in after the truck comes.  The other one lives out there, and it's an eyesore, I'm tired of looking at it, and I don't understand why?!??  Just take your other damn trash can in!  So I guess it's more accurate to say he puts out one trash can each week, because he never actually has to put out the second one, because it stays out. 

I at least wouldn't have to look at it quite as much, and my family wouldn't have to be careful to avoid it while backing out if he'd put it on the other side of their driveway.  It's not the kind of thing I'm willing to go talk to him about, but it's enough of a thing that it irks the hell out of me. 

I want my old neighbors back.  But no, that idiot had to have an affair, split up their marriage, and sell the house. 

It'd be a real shame if that can that lives at the end of the driveway came up missing.

Or mysteriously turned up on the other side of his driveway.
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 30, 2025, 03:54:20 PM
Need to post that sign in airports everywhere.
FIFY
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 30, 2025, 03:55:05 PM
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 30, 2025, 03:58:04 PM
I'd decorate a flowery cross and stick it in the ground on that edge of his driveway, like someone died there.

The cans will stay on the other side, even the permanent one.
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Post by: utee94 on May 30, 2025, 04:07:17 PM
The State of Florida eliminated this to a point. you can leave it out for 24 hours without getting fined now. HOA Nazi's here were fining people after their allotted times, which were as little as 2 hours after pickup.
MDT's neighbor is leaving it out permanently.  Ain't no Florida law gonna save somebody doing that.  Daily fines with escalators.
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Post by: huskerdinie on May 30, 2025, 07:56:19 PM
Our mobile home park at least gives everyone one full day to get their cans back by the trailers - trash is picked up separately from the recycle, so you never know for sure when they will be by.  At least we know what day to put them out.  Lawn stuff is picked up on a separate day and large branches etc. are also picked up separately.  We share a driveway with someone but they put their cans out on the west side of the driveway and we put ours out on the right side.  Never had a problem with them, thank goodness.  We are warned of fines if the cans are not back to the house by the following morning for sure.  
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Post by: FearlessF on May 30, 2025, 10:11:10 PM
My neighbor is a good enough guy, no major problems with that family.  He's much younger than me, I'd say mid-late-20's.  But they leave one trash can out at the road.  Due to the way our lots are located on a curve, both our driveways hit the road right next to each other, and he puts their trash cans on the side of their driveway that also puts it on the side of my driveway.  The old neighbors put their trash cans on the other side of their driveway so it wasn't as in our face.  He also took them in.

This kid puts out two trash cans every week.....and inexplicably takes one of them in after the truck comes.  The other one lives out there, and it's an eyesore, I'm tired of looking at it, and I don't understand why?!??  Just take your other damn trash can in!  So I guess it's more accurate to say he puts out one trash can each week, because he never actually has to put out the second one, because it stays out. 

I at least wouldn't have to look at it quite as much, and my family wouldn't have to be careful to avoid it while backing out if he'd put it on the other side of their driveway.  It's not the kind of thing I'm willing to go talk to him about, but it's enough of a thing that it irks the hell out of me. 

I want my old neighbors back.  But no, that idiot had to have an affair, split up their marriage, and sell the house. 
if it irks the hell out of you, go talk to him
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Post by: CatsbyAZ on May 31, 2025, 11:40:12 AM
This kid puts out two trash cans every week.....and inexplicably takes one of them in after the truck comes.  The other one lives out there, and it's an eyesore, I'm tired of looking at it, and I don't understand why?!??  Just take your other damn trash can in!  So I guess it's more accurate to say he puts out one trash can each week, because he never actually has to put out the second one, because it stays out. 


My Mom had a backhanded way of dealing with ssimilar neighbor when us brothers were adolescents. In one of the small Midwest towns that our childhood took us through, there were known poachers next door. After quartering their offseason deer in their back shed and storing its meat in their deep freezer, the remains would get tossed into the trash can that would sit at the end of their driveway. Us brothers knew this without having to take a peek inside their garbage cans because we were classmates with the neighbor's kids, who bragged at school about (offseason) hunting trips with their Dad.

The weekly trash truck refused to take their garbage can full of mostly animal remains. They left flyers with directions to the county's Wildlife Carcass Disposal pit. So their trash can continued to stink up the end of their driveway and that's what bothered my Mom. She had a sensitive nose prone to triggering headaches, which is why us brothers were prompted to keep our fish aquariums, lizard terrarium, and the cat's litter box so clean. She wondered aloud why our neighbors didn't bury the deer remains in the vast forest behind our shared property line. (Answer: they were lazy bumpkins.)

Didn't leaving animal remains out make it their poaching more known? Which is what happened. Deputies showed up one afternoon while us brothers were shooting hoops in our driveway, and paid our neighbor's trash cans a visit. Confronted by our neighbors, the sheriff's deputies said they didn't need a warrant since the trash cans were left out in the street. By then they'd seen enough to summon the county game warden. Our neighbors were eventually investigated for poaching. Fines and misdemeanors were weighed, but our neighbors (who already had mild criminal records), hired a lawyer and easily beat potential charges by raising enough doubt, such as claiming the deer was roadkill they'd cleaned up. But the point was made: 1) Don't leave your trash cans on the street, and 2) don't let your trash cans stink over night.

A decade later, when us brothers were in our twenties, she revealed how her invisible hand contributed to this lesson on the day before deputies showed up. During one of her visits to Walmart in the next town over, she used the payphone to call the county sheriff's office to report a suspicious smell, and playing her hand as the unsuspecting housewife, she innocently worried whether the smell could be a body. Needless to say, our neighbors never again left their garbage cans out overnight.





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Post by: utee94 on May 31, 2025, 11:57:31 AM
At my old house, our neighbors had several cars and they always parked a car in front of my house-- even though they had the space to park in front of their own.  Now I completely understand that the streets are public property and there's no legal right to the space in front of your own house, but since they were clearly parking in front of my house, to keep the street clear in front of their own, I found it to be very annoying.  I mentioned it a couple of times and they just sort of said, "oh yeah, sorry."  But they continued to do it anyway.

So, I started parking in front of their house every time they were parked in front of mine.  Eventually, they stopped doing it.

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Post by: utee94 on May 31, 2025, 11:59:57 AM
I'd actually forgotten about that.  The HOA prevents that sort of thing from ever becoming an issue in our new neighborhood.

God Bless the HOA!
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 31, 2025, 12:49:35 PM
At my old house, our neighbors had several cars and they always parked a car in front of my house-- even though they had the space to park in front of their own.  Now I completely understand that the streets are public property and there's no legal right to the space in front of your own house, but since they were clearly parking in front of my house, to keep the street clear in front of their own, I found it to be very annoying.  I mentioned it a couple of times and they just sort of said, "oh yeah, sorry."  But they continued to do it anyway.

So, I started parking in front of their house every time they were parked in front of mine.  Eventually, they stopped doing it.
Parking on our street has been a nightmare for most of the past 18 months as our next door neighbors were doing a full down-to-the-studs renovation and putting in a pool. There's been workmen coming and going that entire time. It's a neighborhood without a ton of room anyway, and between my Jeep in the garage, my wife's RX in the driveway, my Flex on the street, and my son's Highlander on the street--sometimes it gets a little difficult to find a place to park with all the extra vehicles there during the day working on the house. 

Well, the sonofabitch about four houses up the street (same guy whose pitbull attacked a golden retriever without provocation and I intervened a few years ago) got pissy one day when my son had been looking for parking and ended up in front of his house. Wrote a nasty note on a piece of paper saying my son should park down by the corner instead. And yet I believe it was literally the first time my son ever parked there; we'd all rather be closer to our own house. Now the bastard puts cones on the street in front of his house to save parking for himself and his giant truck. 

Great job, asshole. Oh, and from the looks of you... Taking a few extra steps each day might do you some good. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 31, 2025, 12:59:27 PM
HOA?

Is this a curmudgeon thread, or male Karen?
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Post by: ELA on May 31, 2025, 02:32:49 PM
HOA?

Is this a curmudgeon thread, or male Karen?
Darren
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on May 31, 2025, 10:55:58 PM
The HOA is awesome.  No Karens needed, the fines take care of it all.

Everyone signs up for it, if you don't like it, plenty of places to live that don't have it, for those who enjoy seeing cars on blocks in the neighborhood frontyards.
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Post by: FearlessF on June 01, 2025, 09:43:21 AM
https://youtu.be/omGDmvNWLVw
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Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 02, 2025, 09:45:11 AM
Parking on our street has been a nightmare for most of the past 18 months as our next door neighbors were doing a full down-to-the-studs renovation and putting in a pool. There's been workmen coming and going that entire time. It's a neighborhood without a ton of room anyway, and between my Jeep in the garage, my wife's RX in the driveway, my Flex on the street, and my son's Highlander on the street--sometimes it gets a little difficult to find a place to park with all the extra vehicles there during the day working on the house.

Well, the sonofabitch about four houses up the street (same guy whose pitbull attacked a golden retriever without provocation and I intervened a few years ago) got pissy one day when my son had been looking for parking and ended up in front of his house. Wrote a nasty note on a piece of paper saying my son should park down by the corner instead. And yet I believe it was literally the first time my son ever parked there; we'd all rather be closer to our own house. Now the bastard puts cones on the street in front of his house to save parking for himself and his giant truck.

Great job, asshole. Oh, and from the looks of you... Taking a few extra steps each day might do you some good.

Like jgvol said....

It would be a shame if something were to.....happen.....to those cones.  
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Post by: 847badgerfan on June 02, 2025, 09:54:04 AM
Like jgvol said....

It would be a shame if something were to.....happen.....to those cones. 
Everyone has ring cameras now.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 12, 2025, 07:06:19 PM
So my immediate neighbor has FINALLY completed--after 18 months--their home remodel. Which for me as someone who works from home 80% of the time, and likes to keep the windows open unless it's 85+ degrees and I need to run the AC, has been rough. Between the construction noise, and the constant music, and all that... It's been rough. 

Well, it's over. Great, right? 

No. They've got teenage boys, they put in a pool, and it's now the summer. And the teenage boys have friends. And they all like to hang out in the backyard and in the pool. So now construction noise and music has been replaced by idiot teenagers and... music. And it's not hot enough for me to close those windows and run the AC yet. And then in the evening they all like to shoot hoops on their basketball hoop in the front yard... Bang. Bang. Bang. Clang. Bang. Bang. Bang. Clang. Ugh. 

Fun. I'd say that at least I don't have to say "GET OFF MY LAWN!", but the basketball occasionally get onto my lawn and they run up there to retrieve. 

Is that "Grumpy Old Man" enough for y'all?
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 12, 2025, 07:08:28 PM
That's the spirit!
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Post by: utee94 on June 12, 2025, 07:13:40 PM
Today at the office, I was walking down the two flights of stairs from my floor, to the cafeteria, to grab some of the worst, most bland office cafeteria food ever, because I didn't have time to pack a lunch like I usually do.

So anyway, I end up stuck behind this guy walking down the stairs very slowly, because... he's on his GD phone, reading and texting.  He's going so slow, but there's enough traffic coming up the stairs, I don't have a chance to get around him.  Finally we get to the bottom, and he takes one step away from the bottom stair, and just stops.  And there's not enough room to get around him.  So I finally just tap him on the shoulder and say, "Excuse me" and he sort of looks back at me blankly, but moves slightly further away from the stairway, and I can finally get around him.

Then after I grab my lunch and I'm headed back up the stairs, on two occasions I encounter people coming down the stairs side by side, just chatting it up, oblivious to oncoming traffic.  Each time they see me, and still make no move to get single file, until they're basically on top of me.  I had to come to a complete stop, because otherwise they would not have moved in time for me to NOT plow into them.

Being back in the office is great, really great!
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on June 12, 2025, 08:26:14 PM
So my immediate neighbor has FINALLY completed--after 18 months--their home remodel. Which for me as someone who works from home 80% of the time, and likes to keep the windows open unless it's 85+ degrees and I need to run the AC, has been rough. Between the construction noise, and the constant music, and all that... It's been rough.

Well, it's over. Great, right?

No. They've got teenage boys, they put in a pool, and it's now the summer. And the teenage boys have friends. And they all like to hang out in the backyard and in the pool. So now construction noise and music has been replaced by idiot teenagers and... music. And it's not hot enough for me to close those windows and run the AC yet. And then in the evening they all like to shoot hoops on their basketball hoop in the front yard... Bang. Bang. Bang. Clang. Bang. Bang. Bang. Clang. Ugh.

Fun. I'd say that at least I don't have to say "GET OFF MY LAWN!", but the basketball occasionally get onto my lawn and they run up there to retrieve.

Is that "Grumpy Old Man" enough for y'all?


Thread winner. 

You know you're grumpy and old when you're a Purdue guy, complaining about basketball sounds. 
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Post by: Gigem on June 12, 2025, 10:35:45 PM
I honestly can’t imagine what it would feel like to leave the windows open into June because it’s not hot enough for AC. 
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Post by: FearlessF on June 13, 2025, 12:01:38 AM
just move to Cali
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Post by: 847badgerfan on June 13, 2025, 06:52:39 AM
just move to Cali
Are you nuts?
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Post by: Cincydawg on June 13, 2025, 08:33:18 AM
We were checking in for our flight to SD and Delta had three desks open in that tier, which was enough, but some dude was having major issues and screaming at the desk agent.  Now people were starting to line up.  We got in just before this started.  The man started to walk away several times and turned around to scream and curse at the agent.  Another Delta person, a red coat, was also there trying to defuse.  Meanwhile the line got to maybe 20 and folks were leaving to go to another desk.  I've never seen anyone stay that long so incensed.  We were checked in and leaving and he was still going at it.  

We had a flight on Air Canada a while back that the cruise line had made.  We showed up early to check in and the desk clerk told us the tickets were "not confirmed".  This was bad news as we had a flight to Toronto and then Dubai to board our cruise ship.  We didn't scream and curse, but it lasted a while with him on the phone.  I still had the number for the cruise line air department and fortunately they answered right away and somehow fixed the issue.  I don't know why one would scream and curse that long at an airline employee.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 13, 2025, 08:58:02 AM
some losers vent longer than others
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Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 13, 2025, 11:05:35 AM
So my immediate neighbor has FINALLY completed--after 18 months--their home remodel. Which for me as someone who works from home 80% of the time, and likes to keep the windows open unless it's 85+ degrees and I need to run the AC, has been rough. Between the construction noise, and the constant music, and all that... It's been rough.

Well, it's over. Great, right?

No. They've got teenage boys, they put in a pool, and it's now the summer. And the teenage boys have friends. And they all like to hang out in the backyard and in the pool. So now construction noise and music has been replaced by idiot teenagers and... music. And it's not hot enough for me to close those windows and run the AC yet. And then in the evening they all like to shoot hoops on their basketball hoop in the front yard... Bang. Bang. Bang. Clang. Bang. Bang. Bang. Clang. Ugh.

Fun. I'd say that at least I don't have to say "GET OFF MY LAWN!", but the basketball occasionally get onto my lawn and they run up there to retrieve.

Is that "Grumpy Old Man" enough for y'all?

I feel like we were meant to be friends.  I identify with this post.  It has just the right amount of irritability, curmudgeonliness, and tolerance.  

I almost have some sympathy for your young neighbors, as I loved playing basketball until I physically couldn't.  At that age I was out with the neighborhood kids until the sun went down, every day.  Never crossed my mind we might be annoying the Grumpy Old Men.  Which....includes me now, so......I said I almost have sympathy for your young neighbors :)

I'm reminded of Danny Devito and Billy Crystal in Throw Mama From The Train.....crisscross, brad.....crisscross.  I'll take care of your neighbors with too much construction and pools and basketballs, and you take care of my neighbors who won't bring their trash in.  
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Post by: MrNubbz on June 13, 2025, 04:32:27 PM
So my immediate neighbor has FINALLY completed--after 18 months--their home remodel. Which for me as someone who works from home 80% of the time, and likes to keep the windows open unless it's 85+ degrees and I need to run the AC, has been rough. Between the construction noise, and the constant music, and all that... It's been rough.

Well, it's over. Great, right?

No. They've got teenage boys, they put in a pool, and it's now the summer. And the teenage boys have friends. And they all like to hang out in the backyard and in the pool. So now construction noise and music has been replaced by idiot teenagers and... music. And it's not hot enough for me to close those windows and run the AC yet. And then in the evening they all like to shoot hoops on their basketball hoop in the front yard... Bang. Bang. Bang. Clang. Bang. Bang. Bang. Clang. Ugh.


Parking on our street has been a nightmare for most of the past 18 months as our next door neighbors were doing a full down-to-the-studs renovation and putting in a pool. There's been workmen coming and going that entire time. It's a neighborhood without a ton of room anyway, and between my Jeep in the garage, my wife's RX in the driveway, my Flex on the street, and my son's Highlander on the street--sometimes it gets a little difficult to find a place to park with all the extra vehicles there during the day working on the house.

Well, the sonofabitch about four houses up the street (same guy whose pitbull attacked a golden retriever without provocation and I intervened a few years ago) got pissy one day when my son had been looking for parking and ended up in front of his house. Wrote a nasty note on a piece of paper saying my son should park down by the corner instead. And yet I believe it was literally the first time my son ever parked there; we'd all rather be closer to our own house. Now the bastard puts cones on the street in front of his house to save parking for himself and his giant truck.

Great job, asshole. Oh, and from the looks of you... Taking a few extra steps each day might do you some good.
After those who could blame you if you snap, just don't go full William Foster. Even though sometimes others have a kharmic lesson coming
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 16, 2025, 09:49:38 AM
This is more of a general complaint than specifically me being a grumpy old man, but I don't know where else to put this.

Early Monday morning meetings should be banned.  Give me a chance to get my work-legs under me, catch up on the emails people send throughout the weekend even though they know I'm not checking them (nor am I required to), get that second cup of (insert caffeine product here) in me, and clear the cobwebs from my brain.  

Don't hit me with back to back 9 am and 10 am meetings to engineer solutions to your decrepit, ancient, abysmal workflows until, like, 11 am on Monday, at the earliest.

Sigh.  Okay, off to early Monday morning meetings.  
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Post by: 847badgerfan on June 16, 2025, 09:57:46 AM
I have one at 11 AM that I'm not happy about.
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Post by: utee94 on June 16, 2025, 09:58:36 AM
Only thing worse than Monday morning meetings, is Friday afternoon meetings, especially in the summer.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on June 16, 2025, 10:01:08 AM
My business partner used to love to call early Monday morning and later Friday afternoon meetings.

Then I said, I'm gonna have to break away. Those meetings stopped.
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Post by: MrNubbz on June 16, 2025, 10:09:13 AM
Today at the office, I was walking down the two flights of stairs from my floor, to the cafeteria, to grab some of the worst, most bland office cafeteria food ever, because I didn't have time to pack a lunch like I usually do.

So anyway, I end up stuck behind this guy walking down the stairs very slowly, because... he's on his GD phone, reading and texting.  He's going so slow, but there's enough traffic coming up the stairs, I don't have a chance to get around him.  Finally we get to the bottom, and he takes one step away from the bottom stair, and just stops.  And there's not enough room to get around him.  So I finally just tap him on the shoulder and say, "Excuse me" and he sort of looks back at me blankly, but moves slightly further away from the stairway, and I can finally get around him.

Then after I grab my lunch and I'm headed back up the stairs, on two occasions I encounter people coming down the stairs side by side, just chatting it up, oblivious to oncoming traffic.  Each time they see me, and still make no move to get single file, until they're basically on top of me.  I had to come to a complete stop, because otherwise they would not have moved in time for me to NOT plow into them.

Being back in the office is great, really great!
Here I thought you was a player,mover and a shaker amongst the Tribe.What we have here is a complete lack of respect for Authority. Ya should have dropped the "Do you know who I am" card,I'm sure they would have parted like the Red Sea. Or maybe you should make more office appearances so Dell's detectives aren't tossing you out the side door.
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Post by: MrNubbz on June 16, 2025, 10:12:28 AM
My business partner used to love to call early Monday morning and later Friday afternoon meetings.

Then I said, I'm gonna have to break away. Those meetings stopped.
Prolly pissed off the Pub/Course Manager
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 16, 2025, 10:56:08 AM
Today at the office, I was walking down the two flights of stairs from my floor, to the cafeteria, to grab some of the worst, most bland office cafeteria food ever, because I didn't have time to pack a lunch like I usually do.

