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Title: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: Kris60 on January 24, 2025, 08:56:04 AM
First off, congrats on your team winning it. Hope y’all enjoyed the journey.  Speaking of which, I’m interested in how many people on here (or people you know) made the trips to the games.  I’ve always been of the opinion all these neutral site games are too much to ask fans to travel to.  Ohio St had to play in Pasadena, Dallas, and Atlanta to win it all.

Did anyone go to all 3?
Do you anyone who went to all 3?
If you went to one how did you choose which one to go?
If you attended a game is it rude if I ask what the ballpark amount it cost to go was?  Tickets, hotel, airfare, food, souvenirs, etc.

Just curious.
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 24, 2025, 09:30:11 AM
A retired person could make that a driving trip.
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: FearlessF on January 24, 2025, 09:43:10 AM
well, Dallas to Hotlanta wouldn't be bad
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 24, 2025, 09:46:39 AM
Yeah, I suppose. Not much to see between LA and Dallas unless you fancy stops in Phoenix and El Paso.
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: FearlessF on January 24, 2025, 09:47:47 AM
some folks find the Grand Canyon impressive
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 24, 2025, 09:51:25 AM
That's pretty out of the way.
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: SuperMario on January 24, 2025, 09:53:44 AM
Hope you don't mind me answering even though I'm not a Buckeye fan, but basically most of my friends and family and business partner are.

I don't know anyone that traveled to all three, but I know two groups that went to the final two games and 3 different groups that went to the championship game. A couple of them got ahead of the game and booked the flight prior to beating Texas. Their flights were under $200 from Cleveland. Those that waited until after the Texas had flight costs above $800. Hotel costs weren't cheap from my understanding either. 7-$800 per night and they weren't exactly high end hotels. I don't know a single person that paid under $1500 on the secondary market. I do know a Dr. couple that are alumni and they were able to get the tickets quite a bit cheaper directly, but that was the one off.

My business partner went with a group and they had a chance to get all you can eat and drink tickets in something called Molly's Club and they were $1500. They balked at it thinking they could wait a day or two and get them cheaper and ended up costing them $500 per ticket for worse seats that didn't include food and drink.  Not cheap.

That being said, when i priced out going to see Michigan last year with my wife, it looked like it was going to run 5-6k for flight, hotel and tickets. I couldn't justify it and it sounds like the OSU groups that I know that went down ran a little over 3k per person for the trip.
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 24, 2025, 11:36:27 AM
Hope you don't mind me answering even though I'm not a Buckeye fan, but basically most of my friends and family and business partner are.

I don't know anyone that traveled to all three, but I know two groups that went to the final two games and 3 different groups that went to the championship game. A couple of them got ahead of the game and booked the flight prior to beating Texas. Their flights were under $200 from Cleveland. Those that waited until after the Texas had flight costs above $800. Hotel costs weren't cheap from my understanding either. 7-$800 per night and they weren't exactly high end hotels. I don't know a single person that paid under $1500 on the secondary market. I do know a Dr. couple that are alumni and they were able to get the tickets quite a bit cheaper directly, but that was the one off.

My business partner went with a group and they had a chance to get all you can eat and drink tickets in something called Molly's Club and they were $1500. They balked at it thinking they could wait a day or two and get them cheaper and ended up costing them $500 per ticket for worse seats that didn't include food and drink.  Not cheap.

That being said, when i priced out going to see Michigan last year with my wife, it looked like it was going to run 5-6k for flight, hotel and tickets. I couldn't justify it and it sounds like the OSU groups that I know that went down ran a little over 3k per person for the trip.
That is EXPENSIVE and one of the things I don't like about the CFP. 

For reference, I went to:
The Rose Bowl trip was a family trip with my parents and brother so I didn't pay for that.  We drove. 

The 2002 NCG trip was a few years after I graduated and with my brother who was still in school so we did it on the cheap to the extent possible.  We flew to Vegas and drove to the game.  In Tempe we stayed with a friend of mine. 

The 2006 NCG trip was a package that I bought from the school.  I bought the single occupancy version because I went alone. 

