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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: ELA on December 08, 2024, 11:00:09 PM
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Same record, different vibes
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https://twitter.com/jeffeisenberg/status/1865813087082946574?s=46&t=WlnuR3MuiobA8aA_izh4EQ
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As long as Day is there, from Tressel to Meyer to covid those threads won 2 games 😍
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https://twitter.com/jeffeisenberg/status/1865813087082946574?s=46&t=WlnuR3MuiobA8aA_izh4EQ
😂😂
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(9) Tennessee (+6.5) at (8) Ohio State -- Saturday, Dec. 21 (8 p.m. ET): After losing to Michigan (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/teams/MICH/michigan-wolverines/), Ohio State fell out of Big Ten title contention and down to the 8-seed. Their gift in the first round at Ohio Stadium will be Tennessee, a team with a powerful defense and limited offense. The Buckeyes have far better skill talent and a comparably good defense, but the offensive line will have to step up to the challenge. Tennessee won the lone matchup between these two teams in 1996.
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This game is most likely to see an upset, I think (which could mean Clemson beats Texas). The Vols are a reasonably capable team, being on the road is obviously not to their taste, but I wonder if Ohio Stadium will be that loud for this one. It gets cold in Knoxville, so that probably won't be a factor. Ohio State looks pretty good at times and then not so much later, but they did play the #1 team to the wire on the road, so they also are capable.
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https://twitter.com/BuckeyeFett/status/1865819729325129792
https://twitter.com/GrantRamey/status/1865824439906251253
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https://twitter.com/CFBRep/status/1865815933979070498
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I hope Tennessee brings some flags.
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I kinda hope it snows/sleets/rains that day and the field is a mud pit. Do they have grass? I think they replaced it.
Maybe the Vols can come with some really special shoes with special cleats.
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To me, this game is all about Ohio State's psyche.
I think that the Buckeyes are (or at least can be) a much better team but how will they respond to the loss to Michigan. This season was all about THAT and they failed. So now are they done or ready to go on?
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Maybe the Vols can come with some really special shoes with special cleats.
OMG, don't say that on any tOSU sites. A substantial portion of the tOSU fanbase still refers to the Vols as "Tennecheat" due to their illegal footwear in a game played more than a quarter-century ago.
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Personally I don't see this game being close. I think Tennessee's offense is mediocre and defense isn't good enough to shut down the Buckeyes, unless Ryan Day decides to run up the middle over and over again. Hopefully he learned his lesson and hopefully the OSU o-line does it's job. And hopefully they take 7-10 yard outs off the playbook with Howard. Make him throw downfield to Smith and Egbuka and they'll be fine.
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To me, this game is all about Ohio State's psyche.
I think that the Buckeyes are (or at least can be) a much better team but how will they respond to the loss to Michigan. This season was all about THAT and they failed. So now are they done or ready to go on?
Done, hopefully. LOL
I expect a slobber knocker. OSU definitely has the edge in talent, and all the intangibles in their favor, sans the psyche part you mentioned.
I expect the Buckeyes to get their heads right, and win by close to the spread.
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yup, I expect the Bucks to bounce back
I'd guess Ryan Day has some motivation
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Personally I don't see this game being close. I think Tennessee's offense is mediocre and defense isn't good enough to shut down the Buckeyes, unless Ryan Day decides to run up the middle over and over again. Hopefully he learned his lesson and hopefully the OSU o-line does it's job. And hopefully they take 7-10 yard outs off the playbook with Howard. Make him throw downfield to Smith and Egbuka and they'll be fine.
I reckon not many qualify huh?
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Personally I don't see this game being close. I think Tennessee's offense is mediocre and defense isn't good enough to shut down the Buckeyes, unless Ryan Day decides to run up the middle over and over again. Hopefully he learned his lesson and hopefully the OSU o-line does it's job. And hopefully they take 7-10 yard outs off the playbook with Howard. Make him throw downfield to Smith and Egbuka and they'll be fine.
I give OSU the edge, but dang man......
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I give OSU the edge, but dang man......
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Well, when you put up 718 yards against Chattanooga, 740 against Kent St, I tend to look at the specific games stats like 313 against FLorida, 345 against Oklahoma and 332 against Arkansas as a better gauge. 313 against Georgia, but their defense looks top tier to me and maybe thats a closer comparison to the Buckeyes D. All i'm saying is sometimes season stats and rankings can be a little misleading.
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Every team swells their stats on pastries. A viable comparison would mean every other team on that list loses their pastry numbers too.
The Vols in my view had a pretty competent offense.
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Well, when you put up 718 yards against Chattanooga, 740 against Kent St, I tend to look at the specific games stats like 313 against FLorida, 345 against Oklahoma and 332 against Arkansas as a better gauge. 313 against Georgia, but their defense looks top tier to me and maybe thats a closer comparison to the Buckeyes D. All i'm saying is sometimes season stats and rankings can be a little misleading.
Well sure. But everyone with a pulse puts up monster #'s against creampuffs, so it sorta evens out, no?
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Every team swells their stats on pastries. A viable comparison would mean every other team on that list loses their pastry numbers too.
The Vols in my view had a pretty competent offense.
while that's true.. not all teams swell it at that level. Secondly, numbers alone aren't a perfect science. Unless taking that argument means people are willing to say North Texas and New Mexico had better offenses than Ohio State and Oregon.
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while that's true.. not all teams swell it at that level. Secondly, numbers alone aren't a perfect science. Unless taking that argument means people are willing to say North Texas and New Mexico had better offenses than Ohio State and Oregon.
Not all, but yours and mine do.
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Well sure. But everyone with a pulse puts up monster #'s against creampuffs, so it sorta evens out, no?
Good point. Michigan offense was so bad and QB’s so atrocious that they didn’t put up monster #’s vs cream puffs.
Tennessee offense is significantly better than Michigan’s and well Michigan just beat Ohio State in Columbus.
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Tennessee is #18 in SP+ offense, and #3 in defense.
Ohio State is #9 and #1
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I thought the Vol offense was pretty dangerous, just my view watching them a few times and against the Dawgs.
I can of course cherry pick stats to make it look awesome or mediocre.
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I thought the Vol offense was pretty dangerous, just my view watching them a few times and against the Dawgs.
I can of course cherry pick stats to make it look awesome or mediocre.
It is capable of either, as was seen throughout the season, but getting more consistent as the year played out.
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I thought the Vol offense was pretty dangerous, just my view watching them a few times and against the Dawgs.
I can of course cherry pick stats to make it look awesome or mediocre.
There's a difference between cherry picking stats and looking at stats against teams that actually have a pulse. Now granted, I haven't watched all the Tennessee games, but the couple i have watched, I wasn't blown away. I also didn't say the defense was bad, I just don't think they have enough talent to shut down the OSU offense. In fairness, not many teams do as they are one of the most talented offenses in all of college football in my eyes.. and that's being said by a Buckeye disliker.
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Ohio State should prevail, based on stats, and the line, and HFA. I personally think the Vols are capable of upsetting the Bucks, but I don't expect that. It all depends on the shoes.
I get the impression that the upper level teams this year are all inconsistent more than usual.
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If we look at points scored by the Vols against decent competition, we might say the output was not awesome.
NC State - 51, definitely a good figure.
@Oklahoma - 25, it looked better at the time.
@Arkansas - 14, definitely not good at all.
Florida - 17 in regulation.
Alabama - 24.
Kentucky - 28.
@UGA - 17
@Vandy - 36
My GUESS is the put up around 17 on Ohio State on the road.
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I get the impression that the upper level teams this year are all inconsistent more than usual.
This we completely agree on.
And also, I've been wrong plenty so Tennessee could also have an explosive offense that scores 40 and a defense that holds them to 10. My predictions and takes are about as inconsistent as the upper level teams this year lol
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Well, when you put up 718 yards against Chattanooga, 740 against Kent St, I tend to look at the specific games stats like 313 against FLorida, 345 against Oklahoma and 332 against Arkansas as a better gauge. 313 against Georgia, but their defense looks top tier to me and maybe thats a closer comparison to the Buckeyes D. All i'm saying is sometimes season stats and rankings can be a little misleading.
I use conference stats, not total season
helps some
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Vis-a-vis this discussion of stats, I like College Football Nerds (https://collegefootballnerds.com/Stats###). For this game:
Scoring Offense:
- #6 Ohio State, +49%
- #25 Tennessee, +24%
Total Offense:
- #8 Ohio State, +23%
- #36 Tennessee, +12%
Scoring Defense:
- #1 Ohio State, -59%
- #7 Tennessee, -41%
Total Defense:
- #1 Ohio State, -33%
- #10 Tennessee, -20%
Here are the rankings for the two teams that beat Tennessee and the two teams that beat Ohio State:
Scoring Offense:
- #7 Georgia, +47%
- #8 Oregon, +43%
- #42 Arkansas, +12%
- #57 Michigan, +3%
Total Offense:
- #4 Oregon, +26%
- #12 Arkansas, +21%
- #14 Georgia, +20%
- #110 Michigan, -12%
Scoring Defense:
- #9 Oregon, -34%
- #13 Michigan, -28%
- #19 Georgia, -23%
- #69 Arkansas, -2%
Total Defense:
- #8 Oregon, -21%
- #12 Michigan, -19%
- #18 Georgia, -14%
- #51 Arkansas, -5%
I read that as:
- Elite: tOSU-D
- Near elite: tOSU-O, Tennessee-D
- Good: Tennessee-O
Both teams have shown very good and very bad performances.
