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Title: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: GopherRock on March 28, 2025, 09:09:34 AM
https://twitter.com/MLBONFOX/status/1575341759529308160
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on March 28, 2025, 10:07:36 AM
https://twitter.com/MLBONFOX/status/1575341759529308160

Although they were beating the Angels so badly on Opening Day, that the Angels put a position player on the mound
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 28, 2025, 10:15:50 AM
I was gonna say...

How'd the twinkies do yesterday?
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: GopherRock on March 28, 2025, 11:10:08 AM
They got eliminated from playoff contention as well. If you're looking for a team to talk trash about, this Twins team isn't it.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on March 28, 2025, 02:40:16 PM
Tigers' Cy Young winner had a bad outing, they went 0-15 with RISP, and still only lost by 1 to LAD.  Not worried about the pitching, but getting more length out of the lineup, with arguably our 2nd best offensive player on the IL is promising to more consistency
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on March 29, 2025, 12:34:00 AM
I didn't think you had enough to overturn the home run for the dodgers, but then you also don't have enough to overturn that,
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on March 29, 2025, 12:34:24 AM
I didn't think you had enough to overturn the home run for the dodgers, but then you also don't have enough to overturn that,
Never mind, I forgot you were dealing with the Dodgers.  I was trying to be rational, MLB is trying to make money
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on March 29, 2025, 12:39:48 AM
Dodgers wine and cheese crowd booing everything on cue.  LA baseball fans are doing their best to not let Boston and Philly corner the market on awful fanbases
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on March 29, 2025, 01:04:52 AM
That's one of those that if it was game two of an NFL season, the terrible call would be analyzed all week, instead it's just another bad call in a 162 game season that will be forgotten 
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 29, 2025, 03:45:54 AM
Dodgers have like a 49% chance at going 162-0.  :57:
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: CatsbyAZ on March 30, 2025, 12:33:36 PM
Was watching highlights yesterday, and noticing the Rays playing home games outdoors, I realized I'd forgotten that two MLB franchises will play their home games in a semi-pro ballpark (A's) and a spring training stadium (Rays).

George M. Steinbrenner Field in Tampa will host the Rays. Capacity seating = 11,026

(https://i.imgur.com/TkiRnsP.png)

Sutter Health Park in Sacramento, home of the Triple-A River Cats, will host the A's. Capacity seating = 14,014

(https://i.imgur.com/Og9jdaD.jpeg)

Both stadiums are nicer than where the Rays and A's originally played. And both franchises weren't well attended, so the lower seating capacities play into the lower demand.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 30, 2025, 07:20:42 PM
Sellout?  What's that?!?  

The Rays had 4 days to Ray-ify that ballpark.  It's across the street from the Bucs stadium and a strip club (although everything in Tampa is across from a strip club).
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on March 30, 2025, 08:33:33 PM
Sellout?  What's that?!? 

The Rays had 4 days to Ray-ify that ballpark.  It's across the street from the Bucs stadium and a strip club (although everything in Tampa is across from a strip club).
I was going to say, at no point in Tampa are you more than a block away from a Hooters, outback steakhouse, or a strip club.  Hitting all 3 is a Tampa bar crawl
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 30, 2025, 09:34:35 PM
I'm in
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 30, 2025, 10:26:40 PM
New torpedo bats drew attention when the New York Yankees hit a team-record nine homers that traveled a combined 3,695 feet on Saturday.

Using a strikingly different model in which wood is moved lower down the barrel after the label and shapes the end a little like a bowling pin, Paul Goldschmidt, Cody Bellinger, Austin Wells, Anthony Volpe and Jazz Chisholm Jr. homered in New York’s 20-9 rout of the Milwaukee Brewers.

The Yankees hit four more homers in a 12-3 win Sunday and their 15 homers through the first three games matched the 2006 Detroit Tigers for the most in major league history.

“That’s just trying to be the best we can be,” manager Aaron Boone said Sunday. “That’s one of the things that’s gotten pointed out. I say to you guys all the time, we’re trying to win on the margins and that shows up in so many different ways.”


(https://i.imgur.com/KhTDtoQ.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 01, 2025, 10:34:42 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/iAg1U46.png)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on April 02, 2025, 12:59:28 PM
NY Yankees scored 20 in their 2nd game of the season.  NY Giants didn't score 20 til their 3rd game, and not at home until November
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 03, 2025, 11:16:57 PM
Dodgers were down 5-0, likely to take their first L.  Nah.  6-5 win.  Maybe a 49.1% chance of going 162-0.  haha
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 04, 2025, 09:44:18 PM
After an 8-0 start, the Dodgers' chances of going 162-0 are gone. 
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on April 05, 2025, 04:23:35 PM
The entire AL West has a negative run differential.

White Sox are already dead last in the AL at 2-6 despite only a -4 run differential, which is tied with the 6-2 Rangers, who lead the AL West
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on April 05, 2025, 04:24:12 PM
After an 8-0 start, the Dodgers' chances of going 162-0 are gone.
And now in a 3 way tie in the loss column in the division
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on April 08, 2025, 12:40:27 AM
Albert Pujols might have dethroned Tiki Barber as most disappointing transition to analyst
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on April 08, 2025, 08:43:00 AM
Ah nothing like waking up to a hot cup of black coffee and a dusting of snow on the ground.....for the opening day of baseball in Cleveland. No worries though the mercury is going to shoot up to 32° - good times
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 17, 2025, 02:12:26 PM
Chicago in a few weeks. Bought White Sox tickets. Can't believe how rock-bottom the prices are. As low as TWO dollars and only FIVE for the lower bowl are like prices from the 1960s! ⚾

5 minutes before first pitch for White Sox Vs Oakland A’s:

(https://i.imgur.com/6DGNvzO.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 17, 2025, 02:31:12 PM
What did you eat?
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 18, 2025, 07:53:27 AM
We have our "reunion game" Sunday, usually the only game I attend in person.  That means most of the Fantasy Camp folks and coaches show up in a "suite" to have lunch (not very good) and banter about some (which is fun) and watch the game.  The "suite" is far from being luxury anything, the food is typical dogs and burgers etc.  They do have "free beer".  It's nice to see the guys but we keep up with each other through the year pretty much.

I think the Bravos started 0-9 but lost their shot at a defeated season by winning a handful.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: CatsbyAZ on April 18, 2025, 09:52:36 AM
What did you eat?

A Bavarian Pretzel w/ hot mustard, and cracker jacks. The box of cracker jacks ($4) was twice the price of the ticket.

The White Sox lost 8-0 to the A's. Their lineup is hopelessly awful; only TWO batters are hitting over .200. 

Cool stadium but not much to root for for the 10,000 fans in attendance yesterday. The timing of the afternoon game worked out; once the game ended around 4PM it started raining.


(https://i.imgur.com/BwnQcp7.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 18, 2025, 10:08:59 AM
That doesn't look like 10,000.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 18, 2025, 10:30:10 AM
They may have sold 10,000 tickets and had 758 show for the game.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on April 19, 2025, 03:39:11 PM
Tigers-Royals game today took 2:02.

Baseball is my favorite sport, and yet I will still hear no pitch clock rules slander
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on April 19, 2025, 09:42:05 PM
Just left As v Brewers are shade over 2hrs.  My kids noticed how brisk it was.  Now we hit a late dinner. Perfect  
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: longhorn320 on April 20, 2025, 03:18:51 AM
Tigers-Royals game today took 2:02.

Baseball is my favorite sport, and yet I will still hear no pitch clock rules slander
not from me but I do have a gripe

The extra innings rule starting with a man on 2nd should go away
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 20, 2025, 03:39:50 AM
not from me but I do have a gripe

The extra innings rule starting with a man on 2nd should go away
It's a math thing.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 20, 2025, 08:28:50 AM
I don't know the prevailing top strategy for the man on second deal.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 20, 2025, 02:52:42 PM
a seeing eye single
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 24, 2025, 04:50:00 PM
I watched these guys growing up, when baseball was baseball.

Baseball’s Lost Legends: 15 Stars Who Deserved Better (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/baseball-s-lost-legends-15-stars-who-deserved-better/ss-AA1DyUGT?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=4b7092bc114a415b8a94c218c139b66d&ei=14#image=1)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: SFBadger96 on April 24, 2025, 09:06:20 PM
Vida Blue and Bobby Bonds are definitely not forgotten here in the Bay Area. I know a lot of those other guys, though not all of them. That Dave Parker throw in the All-Star game was a thing of beauty.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 25, 2025, 09:21:10 AM
Folks have this notion that failing short of the HoF is somehow a big negative.  I understand "they" want to keep its exclusivity, but for players like Dale Murphy and Andruw Jones, it's a recurring question that has to make them feel bad.  I've met both and listened to how they respond to such questions.  Do these players "deserve better"?  Maybe.  

