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The Power Four => Big Ten => Topic started by: Hawkinole on January 07, 2025, 11:48:25 PM
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Hawkeyes land South Dakota State University Jackrabbits' QB Mark Gronowski from transfer portal. He led the Jackrabbits to two national championships, a third national championship game, and to the semifinals losing to eventual champion NDSU in 2024.
Gronowski has thrown for 10,309 yards, and 93 touchdowns vs. 20 INTs. He is mobile, having run for 1,787 yards.
Gronowski grew up in suburban Chicago. His dad has an Iowa connection. His dad played QB for Drake. This is the best transfer portal acquisition since 5-star left tackle Kaidyn Proctor transferred to Iowa for the Spring 2024 semester, then transferred back to Alabama at the start of the Summer 2024. Iowa has to have tightened up its NIL contracts by now, one can hope.
We will see if Gronowski stays on for the Fall 2025.
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He must love the rural midwest.
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He must love the rural midwest.
Apparently the choice came down to one more year of college eligibility at the FBS level with NIL funding, or taking his chances in the NFL draft.
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A QB going to Iowa seems unwise.
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Gronoski is another one of those 23 year Olds that seem to have been playing for forever.
His freshman season was supposed to be in fall of 2020 but got postponed to spring of 2021 due to covid. Gronoski got hurt with an ACL in the spring 2021 FCS NCG and he ended up sitting out the entire fall of 2021 season.
Then he came back and led SDSU to national championships in 2022 and 2023. SDSU ended up losing in the FCS semis in 2024.
So 2025 will be his 6th year. He got both a covid year and medical redshirt year.
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I just read and article on a Chicago channel 5 sports website stating that Iowa's QB recruit Gronowski was being paid a 7 figure NIL deal. Gronowski believed this was better than going pro because if he were drafted and didn't make the team that wouldn't pay so well. According to him this was more of a gaurantee. Who knew college kids get paid this much from NIL?
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I just read and article on a Chicago channel 5 sports website stating that Iowa's QB recruit Gronowski was being paid a 7 figure NIL deal. Gronowski believed this was better than going pro because if he were drafted and didn't make the team that wouldn't pay so well. According to him this was more of a gaurantee. Who knew college kids get paid this much from NIL?
Also it turns out Gronowski is hurt, needs surgery, will miss spring practice, and is out until at least June.
Knowing this, it makes a little more sense why he is taking the NIL money from Iowa.
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His injury isn't mentioned in the Channel 5 article. I am aware and it definitely would subtract from his value in the NFL draft as he couldn't go through The Combine
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I just read and article on a Chicago channel 5 sports website stating that Iowa's QB recruit Gronowski was being paid a 7 figure NIL deal. Gronowski believed this was better than going pro because if he were drafted and didn't make the team that wouldn't pay so well. According to him this was more of a gaurantee. Who knew college kids get paid this much from NIL?
Carson Beck got $4 Million to transfer from Georgia to Miami.
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Carson Beck got $4 Million to transfer from Georgia to Miami.
Get your wallet out if you want to see the Badgers win, or should I say, get your briefcase out, because most of us would get sore sitting on Badger fans' fat wallets.
Who is paying for these NIL deals at Iowa and Wisconsin? At some point college athletic departments will incorporate. Their donors will become stockholders, and if the team does well they receive some kind of return on investment, even if only it is a little bit.
I am happy for the athletes. I had always thought they should be paid $100-$200 for laundry, alcohol, and pizza outings each month, and then years advanced, and so maybe $400 or $500 per month. But, no, the NCAA would not agree, and now we see the result.
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The Badgers don't have a megadonor and Wisconsin is a Packers state. They shop for the bargain bin players in Madison. Not a lot of fat wallets in Wisconsin.
In the current landscape, it's doubtful that Wisconsin will ever win the B1G again.
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The Badgers don't have a megadonor and Wisconsin is a Packers state. They shop for the bargain bin players in Madison. Not a lot of fat wallets in Wisconsin.
In the current landscape, it's doubtful that Wisconsin will ever win the B1G again.