So anyway, I end up stuck behind this guy walking down the stairs very slowly, because... he's on his GD phone, reading and texting.  He's going so slow, but there's enough traffic coming up the stairs, I don't have a chance to get around him.  Finally we get to the bottom, and he takes one step away from the bottom stair, and just stops.  And there's not enough room to get around him.  So I finally just tap him on the shoulder and say, "Excuse me" and he sort of looks back at me blankly, but moves slightly further away from the stairway, and I can finally get around him.

Then after I grab my lunch and I'm headed back up the stairs, on two occasions I encounter people coming down the stairs side by side, just chatting it up, oblivious to oncoming traffic.  Each time they see me, and still make no move to get single file, until they're basically on top of me.  I had to come to a complete stop, because otherwise they would not have moved in time for me to NOT plow into them.

Being back in the office is great, really great!
I saw a post on Instagram... Something to the effect of:

There's nothing worse than when you're a fast walker... And you're walking behind another fast walker but they're only 95% as fast as you. So now you have to either slow down, or you have to suddenly accelerate to comically fast walking to appropriately pass them.

Story of my life. 
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Post by: MrNubbz on June 16, 2025, 11:29:19 AM
I saw a post on Instagram... Something to the effect of:

There's nothing worse than when you're a fast walker... And you're walking behind another fast walker but they're only 95% as fast as you. So now you have to either slow down, or you have to suddenly accelerate to comically fast walking to appropriately pass them.

Story of my life.
Ya well you're trying to get to the ball in the rough and use the foot wedge before anyone notices
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 16, 2025, 11:49:19 AM
Ya well you're trying to get to the ball in the rough and use the foot wedge before anyone notices
Sounds like...

(https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUyYXU4MHF6bnRiazVsZGpqcjk4ZWVyMjBuM2M4aW84Ynl5NmV3c3AzMiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/GOXDFrZpjTlHG/source.gif)
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Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 16, 2025, 12:40:26 PM
I saw a post on Instagram... Something to the effect of:

There's nothing worse than when you're a fast walker... And you're walking behind another fast walker but they're only 95% as fast as you. So now you have to either slow down, or you have to suddenly accelerate to comically fast walking to appropriately pass them.

Story of my life.

This happens a lot to me while driving.  Do I slow down 2-3 mph, or do I risk getting a ticket as I gun it way faster to pass them even though I was already going 10 over the limit?
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on June 16, 2025, 12:51:31 PM
Only thing worse than Monday morning meetings, is Friday afternoon meetings, especially in the summer.
I had a boss who would do our weekly team check out at 1:30. It wasn’t my favorite, but it was smart from a business sense. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 17, 2025, 12:53:17 PM
Today is the first time it won't rain hard here in like a week and a half.  Yesterday, before the weather hit for the remainder of the day, whatever lawn service this university uses came to mow my building.  The ground was still soaking wet from the previous days' rain, and they rutted up the lawn really badly.  

Geez, it's not even my yard and I want to yell at them like an old fart.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Gigem on June 17, 2025, 01:00:27 PM
Today is the first time it won't rain hard here in like a week and a half.  Yesterday, before the weather hit for the remainder of the day, whatever lawn service this university uses came to mow my building.  The ground was still soaking wet from the previous days' rain, and they rutted up the lawn really badly. 

Geez, it's not even my yard and I want to yell at them like an old fart. 
I wonder if Lamar has their own ground crew?  I would think so.  Pretty large place to outsource.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 22, 2025, 07:46:25 AM
"Service" dogs .... grrr.

I had friends in Cincy who had a really nice dog they turned into a "service dog" by the expedient of buying a $15 vest for him, no training or anything, just so he could go with them into various stores and restaurants.  I see them more and more, as do we all now.  Many are just regular dogs and their owners don't need any "service".

"Handicapped" parking spaces ...  grrr.

Most of the time folks who use them are just fat and would benefit from walking a bit, if they can walk at all.  Then they get a motorized cart to carry their lard A to the lard section at Kroger where they block the aisle.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on June 22, 2025, 07:50:02 AM
"Service" dogs are everywhere down here. I HATE that shit. 

Some people, like me, are allergic to f'ing dogs.

Would you invite a hairy naked man into your house, one who doesn't wipe his ass, and let him sit on your couch?

That's a dog.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 22, 2025, 08:51:46 AM
I'm a dog person, I like nearly every dog, and they seem to like me.  I'd have dogs were it practicable for us.  I don't like this fake service dog gig.  I lived most of my life without SDs, and so did most other folks.  I understand there are a very few people who benefit from having a TRAINED actual service dog around them, but they probably should be chary of going out in public anyway.

My wife really gets annoyed when she sees on in Kroger or a restaurant.
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Post by: FearlessF on June 22, 2025, 08:57:43 AM
maybe why she doesn't like San Diego 
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Post by: 847badgerfan on June 22, 2025, 09:06:53 AM
Publix doesn't allow "service" dogs. They ask for papers at the door if you try to bring a dog in. 

I used to see them all the time. Now I don't see them - ever.

Good for me.

I'd estimate the percentage of service dogs to "service" dogs is actually around 0.01 percent.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 22, 2025, 09:07:51 AM
It is odd, as larger cities go, I find San Diego to be rather appealing.  It's one of a few I'd visit just to visit, I think.  There aren't many in that category but thinking about it there are a fair number for me personally.
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on June 22, 2025, 10:08:52 AM
San Diego is the only place in CA that I've been. It was Christmas, and the entire country was like single digits or lower except San Diego, which was fine. It was 2017, the year that OSU played USC in Texas, even though both were conference champs and should have played in the Rose Bowl. I had a layover in Texas on the way back to Columbus, where we picked up a bunch of rabid OSU fans that had attended the game. They said it was cold. 
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Post by: FearlessF on June 22, 2025, 10:29:02 AM
I'd like to stay at the Hotel del Coronado sometime.
Walked around in the hotel once, great place.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on June 22, 2025, 11:58:15 AM
"Service" dogs are everywhere down here. I HATE that shit.

Some people, like me, are allergic to f'ing dogs.

Would you invite a hairy naked man into your house, one who doesn't wipe his ass, and let him sit on your couch?

That's a dog.
Just be grateful cats don't want to go shopping
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Riffraft on June 22, 2025, 12:22:00 PM
I'm a dog person, I like nearly every dog, and they seem to like me.  I'd have dogs were it practicable for us.  I don't like this fake service dog gig.  I lived most of my life without SDs, and so did most other folks.  I understand there are a very few people who benefit from having a TRAINED actual service dog around them, but they probably should be chary of going out in public anyway.

My wife really gets annoyed when she sees on in Kroger or a restaurant.
In a bar in the airport, some idiot had his dog sitting on the stool next to him.  I absolutely hate going to a restaurant with any kind of animal around. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 23, 2025, 09:38:16 AM
Dogs make just about everything better, and I'm a grumpy old fart about people who don't like dogs.

You dog haters are now on my list of suspicious people.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 23, 2025, 09:41:33 AM
I love my dog.

I don't think it makes someone a dog-hater, to not want to have animals inside a restaurant or grocery store.  Seems like pretty basic sanitation to me.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 23, 2025, 09:42:54 AM
I love my dog.

I don't think it makes someone a dog-hater, to not want to have animals inside a restaurant or grocery store.  Seems like pretty basic sanitation to me.

Especially if you're allergic to them - like me.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 23, 2025, 09:43:39 AM
I love my dog.

I don't think it makes someone a dog-hater, to not want to have animals inside a restaurant or grocery store.  Seems like pretty basic sanitation to me.

"Would you invite a hairy naked man into your house, one who doesn't wipe his ass, and let him sit on your couch?

That's a dog."


Dog hater.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 23, 2025, 09:45:44 AM
In a bar in the airport, some idiot had his dog sitting on the stool next to him.  I absolutely hate going to a restaurant with any kind of animal around.
Dogs make just about everything better, and I'm a grumpy old fart about people who don't like dogs.

You dog haters are now on my list of suspicious people. 
"Would you invite a hairy naked man into your house, one who doesn't wipe his ass, and let him sit on your couch?

That's a dog."


Dog hater. 

Your statement followed immediately, as above, and you did not quote that original statement, until just now.

Specificity and precision.

Jackwagons think they can be imprecise and vague, just because their team won the baseball championship.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 23, 2025, 09:46:08 AM
I would never allow a dog - or any animal- to sit on my couch or be on any other furniture.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 23, 2025, 09:46:13 AM
breweries seem to love dogs, especially in Colorado and Cali
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 23, 2025, 09:47:38 AM
breweries seem to love dogs, especially in Colorado and Cali
My buddy Chip at Live Oak hates having dogs around the brewery, but he likes making money, so he allows dogs in one section of the outdoor biergarten.  But there is also a dog-free section of the outdoor biergarten as well.  And none are allowed inside.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 23, 2025, 09:52:42 AM
My buddy Chip at Live Oak hates having dogs around the brewery, but he likes making money, so he allows dogs in one section of the outdoor biergarten.  But there is also a dog-free section of the outdoor biergarten as well.  And none are allowed inside.
Our local bar no longer allows dogs. People were getting bit.

Same goes for the farmer's markets. No dogs.

And, oh by the way, the dog would rather be home in the AC than walking around barefoot on hot pavement, in a fur coat.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: jgvol on June 23, 2025, 10:02:27 AM
I love my dog.

I don't think it makes someone a dog-hater, to not want to have animals inside a restaurant or grocery store.  Seems like pretty basic sanitation to me.


My house is a restaurant and a grocery store.  I am here....alive.  

J/K -- sorta.  I just happen to like dogs more than people.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: jgvol on June 23, 2025, 10:03:58 AM
I would never allow a dog - or any animal- to sit on my couch or be on any other furniture.

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Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 23, 2025, 10:16:24 AM
I just happen to like dogs more than people.
Me too. 

Granted, that's a low bar. 

But dogs are awesome. Thus I like dogs significantly more than people. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 23, 2025, 10:17:24 AM
You didn't marry a dog.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 23, 2025, 10:19:02 AM
My house is a restaurant and a grocery store.  I am here....alive. 

J/K -- sorta.  I just happen to like dogs more than people.
It's your house, you can choose to live however you like.

I've actually watched a dog stop and take a shit in the middle of a grocery store produce aisle.  The owner just sat there and watched it happen.

So, yeah... nope.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 23, 2025, 10:19:44 AM
I dunno... The first time, she was a real bitch. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: jgvol on June 23, 2025, 10:22:08 AM
It's your house, you can choose to live however you like.

I've actually watched a dog stop and take a shit in the middle of a grocery store produce aisle.  The owner just sat there and watched it happen.

So, yeah... nope.

What would the owner have done.  Put their thumb in the dogs asshole and ushered him outside?  

I get it, man.  Relax.  No dogs in the grocery....I'm good with it.  LOL

Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 23, 2025, 10:25:01 AM
What would the owner have done.  Put their thumb in the dogs asshole and ushered him outside? 

I get it, man.  Relax.  No dogs in the grocery....I'm good with it.  LOL


Ushered him outside, yes.  Obviously.  When my dog is squatting to take a dump, if I pull on the leash, she moves and follows me and holds it until I let her stop again.

And I'm plenty relaxed.  I'm making a statement on a message board.  Should I not do that?  What a weird call-out.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: jgvol on June 23, 2025, 10:43:47 AM
Ushered him outside, yes.  Obviously.  When my dog is squatting to take a dump, if I pull on the leash, she moves and follows me and holds it until I let her stop again.

And I'm plenty relaxed.  I'm making a statement on a message board.  Should I not do that?  What a weird call-out.

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Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 23, 2025, 10:50:01 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/K03IKPx.png)

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Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 23, 2025, 12:03:44 PM
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One of my favorite movies. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 23, 2025, 12:11:38 PM

One of my favorite movies. 
That wonderful movie was shot in Austin, Texas, by Mike Judge, a fine Austinite! :)
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 23, 2025, 12:22:31 PM
Yep, his stuff has always landed well with me, from Office Space, to Beavis and Butthead, to King of the Hill.  He gets me.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 23, 2025, 12:27:26 PM
I was never a big fan of Beavis and Butthead because it was the show all the stoners liked, and I've always had a pretty low opinion of stoners and stoner culture.  Still, it can't be denied that the show produced some iconic lines and some iconic moments.

On the other hand, King of the Hill is great.  It so perfectly captures suburban Texas culture in a bit of a satirical manner, without being ugly or mean-spirited.

And anyone who's ever worked in a cube farm, especially for a Tech company, has to appreciate Office Space.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 23, 2025, 12:30:47 PM
I got assigned to put out a weekly patent report when I was at work.  It was easy because I had three folks in India doing most of the work, I just reformatted the cover page and emailed it.  I called it "The Patent Summary Report".

Only one person ever commented on that, and I had over 100 recipients.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 23, 2025, 01:18:27 PM
And anyone who's ever worked in a cube farm, especially for a Tech company, has to appreciate Office Space.
Yep, we watched it frequently in college. I thought it was a great comedy.

Little did I know I was only a few years away from realizing it was a documentary
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 23, 2025, 01:23:08 PM
Yep, we watched it frequently in college. I thought it was a great comedy.

Little did I know I was only a few years away from realizing it was a documentary.
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Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 23, 2025, 05:11:34 PM
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one of my favorite movies
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 25, 2025, 09:15:04 AM
Dentist appt at 10 AM.  I don't like them.  Just routine.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 25, 2025, 09:24:30 AM
Dentist appt at 10 AM.  I don't like them.  Just routine.
Yep. I grew up with a fat-fingered pediatric dentist. Why? Why would you do that to kids with kid-sized mouths??

And to make matters worse, I apparently have a high tolerance for Novocain--meaning it doesn't work effectively at "standard" dose. 

So every time I was getting a cavity filled, and I'm white-knuckling it in the chair because I'm in searing pain, that bastard thought I was just being a baby and responding to the sound of the drill. No, you goddamned sadist, I'M IN PAIN because you didn't give me enough Novocain!

As an adult, I now have a dentist that understands this. If I need actual work done, they give me enough to make me not feel it. But there's long-term emotional scar tissue in there now...

So it makes me absolutely HATE going to the dentist, even for routine cleanings. I always make appointments as early in the morning as possible--ESPECIALLY if it's more than just routine cleaning. Because if I have it in the afternoon, I spend the entire day up until the appt in a combination of anxiety and seething anger. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 25, 2025, 09:26:34 AM
Yep. I grew up with a fat-fingered pediatric dentist. Why? Why would you do that to kids with kid-sized mouths??

And to make matters worse, I apparently have a high tolerance for Novocain--meaning it doesn't work effectively at "standard" dose.

So every time I was getting a cavity filled, and I'm white-knuckling it in the chair because I'm in searing pain, that bastard thought I was just being a baby and responding to the sound of the drill. No, you goddamned sadist, I'M IN PAIN because you didn't give me enough Novocain!

As an adult, I now have a dentist that understands this. If I need actual work done, they give me enough to make me not feel it. But there's long-term emotional scar tissue in there now...

So it makes me absolutely HATE going to the dentist, even for routine cleanings. I always make appointments as early in the morning as possible--ESPECIALLY if it's more than just routine cleaning. Because if I have it in the afternoon, I spend the entire day up until the appt in a combination of anxiety and seething anger.

Same here. I need like 4 times the amount of Novocain than most people.

And Xanax. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 25, 2025, 09:27:15 AM
cleanings are not pleasant for me but bearable 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 25, 2025, 09:55:41 AM
So, funny story that includes an oral surgeon, which is close enough to a dentist in my mind.  

In college I had to have my wisdom teeth removed.  The bottom ones were hidden beneath the gums, and were something called "sideways bony-impacted" which meant it was more of an ordeal than just grabbing the pliers and yanking them out of there.  In my pre-procedure appointment the guy gave me a prescription and instructions to take two percocets and three valiums about 30 minutes before arrival.  I never took any drugs even remotely like that so my system was totally new to metabolizing them.  Obviously someone had to drive me.

I lived about 30 minutes away, so I took the meds and me and my mom got on our way.  About halfway there I noticed I began to feel drowsy, but it was nothing I couldn't handle, I thought.  By the time I got there and mom let me out near the door before she parked, I could really feel the drowsiness as I tried to get out of the SUV and on my feet.  I walked in, went to the window and signed in, and then went and sat down.  After a minute or so the receptionist opened the little window thingy and called me back up to get papers to fill out.  I tried to get up out of the waiting room chair.....and failed.  It felt like a thousand pounds was weighing me down and my legs just couldn't do it.  With great--and I mean great--effort and willpower, I managed to get up and go get the papers.  I started filling them out and anxiously wondered how I was going to get up again, because I could feel it getting worse by the minute.  

Then I had to pee.  By that time mom was in the waiting room with me and she was able to help me up.  Standing once I was up wasn't as bad, but getting myself up was nearly impossible.  I turned in my paperwork and asked where the bathroom was.  They brought me out of the waiting room and showed me the bathroom door.  I walked in and prepared to do my business.

That was my last completely lucid memory.  

The next thing I remembered was becoming semi-conscious, and I could hear the oral surgeon's voice talking to somebody.  I was aware of jerking around inside my mouth, but I could tell everything was numb.  I either didn't open my eyes or I couldn't see.  It was just a brief moment of cognizance of my situation, and the last thing I remember thinking was "Oh, I guess they started.  Well, I can't feel anything, I might as well go back to......."

After that, the next thing I remember was waking up in my bed, my mom was trying to shove some pudding in my mouth and telling me I needed to eat something.  Groggily, I forced myself to wake up enough to ask her was it over, how did it go, and I guess I'm home already?  She laughed and told me "That was yesterday morning.  You slept the entire rest of the day, all night, and now it's noon the next day, and you need to wake up and eat."

I said that the last thing I remembered was going in the bathroom, and I didn't know what happened after that.  She laughed again and said "Well.  About that.  You never came out, and you locked the door.  They knocked and knocked on the door and called for you, but you didn't answer.  So they had to get the key and let themselves in.  They said you were slumped against the wall on the floor, hands on your knees, staring off into space.  It took three nurses to get you up off the floor and into the room where he did the procedure."  

I immediately wondered:  Did I get my pants back up or was I just sitting there on the floor flashing the jewels for all to see?  

I didn't ask, and to this day, I don't want to know.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Gigem on June 25, 2025, 11:23:02 AM
I was never a big fan of Beavis and Butthead because it was the show all the stoners liked, and I've always had a pretty low opinion of stoners and stoner culture.  Still, it can't be denied that the show produced some iconic lines and some iconic moments.

On the other hand, King of the Hill is great.  It so perfectly captures suburban Texas culture in a bit of a satirical manner, without being ugly or mean-spirited.

And anyone who's ever worked in a cube farm, especially for a Tech company, has to appreciate Office Space.
B&B came out when I was in 10th/11th grade (1993 IIRC) and it was a big hit with me and my peers (none of me or my friends were stoners).  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Gigem on June 25, 2025, 11:23:56 AM
Lately, a lot of this:
 Good morning, Team,
I hope this email finds you well.  


AI generated garbage.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 25, 2025, 11:24:14 AM
I did not state or suggest that only stoners watched it.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 25, 2025, 11:39:43 AM


So you were unimpressed with CfA?

I've never been impressed. And I hate waffle fries.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 25, 2025, 11:43:01 AM
I've never been impressed. And I hate waffle fries.

I'm assuming this was supposed to be posted to the "Happy" thread.  I see this website post to the wrong thread, occasionally.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 25, 2025, 11:45:12 AM
I copied it over to here, because Chick Fil A makes me grumpy, not happy.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 25, 2025, 11:47:21 AM
There are times "it" makes me happy to be grumpy.

We had not had CFA in over a year.  I had chicken "tenders", which were decent, as expected.  Somewhere along the way my AMEX went missing, I froze the account.

Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 25, 2025, 11:48:23 AM
Why would CfA make you grumpy?  Can't you just... not eat it? Does someone force you to eat it against your will?

Personally I like it, and I love waffle fries.

But I don't care if anyone else eats it or not, it doesn't affect my life at all.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 25, 2025, 11:56:15 AM
What is the major fast food chain that would make you most grumpy were you forced to dine there?

Maybe you're starving and it's the only thing open for miles ...

I'd probably go with Taco Bell though I have not dined there in over a decade, maybe it's .... OK?

Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: jgvol on June 25, 2025, 11:57:00 AM
CfA in my area is always crowded, very popular.

But, despite the crowds, and long drive thru lines, their service is usually impeccable.  It's quite impressive to me, for a highly trafficked fast food joint.  Mostly staffed by teens is even more impressive.  And their food is pretty good to boot.