All  the players who ever played MLB would not fill an MLB stadium.  Just to play MLB is a thing.

I know Steve Avery pretty well.  Before his injuries he was one of the best left handed pitchers in the game, but his arm gave out.  He's a pretty neat guy, doesn't dwell on what might have been, he pitched in MLB with a lot of success.

There are myriad stories like these, players who had great careers cut short, or just didn't quite make the Hall.  Remembering them is what should be done, not criticizing whatever for not getting top recognition.

But we humans have to have our "rankings" to argue about.

Incidentally, Dale Murphy is hilarious.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 25, 2025, 09:27:31 AM
such as "who's the best golfer w/o a major?
who's the best 3rd basemen NOT in the hall?
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on April 25, 2025, 09:43:30 AM
such as "who's the best golfer w/o a major?
who's the best 3rd basemen NOT in the hall?
Graig Nettles or Darrell Evans
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 25, 2025, 09:50:31 AM
I'd go with Nettles with that choice
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on April 25, 2025, 08:44:13 PM
If not Nettles I'd go Sal Bando or Cey.   Buddy Bell but not sure he's enough 3b.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 25, 2025, 11:01:29 PM
Cey was a Dodger and a penguin so, no
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 26, 2025, 08:32:50 AM
A penguin dodging trolleys in Brooklyn would be quite a sight.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on April 26, 2025, 10:19:05 AM
Didn't say I liked Cey at all.

Nettles has some huge home v road splits.

I'm not a big Hall guy anyways.   
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 26, 2025, 10:19:52 AM
I liked Cey more than most Dodgers
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 26, 2025, 10:55:18 AM
Ron Cey's rookie card is the same as Mike Schmidt's rookie card.  One of those rookie trio cards.  
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 26, 2025, 10:56:11 AM
The Cey Hey Kid?
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 26, 2025, 02:43:03 PM
The Cey Hey Kid?
Not quite.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 26, 2025, 10:16:19 PM
not even close
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on April 27, 2025, 09:28:43 AM
I spot watched off and on the Braves last night, they are ... interesting, I guess, a bit, started the year 0-7 and are still missing a couple top players.

I do think teams that buy their rosters are going to kill off baseball in smaller markets, in effect, maybe the teams linger but everyone knows they won't be competitive.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 27, 2025, 10:00:47 AM
I get your meaning, but that's how baseball has always been.  Different franchises sucked for decades at a time.  With the near-random outcomes of short series, spending tons of money only gets you a playoff spot.  KC was acting like a farm team for NYY for awhile there, through FA.

But yeah, it's getting more extreme, for sure.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on May 11, 2025, 07:29:14 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/NMWDmLX.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 11, 2025, 10:45:37 AM
The Braves went into extras with the Pirates and took the lead on a wild pitch with a man on third.  The baseball barely missed the batter and his bat.  

The Braves like extra inning games apparently.

After last night's walk-off win brought Atlanta their second extra inning win in three days, their season record in extras improved to 4-0. Surprisingly, the Braves' have been the best team in baseball since this rule was implemented. Since the ghost runner rule began to be enforced in 2023, Atlanta has a major league best record of 24-8.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on May 14, 2025, 07:53:49 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Rp91pMR.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: CatsbyAZ on May 15, 2025, 11:10:44 AM
Padres games last night. 5-1 over the Angels. Bucket Hat giveaway night.

(https://i.imgur.com/9CA9EIk.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: slugsrbad on May 16, 2025, 06:43:38 PM
https://twitter.com/mlb/status/1923506061765382653?s=46&t=e2ReDV-yjo7MPCzlX2TjVA
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 21, 2025, 10:25:44 AM
https://twitter.com/mlb/status/1923506061765382653?s=46&t=e2ReDV-yjo7MPCzlX2TjVA
(https://i.imgur.com/nMMCymE.png)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on May 22, 2025, 06:14:31 PM
At what point will Cleveland run out of black magic?

It's an annual thing.

Looked at some of the stats.  Bottom 5 in the AL in BA, OPS, runs scored, ERA, WHIP, walk rate.  Have the 5th worst run differential.

Yet sitting there 4 games over .500.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: CatsbyAZ on May 24, 2025, 10:40:47 AM
Angels game last night. 7-4 win over the Marlins. First time in Angel stadium.

(https://i.imgur.com/0edb9gg.png)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on May 27, 2025, 12:04:53 PM
Minneapolis Millers phenom Willie Mays was in a movie theater in Sioux City, Iowa on this date in 1951 when he received a message to report back to the team hotel. The New York Giants were calling him up to the majors!

The Giants took out a full-page ad in the Minneapolis paper apologizing for taking Mays away 🤣

In 35 games with the Millers, Mays hit .477 with eight home runs, 30 RBI, and 38 runs scored. The Giants went to the World Series, and Mays won National League Rookie of the Year.


(https://i.imgur.com/kVg7CVJ.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: CatsbyAZ on May 28, 2025, 11:02:55 AM
Another game last night. Padres fell down 6-0 in the first inning to the Marlins, before scoring in the next five consecutive innings to take the lead and hold on to win 8-6. Three untimely errors from the Marlins rookie second baseman Ronny Simon allowed Padres baserunners to advance and eventually score. He was pulled in the fifth inning. Packed stadium thanks to Hoodie giveaway night. Unless you're a bobblehead collector, the hoodie is the most anticipated annual giveaway.



(https://i.imgur.com/lyeWEcH.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on May 28, 2025, 11:32:41 AM
At what point will Cleveland run out of black magic?
Well back in the Day when they were perenial cellar dwellers we called it The JUNE SWOON. And like the Swallows to San Juan Capistrano or the Buzzards to Hinkley,Ohio you could count it.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on May 28, 2025, 11:37:49 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/kVg7CVJ.jpeg)
 someone had that very shirt or a similar one on the Antique Road Show had his name stitched on the inside of the collar too. It was appraised at like 20-30 grand if i remember right
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on May 29, 2025, 01:37:29 PM
One of the baseball podcast I listen to does a "Summer Score"  The argument is that baseball was never like football.  It wasn't supposed to be live and die game to game.  It was about having a fun summer.  So for every day teams get points, if they are currently in a playoff spot.  1 point from Memorial Day-July 3.  2 points from 4th of July-August.  3 points from August 1-Labor Day

I kind of like the concept for doing what it's supposed to do.  It's just saying who had a fun summer.  The Tigers had an amazing run last year.  The summer was bleh.  I found myself often watching other games.  It also seems like its from a prior era, when baseball became America's Pastime.  You had teams win 95 games and finish 15 games out of the pennant, so was that enjoyable.  But I do feel like that's the right lens to view baseball through
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 03, 2025, 08:47:23 AM
It's been a historic season for the Colorado Rockies, but not in a good way.

The Rockies lost 5-3 to the New York Mets on Sunday, dropping their eighth consecutive game to move to 9-50 on the season. That marks history, as Colorado is now the first team in the modern era to lose 50 games before winning 10.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 03, 2025, 08:56:16 AM
The White Sox are thankful.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 03, 2025, 10:40:39 AM
At what point will Cleveland run out of black magic?

It's an annual thing.

Looked at some of the stats.  Bottom 5 in the AL in BA, OPS, runs scored, ERA, WHIP, walk rate.  Have the 5th worst run differential.

Yet sitting there 4 games over .500.
I'd say overall, not until they change divisions.  The AL Central is mediocre central.  The Tigers have woken up, but still, there's plenty of room for CLE to make the postseason.
Both the AL and NL centrals have been kind of shit.  They've lacked peak teams, for sure, so CLE and STL/MIL have by-and-large just annually won it with like 90 wins each year.  
Don't get me wrong, the AL West has been and is a dumpster fire without the Astros' peak, but still.  You can count on the centrals to be mediocre year after year.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on June 03, 2025, 06:00:48 PM
Royals call up Jac Caglianone.

First Royal 1st round draft pick to be called up within a year since Bo Jackson
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 04, 2025, 09:43:42 AM
https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1930066924601295178 (https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1930066924601295178)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 04, 2025, 09:44:42 PM
Royals call up Jac Caglianone.