How have the two done against defenses comparable to what they will face in each other:
Scoring:
- Penn State is #5 in scoring defense: tOSU 20
- Alabama is #8 in scoring defense: TN 24
- Oregon is #9 in scoring defense: tOSU 31
- Indiana is #11 in scoring defense: tOSU 38
- Michigan is #13 in scoring defense: tOSU 10
- Oklahoma is #17 in scoring defense: TN 25
- Georgia is #19 in scoring defense: TN 17
- Iowa is #22 in scoring defense: tOSU 35
- Nebraska is #24 in scoring defense: tOSU 21
With the glaring exception of Michigan, Ohio State has scored in the 20's or more against good defenses all year. Tennessee has scored 17, 24, and 25 against good defenses.
Total:
- Indiana is #3 in total defense:
- Penn State is #4 in total defense:
- Oklahoma is #7 in total defense:
- Oregon is #8 in total defense:
- Michigan is #12 in total defense:
- Georgia is #18 in total defense:
How have the two done against offenses comparable to what they will face in each other:
Scoring:
- Indiana is #2 in scoring offense: vs tOSU, 15
- Alabama is #4 in scoring offense: vs TN, 17
- Georgia is #7 in scoring offense: vs TN, 31
- Oregon is #8 in scoring offense: vs tOSU, 32
- Penn State is #22 in scoring offense: vs tOSU, 13
- Florida is #33 in scoring offense: vs TN, 17
- Iowa is #38 in scoring offense: vs tOSU, 7
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I read that as:
- Elite: tOSU-D
- Near elite: tOSU-O, Tennessee-D
- Good: Tennessee-O
I think this is an accurate summation, Ohio State should win on paper.
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great thing about college football
all the detailed analysis doesn't yield the winner or loser
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In any season, the post season is a season unto itself.
This season- the way it unfolded - makes trying to guess this stuff even more challenging.
In this game, I have no earthly idea what to expect. Literally- none.
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I expect Ohio State to win at home by a comfortable two scores, but not to run away with the thing.
But nothing would surprise me. Truth is, this should be a good playoff game. Whether playoff games are a good idea is no longer the point (I'm against it)--it will be fun to watch.
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I read that as:
- Elite: tOSU-D
- Near elite: tOSU-O, Tennessee-D
- Good: Tennessee-O
I think this is an accurate summation, Ohio State should win on paper.
So to sum up what you said:
OSU O - too good for Tennessee D
Tennessee O - will be mediocre against elite OSU D
hmm.. think i read that somewhere
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So to sum up what you said:
OSU O - too good for Tennessee D
Tennessee O - will be mediocre against elite OSU D
hmm.. think i read that somewhere
Yep, Tennessee's defense has given up more than 20 pts in 2 of the last 13 games. (23, 31)
OSU's offense should boat race the bums.
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My God.... and i thought i was a homer!
I see an almost dead even matched game, and frankly an edge to UT in one aspect. UT hasn't "had" to run the HUNH and they pretty much haven't, all season. Their loss to arky was straight arrogance- they really thought they could score with ease the last minute- and had nico seen sampson wide open with nobody within 15yds of him on the 15~20, they'd have not lost to arky. They were straight beat by UGA.
UT has laid off the throttle in more games this season than I've ever seen under Heup...Okey being the most glaring... because of a young QB or a stout D, or both, doesn't matter. UTs d line will have their way with tOSUs. UTs run game will be a handful for tOSU... tOSU will be a handful for UT- it's going to be a good game.
But that HUNH.... IF heup runs that as they did when hooker was at the helm, tOSU will be starstruck and dumbfounded. I see that as the KEY difference between these teams. UT is every bit as good as tOSU... the question otherwise is how UT handles the away... they don't play the same game away under heup. That is the break for tOSU.
50/50 on this game in a neutral place- home means everything.. that HUNH may counter that (has tosu EVER played a team like that for an entire contest?)...
Yall go ahead and sleep on UT for the next two weeks if it makes ya feel better.
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NO WAY OSU beats UT!
Days a freakin' headcase and can't get out of his own way. UT will have its way on both lines.
I see an easy blowout by the Vols. Buckeye fans are going home wet and sad for Christmas.
27-10 Traffic Barrels over the Poisonous Nuts.
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I see it being pretty even. Should be a fun one to watch! Will there be snow? That would be cool.
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It feels like Tennessee has only a couple of paths to win this one. They will either need to turn it into a mud fight and make a couple of plays, or maybe have that young quarterback suddenly come into his own and match his talent.
it feels like Ohio State has more paths, but I feel like their quarterback is just not excellent enough to make me feel truly comfortable.
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It feels like Tennessee has only a couple of paths to win this one. They will either need to turn it into a mud fight and make a couple of plays, or maybe have that young quarterback suddenly come into his own and match his talent.
it feels like Ohio State has more paths, but I feel like their quarterback is just not excellent enough to make me feel truly comfortable.
Ever heard of Dyllan Sampson?
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I expect Ohio State to win at home by a comfortable two scores, but not to run away with the thing.
Looks like most of the predictions for the Michigan Game
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Nico hasn't had to be "born under fire" as Sampson bailed them out carrying the load- when he was required, sans arky, he's produced. Bama was locked up both sides of ball and Okey had no real shot. Uga is only team that handled them with ease and save a few breaks and questionable calls, they were in that game.
The comment about stats against patsies: nico and Sampson both were pulled after second quarter in every trouncing- his stats are for 2 quarters or even a full quarter and half another.
This isn't to say they're setting world on fire, but is to say the stats and casual looks skews a dang solid team- and one elite as tOSU insofar as "team" yet without the 5stars on the roster that gives tOSU all this confidence they may not rate.. which isnt meant to berate tOSU.
IN MY OPINION these teams are evenly matched as any game that is or could/can be in this playoff.
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I don’t know. They may have been evenly matched a few months back.
Not so much now. UT has a great D-line, and maybe the most depth there of anyone. We already saw what OSU’s patchwork injury riddled line is about. Not pretty.
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I don’t know. They may have been evenly matched a few months back.
Not so much now. UT has a great D-line, and maybe the most depth there of anyone. We already saw what OSU’s patchwork injury riddled line is about. Not pretty.
Sandbagger!
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Yeah OSU can't block a good front, which I assume Tennessee has
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Yeah OSU can't block a good front, which I assume Tennessee has
It’s excellent. And 7-8 deep.
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Gonna have to mute the sound, no way in Hell am I listening to Rocky Top as much as I suspect it will be played. HB's right that turnstile of what was a decent line could bring down the curtain on the Ryan Day Show in C-Bus. So this Game might just work out all right after all 🤬
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rocky top
who's the announcing crew?
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Day can't Beat TTUN
Day Can't win a Bowl Game
Day can't beat the SEC
Like why are we even playing the game. Just give the Vols the W, and we all can move on with our lives.
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i smell sarcasm?
i DON'T think UT will roll tOSU... i think they're a damn worthy opponent, though and from either vantage, and, i think whoever wins this game will be valid competition for Oregon, and whoever wins that game will be absolutely validated as worthy of the following games- to the point, whoever wins the game following this one should be ranked #3 at a minimum, if not #2- or obviously #1 if this bracket wins out.
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8 PM start for this game. I'm guessing that the temperatures will be in the 20s by halftime.
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OSU is favored for a reason. Historically, that means the favorite wins about 2/3rds of the time.
Maybe running the ball and having fewer TOs might be a factor ....
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Knoxville gets cold as well, probably not as cold usually, but it would be 30°F there that night, usually, or close to it.
Sometimes they get a warm wet front of course.
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about a 10 degree difference on average
not a big deal
unless you've got a bunch of Florida kids on the roster
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Ohio State probably should win and be favored on paper- it's a home game and they have more skill talent everywhere except...QB. But it should be a very close hard fought game. Tennessee will have a very real shot at the upset.
2024 Ohio State was a LEGIT QB- think CJ Stroud, Dwayne Haskins (RIP), Justin Fields (Will Howard is the very definition of the slang term mid) and a top tier OL away from truly being in that convo for "GrEaTesT tEaM eVuRrr" on paper like Urbs said.