I lean toward this position for all teams like Iowa and Wisconsin, but then we have outliers in the first year of the FBS playoffs. ASU presented well. Indiana made the playoff. I don't think Indiana's situation is sustainable longer term. It was a unique situation. However they could become the 1980s-2020s Iowa Hawkeyes, or the 1990s-2010s Wisconsin Badgers, with a Big Ten championship here or there.
Iowa seems distant from getting a Big Ten championship, too. That said, we had a logjam like this in the late 1960s through about 1980 with Ohio State and Michigan controlling things, and then it broke for about 25-years, until it started coming back and then tOSU and Michigan resumed domination almost full force, but with MSU breaking through once or twice. I think the NCAA will allow payments from athletic departments and limit the amounts of those payments. But the advertisers will brake the back of this parity, although as with the Caitlin Clark effect, if there is one really great athlete, he (or she) could be anywhere. It is very likely that in football that athlete will be in Ohio, Georgia, Texas, Alabama, or Michigan, and occasionally in California. We run a bit short on billionaire football fans here in Iowa.
I saw an article today that claimed Iowa's new QB NIL recruit - Mark Gronowski's surgery involved a shoulder injury on his throwing side.
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I just read and article on a Chicago channel 5 sports website stating that Iowa's QB recruit Gronowski was being paid a 7 figure NIL deal. Gronowski believed this was better than going pro because if he were drafted and didn't make the team that wouldn't pay so well. According to him this was more of a gaurantee. Who knew college kids get paid this much from NIL?
I think every P4 starting QB, or at least most of them, are getting 7 figures
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So now that Ferentz has won his 200th game at Iowa (October 12 win over Washington) how long does he stick around? I figured Ferentz was holding on until his 200th win, would then retire come the offseason, so now what?
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I think he needs a few more to pass Bo for alltime Big Ten wins
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He says he enjoys coaching and plans to coach in 2025. He will turn 70 Aug. 1, 2025.
While there is no known succession plan, Levar Woods would be the logical successor. Seth Wallace, assistant head coach and linebackers coach, was the acting head coach for Iowa's first game of 2024. Ferentz was suspended for that game because it was disclosed he had spoken to Cade McNamara before McNamara entered the transfer portal a couple years ago. I don't think that his assistant head coach designation would make Seth Wallace the most logical successor. Woods and Wallace are both 46.
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IOWA CITY — Iowa quarterback Brendan Sullivan has entered the transfer portal, a program spokesperson confirmed to the Register Friday. Pete Nakos of On3 was first to report the news.
Sullivan departs Iowa after one season in the Hawkeye program.
Sullivan posted the following message via social media:
"Hawkeye Nation,
I have loved and enjoyed every second I spent here. Thank you to the coaching and support staff, my teammates, and the fans. You have all made this an awesome experience.
After continued prayer and conversations with my family, it is in my best interest to enter the transfer portal for my final year of eligibility. Thank you, Iowa!"
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I don't really know what to say about him. I think he's an easy G5 starter, but a P5 package QB. So, good luck to him. I hope he finds what he's looking for.
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It might surprise some that the supposedly old-school Ferentz, who turns 70 on Aug. 1 and is leading the Hawkeyes for a 27th straight season, has been so receptive to some of the latest massive shifts in the college model. But, looking closer, Ferentz’s past comments have revealed his desire for a more NFL-style approach to the college game – including a salary cap of sorts, which would be coming with the proposed House vs. NCAA settlement that needs Judge Claudia Wilken’s final approval. The deadline for her ruling is June 27 but could come any day.
“I don’t see any signs of him slowing down anytime soon,” Tyler Barnes, Iowa football’s general manager/chief of staff and Ferentz’s son-in-law, told the Des Moines Register in a 40-minute interview on June 4. “He’s still working out once, if not twice, a day. He’s still one of the first ones in the office, last ones to leave at times. He enjoys what he’s doing.
That doesn’t necessarily mean Ferentz will be coaching for another 10 years. But with revenue sharing – where universities can pay players directly – expected to begin July 1, Iowa feels that its longstanding model of high school recruiting and development has potential to thrive. So why would Ferentz leave his $7 million-a-year job now?