The 2007 NCG trip was my brother and I again, we drove.  We met up with a friend in Tuscaloosa (had ribs at Dreamland) then drove the rest of the way to NOLA. 

The 2014 Orange Bowl was with my then girlfriend.  We drove.  

The 2014 CFP Semi-Final trip was with my (then girlfriend, now) wife.  We drove and bought the "gameday package" from the alumni association.  The gameday packaged included the game ticket and also a whole day of activities starting at 8 or 9 am with a riverboat ride on the Mississippi River. 

The riverboat ride was cool, they played Hang on Sloopy on the Colipe (sp?).  Archie, Brutus, and the Cheerleaders were on the boat with us. 

The "gameday package" wasn't cheap but it included a lot of cool stuff like the boat. Also within that:
When we arrived we got checked in and got bracelets then immediately encountered a waitress who asked if we wanted a Mimosa or Bloody Mary.  I replied that it was a little early to start drinking.  She then said the magic word, "it's included" to which I replied "I'll take two". 

Then there was an extensive breakfast buffet on the boat. 

The old way you had options. You could buy an expensive package or do-it-yourself on the cheap.  Now you are pretty much stuck with an expensive package because as @SuperMario (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1596) 's post referenced, airfare is a freaking fortune when you buy five days out. 
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 24, 2025, 11:58:17 AM
Now you are pretty much stuck with an expensive package because as @SuperMario (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1596) 's post referenced, airfare is a freaking fortune when you buy five days out. 
Just a pro tip... If you travel relatively frequently, buying tickets earlier (cheaper) and then canceling is an option, as long as it's an airline that you expect you'll have future travel plans on.

For example, I wouldn't bat an eye to book a speculative trip on American or Southwest, and then if my team loses, cancel. I'll use the refunded flight credits on either airline at some point. ESPECIALLY for Southwest--their flight credits never expire. 

I mean, in just the next year I'll expect to have to travel to Purdue and Texas to take my son on college visits, and to Hawaii for my wife's friend's dad's memorial service. If I'd been a fan of a team with a realistic opportunity to make it to the CFP title game, I'd have had high confidence that the flight credits would go to good use. 

All that said, it sounds like everything else is STILL ultra expensive... But if you're willing to commit to buying a ticket and staying at a hotel for the CFPCG that your team makes, and you have to cancel, whatever replacement vacation you're take is likely going to be cheaper than that! So the cost of the flight will go to another use.
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 24, 2025, 12:20:52 PM
Just a pro tip... If you travel relatively frequently, buying tickets earlier (cheaper) and then canceling is an option, as long as it's an airline that you expect you'll have future travel plans on.
That's where miles/points come in for me. On American, you can book with miles and cancel anytime for a full refund of those miles.

If Wisconsin were ever to make a run (doubtful) that is how I'd book things.
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 24, 2025, 12:40:09 PM
Just a pro tip... If you travel relatively frequently, buying tickets earlier (cheaper) and then canceling is an option, as long as it's an airline that you expect you'll have future travel plans on.

For example, I wouldn't bat an eye to book a speculative trip on American or Southwest, and then if my team loses, cancel. I'll use the refunded flight credits on either airline at some point. ESPECIALLY for Southwest--their flight credits never expire.

I mean, in just the next year I'll expect to have to travel to Purdue and Texas to take my son on college visits, and to Hawaii for my wife's friend's dad's memorial service. If I'd been a fan of a team with a realistic opportunity to make it to the CFP title game, I'd have had high confidence that the flight credits would go to good use.

All that said, it sounds like everything else is STILL ultra expensive... But if you're willing to commit to buying a ticket and staying at a hotel for the CFPCG that your team makes, and you have to cancel, whatever replacement vacation you're take is likely going to be cheaper than that! So the cost of the flight will go to another use.
That's where miles/points come in for me. On American, you can book with miles and cancel anytime for a full refund of those miles.

If Wisconsin were ever to make a run (doubtful) that is how I'd book things.
Thank you but that really wouldn't help me.  I haven't flown since I think 2018 and honestly might not ever again.  