First Royal 1st round draft pick to be called up within a year since Bo Jackson
Go Gators!
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 05, 2025, 08:45:23 AM
The Braves are not very good this season.  Film at 11.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 19, 2025, 02:42:48 PM
A rare play, in Wednesday’s 5-0 win over the Mets the Braves scored one of their runs on a catcher’s balk 

If a catcher uses a piece of equipment (like a mask or glove) that is not properly worn to stop a batted or pitched ball, it's a violation.

(https://i.imgur.com/N3pCOvi.png)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on June 19, 2025, 03:20:11 PM
The Braves are not very good this season.  Film at 11.
The other side to signing all of your studs to team friendly deals is that it opens you up to sign free agents.  Feels like the Braves have just stood pat for like 3 years now
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 19, 2025, 03:21:34 PM
In 2025, the Atlanta Braves are ranked eighth in Major League Baseball in terms of payroll, with a total of $209,806,783, according to Spotrac.com (https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/atlanta-braves/overview). This is a slight decrease from their sixth-place ranking in 2024 with a payroll of $236,433,901, 
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on June 19, 2025, 03:24:54 PM
In 2025, the Atlanta Braves are ranked eighth in Major League Baseball in terms of payroll, with a total of $209,806,783, according to Spotrac.com (https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/atlanta-braves/overview). This is a slight decrease from their sixth-place ranking in 2024 with a payroll of $236,433,901,
That's more than a slight decrease.  That's more than the value of their top signee.  They hit on so many top prospects, and then locked them into team friendly deals.  But they didn't retain Max Fried for $14.5 million?  Their payroll still would have dropped if they had kept him as their #2.  Instead he's the Yankees #1
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 19, 2025, 03:26:06 PM
Yeah, I wanted to keep Fried a lot.  Their main problem his year is scoring runs.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 19, 2025, 03:52:11 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/9uoJ4lj.png)

These days they pull starters after 5-6 innings, so someone might someday match this.

They pulled Sale last night with a 5-0 lead after 8 2/3rds with a guy on first and two out, 116 pitches.

Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 19, 2025, 04:55:52 PM
Maddux was sort of the anti-Nolan Ryan.  Ryan struck everyone out and also allowed the most walks of all time.
Maddux was average at striking batters out, but didn't walk people.  Neither gave up many HRs.

Maddux:  
HR%:  1.7
K%:   16.5
BB%: 4.9
So if you look at it, his teammates got to be in the game and make lots of plays. 
HR + K + BB = 23.1%
Balls in play = 76.9%
.
Ryan:
HR%:  1.4
K%:   25.3
BB%: 12.4
HR + K + BB = 39.1%
Balls in play =  60.9%
.
It must've been pretty boring playing behind Nolan Ryan.  
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 27, 2025, 10:59:10 PM
“Rod Carew Jersey Day” on this date in 1977 is one of the most noteworthy regular season games in Twins history. On a sweltering summer day, the man himself, Rod Carew, went 4-for-5 with a home run, raising his average to .403 to the elation of the only sellout crowd of the season. Carew also knocked in six runs and scored a team record five runs in the 19-12 win over the White Sox. Carew finished the season batting an incredible .388 and was named the American League's Most Valuable Player.

Right fielder Glenn Adams, meanwhile, set a team record with eight runs batted in. He had six RBI after just two innings, on a two-run double and grand slam. He went 4-for-5 altogether, adding an RBI single and sac fly. (Adams drove in Carew three times in the game.)

(https://i.imgur.com/ghbS8hW.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on July 03, 2025, 05:45:46 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1940848691319079060
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 03, 2025, 06:26:14 PM
Mayyyybe we don't need to bet on EVERYTHING.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 03, 2025, 06:26:47 PM
Kershaw getting his 3,000th K last night was a whole big thing.  I don't recall it being so with Verlander or Scherzer.  
Was it?
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on July 03, 2025, 06:29:40 PM
I thought the same.  But all with one team, which happens to be the second most iconic, i  the second largest market.  Verlander did it with Houston, and Max was on his 4th team
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 03, 2025, 06:51:17 PM
Mayyyybe we don't need to bet on EVERYTHING.
I'd be fine with making gambling illegal
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 03, 2025, 06:52:35 PM
I'd be fine with making gambling illegal
Then how will foolish people squander their money?!?!!?
Oh right, the lottery.
Nevermind.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 03, 2025, 06:54:18 PM
lottery is gambling

(https://i.imgur.com/2UkBSe5.png)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on July 03, 2025, 10:20:21 PM
lottery is gambling

(https://i.imgur.com/2UkBSe5.png)
Ive wasted money on worse 
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 03, 2025, 11:33:40 PM
boy howdy
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 03, 2025, 11:50:52 PM
Okay, if the lottery is gambling, then it's the worst possible bet a person can gamble on.  

Right up the "I'm not good at math" crowd's alley, I guess.
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Post by: FearlessF on July 03, 2025, 11:56:16 PM
you can't win if you don't play
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Post by: longhorn320 on July 05, 2025, 12:42:34 AM
Astros take out the dodgers by an 18 to 1 score


amazing
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 05, 2025, 11:25:02 AM
you can't win if you don't play
That's the secret to holding onto your money.  Don't play.
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Post by: FearlessF on July 05, 2025, 04:40:17 PM
it shouldn't b a secret but................
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Post by: ELA on July 05, 2025, 07:37:05 PM
War Games knew the answer all along
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Post by: FearlessF on July 07, 2025, 04:20:42 PM

July 5th
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These two teams have the same number of wins this season


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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 07, 2025, 07:25:23 PM
Yeah, one of them had a top-12 draft pick for the past 7 years, lol.  
The Dodgers have 2 different relievers who make more than Skubal, who's still in arbitration years.
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Post by: FearlessF on July 07, 2025, 09:18:32 PM
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Post by: ELA on July 09, 2025, 02:38:36 PM
Yeah, I'm not going to kill LA for both developing well, and then spending money.

LA also has like no healthy starters.  Which, when you have god money, you can afford to pay for guys to run into the ground, but one agent earlier this spring said he would never allow one of his clients to sign with LA, unless it was a contract he was good with being his last.  LA can do that.  But in the short term their pitching is kind of a mess.  And also Mookie Betts looks like a shell of his former self.

And then you check the standings, and even on a 5 game losing streak, LA has the best record in the NL, and the 2nd best in the MLB, so you can't really criticize the way they operate, any team would trade places with them in a heartbeat
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 09, 2025, 03:38:54 PM
Once LA had all the dollars to spend, they ransacked Tampa's front office full of smart people winning with no money and ever since, it's division titles and 2 WS championships.

And idk what the hell is wrong with Betts.  Unless it's an injury he's insisting on playing through, the only other thing is the position change.  But playing SS can't take THAT much out of you, can it?
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on July 09, 2025, 04:02:28 PM
Once LA had all the dollars to spend, they ransacked Tampa's front office full of smart people winning with no money and ever since, it's division titles and 2 WS championships.

And idk what the hell is wrong with Betts.  Unless it's an injury he's insisting on playing through, the only other thing is the position change.  But playing SS can't take THAT much out of you, can it?
Yeah, I don't blame LA one bit.  I kind of hope they inspire more teams.  Detroit had the worst development in the majors.  Everyone touted how much Dombrowski won every trade in the 2006-14 era.  But it wasn't like he was trading mid to low level prospects for studs.  He was trading the Tigers best prospects, they just all turned out to suck.  Andrew Miller reinvented himself as an elite reliever, and Cameron Maybin became a solid utility outfielder, but that was it.  I said that would bite them, and it did.  They had nothing in the barrel to rebuild.

In this era you need to be good up and down the board.  Having unlimited spending helps, but not like in the steroid era where you can just keep buying dudes who are going to be great until they are 40.  Spending mainly allows you to make mistakes.  But you can't just build a team in FA anymore, guys don't have enough good years left.  Phillies are probably the closest to trying it right now, and they've hit on every single signing.  And still never won a WS.  On the flip side, Baltimore had the best collection of prospects, arguably ever.  Their AAA team a few years ago was rated as the best minor league team in terms of future value, ever.  But even though none of those propsects totally flopped, only one was a pitcher, and he's been mid.  And they didn't spend a dime around them.  So they are what they are
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: CatsbyAZ on July 09, 2025, 04:05:36 PM
Once LA had all the dollars to spend, they ransacked Tampa's front office full of smart people…

They are not smart people if they willingly moved from Florida to California.

I kid, I kid! 🤣
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 09, 2025, 10:40:55 PM
I ask considering I know next to nothing about MLB...

But how much of this is due to not having a hard salary cap like the NFL? 
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Post by: FearlessF on July 09, 2025, 10:42:02 PM
HB

hole bunch
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 09, 2025, 11:09:05 PM
I ask considering I know next to nothing about MLB...