Barnes’ title change from Iowa’s recruiting director to GM/chief of staff last August was a reflection of college football’s evolving times. Of the planned $20.5 million cap (a calculation derived from 22% of Power Four revenues) in player payments, the wealthiest programs – including Iowa – are expected to spend $14-$15 million on their football rosters.
For much of the last year, Barnes has been tinkering with numbers to develop Iowa’s ideal model of how much to pay its roster (which as of early June was at 106 players).
Unlike NFL salaries, what Iowa (or any school) pays its athletes will not be public. That also makes it harder to know what the market value will be for certain positions. But Iowa under Ferentz has always done things its own way. And in this case, Barnes’ approach was to study (and mimic) the most successful teams in the NFL, in which all 32 teams operate in a regulated salary-cap structure.
He gathered data over a 10-year period and examined the NFL’s eight best-performing franchises – the Kansas City Chiefs, Baltimore Ravens and San Francisco 49ers, as examples – and the eight worst-performing. Barnes wanted to understand if there were correlations in how they spent (or misspent) their money.
“Those top eight teams, all but one, they hit on a quarterback. And a really good one,” Barnes said. “Then you look at the bottom eight teams, they did not hit on quarterbacks.”
That’s something that we’ve heard Ferentz – at a recent Polk County I-Club event – and offensive coordinator Tim Lester talk about lately, too. Iowa needs to get better at this, and Lester’s obsessive focus on quarterback play should help.
The Hawkeyes, as their fans painfully know, have been poor performers in quarterback recruiting. Recent high school QB signees didn’t pan out and transferred to lower-level schools (Deuce Hogan, 2020, to Nicholls State; Joe Labas, 2021, to Central Michigan; Carson May, 2022, to Abliene Christian; Marco Lainez, 2023, to Elon; James Resar, 2024, to UNC-Pembroke).
Lester, Iowa's second-year OC, as of June 8 will have brought in one sophomore (Hank Brown) and three freshmen (Jimmy Sullivan, Jeremy Hecklinski, Ryan Fitzgerald) to learn his NFL-style system behind big-ticket transfer Mark Gronowski.
If at least one of them hits, that’s going to be – in theory – a major step forward in how Iowa can maximize its finances under the new structure. QBs are the costliest position at both the NFL and college levels. In the NFL, finding a low-cost rookie and developing him and eventually paying him is the best financial plan.
Yeah, Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson are getting paid enormous dollars now. But they didn’t begin their careers with robust price tags, which allowed their franchises to build a winning infrastructure around them.
“We want to hit on a high school kid rather than going to the portal every year for a quarterback,” Barnes said. “Because when you hit a high school kid, inherently they're going to be a little bit cheaper in the long run, versus a one-year or two-year rental as a transfer.”
Additionally, Barnes discovered, the bottom eight teams spent a disproportionate amount of dollars on edge rushers and cornerbacks – premium positions in the NFL but not necessarily at Iowa. That revelation was somewhat reassuring, because the Hawkeyes – with how they’re constructed under longtime defensive coordinator Phil Parker, the 2023 Broyles Award winner – aren’t inherently tempted to overspend in those departments.
“In the NFL, there's a lot of man-to-man corners, right? We don't play man-to-man,” Barnes said. “In the NFL, they're obsessed with pure edge rushers. We don’t necessarily run the same structure of a defense where we don’t need to worry about having a true edge rusher.”
Again, we’ll never officially know exactly where the dollars are going at Iowa.
But there are a couple principles that can be safely known and counted on.
No. 1: The Hawkeyes will spend to bolster the line of scrimmage
Maybe we’ve seen a hint of that in the 2026 recruiting class, which as of June 5 had five offensive-line commitments out of nine total. Last year’s College Football Playoff and Super Bowl also underscored the value of overpowering trench play. And, of course, that has always been Ferentz’s specialty as a former offensive-line coach.
“O-line and D-line,” Barnes said. “It starts up front on both sides.”
No. 2: The Hawkeyes will pay for production, not potential
The expectation is that Iowa’s veteran, proven players will end up getting paid. And younger players will have to earn it.
That approach makes perfect sense in how Ferentz structures his program. He sets high expectations of accountability and recruits prospects who are wired to meet them. That, ideally, is a way to also curb locker-room jealousy.