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It feels like Tennessee has only a couple of paths to win this one. They will either need to turn it into a mud fight and make a couple of plays, or maybe have that young quarterback suddenly come into his own and match his talent.
it feels like Ohio State has more paths, but I feel like their quarterback is just not excellent enough to make me feel truly comfortable.
this is my thought exactly. Will Howard ain't it. Never been it. He lost his job at Kansas State and had to hit the portal for a reason. He's a guy you can win with if you don't ask him to do much. But with the OL injuries and lack of depth at OL that OSU has and their inability to run the ball consistently- they have had to ask Howard to do more as of recent and simply put he ain't that guy. He's a future UDFA. Dude ain't a top 10 nfl draft pick like CJ Stroud, Justin Fields, or Dwayne Haskins (RIP).
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Glad we're playing in Austin. Sunny and high of 62 is the current forecast for 12/21.
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Glad we're playing in Austin. Sunny and high of 62 is the current forecast for 12/21.
that's still cold to me. anything below 70 here in South Florida and I'm freezing to death.
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62 and sunny is shorts weather on the golf course
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62 and sunny is shorts weather on the golf course
Heck yeah. Of course for me anything above 50 and sunny is shorts weather on the golf course.
I *might* go to long pants if the day is expected to be <60 and overcast all day, but often won't even do that unless we're expecting a fair amount of wind or light rain on top of the temp/clouds.
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yup, wind and precipitation can cool things down
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that's still cold to me. anything below 70 here in South Florida and I'm freezing to death.
Hope and Iquana fall and hits you,gonna be around 20° here tonite
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5 above in Mitchell, SD currently
wind makes if feel like 5 below........
not bad
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Actual photo of Fearless right now...
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Heck yeah. Of course for me anything above 50 and sunny is shorts weather on the golf course.
I *might* go to long pants if the day is expected to be <60 and overcast all day, but often won't even do that unless we're expecting a fair amount of wind or light rain on top of the temp/clouds.
Yeah, 50 degrees in direct sunlight with no wind can heat you up in a hurry, if you are out being active in it.
As soon as the sun goes down though, you need to change into warmer clothing post haste.
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34°F here right now, supposed to hit 54°F and sunny, light winds. Nice day for December.
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Warming up here
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gonna be nice until I head to Texas
I'll be at my brother's place on Wednesday the 18th, with any luck
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staying there for Christmas? If so stop and snatch some of 94s Egg Nog
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My i s c & a aggie wife made a small batch two nights ago, it's so good. We almost finished it just the two of us.
We'll be making much larger batches Friday, with the eggnog party on Saturday.
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staying there for Christmas? If so stop and snatch some of 94s Egg Nog
unfortunately, he's 3 hours south - too far for egg nog
I will be visiting Round Rock next March for a wedding
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Cleveland is cold an icy today. On a 6 mile stretch, I passed 8 accidents on the highway today.
I also disagree with the downplaying of 10 degree colder a little further north. There's plenty of times it's still crummy 40 degrees in Cleveland and my buddies in Cbus are on the golf course sneaking in an early spring round when it's 50 and sunny. 10 degrees and 100 miles south can be a different universe certain times of the year.
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Ya what mario said 🥶 19° though the sun is dancing off a an inch of snow - but hellz ya throw another witch on the fire.Dianne Pelosi - c'mon up
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Sometimes they get a warm wet front of course.
That's what she said.
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I also disagree with the downplaying of 10 degree colder a little further north.
I think at least my comment is that it's not as if the Vols are from Florida. They are much more used to cold weather than the Canes obviously, so weather should be less of a factor that it might have been. It's possible the Vols practice outside in unusually warm weather and then encounter 25°F in Columbus and find it off putting, and the reverse is also possible. It might be cold in Knoxville the week leading up to the game and then 45°F in Columbus when the game starts.
I think the coldest official temperature in the state of Ohio was in Cincinnati, but I'm not sure about that.
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I think at least my comment is that it's not as if the Vols are from Florida. They are much more used to cold weather than the Canes obviously, so weather should be less of a factor that it might have been. It's possible the Vols practice outside in unusually warm weather and then encounter 25°F in Columbus and find it off putting, and the reverse is also possible. It might be cold in Knoxville the week leading up to the game and then 45°F in Columbus when the game starts.
I think the coldest official temperature in the state of Ohio was in Cincinnati, but I'm not sure about that.
Terrified, mortified, petrified, and stupefied!
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I think at least my comment is that it's not as if the Vols are from Florida. They are much more used to cold weather than the Canes obviously, so weather should be less of a factor that it might have been. It's possible the Vols practice outside in unusually warm weather and then encounter 25°F in Columbus and find it off putting, and the reverse is also possible. It might be cold in Knoxville the week leading up to the game and then 45°F in Columbus when the game starts.
I think the coldest official temperature in the state of Ohio was in Cincinnati, but I'm not sure about that.
I was more using it as a means to complain about cold weather in cleveland than to actually take a shot at your comment. My bad if it came across that way Cincy.. I'm a baby in gloomy, crappy weather of cleveland this time of year. And 10 degrees for me is a game changer. I got spoiled living overseas when the low was 76-78 ever day and the high was 87-90 every day and was only cloudy during rainy season, but it was at hot, not driving on ice rinks.
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Terrified, mortified, petrified, and stupefied!
What are those, the Four Horsemen of the Orangepocalypse?
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really think the cold weather pansies stuff strictly applies to the Florida teams. it gets cold in the South everywhere except for Florida and more specifically South Florida.
It’s extremely rare but temps can get as low into the high 30’s and low 40’s late at night and very early in the morning but even then by the time the sun is out and 10-11am it’s right back to 70 on those days. Lowest temps in winter are usually 50’s late at night very early morning then right back to 75-80 during the day. Absolutely love it. Fuck the cold.
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I recall that Miami Wisconsin bowl game.
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What are those, the Four Horsemen of the Orangepocalypse?
They appear to be the Four Walk-On's of Never Gonna See The Field.
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Canes froze up in El Paso at a couple Sun Bowls too.
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Right now the 21st is the coldest day on the long term forecast with a high of 28 and a low of 17
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Just point a snow machine down their sideline. That'll cool 'em off.
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Visiting Michigan for holidays right now.
Having your morning, coffee and reading the news outside is not the same as back home. It is 12°
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18° here got down to 15° over nite
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10 now, 7 overnight
sending it your way
freezing rain this afternoon, snow tonight
hoping the snow holds off until I'm finished with my steak at Archie's Waeside tonight
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Years ago we had a cold stretch in January, six days in a row the T didn't rise above 0°F. The seventh day as I pulled into the work parking lot, the radio said it was 17°F that morning, I got out of the car and unzipped my coat.
Obviously I had layers and a good coat, but that reflects some acclimation I think.
I still have that coat, Columbia, I don't wear it much now. It had a cell phone pocket, the first I'd ever seen, and I thought cell phones were expensive gadgets. So I guess I got it around 1996 or so. I did get a flip phone somewhere about 2000 or so.
Our building supposedly had a rule barring cameras of any kind, that went out the window I guess.
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we had a record setting stretch like that back in 1984 or 85 in SE Iowa - Columbus Junction/Muscatine area south of Iowa City
20+ days below zero
I have a Columbia Ski Jacket I bought in Durango Colorado in the mid 90's.
Don't wear it much - it's too warm
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What is this, the weather thread?
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I often mentioned how weird UGA has played this season, I've also noted it seems to be true for many other teams, including OSU and UT. This game could end up of course being something like 35-14 depending on unpredictable events. And weirdosity.
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What is this, the weather thread?
it's more fun than listening to Buckeyes whine and bitch
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Long range forecast for Columbus is a high of 29 at 3PM and low of 23 at 11PM. Fans are going to need their thermal undies.
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Knoxville forecast is 34°F and 20°F on Saturday week.
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Thinking whoever can run the ball best wins this one.
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Thinking whoever can run the ball best wins this one.
Personally I'm thinking whoever scores the most points will win. :)
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Whoever manages to not become a popsicle wins.
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My major question is why did the Vols go with Rocky Top as their big theme song when Tennessee Stud would sound so much better with the band and is a way cooler Tennessee song
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My choice-- "Smoky Mountain Rain" by the great Ronnie Milsap!
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Long range forecast for Columbus is a high of 29 at 3PM and low of 23 at 11PM. Fans are going to need their thermal undies.
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One does tire quickly of hearing Rocky Top at their games. One solution is to prevent them from scoring or getting a first down.
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Personally I'm thinking whoever scores the most points will win. :)
This. In spades. 100% formula.
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But, I hear sometimes the refereeing is so bad the coach asks for the outcome to be set aside.
Oh wait.
I see that on FB as "Breaking News" a few times.
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My choice-- "Smoky Mountain Rain" by the great Ronnie Milsap!
A cheap knock off of "Kentucky Rain".
Damn near the same song.
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My major question is why did the Vols go with Rocky Top as their big theme song when Tennessee Stud would sound so much better with the band and is a way cooler Tennessee song
I figure for the same reasons "Country Roads" is a West Virginia banger.
Or "Sweet Home Alabama" in Gumpville.
Or "Callin' Baton Rouge" in the sewer that is Baton Rouge.
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I had friends who were UT alumni with season tickets and they couldn't make one game. Knowing I was a Dawg fan, they gave their tickets to me, so we went. It was the game where Nick Chubb went down with his first bad knee injury. The Vols won. The Vol fans around us and that I met were extremely courteous.