Part of the issue for me is that I have four kids.  When you do the cost comparison for flying vs driving adding people to the car doesn't really cost you anything* so the more people are traveling the better deal it is to drive.  In my case, as a family of six, it is WAY cheaper to drive anywhere.  

*This isn't exactly accurate.  It depends on if the additional people cause you to take a less efficient vehicle.  

Example for my family, considering Florida for Spring Break:
Per a quick Google, round trip flights for our Spring Break week start at $428 (Spirit, it is over $800 on United).  The drive is 1,230 miles so at 25 MPG (my Suburban gets close to that) it would be ~50 gallons of gas so at $3.50/gal it would cost $175.  Ie, it would be $250 cheaper for me to drive to Florida by myself in my Suburban than to fly.  But while the other five passengers are basically free in my Suburban they cost $428 each on the plane so for the six of us it would be $175 to drive or $2,568 to fly.  

If I were going to Florida by myself or even just my wife and I, I might pay the extra $250 or $678 to save the time but I'm not dropping $2,500 for a few hours knocked off the trip.  
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: FearlessF on January 24, 2025, 12:42:28 PM
flying sucks

and the rental car in San Fran sucked

Hyundai with a 4-banger
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 24, 2025, 12:45:42 PM
Thank you but that really wouldn't help me.  I haven't flown since I think 2018 and honestly might not ever again. 

Part of the issue for me is that I have four kids.  When you do the cost comparison for flying vs driving adding people to the car doesn't really cost you anything* so the more people are traveling the better deal it is to drive.  In my case, as a family of six, it is WAY cheaper to drive anywhere. 

*This isn't exactly accurate.  It depends on if the additional people cause you to take a less efficient vehicle. 

Example for my family, considering Florida for Spring Break:
Per a quick Google, round trip flights for our Spring Break week start at $428 (Spirit, it is over $800 on United).  The drive is 1,230 miles so at 25 MPG (my Suburban gets close to that) it would be ~50 gallons of gas so at $3.50/gal it would cost $175.  Ie, it would be $250 cheaper for me to drive to Florida by myself in my Suburban than to fly.  But while the other five passengers are basically free in my Suburban they cost $428 each on the plane so for the six of us it would be $175 to drive or $2,568 to fly. 

If I were going to Florida by myself or even just my wife and I, I might pay the extra $250 or $678 to save the time but I'm not dropping $2,500 for a few hours knocked off the trip. 
IOW: Kids ruin lives. 
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 24, 2025, 12:49:11 PM
But more seriously, that's why I added the caveat of "if you travel often", and probably should have qualified that with "if you travel [by air] often". 

The advantage of being divorced is that when my wife and I travel, it's just the two of us and the kids are at my ex's place. More than likely if we were to go anywhere that included all three kids, it would be limited to places we can drive. 

But honestly, vacation with kids--especially young-ish kids--sucks anyway. It's like parenting at home, but with a LOT more work b/c you don't have all your own stuff available, and a LOT more expensive. 
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 24, 2025, 12:53:43 PM
IOW: Kids ruin lives.
I'm very happy they are no longer on my payroll.
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: FearlessF on January 24, 2025, 12:56:41 PM
me too

can afford toys again
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 24, 2025, 01:05:28 PM
Did they pay their own way to Frisco?
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: FearlessF on January 24, 2025, 01:10:24 PM
Hah!!!

I picked up the airline, lodging, and rental car.

They picked up most everything after we got there.

The trip was my idea.  They would have preferred something warmer with a beach.
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: SuperMario on January 24, 2025, 01:11:46 PM
Thank you but that really wouldn't help me.  I haven't flown since I think 2018 and honestly might not ever again. 

Part of the issue for me is that I have four kids.  When you do the cost comparison for flying vs driving adding people to the car doesn't really cost you anything* so the more people are traveling the better deal it is to drive.  In my case, as a family of six, it is WAY cheaper to drive anywhere. 


lol.. that's bold.. Since my brain surgery, i really struggle driving over 90 minutes at a time, so I almost don't have a choice but to fly. I drove out to BGSU right before thanksgiving and that wasn't easy and that was the two of us. I'm sound sensitive now, so there's no chance i could drive to florida with our 4 in the back seats.. NO CHANCE..  So i've just had to deal with the reality of flight costs. Family of 6 also takes a lot of hotels out of the mix unless renting a suite or two connecting rooms. So when we went to Disney last spring, it was cheaper renting a 10 bedroom house with a pool. 