The better and faster a player develops, the more likely he is to get paid − both at Iowa and then, on a much richer scale, in the NFL.
“Our best, most productive players and top leaders on the team are going to make the most money,” Barnes said. “That’s how we're built. It's very hard for us to go out and grab a transfer at really any position and bring them in and pay them more than one of our top guys (who) is going to be an NFL Draft pick.
"If money's your driving force (as a prospect), we're out of it. If it's in your top three factors, we're probably not crazy about it. Because we've got a lot to offer here, and you're going to get paid (eventually) at every level.”
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I like it.
"If money's your driving force (as a prospect), we're out of it. If it's in your top three factors, we're probably not crazy about it. Because we've got a lot to offer here, and you're going to get paid (eventually) at every level.”
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eventually isn't good enuff for most kids
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There is a story on Hawkeyeswire suggesting that Ryan Fitzgerald is hinting at a new addition to the coaching staff at the University of Iowa by responding to a tweet on "X" about his dad settling a lawsuit for wrongful termination. Ryan Fitzgerald posted black and gold emoticons. It seems like a rather tenuous hint at a staff addition.
A better hint was the photograph of Pat Fitzgerald in 2024 congratulating then Iowa QB Brendan Sullivan inside the tunnel that leads to the Iowa locker room at Kinnick Stadium following a game in 2024.
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but, but, ,...................... they need help on offense, not defense
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but, but, ,...................... they need help on offense, not defense
This is true. Jay Niemann, who is "Assistant D-Line Coach" (Kelvin Bell is the D-Line Coach), turns 65 Nov. 27.
If Pat Fitzgerald were hired, I suspect they would start him out as an Analyst.
It would be a convenience to move to Iowa City to watch his son play D-I football. I think he has another son in high school. Eventually it would be a lot easier being a dad going to the kids' games if they all lived in Iowa City, and if Dad had a job in Iowa City.
It might not be this year as the season is upon us, and Ryan almost certainly will be buried in the depth chart at #4 or #5 QB.
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The NCAA lifted the limits on "Analysts" for FBS schools and allows them to provide technical and tactical instruction during practices and games.
I think I counted 12 Analysts on the Iowa staff for this season.
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A football team cannot be elite without a passing game, no matter how great the running game.
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Iowa stats vs. Albany
311 yards running
45 yards passing
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Iowa stats vs. Albany
311 yards running
45 yards passing
Welcome to the community!
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yes, welcome aboard!
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Welcome to the community!
Thanks, but I should admit that I am not actually new. I am just an old guy posting with a new user name and new email. I am known in my alternate profile as LittlePig, but I've wanted to change my user name for years to something that identifies me more as an Iowa fan.
I was originally thinking of changing my LittlePig username to ManHawkPig, but decided to keep it short instead, so now I am ManHawk!
So thanks for the welcome everyone, but really I guess I should be saying it's great be back in a new form.:)
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Maybe there is a way @Drew4UTk (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1) can merge all of your posts to the new moniker. I don't know.
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Maybe there is a way @Drew4UTk (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1) can merge all of your posts to the new moniker. I don't know.
Or if @Drew4UTk (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1) can just change the old username LittlePig to ManHawk, that could work too I guess. Otherwise I will just start over fresh.
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Or if @Drew4UTk (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1) can just change the old username LittlePig to ManHawk, that could work too I guess. Otherwise I will just start over fresh.
Pretty sure you can change your own username. I did. If not, Drew absolutely can.
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Thanks, but I should admit that I am not actually new. I am just an old guy posting with a new user name and new email. I am known in my alternate profile as LittlePig, but I've wanted to change my user name for years to something that identifies me more as an Iowa fan.
I was originally thinking of changing my LittlePig username to ManHawkPig, but decided to keep it short instead, so now I am ManHawk!
So thanks for the welcome everyone, but really I guess I should be saying it's great be back in a new form.:)
Interesting that you rebranded to ManHawk.
I have used the moniker ManHawk playing fantasy sports elsewhere on the internet. I live in Manchester. The local high school team was known as the "ManHawks" when I was a kid growing up. I did not grow up here.