UGA ran out to an early lead, and it got pretty quiet, and then the Vols stormed back and it was very loud.
As noted, I have no idea what to expect from either team, hope it's a good game. My mom was a UT grad also, but my kids are OSU alumni.
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OSU band should play Hang on Sloopy for every First down
https://youtu.be/WbZq5idUJcI
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I had friends who were UT alumni with season tickets and they couldn't make one game. Knowing I was a Dawg fan, they gave their tickets to me, so we went. It was the game where Nick Chubb went down with his first bad knee injury. The Vols won. The Vol fans around us and that I met were extremely courteous.
UGA ran out to an early lead, and it got pretty quiet, and then the Vols stormed back and it was very loud.
As noted, I have no idea what to expect from either team, hope it's a good game. My mom was a UT grad also, but my kids are OSU alumni.
Sounds like 2015.
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Visiting Michigan for holidays right now.
Having your morning, coffee and reading the news outside is not the same as back home. It is 12°
I've always felt deep down that at your core, you are a Michigan man so it's nice to see you hanging out at a place that is secretly your home :)
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^^^ Them's fighting words.
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A cheap knock off of "Kentucky Rain".
Damn near the same song.
Eh, as much as I love Elvis (and Eddie Rabbit who wrote that song), it's not anywhere near as good.
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Eh, as much as I love Elvis (and Eddie Rabbit who wrote that song), it's not anywhere near as good.
Eddie loves him some rain huh?
I didn't know he wrote it. Learned something new.
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Eddie loves him some rain huh?
I didn't know he wrote it. Learned something new.
Ha! I didn't even think of that, but yeah, you're right.
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OSU band should play Hang on Sloopy for every First down
Oh Hell no, a whiny wimper that in high school was played when your team was getting routed,curb stomped,water boarded and wood shedded for good measure. The Buckeye Battle Cry and/or Across the Field Hellz Ya
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It's Game Week. I still think OSU is gonna get thumped on Saturday.
Reading reports that the O-line is getting shuffled again.
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It's Game Week. I still think OSU is gonna get thumped on Saturday.
Reading reports that the O-line is getting shuffled again.
Are you saying...
"THERE'S NO WAY OHIO STATE CAN BEAT TENNESSEE!!!"
???
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It's Game Week. I still think OSU is gonna get thumped on Saturday.
Reading reports that the O-line is getting shuffled again.
Might as well and put the nail in Just For Men's stay in C-Bus
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Weather forecast 29°/17°F Saturday. (Knoxville would be 40°F/23°F).
The weather could be a factor at times for both teams. I lean to favoring Ohio State but the spread looks about right to me.
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Ohio State and Tennessee have kids from all over the country, and most of them are not from Wisconsin, Minnesota, the Dakotas, Nebraska, Iowa, etc.
They will all be cold.
Wisconsin spent a lot of money on a heated field. So far, the return on the investment sucks ass.
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didn't draw enough Florida kids?
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Wisconsin has a lot of Florida kids, all things considered, including 3 in the 2025 class.
If they don't make the playoffs or earn a home game, the heated field is a major waste of money.
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I remember a prof at UGA telling me I should go to Wisconsin to grad school. It sounded like the north pole to me at that time. I was a bit ... provincial.
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I remember a prof at UGA telling me I should go to Wisconsin to grad school. It sounded like the north pole to me at that time. I was a bit ... provincial.
Great Chem department up there. Always top 5 in the country.
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Wisconsin has a lot of Florida kids, all things considered, including 3 in the 2025 class.
If they don't make the playoffs or earn a home game, the heated field is a major waste of money.
so you'd rather have that $$$ to pay NIL deals?
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I didn't watch either team very much this year.
But ignorance usually doesn't stop people from blathering their opinion, so what the heck.
Ohio St by 10
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I'd be surprised if tOSU wins this game,floored if they win by 10.Three starters out on the O-Line from season's start Vols Defense is 5th in the nation and play in the SEC
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sand bagger, Vance
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(https://i.imgur.com/ELjXQGH.jpeg)
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THREE offensive lineman done for the year,two of them very good Josh Simmons & Seth McLaughlin want to make a tag line bet? Oh and Ryan Day's still coaching which might warm John Coopers and Michigan's heart but not the Buckeye faithful
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OSU does have legit OL concerns and Tennessee does have an excellent front. Should be interesting to see that chess match.
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Every time I've watched Tennessee, their offense looks like a fancy car with a bad starter. If it cranks up it can be impressive, but it usually won't even get going. I don't trust them against a good defense.
Insert obligatory reminder that I haven't watched them or Ohio St. very much this season.
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Yeah this feels like a rock fight sort of game
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This has been a weird season indeed, with a lot of weird teams.
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(https://www.alumnihall.com/prodimages/125964-DEFAULT-l.jpg)
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Hmmm...
Vols takeover? Tennessee residents buy 42% of resold Ohio State game tickets (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/vols-takeover-tennessee-residents-buy-42-of-resold-ohio-state-game-tickets/ar-AA1w2st2?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=daaae2ca3961417f927532061543e1b2&ei=36)
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Hmmm...
Vols takeover? Tennessee residents buy 42% of resold Ohio State game tickets (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/vols-takeover-tennessee-residents-buy-42-of-resold-ohio-state-game-tickets/ar-AA1w2st2?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=daaae2ca3961417f927532061543e1b2&ei=36)
Ohio State fans in general are not AT ALL excited about this team nor this game.
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Ohio State fans in general are not AT ALL excited about this team nor this game.
I wish us Vols were so spoiled.
We were for a time, but a it's been a long stumble through the wilderness.
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Ohio State fans in general are not AT ALL excited about this team nor this game.
Seems odd to not be excited about being in the playoffs. Literally a chance to play for a NC. That Michigan loss must've really knocked the wind out.
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Seems odd to not be excited about being in the playoffs. Literally a chance to play for a NC. That Michigan loss must've really knocked the wind out.
Listen...OSU has been good to great almost every year for like 60 years. The downside is the average fan goes into a pit of despair and self loathing after every loss.
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When the coach who is paid 10.3 mil. per and keeps running up the gut against 2 tackles playing on sundays next season then you're going to have that. Fleet receivers are getting seperation well than then go to the bullpen if the QB is hurting and can't find them. But what do we know we're not pulling down his coin to figure out "maybe i should go out and break up this fight the lads have found themselves in". Instead he loitered about like he tumbled down from the mezzanine with out a clue
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Seems odd to not be excited about being in the playoffs. Literally a chance to play for a NC. That Michigan loss must've really knocked the wind out.
can’t speak for them but man beating Ohio State is the height of joy and losing to them is a pit of despair and hurt- it just really sucks- especially when it’s a streak. Urbs smacked Michigan for 8 in a row and that was ROUGH. They’ve only had half of that and trust me- it fucking sucks.
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https://youtu.be/GQwupLyHO9Q?si=EXmtIyl44672olZz
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https://twitter.com/BasedVols/status/1869136220393226472
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can’t speak for them but man beating Ohio State is the height of joy and losing to them is a pit of despair and hurt- it just really sucks- especially when it’s a streak. Urbs smacked Michigan for 8 in a row and that was ROUGH. They’ve only had half of that and trust me- it fucking sucks.
Having lost for 7 straight years to a division rival with our old coach, believe me, I get it.
I'm pretty sure our fans would still be excited for a team in the playoffs even if we lost to the Gumps again, and I'm noting that I'd have expected the same from Ohio State fans, or Michigan fans if they lost to OSU but made the playoffs. One thing sucking does not necessitate a lack of joy about another thing. I guess in this case it does.
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I wish us Vols were so spoiled.
We were for a time, but a it's been a long stumble through the wilderness.
In the CFP era, I believe that Ohio State would have made a 12 team playoff EVERY SINGLE YEAR. That is great and we love it, but it also means that a season where you lose to a crappy version of your rival AND have another loss AND don't win the league AND barely make the playoff is a "bad season". It is all relative.
Seems odd to not be excited about being in the playoffs. Literally a chance to play for a NC. That Michigan loss must've really knocked the wind out.
It did. And it isn't just that. Ohio State hasn't won the B1G since 2020. The last time Ohio State went four years without winning the league was 2010-2013 but that includes the vacated co-championship from 2010. The last time Ohio State fans didn't watch their team win the league for four straight years (whether subsequently vacated or not) was 30 years ago during the Bruce/Cooper transition (six years from 1987-1992). The time before that was almost 60 years ago (also six years, 1962-1967). 2010-2013 and 1962-1967 were also less painful for another reason, Michigan wasn't winning then. From 2010-2013 Wisconsin won three and MSU won two (one was shared). From 1962-1967:
- MSU won 2
- MN, IU, and PU shared one (still the most recent for both IU and MN
- IL won one
- UW won one
- M won one.
This recent stretch is more akin to 1987-1992.
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Hmmm...