But how much of this is due to not having a hard salary cap like the NFL?
Exceeding the cap is very expensive, but there's like a reset button when you don't, so teams above it can sort of take a 1-year break from big spending in FA every 3 years (I think) to avoid the massive penalties.  I may be off, but it's something like that.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 10, 2025, 06:39:24 AM
F LA
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 10, 2025, 06:55:24 PM
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Post by: MrNubbz on July 11, 2025, 11:21:06 AM
Athletics Fireballer Mason Miller Unleashes Fastest Pitch of MLB Season

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That 104.1 mph effort, which on first blush reads like a misprint, happened on Thursday night in the Athletics' 5-4 victory over the Atlanta Braves. Sean Murphy was the unfortunate batter in the box at the time of the pitch, which resulted in strike three swinging.
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Post by: FearlessF on July 11, 2025, 11:30:12 AM
Nolan Ryan's fastest recorded pitch was 100.9 mph, clocked 10 feet in front of home plate in 1974. However, when adjusted for modern measurement techniques (measuring closer to the pitcher's release), it's estimated that his fastest pitch would be around 108.5 mph.

This video discusses whether Nolan Ryan actually threw 108 mph:

https://youtu.be/90nI3yFMbX0
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 13, 2025, 10:22:24 AM
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Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 13, 2025, 10:24:03 AM
I have wondered what they pay per ball.  They cost a lot more on line of course.  At Fantasy Camp, we start with a bucket of new balls per team, I'd guess 64 per bucket, and use them throughout the week.  They break out new ones for the CG.  By end of the week they are pretty scuffed up usually, which is nice for pitchers.  
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 15, 2025, 11:30:28 AM
Good news.

Rays owner Stuart Sternberg agrees to sell club for $1.7 billion, per report (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/rays-owner-stuart-sternberg-agrees-to-sell-club-for-17-billion-per-report/ar-AA1IE3Z7?ocid=BingNewsSerp)
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Post by: FearlessF on July 21, 2025, 09:07:38 AM
Second baseman Rod Carew stole home for the seventh time of the season on this date in 1969. He went 3-for-5 with an RBI and three runs scored altogether in the 9-8 Twins win in Game 1 of a doubleheader sweep against the White Sox at Met Stadium.

The single-season record for steals of home is eight by Ty Cobb in 1912. Several sources insist Carew rightfully should have had his eighth steal of home in Seattle on September 26, but the umpire—whose view was possibly obstructed—made the incorrect call. Carew started throwing stuff and got himself ejected. Manager Billy Martin was also displeased.

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Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 25, 2025, 02:31:19 PM
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Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on July 25, 2025, 02:43:07 PM
Is that real?  I can't imagine a worse way to watch a game
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Post by: Cincydawg on July 25, 2025, 02:47:10 PM
MLB Speedway Classic | Events | Bristol Motor Speedway (https://www.bristolmotorspeedway.com/events/mlb-speedway-classic/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22802041120&gclid=CjwKCAjw1ozEBhAdEiwAn9qbzVktYDHuH1EFSLSebuwNYsxU3QLi1O_UOleOjSEWUK8T7-4l-FKHDhoChm8QAvD_BwE)

The Atlanta Braves and the Cincinnati Reds will play at Bristol Motor Speedway on August 2, 2025 in what will be the first Major League Baseball game in Tennessee, ever. History will be made at The Last Great Colosseum.

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Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 26, 2025, 12:17:50 PM
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Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on August 06, 2025, 01:26:34 PM
Florida, up 4-1, bases loaded, 2 outs, bottom of the 6th, just intentionally walked South Carolina's best hitter to make it 4-2.

Not sure I'd put the tying run in scoring position to avoid the chance of a grand slam
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on August 06, 2025, 01:28:25 PM
Florida, up 4-1, bases loaded, 2 outs, bottom of the 6th, just intentionally walked South Carolina's best hitter to make it 4-2.

Not sure I'd put the tying run in scoring position to avoid the chance of a grand slam
Next kid hit a bases clearing walk off double
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 06, 2025, 07:51:08 PM
Still seems odd to see Mike Yastrzemski at the plate.   Just raked a one hop ground rule double vs the Bosox 
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Post by: MarqHusker on August 06, 2025, 08:23:16 PM
Baseball may be the ultimate pro-sport with family lineage.   definitely makes one feel old.

of all the family trees of baseball, I still think the most ridiculous is Gladys Matta birthing three major league catchers (the Molina boys).  with due respect to the Delahanty family which had five siblings play in the big leagues and the O'neill's that had four.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 06, 2025, 08:43:15 PM
Never liked the  O' Neills
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on August 06, 2025, 08:45:32 PM
Baseball may be the ultimate pro-sport with family lineage.  definitely makes one feel old.

of all the family trees of baseball, I still think the most ridiculous is Gladys Matta birthing three major league catchers (the Molina boys).  with due respect to the Delahanty family which had five siblings play in the big leagues and the O'neill's that had four.
I actually have some thoughts/theories about this, that are way too late to go into now.  Tomorrow
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Post by: MarqHusker on August 06, 2025, 08:53:55 PM
there's definitely a survivorship bias to say nothing of general genetic/exposure bias behind some of this.  I'm just marveling at the fact that one woman birthed 3 of the approximately 2,000 or so ML catchers of all time.   
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 06, 2025, 08:55:08 PM
Genetics are real
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 06, 2025, 09:49:47 PM
Florida, up 4-1, bases loaded, 2 outs, bottom of the 6th, just intentionally walked South Carolina's best hitter to make it 4-2.

Not sure I'd put the tying run in scoring position to avoid the chance of a grand slam
You might be watching a rerun...
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on August 07, 2025, 10:14:37 AM
You might be watching a rerun...
No, it was live yesterday
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 07, 2025, 09:55:20 PM
Hmmm....what sport?  Cricket?
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on August 07, 2025, 11:11:45 PM
LLWS
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 08, 2025, 10:13:55 AM
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Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on August 16, 2025, 11:20:24 PM
Maybe, just maybe, the Guardians are reflecting their predictive metrics?  Particularly considering two of their better pitchers are suspended for gambling on baseball, as is tradition in Ohio. 

Theyve lost 2 in a row.  Atlanta has won 4 in a row.  Atlanta has +24 run differential advantage.  Yet Cleveland is 4 games over .500 and Atlanta is 13 games under 

The Cleveland monkey paw remains
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: SuperMario on August 17, 2025, 12:08:14 AM
Maybe, just maybe, the Guardians are reflecting their predictive metrics?  Particularly considering two of their better pitchers are suspended for gambling on baseball, as is tradition in Ohio.

Theyve lost 2 in a row.  Atlanta has won 4 in a row.  Atlanta has +24 run differential advantage.  Yet Cleveland is 4 games over .500 and Atlanta is 13 games under

The Cleveland monkey paw remains
Pretty sure I jinxed them tonight. Also discovered there’s a new insane lounge underneath the stadium that accompany the ground level seats. Sports are wild nowadays.

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Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on August 17, 2025, 06:24:41 AM
I still watch the Braves if I'm bored, I missed them last night, we had a friend over for dinner, which was nice.  They of course have had an almost historic collapse relative to recent years, but at least some of their young pitchers are showing something.  All five opening day starters have been on the DL for weeks, they are about to get one back soonish, maybe.  Their hitting has been most of the problem.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 17, 2025, 10:16:55 AM
I still watch the Braves if I'm bored, I missed them last night, we had a friend over for dinner, which was nice.  They of course have had an almost historic collapse relative to recent years, but at least some of their young pitchers are showing something.  All five opening day starters have been on the DL for weeks, they are about to get one back soonish, maybe.  Their hitting has been most of the problem.
I just listen to the Dodgers on the MLB app on my phone.  I feel as old as you are, enjoying the radio telecasts.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: SuperMario on August 17, 2025, 11:10:42 AM
Their hitting has been most of the problem.
which is mind blowing because they have a great lineup. They are an easy team to root for with a lot of likable guys. Ozuna, Albies and Harris all having down years and Acuna being hurt definitely hasn’t helped them.
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Post by: Cincydawg on August 18, 2025, 09:30:35 AM
Harris started hitting of late, at least.  Acuna is back in the lineup.  The rest of their power hitters are still down, and they had injury after injury, Riley remains out.  None of their season starting pitchers are pitching now (injuries).  One of those years, probably will cost some jobs in the coaching staff.