They apparently have a very successful system in place.  I assume every other CfA is also a seamless operation.

I'm a fan, though I don't indulge very often.

Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: jgvol on June 25, 2025, 11:58:41 AM
What is the major fast food chain that would make you most grumpy were you forced to dine there?

Maybe you're starving and it's the only thing open for miles ...

I'd probably go with Taco Bell though I have not dined there in over a decade, maybe it's .... OK?



Every McDonald's in my neck of the woods is a complete CF, so I'd probably go with them.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 25, 2025, 12:08:37 PM
We dine at fast food so rarely it's tough to say, it's usually while driving somewhere, and a McDs in one location can be far superior to one somewhere else (thought they try for consistency).  The best thing about CFA is their service.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 25, 2025, 12:23:58 PM
Our kids like CfA, and we probably get it at least once per month.  It's by far our most common fast food purchase.

I suppose Taco Bell would make me grumpy, were I somehow forced to consume it at gunpoint.  Nothing on the menu tastes like the original analog to its fast-food version.  The taco meat does not taste like real taco meat, the beans do not taste like real refried beans, and even the cheese does not taste like real cheese, at least not to me.  It's all pseudo-food, faux food.  It's weird.

That said, I ate a boat-load of it in college, because there was one near the engineering buildings where I often spent late nights in the lab or studying in the library, and because it was super-cheap.  $0.59 menu meant I could get two tacos and two burritos for $2.36. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 25, 2025, 12:27:17 PM
As a freshman, I recall having breakfast fairly often at a Krystal which was across the street.  My culinary tastes were, um, undeveloped, but I presume it was "OK".  I took my wife to a Krystal once, we were traveling, and she asked me about it.

It would pretty near the bottom for me based on that one experience.

It's amazing to me how many KFCs I've seen in Asia, Copenhagen, Sweden, ...
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: jgvol on June 25, 2025, 12:28:41 PM
Our kids like CfA, and we probably get it at least once per month.  It's by far our most common fast food purchase.

I suppose Taco Bell would make me grumpy, were I somehow forced to consume it at gunpoint.  Nothing on the menu tastes like the original analog to its fast-food version.  The taco meat does not taste like real taco meat, the beans do not taste like real refried beans, and even the cheese does not taste like real cheese, at least not to me.  It's all pseudo-food, faux food.  It's weird.

That said, I ate a boat-load of it in college, because there was one near the engineering buildings where I often spent late nights in the lab or studying in the library, and because it was super-cheap.  $0.59 menu meant I could get two tacos and two burritos for $2.36.

It's drunk food.  Along with Krystal's.  And in that context -- I give both 5 stars.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 25, 2025, 12:29:49 PM
Krystal is like White Castle, right?  So gross.

Maybe I've changed my mind.  Being force-fed White Castle would make me REALLY grumpy.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: jgvol on June 25, 2025, 12:30:36 PM
As a freshman, I recall having breakfast fairly often at a Krystal which was across the street.  My culinary tastes were, um, undeveloped, but I presume it was "OK".  I took my wife to a Krystal once, we were traveling, and she asked me about it.

It would pretty near the bottom for me based on that one experience.

It's amazing to me how many KFCs I've seen in Asia, Copenhagen, Sweden, ...

That Krystal breakfast bowl with a biscuit at the bottom, then sausage, then eggs, cheese, and topped with gravy......

That's some good eating, son.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: jgvol on June 25, 2025, 12:33:25 PM
Krystal is like White Castle, right?  So gross.

Maybe I've changed my mind.  Being force-fed White Castle would make me REALLY grumpy.

Krystal is superior to White Castle, despite what the Yankees on this board will say.

Though as stated.....good 2:30 AM bender drive thru "grub".  A sack of Bacon Cheese Krystals, and a chili/cheese fry.  Hard to top.  (unless you hit the Waffle House instead)
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 25, 2025, 12:34:19 PM
I don't recall what Krystal offered for breakfast back then, it probably was ... simple.

My next two years I moved to a private dorm that had a cafeteria that had pretty good breakfasts.  I ordered the same thing every morning, so the ladies would see me arrive and start cooking.  By the time I had juice and coffee, my eggs were ready with grits and sausage.

A lot of the students didn't make it down for breakfast, even though it was included in the "rent".  That was a pretty nice dorm really, it was coed for one thing, and the regular dorms were not.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 25, 2025, 09:36:04 PM
Fast food makes me grumpy 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on June 25, 2025, 10:30:34 PM
Krystal is like White Castle, right?  So gross.

Maybe I've changed my mind.  Being force-fed White Castle would make me REALLY grumpy.


White Castle is the worst one that I've ever tried to eat. I've never had Krystal, but it's knock off White Castle. So it has to be worse. They don't even get the fries right. 



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Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Gigem on June 26, 2025, 06:33:55 AM
I did not state or suggest that only stoners watched it.
I didn’t say you did. But for my little slice of GenX it was very popular. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 26, 2025, 09:53:04 AM
What a strange reason anyway to not like something or ignore it.  I like or don't like stuff based on my proclivity toward it, not based on whether or not I like/dislike or agree/disagree with some other group that likes something.  

B&B came out when I was in about 8th grade or so.  If it was juvenile, it would make sense that it still had an appeal to me.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 26, 2025, 11:01:14 AM
I'm in the middle of a round of medical tests and it's wearing thin.  Both taking time off of work and just the hassle of it all.  The older I get, the more like my dad I get.....I don't like going to the doctor, if something's going on, I don't want to know and I don't think "they" can fix it most of the time anyway.  Whatever happens, I'm probably fine, and if I'm not, oh well.  Unfortunately I'm not willing to put up with the clash with Mrs. DeT that would entail.  

While testing for something else unrelated, a radiologist recommended another imaging to get more info on something he thought he maybe saw.  After an ultrasound more info was confirmed and a final CT was recommended and a referral back to urology, where he'll take the CT results and decide what to do.  I have a mass on my right kidney, which is the concern.  I also have a bunch of nodules on my thyroid, so now I have to go to endocrinology too.  

My wife says the possible scenarios at this time for the kidney are 1) it's cancer--it has to come out (surgery), 2) it's benign, but vascular--it has to come out (surgery), 3) it's benign and basically just a bunch of fat tissue or something that might not hurt anything--it doesn't have to come out, or at least I have the reasonable option to leave it alone.  She says re: the thyroid, it's probably nothing, but Endo needs to biopsy it anyway to be sure it's not cancer, in which case they'll just probably leave it alone and monitor for changes.  

I don't hurt, my kidney function is great, my thyroid function is great, I would rather ignore it all until something changes, and as I said, I'm tired of testing and dr. appointments.  But, my doc recommends against doing nothing, and as mentioned, my wife is kinda up my arse about this.  Plus my mom is always wanting updates (I didn't tell her anything, the wife did that) and doesn't listen when I tell her it's probably nothing, and wants to know when she can tell dad and my sister, etc.  I'm like "Um....whenever there's something to actually tell.  There's just a big ball of nothing at the moment, and it's likely to stay nothing.  There's no indications so far any of this is anything serious."  But at any rate, I don't want them worried, I don't want them fussing over me, I don't want them calling me trying to talk about it.  Lolz, ok, well, my dad will never call to "talk about it," or talk about much of anything, but still.  

AND, I just had an old man surgery just three months ago, by which I mean I had to have a procedure done that is typically something only more elderly men have to deal with.  That was a bunch of appointments, nearly a week off work, and it just puts me way out of the mood for any of this.  

Yes, I'm grumpy about it.  The constant appointments and the fussing by the wife/mom.  Thus, I'm venting here.  God forbid I ever actually get sick because I'm using all my accumulated sick time on these damn appointments.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Gigem on June 26, 2025, 11:23:17 AM
I'm in the middle of a round of medical tests and it's wearing thin.  Both taking time off of work and just the hassle of it all.  The older I get, the more like my dad I get.....I don't like going to the doctor, if something's going on, I don't want to know and I don't think "they" can fix it most of the time anyway.  Whatever happens, I'm probably fine, and if I'm not, oh well.  Unfortunately I'm not willing to put up with the clash with Mrs. DeT that would entail. 

While testing for something else unrelated, a radiologist recommended another imaging to get more info on something he thought he maybe saw.  After an ultrasound more info was confirmed and a final CT was recommended and a referral back to urology, where he'll take the CT results and decide what to do.  I have a mass on my right kidney, which is the concern.  I also have a bunch of nodules on my thyroid, so now I have to go to endocrinology too. 

My wife says the possible scenarios at this time for the kidney are 1) it's cancer--it has to come out (surgery), 2) it's benign, but vascular--it has to come out (surgery), 3) it's benign and basically just a bunch of fat tissue or something that might not hurt anything--it doesn't have to come out, or at least I have the reasonable option to leave it alone.  She says re: the thyroid, it's probably nothing, but Endo needs to biopsy it anyway to be sure it's not cancer, in which case they'll just probably leave it alone and monitor for changes. 

I don't hurt, my kidney function is great, my thyroid function is great, I would rather ignore it all until something changes, and as I said, I'm tired of testing and dr. appointments.  But, my doc recommends against doing nothing, and as mentioned, my wife is kinda up my arse about this.  Plus my mom is always wanting updates (I didn't tell her anything, the wife did that) and doesn't listen when I tell her it's probably nothing, and wants to know when she can tell dad and my sister, etc.  I'm like "Um....whenever there's something to actually tell.  There's just a big ball of nothing at the moment, and it's likely to stay nothing.  There's no indications so far any of this is anything serious."  But at any rate, I don't want them worried, I don't want them fussing over me, I don't want them calling me trying to talk about it.  Lolz, ok, well, my dad will never call to "talk about it," or talk about much of anything, but still. 

AND, I just had an old man surgery just three months ago, by which I mean I had to have a procedure done that is typically something only more elderly men have to deal with.  That was a bunch of appointments, nearly a week off work, and it just puts me way out of the mood for any of this. 

Yes, I'm grumpy about it.  The constant appointments and the fussing by the wife/mom.  Thus, I'm venting here.  God forbid I ever actually get sick because I'm using all my accumulated sick time on these damn appointments. 
Welp, get better bud !  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 26, 2025, 11:25:01 AM
I don't hurt, my kidney function is great, my thyroid function is great, I would rather ignore it all until something changes, and as I said, I'm tired of testing and dr. appointments.  But, my doc recommends against doing nothing, and as mentioned, my wife is kinda up my arse about this.
Yeah, I know you don't want to hear it, but the problem with anything that "might" be cancer is that by the time you start feeling like something is wrong, it's typically a lot harder to deal with. 

Plus my mom is always wanting updates (I didn't tell her anything, the wife did that) and doesn't listen when I tell her it's probably nothing, and wants to know when she can tell dad and my sister, etc.  I'm like "Um....whenever there's something to actually tell.  There's just a big ball of nothing at the moment, and it's likely to stay nothing.  There's no indications so far any of this is anything serious."  But at any rate, I don't want them worried, I don't want them fussing over me, I don't want them calling me trying to talk about it.
THIS I understand lol... I don't need to talk to people to deal with my stuff, and so I absolutely HATE when people are brought into my business and then they want to be constantly informed. 

Of course, I also then berate my parents when they'll have something happen like my mom going into the hospital and they don't tell ANY of us that it's going on until she's out. My wife is on my case because I'm going to start up with new primary care doc and she wants me to find out what kind of cancer my dad had--that I didn't know about until years after the fact, and only heard about from thirdhand from my sister. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 26, 2025, 11:32:32 AM
What a strange reason anyway to not like something or ignore it.  I like or don't like stuff based on my proclivity toward it, not based on whether or not I like/dislike or agree/disagree with some other group that likes something. 

B&B came out when I was in about 8th grade or so.  If it was juvenile, it would make sense that it still had an appeal to me. 
Let me be clear-- I think it's stupid and juvenile, which is standard for typical stoner humor.  I don't dislike it solely because it appeals to stoners, other than stupid and juvenile stuff tends to appeal to stoners, and I don't like that kind of humor.

I also don't like the Cheech and Chong movies, because they are also stupid and juvenile.

Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 26, 2025, 11:34:33 AM
Yeah, I know you don't want to hear it, but the problem with anything that "might" be cancer is that by the time you start feeling like something is wrong, it's typically a lot harder to deal with. 

Yeah, yeah.....  Just let me complain like a grumpy old man, will ya?  :)
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Gigem on June 26, 2025, 11:36:31 AM
Let me be clear-- I think it's stupid and juvenile, which is standard for typical stoner humor.  I don't dislike it solely because it appeals to stoners, other than stupid and juvenile stuff tends to appeal to stoners, and I don't like that kind of humor.

I also don't like the Cheech and Chong movies, because they are also stupid and juvenile.
I have to admit, if I wasn't in that narrow window of older teenager/early 20's I probably wouldn't have liked it either.  As I age, I re-watch some of the old stuff, and some of the new stuff and I pick up on subtle things that I may have missed as a 15/16 year old.  The writing on some episodes is incredibly good.   A lot of the really good stuff from B&B is pretty directly exported to KoTH, including Hank Hill being almost a carbon copy of Mr. Anderson.  The bit about the hippy high school teacher and his dorky ways is pretty funny as well.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 26, 2025, 11:38:15 AM
I have to admit, if I wasn't in that narrow window of older teenager/early 20's I probably wouldn't have liked it either.  As I age, I re-watch some of the old stuff, and some of the new stuff and I pick up on subtle things that I may have missed as a 15/16 year old.  The writing on some episodes is incredibly good.  A lot of the really good stuff from B&B is pretty directly exported to KoTH, including Hank Hill being almost a carbon copy of Mr. Anderson.  The bit about the hippy high school teacher and his dorky ways is pretty funny as well. 
Yeah I really like KotH, possibly because it distills a lot of the good stuff, and omits a lot of the juvenile and stupid stuff, from B&B.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: jgvol on June 26, 2025, 11:43:21 AM
B&B is one of the dumbest, low IQ, idiotic shows ever produced.  And why it was on MTV, no doubt.

I was drinking and stoning back then, but still wasn't that low brow.

Also, it was hugely popular (a fad), everyone quoted it non-stop, to the point of making me sick.  I generally zig, when everyone else is zagging, so there is that.

I am in the correct thread, right?
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 26, 2025, 11:46:31 AM
Let me be clear-- I think it's stupid and juvenile, which is standard for typical stoner humor.  I don't dislike it solely because it appeals to stoners, other than stupid and juvenile stuff tends to appeal to stoners, and I don't like that kind of humor.

I also don't like the Cheech and Chong movies, because they are also stupid and juvenile.

I figured you probably had other reasons such as these for not liking it.  Your post just didn't read that way, so I wasn't sure.  

For me, there's a distinction between stupid and juvenile stoner mentality, and something that makes fun of stupid and juvenile stoner mentality via satire.  I considered Beavis and Butthead the latter, but obviously one's mileage can vary.  It clearly made use of stupid and juvenile humor, so if one does not make a distinction, I can see that.  I thought it was done in service to mocking kids like that, so it struck a different chord for me.  

I actually never saw a whole Cheech and Chong movie, so I can't comment on those.  

It's kinda like Breaking Bad, which we previously discussed in the movies/tv thread.  My brother-in-law used to work at a drug rehab center in DFW and he says all the guys there just loved Walter White and viewed him as some sort of hero.  I thought it was obvious the show was trying to show how little there was redeemable about the guy, and ultimately how those life choices lead to terrible things.  But the show did indeed present him as some law-breaking DGAF guy, and those guys apparently saw the same show and thought it was presenting something you're supposed to endorse or look up to.  I thought it was presenting something you're supposed to despise.  Either way, it definitely made use of the aspiring drug-kingpin character and so it's interesting to note how different people viewed it.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 26, 2025, 12:08:48 PM
Yeah I understood what Breaking Bad was trying to do, I just had no interest in watching them do it.

Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Riffraft on June 26, 2025, 12:21:23 PM
Personally I am not sure what is wrong with most of y'all's taste buds.  I love downing a sack of white castles.  I don't get to do it too often because their isn't one near me, but when one of my football games takes me near I have been know to stop on the way home. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 26, 2025, 12:24:18 PM
Personally I am not sure what is wrong with most of y'all's taste buds.  I love downing a sack of white castles.  I don't get to do it too often because their isn't one near me, but when one of my football games takes me near I have been know to stop on the way home.
I think it's the texture, which is slightly more awful than the taste, of them.  They're really disgusting.

They make McDonald's burgers taste like a gourmet meal by comparison.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 26, 2025, 12:26:22 PM
Yeah I really like KotH, possibly because it distills a lot of the good stuff, and omits a lot of the juvenile and stupid stuff, from B&B.

Plus, KotH has Boomhauer.

And also, to this day, anytime I hear the word "butane" I quote Bobby Hill, "My daddy says butane is a bastard gas," whether or not people around me get the joke or not.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: jgvol on June 26, 2025, 12:40:16 PM
A lot of people don't care for the steamed bun on the White Castle/Krystal.

It gets a little damp/wettish.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 26, 2025, 12:41:44 PM
Yup
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Gigem on June 26, 2025, 01:10:11 PM
Yeah I really like KotH, possibly because it distills a lot of the good stuff, and omits a lot of the juvenile and stupid stuff, from B&B.
I think even Mike Judd said back in the day that he never intended B&B to go on very long, maybe 1-2 seasons until it got as big as it did.  I think it ended up going 5 seasons originally and he took it off the air and went straight into KoTH.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Gigem on June 26, 2025, 01:11:21 PM
Plus, KotH has Boomhauer.

And also, to this day, anytime I hear the word "butane" I quote Bobby Hill, "My daddy says butane is a bastard gas," whether or not people around me get the joke or not. 
Do you do it in your best HH accent?  

"Bobby, if you weren't my son, I'd hug you".  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 26, 2025, 01:17:49 PM
I'm headed to Cincy end of August, hope to have a chance at some real chili while I'm there.   
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 26, 2025, 01:19:22 PM
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Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on June 26, 2025, 02:28:29 PM
"20 rat burgers, hold the tails"
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 26, 2025, 05:11:17 PM
Do you do it in your best HH accent? 

"Bobby, if you weren't my son, I'd hug you". 

I do it in my best Bobby accent. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 26, 2025, 06:07:44 PM
I laughed at the first couple Cheech & Chong movies

never saw Bevis
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 27, 2025, 04:59:50 AM
I'm in the middle of a round of medical tests and it's wearing thin.  Both taking time off of work and just the hassle of it all.  The older I get, the more like my dad I get.....I don't like going to the doctor, if something's going on, I don't want to know and I don't think "they" can fix it most of the time anyway.  Whatever happens, I'm probably fine, and if I'm not, oh well.  Unfortunately I'm not willing to put up with the clash with Mrs. DeT that would entail. 

While testing for something else unrelated, a radiologist recommended another imaging to get more info on something he thought he maybe saw.  After an ultrasound more info was confirmed and a final CT was recommended and a referral back to urology, where he'll take the CT results and decide what to do.  I have a mass on my right kidney, which is the concern.  I also have a bunch of nodules on my thyroid, so now I have to go to endocrinology too. 

My wife says the possible scenarios at this time for the kidney are 1) it's cancer--it has to come out (surgery), 2) it's benign, but vascular--it has to come out (surgery), 3) it's benign and basically just a bunch of fat tissue or something that might not hurt anything--it doesn't have to come out, or at least I have the reasonable option to leave it alone.  She says re: the thyroid, it's probably nothing, but Endo needs to biopsy it anyway to be sure it's not cancer, in which case they'll just probably leave it alone and monitor for changes. 

I don't hurt, my kidney function is great, my thyroid function is great, I would rather ignore it all until something changes, and as I said, I'm tired of testing and dr. appointments.  But, my doc recommends against doing nothing, and as mentioned, my wife is kinda up my arse about this.  Plus my mom is always wanting updates (I didn't tell her anything, the wife did that) and doesn't listen when I tell her it's probably nothing, and wants to know when she can tell dad and my sister, etc.  I'm like "Um....whenever there's something to actually tell.  There's just a big ball of nothing at the moment, and it's likely to stay nothing.  There's no indications so far any of this is anything serious."  But at any rate, I don't want them worried, I don't want them fussing over me, I don't want them calling me trying to talk about it.  Lolz, ok, well, my dad will never call to "talk about it," or talk about much of anything, but still. 

AND, I just had an old man surgery just three months ago, by which I mean I had to have a procedure done that is typically something only more elderly men have to deal with.  That was a bunch of appointments, nearly a week off work, and it just puts me way out of the mood for any of this. 