Vols takeover? Tennessee residents buy 42% of resold Ohio State game tickets (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/vols-takeover-tennessee-residents-buy-42-of-resold-ohio-state-game-tickets/ar-AA1w2st2?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=daaae2ca3961417f927532061543e1b2&ei=36)
Tennessee Craigslist is hopping right now. Lot of furniture, appliances, and offspring being sold.
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Tennessee Craigslist is hopping right now. Lot of furniture, appliances, and offspring being sold.
No need.
These playoff tickets are the cheapest Vols have seen in 20 years.
A bargain.
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No need.
These playoff tickets are the cheapest Vols have seen in 20 25 years.
A bargain.
FIFY
And therein lies the difference in demand. For Tennessee fans who want to see their team play for the NC, this is their first opportunity since the inaugural BCSNCG in Arizona on January 4, 1999. Since then, Ohio State fans have had the following opportunities to watch their team play for the NC:
- 2002 BCNCG - won
- 2006 BCSNCG - lost
- 2007 BCSNCG - lost
- 2014 Sugar Bowl - won
- 2014 CFPCG - won
- 2016 FiestaBowl - lost
- 2019 FiestaBowl - lost
- 2020 SugarBowl - won
- 2020 CFPCG - lost
- 2022 PeachBowl - lost
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All that's fine, but I'm not sure that confirming you have a spoiled and entitled fan base is quite the flex you think it is. ;)
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All that's fine, but I'm not sure that confirming you have a spoiled and entitled fan base is quite the flex you think it is. ;)
Don't forget emotionally crippled
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Don't forget emotionally crippled
and mentally handicapped....don't forget that either.
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OK now it's getting salty in here, I love it!
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OK now it's getting salty in here, I love it!
The salt is making me cry a river.
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All that's fine, but I'm not sure that confirming you have a spoiled and entitled fan base is quite the flex you think it is. ;)
And this guy ^^^ knows a thing or two about spoiled and entitled fan base.
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FIFY
And therein lies the difference in demand. For Tennessee fans who want to see their team play for the NC, this is their first opportunity since the inaugural BCSNCG in Arizona on January 4, 1999. Since then, Ohio State fans have had the following opportunities to watch their team play for the NC:
- 2002 BCNCG - won
- 2006 BCSNCG - lost
- 2007 BCSNCG - lost
- 2014 Sugar Bowl - won
- 2014 CFPCG - won
- 2016 FiestaBowl - lost
- 2019 FiestaBowl - lost
- 2020 SugarBowl - won
- 2020 CFPCG - lost
- 2022 PeachBowl - lost
Yeah. But that wasn't the point.
The point was.....we pay more for seats in Neyland Stadium to see a non-con game vs. UTEP.
These playoff tickets are going for 150-175. Hell, I paid 290 a piece for "ok" seats against lowly 3-9 Kentucky this year.
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And with far less reason to feel spoiled and entitled, I'd add!
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FIFY
And therein lies the difference in demand. For Tennessee fans who want to see their team play for the NC, this is their first opportunity since the inaugural BCSNCG in Arizona on January 4, 1999. Since then, Ohio State fans have had the following opportunities to watch their team play for the NC:
- 2002 BCNCG - won
- 2006 BCSNCG - lost
- 2007 BCSNCG - lost
- 2014 Sugar Bowl - won
- 2014 CFPCG - won
- 2016 FiestaBowl - lost
- 2019 FiestaBowl - lost
- 2020 SugarBowl - won
- 2020 CFPCG - lost
- 2022 PeachBowl - lost
Also, feeling confident. :72:
[color=var(--color-neutral-content-strong)]Ohio State is now 1-13 against the SEC in bowl games[/color]
(https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/?f=flair_name%3A)
[color=var(--color-neutral-content)]2023/12/29 Cotton Bowl: Ohio State 3 - Missouri 14
2022/12/31 Peach Bowl: Ohio State 41 - Georgia 42
2021/01/11 CFP Championship: Ohio State 24 - Alabama 52
2015/01/01 Sugar Bowl: Ohio State 42 - Alabama 35
2012/01/02 Gator Bowl: Ohio State 17 - Florida 24
***2011/01/04 Sugar Bowl: Ohio State 31 - Arkansas 26
2008/01/07 BCS Championship: Ohio State 24 - LSU 38
2007/01/08 BCS Championship: Ohio State 14 - Florida 41
2002/01/01 Outback Bowl: Ohio State 28 - South Carolina 31
2001/01/01 Outback Bowl: Ohio State 7 - South Carolina 24
1996/01/01 Citrus Bowl: Ohio State 14 - Tennessee 20
1995/01/02 Citrus Bowl: Ohio State 17 - Alabama 24
1993/01/01 Citrus Bowl: Ohio State 14 - Georgia 21
1990/01/01 Hall of Fame Bowl: Ohio State 14 - Auburn 31
1978/01/02 Sugar Bowl: Ohio State 6 - Alabama 35[/color]
***Win vacated as part of NCAA sanctions LOL
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Having lost for 7 straight years to a division rival with our old coach, believe me, I get it.
I'm pretty sure our fans would still be excited for a team in the playoffs even if we lost to the Gumps again, and I'm noting that I'd have expected the same from Ohio State fans, or Michigan fans if they lost to OSU but made the playoffs. One thing sucking does not necessitate a lack of joy about another thing. I guess in this case it does.
I'm sorry you don't have a rival of the same caliber.
To paraphrase a former player, "it doesn't matter how good your season was, if you didn't beat them then nobody cares.
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Ohio State 26, Tennessee 17
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https://twitter.com/swankywolverine/status/1869374560791122243
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Rocky Top Takeover | Bars in Ohio report Tennessee fans playing Vols' anthem ahead of playoff game
Multiple bars in the Columbus area reported fans using TouchTunes, an online music service, to play Rocky Top over the speakers.
https://www.wbir.com/article/sports/bars-in-ohio-report-vol-fans-playing-hit-song-ahead-of-playoff-game/51-50ad6f16-5488-4aba-a45a-9e0a2747c691#:~:text=Sports-,Rocky%20Top%20Takeover%20%7C%20Bars%20in%20Ohio%20report%20Tennessee%20fans%20playing,Rocky%20Top%20over%20the%20speakers.
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(https://i.imgur.com/A80DgjY.png)
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Reminder to Tennessee that your SEC Membership perks are on the line and may be revoked, pending the outcome of this game. Part of your contract with the SEC is that you don't lose to Ohio State. Alabama has only recently been let off probation for the 2014 fiasco.
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Technically not a bowl game though
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Rocky Top Takeover | Bars in Ohio report Tennessee fans playing Vols' anthem ahead of playoff game
Multiple bars in the Columbus area reported fans using TouchTunes, an online music service, to play Rocky Top over the speakers.
https://www.wbir.com/article/sports/bars-in-ohio-report-vol-fans-playing-hit-song-ahead-of-playoff-game/51-50ad6f16-5488-4aba-a45a-9e0a2747c691#:~:text=Sports-,Rocky%20Top%20Takeover%20%7C%20Bars%20in%20Ohio%20report%20Tennessee%20fans%20playing,Rocky%20Top%20over%20the%20speakers.
This is brilliant. I've got a touchtunes account. I might just spam the IU fight song at every bar in the neighborhood of Notre Dame stadium Friday before the game.
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This is brilliant. I've got a touchtunes account. I might just spam the IU fight song at every bar in the neighborhood of Notre Dame stadium Friday before the game.
Not sure how useful this might be. I don't think most Notre Dame fans could find South Bend on a map :57:
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Not sure how useful this might be. I don't think most Notre Dame fans could find South Bend on a map :57:
True. It's not a stop on the NYC subway.
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Not sure how useful this might be. I don't think most Notre Dame fans could find South Bend on a map :57:
South Bend is a shithole. I don’t blame anyone for not knowing where it is on a map and avoiding it like the plague.
Oh also, fuck Notre Dame forever.
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All that's fine, but I'm not sure that confirming you have a spoiled and entitled fan base is quite the flex you think it is. ;)
I didn't mean it as a flex AT ALL.
I meant it as confirming that we are a spoiled and entitled fanbase and thus explaining why interest in this game among the tOSU fanbase is tepid.
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True. It's not a stop on the NYC subway.
Putting it on a Friday night was risky. If the Lakers have a game, their fan base will have to pick a lane
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and mentally handicapped....don't forget that either.
Says the leader of the band
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Putting it on a Friday night was risky. If the Lakers have a game, their fan base will have to pick a lane
True. Thank god it wasn’t on a Sunday when the Cowboys are on. Or during baseball season when the Yankees are on.
Must be tough being a Notre Dame/Lakers/Cowboys/Yankees fan.
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Notre Lame
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South Bebd. South of some bend, maybe in Louisiana.
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https://twitter.com/treywallace_/status/1869462128660529527?s=46
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Says the leader of the band
(https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/235/824/12824235.jpeg?width=600&fit=bounds)
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(https://media1.tenor.com/m/SpZ6VFPj74AAAAAd/michigan-football-michigan-football-coach.gif)
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Is he crying because his team won the game but lost the fight?