They did sweep the Indians.  It would be weird if they started winning now.
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Post by: FearlessF on August 18, 2025, 06:49:05 PM
they're all power hitters these daze, or should be

it's big fly or nothing
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Post by: MarqHusker on August 18, 2025, 08:43:58 PM
baseball on radio is wonderful.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on August 19, 2025, 06:35:16 PM
It's coming, Manfred essentially confirmed it.  I have yet to see a better plan, assuming it's coming.  16 team playoff is also coming.  So 4 division winners, plus next best 4, and hopefully they go to 5-7-7-7.  Baseball is random enough, the fact that it has the shortest series is insane

(https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/uploads/wp/2025/08/18213205/MLB_AL_realignment_map_V2.jpg)

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Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on August 19, 2025, 06:37:01 PM
baseball on radio is wonderful.
The only caveat is the quality of announcer is worse, because former players get pushed up the ranks too quickly.  Tigers have been lucky to have back to back elite radio PBP guys.  But we went through a horrible TV PBP era.  Listening to a lot of broadcasts, there are a lot of bad announcers out there.

Great baseball radio broadcasts are undefeated.  Current radio broadcasts are very dependent on the guy doing them
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 19, 2025, 06:58:01 PM
Never liked the  O' Neills
Ed says Hi!
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Post by: MarqHusker on August 19, 2025, 10:53:09 PM
The only caveat is the quality of announcer is worse, because former players get pushed up the ranks too quickly.  Tigers have been lucky to have back to back elite radio PBP guys.  But we went through a horrible TV PBP era.  Listening to a lot of broadcasts, there are a lot of bad announcers out there.

Great baseball radio broadcasts are undefeated.  Current radio broadcasts are very dependent on the guy doing them
That's a terrific qualifier. When I cruise around the dial for games, I definitely steer clear of some of the ex player led casts.   Some narrow exceptions to this but they are generally old as dirt former players, so some survivorship bias.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on August 19, 2025, 10:53:21 PM
Tigers with a walk off walk in the 10th, 1-0.

Not the game to sell baseball to your spouse on
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Post by: ELA on August 19, 2025, 11:03:45 PM
That's a terrific qualifier. When I cruise around the dial for games, I definitely steer clear of some of the ex player led casts.  Some narrow exceptions to this but they are generally old as dirt former players, so some survivorship bias.
Another reason its so hard to hate the Guardians, even though I should, is Tom Hamilton.  I think he does a good job knowing that,. particularly on the radio, he is speaking 95% to Cleveland fans, but still calling it straight.  I love Dan Dickersons voice for the Tigers, but he almost calls it so straight, Im shocked he doesnt do some FOX regional games.  Cubs, Blue Jays, Diamondbacks, Athletics might be my other favorites.

Worst has to be the Cardinals and White Sox.  Cardinals at least sounds like maybe a couple guys past their prime.  White Sox keep trottong out trash, and then when they stumble into a Jason Benetti, who called it his dream job, they run him off.  This organization actually paid Hawk Harrelson, to use his voice 
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 19, 2025, 11:23:04 PM
Expansion is tricky, because you've got to assume it's highly likely a AAA city is getting called up, so to speak.  So then you have 2 AA teams moving up to AAA, and so on.

Portland would need a retractable/permanent roof
Vegas has the A's
Charlotte is current AAA
Montreal?
San Juan is a non-starter, imo
Nowhere in Mexico is not going to happen (safety/infrastructure/elevation)
Nashville would work
I want to say New Orleans, but is that a 'major' city anymore?  And it would have the same weather issues as Portland/Tampa Bay
Salt Lake City...wouldn't that just be another Coors Field situation? 

As for AA moving up to AAA, Richmond, Hartford, and Reading PA have stronger attendance than most AAA teams.  And A+ Dayton has great attendance as well. 
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 20, 2025, 08:39:35 AM
I liked The Hawk. Benetti was better. 

Steve Stone is really good. Kept Hawk and Harry straight. That's not easy.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 20, 2025, 08:41:30 AM
agreed
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 20, 2025, 08:50:10 AM
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Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on August 20, 2025, 09:32:55 AM
Too much league swapping.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 20, 2025, 09:41:39 AM
make it regional - put em on busses
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on August 20, 2025, 10:16:34 AM
Why do we have an AL and NL today?
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on August 20, 2025, 10:46:22 AM
Id like to see the NL umpires come back w red blazers and exterior chest protectors.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 20, 2025, 10:49:36 AM
Why do we have an AL and NL today?
No need.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: SuperMario on August 20, 2025, 11:33:15 AM
MLB is selling out, so it's just natural to realign and eliminate AL & NL. Just like it was natural to put a pitching clock, start runners on 2nd in extra innings and limit how many times you an attempt to pick a player off first. It's why the Guardians removed 10,000 seats and added couches and bar areas. It's no longer about the game.. it's about it being "a cool place to hang out." So let's align everything so it's the cool and popular thing to do since tradition in sports is dead. 
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Post by: SFBadger96 on August 20, 2025, 11:59:25 AM
Take a look at that cheaters thread and tell me that tradition (including traditional rivalries) is dead. You and your OSU irritants seem to have something to say about that. ;)

MLB will--I presume--continue to protect traditional rivalries.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: SuperMario on August 20, 2025, 12:40:15 PM
Take a look at that cheaters thread and tell me that tradition (including traditional rivalries) is dead. You and your OSU irritants seem to have something to say about that. ;)

MLB will--I presume--continue to protect traditional rivalries.
Lol.. Please don't attempt to ruin this thread by stirring that pot here as well.  This thread doesn't know anything but baseball and we should protect that :)
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Post by: FearlessF on August 20, 2025, 02:52:26 PM
Amen
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 20, 2025, 07:50:10 PM
Too much league swapping.
They're swingers?
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 20, 2025, 07:50:54 PM
Why do we have an AL and NL today?
So they can play each other in interleague games, duh.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 20, 2025, 07:56:51 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/fV1epld.png)
Nope.

I agree with some of the recent changes. 
The pitch clock is simply getting the pace of the game to what it used to be.  It's actually enforced tradition.
The runner on 2nd in extras is a simple mathematical, prudent idea.  18-inning games aren't necessary.
Limited pickoff attempts is like the pitch clock - just getting the game and pace to what it used to be.  I love the additional steals and steal attempts.  Catchers have to actually be able to throw again!!!!
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But this?  This is madness.  You're the #1 sport obsessed with it's history and tradition.  Honestly, I'd do the opposite and get rid of interleague play.  If the Yankees and Mets want to play, win your leagues in the same year.  Earn it.
This has 6 teams going from the AL to the NL and Houston going back to the NL!  What!?! 
So yes, all the league-switching is outrageous....unless you just have a bunch more interleague play, in which there's no longer any reason to bother with leagues, as others have said.
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But the other thing is what in the Sam Hell are we doing with a bunch of 4-team divisions?!?  Are we trying to make sub-.500 teams an annual thing in the postseason?!?!  That's a mathematical certainty if you've got all these tiny divisions.
Sigh.
It's as if powerful, important people lack nuance and wisdom or something!!!
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 20, 2025, 07:59:13 PM
I could get on board with four 8-team divisions.  But that's not happening.  You have to pretend 25 teams are "still in it" going into August.
I hate pretending things matter when they don't matter.  It's sad.  It's unnecessary.  If you're in 8th place then take strides to improve.  Duh.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on August 21, 2025, 08:07:01 AM
I wonder what the driving motivation is in all of this could possibly be?
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on August 21, 2025, 08:13:55 AM
Each year we get a "free" ticket to a game, I mentioned this earlier, so we usually go, still have to pay $20 to park (no MARTA out there).  I'm obviously older than them thar hills, but the "game experience" in person is not at all for me.  My wife said it was fine for her.  "They" have turned the game into a family entertainment event with some baseball played in between the main parts of the show.  I much prefer watching on TV.

All this probably helps with younger folks and attendance, I get that.  It turns off anyone who fancies himself as a kind of baseball purist, which I suspect are a dying breed.  One "nice" thing about soccer is the sport doesn't have regular "rest periods", it just continues apace.

Granted, I hardly ever watch soccer even on TV though I pretty much know the rules and quasi-enjoy the game.  When I was a kid, going to a baseball game was a Big Treat (I grew up with few such events).  I'd religiously keep score on a program.  I ran across some of my old scoring sheets when I moved and was throwing things out, I kind wish I had kept one.  It seemed like a duty somehow for a 12 year old.