Kids definitely add the element of "I have to figure out how to make more money." They definitely eliminate bold spending on areas that would now be considered selfish, like 6k for me and the wife to take in a single football game. Before kids i would have said I can't miss the opportunity to see Michigan in a national championship. Now I say, I can't justify that over taking the family on a vacation or setting that money aside to send them to my high school alma mater, which isn't cheap. 
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 24, 2025, 02:09:18 PM
Hah!!!

I picked up the airline, lodging, and rental car.

They picked up most everything after we got there.

The trip was my idea.  They would have preferred something warmer with a beach.
So, still on your payroll.


:96:
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: utee94 on January 24, 2025, 02:17:32 PM
Bribing your kids with a nice trip just to hang out with you, isn't the same as them being on the payroll.

And I can DEFINITELY see my future self bribing my kids with a nice trip on occasion... 

Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 24, 2025, 02:21:32 PM
Our youngest, his wife and three kids are coming down in May. No bribe.
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: utee94 on January 24, 2025, 02:57:52 PM
Our youngest, his wife and three kids are coming down in May. No bribe.

Well, you're obviously a much nicer father, than Fearless and I, are.
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: FearlessF on January 24, 2025, 03:36:15 PM
Our youngest, his wife and three kids are coming down in May. No bribe.
Are you providing lodging and meals?
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: FearlessF on January 24, 2025, 03:59:15 PM
Bribing your kids with a nice trip just to hang out with you, isn't the same as them being on the payroll.

And I can DEFINITELY see my future self bribing my kids with a nice trip on occasion...


Yup, kids are 28 and 30.  Been about 10 years since the last family vacation.   
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 24, 2025, 04:10:15 PM
Are you providing lodging and meals?
No. They rented the house next door from snowbirds.
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: FearlessF on January 24, 2025, 09:07:25 PM
nice work

and a bit lucky
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: Riffraft on January 25, 2025, 12:28:30 PM
Just a pro tip... If you travel relatively frequently, buying tickets earlier (cheaper) and then canceling is an option, as long as it's an airline that you expect you'll have future travel plans on.

For example, I wouldn't bat an eye to book a speculative trip on American or Southwest, and then if my team loses, cancel. I'll use the refunded flight credits on either airline at some point. ESPECIALLY for Southwest--their flight credits never expire.

I mean, in just the next year I'll expect to have to travel to Purdue and Texas to take my son on college visits, and to Hawaii for my wife's friend's dad's memorial service. If I'd been a fan of a team with a realistic opportunity to make it to the CFP title game, I'd have had high confidence that the flight credits would go to good use.

All that said, it sounds like everything else is STILL ultra expensive... But if you're willing to commit to buying a ticket and staying at a hotel for the CFPCG that your team makes, and you have to cancel, whatever replacement vacation you're take is likely going to be cheaper than that! So the cost of the flight will go to another use.

I use my southwest card for all my expenses, so I spend enough so my companion flies free with me  and generally earn enough points to regularly get my flights free also. 
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: Riffraft on January 25, 2025, 12:30:41 PM
Bribing your kids with a nice trip just to hang out with you, isn't the same as them being on the payroll.

And I can DEFINITELY see my future self bribing my kids with a nice trip on occasion...


In 2023 I took my kids on west half of the country on a cruise out of long beach and took the east half on a cruise out of charleston.  That was Christmas for them that year. 
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 25, 2025, 05:22:53 PM
Ohio State will travel fine, and they have plenty of fans that already live near each of the bowl sites. 

Round 2 should be home sites as well, not just round 1. 
Title: Re: Ohio St fans travel question
Post by: FearlessF on January 25, 2025, 05:41:17 PM
home sites are better and actually give a reward to those with the better seed