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he's cryin cause he's a bitch
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he's cryin cause he's a bitch
lulz....matt rhule is your coach. talk about bitch. must suck. he won't be there for long though, he'll be fired in a year.
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I can only hope Rhule wins a big enuff game to shed a tear or 3
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(https://media1.tenor.com/m/SpZ6VFPj74AAAAAd/michigan-football-michigan-football-coach.gif)
Go Bucks!
https://twitter.com/sbell021/status/1869749921261506958
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https://twitter.com/jwtnvol/status/1869474340309549165
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Go Bucks!
https://twitter.com/sbell021/status/1869749921261506958
I admit, whoever Scott Bell is, he made me laugh.
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https://twitter.com/DylanEveryday/status/1869507037530579227
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I am laughing at Tennessee fans trying to shit talk Buckeye fans.
The entire Buckeye fanbase:
(https://media.tenor.com/St4J3Y52G9kAAAAe/joker-batman.png)
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Go Bucks!
3 wins the 1st 20 yrs of this century with a chicken out - leaders and the best :D
But it should be Good Night for Day if the Vols initiate the process for us
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I'm not sure Ohio State is ready for this. I'm not sure yall have any basis to prepare or compare. Your statistical lead in defense is matched against lessor teams than that which Tennessee's are, which are in turn also flattened by their and the same competition.
I think tOSU and aTm are peers in capability. LSU is close by as well as Alabama. Vandy would stand tall against them. Texas, Georgia, and Tennessee are better teams all around, and far more tested and proven. Proven against more diverse styles of play and more teams playing for more than just Saturday payouts such as half the B1G fields, most the ACC fields, and most the B12 fields.
tOSU can win, and home is huge, but buying into this 7pt spread as click bait for easy money is a mistake.
It's gonna happen like this:
One will lose, Saturday, and it'll be clear who's better in the end. 7pts? No way... 17-21pt spread... if it's tOSU it'll be because UT is all out and running into brick walls as they discover tOSUs D is "all that". If it's UT it'll be because they, still, play all out and run a play every 15seconds and keep Sampson fed which opens the center of the field and we see those trips with the lone wideout on the far side spanning 50 yards point to point across the LoS.
I expect a 45-51 to 14-20 affair, but I don't know which is which and won't until round about 845 saturday eve. If UT comes in fast as they can but huep hasn't done since week three or so, tOSU is going to be shell shocked. If tOSU holds them scoreless through the first and deep into the second- I'd put halftime money down it's osu that rips up the second half.
The only game I feared this season was arky... I called that prior, amd my boys dropped it. I thought they'd give uga a harder time, but the refs didn't allow that. I am confident in this game- insofar as believing my boys will be fully prepared, clear of their goals, and at 110%. Now of tOSU wins? They'll have done so meeting mine at their best. If they win, good on them. At mines best they can play with anyone and there is no team in the nation that would take three straight in the best of five with them. That's the team yall will see. I don't know that there isn't two if not three teams that couldn't do that to osu. My opinion of yall may be in for a rude awakening and I hope we get your best.
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3 wins the 1st 20 yrs of this century with a chicken out - leaders and the best :D
But it should be Good Night for Day if the Vols initiate the process for us
4 in a row baby!
You guys had a couple nice runs in a row with Tress and then Urbs. Let us enjoy it!
I hope they keep Ryan John Cooper Day forever!
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My brothers in orange will be displeased with me for doing this..
Heads up , @DunkingDan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1552) , @TREX (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1586) , and @ATexasVol (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1550) ...
https://www.cfb51.com/tennessee/ and at the bottom of the page will be open.. the shoutbox... we convene there at gametime. Yall have an invite to attend.
I may or may not be there... I secured a 22# prime standing ribeye roast that will be smoke to internal of 108, then rested.. then sliced into badass steaks and covered with Irish butter before being chargrilled at 800+ degrees and slapped on a plate adjacent twice backed potatoes and bacon wrapped asparagus... a covering of butter, fried bacon, portobello shrooms, Vidalia onion, sea scallops and chopped 12count shrimp along with a white sauce and horseradish will top said steaks and with less than 15 people coming, everyone will have a pound plus. Then, there is the subject of cohibas- brought by a buddy who works for a particular agency and who has diplomatic waivers and always brings the good ones... these are siglos from 2003.. I think they're 5s but wouldn't swear to it. I may even drop the screen- a 18ft corner to corner carls screen a 4khd projector that casts a beautiful picture, but the weather will determine that.
If everybody bows out from colder weather- supposed to be down to 30, that means I'll be on the shoutbox and very very full and with steaks to spare. I'll pass through one way or the other.
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At mines best they can play with anyone and there is no team in the nation that would take three straight in the best of five with them. That's the team yall will see. I don't know that there isn't two if not three teams that couldn't do that to osu. My opinion of yall may be in for a rude awakening and I hope we get your best.
The quintessential Tennessee fan, ladies and gentlemen. God love 'em. Every big game is like Christmas eve....
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if Ohio State had a fully healthy OL, I’d pick them and feel pretty confident. But they don’t. if they can play defense, run the ball effectively and not turn it over they should be able to eek out a win at home.
That LT and C they lost are excellent players and future NFL draft picks. And Ohio State doesn’t really have the kind of depth at OL that say a Michigan had last year. There’s a big drop off without their starters in and especially vs other talented teams like Tennessee.
I just don’t think Will Howard is the type of QB that can throw you to victory. They need the OL in place to protect him and get the run game going so they can set up the pass off that. Howard isn’t going to dissect a defense pre-snap like Peyton Manning and he doesn’t have the arm talent to make insane throws and dot it up all over the lot like Aaron Rodgers. He’s not an elite QB or passer.
If Ohio State can’t run the ball effectively and efficiently and they get stuck behind the chains and need Howard to throw 35-50 times they will lose cause flat out, he ain’t that guy.
Watch the game and play close attention to the QB’s. Some of the throws Nico will make and the arm talent he’ll display will really flash- even as only a 19 year old RS Frosh. He has the look and feel of a future top pick NFL QB as a RS Frosh. Will Howard is like a 6th year 24 year old SR who has never remotely shown that kind of ability in oh I don’t know- ever.
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if Ohio State had a fully healthy OL, I’d pick them and feel pretty confident. But they don’t. if they can play defense, run the ball effectively and not turn it over they should be able to eek out a win at home.
That LT and C they lost are excellent players and future NFL draft picks. And Ohio State doesn’t really have the kind of depth at OL that say a Michigan had last year. There’s a big drop off without their starters in and especially vs other talented teams like Tennessee.
I just don’t think Will Howard is the type of QB that can throw you to victory. They need the OL in place to protect him and get the run game going so they can set up the pass off that. Howard isn’t going to dissect a defense pre-snap like Peyton Manning and he doesn’t have the arm talent to make insane throws and dot it up all over the lot like Aaron Rodgers. He’s not an elite QB or passer.
If Ohio State can’t run the ball effectively and efficiently and they get stuck behind the chains and need Howard to throw 35-50 times they will lose cause flat out, he ain’t that guy.
Watch the game and play close attention to the QB’s. Some of the throws Nico will make and the arm talent he’ll display will really flash- even as only a 19 year old RS Frosh. He has the look and feel of a future top pick NFL QB as a RS Frosh. Will Howard is like a 6th year 24 year old SR who has never remotely shown that kind of ability in oh I don’t know- ever.
Pretty much my thoughts.
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The quintessential Tennessee fan, ladies and gentlemen. God love 'em. Every big game is like Christmas eve....
Thank you, Sir.
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Well it won't be long now
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Save me a cohiba, please
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I am laughing at Tennessee fans trying to shit talk Buckeye fans.
The entire Buckeye fanbase:
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well, Vol twitter is pretty lit....didn't realize these guys were that funny...
https://twitter.com/vol_equalizer/status/1869581869177835679
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Save me a cohiba, please
My man always comes through. These come through Spain, where the home of Aledios aka habanos is...
He brought some Ramon allones a few years back, which are a house brand of habanos from a London shop much like Ashtons are a house brand out of Philly (holtz) of Arturo Fuentes. Those Ramon allones are absolutely the best cigars I've ever smoked- the Gigante or the special selects which are robusto/toro sized.
I'd give somebody else's eye teeth for a box of those circa late 90s. They're a once in a lifetime smoke. SUPER rich, akin to a Hoya de Monterey but full of deeply complex flavors. At one time in my life I had a 12' x 20' walk in humidor with center island filled from top to bottom with cigars. From everywhere. I even had a box of 1962 Alfred Dunhill #951's when they were still cuban- the first cigar ever rated by CA at 100... and it held not a candle to the Ramon allones... the second best was a #55 Arturo Fuente "shark" anejo.. 2006 or so vintage... whodathinkit? A Dominican. Damn fine smoke.
The siglo series isn't near as stout as I like em, but they're better than what I can find here. I've not been out of the country for a long time, now.