I suspect ancient folks like me recall how baseball used to be, some figment of our youth, and like our youth, we miss it.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 21, 2025, 08:33:15 AM
I wonder what the driving motivation is in all of this could possibly be?
Change the color of that text to GREEN, and it might be a hint.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on August 21, 2025, 08:42:07 AM
Yup.  I think we're the only country with green money, or the only major country.  Euros are multi of course, and different sizes, which makes some sense to me.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 21, 2025, 08:58:20 AM
Well the June Swoon is coming just a little bit later in Cleveland this year.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 21, 2025, 09:01:00 AM
I suspect ancient folks like me recall how baseball used to be, some figment of our youth, and like our youth, we miss it.
Check my tagline amigo
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: CatsbyAZ on September 03, 2025, 10:55:57 AM
Padres game last night for the Manny Machado basketball jersey giveaway. Vs the Orioles.

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Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on September 09, 2025, 12:30:50 PM
I was watching the Braves last night, which became less normal than usual for me for obvious reasons, and thinking "Why am I watching?  They are out of it."  Then I realized I enjoy the game itself independent of whether some team has good prospects of winning some trophy.

I think I enjoy baseball as a sport more than any other in terms of watching it.  

When the Braves are competitive, the tension starts to usurp that enjoyment.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 20, 2025, 11:42:56 AM
Kershaw pitches his final home game.  He officially replaces Koufax as the best ever in blue.  Koufax was just like Randy Johnson- it took half their careers to figure it out, and then utter dominance the second half.  Kershaw was great from the start.

He's started 450 games and will retire with fewer than 100 career losses.  Best win% of any modern pitcher.  
1 MVP
3 Cy Youngs, 2 seconds, and a third.
Lowest ERA of any modern pitcher, besides Rivera, with more than twice his IP.
Nearly the same WHIP as Rivera, again in far more IP.
I mean Jesus, allowing baserunners at the same rate as Mariano Rivera as a starter for his CAREER.  WTF/!?

In my youth, there was Maddux, Clemens, Pedro, and Johnson.
In adulthood, there's Kershaw, Verlander, and Scherzer.  


Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on September 20, 2025, 02:27:50 PM
Nobody except Scott Harris is shocked that literally every hitter continuing to perform above expectations was not a strategy for the second half, particularly once 3/5 of your rotation was out for the season
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on September 25, 2025, 06:50:04 AM
 CLEVELAND (AP)George Valera hit a two-run homer in the third inning, José Ramírez had a two-run double in the seventh and the Cleveland Guardians became the first major league team to overcome a deficit of 15 1/2 games and take the lead in either division or league play, beating the Detroit Tigers 5-1 on Wednesday night.

(https://i.imgur.com/M6IhRJl.png)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on September 25, 2025, 09:01:01 AM
Cleveland voodoo magic is undefeated 
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 25, 2025, 09:22:20 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/wFUlDyf.png)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: SuperMario on September 25, 2025, 03:16:59 PM
CLEVELAND (AP)George Valera hit a two-run homer in the third inning, José Ramírez had a two-run double in the seventh and the Cleveland Guardians became the first major league team to overcome a deficit of 15 1/2 games and take the lead in either division or league play, beating the Detroit Tigers 5-1 on Wednesday night.

[img width=500 height=261.992]https://i.imgur.com/M6IhRJl.png[/img]
I'll be in house tonight! I think the most absurd part of all of it is how mediocre at-best their offense is, yet is 17-2 the last 19 games. This pitching staff is unreal. This is like the opposite of the 90's Indians where 1-9 in the lineup could mash, yet we had to try and win with aging Orel Hersheiser and Dennis Martinez and hope that Charles Nagy and Chad Ogea were enough.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 25, 2025, 03:29:09 PM
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Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 25, 2025, 09:47:39 PM
A catcher has 60 HR.

It's impossible.  
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on September 30, 2025, 02:14:14 PM
Cleveland monkey paw offense remains on their BS
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 30, 2025, 07:40:05 PM
As soon as DET got up 1-0, it was over.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on September 30, 2025, 08:06:08 PM
It's a 1905 WS postseason.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on September 30, 2025, 08:39:38 PM
As soon as DET got up 1-0, it was over.
The Athletic MLB show was discussing the Cleveland offense, and the weird narrative like they are overcoming a bunch of injuries or adversity.  it's just a very bad offense that they are winning in spite of.

Not only is it the worst OPS of any playoff team ever.  Its the 17th worst OPS of any team in the past 25 years.  The 16 worse, averaged a record of 61-101.  Their metrics are that of a 77-85 team.  I think you have to throw all conventional wisdom aside, and literally never pitch to Jose Ramirez.  He might not be peak roids Barry Bonds, but the gap between him and the rest of the lineup might honestly be wider.  If he doesn't get you, they literally have to rely on swinging bunts, and actual bunts.  I would truly never pitch to him.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on September 30, 2025, 08:52:11 PM
Well Cleveland went 8-5 vs the Tiges during the season
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on September 30, 2025, 08:56:49 PM
for frame of reference, the 1906 Hitless Wonders (CHW) won the WS with a team .230 BA,  or .230/.301/.286.    That's a .588 team OPS.

Cleveland  2025 at .226/.296/.373 for a .670 Team OPS.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on September 30, 2025, 09:28:07 PM
Hey we're in.......with one foot on a bannana peel
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: SuperMario on October 01, 2025, 12:22:57 PM
Hey we're in.......with one foot on a bannana peel
Our manager has both feet on the banana peel and has no idea how to manage his offense, nor his defense. Pitching, lights out. How he manages the lineup is absolutely mind-blowingly stupid and cost them the game yesterday. There was absolutely no reason to have Noel on the roster nor at 1B because he clearly can't even step on the base. Rodridguez should not have been in RF. He's not a good hitter and HORRIBLE in the field.  Today's lineup better, but they may have crapped the season away with absolutely stupid lineup yesterday which ruined a lights out pitching appearance. It's not easy to put out a better or equal performance to Skubal and Gavin Williams did and his manager played two clowns that shouldn't even be in the majors, let alone starting a playoff game.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 01, 2025, 12:43:33 PM
Not sure if this is where this belongs but, what an accomplishment:

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1FkJx5qdGf/
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on October 01, 2025, 02:41:07 PM
Cleveland, monkey paw, unreal

"Yesterday, the crowd was excited, because they knew they call was going to be overturned.  Today, muted, because they know this call is going to stand.  Oh, no, wow?!?"
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on October 01, 2025, 05:00:37 PM
Actually watching baseball for the first time all year. One, daytime sports are awesome. Two, it's actually on a channel I get. I swear I forgot baseball existed for much of the summer just because the games were buried on Bally's or something.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on October 02, 2025, 08:35:18 AM
Our manager has both feet on the banana peel and has no idea how to manage his offense, nor his defense. Pitching, lights out. How he manages the lineup is absolutely mind-blowingly stupid and cost them the game yesterday. There was absolutely no reason to have Noel on the roster nor at 1B because he clearly can't even step on the base. Rodridguez should not have been in RF. He's not a good hitter and HORRIBLE in the field.  Today's lineup better, but they may have crapped the season away with absolutely stupid lineup yesterday which ruined a lights out pitching appearance. It's not easy to put out a better or equal performance to Skubal and Gavin Williams did and his manager played two clowns that shouldn't even be in the majors, let alone starting a playoff game.
Good insights I haven't  paid as much attention with CFB in the mix.Well they got a reprieve with some offense - better late than never
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: SuperMario on October 02, 2025, 11:25:55 AM
Actually watching baseball for the first time all year. One, daytime sports are awesome. Two, it's actually on a channel I get. I swear I forgot baseball existed for much of the summer just because the games were buried on Bally's or something.
MLB app changed the game, at least for Cleveland fans. They were stuck with Bally's for a couple seasons and it was a complete scam. Went to strictly MLB app, outside of a few of the national games for $100 for the season. When we're talking about 150+ games, it's well worth it. The other thing that was an amazing adjustment, they stream the game with choice of audio. You can either stream tv broadcasters, or overlap the radio broadcasters. Also a huge win for Cleveland fans as there's only one Tom Hamilton in the baseball world. 
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on October 02, 2025, 03:07:06 PM
Saw this on another board: Ty Cobb got a bumrap
https://youtu.be/OjbPzoboilM
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on October 02, 2025, 07:38:50 PM
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Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on October 02, 2025, 08:38:52 PM
and at least one did it fair and square
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 02, 2025, 08:40:38 PM
I'm just glad the Dodgers beat the team they were 10 games better than over a sizeable 162-game sample size.  