Yes, I'm grumpy about it.  The constant appointments and the fussing by the wife/mom.  Thus, I'm venting here.  God forbid I ever actually get sick because I'm using all my accumulated sick time on these damn appointments. 
With no wife to nag me into it, I'm avoiding all this.  I know that if I go in and get a thorough exam, 3-4 things will be wrong/concerning, and I'll get to have a host of appointments and "maybes" and "probably nothings."  Or I have like 3 different types of cancer.  That's where I feel like most of us end up, anyway.

To have had only a high ankle sprain, an ear infection, and plantar faciitis in one foot is pretty good health for the last 25 years.  
But I also still eat like a college student and don't exercise.  So while my visual body has been fine, my internals are probably a mess.

Get all you've had looked at looked at closer.  Might as well, you've dipped your toe in.  Shit, it's 2025, and they can't do better than "there's a mass on your kidney?"  Seems to me whatever found that is a waste of time and they should just start with whatever's next, for any kind of precision.

Anyway, I hope all is well.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 27, 2025, 05:06:01 AM
Krystal is superior to White Castle, despite what the Yankees on this board will say.
It's the same.  
It's 80% bread.
There is no need to romanticize fast food.
Not with posts here, not with a movie.

That being said, I was wanting something I hadn't had in a long time, and was going to go to White Castle tonight....but the only locations are all on the edges of the Phoenix area.  I'm in the middle bit.  So I went somewhere else.

Both Krystal and WC sell you 15% cheaper burgers so they can provide you with 20% less meat.  That's really all it is.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 27, 2025, 06:49:54 AM
My neighbor tells me he is basically recovered from his prostate treatment (proton therapy).  He still has to have his PSA monitored, but he is feeling normal now.

I seem to be doing OK.  I'm not drinking a bottle of wine plus every night at least.  I swim most days, a little, and run or throw or go to the gym nearly every day.  I still have that belly fat accumulated over decades.

I started taking a multivitamin though I probably don't need it.

The heat thing outside is ebbing some, it was hotter in the NE than here though.  My step daughter was complaining to her mom about how hot it is in Marseille where it gets tough because they don't have AC generally speaking.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 27, 2025, 07:12:10 AM
my doc suggested a multivitamin would be a good thing
I took one for a year or so.  I should probably get another bottle - wouldn't hurt me
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 27, 2025, 08:10:33 AM
Cardiologist appointment at 11AM. Film at 11PM.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Riffraft on June 27, 2025, 10:57:12 AM
I have an annual physical with full work up.  Colonoscopy every 5 years (due this year). Take a multivitamin, 500 IU of Vitamin E and 1000mg of vitamin C every day.  I have a few chronic things, Gout (take a pill to help prevent flareups), Acid Reflex (take prescription priloec) and glaucoma (3 different eye drops at various time during the day, Lost almost no vision so far because it was caught very early).  But everything seems to be good every year, low PSA, etc.  But I have known too many people who don't get checkups and find out they are very ill or dying when if they had just had regular checkups it could have been caught before it became terminal.  Regular physicals aren't perfect but for a once a year hour or two quite worth it. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 27, 2025, 11:16:26 AM
As I mentioned once, I haven't had a checkup since before COVID. My company had sponsored an on-site health clinic which made it really convenient to schedule, since all I had to do was walk up two flights of stairs from my office. I really liked the doctor there; he was very thorough and would take the time to really sit with you--my annual checkup appts were typically a full hour. They even offered services like PT which was useful after I sprained my wrist in late 2015... But then COVID showed up, nobody was going to the office, and so it didn't make sense to continue with the clinic.

But I finally have the names of two doctors recommended, that are in network, so I'm going to call one of them today and try to establish as my new primary care doctor and get my checkup scheduled. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 27, 2025, 11:20:14 AM
I went for many years with no checkup, no doctor visit for me at all.  I had a run in with our insurance, imagine that, with one of my kids' treatments.  Nobody at the insurance could explain why something wasn't covered when clearly it was listed to be covered.

So, in a bit of a pique I quit going.  I took my kids as needed, and didn't have any more bad run ins.  My wife can be a bit of a nag about stuff like this, imagine that, so when we moved here I found a pretty good MD I go to once a year.  Mostly I want to look at my blood numbers.  I'm reading oral health may be important for more than your teeth also.

I wish I could lose weight better than I am, it seems clingy.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 27, 2025, 12:20:39 PM
Get all you've had looked at looked at closer.  Might as well, you've dipped your toe in.  Shit, it's 2025, and they can't do better than "there's a mass on your kidney?"  Seems to me whatever found that is a waste of time and they should just start with whatever's next, for any kind of precision.

Anyway, I hope all is well.

Thanks.

It's an insurance thing, and I can't tell if it makes sense to me because it actually makes sense or because I used to go through all this for patients when I worked at a clinic.  I guess my wife would be much better equipped to answer the first part.  The insurance companies won't approve certain tests without certain conditions or until other tests have been done first.  What happened in this case was a CT of my chest caught just enough of down where my kidney is that the radiologist thought there might be something there to look closer at, but the CT was of the wrong area to really know for sure.  When that happens, a lot of times you have to do an ultrasound first, insurance won't just jump straight to paying for another CT.  If an ultrasound confirms a problem, a CT may be recommended to gather more information.

Given the vast differences in costs between various types of imaging tests, I guess I get it.  For example, we'd catch breast cancer like gangbusters and basically never miss if women had MRI's.  But, the reality is, mammograms are actually pretty good (just not as good as MRIs) and they're so much cheaper, and insurance won't pay for MRIs when mammograms are a thing.  

For my ethics presentation as part of my capstone, I did a presentation on AI in radiology.  In researching it I learned that soon AI could reduce time (and therefore cost) on MRIs to the point where they could become more financially feasible for more circumstances.  BUT....I'm not holding my breath, where business, profit, and especially medical guidelines are concerned, which are like trying to push on a glacier to make it move faster.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 27, 2025, 01:12:01 PM
Of course grumpy old man time... So I haven't been to the doc in 6 years. 

My wife has been telling me for years now that I should go. But... She works in a medical office, and she has ideas on who I should or shouldn't go to since my previous PCP is no longer available. I got a recommendation from a retired coworker, and that doctor isn't accepting new patients. So I started doing my own research and sent my wife some of the names--this might have been as long as a year ago, and all I got back was "No" lol... So I told her--"okay, you pick". 

Which she finally did--she gave me three names about a week and a half ago, and I just started looking at it yesterday. After she'd chided me a few days ago about having done nothing with the names. 

So I narrow it down and pick one, telling her I'm going to call today about establishing as a new patient. And what I get back from my anxious wife is...

"Why are you on this so much all of a sudden? Are you ok?"

Ummm... :smiley_confused1:
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 27, 2025, 01:41:19 PM
Yup.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 27, 2025, 02:47:02 PM
...this might have been as long as a year ago...

Which she finally did--she gave me three names about a week and a half ago, and I just started looking at it yesterday. After she'd chided me a few days ago about having done nothing with the names. 

This checks out.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 27, 2025, 02:54:08 PM
Of course, she gave me three names in order of her preference. I eliminated #2 because he didn't show up on my insurance website as in network--and his head shot made him look like a complete meathead. 

Called #1--he's not accepting new patients. GRR...

But got set up with #3, so I'll get to go in mid-August, get my check-up, and have him tell me that everything except my liver is in good working order. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 27, 2025, 03:19:06 PM
Milk Thistle is a good friend for the liver.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: jgvol on June 27, 2025, 03:42:26 PM
Milk Thistle is a good friend for the liver.

So is Knob Creek.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 27, 2025, 04:33:21 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/XsiLyqM.png)
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on June 27, 2025, 04:34:04 PM
My go to.  Nothing fancy but smooth and consistent.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on June 27, 2025, 04:41:54 PM
Our new next door neighbors came over the other night when I hosted a party at the house and I served BBQ brisket and ribs.  They're really nice, younger couple with a 4-year-old daughter, and they've brought us over wine on a couple of occasions.  But after they got here and we were drinking some bourbon, the husband said he had a bottle of whiskey he wanted to bring over.  So he runs back home for a second, then comes back into our backyard, and he's carrying this:

(https://i.imgur.com/2hbn5eH.png)

I've had some Japanese whiskeys before and liked them, but this one was really, REALLY good. It was about 3/4 full when he brought it over but the 8 adults that were present, went through that thing in less than an hour.  Later after they left, my i s c & a aggie wife looked it up, and discovered it was something like a $180 bottle.  And man it tastes like it.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: ELA on June 27, 2025, 04:56:15 PM
My liver enzymes were slightly elevated at my 2021 physical.  My PCP said everyone drank more than they should during COVID, and largely ignored it.

They were even higher in 2022, but still not concerning.

Then in 2023, my blood pressure and cholesterol had spiked, but I had also gained like 40 lbs.  Nothing about my lifestyle had changed, but they put me on a statin.  Solved the blood pressure, but it spiked my liver enzymes off the chart.  I've had liver issues ever since, and just got a biopsy last week.  I don't like to bother my parents with medical things, but felt like I should let her know about that.  She then brought up that when my dad switched jobs in 1987 and had blood tests, they told him he had the liver of a lifelong alcoholic at age 32.  But he didn't drink at all, because his dad drank himself to death.  So at that point they just wrote it off, because every liver issue was written off as alcoholism, or the liver wasn't checked when you died from heart diesease.

Well, once I got diagnosed, talked to my siblings, they got checked, and 3/4 of us have faulty livers.  And its getting tested more regularly because lots of unhealthy habits test it.  In previous generations is was just alcohol, because we didn't eat the shit we do now.  They also set me up with a dietician that makes easy changes.  We eat more fried food in general, but we also eat out more, and the cheap side is chips or fries.  Paying the extra $1 for broccoli or a baked potato is an easy change.  But men are drinking less than they did in previous generations, but we are seeing MORE liver issues.

Funny thing was that the weight gain was liver related, and they treated it like a symptom, not a cause
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 27, 2025, 05:03:15 PM
Jeez. That's rough ELA.

I take milk thistle and this stuff. Liver numbers are always good.

(https://i.imgur.com/h86lc8d.png)
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 27, 2025, 05:15:45 PM
Sorry to hear @ELA (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=55) -- at least I know if I have liver problems they're self-induced...

But that does bring up one thing. I think I have elevated blood pressure. Which is odd b/c I work out a lot and generally eat well. Although by BMI I'm technically obese, I'm obese in the same way that an NFL player is obese--I have abnormally high muscle mass.

I'm not sure, though, if my BP is high enough to warrant doing something about it. It might just be high enough that it's something we watch rather than address... But I also have an essential tremor. A beta blocker is usually used for BP. And one of the side effects of a beta blocker is that it keeps a tremor in check. And apparently also improves your golf game... Which I need a lot of improvement there.

Soooo... We'll see.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on June 27, 2025, 05:26:54 PM
Why are you guys posting booze on here? That's for the happy thread.
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Post by: MrNubbz on June 27, 2025, 05:51:00 PM
  But men are drinking less than they did in previous generations, but we are seeing MORE liver issues.

Funny thing was that the weight gain was liver related, and they treated it like a symptom, not a cause
Evidently a lot of that has to do with the Big Food Empire putting manufactured everything instead of natural means and it's went unchecked for quite some time. One of the holistic Drs online suggest getting unpasturized,organic apple cider vinegar and sauerkraut/Kimchi for digestive tract health.I've been trying the ACV 4oz in morning and night and feel pretty good.I mix it with spring water but make sure you rinse your mouth good after because of the acid effect on tooth enamel if you choose to try it . I'll be getting a wellness check and blood test with in a month. Diet change is a biggy along with keep on moving
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on June 27, 2025, 09:29:15 PM
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Post by: Gigem on June 28, 2025, 11:34:58 PM
https://twitter.com/eatinerni/status/1939043192130634042?s=46&t=EHozF964Pc_xZmTZKPCcEA
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Post by: FearlessF on June 29, 2025, 05:35:23 AM
Nothing grumpy about sauerkraut/Kimchi or skyline chili coney
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Post by: Cincydawg on June 30, 2025, 08:20:00 AM
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Post by: bayareabadger on June 30, 2025, 08:45:50 AM
I went to the gym three days in a row and I’m feeling creaky as hell.
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Post by: MikeDeTiger on June 30, 2025, 12:34:27 PM
I've had some Japanese whiskeys before and liked them, but this one was really, REALLY good. It was about 3/4 full when he brought it over but the 8 adults that were present, went through that thing in less than an hour.  Later after they left, my i s c & a aggie wife looked it up, and discovered it was something like a $180 bottle.  And man it tastes like it.

Sounds like this goes in the What Made You Happy thread.

Also.....those neighbors are trying way too hard to get you to like them.  I'm suspicious.  
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Post by: Cincydawg on June 30, 2025, 12:45:52 PM
I went to the gym three days in a row and I’m feeling creaky as hell.
I was out running earlier and recallling how "back in the day" I could get in pretty good shape in a week.  I could go from sedentary to running pretty well in a few days, it was easy.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on June 30, 2025, 02:40:13 PM
I have a terrible headache.
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Post by: MikeDeTiger on July 01, 2025, 12:31:55 PM
That stupid CT was with both oral and IV contrast, for some reason.  I thought it would just be IV.  That means it took considerably longer, and I had to down 30+ oz of barium and my mouth tastes like iodine for the next few hours (that's the IV contrast, not the oral).    

Not the most pleasant stuff to drink.  I told a co-worker a while ago that if I suddenly left, I'm not being rude or uninterested in what she's saying (tho I am), it's that I'm running for a toilet or a sink to yak.  
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 08, 2025, 11:39:13 AM
We have a place for building residents to post information, requests, etc.  Some DUDE just posted he wanted a recommendation for a "licensed handyman" to replace  his fridge filter and furnace filter.

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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 08, 2025, 11:46:51 AM
I could see wanting help replacing a fridge or a furnace...
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 08, 2025, 11:49:52 AM
I'd want more than help.  I have a "furnace guy" fortunately who installed our latest heat pump.  I couldn't have done it.

I can handle swapping out filters.
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Post by: MikeDeTiger on July 08, 2025, 12:51:07 PM
Hmm.

If that's the trajectory we're headed down, I might be able to make it as a handyman. 
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Post by: MikeDeTiger on July 08, 2025, 01:26:40 PM
I'm trying to picture somebody here posting in the DIY thread "changed a 'fridge filter this weekend." 

I'd like to think Drew would auto-ban him.  
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Post by: utee94 on July 08, 2025, 01:29:23 PM
My wife changes the fridge and A/C filters.
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Post by: Gigem on July 08, 2025, 01:42:57 PM
Some of the fridge filters I have done in the past were literally behind the fridge and you had to move it.  I can see somebody who is elderly not being able to get back there and get it apart.  Mine you need tools to disconnect the lines.  

For the HVAC filter there are some that are built into the unit that are in the attic or other hard to reach place.  Same issue with elderly etc.  

There may also be a warranty issue involved where they are needing to get the work done by somebody licensed to preserve for warranty purposes.  

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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 08, 2025, 01:53:17 PM
My wife changes the fridge and A/C filters.
They have filters?
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Post by: utee94 on July 08, 2025, 02:14:48 PM
They have filters?
Yup, water filter for water and ice on the fridge, and return air filters on the return air ducts on the A/C units.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 08, 2025, 02:37:27 PM
I forgot to add a smiley, and your sarcasm meter is broken.
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Post by: utee94 on July 08, 2025, 02:57:46 PM
I forgot to add a smiley, and your sarcasm meter is broken.
I thought you were just highlighting your wealth and how you are above dealing with such things, unlike us dirty unwashed huddled masses...
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MikeDeTiger on July 08, 2025, 03:13:58 PM
This thread creates pressure to have an unpleasant experience to justify a grumpy frame of mind.  

I find that discriminatory.  

What if I just have a general disposition of minor grumpiness today for no apparent reason?  In fact, it could be said that not having a particular reason is precisely what makes one an excellent grump (and I'm old enough, I guess, ergo, a grumpy old man).  
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Post by: MrNubbz on July 08, 2025, 03:46:23 PM
my doc suggested a multivitamin would be a good thing
I took one for a year or so.  I should probably get another bottle - wouldn't hurt me
Nah put the money into used driving range balls - hot tip for the week
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Post by: FearlessF on July 08, 2025, 05:17:22 PM
I don't spend time at the driving range - the bev cart doesn't drive over there
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Post by: FearlessF on July 08, 2025, 05:24:22 PM
Yup, water filter for water and ice on the fridge, and return air filters on the return air ducts on the A/C units.
this implies you have a fancy fridge with ice/water on the door
up in the great white north the same return air duct goes into the furnace/AC

my furnace filter is a monster - 20x25x5 - costs a stoopid amount of money - and with the workmanship of the tinwork/sheet metal work under the furnace is a bitch to change.

makes me damned grumpy every 6 months!!!!
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 08, 2025, 07:09:51 PM
My wife wants the water and air filters in the fridge changed any time the light lights.  I don't think they do much of anything myself, especially the air filter.  The standard water filter is nearly $50 but I did find an off brand that is about $20.  It's easy to change, the air filter requires a minor contortion, or emptying half the fridge.

Our HVACs were behind a rather heavy "door" that I had to wrestle away from the mountings to change the air filters.  We had a guy doing some work and I asked him to mount the door on hinges, problem solved.  Now they just open easy as Pi.  The guy was depopcorning our lower level offices, which still had the old ceilings.  We weren't around for that fortunately.  They did clean up pretty much.
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Post by: MikeDeTiger on July 09, 2025, 09:46:18 AM
Both the air and water filter are pretty easily accessible in our fridge.  I think it's a Samsung.  I don't know the recommended amount of time to change them, but it claims to be "smart" and it tells us when to change them.  It's only claimed it needed its filters changed once in owning it about 3 years now.  I bought a 3-pack of each, so two of each are just sitting in the box collecting dust.  Don't know when I'll ever use them.

The two biggest problems we have with the fridge are: 

1) it's design makes it not-ideal for the space it sits in.  I tried to argue my wife out of that model for that very reason, but guess who was adamant and who decided to let it go.  Consequently the situation is exactly what I said it would be and the left door won't open correctly and it annoys the hell out of me.  Amazingly, she doesn't care at all.  She wanted that model and it doesn't seem to phase her that one door is half useless.  

2) the pest control guys had to install a bath-trap in the wall by the fridge because the other side of that wall is where the guest bath is.  Every time they come to spray I have to move the fridge completely out so they can get to it and then put it back in.  I don't think it would be so bad if the kitchen floor were flat, but the tile is textured, so items with rollers such as the fridge don't just go where you want them to without a lot more force and finagling.  
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 09, 2025, 09:48:52 AM
Both the air and water filter are pretty easily accessible in our fridge.  I think it's a Samsung.  I don't know the recommended amount of time to change them, but it claims to be "smart" and it tells us when to change them.  It's only claimed it needed its filters changed once in owning it about 3 years now.  I bought a 3-pack of each, so two of each are just sitting in the box collecting dust.  Don't know when I'll ever use them.

The two biggest problems we have with the fridge are:

1) it's design makes it not-ideal for the space it sits in.  I tried to argue my wife out of that model for that very reason, but guess who was adamant and who decided to let it go.  Consequently the situation is exactly what I said it would be and the left door won't open correctly and it annoys the hell out of me.  Amazingly, she doesn't care at all.  She wanted that model and it doesn't seem to phase her that one door is half useless. 

2) the pest control guys had to install a bath-trap in the wall by the fridge because the other side of that wall is where the guest bath is.  Every time they come to spray I have to move the fridge completely out so they can get to it and then put it back in.  I don't think it would be so bad if the kitchen floor were flat, but the tile is textured, so items with rollers such as the fridge don't just go where you want them to without a lot more force and finagling. 
We have a Samsung with "French" doors too. Filter is a piece of cake.
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Post by: jgvol on July 09, 2025, 10:51:29 AM
I had no idea refrigerators had air filters.
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Post by: FearlessF on July 09, 2025, 10:56:22 AM
hope mine doesn't
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 09, 2025, 11:46:49 AM
Most new fridges have air filters, I don't think they do much of anything.
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Post by: Riffraft on July 09, 2025, 11:57:37 AM
this implies you have a fancy fridge with ice/water on the door
up in the great white north the same return air duct goes into the furnace/AC

my furnace filter is a monster - 20x25x5 - costs a stoopid amount of money - and with the workmanship of the tinwork/sheet metal work under the furnace is a bitch to change.

makes me damned grumpy every 6 months!!!!
I just have the company that services my a/c and furnace every 6 months change out all my filters.  And I have a null filter in my fridge because I have r/o water sent to my ice maker, so when the water softerner and r/o system is serviced once a year it is handled.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 09, 2025, 12:03:34 PM
I looked into an R/O system for here. Man, those waste a lot of water.