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I guess I'm coming to visit when I retire
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I guess I'm coming to visit when I retire
You should move there!
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Anything is possible
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I'm not sure Ohio State is ready for this. I'm not sure yall have any basis to prepare or compare.
I think you are right - Day will pop like a pimple under pressure,if tOSU had those 3 healthy O-Lineman then I'd feel we were stout enough to run the ball. But if the forecast is accurate the temps are suppose to be in the low 20s sometime saturday nite. Don't think throwing the ball in the cold with a decimated O-Line is going to happen. And as mentioned not sure how tOSU will be able to run the rock either.
Unless the seniors really have rallied around each other and support each other going all in then perhaps they win. But they sure as hell aren't getting any direction or leadership under Ryan "Just For Men" Day. If that line stays at 7 I might jump on it,why not? It is the season of giving and if the Books are up for it Hellz ya
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mind you this is just a highlight reel, and he's also got some pretty bad lowlight reels....he's looked an awful lot like a Frosh (RS) first time starter. flashes insane arm talent though. dude can move too. just a nuclear arm though, that ball has serious heat when it leaves his hand and he throws it so effortlessly- just flicks his wrist and it's down the field 60 yards.
https://twitter.com/MrOH1O/status/1869494670763679846
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Dayum well if he can toss some darts on quick routes in the cold then he'll light the good guys up.But it will be frigid maybe Dylan Sampson will get some traction.
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well, Vol twitter is pretty lit....didn't realize these guys were that funny...
https://twitter.com/vol_equalizer/status/1869581869177835679
And it's easier to find than a Miami fan!!!
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And it's easier to find than a Miami fan!!!
when you're a nail, you're often on the lookout for hammers.... which is why you see Vols fans everywhere...
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Save me a cohiba, please
Had to look that up thought it was some kind of street vendor food wrapped around a rod and put to the flame.The kind Anthony Bourdain and Andrew Zimmern use to devour in Bogotá or Cartagena alleys
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And it's easier to find than a Miami fan!!!
A poor,bitter,jilted gator fan talking 3rd party smack using the Vols to do it. Same guys who use to rub in "can't spell Citrus without U-T" 😍
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I saw an opening...and filled it.
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Let's not talk bad about poor, bitter, jilted Gator fans. Poor, bitter, and jilted are just how I like my Gator fans.
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Let's not talk bad about poor, bitter, jilted Gator fans. Poor, bitter, and jilted are just how I like my Gator fans.
Plus, they wear jorts.
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Let's not talk bad about poor, bitter, jilted Gator fans. Poor, bitter, and jilted are just how I like my Gator fans.
Lock the Thread
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My brothers in orange will be displeased with me for doing this..
Heads up , @DunkingDan (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1552) , @TREX (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1586) , and @ATexasVol (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1550) ...
https://www.cfb51.com/tennessee/ and at the bottom of the page will be open.. the shoutbox... we convene there at gametime. Yall have an invite to attend.
I may or may not be there... I secured a 22# prime standing ribeye roast that will be smoke to internal of 108, then rested.. then sliced into badass steaks and covered with Irish butter before being chargrilled at 800+ degrees and slapped on a plate adjacent twice backed potatoes and bacon wrapped asparagus... a covering of butter, fried bacon, portobello shrooms, Vidalia onion, sea scallops and chopped 12count shrimp along with a white sauce and horseradish will top said steaks and with less than 15 people coming, everyone will have a pound plus.
The hell with the shout box we want an invite to the vittles - Go Vols,c'mon,c'mon it's getting late get those invitations out
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So what they're eating/drinking = $$$ plus if they win it will facilitate Ryan Day's deadline
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Those good ole boys in Columbus better organize some cloak-and-dagger tactics to stem the invaders!!! The man in the daisy-orange pajamas...a worthy fucking adversary.
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So what they're eating/drinking = $$$ plus if they win it will facilitate Ryan Day's deadline
you think they actually fire Day if he loses to the Vols? do I have to root for Ohio State to win this?
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you think they actually fire Day if he loses to the Vols? do I have to root for Ohio State to win this?
Oh no you don't,I've got this
Wish that I was on old Rocky Top
Down in the Tennessee hills
Ain't no smoggy smoke on Rocky Top
Ain't no telephone bills
I dunno that is pretty revolting,Christmas Party later tonite, game will be on - going watch Ryan Day's swan song. Don't Screw This Up Vols or I'll never forgive you
PS still rooting for the seniors.......sort of
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Well CBS chimes in with their top 10 draft prospects
1. EDGE James Pearce Jr., Tennessee
CBSSports.com prospect ranking: No. 1 EDGE, No. 5 overall
Pearce was one of the first players off the board in essentially every mock draft leading up to the season. He is a fast, flexible edge rusher that registered 9.5 sacks as a sophomore in 2023. A lack of ideal play strength had always been one of the concerns with him. The narrative around him this season has actually been that he has underperformed and yet he leads all college football edge rushers with at least 200 pass rush snaps in pressure rate (24.4%), according to
Pack your bags ryan baby
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Oh no you don't,I've got this
Wish that I was on old Rocky Top
Down in the Tennessee hills
Ain't no smoggy smoke on Rocky Top
Ain't no telephones
I dunno that is pretty revolting,Christmas Party later tonite, game will be on - going watch Ryan Day's swan song. Don't Screw This Up Vols or I'll never forgive you
PS still rooting for the seniors.......sort of
FIFY
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Just turned on ESPN during pregame coverage. Seeing a lot of orange in the stands.
What’s up Buck fans?
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Just turned on ESPN during pregame coverage. Seeing a lot of orange in the stands.
What’s up Buck fans?
Michigan has broken that entire state and fan base imo.
Have a shot at making a Natty run and they up and let those hicks from Tennessee buy up all the tickets and invade Columbus like the Barbarians did Rome.
https://twitter.com/JoshPateCFB/status/1870618447127937391
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Dave Portnoy to the rescue!
https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1870492082374083045
https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1870537633262363095
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All Columbus-area department stores are sold out of overalls.
Plenty of toothpaste, deodorant, and shoes are available, however.
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https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1870623788393525254
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There'd only been about 5,000 Vols fans there pre-smart phone.
They would have had to navigate the trip with paper maps.
Rural motels all over Ohio would have made a ton of money in that case.
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https://twitter.com/BrittBaileyTV/status/1870546343586062605
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Womp womp
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Liking game so far
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Threw it to Smith in the 2nd half
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This is best team UT has seen this season. By a long shot. Some may argue Tennessee is way out of sync, but I'm seeing a team being beaten in every aspect and being taken out of their game with ease by tOSO.
I cry yalls pardon. tOSU is legit as can be.
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Embarrassing by the Vols.
Congrats OSU. Domination.
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Embarrassing by the Vols.
Congrats OSU. Domination.
Been there. Not fun.
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There'd only been about 5,000 Vols fans there pre-smart phone.
They would have had to navigate the trip with paper maps.
Rural motels all over Ohio would have made a ton of money in that case.
So you're saying Vol fans are tech savvy.
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So you're saying Vol fans are tech savvy.
After their grandkids explain it to them 8 times.
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Embarrassing by the Vols.
Congrats OSU. Domination.
Never saw that coming,maybe the Vols were effected by the cold.But with it's recent arrival not many up here were either - deer hunters perhaps. It's been cooler for the last month but the last 2-3 days it has dipped to January frigid.
Any way the saga of tOSU's O-Line gets a reprieve for a week and a half. Surprised the Vols D Line didn't control the LoS and exploit that more, I did see some UT players down on occasion.Being at a Christmas Party and catching up with some folks wasn't favorable to focusing on the particulars
tOSU scoring on the 1st 3 drives had us thinking who the hell are these guys and Howard managed the game well
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If we look at points scored by the Vols against decent competition, we might say the output was not awesome.
NC State - 51, definitely a good figure.
@Oklahoma - 25, it looked better at the time.
@Arkansas - 14, definitely not good at all.
Florida - 17 in regulation.
Alabama - 24.
Kentucky - 28.
@UGA - 17
@Vandy - 36
My GUESS is the put up around 17 on Ohio State on the road.
About …
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You get a Yuengling CD 🍺
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Never saw that coming,maybe the Vols were effected by the cold.But with it's recent arrival not many up here were either - deer hunters perhaps. It's been cooler for the last month but the last 2-3 days it has dipped to January frigid.
Any way the saga of tOSU's O-Line gets a reprieve for a week and a half. Surprised the Vols D Line didn't control the LoS and exploit that more, I did see some UT players down on occasion.Being at a Christmas Party and catching up with some folks wasn't favorable to focusing on the particulars
tOSU scoring on the 1st 3 drives had us thinking who the hell are these guys and Howard managed the game well
“managed the game well” ??
Tough crowd. 24/29 for 83% and 311 yards.