The local high school was Manchester HS, but after consolidation in 1960, the high school was rebranded as West Delaware, and the term Hawks has been in use since 1960, but the newspapers continued using the nickname "ManHawks" possibly into the 1970s. I suspect it was after the proliferation of girls sports, that the ManHawks name was phased out completely, prior to my arrival here in 1991.
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Interesting that you rebranded to ManHawk.
I have used the moniker ManHawk playing fantasy sports elsewhere on the internet. I live in Manchester. The local high school team was known as the "ManHawks" when I was a kid growing up. I did not grow up here.
The local high school was Manchester HS, but after consolidation in 1960, the high school was rebranded as West Delaware, and the term Hawks has been in use since 1960, but the newspapers continued using the nickname "ManHawks" possibly into the 1970s. I suspect it was after the proliferation of girls sports, that the ManHawks name was phased out completely, prior to my arrival here in 1991.
That's so wild. I had no idea there was a high school with the ManHawks team name.
My inspiration actually came from an old cartoon character. I was considering a username like HawkPig, and I remembered an old cartoon character called ManBearPig. So I thought why not ManHawkPig for a new username? But by the time I finally created the new name, I had already decided to shorten it to just ManHawk.
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What is wild is I do not view SouthPark and have no idea about what is involved other than recent political jabs, which we all should allow for as we did when Johnny Carson was our night show. Humor has its place.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDtdU2aoWN8
Maybe this has been posted already. Annie Agar takes a jab at the Iowa passing game
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hey, Gronowski had more completions to WRs (4) than to TEs (3) or RB (2)
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Maybe this has been posted already. Annie Agar takes a jab at the Iowa passing game
So did Mike Valenti - MSU Grad Detroit Radio
"Iowa offense run,run,pass,punt.Fans in the crowd wearing shirts with "I root for the Punter" it's great to show up and wave to the sick kids but they shouldn't have to watch that offense. But nothing else moves the needle there."
Ferentz had to have someone's party pictures to keep getting that money.I can see getting contracts but they made him higher than Jim Tressel/Lloyd Carr and Paterno/Alverez also. But he is consistent and seems to play the Blue Bloods close
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The funny part is I got the EA college football game on my kids PS5. I play online exactly like Iowa plays and the other online players just hate it.
I run for 2 plays straight, run the play clock down to 5 seconds each time. Then on 3rd down I try to complete a pass to the TE Ostrenga, which somethings works for a first down. Sometimes I manage to keep the ball for an entire half on just one drive. When on defense I never blitz and make the other team take short passes and march down the field on long, long drives themselves.
Sometimes the other player just gets frustated and concedes the game out of boredom.
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I assume your punting game is awesome!
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The funny part is I got the EA college football game on my kids PS5. I play online exactly like Iowa plays and the other online players just hate it.
I run for 2 plays straight, run the play clock down to 5 seconds each time. Then on 3rd down I try to complete a pass to the TE Ostrenga, which somethings works for a first down. Sometimes I manage to keep the ball for an entire half on just one drive. When on defense I never blitz and make the other team take short passes and march down the field on long, long drives themselves.
Sometimes the other player just gets frustated and concedes the game out of boredom.
That's nothing to be proud of, Rusty.
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That's nothing to be proud of, Rusty.
Oh, I agree. It's painful for me too, but maybe a little funny at the same time. I just feel like I have a duty if I am going to play as Iowa, I need to play like Iowa.
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https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1963220749482664063 (https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1963220749482664063)
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Am I the only Iowa fan who was not aware that the annual Cy-Hawk game is commonly called "El Assico" by football fans inside the state of Iowa.
Origin of the Name
- El Clásico:
The term "El Assico" is a play on the name "El Clásico," which refers to the iconic rivalry between two Spanish football clubs, Real Madrid and FC Barcelona. - "Assy" Quality:
The "Ass" part of "El Assico" is a humorous and slightly derogatory term that players and fans sometimes use to describe the quality of play in the game, suggesting it's not always a skillful, high-level exhibition but rather a scrappy, intense affair.
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That's kind of great.
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inside the state??
I haven't heard this or didn't remember it
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I heard someone suggest that the CyHawk dynamic has flipped.