We have a softener and a Halo system.

Definitely not on par with Lake Michigan water, but not as bad as it was when we moved in.
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 09, 2025, 12:27:24 PM
R/O water tastes awful unless it blends back in some salts.

The city water here is fine with me.  The bedrock is granite, not limestone, so the hardness is pretty low.  I don't taste the chlorine.

Our big problem is old water mains.
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Post by: MrNubbz on July 09, 2025, 12:35:30 PM
Out of sight out of mind - until it bursts
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 09, 2025, 12:47:05 PM
R/O water tastes awful unless it blends back in some salts.

The city water here is fine with me.  The bedrock is granite, not limestone, so the hardness is pretty low.  I don't taste the chlorine.

Our big problem is old water mains.
Water here is very hard.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 09, 2025, 12:52:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Rog6u3P.png)

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Post by: Cincydawg on July 09, 2025, 12:55:42 PM
A VERY different map, making me grumpy:

(https://i.imgur.com/oyCtCqC.png)
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 09, 2025, 01:20:14 PM
Horrible H20: Why Does Florida Have Hard Water? | Smart Cities Dive (https://www.smartcitiesdive.com/ex/sustainablecitiescollective/horrible-h20-why-does-florida-have-hard-water/214786/)
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 09, 2025, 01:32:05 PM
I'm grumpy from thinking about the $15K I spent to have mediocre water (major upgrade from terrible).
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 09, 2025, 01:39:00 PM
I was unaware Florida had hard water, and I used to work on laundry detergents back in the day.  

I learn things here often.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 09, 2025, 06:09:32 PM
I use RO to prepare brewing water. That was a pretty solid change to beer quality.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 10, 2025, 07:06:40 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/B3TnCcY.png)
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Post by: Gigem on July 10, 2025, 07:12:59 AM
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I sell and install water softeners as part of my business. Most of our groundwater is 7-10 grains, but we can also have iron. We also have wells with 20 grains or more. 
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Post by: FearlessF on July 10, 2025, 07:18:42 AM
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buy in the 10lb chubs
at less the 1lb tubes
they charge a lot to make nice patties
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Post by: FearlessF on July 10, 2025, 07:23:48 AM
The variation in water hardness throughout Iowa influences not only the taste and aesthetics of the water but also the efficiency of soaps and detergents, plumbing maintenance, and the lifespan of appliances that utilize water. Given the state’s geological diversity, water hardness is not uniform, highlighting the need for localized water treatment solutions and ongoing monitoring of water quality.

In the provided data, the water hardness levels show substantial variations across different cities in Iowa. Among the cities for which data is reported, the highest water hardness level is recorded in Hiawatha with a hardness of 291.0 ppm, 17.0 gpg. Conversely, the city with the lowest recorded water hardness level is Iowa City, reporting a hardness of 107.5 ppm, 6.3 gpg.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 10, 2025, 07:25:58 AM
Our TDS was 440. Now it's 180. I could get it lower with an RO system added on to what I already have.

It's 100 out of the fridge, which is what we drink.
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Post by: Gigem on July 10, 2025, 07:39:36 AM
Our TDS was 440. Now it's 180. I could get it lower with an RO system added on to what I already have.

It's 100 out of the fridge, which is what we drink.
TDS usually runs 800-1200 here on well water. 
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 10, 2025, 07:43:14 AM
I was used to less than 50.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 10, 2025, 07:44:12 AM
TDS usually runs 800-1200 here on well water.
That's what it is here before it comes out of the treatment plant.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 10, 2025, 09:19:42 AM
[img width=343.455 height=222]https://i.imgur.com/B3TnCcY.png[/img]
92% IMHO is a terrible burger. Too lean. 
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 10, 2025, 09:24:23 AM
92% IMHO is a terrible burger. Too lean.
Yes, it's OK for spaghetti etc. 
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 10, 2025, 09:32:27 AM
92% IMHO is a terrible burger. Too lean.
You know what I went through last year. 
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 10, 2025, 10:01:35 AM
You know what I went through last year.
True. Hoping I never need the same.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 10, 2025, 10:08:00 AM
It still hurts, 7 months in. You don't want this.

92 is fine in a cast iron skillet. Can't grill it.
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 10, 2025, 11:50:40 AM
My wife likes to watch the local weather report before we sleep, I check it on line, get'er done.  But, dude or dudette stands in front of green screen map and runs through half the temperatures in the area that vary by .... 1-2°F.  Oh, it's 88°F in Griffin, 87°F in Winder, 86°F in Cumming, and up in the mountains, 82°F in Blairsville.  No kidding. 

Folks it's high 80s around the metro area, done.  Tomorrow it may rain and it'll be hot.  Back to you Skip for sports.

"Thanks, Ernie, in sports news, the Braves lost, again, they now have lost 12 of their last 9 games."
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 10, 2025, 11:51:51 AM
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 10, 2025, 12:32:46 PM
It's really hot here. Feels like 110+. The air is very wet.
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 10, 2025, 12:40:32 PM
Dew point here is 70°F which is my check point, anything past that is unpleasant.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 10, 2025, 12:49:59 PM
74 here. Brutal.
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Post by: Gigem on July 10, 2025, 01:31:01 PM
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LOL I watched this exact forecast this morning.  Usually there is another weather chick, Chita, that I watch every day.  I have no idea what the weather will be, but I watch.  This weather chick, Kim, is quite nice too.  

Not quite true though, because my business is so weather dependent.  
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Post by: Riffraft on July 10, 2025, 02:04:37 PM
It's really hot here. Feels like 110+. The air is very wet.
Got to admit, I was out at the golf course this morning and the heat actually got to me. I quit after 17 holes. I was surprised, it hasn't happened before, even when it has been over 100.  It is currently over 100 degrees. 
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 10, 2025, 02:05:28 PM
Age catches up.
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Post by: FearlessF on July 10, 2025, 03:35:50 PM
Got to admit, I was out at the golf course this morning and the heat actually got to me. I quit after 17 holes. I was surprised, it hasn't happened before, even when it has been over 100.  It is currently over 100 degrees.
>:( were you walking?
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Post by: MikeDeTiger on July 10, 2025, 04:43:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/GOUfIfp.png)

Speaking of high temperatures, for my money she's eligible for the hotties thread.  
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Post by: Riffraft on July 10, 2025, 04:44:16 PM
>:( were you walking?
Hell no
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Post by: MikeDeTiger on July 10, 2025, 04:45:19 PM
74 here. Brutal.

Dew point is 75 here right now.  And when I walk outside, sadly, I catch myself thinking "Hey, it's not bad out here today."  

I, for one, could use some climate change.  
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Post by: FearlessF on July 10, 2025, 04:49:02 PM
Hell no
some days it just hits different
I try to stay hydrated - if I'm not watering the fairway regularly, I drink faster
I felt the heat more than usual one day last weekend on the course - the humidity was brutal, only mid-80s for the temp
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 10, 2025, 06:41:09 PM
Speaking of high temperatures, for my money she's eligible for the hotties thread. 
Seems that's par for the course with weather chicks. And the ones in the morning all look like they're dressed for the club too...
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Post by: Gigem on July 10, 2025, 08:58:21 PM
Speaking of high temperatures, for my money she's eligible for the hotties thread. 
She’s definitely pretty, but kinda has a horse face.  But I wouldn’t kick her out of bed unless she wanted to do it on the floor. 🤣
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 11, 2025, 04:59:04 PM
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Post by: FearlessF on July 11, 2025, 05:04:40 PM
most men don't
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Post by: FearlessF on July 11, 2025, 05:19:18 PM
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Post by: MrNubbz on July 12, 2025, 08:34:04 AM
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 12, 2025, 08:34:56 AM
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How much is your grouper?
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Post by: FearlessF on July 12, 2025, 08:56:00 AM
too much that I don't even ask the price - I can't afford it.  and it's frozen
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 12, 2025, 09:47:48 AM
I am really starting to "slow down" in this heat, and in general.  I still try, but the legs and breathing are not "there".  I don't know how some of the old marathoners do it.

I'm working on swimming now, for cardio, mostly, at least I don't sweat as much.  Any time I run I come back drenched, and sore.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 12, 2025, 09:49:04 AM
Stay hydrated - even when swimming.
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 12, 2025, 09:51:07 AM
Yeah, I come back and drink water like crazy.  Today is not quite as hot as last week but we're going to walk around some in a bit.

Then if the pool doesn't get crowded I'll swim some.  On weekdays, there rarely is another person in the pool or even down there sunning which is great.

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Post by: Cincydawg on July 13, 2025, 10:21:17 AM
There is a "homestead exemption" around here that reduces one's property taxes, I hope.  So, I finally applied for it.  (I didn't before because it appeared to be income restricted.)  I go on line, they have a form to complete, which I did, and submitted it, by mail.  

A week later I get a letter back that I need to send photos of our DLs and car registration, and apply on line.  I dunno why they didn't ask for this in the first place.  I go on line and start completing the forms.  They want all kinds of information including a copy of my tax returns, which is irrelevant as there is zero mention of any income cap.  I get copies of our DLs and reg and send it in, get an email back they can't read the scans I sent.  I can read them just fine, they claim they can't.  OK, this time I take photos with my phone which I guess make a larger image, send that in, recompleting the form.

Now, I wait, again.  I'm getting run around I think.
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 13, 2025, 10:34:14 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/7GPm4d8.png)
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Post by: FearlessF on July 13, 2025, 10:37:52 AM
There is a "homestead exemption" around here that reduces one's property taxes, I hope.  So, I finally applied for it.  (I didn't before because it appeared to be income restricted.)  I go on line, they have a form to complete, which I did, and submitted it, by mail. 

A week later I get a letter back that I need to send photos of our DLs and car registration, and apply on line.  I dunno why they didn't ask for this in the first place.  I go on line and start completing the forms.  They want all kinds of information including a copy of my tax returns, which is irrelevant as there is zero mention of any income cap.  I get copies of our DLs and reg and send it in, get an email back they can't read the scans I sent.  I can read them just fine, they claim they can't.  OK, this time I take photos with my phone which I guess make a larger image, send that in, recompleting the form.

Now, I wait, again.  I'm getting run around I think.
your government at work
not working
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 13, 2025, 10:45:31 AM
Yeah, I guess I'm not surprised, around here.  I was surprised when we went to get our DLs in the first place and it took maybe 15 minutes total.

That was very efficient.

Which reminds me, ours are up for renewal next year I think.  
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 13, 2025, 10:55:24 AM
Homestead exemption is easy here. When we went to get our DL's and license plates at the county tax collector, they asked us if we were residents for at least 6 months and a day and we said yes.

Exemption granted.
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 13, 2025, 01:19:45 PM
I have the option of going to a county location, but one is downtown and another is 25 miles north of us, so I thought I'd try on line.

I may end up going in person.

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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 26, 2025, 10:55:33 AM
Took my wife to the surgery center yesterday to have a small lump removed from her breast. 

The initial diagnosis has me grumpy. 

Very grumpy.
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 26, 2025, 11:57:44 AM
Oh dear.
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Post by: MrNubbz on July 26, 2025, 12:00:50 PM
Took my wife to the surgery center yesterday to have a small lump removed from her breast.

The initial diagnosis has me grumpy.

Very grumpy.
My mom had a mastectomy back in the '80s and cancer didn't kill her ,so timing and science is on your side - best wishes
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Post by: FearlessF on July 26, 2025, 01:17:31 PM
found out last Sunday at the family reunion, that my youngest aunt had a small lump removed in her breast

she's nearly through with the chemo treatments - radiation following

F cancer
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Post by: bayareabadger on July 26, 2025, 02:13:06 PM
Took my wife to the surgery center yesterday to have a small lump removed from her breast.

The initial diagnosis has me grumpy.

Very grumpy.
Ugh. Hate to read that. 
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 26, 2025, 03:04:07 PM
We're here for you.  Stay strong, break down, whatever you need.  Every single one of us is here with you hoping for the very best possible outcome.  
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 26, 2025, 03:08:51 PM
These posts make me happy.

My wife us is the most upbeat person I know, and she's tough as nails. This ain't gonna beat her.

But yeah, F Cancer.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 26, 2025, 03:54:30 PM
I had a crap week, and despite Friday being my birthday, had mostly a crap day. It improved somewhat b/c I got to go out for Chicago tavern pizza with my family, but I still went to bed in a bit of a dour mood, and woke up the same. 

Now it's Saturday and I'm doing work b/c I've got a lot of things to adjust based on said crap week. 
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Post by: Riffraft on July 26, 2025, 06:36:08 PM
Flying from ft Lauderdale to Phoenix via Houston.  Almost to Houston  pilot says storms in Houston and we don't have enough fuel to fly around and come in behind so we are diverting to Austin to get fuel.  Missed our connection and are sitting in Houston  airport for 4 hours.  Very grumpy 
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Post by: huskerdinie on July 26, 2025, 07:51:13 PM
There is a "homestead exemption" around here that reduces one's property taxes, I hope.  So, I finally applied for it.  (I didn't before because it appeared to be income restricted.)  I go on line, they have a form to complete, which I did, and submitted it, by mail. 

A week later I get a letter back that I need to send photos of our DLs and car registration, and apply on line.  I dunno why they didn't ask for this in the first place.  I go on line and start completing the forms.  They want all kinds of information including a copy of my tax returns, which is irrelevant as there is zero mention of any income cap.  I get copies of our DLs and reg and send it in, get an email back they can't read the scans I sent.  I can read them just fine, they claim they can't.  OK, this time I take photos with my phone which I guess make a larger image, send that in, recompleting the form.

Now, I wait, again.  I'm getting run around I think.
Wow - I'm glad that I didn't have that much trouble.  Just had to fill out income statements of owners (myself and sister), fill out application and send it all in to the revenue office.  We have been approved every year since we bought our mobile home.  Only had an issue this year, but they called to remind me (said they hadn't received it and I realized I forgot to fill out the income statements and send it) and I just had to resend it all - did that by email and the application was approved that day.  Evidently NE has a pretty easy process or I have just lucked out, lol.  It is well worth it though-not having to pay property taxes makes me very not grumpy
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 27, 2025, 07:35:44 AM
I got an email saying our exemption was approved, but no details at all, so I don't have any idea how much if any it may impact my property taxes.  It wasn't that hard really, just minorly annoying to send in what was requested and have more requested and then had to send that in again.  Our exemption is permanent as it's not based on income, just age.  I don't know why they wanted my tax returns except there could be a larger exemption with lower incomes.

I clearly asked for the income irrelevant exemption though.  Anyway, it's done, I guess.  The web site is about what one would expect for government.
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 27, 2025, 09:56:12 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/1eAlcNr.png)

My wife gets annoyed when folks do this.  Can we include grumpy old women?
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 27, 2025, 03:20:04 PM
Clapping in a movie theater?  That's weird.  Or is it a play?
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 27, 2025, 04:41:20 PM
Between movements.  Symphonies have movements.  
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Post by: utee94 on July 27, 2025, 05:15:31 PM
Yeah people often get that wrong.

But I'm not sure it's anything to be upset about, if someone wants to show their appreciation of a piece at an obvious pause in the music.  But of course more sophisticated listeners understand the difference between the end of a movement, and the end of the complete piece.

At our high school band's concerts, they'll often warn ahead of time if the next piece will have multiple movements, and ask the audience to hold applause until the conductor turns to acknowledge the audience.  To me that's a decent way to go about it, for those who actually care about applause between movements.

Oftentimes for our high school band, recordings are in progress either for competition or evaluation, so they prefer to hold applause until the end.



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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 27, 2025, 06:40:45 PM
Between movements.  Symphonies have movements. 
Gotcha.
So do bowels.
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Post by: Brutus Buckeye on July 27, 2025, 07:06:55 PM

What are your ballet pet peeves? 
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2025, 08:17:40 AM
I have no ballet pet peeves other than attending one, which I've never done.  I went to one opera that was about two hours too long.  My wife likes both.

It was a Mozart opera with too many notes.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 28, 2025, 09:07:36 AM
We went to an Opera in Italy. One and done. 

No ballet, and never.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 28, 2025, 10:41:13 AM
Gotcha.
So do bowels.
And the more old the grumpy old men get, the more they feel like clapping when they complete the latter. 
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Post by: utee94 on July 28, 2025, 10:42:21 AM
We went to an Opera in Italy. One and done.

No ballet, and never.
Many operas feature a ballet segment within them.  Are you certain you got away clean?
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 28, 2025, 10:43:29 AM
Yes!

(It was in Trieste)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 28, 2025, 10:43:45 AM
Years ago (early 2000s) I went to see The Nutcracker ballet. I thought it would be pretty interesting because my school tradition was that every year, the 4th grade class performed a version of The Nutcracker. Thus, I knew the story.

Nope. Pretty sure we left at intermission, and I learned that day that ballet is not for me.  
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 28, 2025, 10:47:28 AM
When we were supposed to visit St. Petersburg, my wife was very anxious to see a ballet (not the one in FL).  I was going to oblige, it was quite pricey.  I could tolerate 3 hours of something I don't really understand usually.  The opera was pretty rough on me though, I got up and walked about the building a few times.  Die Zauberflote.

There are parts with well known music and vast tracts with ... boring stuff.

Anyway, I was spared the ballet, and having never been to one I admit to be very slightly curious, but we've all seen segments on TV.  After a minute or so, I don't get it.

I have noted that symphonies often play, um, weird compositions, often something modern, with the composer present.  I have heard one that was "OK", the rest are discordant nonsense, to me, that sound like the symphony when they are tuning.

I'd prefer they stuck with the classics, which are classics for good reason.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 28, 2025, 10:51:10 AM
I'd prefer they stuck with the classics, which are classics for good reason.
Yes, we do all pine for the music of our youth :57:
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Post by: utee94 on July 28, 2025, 10:58:45 AM
I've been to several ballet and multiple operas.  I enjoy them but can certainly understand those who don't.



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Post by: utee94 on July 30, 2025, 08:22:21 AM
A/C went out for the downstairs.  Gonna be around $11,000 to replace it.

That has got me pretty grumpy today.
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Post by: FearlessF on July 30, 2025, 09:02:40 AM
Boy Howdy!  I thought $1100 was bad for a fan motor
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Post by: MrNubbz on July 30, 2025, 09:05:58 AM
I've been to several ballet and multiple operas.  I enjoy them but can certainly understand those who don't.
Rocky Horror Picture Show count?
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Post by: MrNubbz on July 30, 2025, 09:07:11 AM
And the more old the grumpy old men get, the more they feel like clapping when they complete the latter.
You saying you got the Clap?
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 30, 2025, 09:08:33 AM
A/C went out for the downstairs.  Gonna be around $11,000 to replace it.

That has got me pretty grumpy today.
They ain't cheap.

$8,000 for my 1,800-sf house.
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Post by: MrNubbz on July 30, 2025, 09:10:17 AM
Guess I'll hang onto my AC/Heat Pump a few more yrs
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Post by: FearlessF on July 30, 2025, 09:12:56 AM
I replaced my outdoor unit - AC/Heat pump a few years ago - don't remember but it was around $5K
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Post by: Riffraft on July 30, 2025, 11:56:13 AM
No beer for 30 days, just going to get grumpier
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Post by: SFBadger96 on July 30, 2025, 12:02:39 PM
I've been to a lot of ballets in my life. The Nutcracker's first act was always more fun for me than the second (the first act has the fighting with the Rat King, the Second is the travel through candyland, or whatever). It and Swan Lake are classics for a reason, but also kind of pop ballet--like a blockbuster movie. I've been impressed with the athleticism and the beauty of the dancing, but it can also get pretty boring. I'm also lucky that I've been mostly to the SF Ballet, which has an excellent reputation.

Opera is something I've never been able to appreciate. I get the concept, but it just doesn't work for me. Kind of like jazz for a lot of people.

Different art forms hit people differently--that's the beauty of art: it should stimulate your mind, but different things stimulate different people. Nothing wrong with that.