Always feels good to win a coin flip.  
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on October 02, 2025, 10:37:25 PM
much better than losing said flip of the coin
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on October 03, 2025, 09:32:00 AM
and at least one did it fair and square
coming to finish off the Bengals this Sunday. All of Ohio belongs to us. Mwahaha!

https://twitter.com/bluebyninety/status/1974082770327515482
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: SuperMario on October 03, 2025, 04:17:51 PM
coming to finish off the Bengals this Sunday. All of Ohio belongs to us. Mwahaha!

https://twitter.com/bluebyninety/status/1974082770327515482
It's honestly weird to see Tigers' fans talking trash today.  biggest collapse of a division in major league history.  They beat seattle and make a run, then maybe some confidence, but winning a wild card series against a team that just came from 15.5 games to dethrone a team and take a division title from them.. kinda falls on deaf ears. 
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 05, 2025, 11:39:12 AM
Yeah, I know the Sox are terrible, but I can't resist.

(https://i.imgur.com/0rjG6en.png)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 05, 2025, 11:42:05 AM
This always gets a rise out of the Milwaukee contingent like @MarqHusker (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=41) !

(https://i.imgur.com/PYCDER6.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on October 05, 2025, 01:45:07 PM
Heh, setting aside fact I haven't lived there in 18 years.  This guy should wish it was true,so they could be a part of their broke ass city and state tax base.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 06, 2025, 09:29:14 PM
Dodgers tried giving me a heart attack.  Whew.  
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on October 07, 2025, 08:27:38 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/zGe2FOJ.jpeg)
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on October 08, 2025, 02:51:35 PM
Missed this last week.  Dodgers had to switch pitchers from Sheehan to Vesia mid AB due to injury, with a 1-2 count.  In response, the Reds pinch hit Andujar for Benson to put a righty in.

Vesia got the strike out on 1 pitch.  But the way Ks are counted in MLB, whichever pitcher gets the 3rd strike gets credit for the strikeout.  However, if the batter is subbed out after 2 strikes, the batter who took the 2 strikes takes the K.

So it's credited as a Vesia strikeout of Benson, even though they never faced each other. 

https://twitter.com/CincyNumbers/status/1973597507918897625
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on October 08, 2025, 09:53:05 PM
seems logical
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 08, 2025, 11:28:39 PM
Fucking Kershaw.

I know Philly is already going to win, but bloody hell, man.  
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 08, 2025, 11:45:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJBMm70kRgo
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: GopherRock on October 10, 2025, 11:48:58 PM
If you're still awake, turn on Fox. Tigers and Mariners are in the top of the 12th in a barn burner Game 5 tied at 2.
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on October 11, 2025, 12:33:17 AM
14th
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on October 11, 2025, 01:02:15 AM
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Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on October 11, 2025, 01:02:42 AM
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Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: FearlessF on October 11, 2025, 07:53:17 AM
damn, I missed it
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: ELA on October 11, 2025, 09:55:13 AM
Big winner in that is the Blue Jays.  Even I couldnt make it to the end
Title: Re: 2025 MLB Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on October 12, 2025, 11:34:15 AM
More baseball, yay!.

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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 12, 2025, 07:35:26 PM
I was hoping the Cubs would win so LA would have home-ballpark advantage.  Oh well.
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Post by: MarqHusker on October 20, 2025, 08:43:19 PM
I immediately thought of '78 World Series when this happened in the 1st inning tonight.  Of course, Lasorda didn't get the call.

https://twitter.com/TalkinBaseball_/status/1980430695731437922?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1980430695731437922%7Ctwgr%5Ee7a1d870619e917e572382d5f73683768b86b26e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fstory%2Fsports%2Fmlb%2Fplayoffs%2F2025%2F10%2F20%2Fjosh-naylor-interference-game-7-blue-jays-mariners%2F86809296007%2F


https://youtu.be/tvWKWvrVfrI (https://youtu.be/tvWKWvrVfrI)
https://youtu.be/tvWKWvrVfrI?si=UfQtBSBLx9xH6U-U
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Post by: ELA on October 20, 2025, 11:58:57 PM
Two extremely likable teams playing a hell of a series
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 21, 2025, 12:33:27 AM
It's too bad one of them has to face a buzzsaw.  
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 21, 2025, 07:43:28 AM
It's too bad one of them has to face a buzzsaw  (https://i.imgur.com/tkewe2J.png). 
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 21, 2025, 11:34:08 PM
$$$ is no match for the coin flip that is MLB's postseason.  We all know this.
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Post by: 847badgerfan on October 25, 2025, 08:05:51 AM
Go, Canada.
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 25, 2025, 12:30:05 PM
$$$ is no match for the coin flip that is MLB's postseason.  We all know this.
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Post by: ELA on October 25, 2025, 02:26:46 PM
I'm confused, the team with the better record winning at home = coin flip?
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 25, 2025, 02:55:00 PM
Well he just quoted himself then left no remark,you're not confused
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 25, 2025, 05:21:15 PM
I'm confused, the team with the better record winning at home = coin flip?
Sample size of 162 games vs a short series.  That's all. 

Here:  the Dodgers are just as likely to win the next 4 games as they were before Game 1.  Or Toronto is just as likely to do whatever the hell as they were before Game 1. 
Dodgers are favored over the team with the better record playing at home AND coming off a big win.  Hmmph.  :96:
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Post by: ELA on October 25, 2025, 05:27:49 PM
Sample size of 162 games vs a short series.  That's all. 

Here:  the Dodgers are just as likely to win the next 4 games as they were before Game 1.  Or Toronto is just as likely to do whatever the hell as they were before Game 1. 
Dodgers are favored over the team with the better record playing at home AND coming off a big win.  Hmmph.  :96:
Vegas loves tricking idiots.  Dodgers might still win with a team that was worse over 162 games, and without homefield advantage.  Because, coin flip.  But Toronto beating that ass at home ain't a coin flip, it's what 162 games proved.  If LA wins, coin flip.  Hell, they've already won 2 series as the worse team over 162 games, so they can certainly keep that going
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 25, 2025, 07:05:28 PM
Vegas loves tricking idiots.  Dodgers might still win with a team that was worse over 162 games, and without homefield advantage.  Because, coin flip.  But Toronto beating that ass at home ain't a coin flip, it's what 162 games proved.  If LA wins, coin flip.  Hell, they've already won 2 series as the worse team over 162 games, so they can certainly keep that going
If you believe this can be gleaned from one outcome,  you're the idiot being tricked.  C'mon, you don't really believe what you're saying here.  You can't.  Just bored and trolling.

Well whaddaya know......
(https://i.imgur.com/Jzm492L.jpeg)
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Post by: ELA on October 25, 2025, 11:02:31 PM
If you believe this can be gleaned from one outcome,  you're the idiot being tricked.  C'mon, you don't really believe what you're saying here.  You can't.  Just bored and trolling.

Well whaddaya know......
[img width=361.238 height=105]https://i.imgur.com/Jzm492L.jpeg[/img]
No, I believe that over 162 games Toronto was the better team.

Nice job by the 3rd best team in the NL winning the coin flip tonight
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Post by: ELA on October 25, 2025, 11:09:53 PM
I still just want to get this right.

The Dodgers outspent everyone.  But that doesnt matter, because the playoffs are random.  What matters is the 162 game regular season.  Until the Dodgers also dont win that.  Then its what Vegas thinks.  And if the Dodgers win, its because they are amazing.  But if not, its because the pkayoffs are a coinflip.  And its only a coin flip if the team that was better over 162 games wins.  If the team that was like 6th over 162 games wins, its legit, because Vegas knew they were the best.  And we all said that they were the best, because they outspent everyone.  But that might mean nothing because they might lose, in which case the playoffs are. dumb and random. 

Either way, excited to crown the Dodgers as the OAM champ yet again, where either they are the best team over 162, who loses in the coin flip playoff, or not the best over 162, but still the best, and the playoffs just proved it
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 26, 2025, 07:38:30 AM
You're like a Big Ten fan whining about SEC teams not playing 9 games here, with the payroll stuff. 

And you're surprisingly simple, calling Toronto the better team because they had a better record than LA, by one game.  Idk, I tend to give you more credit than the horrible take you have on this.

1 - Postseason, short-series outcomes are nearly a coin flip.  Of course this is true.  The lack of teams with the best record winning the WS is hot garbage.  The Brewers and Phillies say hi.  This is the #1 reason MLB has such a varied number of WS champions over the past however many years.  It's a math problem.  

2 - Payroll has nothing to do with this conversation.  It's a tangential whining tactic.  We can have that conversation, but it is a different conversation.  The Mets say hi.

3 - Valuing baseball teams' quality by W-L record and rating them with a few games difference is more limited thinking.  Toronto won 94 games to LA's 93?  Cool.  The Dodgers' run differential was nearly double Toronto's.  That's far more telling and accurate as a measure of team quality.

