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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: ELA on December 01, 2024, 04:17:22 PM
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The big thing is building the depth. I said before the season, I liked MSU's starting 22 better than last year, but they certainly lost more than they brought in through the portal, and the depth concerned me. That proved to be the case because while I don't think their total injuries were out of whack statistically, they were heavily concentrated in the defensive back seven.
The DL was ok against the run, but couldn't generate any pressure, and by the end of the year, MSU was starting a walk on true freshman at nickel back. Purdue probably would have beaten us if Walters had realized earlier that he was passing against the worst back seven he had seen all season. And even not realizing it until the second half, it took a dropped deep ball by a wide open WR, and an interception on a pass that was tipped 3 times for MSU to hold on.
I think the ongoing issue is going to be that aside from QBs, interior DL is going to be the most expensive positions in the portal. MSU lost their two starting DTs to Oregon and Miami respectively. I think they can build some depth in the back seven, but I'm very concerned about the trenches going forward.
The offense should get better, simply from OL improvements. I think Chiles is back, he was already well paid to keep him from USC, and I can't imagine this year has increased his value. Nick Marsh is well paid, but turned down better money from PSU because he's an MSU fan, and he likes Chiles. "Better money" might become "silly money" this offseason, so it will be interesting to see if he stays.
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Demetrice Martin appears to be headed back to the west coast and UCLA to be closer to his aging parents after one year as the CBs coach at MSU. Of course he will also be full DB coach and PGC, so it comes with a pay bump.
MSU's recruiting is bad enough, and he was MSU's best one. Some talk that 3 DB commits will flip because of this, 2 west coasters to UCLA, and a DC area kid to Virginia Tech.
MSU might wind up with a class in the 60s.
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Why is he leaving?
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His whole family is on the west coast, but it's also a promotion and a pay raise
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I know but it's only been a year. MSU could promote him too, right?
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I know but it's only been a year. MSU could promote him too, right?
And fire Blue Adams? Martin is a better recruiter than coach. He's been fired by UCLA and Oregon in the past few years. I think he only came because Oregon didn't want him anymore. I'd rather keep him because he's the best recruiter on staff, but in the NIL era, that's worth a lot less than it used to be
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Have to keep Blue Adams.
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Yeah, if he bolts for anything other than a DC job, that's a major issue
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hearing a lot of rumors about frosh WR Nick Marsh hitting the portal. from what I can tell it's just baseless internet talk. MSU has to do everything to keep him put- he's a future 1st-2nd rd NFL draft pick WR. stud.
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I think almost every good player is going to/should hit the portal every year. Might as well start a bidding war
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Some options as Martin's replacement
Archie Collins is Pitt's secondary coach. He played for MSU, and was a grad assistant who Narduzzi took with him as a position coach when he went to Pitt. He would fill a similar role as Martin, as he has been Pitt's top rated recruiter. But he would have less responsibility at MSU than he has at Pitt, although MSU could still presumably pay more, and it's his alma mater.
Gerren DuHart, OSU defensive assistant. Day poached him a couple years back when he was a GA at MSU. Also known as an elite recruiter. Would be a promotion to come back to MSU, but again, could OSU pay him more, or promote him themselves
Renaldo Hill has been an NFL DB coach for the past 7 years. He was not retained by Harbaugh when he got the Chargers job, so he's not currently working. He's only mentioned due to being an alum, no real indication he wants to go back to the college ranks.
De'Angelo Smith, Ohio DB coach. Played for Dantonio at Cincinnati, then was a GA during the peak Dantonio years at MSU. I really like his profile, and he looks like probably the best "coach" of this group. But considering what they lost in Martin, they might need Collins or DuHart for their recruiting. Or maybe it's just about NIL, so go get the best Xs and Os guy you can. I think that's this guy
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MSU added a couple WRs out of the portal. Really interested in Crishon McCray who was All-MAC on a historically bad Kent State team. Very different room next year with Foster graduating, and Glover transferring. I liked Glover a lot, and FSU nearly poached him, but hes one of those guys who looks better in shorts.
IMO, Aziah Johnson, a true freshman who didnt play much, and is also transferring, is the bigger loss. I think he is going to make someone very happy, wherever he is in 2026.
So now its Marsh, these two transfers and a 3/4* true freshman from Ohio. I think Alante Brown might have another year if he wants it, but hed be a 6th year senior coming off back to back season ending injuries, so he might just hang em up
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MSU hires Wake Forests AHC as safties coach
https://twitter.com/JustinThind/status/1876295056447222200?t=m4l05A4sA2s8fwZjBrOdIw&s=19
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https://twitter.com/DarkoStateNews/status/1890164978327646398
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According to this article from The Mirror (https://www.themirror.com/sport/american-football/michigan-state-ford-field-maryland-1014547), there ARE FOUR Spartans fans not happy with playing the last home game at Ford Field:
"Why do this again?? Take away another game at Spartan Stadium?" One fan wrote on X in response to the announcement. "Absolutely pathetic," a second bluntly added.
"Did the networks not like coming to East Lansing in late November when it’s really cold out?" Another fan asked. "What’s wrong with Spartan Stadium? I don’t want anymore games in Ford Field unless we play in the bowl game that they host," one fan suggested.
"Hate this," one supporter said. "What’s worse than taking a home game away for students? Messing up the MHSAA football championship weekend schedule. Stop letting networks do this."
https://twitter.com/MSU_Football/status/1897316652242661581
edit: clarifying The Mirror found FOUR unhappy Spartans fans; And, ELA, your reaction was mine as well - it was noticeable watching on TV that stadium wasn't full for hosting the Thanksgiving week home games.
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Those Thanksgiving weekend games are empty, even when MSU is decent. I don't particularly like it, but I'm also not a season ticket holder. I imagine it will be even less full in Detroit, but I guess MSU is getting paid for it?
PSU with a good MSU team is about the only time its well attended. Once they moved to or rotation with Maryland and Rutgers as well, and they pushed the end of the Big Ten season back a week, it's a ghost town. I guess I feel bad for those three people, but MSU as a fan base can't really be pissed because they weren't showing up for that game anyway
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Sounds like CMU transfer WR Evan Boyd is having a great spring.
Normally Id take it with a grain of salt that you never hear anything but good new out of spring.
But here, its literally the only news Ive heard. So I donbelieve he has... but also makes me a little concerned that nobody else seems to be