One saying I like: great art comforts the disturbed and disturbs the comfortable. 
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Post by: FearlessF on July 30, 2025, 12:36:01 PM
apparently, I'm pretty comfortable
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 30, 2025, 12:38:02 PM
One saying I like: great art comforts the disturbed and disturbs the comfortable.
Heh.  I often see "art" in some museum I don't consider to be art at all.  It's rarely disturbing, it's just ... pointless to me, and I'm not talking about pointilism.

I liked the Boston museum of fine arts.  The High Museum here is just "OK", we're members, but rarely go.  My step son's GF is an art seller of some sort, I think it's all on line, she's showed me some neat things she's offering that I like.  He's the one living in SF and doing well apparently.  She's from HK.  She lives in San Jose.  

My wife and I enjoy Solano Beach near SD, they have some pretty neat artsy fartsy shops along the main drag.

There are art shows in the park several times a year here, the vendors are curated and some of them are really nice, some have stuff I wouldn't buy but are interesting, some looks like junk, but they'll have 300+ booths.  We got to be friends with a jewerly maker who attends most of them.  Some is pottery, sculpture, paintings, the gamut, a lot of fun, usually in spring or fall when the weather is first rate.
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 30, 2025, 12:40:44 PM
I replaced my outdoor unit - AC/Heat pump a few years ago - don't remember but it was around $5K
I got a quote on ours from Costco, it was obscenely high, for a Trane.  A neighbor suggested I call this dude who showed up and said he could install a Bosch for I think around $7 K and did.  He said it would last me forever.  The other unit is a Carrier and he said that would probably last me "forever", after taking in my white hair.

These are unusual heat pumps, water sourced.  I think high rises usually have them.
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Post by: FearlessF on July 30, 2025, 12:43:26 PM
No beer for 30 days, just going to get grumpier
has always made me grumpy, I've tried it a few times
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Post by: SFBadger96 on July 30, 2025, 01:14:32 PM
There's plenty of art that I see that doesn't mean anything to me, including plenty of classics. Nothing wrong with that. I'm generally good for about an hour--sometimes two--in a museum. Get bored. It also depends on the moment. Sometimes I'm open to seeing things in the works, sometimes I'm not.

There's a reason it's hard to make a living as a fine artist.
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 30, 2025, 01:21:08 PM
My favorite museum is Musee' d'Orsay in Paris.  It's very well laid out, not crowded, the lighting is terrific, and the building itself is a work of art.  I can do two hours there.

We visited a tiny museum of Millet in Barbizon that was interesting to me because so much of his work was copied later by van Gogh and is now famous.  I'm a quasi-van Gogh fan.  

Millet Studio Museum - Fontainebleau Tourisme (https://www.fontainebleau-tourisme.com/en/file/689285/millet-studio-museum/)

(https://i.imgur.com/HMwwQ66.png)
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Post by: FearlessF on July 30, 2025, 01:35:06 PM
my daughters like that stuff - I can pretend to be entertained for about an hour
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 30, 2025, 01:38:49 PM
Best museum I've ever seen was the Vatican.
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Post by: jgvol on July 30, 2025, 01:39:53 PM
Art is something I didn't think, or care, about at all as a young man.  

As I've grown older --- I get it, and appreciate it (mostly).  
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Post by: FearlessF on July 30, 2025, 01:40:35 PM
there's hope for me - I'm getting older
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Post by: jgvol on July 30, 2025, 01:41:41 PM
there's hope for me - I'm getting older

Some consider Vettes works of art.

Aren't you the corvette guy?  :)


Corvette season is upon us.


(https://i.imgur.com/1UoOoN6.png)
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 30, 2025, 01:44:23 PM
Art is something I didn't think, or care, about at all as a young man. 

As I've grown older --- I get it, and appreciate it (mostly). 
I wanted to be an architect, so I was into arts and such from some coursework that I took.

Rennaissance art was and still is my favorite.

I switched to civil engineering once I learned that it takes like 12 years to make any money as an architect. That made me grumpy, and kinda still does. 
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Post by: FearlessF on July 30, 2025, 01:49:27 PM
Some consider Vettes works of art.

Aren't you the corvette guy?  :)


Corvette season is upon us.


(https://i.imgur.com/1UoOoN6.png)
yes but first a car guy.
I do find some vehicles to be very appeasing to the eye
similar to some ladies

and then for something completely different........ a well orchestrated triple-option play is a work of art in my opinion 
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 30, 2025, 01:49:51 PM
Best museum I've ever seen was the Vatican.
How many paintings of "Madonna and Child" does it take for you before it becomes boring? 

I think after the first several hundred thousand I walked past, I was kinda over it. 
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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 30, 2025, 01:58:04 PM
How many paintings of "Madonna and Child" does it take for you before it becomes boring?

I think after the first several hundred thousand I walked past, I was kinda over it.

We had a great Docent who really knew where to find stuff and what to show - and explain it. It was just me, my wife, and her.

$$$$
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Post by: SFBadger96 on July 30, 2025, 02:22:21 PM
Similarly had a really good guided experience at the Vatican. Impressive collection of art, and interesting history, besides.

I "get" Van Gogh, I think. I tend to trend darker in what speaks to me. I found Guernica powerful. Part of that is understanding what Picasso was reflecting on--the history matters to me. Most Picasso doesn't interest me. A lot of impressionism is "pretty," but not very interesting.

Good marble statues impress me. The craftsmanship of making stone look supple is impressive. 

Some "modern" art is really cool; a lot of it is completely meaningless. What makes one vs. the other is probably impossible to describe.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 30, 2025, 02:26:12 PM
BTW I'm joking about the Vatican. It's impressive. 

It's just the running joke my wife and I have about being there. "Oh look, another Madonna and child!"

Kinda like European Vacation: "look kids, Parliament/Big Ben"...

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Post by: 847badgerfan on July 30, 2025, 02:32:32 PM
A few years later we had the same Docent company give us the Colosseum and Palatine Hill tour.

Again, just 3 of us, for two days. That was awesome.

I really appreciated those places as an engineer.
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 30, 2025, 02:50:14 PM
We lucked into an excellent guide through the Vatican, it was a group tour, but well done.  We're staying next door this time out so I'll try another tour for the wife.

Who is this Madonna person?  I didn't know she was around back then.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 30, 2025, 02:53:11 PM
We didn't tour the catacombs, as we didn't even realize it was an option. But then when we heard about it, my wife said that if we ever go back, we want to add that in.

https://www.basilicasanpietro.va/en/products/the-necropolis
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Post by: FearlessF on July 30, 2025, 03:14:27 PM
this person makes me grumpy

(https://i.imgur.com/S95mP0W.jpeg)
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Post by: Riffraft on July 30, 2025, 04:32:08 PM
Loved the Vatican, louvre, British.  Orsay was nice.  Could have spent more hours in those 3.  Favorite is the British museum mainly because of the Rosetta stone which is my holy grail.
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Post by: SFBadger96 on July 30, 2025, 05:06:15 PM
this person makes me grumpy

(https://i.imgur.com/S95mP0W.jpeg)
Talk about someone who has had a ton of work done and now really shows it in all the worst ways.
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 04, 2025, 10:55:11 AM
This is my wife's beef, and I hear about it over and over.  A street near us that we use often is being ... rehabbed.  It's normally a one way street with four lanes.  Now it's going to be a two lane street with these dividers in one lane and a bike lane in the other.  It's still under construction, but my wife thinks traffic will be a mess.

I think it will be mostly OK except when delivery trucks block one lane.  And they are starting on the other major one way street now that runs parallel to this one, same deal.

(https://i.imgur.com/U7eQAgg.png)

Juniper Complete Street Project | Midtown Atlanta (https://www.midtownatl.com/project/juniper-street-transformation-project)
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Post by: FearlessF on August 04, 2025, 11:31:44 AM
I see bike lanes as usually under used - maybe their are more folks riding bikes in Atlanta
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 04, 2025, 11:33:01 AM
The main thing folks ride here are these small electric scooters.  Bikes are pretty rare.  The city has this vision all this will encourage more bikes.

I doubt it.
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Post by: FearlessF on August 04, 2025, 11:38:45 AM
great, encourage bike riding that probably won't happen, by taking away a lane of traffic that is being used and will probably continue to be even more important going forward

I'm not a fan of bicyclists on roads built for traffic.
if bicyclists want a place to ride, fund their own project
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Post by: utee94 on August 04, 2025, 11:40:01 AM
City put in bike lanes all over Austin.  Almost entirely unused but hey, it did succeed in turning many 4 lane roads into 2 lane roads and making traffic much worse.

Victory!
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Post by: 847badgerfan on August 04, 2025, 11:55:09 AM
Government causing problems so they can solve problems and cause more problems to solve later.

Rinse.

Repeat.
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Post by: FearlessF on August 04, 2025, 12:13:47 PM
traffic issues................

at the stop light, 2 lanes of traffic going straight (10 to 20 vehicles) waiting while one vehicle in the left turn lanes goes first.

I appreciate the flashing yellow signal in the left turn lane....  wait until the 20 vehicles go thru and then make your left turn

maybe a reason for more "round abouts"  -  the round abouts don't make me grumpy
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Post by: 847badgerfan on August 04, 2025, 12:16:34 PM
Not possible in a major city without buying buildings.

So, not possible.
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Post by: FearlessF on August 04, 2025, 12:45:20 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/lhysaFy.png)
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 04, 2025, 12:51:18 PM
There might be one or two intersections near me where there is room for traffic circles, especially if some parkland is used.  One problem is how many drivers here already struggle with the few we have already.

Meanwhile, we are getting more bike lanes.  The construction now is going to be right outside my office soon.
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Post by: bayareabadger on August 04, 2025, 01:21:49 PM
traffic issues................

at the stop light, 2 lanes of traffic going straight (10 to 20 vehicles) waiting while one vehicle in the left turn lanes goes first.

I appreciate the flashing yellow signal in the left turn lane....  wait until the 20 vehicles go thru and then make your left turn

maybe a reason for more "round abouts"  -  the round abouts don't make me grumpy
Roundabouts also generally slow down traffic.
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Post by: FearlessF on August 04, 2025, 01:23:10 PM
I've not had an issue at a round about nor have I witnessed anyone else have an issue

folks get better with them with more experience - as with most things
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Post by: FearlessF on August 04, 2025, 01:24:15 PM
Roundabouts also generally slow down traffic.
yup, great for intersections that were previously a 2-way or 4-way stop sign
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Post by: bayareabadger on August 04, 2025, 01:25:06 PM
City put in bike lanes all over Austin.  Almost entirely unused but hey, it did succeed in turning many 4 lane roads into 2 lane roads and making traffic much worse.

Victory!

The city I live in try to do dedicated bus lanes for a few years. As far as I can tell, the bus service was still very poor.

they also built a cluster bike lanes, including one that is very funny because it was wide enough that people just kept using it as a right turn lane, and they had to put up those flimsy little reflective, white poles to get people to stop driving there. (Weirdly the biggest traffic issue there is the stoplight timing)
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Post by: FearlessF on August 04, 2025, 01:26:58 PM
poor and/or pitiful stoplight timing makes me grumpy

there is a major boulevard in Sioux City that I avoid for that reason.  Unfortunately, it's been that way since the 80s, probably before
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Post by: SFBadger96 on August 04, 2025, 01:29:17 PM
Roundabouts are intended to be chaotic; it is a feature, not a bug. Chaos makes people pay attention, which leads to fewer wrecks. Signaled intersections (stop lights, stop signs) are one of the biggest areas for wrecks because people assume how everyone will act. Roundabouts don't have that problem.

Roundabouts also generally have better throughput than signaled intersections. Drivers think everything gets "slowed down" because they have to slow down earlier than at signaled stops and there is less certainty about when they will get through, but the reduced stoppage time often leads to better throughput, which means higher average speeds. Often, not always.
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Post by: utee94 on August 04, 2025, 01:32:57 PM
Roundabouts are intended to be chaotic; it is a feature, not a bug. Chaos makes people pay attention, which leads to fewer wrecks. Signaled intersections (stop lights, stop signs) are one of the biggest areas for wrecks because people assume how everyone will act. Roundabouts don't have that problem.

Roundabouts also generally have better throughput than signaled intersections. Drivers think everything gets "slowed down" because they have to slow down earlier than at signaled stops and there is less certainty about when they will get through, but the reduced stoppage time often leads to better throughput, which means higher average speeds. Often, not always.
Yup, fewer wrecks and higher throughput on average.

I still don't like 'em but we don't have a lot of them around here anyway.

They're quite common in Europe.


(https://i.imgur.com/iqe9fGV.png)
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 04, 2025, 01:33:45 PM
They installed a round about near us, a route I often go.  It was a three way intersection, so it should work pretty well, but at least half the time some car stops dead even if zero traffic is coming the other way.  They aren't common enough for visitors to realize how they operate, and no doubt some locals unfamiliar with the area.  I've also had cars in the round about who stop even though they have right of way over me, and I'm already clearly stopping.  

It is better than the old traffic signal there.  It's a very small RAB that didn't take up much extra room.  Just past that is a weird intersection that is ancient, it has an exit ramp and entrance ramp to an ancient freeway that has room for an RAB, maybe.

That freeway is from 1954, some of its concrete is still present.  They built a parallel new freeway and left the old one intact for a few miles.

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Post by: Cincydawg on August 04, 2025, 01:35:16 PM
I got "stuck" on that Etoile once, I had migrated to the inside and my wife was saying to take the fourth exit and I couldn't count exits and dodge cars.  I went around a few times.  The trick is to put on your turn signal and just GO.  I still took the fifth exit.  
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Post by: FearlessF on August 04, 2025, 01:35:19 PM
yeah, I'm not sure about those in Europe where you have 4-6 lanes going each direction
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 04, 2025, 01:58:38 PM
Yeah, one of the very first things I had to navigate leaving the airport with my rental car in Ireland was a roundabout... Driving on the right side of the car, driving on the left side of the road, shifting a manual with my left hand. That was... Interesting!

They had a lot of roundabouts there when you were out a bit in the country, i.e. between Galway and Killarney. Not many in the middle of downtown Dublin though. 

I suppose that I'd have to agree with Badge that you run into density problems when you're putting in roundabouts. A signaled intersection is more compact.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on August 04, 2025, 02:10:11 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/rbiKQE3.png)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 04, 2025, 02:47:57 PM
I've been working on finally rehabilitating the backyard and growing grass. It's making some progress. 

So I go out this morning and turn the spigot on the hose feeding the sprinkler. Felt... "Weird". Like something was stuck and then released. Okay then...

...and I go out a while later to turn it off, and it won't turn off. Something inside the valve has broken. I can turn it FAIRLY low, but not off. 

So until the damn property management company can get a plumber out here, I've just shut the house inlet valve. Which means I'm not leaking water into the backyard--but I have no water service at all. 

I realize I can turn it back on temporarily--and will as needed. But that's annoying, and now I'm grumpy. 
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Post by: 847badgerfan on August 04, 2025, 03:02:38 PM
Get a valve or cap at the hardware store and turn it off.
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Post by: utee94 on August 04, 2025, 03:04:58 PM
That's grump worthy for sure.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 04, 2025, 03:09:45 PM
Get a valve or cap at the hardware store and turn it off.
Hell, I could just replace the sprinkler that's on the head of the hose with my normal sprayer and turn it off. 

It would still be leaking out of the actual spigot valve though, whereas having the house water turned off entirely means nothing's wasted anywhere. 

The property manager got back to me and I should hear from the plumber shortly. 
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Post by: 847badgerfan on August 04, 2025, 03:10:57 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/l3yN8b9.png)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 04, 2025, 03:17:43 PM
Leaking here...

So installing that won't stop the leak. 

The valve needs to be replaced. And I'm not about to start messing with 50 year old pipes in a house I don't own...
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Post by: 847badgerfan on August 04, 2025, 03:25:58 PM
Grumpy.
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Post by: FearlessF on August 04, 2025, 03:27:08 PM
I suppose water is expensive there
That would make me grumpy
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 04, 2025, 06:30:39 PM
All fixed.

It's totally SoCal when your plumber shows up in flip flops, right? :57:
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Post by: 847badgerfan on August 05, 2025, 06:26:27 AM
No different than here...
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Post by: MrNubbz on August 05, 2025, 07:43:07 AM
The valve needs to be replaced. And I'm not about to start messing with 50 year old pipes in a house I don't own...
Prolly late '60s
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 05, 2025, 07:49:00 AM
I recall my house in Cincy had "frostproof valves" that weren't completely frostproof.  I had one burst after 15 years or so, there was a dedicated cutoff on the supply line at least.  I had a plumber repair it, and he said I should replace the one in the back yard as well so I did.  It seemed pricey at the time.

This basically reminds me of all the times I had to repair or replace or call someone to do it when I had a house, roof, various leaks, problems with the drainage pipes, HVAC, patio, hardwood floors, irrigation system,  carpet (replaced just before I sold it)........  Add it all up and I probably didn't make any money after the sale at all.

Give me a condo.
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Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on August 05, 2025, 08:02:12 AM
I had to replace 2 of those frost free outdoor valves this year. And they are getting pricy. I think I paid about $50 for each. 
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Post by: FearlessF on August 05, 2025, 08:35:42 AM
No different than here...
or in Austin
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Post by: FearlessF on August 05, 2025, 08:37:16 AM
This basically reminds me of all the times I had to repair or replace or call someone to do it when I had a house, roof, various leaks, problems with the drainage pipes, HVAC, patio, hardwood floors, irrigation system,  carpet (replaced just before I sold it)........  Add it all up and I probably didn't make any money after the sale at all.

Give me a condo.
just find an evil landlord and pay the Man!
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Post by: utee94 on August 05, 2025, 08:38:43 AM
I am an evil landlord.  It's gonna put my kids through college.
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Post by: FearlessF on August 05, 2025, 08:40:48 AM
got the 1st semester paid for after the savings on the Mustang
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Post by: utee94 on August 05, 2025, 08:42:02 AM
got the 1st semester paid for after the savings on the Mustang
I thought so.  Then both A/C units went out at our primary residence last week.
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Post by: MrNubbz on August 05, 2025, 10:35:49 AM
I had to replace 2 of those frost free outdoor valves this year. And they are getting pricy. I think I paid about $50 for each.
IMHO better off just sweating in new 1/4 turn shut offs on the inside walls. Then you can use penetrating oil and remove old sillcocks - the hose bibb/spigot that you’ll find coming out of your house.

I have 3 of these outside
(https://i.imgur.com/tikn3sm.png)

Just remove,clean and rebuild it. Usually nothing more than packing nut with stem packing materiel (teflon or graphite),a rubber valve seat washer, maybe some o-rings/friction rings/metal washer depending on the Mnfg. Easy job.There are also completely sealed units tha can be threaded on -  that are shyt IMO.What I don't like about the one frost free outdoor sillcock is it's like 8 full turns from on to off. So I just put one of these 1/4 turns on that 847 posted about - like 14 yrs ago.

(https://i.imgur.com/q2BxXKP.png)

The units I purchased are heavier duty than this which will save you wear/tear opening/closing that long stemmed beast.The sillcock I had bought had a lifetime guarentee. I called and told them all I need are some rebuild parts they don't have to send me the whole assembly. But no they sent me the whole new package - twice
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Post by: 847badgerfan on August 05, 2025, 10:48:31 AM
That was a cheap temporary solution before I knew where the leak from coming from.
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Post by: MrNubbz on August 05, 2025, 10:51:41 AM
that's fine they are great to put onto the Frost Free units N.O.B.was referring to - to save time and maintenance
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Post by: Gigem on August 05, 2025, 10:55:35 AM
I thought so.  Then both A/C units went out at our primary residence last week.
Jesus. Having to name a primary residence implies you have another residence. Rich bastages !

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Post by: Gigem on August 05, 2025, 10:57:15 AM
That valve repair looks ridiculously simple. Backup on the pipe, unscrew the valve. Literally a 5 minute job. 

Unless it’s sweated on copper. Little trickier but easily fixable. 
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Post by: utee94 on August 05, 2025, 10:58:57 AM
Jesus. Having to name a primary residence implies you have another residence. Rich bastages !


Hah, not exactly how I meant it.  I meant, our residence, versus one of our rental properties.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on August 05, 2025, 10:59:59 AM
You do have another residence. It moves around.
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Post by: utee94 on August 05, 2025, 11:01:30 AM
You do have another residence. It moves around.
Ha, there's that one, too.  If the A/C goes out on it, though, it's only like $800, rather than... well, the cost of a year of college.
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 05, 2025, 02:17:18 PM
Our place in the mountains doesn't have AC at all, but the place in Hawaii does.  I have not visited our place in France or Italy.