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Well he got the ball out and treyveon looked like Derrick Henry I was mingling with the Holiday Crowd. And as I stated "Being at a Christmas Party and catching up with some folks wasn't favorable to focusing on the particulars"
One thing I noticed Josh Heupel and Chip kelly seem to be on the same conditioning program.Hell 24 yrs ago Huepel was the Heisman Trophy runner-up in 2000 and led the Sooners to an undefeated season and a national championship.
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“managed the game well” ??
Tough crowd. 24/29 for 83% and 311 yards.
I was gonna hit him with that
Well done
and two touchdowns and rushed for 37 yards
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I was gonna hit him with that
Sorry I don't bring a smart phone to social gatherings to check on these things while ignoring others. I don't get creative like your score card at the 19th hole :111:
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Cornsidering leaning over the sink in an empty kitchen is a social gathering
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After all the caterwauling about Indiana and SMU, that was a welcome outcome.
I will fully admit that I did not expect their quarterback to deliver that way. Fine work by him.
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someone lied to me about tOSU's o-line and the Vol's d-line
screwed me badly in the genius guesstimation
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Cornsidering leaning over the sink in an empty kitchen is a social gathering
Would you like pictures next time? I'd give you a heads up if you were eating
Hey I bit to with the weather and the Buckeyes last performance and 3 lineman out. never knew the Vols would roll over,the Ducks certainly aren't.Not like you were finishing in top 3 anyhow so quit looking at others work like ya did in school
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Would you like pictures next time? I'd give you a heads up if you were eating
pics of hotties leaning over your sink or any sink are welcome
if you're wondering if you are a hottie, ask your missus :57:
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if you're wondering if you are a hottie, ask your missus :57:
Like I said I'll give you a heads up if you were eating. No Hooters girls there last nite almost everyone had their spouses in tow, almost
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so is Ryan Day good again or is he the worst coach in America and needs to be fired? just checking Bucknutjob fans :)
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@#!$&^%*() brain dead fucktard harbaugh - how is that for an answer :111: Day's got a stay of excecution,Where was this team on 11/30? or against Mizzou in the bowl last year? This game just makes the Michigan game feel even worse. No matter what happens that's how the season will be remembered most - unless they get the Hardware
IMO the thin O-line gets exposed next week,but who the eff knows
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so is Ryan Day good again or is he the worst coach in America and needs to be fired? just checking Bucknutjob fans :)
Only the truly over the top nuts were calling for day's head. And most probably still are.
No doubt he screwed the pooch against thunder but who else we going to get to replace him
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Day is the best coach in all of CFB.
For now.
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Only the truly over the top nuts were calling for day's head.
:051bye: you do realize he's not given 10.3 million per and a 37 mil buyout for an atta boy,participation trophy or a pass for:
Failing to win the Big Ten Conf. Championship 4 straight years
Failing to beat Michigan in 4 straight years
If he wasn't going to beat them this year then when the hell is he? You OK for laying an egg vs Mizzou last year,also?
Day took his 30 pieces of silver time to face the consequences.Again where was that game plan with that same roster 3 weeks ago
The fact he was NEVER a Head Coach in Division I has shown.
It's natty or bust he's shat the bed enough
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:051bye: you do realize he's not given 10.3 million per and a 37 mil buyout for an atta boy,participation trophy or a pass for:
Failing to win the Big Ten Conf. Championship 4 straight years
Failing to beat Michigan in 4 straight years
If he wasn't going to beat them this year then when the hell is he? You OK for laying an egg vs Mizzou last year,also?
Day took his 30 pieces of silver time to face the consequences.Again where was that game plan with that same roster 3 weeks ago
The fact he was NEVER a Head Coach in Division I has shown.
It's natty or bust he's shat the bed enough
No not happy but I not convinced that any of the alternatives are better. As I said he and chip screwed the pooch against ttun
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alrighty.. my wounds have been sufficiently licked and my constitution restored enough to do what i must, which is to eat the crow i so eloquently prepared for myself.
i have to remind myself that i am a college football fan first. that without participation from others, there would be no team to follow. and, to make that work you gotta have some understanding of how the moving parts and pieces of the game move and what their intent is.
old timers here from way back on fox or scout or whatever prior iteration may or may not recall my often stated position that football, in an overarching explanation in search of it's essence is about one thing and one thing only- and that is playing a game within your comfort zone, and being practiced enough to play explicitly cohesive. The team that plays with cohesion wins every single time. the team that plays within their ability or defining skillset plays in their comfort zone. it's a rare thing when two teams play that are each within their range of comfort and play as a unit- we call those classic games.... and even then, one leverages, through discovery of the field generals, a weakness or mismatch that they believe can be exploited without revealing their own weakness or gap.
it's a thing that's hard to explain without examples, but i ain't here to offer those... i want this meal of crow over with. i'll just say "two great teams can meet and one will seemingly knock the crap out of the other to everyone's surprise, leaving an impression one was heads and shoulders above the other when the truth of the matter is there was only one true exploitation- one mismatch- one imbalance that the opposing teams general identified and exploited- it could be a receiver that racks up 250yds receiving and 4 touchdowns which makes it obvious- and less obvious when that receiver is shut down shortly after discovery, but at the cost of weakening another matchup somewhere. the delta on the scoreboard makes it seem as if it didn't come down to just a single matchup, but in truth it did.... that's why i like watching these games- it brings in talent laden with skill (development) and refined with practiced execution akin to a symphony, which is all on the underling coaches to withdraw from kids... and then the general and his majors scheme according to what their intel has discovered and what they see being presented real time.
well... ^that isn't at all what happened in this game^.
i truly believed 'at worst' that^ would be what was involved, and even so i figured my Vols had a fighters chance in such a condition. i 'thought' i'd spotted the weaknesses our coach would attempt to exploit, but they weren't there... at all... i thought tOSU was overrated and overhyped and taking station in the glow of their own legend, which makes them ripe for a fall. i was right about that part, but it wasn't tOSU that was ripe...
there isn't a single aspect of that game where UT looked like UT. it's because from the opening kickoff they were nowhere near their comfort zone. not one single play did i see them execute with confidence as if they were just 'going through the motions but knew how it would turn out'.... in short, they were beat by the coaches before the horn... they lined up against a team supposedly depleted, and allowed more 1st quarter yards than they have all year- they were manhandled by this 'depleted' yet inspired team. they were beat by the players talent and development. they were denied the simplest of plays that have worked all season when times were tough- even when they still had a chance- they lost all semblance of cohesion... and when that happens? it's all but impossible to regain.
after the half, all i needed to see was the first drive to know the end. coaches didn't respond. players didn't respond. tOSU found yet more fuel to burn from the fading soul of General Neyland, and laid that heat to 'em.
......... that isn't the tOSU team i've seen play this season, not that i've watched a bunch of them, but that was a team on a mission and my poor underprepared and ill-equipped fellas were the meal to feed them.
UT had that spark, last, when they beat Bama at Neyland under Hendon Hooker. ... that, by the way, was just a single mismatch on the field, though (after i said i wouldn't give examples) - there was no single mismatch in this game- there were mismatches all over the field and nary a one in UT's favor.
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Yeah - fans (especially those who never played the sport) can forget the amazing range of performance levels and outcomes for a given team.
We have had the debate here a zillion times. It is not how good a team “is” but rather what they are capable of. And for most teams- the variability is WIDE! That was not the best version of UT. Probably was the best version of OSU.
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Ohio State has the talent to be as good as or better than any team in the nation on any given day. It's also quite possible that Ohio State's coach isn't great at preparing them on every given day, particularly those that involve their primary and ancient rival.
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Ohio State has the talent to be as good as or better than any team in the nation on any given day. It's also quite possible that Ohio State's coach isn't great at preparing them on every given day, particularly those that involve their primary and ancient rival.
Yes. Only 1-4 versus arch rival But the best winning % of all active coaches, 4 CFP appearances in 6 seasons, 4 top ten finishes and 3 top 5.
He was not getting fired despite what the looneys yelling.
His record v Um does suck- but Harbaugh started 0-5 v OSU and Kirby is 1-6 v his rival. People are nuts.
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Harbaugh started 0-5 v OSU
Harbaugh is still 0-5 v tOSU, or at least he will be once the ill-gotten gains are vacated.
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Kinda fun to watch this rando Vols fan experience the Shoe for the first time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8n1PkSsJQU
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Yes. Only 1-4 versus arch rival But the best winning % of all active coaches, 4 CFP appearances in 6 seasons, 4 top ten finishes and 3 top 5.
He was not getting fired despite what the looneys yelling.
His record v Um does suck- but Harbaugh started 0-5 v OSU and Kirby is 1-6 v his rival. People are nuts.
underlined part is a great point and pretty sure Dabo had a bad streak vs his rival and took him awhile to break through.
The 1-4 vs the rival thing is a problem for Day, but in his 6 years as head coach I believe he's made the CFP in 4 of those years and he's won at least 11 games every year (sans COVID year) and finished in the AP top 10 all 6 seasons, he gets top 5 recruiting classes year in year out, runs a clean program, develops tons of NFL draft picks....Ohio State could do A LOT worse.
Ryan Day is one of the very best coaches in the sport, period.