Under the old format Iowa was oft in the mix for Big Ten titles, while ISU had no chance. So their season lived and died with the CyHawk game.
Under the current format, ISU is in the mix for Big 12 titles every year, while Iowa isn't really competing for Big Ten titles anymore, with the dissolution of the B1G West, and the additions of Oregon/USC.
Any merit to this?
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Merit?
Everyone knows that only 5-6 schools will ever have a chance to win the conference anymore.
Yay!
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Merit?
Everyone knows that only 5-6 schools will ever have a chance to win the conference anymore.
Yay!
Not sure it's even 5-6.
Right now I'd be surprised if anyone other than Ohio State or Oregon wins it. And Michigan if they hire better a better coach.
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Not sure it's even 5-6.
Right now I'd be surprised if anyone other than Ohio State or Oregon wins it. And Michigan if they hire better a better coach.
USC, PSU and UNL have the money for it. But their coaches are not good.
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Penn State played for it last year, Indiana came close.
UDub and M recently played for a NC, so a Big Ten title is hardly far fetched.
USC and Nebraska could get back in the mix. Okay, maybe not Nebraska.
But yeah, the ship may have already sailed for a lot of the traditional B1G West teams.
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USC, PSU and UNL have the money for it. But their coaches are not good.
Nebraska's not really in the same league.
PSU is just fool's gold every year. I'll believe they can do it in the new landscape, only when they've actually done it.
And USC is just up against too many challenges. The travel is going to wear them out and diminish their chances every single year. Also, although they have substantial NIL money, they're really disorganized and scattered about how they disperse it. Honestly I don't see USC ever challenging for the B1G.
Would love to be wrong about that though, I'm one of those people who thinks college football is more fun when USC is winning.
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inside the state??
I haven't heard this or didn't remember it
I'll go with that
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I'm one of those people who thinks college football is more fun when USC is winning.
I dunno when Lady Clairol as Hooky use to refer to Pete Carrol was there it was more excitement. Winning the PAC damn near every year and their Showtime LA presence made it easy to dislike them. Now it's just a totally different vibe,good points about travel.These were made by others before all of this and seemingly disregarded by the Suits making bank that didn't have to do it. Gotta be even worse for Stanford in the ACC any of the common folk would have told them that's boardering on madness
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I'm one of those people who think college football is best when Wisconsin and Iowa are good, and Minnesota sucks.
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Nebraska's not really in the same league.
PSU is just fool's gold every year. I'll believe they can do it in the new landscape, only when they've actually done it.
And USC is just up against too many challenges. The travel is going to wear them out and diminish their chances every single year. Also, although they have substantial NIL money, they're really disorganized and scattered about how they disperse it. Honestly I don't see USC ever challenging for the B1G.
Would love to be wrong about that though, I'm one of those people who thinks college football is more fun when USC is winning.
Oregon is handling the travel okay.
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Oregon is handling the travel okay.
In Phil's Nike Force 787,000,000 Dreamliner.
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I'm one of those people who think college football is best when Wisconsin and Iowa are good, and Minnesota Michigan sucks.
FIFY
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Stop.
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Hey you have your christmas list we have ours :111:
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OSU/Michigan got old here 20+ years ago.
Stop. You have your own thread.
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Not sure it's even 5-6.
Right now I'd be surprised if anyone other than Ohio State or Oregon wins it. And Michigan if they hire better a better coach.
If Indiana can come out of nowhere and go 8-1 in the conference, like they did last year, then anybody can do it. Northwestern was a doormat for years then came out of nowhere in 1995 to go to the Rose Bowl.
Its happened in the past, and it will happen again. Any program can win a Big Ten Championship. Especially if they end up getting rid of CCG and go back to the old co-champion idea.
Last year you could have easily had 4 co-champions if there was no CCG and if Ohio St had beat Oregon.
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If Indiana can come out of nowhere and go 8-1 in the conference, like they did last year, then anybody can do it.
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well ya, the stars gotta align
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This sucks. I watched most of the game but missed this. What happened?
https://twitter.com/EliotClough/status/1965488727532470415 (https://twitter.com/EliotClough/status/1965488727532470415)