Hard to keep up with it all.
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Post by: bayareabadger on August 05, 2025, 04:25:55 PM
Hah, not exactly how I meant it.  I meant, our residence, versus one of our rental properties.
I think the shoe still fits :)
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Post by: Gigem on August 05, 2025, 07:44:11 PM
Hah, not exactly how I meant it.  I meant, our residence, versus one of our rental properties.
lol, I understand. We have some rental property our self. The last one we bought, I installed the HVAC myself with the help of a friend. Literally crawled around in the attic for hours. Learned a lot. Won’t be doing that again. 
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Post by: FearlessF on August 05, 2025, 08:05:45 PM
you learned a lesson
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Post by: Gigem on August 05, 2025, 09:54:33 PM
you learned a lesson
Well, to be honest I wouldn't call it lerning a lesson.  I was in my 30s at that time, and now I'm knocking on 50.  
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Post by: 847badgerfan on August 06, 2025, 06:30:10 AM
I wish I was knocking on 50.
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Post by: MrNubbz on August 06, 2025, 08:34:58 AM
I wish I was knock.........nevermind
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 06, 2025, 08:37:04 AM
The rain appears to have moved out, still cloudy here, but maybe I can go into the park and throw some.  I can't recall this much rain in August aside from having a residual hurricane move through.  Speaking of hurricanes, the board still looks fairly calm, a bit of development.  

I'm grumpy so don't say this is weather thread material.
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 06, 2025, 02:43:33 PM
The pool is "suck it up" temperature today, after having been bath water T for weeks.

I made a few laps.  My watch says 78°F.  Some sun out today.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 09, 2025, 12:35:24 PM
What is it about being a dad that gives you just a visceral disgust at seeing your teenaged children sleeping in on the weekends?

I mean, it's not like I want them milling around... But still... 
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Post by: 847badgerfan on August 09, 2025, 03:41:45 PM
Yeah, I used to have a bullhorn for that.
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 09, 2025, 06:16:21 PM
Not wealthy.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on August 10, 2025, 07:47:21 AM
They will be. The bullhorn worked.
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Post by: FearlessF on August 10, 2025, 08:12:37 AM
my father didn't need one

it worked
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Post by: 847badgerfan on August 10, 2025, 08:25:50 AM
I'm a stepdad.

I needed one.
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 10, 2025, 08:33:21 AM
I go into their darkened rooms and yell LIGHTS LIGHTS LIGHTS!!!!
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Post by: SFBadger96 on August 11, 2025, 12:31:02 PM
I'm grumpy that after early wake-ups for about 9 years driven in one way or another by the service, then early wake-ups by kids for all of their littlest years, I just don't sleep late anymore, whether I want to or not. I'm jealous of my kids' ability to do it. Wish I still could.
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Post by: bayareabadger on August 11, 2025, 12:36:08 PM
What is it about being a dad that gives you just a visceral disgust at seeing your teenaged children sleeping in on the weekends?

I mean, it's not like I want them milling around... But still...
I visited family this week. I still got that energy from my dad, and I am well into adulthood. (i’m not even sleeping in, but sometimes the room I stay in looks like I might be.)
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 11, 2025, 01:05:46 PM
I'm grumpy that after early wake-ups for about 9 years driven in one way or another by the service, then early wake-ups by kids for all of their littlest years, I just don't sleep late anymore, whether I want to or not. I'm jealous of my kids' ability to do it. Wish I still could.
I've never slept in. Even in college, I'd wake up early and suffer through my hangover because my body just wouldn't stay asleep. 

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Post by: Cincydawg on August 11, 2025, 01:07:56 PM
I hated getting up when I was working.  I'd get up around 7 AM and leave the house at 7:30 if I wanted to beat traffic mostly.

Now I routinely wake up at 6 or 6:30 and am wide awake raring to go.  Sort of raring.
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Post by: FearlessF on August 11, 2025, 11:59:05 PM
life sucks and then you die
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Post by: MrNubbz on August 12, 2025, 12:05:58 AM
Sorry pal not with another season of CFB on Deck I'm not!!!
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Post by: Riffraft on August 12, 2025, 10:11:39 AM
life sucks and then you die
I use to say to my kids "life's tough and then you die"   one time in a group of people just talking i said life's tough and my 8yo son pipes in and then you die right daddy then you die.
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Post by: Honestbuckeye on August 12, 2025, 10:59:03 AM
I use to say to my kids "life's tough and then you die"  one time in a group of people just talking i said life's tough and my 8yo son pipes in and then you die right daddy then you die.
😂😂😂
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 12, 2025, 11:51:00 AM
My most common comment to my kids is/was "The hardest person to be in life is yourself."  They throw that back at me often.  They say it made zero sense when they were 11.

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Post by: Gigem on August 12, 2025, 04:43:44 PM
Welp looks like the corporate Big Brother has banned Google Chrome from our computers. That makes me grumpy. I don’t even know my passwords etc to any site. 
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 12, 2025, 07:02:53 PM
You know that sale I was talking about at Costco, and how I ordered my wife a new Apple Watch? 

Yeah, they sent an email saying that my order was canceled as the watch was out of stock. 

With nothing about "when back in stock you can re-order for the same sale price" or anything like that. 

Grumpy. 
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Post by: bayareabadger on August 12, 2025, 09:02:36 PM
This god damn plane, taking 34 god damn minutes to get from landing to the gate. And we still have to deplane. 
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Post by: MrNubbz on August 12, 2025, 09:05:58 PM
This god damn plane, taking 34 god damn minutes to get from landing to the gate. And we still have to deplane.
Anybody named Cooper on Board?
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Post by: FearlessF on August 12, 2025, 10:07:13 PM
I get grumpy just thinkin bout flying
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Post by: Gigem on August 14, 2025, 09:00:38 PM
https://twitter.com/mens_corner__/status/1956113776039616628?s=61
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 14, 2025, 10:31:29 PM
This god damn plane, taking 34 god damn minutes to get from landing to the gate. And we still have to deplane.
What is it - Dallas/FTW airport is bigger than Manhattan?  Sheesh.  I landed on a little plane in Charlotte and it must have been an outer, small runway.  I thought we were going to run out of gas getting to the gate.  Took the scenic route.  

Okay, we landed.  Let me out on the tarmac.  Now.
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 15, 2025, 08:37:54 AM
Longest taxiing I've experienced was in Paris (CDG).  They apparently land Delta planes on some far distant runway.  We usually have Delta going and Air France coming home.  You better pee before you get near final approach.

Then we changed planes in Dubai and got on a bus, after waiting 15 minutes, longest bus ride I've ever had at any airport.  The passengers were all laughing, most of us were headed to Amsterdam  then home, it was silly.

Folks complain about ATL because that's what folks do, but it's well laid out for connections.

I once flew back from London to NYC en route to Cincy, with a short connection, and the plane sat on the tarmac for an hour claiming the gate was full, that one gate, this was about 9 PM.  I missed my connection by over an hour, had to pay for a room, they claimed the delay was due to ... weather.  

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Post by: 847badgerfan on August 15, 2025, 09:28:35 AM
ORD has some long taci times depending on which of the 8 runways are used.
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Post by: FearlessF on August 20, 2025, 09:44:38 AM
@Drew4UTk (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1) 

I invited a few guys to the board
KSBears is trying to join us.

he tells me this ........
It says registration is disabled. Is there an invite that can be sent?
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Post by: SFBadger96 on August 21, 2025, 12:31:30 PM
I've been known to use some salty language. I don't generally judge it, but one of my kids swears more than I'd like. I've pointed it out on more than one occasion. My grandfather used to say that swearing was the result of laziness; not taking the time to find the right word. Maybe, but sometimes a well-placed expletive is exactly the right word. That being said, I've also caught myself plenty of times, having just sworn, thinking that it sounded awfully crass and out of place. Pointless. Lazy.

We've all heard the phrase "swears like a sailor," but my experience led me to question that saying, at least a little.

At the very end of my Army life, I participated in a joint exercise on a Navy ship. For about a week I sailed the Atlantic, slept in a little coffin, and ate in the officers' mess. Naval officers eat off of China (at least on a ship), and they have an "etiquette" officer, a junior officer, who enforces the rules--the proper manners--of the mess. For the ground pounders on that joint exercise, used to going to the field and eating out of a thick plastic bag with a brown plastic spoon, we were bemused. I pointed out that etiquette in the Army was figuring out whether your commander liked it, or didn't like it when you swore. This Navy Lieutenant JG laughed and said that with all of these guests aboard, he had to relax the rules a little. Most of my commanders liked a well-placed F-bomb, though some pretended to be a little more demure. 

Which leads me to my grumpy old man thought of the moment: spoken language is different than written language. In written language swearing is rarely appropriate. Not never, but rarely. I find that in writing it is better at conveying levity than seriousness--often the opposite of its usage in spoken language. And I find that expletives on this board are more often than not crass and pointless, not effective or well-aimed. Some might even say lazy.
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 21, 2025, 12:40:15 PM
Interesting comments.  I was musing about the Navy ships that have Marines on board.  The enlisted must eat together, maybe the self segregate, dunno.  On the other hand, Marines think highly of their Navy Corpsmen, so maybe they pretty much get along.  The assault ships may carry more Marines than sailors.  Every ship used to have some Marines on board to "guard the Captain" but that was dropped a while back.

I had sent some dried Asian meals to my son in Iraq and he told me they were highly prized because everything else was so tasteless/bland.  They apparently got some kind of field kitchen after a few months that was apparently better.  They did spend four days in the desert once watching some town with no action eating MREs and nothing else.  He did not care for that.

I digress.
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Post by: utee94 on August 21, 2025, 12:46:56 PM
I don't swear a ton, if I do it's probably for emphasis.  I guess I agree on written swearing versus spoken, but I also view message board interactions in exactly the same way I view spoken conversations.

In general I don't worry about what others might think of me if I swear.  I'm confident in my own intellect and capabilities, if someone wants to think less of me when I swear, that's really their issue and not mine.

Now, being mean or cruel or heartless or denigrating or overly antagonistic, in real conversation or message board interactions-- those are traits that absolutely do make me think less of a person.

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Post by: SFBadger96 on August 21, 2025, 12:54:27 PM
Field kitchens were a God send whenever we had them. Often we would get them for one meal, or one day, per week in the field. The higher up one got in admin, the more access to field kitchens. When I was on battalion staff in the field, we had a field kitchen nearby quite often. Not surprising--they were in the rear with the gear (our Battalion HQ was co-located with Division HQ). But my time in the field was all "exercise"--different in nearly every way than what took place in Iraq.
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 21, 2025, 12:56:39 PM
I almost never use profanity.  Oddly enough, my wife will fairly often, and then say "Pardon" instantly thereafter, and it's always in French.

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Post by: utee94 on August 21, 2025, 01:13:39 PM
Ah, so your wife is the actual inventor of the phrase, "pardon my French."


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Post by: FearlessF on August 21, 2025, 06:54:34 PM
my father taught me to consider who was within earshot when swearing

in other words, not around women and children, but also not around anyone that found it offensive

unless of course you were trying to offend someone
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 21, 2025, 07:47:59 PM
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/26/health/swearing-benefits-wellness
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Post by: FearlessF on August 21, 2025, 07:58:17 PM
I've heard about that research

not sure that there are benefits while typing
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Post by: FearlessF on August 28, 2025, 09:27:38 AM
Bitdefender doesn't like the unsecured wifi at the crap hotel this morning so no access with the laptop 
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 28, 2025, 09:55:43 AM
Tonight is the start of Week 1 of CFB. 

So *of course* it's $^!*#&% back to school night at my daughter's middle school :96:
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Post by: Riffraft on August 28, 2025, 12:53:00 PM
My wife scheduled our flight to NYC on Saturday during the Tx-OSU game 
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Post by: 847badgerfan on August 28, 2025, 12:57:41 PM
That's grounds for dismissal.
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Post by: utee94 on August 28, 2025, 01:01:59 PM
I don't ever let my i s c & a aggie wife schedule the travel plans.  She can pick the items of interest at the destination, but if I don't make the actual travel plans, something always ends up wonky.
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 28, 2025, 01:08:45 PM
My wife scheduled a trip to Cincinnati tomorrow.  I grumbled.  Better to go than cause a ruckus.  Some birthday gig.  

I did talk her into a trip to Blue Ash Chili, she had scheduled lunch at Maggiano's interestingly enough.  She really likes her priest, who is now retired, and we try to meet up for lunch when we're there.  I like him a lot also.  
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Post by: MrNubbz on August 28, 2025, 01:25:39 PM
My wife scheduled our flight to NYC on Saturday during the Tx-OSU game
That was no accident,next thing she'll have you lined up for a fall wedding when the Dawgs are playing in the SEC C.C.G.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 28, 2025, 01:29:10 PM
My wife scheduled a trip to Cincinnati tomorrow.  
Grab yourself some Christian Moerlein while you're there,you might have been acquainted from your previous stint
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 28, 2025, 01:51:39 PM
I don't ever let my i s c & a aggie wife schedule the travel plans.  She can pick the items of interest at the destination, but if I don't make the actual travel plans, something always ends up wonky.
My wife was always the one in her past life that had to make and be in charge of travel plans. 

I've always been the same. 

That was a responsibility she was quite happy to cede to me when we met. She's more than capable, but she knows I am as well and that she'd rather not...


(https://i.imgur.com/l1DGugw.png)
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on August 28, 2025, 01:54:49 PM
Yeah we had the one "incident" where she planned our honeymoon because I was working and she had finished grad school and had a job lined up but at the moment had plenty of time.  She took care of everything, and I just let her do it, and let her tell me the exact plan.

So when it was time to go, she told me to pack up, and we got all our stuff together, and then we arrived at the airport... exactly one day early.

Which, as she pointed out, was better than one day late...

Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Gigem on September 02, 2025, 09:50:18 AM
Not sure where to post this, but Grumpy Old Man Thread is probably as good as any.  

College Gameday.....Lee Corso.  I mean, we all love Lee Corso, but the whole "last game day " deal got old quick.  I mean, the dude is like 90 years old and should have retired years ago.  I have to think the ratings are not that great, that show got stale a long time ago.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 02, 2025, 10:07:28 AM
I didn't bother to watch it

I was never a Corso fan
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 02, 2025, 10:09:48 AM
Well, with the Corso love fest, they finally had enough material to fill three hours for once. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on September 02, 2025, 10:26:22 AM
Well, with the Corso love fest, they finally had enough material to fill three hours for once.

Ha!  That was exactly my thought!

It's been probably two decades since I watched the show as anything other than having background noise on, but I actually watched most of this one, and enjoyed it. 

But I also think it's time for Corso to move on and am glad he was able to go out while still being (mostly) cognizant and coherent.

I agree with Gigem, probably should have happened many years ago.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 02, 2025, 10:31:37 AM
15-20 years too late.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Gigem on September 02, 2025, 10:45:43 AM
That and Kirk Herbstreits' dog.  What is the deal with that?  I don't even remember that being much of a deal, and then a year or two ago they started hyping this dog...then the dog dies, then they get another...and every week they have to showcase the dog as if it's something special.  

Does anybody remember Kirks dog being a big deal 3-4 years ago?  I almost think they decided to play it up since they knew the dog was near the end of life and it would make great TV.  
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 02, 2025, 10:52:50 AM
I quit watching long before dogs were involved
glad I did
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 02, 2025, 11:16:11 AM
I have the Fox and/or B1G channel on for pregame background noise.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 02, 2025, 11:28:17 AM
yup, depending on location
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 02, 2025, 12:49:24 PM
May as well put this here.

This package was dropped off at the local post office. From there, it went to Miami, then Tampa, and finally to its destination in Englewood. This package travelled 520 miles, for a 27 mile trip from Punta Gorda to Englewood.

Any questions on Post Office efficiency?

(https://i.imgur.com/9NiXawQ.png)
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 04, 2025, 04:53:56 PM
I'd been slacking on my workouts. I was still riding the Peloton, but my strength work basically took a multi-month hiatus due to a spiral of depression. 

So... This week I decided to fix that. And I've finally done some strength workouts. 

Which will eventually make it into the "happy" thread...

...but for now...

...everything is pain. :91:
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: SuperMario on September 04, 2025, 05:01:49 PM
May as well put this here.

This package was dropped off at the local post office. From there, it went to Miami, then Tampa, and finally to its destination in Englewood. This package travelled 520 miles, for a 27 mile trip from Punta Gorda to Englewood.

Any questions on Post Office efficiency?

[img width=347.997 height=500]https://i.imgur.com/9NiXawQ.png[/img]
Earlier this year I had something shipping from Illinois to Ohio.. Somehow ended up in England.. the country.. When i asked the company to just cancel it and resend, the preferred the route of shipping it back.. It was a $20 item.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: SFBadger96 on September 05, 2025, 11:54:07 AM
Hot water heater wouldn't connect to the wi-fi (needed to recirc the water so as not to wait for hot...long, further grumpy-old-man story...). Tried calling the company hotline--message says they don't take hotline calls anymore, have to use the chatbot. Logged into the chat bot on Wednesday, said it would be an 11 minute wait. Was a 15 minute wait. Then it referred me to "level 2 support" because I had already done all the things the chat bot would have wanted me to try. Level 2 support would be a 7 minute wait. 20 minutes later I had to leave for work.

So, tried again this morning. Same: 11 minute wait: turned into closer to 20. Sent to Level 2 support: took about an extra 8 minutes. Finally got through, turned out the fix was to unplug the whole unit and plug it back in again. Gold-darn-it. Simplest freakin' troubleshooting fix of all, and I hadn't tried it yet. To be fair, the problem was the wi-fi module, but the fix was to unplug the whole water heater, then plug it back in. But still. Made me mad that I hadn't done that on my own. Weird thing is it is a natural gas heater, but it takes some electricity to run its brain; that was what needs resetting. And the fact that it is a gas heater is the reason I hadn't thought about just rebooting the computer part of it. Sigh.

Stoopit newfangled technology.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on September 10, 2025, 09:24:25 AM
Last week with my step son we drove to Cincinnati for a 90th birthday celebration of a friend of my wife's.  OK, whatever.  The first event was a dinner of sorts at some pretty mundane restraurant in their patio, fortunately the weather was nice.  I'd guess there were 60 people crowded into the space.  The birthday boy gave a speech, a long speech, and hardly anyone listened.  I could hear he was talking but not what he was saying because everyone else was talking at the same time, the noise level was bothersome to me, I'm a bit sensitive to loud noises.  Anyway, I sat at the table and had a couple glasses of pretty awful white wine and a plate from their "buffet", no big deal.  I said nothing, again because of the noise level.  People kept rearranging the seating at the table bringing more tables over, so I constantly had to get up and shift my chair.  So, I'm not in a good mood, and my wife knows it.  A few people I didn't know tried to ask me something, I couldn't make it out unless they screamed in my ear, all while birthday boy is droning on about something.  This sort of event is entirely something I abhor.

The next day, the event was a brunch with a "smaller group" and dude's condo, I told my wife I couldn't make it.  She later told me I made a good choice.  Then that afternoon was a riverboat cruise to watch the fireworks, I told my wife I wasn't going even though she had paid $500 for the ticket, which amazed me.  So, I stayed in the two bedroom loft my step son had rented, and walked over to a Kroger downtown to get some food.  This was in the OTR area of Cincy which is ... interesting.

I'm told Birthday Boy made another long speech on the boat, this time apparently folks quieted down a bit.  My wife said he rambled.  This fellow is the only of her friends I actively dislike, I dislike very few people, I do ignore others I don't particularly care to around, but dislike?  Not often.

Then we drove back.  Amidst the group was our friends from France who I do like, and their daugher and her husband I don't recall ever meeting.  The father was the CEO of my wife's company and she worked directly for him and he is a very interesting fellow, as is his wife.  They drove down to ATL to stay near us and visited for dinner which turned out to be enough to compensate for the silliness above, I really enjoyed that.  The daughter probably wondered how I could be so sullen at their party and so lively and engaged at our dinner.  So, that part worked out fine.  And my two kids are coming in Friday for my birthday, so that will be fun, probably.

Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: jgvol on September 10, 2025, 10:29:41 AM
Hot water heater wouldn't connect to the wi-fi (needed to recirc the water so as not to wait for hot...long, further grumpy-old-man story...). Tried calling the company hotline--message says they don't take hotline calls anymore, have to use the chatbot. Logged into the chat bot on Wednesday, said it would be an 11 minute wait. Was a 15 minute wait. Then it referred me to "level 2 support" because I had already done all the things the chat bot would have wanted me to try. Level 2 support would be a 7 minute wait. 20 minutes later I had to leave for work.