Open your eyes and stop turning off your brain over payroll.  You're exposing a blind spot you have. 
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 26, 2025, 08:35:06 AM
Each postseason series is a coinflip whether the Dodgers win or lose.  The 162-game season, while sports best sample size, still isn't "good enough."  But it is what it is.  Can't really complain about 6 months of playing 6 out of every 7 days.

This isn't about making up excuses for the Dodgers, either.  You really are bored, aren't you?
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Post by: ELA on October 26, 2025, 10:28:00 PM
I honestly dont care that much, I just enjoy watching baseball.  Like Ive always said, Im always on the side of entertainment.  Its just funny the way you always twist the narrative. 

The Dodgers are probably the best team.  They are the best team because they spend the most money.  Thats not something to be ashamed of   Every fan should wish their team spent the most money.  If that doesnt mean they win a WS, thats also fine
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 26, 2025, 10:43:15 PM
I don't know if the Dodgers are the best team.  They've been the favored team, even as the 3-seed in the NL.  Their starting pitching is obscene, which is probably why they've been favored in each series and yes, their payroll helped with that.

But the Brewers had the best season.  They now know the postseason is a coin flip.  My points about this are less about one team (LA) and more about the sport as a whole.  Your focus on LA is odd to me.

Take the Tigers.  They had a good season, especially for them.  Hopefully, they can remain strong and have many shots in future postseasons.  They had a sort of collapse, but erased that by beating Cleveland in the first round.  Coin flip.  They had a close series loss vs Seattle, the 2 seed, but that could have easily gone DET's way.  Coin flip. 

Last year was an outlier, having both 1-seeds make the WS.  LA could have easily lost to SD in the LCS (3-2).  Coin flip. 
In 2023, the 5 seed (TEX) played the 6 seed (ARI) in the WS.  All the coin flips.

All of the available data supports this. 
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Post by: MarqHusker on October 27, 2025, 10:57:20 PM
Bonds would never see these pitches.
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Post by: MarqHusker on October 27, 2025, 11:43:01 PM
Finally.   
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Post by: MarqHusker on October 27, 2025, 11:50:03 PM
I don't know if the Dodgers are the best team.  They've been the favored team, even as the 3-seed in the NL.  Their starting pitching is obscene, which is probably why they've been favored in each series and yes, their payroll helped with that.

But the Brewers had the best season.  They now know the postseason is a coin flip.  My points about this are less about one team (LA) and more about the sport as a whole.  Your focus on LA is odd to me.


The Brewers continue to learn,  quit limping into the playoffs missing arms, wounded arms and/or bats.   They sure dont help their coin flips.   
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 28, 2025, 12:14:40 AM
Free baseball tonight!  Ohtani with 2 HRs.  He's a cyborg.
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Post by: ELA on October 28, 2025, 12:41:36 AM
Great game, too bad its nearly 1 am
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Post by: ELA on October 28, 2025, 12:44:20 AM
Rooting for Toronto, but didnt want to see Kershaw give up a bases loaded walk there. 

Who is going to be available tomorrow?
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Post by: MarqHusker on October 28, 2025, 01:48:51 AM
scouring for prop bet for position players to pitch tonight.
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 28, 2025, 06:11:03 AM
You're like a Big Ten fan whining about SEC teams not playing 9 games here, with the payroll stuff. 
Ask the West Coast teams who routinely had HFA in the Bowls who have to come east now how easy it is.Or the SEC fans bumping their gums because  Northern alumni are pouring now legal funds into their programs outspending their good ole boy bagmen
                                                                                                                                                :67:
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 28, 2025, 06:12:33 AM
Free baseball tonight!  Ohtani with 2 HRs. He's a cyborg.
OK ya got one right - baby steps 🤩
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Post by: ELA on October 28, 2025, 07:22:15 AM
WS games ending at 3 am, well done
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Post by: FearlessF on October 28, 2025, 08:00:55 AM
I missed the ending
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 28, 2025, 08:10:39 AM
WS games ending at 3 am, well done
Hell I woke at 2:30 to take a leak I could have watched the ending
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Post by: FearlessF on October 28, 2025, 08:15:23 AM
that's why you check your phone, could be something of importance
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Post by: SuperMario on October 28, 2025, 11:19:45 AM
The strike called on Varsho in the 14th has no immediately made me change my mind on a system calling balls and strikes. One of the worst and most influential calls I have ever seen alter a series.
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Post by: FearlessF on October 28, 2025, 11:24:56 AM
we have the technology
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Post by: ELA on October 30, 2025, 09:04:50 AM
Yesavage is a bad man
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Post by: FearlessF on October 31, 2025, 08:06:13 AM
TORONTO (AP) — Mr. Splitty has returned.

Showcased by World Series Game 6 starters Kevin Gausman and Yoshinobu Yamamoto, split-finger fastballs have been used for 6.8% of postseason pitches this year, more than double last year’s 2.4% and up from 1.5% when pitch tracking started in 2008.

“There’s so many good pitches in today’s game — there’s so many good sweepers and sliders and cutters,” Gausman said. “I think the split is almost kind of a just a little bit different of an animal. You can recognize the spin and you can still have a pretty ugly swing on it if the metrics are right.”

Toronto used splitters a big league-high 9.3% of the time during the regular season, according to MLB Statcast. That was the highest percentage of any team since pitch tracking started in 2008, topping 7.8% by Minnesota in 2023 and Baltimore this year.
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Post by: MrNubbz on October 31, 2025, 09:54:57 AM
I thought he said "spitters" somewhere Gaylord Perry's ears perked up
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 31, 2025, 10:36:19 PM
Splitter, forkball, sinker.....all with the same goal.  
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Post by: FearlessF on October 31, 2025, 10:49:22 PM
game 7 would be good
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 31, 2025, 10:50:33 PM
game 7 would be good
Shhhh, it's too soon....
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Post by: FearlessF on October 31, 2025, 11:12:27 PM
called it
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Post by: MarqHusker on October 31, 2025, 11:29:23 PM
bad way to end that (for Toronto)
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 01, 2025, 12:48:53 AM
Wowwww.  2nd and 3rd with no out, TOR had a 44% chance of winning. 3 pitches later, 0%.  
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Post by: MrNubbz on November 01, 2025, 05:49:57 AM
That out fielder seemed positioned right
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Post by: FearlessF on November 01, 2025, 09:11:03 AM
base runner wasn't
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Post by: GopherRock on November 01, 2025, 01:26:01 PM
Outfielders also knew the SkyDome ground rules.
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 02, 2025, 02:07:56 AM
Wow.  Just wow!
Just from the 8th-on:
The HR from Muncy to get within 1 again
The HR from Rojas in the 9th to tie it
Yamamoto comes in
The Pages catch 
Will Smith HR

WHEW!!!
Great game.  Crazy game.  I'll always love baseball.  This was fun.  
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Post by: 847badgerfan on November 02, 2025, 07:12:49 AM
fLA.
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 02, 2025, 08:38:46 AM
Here's the Win% graph from the 9th-on:
(https://i.imgur.com/b14ctWx.jpeg)
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Post by: MarqHusker on November 02, 2025, 10:12:35 AM
The execution of defensive plays by both teams in ludicrously high leverage situations was amazing.  
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 02, 2025, 10:41:40 AM
Pages had just been put in for defense before making that bases-loaded, 2 outs catch, Mossing his own teammate in LF.
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Post by: MarqHusker on November 02, 2025, 11:42:29 AM
Lessons learned from John McNamara,  who wanted Buckner out there to be able to celebrate instead of Dave Stapleton.
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Post by: ELA on November 02, 2025, 12:15:47 PM
The execution of defensive plays by both teams in ludicrously high leverage situations was amazing. 
That's why I said best WS ever.  Not just because it was 7 games, with a few memorable ones, but it wasn't just a HR fest, like so much MLB is now.

High level defense.  Two great teams.  Absolutely crushing for Blue Jays fans.  The fact that it was them who lost and LA who won is the one thing slightly taking away from it for me.
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Post by: MarqHusker on November 02, 2025, 12:45:44 PM
Pages had just been put in for defense before making that bases-loaded, 2 outs catch, Mossing his own teammate in LF.
When it happened it was pretty funny too, an abrupt rearshot cutaway to Pages running out to CF.
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Post by: OrangeAfroMan on November 02, 2025, 12:47:02 PM
Yeah, the poor Jays, with the 5th-highest payroll lost to the big, bad Dodgers, with the 2nd-highest.  Real tragedy.

We should all continue laughing at the Mets.