So, tried again this morning. Same: 11 minute wait: turned into closer to 20. Sent to Level 2 support: took about an extra 8 minutes. Finally got through, turned out the fix was to unplug the whole unit and plug it back in again. Gold-darn-it. Simplest freakin' troubleshooting fix of all, and I hadn't tried it yet. To be fair, the problem was the wi-fi module, but the fix was to unplug the whole water heater, then plug it back in. But still. Made me mad that I hadn't done that on my own. Weird thing is it is a natural gas heater, but it takes some electricity to run its brain; that was what needs resetting. And the fact that it is a gas heater is the reason I hadn't thought about just rebooting the computer part of it. Sigh.

Stoopit newfangled technology.

Water heater connects to wi-fi.....Whaaaa?

I'm definitely behind the times......gladly, probably.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 10, 2025, 10:30:23 AM
I'll try to stay back here
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: SFBadger96 on September 10, 2025, 01:06:59 PM
Water heater connects to wi-fi.....Whaaaa?

I'm definitely behind the times......gladly, probably.
Frankly, I'm a little annoyed (grumpy old man-style) at that, too.

We have a tankless water heater (good decision, but it has its downsides), and it has a recirc pump so that if you know you're going to want hot water at a faucet far away from the heater, it's a good idea to run the recirc for a few minutes beforehand. You activate the recirc pump through the wi-fi. Generally it works well, and when you live in a place without much water, it's better not to just run the water until the hot water arrives, which can be as much as minutes later, depending on where in the house (PS it's not that big a house). There's another part of this story, which is the crappy job the plumber did when this system was installed, but it's just something we've learned to live with.

Anyway, because of the way this system works, with the use of wifi, the freaking mfg knows everything about my water use. That bugs me. Not that it will ever matter, but it is a little creepy that some chatbot knows when I'm using my hot water.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 10, 2025, 01:08:08 PM
Wife's RX needs front lower control arms replaced, and full pads & rotors all around. That's... Not cheap. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 10, 2025, 01:47:45 PM
Wife's RX needs front lower control arms replaced, and full pads & rotors all around. That's... Not cheap.
You're an engineer, just DIY it. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on September 10, 2025, 01:51:45 PM
Our thermostat connects to wifi which comes in handy, but water heater?
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 10, 2025, 02:07:53 PM
You're an engineer, just DIY it.
I would for my Jeep. Heck, I installed the entire lift kit myself. 

Not messing with her car. I'd rather pay the money than do something wrong and get blamed for it :57:
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 10, 2025, 04:31:09 PM
You're an engineer, just DIY it.
So, I'm an engineer too, and when I look under my hood and see this

(https://i.imgur.com/8tulaLT.png)

I know to get the hell away from it.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 10, 2025, 05:41:44 PM
So, I'm an engineer too, and when I look under my hood and see this

(https://i.imgur.com/8tulaLT.png)

I know to get the hell away from it.


You should be able to design a better one, machining each of the components from scratch. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Gigem on September 10, 2025, 10:15:00 PM
You're an engineer, just DIY it.
You obviously don’t understand what an engineer does. 

Engineer is not a technician. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 10, 2025, 10:17:17 PM
So, I'm an engineer too, and when I look under my hood and see this

(https://i.imgur.com/8tulaLT.png)

Ed Zachery.  Engineers cause this crap
not technicians
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 10, 2025, 10:33:09 PM
I hate how everything is covered up nowadays.  Even the undercarriage (for good reasons, but still). 

I miss my lifted Jeep where I could literally roll under it, work on it, take a nap, and roll back out.  And I'm not svelte.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 11, 2025, 12:58:32 AM
Engineers can do anything, with enough time and study. But the humility of an engineer is to know that in some cases, you simply don't have the knowledge and experience to trump other engineers who have been honing their craft for decades. 

I am not an engineer in anything remotely automotive. I can turn a wrench from time to time, but automotive design is not my field. Just as any engineer working for the Big 3 would take 5-10 years (minimum) to remotely equal my knowledge and experience in my field. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 11, 2025, 06:09:16 AM
Engineers can do anything, with enough time and study. But the humility of an engineer is to know that in some cases, you simply don't have the knowledge and experience to trump other engineers who have been honing their craft for decades.

I am not an engineer in anything remotely automotive. I can turn a wrench from time to time, but automotive design is not my field. Just as any engineer working for the Big 3 would take 5-10 years (minimum) to remotely equal my knowledge and experience in my field.
Exactly.

I've been practicing since September 4, 1984.

I'm still practicing.

Soon, I will quit.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on September 11, 2025, 06:10:22 AM
Is there some function beyond asthetics for engine covers?  I understand aero underneath, but on top?

This is the Hyundai.  I actually never open the hood until the washer fluid indicates low.  I can probably change the air filter, if it's in the box on the left.  I used to check the oil religiously back in the day.  I think the orange thing on the right relates to the electric motor, maybe.

The somewhat annoying feature of this car is that it shuts down after about a week of sitting, as in, you can't open the doors.  I have to detach a plastic cover off the door handle and use the hard key to enter and reset the battery.  It has two batteries, a regular one and then the hybrid one, so I don't know why it would run out of power sitting a week.

(https://i.imgur.com/9nq0BRi.jpeg)
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on September 11, 2025, 06:11:58 AM
A simpler affair, to me, would be one where the electric motor does all the propelling, no transmission.  An engine is there solely to generate electricity for the battery.  No alternator, one battery, not two, no start stop needed.  Maybe you could plug it in to 110v to juice the small battery a bit.  PHEV.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 11, 2025, 06:14:52 AM
I'll take the covered engine, thank you.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 11, 2025, 07:35:43 AM
apparently, engine covers look nice.
seems they would hold heat

I don't understand all the fiber carbon covers for many things.
Why put a cover on something to make it look like fiber carbon?

if it's not fiber carbon, by adding the cover, you're just adding weight that you don't need with no function
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on September 11, 2025, 08:45:21 AM
apparently, engine covers look nice.
seems they would hold heat

I don't understand all the fiber carbon covers for many things.
Why put a cover on something to make it look like fiber carbon?

if it's not fiber carbon, by adding the cover, you're just adding weight that you don't need with no function
It's aesthetic, of course.  Like most of the rear wings and front spoilers and air dams and other side skirts on all of the various production road models.  They're intended to make a road car look more aggressive, more like a race car, which actually has use for all of those aero pieces.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on September 11, 2025, 08:52:04 AM
The front air dams have some function of course at freeway speeds and a bit.  The rear spoiler  if designed correctly can also improve gas mileage at say 80 mph by separating air flow from the rear of the car where it induces drag.  The impact at say 80 mph MIGHT be a few tenths of mpgs.  

Rear Spoilers | The Point of Rear Spoilers and How to Install Them (https://autotraining.edu/auto-repair-tips/rear-spoilers/)

How Form Meets Function: The Science Behind Car Spoilers and Aerodynam – Pedal Commander® (https://pedalcommander.com/blogs/garage/the-science-behind-car-spoilers-and-aerodynamics)

At very high speeds, the drag associated with a rear spoiler increases to the point that top speed is reduced, but it keeps the car from coming off the ground.  The Z07 package on a Corvette reduces top speed.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on September 11, 2025, 08:56:16 AM
The front air dams have some function of course at freeway speeds and a bit.  The rear spoiler  if designed correctly can also improve gas mileage at say 80 mph by separating air flow from the rear of the car where it induces drag.  The impact at say 80 mph MIGHT be a few tenths of mpgs. 

Rear Spoilers | The Point of Rear Spoilers and How to Install Them (https://autotraining.edu/auto-repair-tips/rear-spoilers/)

How Form Meets Function: The Science Behind Car Spoilers and Aerodynam – Pedal Commander® (https://pedalcommander.com/blogs/garage/the-science-behind-car-spoilers-and-aerodynamics)

At very high speeds, the drag associated with a rear spoiler increases to the point that top speed is reduced, but it keeps the car from coming off the ground.  The Z07 package on a Corvette reduces top speed.

Right.  For standard production cars at legal speeds (Not Corvette Z07s on tracks and whatnot), all of those air dams and spoilers have little to zero effect.

Like I said, they are for aesthetics.  Same as the fake carbon fiber or carbon fiber cover stuff.

Which is fine.  I think they can look very cool sometimes.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 11, 2025, 08:58:26 AM
I'm not talking about functional pieces

I'm talking about a fiber carbon cover to make it look like the functional piece is made of fiber carbon
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 11, 2025, 08:58:56 AM
Arizona has some patches of sticky dust that is so fine it looks like smoke when you drive through it. It gets into every nook and cranny, and it is difficult to remove. You'll be glad for the engine cover if you ever encounter it. 

Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on September 11, 2025, 09:00:23 AM
I'm not talking about functional pieces

I'm talking about a fiber carbon cover to make it look like the functional piece is made of fiber carbon
I'm equating the two.  In the vast majority of cases for road cars running on streets, all of those air dams and spoilers and wings, are not functional either.  They are for aesthetics.  Same as the carbon fiber covers.  It's simply to look cool.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on September 11, 2025, 09:10:46 AM
I also think it looks odd to add carbon fiber pieces, even if it's real carbon fiber, to a car that is not made of carbon fiber.

Since my son has a new Mustang, and he's a teenage boy, he's obviously already looking into modifications for it. He'd like to add a new front chin spoiler and some kind of rear spoiler to the vehicle, and he keeps wanting to go with either carbon fiber, or the carbon fiber lookalike stuff.

But none of the other pieces or covers or trim work, is carbon fiber.  It's mostly matte black plastic, or in some cases glossy black.  Because of the formulation of the front grill, I think a matte black front chin spoiler would look best.  And because of the black gloss paint on the roof and some other pieces toward the rear, I think a glossy black rear spoiler would look best.

But the boy wants that carbon fiber look.  Seems weird and out of place to me but the heart wants what the heart wants I guess.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on September 11, 2025, 09:16:41 AM
I was more into auto aesthetics when I was 17 than I am today.

Of course, cars back then were any color you wanted so long as it was black ....
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 11, 2025, 09:19:02 AM
Arizona has some patches of sticky dust that is so fine it looks like smoke when you drive through it. It gets into every nook and cranny, and it is difficult to remove. You'll be glad for the engine cover if you ever encounter it.


(https://richardnilsen.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/toroweap-11.jpg?w=660&h=495)
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 11, 2025, 09:24:50 AM
it's not a mirror, it's a mirror cover


(https://i.imgur.com/3GTF6y2.png)
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 11, 2025, 09:25:20 AM
it actually adds weight
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on September 11, 2025, 09:28:10 AM
it actually adds weight
Yup.  It's strictly for aesthetics.

They make those for my son's Mustang but thankfully that's not one of the mods he wants.  The car is carbon gray metallic, but it has a trim package where the mirrors are painted gloss black instead of matching the body color.  So they already look cool.  The roof is also gloss black instead of body color, it's subtle on an already dark gray car but makes it look a lot tougher, IMO.

Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 11, 2025, 09:32:50 AM
$500

geez
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on September 11, 2025, 09:33:16 AM
Rear wing and front air dam on this bad boy probably don't do a whole lot for day-to-day performance, maybe out on the track they do?  But they sure look cool! 

(https://i.imgur.com/vh2W7Ko.jpeg)
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 11, 2025, 09:35:07 AM
oh, it goes fast enuff to get a bit of performance
even in a straight line
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 11, 2025, 09:35:35 AM
Sporty cars thread?
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 11, 2025, 09:36:54 AM
sporty cars don't make me grumpy

$500 mirror covers that serve no purpose do

hell they make the push button starter covers
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on September 11, 2025, 09:38:56 AM
Sporty cars thread?
Well Fearless is grumping about car stuff.  So here we are.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on September 11, 2025, 09:39:46 AM
sporty cars don't make me grumpy

$500 mirror covers that serve no purpose do

hell they make the push button starter covers
They make carbon fiber inserts for the cupholders.  True story.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 11, 2025, 10:24:58 AM
My buddy had either a Ducati 916 or 996 (I forget which was the current model at the time), in traditional red. 

He replaced the main bodywork pieces with carbon fiber but actually had it painted red--except for the DUCATI stencil on the sides, which were unpainted and revealed the carbon fiber underneath. 

While paint adds weight, they were still lighter than the stock body panels, and made for a pretty cool effect. 

To bring this into this thread's purpose, he was grumpy when he crashed it and broke both his arms. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on September 11, 2025, 11:34:40 AM
He's lucky he wasn't stumpy
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 11, 2025, 12:43:46 PM
He's somewhat lucky he's alive. He was being stupid riding at an absurd speed at night--I think on the interstate--and someone changed lanes right in front of him. He grabbed the brakes but hit them at a pretty high closing speed. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 11, 2025, 12:52:25 PM
You're an engineer, just DIY it.
BTW one of the reasons I don't DIY it with my wife's car...

So they finished up everything with the control arms, the brakes, and the alignment yesterday. But when they went to replace one of the sensors, now it's tripping the ABS system warning lights. 

Given that this was something that was done when THEY removed the sensor and replaced it, they're replacing the sensor and doing it for free. Only downside for us was an extra day in the shop to give them time to get the part--which doesn't bother me because it "forced" me to drive the Jeep to the office which I love doing anyway, but annoys my wife because she has to drive the Flex. 

But this sort of thing... It's an extra day in the shop for qualified professionals. For me it would mean starting my own secondary troubleshooting effort to figure out what was causing the light. Then it would entail an extra day or couple of days to order and get the part. Then it would take finding the time to do the work. All of which my wife would be stuck with my Flex and I'd have the Jeep as my only option. And then I'd still have to take it into a shop for an alignment, which is one thing I don't have the skills or tools to do. 

There are some times that it's just better to throw money at a problem, even if you're technically capable of handling it yourself. I *can* replace control arms and brakes. But it doesn't always make sense. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: SFBadger96 on September 11, 2025, 12:57:03 PM
He's somewhat lucky he's alive. He was being stupid riding at an absurd speed at night--I think on the interstate--and someone changed lanes right in front of him. He grabbed the brakes but hit them at a pretty high closing speed.
Motorcycles are dangerous in the best of circumstances. Too bad--they look like a lot of fun.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 11, 2025, 01:01:39 PM
Motorcycles are dangerous in the best of circumstances. Too bad--they look like a lot of fun.
And they're even more fun than they look :72:
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 11, 2025, 01:02:16 PM
Motorcycles are dangerous in the best of circumstances. Too bad--they look like a lot of fun.
I would never ride one here.

People can't see.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 11, 2025, 01:09:47 PM
I would never ride one here.

People can't see.
I crashed on the racetrack 2 years before the iPhone was invented. At the time I already was getting freaked out riding on public streets. 

I can't imagine owning one for on-street riding now. 

Not only do I have to worry about ordinary bad drivers, I have to worry about good drivers who are temporarily bad because they are looking at their phones, and I have to worry about drivers who are letting their Tesla drive for them. Any of those three might fail to see me. 

If I ever get another, it will be track-only. 
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Post by: MrNubbz on September 11, 2025, 02:07:42 PM
I would never ride one here.

People can't see.
  Rode mini bike's back in the day,never a street bike.After 9th grade summer FB practice a buddy and I stopped at Burger King to scarf down.A short time later some some biker stops at a red light not far from us and an older woman pulls up and hits his rear tire.Going slow prolly 5-6-7 mph. The bike immediately flipped back tire over front we looked at each other in disbelief. Couldn't believe he wasn't killed as he wasn't wearing a helmet.We were the 1st ones there the guy was sitting up on the adjacent curb holding his ribs and gasping a bit as he fired up a smoke. Prolly had a couple broken ribs and maybe a punctured lung. The rescue squad got there quick enough as did the cops.That didn't look like a lot of fun so we went back inside and finished our meal. Neither of us has taken to the 2 wheelers ever since
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Post by: jgvol on September 11, 2025, 02:38:03 PM
Motorcycles are dangerous in the best of circumstances. Too bad--they look like a lot of fun.

My nephew died in a motorcycle wreck 3 weeks ago.  Only 19 years old.

He had only had the bike for 6 weeks.  He was a wild child, and short on brains --- the kind of kid that never should have owned a motorcycle.

So glad my sons never had an interest, and now that their cousin has died on one --- a worry I'll probably never have.
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Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 11, 2025, 02:56:15 PM
Sorry to hear that @jgvol (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1567) -- that's terrible...
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Post by: MrNubbz on September 11, 2025, 03:38:46 PM
My nephew died in a motorcycle wreck 3 weeks ago.  Only 19 years old.
Condolences jgvol
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Post by: utee94 on September 11, 2025, 03:42:13 PM
Yes sorry to hear that jgvol.

My older cousin died in a motorcycle accident when he was 21 and going to UT, I was only 12 or so at the time but he was my favorite cousin and it impacted me quite a bit.

I will never, ever ride a motorcycle on roads that are shared with cars.

I have in the past ridden dirtbikes out on private property in the boonies, which was fun, but I'll never ride on the streets.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 11, 2025, 03:53:24 PM
legally a slingshot is considered a motorcycle. 

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/Polaris_Slingshot_front_3.4.18.jpg/1200px-Polaris_Slingshot_front_3.4.18.jpg)
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 11, 2025, 04:16:23 PM
I see a lot of those around here. Still a death trap.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: jgvol on September 11, 2025, 04:43:44 PM
Thanks, all.

It was topical to the convo --- hope I didn't make anyone feel bad.

Definitely sad, though.  Young lives cut short always are.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on September 11, 2025, 05:01:54 PM
Yes, that is terrible.

My oldest has a big boy H-D Super Glide and I hate it when he rides. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 11, 2025, 07:16:47 PM
And they're even more fun than they look :72:

Yes, they are 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: CatsbyAZ on September 12, 2025, 11:15:42 AM
Wife's RX needs front lower control arms replaced, and full pads & rotors all around. That's... Not cheap.

I have this exact repair scheduled at the Mazda dealer this coming Monday. Will run over $1200 + $150 for the follow-on wheel alignment.

You're an engineer, just DIY it.

This is not a repair I can do on my own. First, to access the front suspension area for work, you'll need a car lift, which I doubt anybody here has in their garage. Second, once the new controller arms are installed, a wheel alignment is required after this kind of work on/near the suspension system. No way I can do a wheel alignment without a wheel aligner system. Most standard models are over $5k. 

Shop work all the way.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on September 12, 2025, 11:24:07 AM
I thought nearly everyone had a car lift in their garage.

Pikers.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 12, 2025, 11:25:50 AM
This is not a repair I can do on my own. First, to access the front suspension area for work, you'll need a car lift, which I doubt anybody here has in their garage. 
You could conceivably do this with jack stands. It would be a lot more cramped, but possible. I did the lift kit on my Jeep with just jack stands, not a car lift. It wasn't ideal, but I did it. 

Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 12, 2025, 02:38:57 PM
Bwarb designed thee or four car lifts in his sleep, last night 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 12, 2025, 04:06:33 PM
My oldest son has a lift.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on September 12, 2025, 04:08:31 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/0S27KGx.png)
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 12, 2025, 04:15:50 PM
gotta be able to park another sports car underneath
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on September 12, 2025, 04:31:41 PM
gotta be able to park another sports car underneath
One of my old bosses had that. He was big into Morgan roadsters, had a couple of them. He could park one under the other with his lift. Also had an old-school Mini Cooper. Had some cars that were in storage.

Was telling me a story about how he and his wife were in a meeting with their financial guy, and at some point the discussion of the 9th vehicle came up and his wife said... "Wait, when exactly did you get another???" :57:

This is what life looks like when a guy in tech in SoCal marries a woman in tech in SoCal. 
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 13, 2025, 07:50:32 AM
my dentist buddy with the 9 Mustangs sold his toy shed this summer.  The nice heated shed where I was able to store the vette last winter.
I was hoping the new shed would be a spot for the vette again this winter.
He downsized,........... even sold one of the Mustangs.
No spot for the Vette.

That makes me grumpy.

looking into insulating my garage and installing a heater
 - damn
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 13, 2025, 08:21:48 AM
Running 220 is a PIA. The wire is very hard to work with.
Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: utee94 on September 13, 2025, 08:25:03 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/w51ZNtx.png)

Title: Re: OT - Grumpy Old Man Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 13, 2025, 08:46:25 AM
I know a guy.
the father of the guy that's gonna do the insulation